Time Nick Message 00:51 cait chrisdothall: still around? 00:51 chrisdothall cait: maybe 00:51 cait maybe? 00:51 cait depending on my question? 00:51 cait :) 00:52 chrisdothall cait: exactly :) 00:52 cait hm 00:52 chrisdothall I may suddenly come down with the flu or something.. 00:52 cait than you will probably try to run away soon 00:52 * cait tries to find the ball and chain 00:53 cait there is this bug 00:53 cait that got magically assigned to you 00:53 chrisdothall 7327? 00:53 cait exactly 00:54 chrisdothall as soon as you asked if I was there I thought it was about that :) 00:54 cait heh 00:57 chrisdothall cait: so this is your friendly reminder to do it? if so, thanks, it had slipped my mind :( 00:57 cait hm 00:57 cait more like promising cookies and lots of karma if you might consider looking into it? 00:58 chrisdothall ohh karma AND cookies.. that is a hard offer to refuse. 00:58 wahanui and cookies.. that is a hard offer to refuse. has neutral karma 00:58 cait and a lot nicer 00:59 cait wahanui? 00:59 wahanui yes, cait? 00:59 cait what brought that up? 00:59 cait forget and cookies... 00:59 rangi you said karma 00:59 cait ah 00:59 cait I did 00:59 rangi karam for cookies 01:00 rangi karma for karam 01:00 wahanui karam has neutral karma 01:02 cait karma for chrisdothall 01:02 wahanui chrisdothall has karma of 1 01:02 cait ! 01:02 cait chrisdothall++ 01:02 cait all those great template work and only 1 karma 01:02 cait that's not right 01:02 rangi @karma chrisdothall 01:02 huginn rangi: Karma for "chrisdothall" has been increased 2 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 2. 01:05 chrisdothall :( 01:09 cait oh don't do that 01:09 cait the sad smiley 01:09 cait breaks my heart 01:09 * cait sends cookies 01:34 cait and now he is hiding... 01:35 chrisdothall sorry was looking through the translation scripts like a good elf 01:35 cait heh 01:35 cait ok, not distracting you then 03:25 AmitG heya bag 03:25 bag heya AmitG 04:32 AmitG can we break the text using PDF::Reuse 05:51 Oak @later tell cait http://www.cheatography.com/monsieur-h/cheat-sheets/network-lesson/pdf/ 05:51 huginn Oak: The operation succeeded. 07:46 julian_m hello 07:46 wahanui hi, julian_m 08:06 asaurat hi! 08:15 gaetan_B hello #koha! 08:15 cait hi asaurat and gaetan_B :) 08:16 francharb morning 08:17 cait hi francharb 08:43 rangi morning france 08:43 cait evening nz 08:44 rangi heh 08:44 magnuse hello world! 08:45 cait morning magnuse 08:45 magnuse guten tag cait, and thanks for the signoff 08:45 magnuse cait++ 08:46 cait you are welcome :) 08:47 sophie_m hello #koha 08:47 cait hi sophie_m :) 08:49 hdl hi rangi 08:49 cait bonjour hdl and paul_p :) 08:50 hdl hi cait 08:50 paul_p bonjour cait 08:50 magnuse kia ora paul_p and hdl 08:51 hdl magnuse: hehe... Hi #koha 08:59 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5347] late order management <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5347> 11:57 vfernandes hi koha community 12:00 vfernandes i'm having a problem with koha overdue emails.... when the library is closed and the fines scripts runs fine (temporary file is correctly filled) the emails for overdue notices are filled with fine equal to 0.0 13:05 asaurat on bug 7241, do we agree on creating a new field ? (and does the name of the new field is ok ?) 13:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7241 minor, P5 - low, ---, ago, ASSIGNED , circulation action logs record biblionumber instead of item number 13:08 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6842] Branch transfer limits broken <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6842> 13:18 magnuse yo NateC! 13:19 NateC Morning magnuse! 13:38 oleonard Hi #koha 13:38 magnuse hiya oleonard 15:15 * oleonard whispers hello to all who have snuck in 15:16 nengard why are you whispering? 15:16 oleonard Because it's so quiet in here 15:17 nengard got it :) 15:35 * magnuse tip-toes off to make dinner 15:39 * jcamins wishes everyone a loud good morning. 15:49 rhcl morning jcamins 15:52 jcamins Morning, rhcl. 16:06 rhcl Hi Oak 16:41 Oak hello rhcl :o) 16:41 Oak Happy Holidays! 16:42 Oak sorry I just saw your message. watching movie... 16:42 * Oak goes back to movie 17:03 bag @wunder 93109 17:03 huginn bag: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 12.8�C (9:02 AM PST on December 28, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 30.17 in 1021.6 hPa (Falling). 17:13 tcohen hi paul_p 17:14 paul_p hi tcohen 17:14 tcohen just wanted to clarify 17:14 tcohen i've been conservative in the way I propose several enhancements 17:14 tcohen assuming big changes can lead the enhancement not to be included 17:15 tcohen I can send a patch that solves this 17:15 tcohen and can even send a patch that reuses Context->memcached 17:15 paul_p tcohen, mmm... in fact, I think that if I had seen this problem before, I could have proposed "failed QA", even if it's usefull. You're highly welcomed to send a patch finishing the job ! 17:16 tcohen ok 17:16 rhcl melia: our director is out for the week; will snag her next week 17:16 tcohen a patch against master, that uses setenv 17:16 melia ok rhcl. thanks! 17:16 tcohen right? 17:17 paul_p good morning melia. 17:18 paul_p tcohen, right 17:18 melia morning 17:18 nengard afternoon 17:18 nengard :) 17:19 jcamins paul_p: since you're around, question regarding bug 7345: any objection to cait's suggestion? 17:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7345 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED , Should be possible to export MARC records without private fields 17:19 patric Howdy. 17:20 jcamins paul_p: also, while I'm bending your ear, is there anything I need to do to get bug 7332 in? 17:20 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7332 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED , Translated title (MARC21 field 242) doesn't display 17:20 jcamins Howdy, patric. 17:21 patric koha-create --create-db library and an apache restart should have something showing up localhost:8080? 17:21 jcamins patric: it depends whether you set up the intranet to listen on 8080 or as a virtual host. 17:23 patric koha-sites.conf? 17:23 wahanui i guess koha-sites.conf is never generated during install 17:23 patric The instructions tell you to create it and modify it 17:24 jcamins patric: right. Did you set a port for the intranet or a subdomain? 17:25 pastebot "patric" at 68.98.203.253 pasted "koha-site.conf" (7 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/172 17:26 jcamins patric: in that case, you'll need to access the intranet on library-intra.smcs.local 17:26 jcamins (rather than port 8080) 17:28 patric Lookee there 17:29 patric thank you very much, the README.Debian still lists adding listen 8080 to ports.conf, is that deprecated? 17:30 jcamins patric: that's for if you're not using the packages. 17:30 jcamins The packages take care of most of that for you. 17:30 patric Gotcha 17:30 patric default user/pass?/ 17:30 patric (I should be looking this up) 17:31 jcamins patric: you'll need to get that out of your koha-conf.xml file. 17:31 jcamins Search for "pass" -- it'll probably be the third occurrence. 17:31 jcamins It's randomly generated. 17:31 patric very nice 17:33 patric no has, the plaintext in the xml is the password? 17:33 patric hash, not has 17:33 paul_p jcamins, I must leave. About 7345 i feel I still don't understand, but I have to read & try to understand more. About 7332, nope, it seems everybody agrees with the "heavy XSLT" idea, i'll QA & push it ASAP. 17:33 jcamins paul_p: thanks. 17:35 patric username is koha_$site? 17:35 jcamins patric: yup. 17:42 * jcamins tosses trea[1-3]? the duct tape. 17:55 patric alrighty, I have some plaintext from an ancient unsupported library system that I'd like to convert and import, are there any thoughts on which marc flavor I'll have better luck with? 17:55 jcamins patric: where are you located? 17:55 jcamins patric: you choose MARC flavor based on what other libraries around you use, not based on up-front conversion. 17:57 patric Newton Kansas, in the US 17:57 jcamins patric: MARC21 it is. :) 17:57 wizzyrea I know where newton is 17:57 patric no way 17:57 wizzyrea way 17:58 * wizzyrea could probably be there in a couple of hours ;) 17:58 * jcamins could not. 17:58 wizzyrea mmm 3 more likely 17:58 wizzyrea or so. 17:58 jcamins wizzyrea: happy holidays! 17:58 wizzyrea oh hi :) 18:00 trea ugh. think my wireless router is having an aneurysm. i've hardwired it. 18:00 trea apologies for the bouncing 18:00 * jcamins hands trea some more duct tape. 18:09 cait hi #koha 18:10 jcamins Hi cait. 18:10 wahanui Hi cait. are you looking at the rwc final? 18:10 cait forget Hi cait? 18:10 cait and hi jcamins :) 18:10 jcamins Hi cait? 18:10 jcamins cait: looks like it worked. 18:10 cait Hi cait. 18:10 wahanui Hi cait. are you looking at the rwc final? 18:10 jcamins Nope. 18:10 cait no 18:10 cait forget Hi cait. 18:10 jcamins wahanui: forget Hi cait. 18:10 wahanui jcamins, I didn't have anything matching hi cait 18:10 cait hmm 18:11 cait Hi cait. 18:11 wahanui Hi cait. are you looking at the rwc final? 18:11 cait grr. 18:11 cait magnuse++ 18:12 pastebot "patric" at 68.98.203.253 pasted "list of text files from old broken system" (10 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/173 18:13 jcamins patric: you're going to have a lot of working converting that. 18:13 patric I was afraid of that 18:14 patric Any pointers? 18:14 jcamins patric: not really. 18:17 jcamins Hi cait. 18:17 cait jcamins: I see you responded to my notes about 7031 18:17 cait :) 18:17 jcamins bug 7031 18:17 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7031 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED , More options for AdvancedSearchTypes 18:17 cait I guessed 1 was not possible 18:17 jcamins Ah, yes I did. 18:17 cait but wanted to note it 18:18 * jcamins doesn't see 2 as cause for failing QA, but I see that's not why you failed it. 18:18 jcamins :) 18:18 jcamins Makes sense. 18:26 trea unless i'm missing something, bug 1807 18:26 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1807 blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , ':' character blocks search ; search () give odd results 18:27 trea and bug 2629 both show in the git logs, but neither says pushed 18:27 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2629 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, ago, ASSIGNED , Diacritics not being ignored when searching 18:27 cait jcamins: i was not sure about it either 18:28 cait if that's enough to fail 18:28 cait but I think ian can decide 18:28 trea 2629 is listed as Needs Signoff, and 1807 is Failed QA. are they just miscategorized? 18:41 cait @wunder Konstanz 18:41 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -1.0�C (7:39 PM CET on December 28, 2011). Conditions: Light Freezing Fog. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: -2.0�C. Windchill: -1.0�C. Pressure: 30.36 in 1028.0 hPa (Falling). 18:41 cait @wunder Reutlingen 18:41 huginn cait: The current temperature in Reutlingen, Germany is 3.6�C (7:41 PM CET on December 28, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: -6.0�C. Windchill: 4.0�C. Pressure: 28.94 in 979.9 hPa (Steady). 18:41 cait bug 2629 18:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2629 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, ago, ASSIGNED , Diacritics not being ignored when searching 18:41 jcamins @wunder 11375 18:41 huginn jcamins: The current temperature in Middle Village, Queens, New York is 5.8�C (1:40 PM EST on December 28, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: -3.0�C. Windchill: 3.0�C. Pressure: 29.54 in 1000.2 hPa (Rising). 18:42 cait trea: 2629 is correct as needs signoff It ink 18:42 jcamins cait: if you can replicate the problem, please do. 18:42 jcamins (for sign off) 18:43 cait ah 18:43 cait did I misread? 18:43 trea cait perhaps i'm missing something, but if it needs signoff would it show up here? http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ff96db8a5491205bb919ee92a86d9735bddf3098 18:43 cait you asked for the record I think 18:43 jcamins cait: no, it's still needs sign off. 18:43 jcamins trea: that's a different patch than the one that needs sign off. 18:43 cait trea: there have been several patches to this bug 18:43 jcamins Sorry, I'm a bit late to the discussion. 18:44 jcamins ago43's patch still has not been signed off and pushed. 18:44 cait the one still needing sign off is from ago43 18:44 cait what jcamins said 18:44 * cait is typing too slow 18:44 trea mmm, confusing 18:44 trea confusing? 18:44 wahanui somebody said confusing was "Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?" 18:45 jcamins trea: if you'd like to attach the problematic record to the bug, that might encourage me to try signing off again. 18:45 trea i'll see what i can do 18:45 cait i think pushed patches should be marked obsolete at bugs like this 18:45 cait makes it a bit less confusing and easier for git bz users 18:45 * jcamins loses interest quickly when faced with a library that disables MARC export on the OPAC. 18:46 trea ^^ 18:54 jcamins ago43: I'll need the actual MARC record to test it. Marlboro has disabled export. 18:55 * tcohen needs a good oo perl reference manual 18:55 ago43 jcamins: I'll dig that out. 18:56 jcamins ago43: thanks. 19:12 rangi manus_afk: http://donum.no/ <-- that you 19:12 jcamins donum++ # great name 19:14 jcamins ago43: thanks. 19:16 cait rangi: http://libriotech.no/node/131 :) 19:16 rangi ahh ta 19:17 rangi i knew i had seen it before somewhere 19:18 ago43 jcamins: you're welcome. sorry I forgot about that. 19:22 jcamins ago43: no problem. I'll sign off on it as soon as I get the chance. 19:31 jcamins Whoah! 19:31 rangi whoah? 19:31 jcamins rangi Princeton switched to a discovery layer. 19:31 rangi ah 19:32 jcamins rangi: and it is using up *all* my bandwidth. 19:32 jcamins Not a winner. 19:34 jcamins And it's just Primo. 19:35 jcamins Huh. Wonder what they did wrong. 20:14 rhcl I'll be the first to get Koha running on it. http://www.slashgear.com/raspberry-pi-25-usd-computer-coming-in-january-28204830/ 20:15 rangi :) 20:15 jcamins rhcl++ 20:15 rangi someone had koha running on their playstation 20:15 rangi why .. because they could 20:16 rhcl hey, the sony cell processors aren't bad. If you get a bunch of 'em you can build a semi-respectable supercomputer. Somebody did that, I seem to remember. 20:17 jcamins rhcl: a shame that Koha isn't massively parallel. 20:20 rangi oh this was old playstation 20:20 rangi not nice ps3 20:21 rhcl nice -> http://www.raspberrypi.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/PC236526.jpg 20:37 jcamins rhcl: you are responsible for the massive loss of productivity that is going to occur in my circle of technical friends. 20:37 jcamins rhcl: I hope you can live with that on your conscience. :P 20:43 jcamins rangi++ 20:43 rangi ? 20:44 jcamins rangi: integrating Wikipedia with Koha. 20:45 rangi ah yeah 20:45 rangi thats cait's fault 20:45 rangi cait++ 20:45 cait :) 20:57 rhcl jcamins: say what? translate to English 20:58 cait rangi++ :) 20:58 jcamins rhcl: I had never heard of Raspberry Pi. Neither had any of my non-Koha friends. 20:58 jcamins Now we all have. 21:00 rhcl and raspberry will negatively affect productivity? I've got some dark projects linked somewhere better than that. 21:00 jcamins rhcl: well, it will negatively affect productivity for products that don't involve Raspberry Pi boards. :P 21:03 rhcl You know, for a while I was on a kick to rejuvenate firewalls. I'd take something like a Firebox (http://image.minoc.com/zd_images/2002/06/020205_watchguard.jpg) that was going out of service, and load smoothwall on it. 21:04 rhcl Did that with two Fireboxes, a Symantec Velicoraptor (http://home.comcast.net/~dean.fujiwara/symantec_velociraptor.jpg) and a few others. I picked out stuff that was cheap on eBay and pretty. 21:05 jcamins rhcl: how many firewalls did you need? 21:05 rhcl I've been trying to clean out stuff today in my network room, and I saw that I still have one pending project box--a big massive steel rackmount sucker 21:05 rhcl you can never have too many :) 21:06 rhcl You know, I had some oddball white firewall I rehabbed, but I haven't seen it in a while. Wonder where it is? 21:07 jcamins rhcl: any of your branches reporting fewer than usual viruses? ;) 21:08 rhcl mostly I don't use these at the library. We have grown-up Cisco ASAs for that. I have used them occasionally at work, but mostly at home. 21:08 rhcl this is all with my own money and time, of course 21:09 rhcl and I got bored after a while, when the challenge kinda went away after I'd done about 6 or so. 21:12 rhcl to be honest, I love working on computers, but lately I've been sorta feeling like a computer is a computer, and I need something more of a challenge. 21:13 rhcl a number of years ago I exchanged emails with this group - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armadillo_Aerospace - right when they were starting up and looking for people to join them 21:13 jcamins rhcl: time to take up embedded systems? 21:13 rhcl I was tempted, but in the military and moving every 2 years, so there was no way it could have worked out 21:14 rhcl embedded? well, that's kinda like firewalls, so I'd need an exciting use/application to grab my interest 21:14 jcamins rhcl: telemetry systems for model cars? 21:15 rhcl telemetry for rockets maybe. I do have a bit of a background in RF 21:17 jcamins "First object cataloged from space in MARC21. French libraries object that MARC21 is not nearly as universal as its proponents would like us to think." 21:18 rhcl for a while I was messing around w/ ACARS decoders. http://www.acarsd.org http://www.airnavsystems.com/acars/ http://www.dxzone.com/tag-acars-decoder/ 21:21 rhcl http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nATMe_NKgo0 21:26 talljoy hey koha! anyone familiar with adding records to the message_attributes table? I added a record and it appears in the patron screen as 'unknown' not the message name i provided. 21:32 rangi it will do that if it doesnt have valid transports set for it 21:33 rangi talljoy: look at 21:34 rangi installer/data/mysql/en/mandatory/sample_notices_message_transports.sql 21:34 talljoy that explains these random values from some other version of "koha" 21:34 rangi ah yeah 21:35 rangi basically look in that dir installer/data/mysql/en/mandatory/ there are 3 sql files for the notices 21:35 rangi they all work together 21:36 talljoy okay. 21:37 jcamins talljoy: I left a message for you with huginn about this, but you need to delete automatically-generated authority records when working with MARCIVE. 21:40 rhcl you got me thinking about my last unstarted project. I have one of these in the closet downstairs -> http://www.usedcomp.de/infos/nokia_ip530_a.jpg 21:40 rhcl 4 NICs + (2) 4-port switches. I outta be able to do something exciting with this. 21:48 rangi hiya jcamins 21:48 rangi hmm jransom even 21:49 jransom hello 21:50 jransom you often type jcamins instead of jransom 21:50 Brooke o/ 21:50 rangi its tab completion 21:50 jransom hey! 21:50 jransom there you go 21:50 jransom wacthed once were warriors again last night with a bunch of teenagers 21:50 jransom fascinating 21:50 Brooke good on you 21:50 jransom when i first watched i was shocked silent 21:50 Brooke I can't believe that Emma had to sit your arse back down :P 21:51 jcamins Time to head home. 21:51 jransom not this lot - fascinating listening to their commentary 21:51 jcamins Good night, #koha. 21:51 jransom shocked that noone did anything, or spoke up, or protected the kids or the wife, and that even the wifes friend just ignored the violence .. 21:51 jransom society has so move don 21:52 jransom this is cool: http://www.metservice.com/national/maps-rain-radar/rain-radar/all-new-zealand 21:53 jransom just rang my boy and told him to scarper off the coromandel and head to cover 21:53 rangi yeah its gonna be wet 21:53 Brooke wet > dry 21:54 jransom oh yeah - he said its been pelting down for ages already and its not even showing blue where he is yet 21:54 Brooke he'll be safe if it's Connor or Wills 21:55 Brooke if it's Liam, that boy needs the help of God and two peelers. 21:55 jransom its connor 21:55 jransom oops 21:55 jransom william 21:55 jransom connor is staying home today: completely knackered having paddled a 4 man surf canoe for much of yesterday 21:55 jransom without sun block ..... 21:56 Brooke If I ever find a runner, I'm meant to pilot the canoe in the Women's Triathlon. Kay called the horse.