Time Nick Message 21:56 Brooke If I ever find a runner, I'm meant to pilot the canoe in the Women's Triathlon. Kay called the horse. 21:55 jransom without sun block ..... 21:55 jransom connor is staying home today: completely knackered having paddled a 4 man surf canoe for much of yesterday 21:55 jransom william 21:55 jransom oops 21:55 jransom its connor 21:55 Brooke if it's Liam, that boy needs the help of God and two peelers. 21:54 Brooke he'll be safe if it's Connor or Wills 21:54 jransom oh yeah - he said its been pelting down for ages already and its not even showing blue where he is yet 21:53 Brooke wet > dry 21:53 rangi yeah its gonna be wet 21:53 jransom just rang my boy and told him to scarper off the coromandel and head to cover 21:52 jransom this is cool: http://www.metservice.com/national/maps-rain-radar/rain-radar/all-new-zealand 21:51 jransom society has so move don 21:51 jransom shocked that noone did anything, or spoke up, or protected the kids or the wife, and that even the wifes friend just ignored the violence .. 21:51 jcamins Good night, #koha. 21:51 jransom not this lot - fascinating listening to their commentary 21:51 jcamins Time to head home. 21:50 Brooke I can't believe that Emma had to sit your arse back down :P 21:50 jransom when i first watched i was shocked silent 21:50 Brooke good on you 21:50 jransom fascinating 21:50 jransom wacthed once were warriors again last night with a bunch of teenagers 21:50 jransom there you go 21:50 jransom hey! 21:50 rangi its tab completion 21:50 Brooke o/ 21:50 jransom you often type jcamins instead of jransom 21:49 jransom hello 21:48 rangi hmm jransom even 21:48 rangi hiya jcamins 21:40 rhcl 4 NICs + (2) 4-port switches. I outta be able to do something exciting with this. 21:40 rhcl you got me thinking about my last unstarted project. I have one of these in the closet downstairs -> http://www.usedcomp.de/infos/nokia_ip530_a.jpg 21:37 jcamins talljoy: I left a message for you with huginn about this, but you need to delete automatically-generated authority records when working with MARCIVE. 21:36 talljoy okay. 21:35 rangi they all work together 21:35 rangi basically look in that dir installer/data/mysql/en/mandatory/ there are 3 sql files for the notices 21:34 rangi ah yeah 21:34 talljoy that explains these random values from some other version of "koha" 21:34 rangi installer/data/mysql/en/mandatory/sample_notices_message_transports.sql 21:33 rangi talljoy: look at 21:32 rangi it will do that if it doesnt have valid transports set for it 21:26 talljoy hey koha! anyone familiar with adding records to the message_attributes table? I added a record and it appears in the patron screen as 'unknown' not the message name i provided. 21:21 rhcl http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nATMe_NKgo0 21:18 rhcl for a while I was messing around w/ ACARS decoders. http://www.acarsd.org http://www.airnavsystems.com/acars/ http://www.dxzone.com/tag-acars-decoder/ 21:17 jcamins "First object cataloged from space in MARC21. French libraries object that MARC21 is not nearly as universal as its proponents would like us to think." 21:15 rhcl telemetry for rockets maybe. I do have a bit of a background in RF 21:14 jcamins rhcl: telemetry systems for model cars? 21:14 rhcl embedded? well, that's kinda like firewalls, so I'd need an exciting use/application to grab my interest 21:13 rhcl I was tempted, but in the military and moving every 2 years, so there was no way it could have worked out 21:13 jcamins rhcl: time to take up embedded systems? 21:13 rhcl a number of years ago I exchanged emails with this group - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armadillo_Aerospace - right when they were starting up and looking for people to join them 21:12 rhcl to be honest, I love working on computers, but lately I've been sorta feeling like a computer is a computer, and I need something more of a challenge. 21:09 rhcl and I got bored after a while, when the challenge kinda went away after I'd done about 6 or so. 21:08 rhcl this is all with my own money and time, of course 21:08 rhcl mostly I don't use these at the library. We have grown-up Cisco ASAs for that. I have used them occasionally at work, but mostly at home. 21:07 jcamins rhcl: any of your branches reporting fewer than usual viruses? ;) 21:06 rhcl You know, I had some oddball white firewall I rehabbed, but I haven't seen it in a while. Wonder where it is? 21:05 rhcl you can never have too many :) 21:05 rhcl I've been trying to clean out stuff today in my network room, and I saw that I still have one pending project box--a big massive steel rackmount sucker 21:05 jcamins rhcl: how many firewalls did you need? 21:04 rhcl Did that with two Fireboxes, a Symantec Velicoraptor (http://home.comcast.net/~dean.fujiwara/symantec_velociraptor.jpg) and a few others. I picked out stuff that was cheap on eBay and pretty. 21:03 rhcl You know, for a while I was on a kick to rejuvenate firewalls. I'd take something like a Firebox (http://image.minoc.com/zd_images/2002/06/020205_watchguard.jpg) that was going out of service, and load smoothwall on it. 21:00 jcamins rhcl: well, it will negatively affect productivity for products that don't involve Raspberry Pi boards. :P 21:00 rhcl and raspberry will negatively affect productivity? I've got some dark projects linked somewhere better than that. 20:58 jcamins Now we all have. 20:58 jcamins rhcl: I had never heard of Raspberry Pi. Neither had any of my non-Koha friends. 20:58 cait rangi++ :) 20:57 rhcl jcamins: say what? translate to English 20:45 cait :) 20:45 rangi cait++ 20:45 rangi thats cait's fault 20:45 rangi ah yeah 20:44 jcamins rangi: integrating Wikipedia with Koha. 20:43 rangi ? 20:43 jcamins rangi++ 20:37 jcamins rhcl: I hope you can live with that on your conscience. :P 20:37 jcamins rhcl: you are responsible for the massive loss of productivity that is going to occur in my circle of technical friends. 20:21 rhcl nice -> http://www.raspberrypi.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/PC236526.jpg 20:20 rangi not nice ps3 20:20 rangi oh this was old playstation 20:17 jcamins rhcl: a shame that Koha isn't massively parallel. 20:16 rhcl hey, the sony cell processors aren't bad. If you get a bunch of 'em you can build a semi-respectable supercomputer. Somebody did that, I seem to remember. 20:15 rangi why .. because they could 20:15 rangi someone had koha running on their playstation 20:15 jcamins rhcl++ 20:15 rangi :) 20:14 rhcl I'll be the first to get Koha running on it. http://www.slashgear.com/raspberry-pi-25-usd-computer-coming-in-january-28204830/ 19:35 jcamins Huh. Wonder what they did wrong. 19:34 jcamins And it's just Primo. 19:32 jcamins Not a winner. 19:32 jcamins rangi: and it is using up *all* my bandwidth. 19:31 rangi ah 19:31 jcamins rangi Princeton switched to a discovery layer. 19:31 rangi whoah? 19:31 jcamins Whoah! 19:22 jcamins ago43: no problem. I'll sign off on it as soon as I get the chance. 19:18 ago43 jcamins: you're welcome. sorry I forgot about that. 19:17 rangi i knew i had seen it before somewhere 19:16 rangi ahh ta 19:16 cait rangi: http://libriotech.no/node/131 :) 19:14 jcamins ago43: thanks. 19:12 jcamins donum++ # great name 19:12 rangi manus_afk: http://donum.no/ <-- that you 18:56 jcamins ago43: thanks. 18:55 ago43 jcamins: I'll dig that out. 18:55 * tcohen needs a good oo perl reference manual 18:54 jcamins ago43: I'll need the actual MARC record to test it. Marlboro has disabled export. 18:46 trea ^^ 18:45 * jcamins loses interest quickly when faced with a library that disables MARC export on the OPAC. 18:45 cait makes it a bit less confusing and easier for git bz users 18:45 cait i think pushed patches should be marked obsolete at bugs like this 18:45 trea i'll see what i can do 18:45 jcamins trea: if you'd like to attach the problematic record to the bug, that might encourage me to try signing off again. 18:44 wahanui somebody said confusing was "Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?" 18:44 trea confusing? 18:44 trea mmm, confusing 18:44 * cait is typing too slow 18:44 cait what jcamins said 18:44 cait the one still needing sign off is from ago43 18:44 jcamins ago43's patch still has not been signed off and pushed. 18:43 jcamins Sorry, I'm a bit late to the discussion. 18:43 cait trea: there have been several patches to this bug 18:43 jcamins trea: that's a different patch than the one that needs sign off. 18:43 jcamins cait: no, it's still needs sign off. 18:43 cait you asked for the record I think 18:43 trea cait perhaps i'm missing something, but if it needs signoff would it show up here? http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ff96db8a5491205bb919ee92a86d9735bddf3098 18:43 cait did I misread? 18:43 cait ah 18:42 jcamins (for sign off) 18:42 jcamins cait: if you can replicate the problem, please do. 18:42 cait trea: 2629 is correct as needs signoff It ink 18:41 huginn jcamins: The current temperature in Middle Village, Queens, New York is 5.8�C (1:40 PM EST on December 28, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: -3.0�C. Windchill: 3.0�C. Pressure: 29.54 in 1000.2 hPa (Rising). 18:41 jcamins @wunder 11375 18:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2629 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, ago, ASSIGNED , Diacritics not being ignored when searching 18:41 cait bug 2629 18:41 huginn cait: The current temperature in Reutlingen, Germany is 3.6�C (7:41 PM CET on December 28, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: -6.0�C. Windchill: 4.0�C. Pressure: 28.94 in 979.9 hPa (Steady). 18:41 cait @wunder Reutlingen 18:41 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -1.0�C (7:39 PM CET on December 28, 2011). Conditions: Light Freezing Fog. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: -2.0�C. Windchill: -1.0�C. Pressure: 30.36 in 1028.0 hPa (Falling). 18:41 cait @wunder Konstanz 18:28 trea 2629 is listed as Needs Signoff, and 1807 is Failed QA. are they just miscategorized? 18:28 cait but I think ian can decide 18:28 cait if that's enough to fail 18:27 cait jcamins: i was not sure about it either 18:27 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2629 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, ago, ASSIGNED , Diacritics not being ignored when searching 18:27 trea and bug 2629 both show in the git logs, but neither says pushed 18:26 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1807 blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , ':' character blocks search ; search () give odd results 18:26 trea unless i'm missing something, bug 1807 18:18 jcamins Makes sense. 18:18 jcamins :) 18:18 * jcamins doesn't see 2 as cause for failing QA, but I see that's not why you failed it. 18:17 cait but wanted to note it 18:17 jcamins Ah, yes I did. 18:17 cait I guessed 1 was not possible 18:17 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7031 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED , More options for AdvancedSearchTypes 18:17 jcamins bug 7031 18:17 cait :) 18:17 cait jcamins: I see you responded to my notes about 7031 18:17 jcamins Hi cait. 18:14 jcamins patric: not really. 18:14 patric Any pointers? 18:13 patric I was afraid of that 18:13 jcamins patric: you're going to have a lot of working converting that. 18:12 pastebot "patric" at 68.98.203.253 pasted "list of text files from old broken system" (10 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/173 18:11 cait magnuse++ 18:11 cait grr. 18:11 wahanui Hi cait. are you looking at the rwc final? 18:11 cait Hi cait. 18:10 cait hmm 18:10 wahanui jcamins, I didn't have anything matching hi cait 18:10 jcamins wahanui: forget Hi cait. 18:10 cait forget Hi cait. 18:10 cait no 18:10 jcamins Nope. 18:10 wahanui Hi cait. are you looking at the rwc final? 18:10 cait Hi cait. 18:10 jcamins cait: looks like it worked. 18:10 jcamins Hi cait? 18:10 cait and hi jcamins :) 18:10 cait forget Hi cait? 18:10 wahanui Hi cait. are you looking at the rwc final? 18:10 jcamins Hi cait. 18:09 cait hi #koha 18:00 * jcamins hands trea some more duct tape. 18:00 trea apologies for the bouncing 18:00 trea ugh. think my wireless router is having an aneurysm. i've hardwired it. 17:58 wizzyrea oh hi :) 17:58 jcamins wizzyrea: happy holidays! 17:58 wizzyrea or so. 17:58 wizzyrea mmm 3 more likely 17:58 * jcamins could not. 17:58 * wizzyrea could probably be there in a couple of hours ;) 17:57 wizzyrea way 17:57 patric no way 17:57 wizzyrea I know where newton is 17:57 jcamins patric: MARC21 it is. :) 17:57 patric Newton Kansas, in the US 17:55 jcamins patric: you choose MARC flavor based on what other libraries around you use, not based on up-front conversion. 17:55 jcamins patric: where are you located? 17:55 patric alrighty, I have some plaintext from an ancient unsupported library system that I'd like to convert and import, are there any thoughts on which marc flavor I'll have better luck with? 17:42 * jcamins tosses trea[1-3]? the duct tape. 17:35 jcamins patric: yup. 17:35 patric username is koha_$site? 17:33 jcamins paul_p: thanks. 17:33 paul_p jcamins, I must leave. About 7345 i feel I still don't understand, but I have to read & try to understand more. About 7332, nope, it seems everybody agrees with the "heavy XSLT" idea, i'll QA & push it ASAP. 17:33 patric hash, not has 17:33 patric no has, the plaintext in the xml is the password? 17:31 patric very nice 17:31 jcamins It's randomly generated. 17:31 jcamins Search for "pass" -- it'll probably be the third occurrence. 17:31 jcamins patric: you'll need to get that out of your koha-conf.xml file. 17:30 patric (I should be looking this up) 17:30 patric default user/pass?/ 17:30 patric Gotcha 17:30 jcamins The packages take care of most of that for you. 17:30 jcamins patric: that's for if you're not using the packages. 17:29 patric thank you very much, the README.Debian still lists adding listen 8080 to ports.conf, is that deprecated? 17:28 patric Lookee there 17:26 jcamins (rather than port 8080) 17:26 jcamins patric: in that case, you'll need to access the intranet on library-intra.smcs.local 17:25 pastebot "patric" at 68.98.203.253 pasted "koha-site.conf" (7 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/172 17:24 jcamins patric: right. Did you set a port for the intranet or a subdomain? 17:23 patric The instructions tell you to create it and modify it 17:23 wahanui i guess koha-sites.conf is never generated during install 17:23 patric koha-sites.conf? 17:21 jcamins patric: it depends whether you set up the intranet to listen on 8080 or as a virtual host. 17:21 patric koha-create --create-db library and an apache restart should have something showing up localhost:8080? 17:20 jcamins Howdy, patric. 17:20 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7332 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED , Translated title (MARC21 field 242) doesn't display 17:20 jcamins paul_p: also, while I'm bending your ear, is there anything I need to do to get bug 7332 in? 17:19 patric Howdy. 17:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7345 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED , Should be possible to export MARC records without private fields 17:19 jcamins paul_p: since you're around, question regarding bug 7345: any objection to cait's suggestion? 17:18 nengard :) 17:18 nengard afternoon 17:18 melia morning 17:18 paul_p tcohen, right 17:17 paul_p good morning melia. 17:16 tcohen right? 17:16 melia ok rhcl. thanks! 17:16 tcohen a patch against master, that uses setenv 17:16 rhcl melia: our director is out for the week; will snag her next week 17:16 tcohen ok 17:15 paul_p tcohen, mmm... in fact, I think that if I had seen this problem before, I could have proposed "failed QA", even if it's usefull. You're highly welcomed to send a patch finishing the job ! 17:15 tcohen and can even send a patch that reuses Context->memcached 17:15 tcohen I can send a patch that solves this 17:14 tcohen assuming big changes can lead the enhancement not to be included 17:14 tcohen i've been conservative in the way I propose several enhancements 17:14 tcohen just wanted to clarify 17:14 paul_p hi tcohen 17:13 tcohen hi paul_p 17:03 huginn bag: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 12.8�C (9:02 AM PST on December 28, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 30.17 in 1021.6 hPa (Falling). 17:03 bag @wunder 93109 16:42 * Oak goes back to movie 16:42 Oak sorry I just saw your message. watching movie... 16:41 Oak Happy Holidays! 16:41 Oak hello rhcl :o) 16:06 rhcl Hi Oak 15:52 jcamins Morning, rhcl. 15:49 rhcl morning jcamins 15:39 * jcamins wishes everyone a loud good morning. 15:35 * magnuse tip-toes off to make dinner 15:17 nengard got it :) 15:16 oleonard Because it's so quiet in here 15:16 nengard why are you whispering? 15:15 * oleonard whispers hello to all who have snuck in 13:38 magnuse hiya oleonard 13:38 oleonard Hi #koha 13:19 NateC Morning magnuse! 13:18 magnuse yo NateC! 13:08 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6842] Branch transfer limits broken <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6842> 13:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7241 minor, P5 - low, ---, ago, ASSIGNED , circulation action logs record biblionumber instead of item number 13:05 asaurat on bug 7241, do we agree on creating a new field ? (and does the name of the new field is ok ?) 12:00 vfernandes i'm having a problem with koha overdue emails.... when the library is closed and the fines scripts runs fine (temporary file is correctly filled) the emails for overdue notices are filled with fine equal to 0.0 11:57 vfernandes hi koha community 08:59 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5347] late order management <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5347> 08:51 hdl magnuse: hehe... Hi #koha 08:50 magnuse kia ora paul_p and hdl 08:50 paul_p bonjour cait 08:50 hdl hi cait 08:49 cait bonjour hdl and paul_p :) 08:49 hdl hi rangi 08:47 cait hi sophie_m :) 08:47 sophie_m hello #koha 08:46 cait you are welcome :) 08:45 magnuse cait++ 08:45 magnuse guten tag cait, and thanks for the signoff 08:45 cait morning magnuse 08:44 magnuse hello world! 08:44 rangi heh 08:43 cait evening nz 08:43 rangi morning france 08:17 cait hi francharb 08:16 francharb morning 08:15 cait hi asaurat and gaetan_B :) 08:15 gaetan_B hello #koha! 08:06 asaurat hi! 07:46 wahanui hi, julian_m 07:46 julian_m hello 05:51 huginn Oak: The operation succeeded. 05:51 Oak @later tell cait http://www.cheatography.com/monsieur-h/cheat-sheets/network-lesson/pdf/ 04:32 AmitG can we break the text using PDF::Reuse 03:25 bag heya AmitG 03:25 AmitG heya bag 01:35 cait ok, not distracting you then 01:35 cait heh 01:35 chrisdothall sorry was looking through the translation scripts like a good elf 01:34 cait and now he is hiding... 01:09 * cait sends cookies 01:09 cait breaks my heart 01:09 cait the sad smiley 01:09 cait oh don't do that 01:05 chrisdothall :( 01:02 huginn rangi: Karma for "chrisdothall" has been increased 2 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 2. 01:02 rangi @karma chrisdothall 01:02 cait that's not right 01:02 cait all those great template work and only 1 karma 01:02 cait chrisdothall++ 01:02 cait ! 01:02 wahanui chrisdothall has karma of 1 01:02 cait karma for chrisdothall 01:00 wahanui karam has neutral karma 01:00 rangi karma for karam 00:59 rangi karam for cookies 00:59 cait I did 00:59 cait ah 00:59 rangi you said karma 00:59 cait forget and cookies... 00:59 cait what brought that up? 00:59 wahanui yes, cait? 00:59 cait wahanui? 00:58 cait and a lot nicer 00:58 wahanui and cookies.. that is a hard offer to refuse. has neutral karma 00:58 chrisdothall ohh karma AND cookies.. that is a hard offer to refuse. 00:57 cait more like promising cookies and lots of karma if you might consider looking into it? 00:57 cait hm 00:57 chrisdothall cait: so this is your friendly reminder to do it? if so, thanks, it had slipped my mind :( 00:54 cait heh 00:54 chrisdothall as soon as you asked if I was there I thought it was about that :) 00:53 cait exactly 00:53 chrisdothall 7327? 00:53 cait that got magically assigned to you 00:53 cait there is this bug 00:52 * cait tries to find the ball and chain 00:52 cait than you will probably try to run away soon 00:52 chrisdothall I may suddenly come down with the flu or something.. 00:52 cait hm 00:52 chrisdothall cait: exactly :) 00:51 cait :) 00:51 cait depending on my question? 00:51 cait maybe? 00:51 chrisdothall cait: maybe 00:51 cait chrisdothall: still around?