Time  Nick         Message
00:12 jcamins_away @later tell talljoy I don't remember if I told you this, but you need to delete all the system-generated authority records for the MARCIVE project you're doing. That just occurred to me as I was cleaning out an authority file.
00:12 huginn       jcamins_away: The operation succeeded.
03:31 AmitG        heya bag
03:32 bag          hey AmitG
03:59 libsysguy    seen rangi
03:59 wahanui      rangi was last seen on #koha 8 hours, 29 minutes and 54 seconds ago, saying: @quote random [Thu Dec 22 19:29:27 2011]
03:59 libsysguy    heard there was another earthquake in christchurch
04:00 libsysguy    anybody heard from the catalyst guys?
04:19 mtj          no word yet from them
04:20 mtj          the catalyst peeps are hopefully fine, and having beer and pizza about now-ish
04:21 AmitG        heya mtj
04:22 * mtj        waves to amit o
05:15 rhcl_home    Well, I just saw the news of the NZ (Christchurch) quakes. I hope rangi and everyone there is fine.
05:48 cait         good morning #koha
05:58 AmitG        waves to cait \o
05:59 cait         hi AmitG
06:29 yhager       Looks like the page for koha-3.4.7 is missing from the web site. the link from the home page is broken: http://koha-community.org/koha-3-4-7/
06:34 cait         I have a hold that is not being recognized on return
06:34 cait         and  have no idea why that happens :(
06:49 cait         ok
06:49 cait         I have no idea why this is going wrong but I don't like it
06:50 cait         @later wizzyrea I have problems with holds - can you help me? on master my hold is not getting any hold message on return :(
06:50 huginn       cait: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
06:52 magnus_away  cait: later *tell* ... i think ;-)
06:52 cait         yeah
06:52 cait         still tired and a bit annoyed at koha right now
06:55 cait         meh
06:55 cait         7282 missed 3.6.2
06:56 magnus_away  bug 7282
06:56 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7282 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, semarie-koha, ASSIGNED , invalid language selection
06:57 julian_m     hi
07:06 magnuse      bonjour julian_m
07:07 julian_m     hello magnuse
07:09 magnuse      last day before xmas, eh?
07:09 julian_m     yes :-)
07:10 magnuse      too bad the weekend almost eats up all the days off
07:10 magnuse      in norway we get half of the 24th off + all of 25th and 26th
07:10 NasaieIAIS   hi..
07:11 magnuse      hiya NasaieIAIS
07:11 NasaieIAIS   I'm Nasaie from Malaysia
07:11 magnuse      nice to meet you!
07:11 NasaieIAIS   nice to meet you too
07:12 magnuse      :-)
07:12 NasaieIAIS   my library using koha
07:12 magnuse      yay!
07:12 NasaieIAIS   huhuhu....you too?
07:13 magnuse      i don't work in a library, i try to sell services to libraries ;-)
07:13 NasaieIAIS   owh...is it...
07:13 NasaieIAIS   actually I have an enquiry
07:14 magnuse      this is a good place to ask
07:14 NasaieIAIS   is it?
07:15 magnuse      the best! ;-)
07:15 NasaieIAIS   I want a know if is there a way to print our title, author, callnumber and barcode in 1 list?
07:17 magnuse      hm, that sounds like a job for a report
07:18 NasaieIAIS   yes...
07:19 magnuse      NasaieIAIS: have you looked at the report tool, and the manual?
07:19 NasaieIAIS   but i cant find a way to do that
07:20 alex_a       mornig #koha
07:20 NasaieIAIS   yes...I already did but not quite understand...
07:20 NasaieIAIS   morning alex
07:20 magnuse      NasaieIAIS: This might be silimar to what you are looking for: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/SQL_Reports_Library#Complete_Shelf_list
07:21 magnuse      or this: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/SQL_Reports_Library#All_Barcodes
07:22 magnuse      similar, not silimar...
07:23 NasaieIAIS   erm....I already read it...but I'm not understand on how to do it
07:24 magnuse      here's the relevant part of the docs: http://manual.koha-community.org/3.6/en/reports.html#reportfromsql
07:26 NasaieIAIS   ok....I try to do it again
07:27 magnuse      do you have more than one library in your installation?
07:29 pastebot     "magnuse" at 109.189.10.165 pasted "title, author, callnumber and barcode" (4 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/163
07:29 magnuse      NasaieIAIS: click on that link for a slightly edited version of one of the reports from the wiki
07:32 NasaieIAIS   no...
07:32 magnuse      it will give you a report for all libraries in your installation, if there is more than one
07:33 magnuse      the report tool only shows 20 lines on each page, but you can download everything as a comma separated file and open that in a spreadsheet and print from there
07:33 AmitG        heya magnuse
07:33 magnuse      hi AmitG
07:35 magnuse      sorry, i have to go, will be back later
07:35 NasaieIAIS   ok...
07:36 NasaieIAIS   anyway..thanks...
08:05 kf           hi #koha
08:07 reiveune     hello
08:07 wahanui      hey, reiveune
08:08 kf           hi reiveune
08:08 asaurat      hi !!
08:08 kf           and merry christmas :)
08:08 kf           hi asaurat :)
08:09 reiveune     hi everybody and merry christmas :)
08:09 AmitG        namaste kf
08:09 kf           hi again AmitG :)
08:14 AmitG        kf: Merry Christmas in Advance :D
08:20 kf           merry christmas to you too AmitG
08:23 gaetan_B     hello
08:24 kf           hi gaetan_B
08:32 kmkale       Namaskaar #koha :)
08:43 francharb    morning
08:47 kmkale       Namaste francharb :)
08:53 francharb    Namaste kmkale ;)
09:27 kf           back
09:38 * kmkale     waves at kf
09:39 kf           hi kmkslr
09:39 kf           kmkale
09:40 kmkale       :)
10:00 kmkale       looks like the weekend shift has started
10:02 kf           yes
10:02 kf           and holidays here
10:05 kmkale       been travelling for 6 days without net access. Any interesting developments in the community?
10:05 asaurat      we switched to C# on ISS servers
10:05 asaurat      IIS
10:05 kf           lol
10:05 kf           asaurat: you are mean
10:05 asaurat      :D
10:06 kf           you forgot to mention we changed the opac to php
10:06 kmkale       :-D
10:06 kf           ah, should have said flash
10:07 kmkale       :-D
10:07 * kmkale     is sad it wasn't Java ;)
10:08 * kf         too
10:10 kmkale       how does a patch goes from signed off to pushed for QA?
10:10 kmkale       I think thats the next life stage for a patch right?
10:31 kf           not all get pushed for qa
10:31 kf           can be signed off > passed qa > patch pushed to
10:49 huginn       New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6752] Be stricter with utf-8 output <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6752>
11:17 AmitG        heya kmkale
11:18 kmkale       hi AmitG
11:40 reiveune     bye and merry christmas :)
11:50 * magnus_afk waves and wanders off again
11:50 * kf         waves at wandering magnuse
12:07 kmkale       so does the RM or QM periodically do a scan of all Signed Off patches?
12:26 asaurat      merry christmas !! bye !
13:10 tcohen       hi #koha
13:48 tcohen       a quick poll, has anyone evaluated the use of Test::MockObject in koha?
13:57 kf           tcohen: I think today is not the best day for quick polls :)
13:58 tcohen       kf: just noticed :D
13:58 jwagner      or even slow polls
13:58 hdl          tcohen: we did at biblibre.
13:58 hdl          And found it was quite interesting.
13:58 hdl          But haven't done much of it yet.
13:59 tcohen       i was thinking on how to make unit tests for Koha::Index::Zebra once i put my hands on it
14:00 kf           unit_tests++
14:00 tcohen       and thought mocking some things would make testing possible (mock several db/configs/zebra error output, etc
14:01 hdl          tcohen: it was in that purpose...
14:02 hdl          that we worked on that.
14:02 tcohen       hdl: did u find some other helper libs that might be worth looking?
14:07 hdl          not that much. from my experience, PERL is quite new in the culture of complex automated tests.
14:18 magnus_afk   kf: do you think bug 6090 should be failed qa?
14:18 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6090 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, julian.maurice, ASSIGNED , empty mails in message_queue are sent
14:18 * magnus_afk hides
14:18 kf           let me see
14:28 kf           hm
14:28 kf           fail because it does not solve the problem?
14:29 kf           only the symptom?
14:29 magnus_afk   yeah, both comments seem to be negative
14:29 hdl          kf : it doesnot pretend to solve the symptom.
14:29 hdl          It is a workaround.
14:29 magnus_afk   or is it better to fix the symptom that not doing anything?
14:29 kf           it's a script
14:30 kf           perhaps we should file a separate bug
14:30 kf           but who wants can download the script from bugzilla
14:30 kf           like it was proposed for the script fixing the accountnumbers
14:30 magnus_afk   true
14:30 kf           but I would really like to know what is causing the empty messages
14:31 kf           will have to check that in one of our bigger databases
14:31 kf           never seen it happening
14:31 kf           yeah
14:31 kf           nothing like that in our oldest databse
14:31 kf           hm.
14:32 kf           have to go - getting a cold one day before christmas :(
14:32 kf           merry christmas to you all, happy holidays and if we don't read each other again before - happy new year :)
14:32 maximep      happy holidays!
14:32 magnus_afk   have fun kf!
14:33 hdl          fohe weinachten
14:33 kf           thx hdl - to you too
14:33 hdl          merry christmas.
14:33 magnus_afk   godt bl�t!
14:50 tcohen       hdl: using MockObject would mean adding a new dependency to Koha? or dependencies for testing purposes have a different workflow
14:50 tcohen       (for inclusion)ç
14:53 hdl1         tcohen: in fact, having more dependencies is not really a problem imho.
14:53 hdl1         What is a problem is if for want of a module, we CANNOT do the job ppl expect us to do.
14:54 hdl1         And you are right, translations AND testing module should follow a different workflow for dependencies.
14:55 hdl1         But this could be a discussion to open on koha-devel rather than here on Christmas Eve
14:56 tcohen       hehe
14:56 tcohen       u r right
14:56 tcohen       people are asking me to power offf my desktop right now
14:56 tcohen       they are wainting for me to leave
14:57 tcohen       bye and merry christmas to every1
14:57 tcohen       !!!!
14:57 tcohen       thanks hdl1
14:57 hdl1         tcohen: ur welcome
14:58 hdl1         hi libsysguy
15:00 ks           Not sure where I go to get a simple question answered.  I am REALLY new to KOHA.  I installed 3.06 using a Ubantu CD.  Koha looks great and I know it works as the person helping me had it running on their system.  Now that I have back at my school, I have now internet settings.  I know what the IP settings are, but need help setting them in Firefox and KOHA.
15:05 libsysguy    hi hdl1
15:05 libsysguy    hdl1 are you excited about hourly?
15:06 hdl1         hourly loans ?
15:06 wahanui      hourly loans are indeed on the horizon, that would help you. Patron records can be kept indefinitely (though probably you'd want to archive them periodically
15:06 libsysguy    its going to be a Merry Christmas for libsysguy if that gets added
15:06 hdl1         it could be interesting... I won't test that today.
15:38 jcamins      Good morning, #koha.
15:39 jwagner      morning, jcamins
15:44 huginn       New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6681] When importing a biblio record via Z39.50, authority links also get imported <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6681>
15:46 maximep      look at us, all working and sending patches -_-
15:51 libsysguy    libsysguy_afk
15:51 libsysguy    oops
16:42 rhcl         @seen jcamins
16:42 huginn       rhcl: jcamins was last seen in #koha 1 hour, 3 minutes, and 51 seconds ago: <jcamins> Good morning, #koha.
16:42 jcamins      Good morning, rhcl.
16:46 jcamins      Huh. Anyone ever seen z-brary.com? It seems to be more extensive than irspy, and I've never heard of it before.
16:57 maximep      it sure is more simple
16:57 jcamins      maximep: yeah, but all the information in irspy is of only limited use when they don't list the Z39.50 server you want.
17:00 jcamins      ;)
17:09 rhcl         jcamins: debian is finishing up its install in vbox as we speak
17:10 rhcl         then I'll get koha loaded and post a couple of screenshots somewhere
17:10 jcamins      rhcl: I gather it went pretty smoothly?
17:10 rhcl         like silk
17:29 rhcl         @seen rangi
17:29 huginn       rhcl: rangi was last seen in #koha 22 hours and 8 seconds ago: <rangi> @quote random
17:44 jcamins      Hey... other than index size, can anyone give me a reason not to send see-from headings to Zebra as part of bibliographic records?
17:46 jcamins      And "processing required to compose a record out of bib, items, and authorities."
17:48 cait         search?
17:48 wahanui      somebody said search was for the patrons not the librarians
17:48 cait         jcamins: in which context?
17:49 jcamins      wahanui: very true.
17:49 wahanui      I know. That's why I said it.
17:49 cait         jcamins: wht you ask here sounds interesting
17:49 cait         very interesting even
17:49 cait         what are you working on?
17:50 jcamins      cait: if we included see-from headings in bibliographic records, Zebra would automatically pull up records with old forms of headings.
17:50 jcamins      Or, if you searched for the old form, would automatically pull up the new.
17:50 cait         yes
17:50 cait         I know
17:50 cait         or search for a pseudonym
17:50 jcamins      Yep.
17:50 cait         and still find all records from the author
17:50 cait         that's why we wanted that like forever
17:50 * jcamins    thinks it would be a wonderful thing.
17:51 cait         very wonderful
17:51 cait         and it would really help making libraries adopt koha
17:51 cait         is there a way we could do it like we do for embedding items?
17:51 jcamins      Bug 7284 is the first step to making that happen.
17:51 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7284 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, NEW , Authority matching algorithm improvements
17:51 jcamins      cait: my thought exactly.
17:51 jcamins      Great minds!
17:51 cait         not sure my mind is great - but yours certainly is
17:52 jcamins      Aww. Thanks. I'm sure yours is great if mine is, though. :)
17:58 cait         heh ok
18:23 wizzyrea     is it time for the party?
18:23 wizzyrea     ^>^
18:23 wizzyrea     ^.^
18:23 * jcamins    sent you some confetti.
18:23 * wizzyrea   gets out the eggnog
18:23 * wizzyrea   gets out the peanut brittle
18:23 * wizzyrea   gets out the gingersnap cookies
18:23 * jcamins    sets... 19+5+3+2+6+4 containers of fudge out.
18:24 wizzyrea     jebus
18:24 cait         that all sounds quite yummy
18:24 jcamins      (39 containers total?)
18:24 * cait       gets out... dominosteine
18:24 cait         oh
18:24 cait         and lebkuchen
18:24 wahanui      lebkuchen are spicy german holiday cookies. No, you may not have one.
18:24 cait         lol
18:24 wizzyrea     I love that bot.
18:24 cait         who told you about lebkuchen wahanui?
18:28 jcamins      fudge?
18:28 wahanui      i think fudge is the ambrosia of koha.
18:28 jcamins      :D
18:28 cait         hehe
18:30 * wizzyrea   sets out the holiday tree
18:30 * wizzyrea   sets the following present under it for jcamins:
18:30 wizzyrea     http://bit.ly/rpjmjs
18:31 cait         oooh!
18:31 * wizzyrea   sets the following present under it for cait:
18:31 wizzyrea     http://bit.ly/sLjPAO
18:31 cait         can I open it yet?
18:31 wizzyrea     of course :)
18:32 * jcamins    looks at his. Mmmm. Mantu.
18:32 cait         I got fred astaire? :)
18:32 wizzyrea     hehe yea
18:33 * wizzyrea   wonders who else is around
18:33 * jcamins    may have to make goat cheese and salami thingies.
18:33 jcamins      (the closest I generally get to dumplings)
18:33 wizzyrea     calzones!
18:33 cait         yum
18:34 cait         you make me hungry!
18:34 cait         and my fridge is almost empty
18:34 jcamins      wizzyrea: no, these are goat cheese and salami thingies, not calzones.
18:34 jcamins      Like...
18:34 wizzyrea     are you not big on asian food in your house jcamins
18:34 jcamins      wizzyrea: no, we're very big on asian food.
18:34 wizzyrea     ooo
18:34 * jcamins    just doesn't have any luck with dumplings.
18:35 cait         wizzyrea: why fred astaire?
18:35 * wizzyrea   could also send you the foolproof recipe for asian pork dumplings
18:35 * cait       smiels watching it
18:35 cait         smiles even
18:35 wizzyrea     I don't know, I saw it and I thought, you know, this would make kf smile
18:35 wizzyrea     which is really the only goal :)
18:35 cait         heh :)
18:35 cait         good work!
18:35 wizzyrea     \o/
18:36 wizzyrea     anybody else around?
18:36 * jcamins    can't find the URL for his food blog.
18:37 wizzyrea     @later tell paul_p Merry Christmas - a little digital present for you: http://bit.ly/tggDPM
18:37 huginn       wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.
18:38 jcamins      wizzyrea: anyway, what I was talking about were these delicious burek-goat cheese-sour cream-dill-salami packet things.
18:38 wizzyrea     yummmm
18:38 jcamins      Mix goat cheese, sour cream, dill, and bits of salami.
18:38 cait         oh yum
18:38 jcamins      Ooh! And hot pepper!
18:38 wizzyrea     bao are also delightful little asian bun thingies
18:39 jcamins      Some red pepper flakes are key.
18:39 wizzyrea     with a yeast dough
18:39 wizzyrea     they usually are
18:39 jcamins      Then you wrap them in burek, and bake.
18:39 jcamins      Then you eat.
18:39 wizzyrea     @later tell oleonard Merry Christmas - Here's a little digital present for you: http://bit.ly/uRUjOq
18:39 huginn       wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.
18:40 cait         heh
18:40 wizzyrea     hehe shhh don't tell him what it is
18:40 jcamins      Heh.
18:43 wizzyrea     @later tell eythian Merry Christmas - a little digital present for you: http://bit.ly/v6rECX
18:43 huginn       wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.
18:43 cait         oh!
18:44 wizzyrea     @later tell magnuse Merry Christmas - A little digital present for you: http://bit.ly/umflhB
18:44 huginn       wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.
18:44 wizzyrea     shhhh
18:44 wizzyrea     !!
18:45 cait         yesyes
18:45 cait         I was talking... about the weather
18:46 wizzyrea     @later tell gmcharlt Merry Catmas to you - a little digital present for you: http://bit.ly/rrHSJp
18:46 huginn       wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.
18:47 jcamins      Speaking of cats, Shari wants to get a teddy bear for Myshkin and train him to sleep hugging it.
18:48 wizzyrea     @later tell slef Happy Holidays - a little digital present for you: http://bit.ly/uhoIRF
18:48 huginn       wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.
18:48 wizzyrea     hahaha
18:51 cait         hm
18:51 cait         apparently
18:52 cait         the cake will only start baking if you turn on the oven
18:52 wizzyrea     lol
18:56 cait         that's the brownie incident all over again
18:56 jcamins      cait: you should put a note on the oven door.
18:57 cait         I thought I had turned it on...
18:57 cait         it was ticking
18:59 wizzyrea     for everybody: http://bit.ly/tjZGG3
19:00 * jcamins    goes to eat some lunch.
19:00 bag          heya all
19:00 wizzyrea     oh hi
19:02 jwagner      Here's something for everyone: http://www.harryanddavid.com/gifts/store/item____chocolate-gifts-bakery-gifts_cookies-brownies_26542
19:02 wizzyrea     oh i'm not done I'm just going slowly.
19:03 jwagner      Everyone have a good holiday -- bye
19:06 bag          hmmm…  I'm feeling left out - wizzyrea is passing out presents but must of left mine in her bag of presents ;)
19:07 bag          wizzyrea: here's yours http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-Wd-Q3F8KM
19:07 bag          heh
19:07 cait         I think she is only taking a dramatic break
19:07 cait         to make it more exciting
19:15 cait         merry christmas bag
19:23 bag          you too cait you too
19:23 bag          you are opening presents tonight - no?
19:24 cait         no, on 24th
19:24 cait         tonight is 23rd :)
19:25 cait         only present I got so far was a cold
19:26 bag          bummer
19:27 bag          oh right I thought you were a day ahead of me
19:27 cait         nope :)
19:27 cait         @wunder Konstanz
19:27 huginn       cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 5.8�C (8:25 PM CET on December 23, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: 5.0�C. Windchill: 6.0�C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1019.9 hPa (Steady).
19:27 bag          I think I'll beat that one easy it's amazing here
19:27 bag          @wunder 93109
19:27 huginn       bag: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 18.0�C (11:27 AM PST on December 23, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Pressure: 30.42 in 1030.0 hPa (Steady).
19:27 bag          yup
19:27 cait         still quite warm here :)
19:28 bag          @wunder sba
19:28 huginn       bag: The current temperature in Santa Barbara, California is 16.0�C (10:53 AM PST on December 23, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Pressure: 30.47 in 1032 hPa (Falling).
19:31 maximep      @wunder yul
19:31 huginn       maximep: The current temperature in Montreal, Quebec is -4.0�C (2:18 PM EST on December 23, 2011). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: N/A%. Windchill: -6.0�C. Pressure: (Steady).
19:33 yhager       @wunder ycg
19:33 huginn       yhager: The current temperature in Castlegar, British Columbia is -5.0�C (11:00 AM PST on December 23, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: -8.0�C. Windchill: -9.0�C. Pressure: 30.63 in 1037 hPa (Falling).
19:46 * jcamins    has a sip of eggnog.
19:46 jcamins      The non-alcoholic stuff.
19:46 * wizzyrea   puts on the tunes http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=wbW64J_RJZg
19:47 cait         :)
19:51 rhcl1        are the koha 3.6 debian packages broken?
19:51 jcamins      rhcl1: I haven't heard anything about them being broken, but I roll my own.
19:52 rhcl1        lots of broken dependencies, wonder if my sources.list is right
19:52 jcamins      What are you seeing?
19:52 cait         and are you installing koha-commons?
19:53 jcamins      rhcl1: which dependencies?
19:57 rhcl1        http://pastebin.com/vmsWujmN
20:00 jcamins      rhcl1: oh, I had that problem.
20:00 jcamins      You need to run it with the fix flag.
20:00 jcamins      Maybe -f.
20:01 jcamins      Yeah. apt-get update && apt-get -f install
20:02 jcamins      I think.
20:02 jcamins      It has something to do with the index not being updated the first time you run apt-get update
20:03 jcamins      irc logs?
20:03 wahanui      irc logs are ibot's friend :) or at http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/koha/
20:04 jcamins      rangi++
20:05 rhcl1        apt-get -f install koha-common == same same
20:05 jcamins      Hm.
20:06 cait         ah, what has he done this time?
20:06 jcamins      [off] Told off my least-favorite troll.
20:06 rhcl1        wonder if 3.4 packages are still available
20:06 cait         ah
20:06 cait         that
20:06 cait         yeah :)
20:06 jcamins      rhcl1: what's your apt.sources look like?
20:14 rhcl1        http://pastebin.com/avLUXsFu
20:19 jcamins      Hrm.
20:20 jcamins      That's odd.
20:20 wizzyrea     can you apt-get the packages independent of the koha package?
20:21 jcamins      Good idea.
20:21 wizzyrea     i mean, if that doesn't work then it's not the packages, it's your apt config
20:21 wizzyrea     or you've got something bad wrong elsewhere.
20:22 rhcl1        I can do sudo apt-get upgrade, yes
20:23 rhcl1        if I get really ambitions (Friday afternoon before Christmas?????) I just download the tarball and install it.
20:23 rhcl1        I'll
20:24 jcamins      rhcl1: what do you get when you run sudo apt-get -f install
20:24 jcamins      (without the koha-common)
20:25 rhcl1        but the general idea, jcamins, is that I'm quite sure that this machine would run Koha just fine in a deb vm in VirtualBox on Ubuntu base metal.
20:25 jcamins      rhcl1: very cool.
20:26 rhcl1        sudo apt-get -f install == 0 to upgrade 0 to install etc
20:26 jcamins      Hm.
20:27 rhcl1        I just did an apt-get upgrade
20:27 jcamins      And when you add an -f in the command: sudo apt-get -f install koha-common
20:27 jcamins      You get the same error?
20:28 rhcl1        yes, exact same.
20:28 jcamins      Odd.
20:28 rhcl1        who does the packages, ethian? Maybe he'll backread the chat and see this
20:28 jcamins      Can you manually run sudo apt-get install libhttp-oai-perl
20:30 wizzyrea     ^^ try that
20:32 rhcl2        here I am
20:32 rhcl2        sudo apt-get install libhttp-oai-perl
20:32 rhcl2        Package libhttp-oai-perl is not available, but is referred to by another package.
20:33 wizzyrea     something is wrong with your apt
20:33 rhcl2        This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source
20:33 rhcl2        wr: you mean the sources file?
20:33 wizzyrea     yea, probably there
20:34 wizzyrea     but possibly something else
20:35 jcamins      rhcl2: sounds like a problem with your apt.sources file.
20:38 jcamins      rhcl2: unfortunately, I'm not sure what the problem is.
20:41 wizzyrea     http://paste.koha-community.org/164
20:43 wizzyrea     maybe you don't have squeeze main in there?
20:43 wizzyrea     looks like you've only got updates?
20:43 jcamins      I think maybe the problem is you don't have contribs.
20:44 wizzyrea     he's only got updates, afaict
20:44 jcamins      wizzyrea: that sounds like a problem then.
20:44 wizzyrea     guess he went away
20:45 wizzyrea     contrast http://pastebin.com/avLUXsFu
20:45 wizzyrea     vs http://paste.koha-community.org/164
20:45 jcamins      Oooh. Now I see what you're talking about.
20:45 jcamins      Right.
20:46 wizzyrea     rhcl2 try using my sources.list
20:48 rhcl2        boys and girls, we're cookin' with gas now
20:48 jcamins      Hm. Uploading doesn't work quite right in old versions of Safari.
20:49 wizzyrea     YAY
20:51 * jcamins    opens up Photoshop 7.0, and feels nostalgic.
20:52 jcamins      It's been a *long* time since I used Photoshop 7.
20:52 jcamins      Back then, servers had slower CPUs than my phone.
20:53 wizzyrea     ^^
20:53 wizzyrea     in some cases that's still true
20:54 wizzyrea     people are trying to install koha on machines that have less horsepower than your phone - think about that.
20:55 jcamins      wizzyrea: that's why we use Perl. It's the closest to APL of any server-side scripting language.
21:00 rhcl1        http://imagebin.org/190082
21:01 rhcl1        http://imagebin.org/190084
21:01 wizzyrea     yay :)
21:01 rhcl1        http://imagebin.org/190085
21:02 rhcl1        http://imagebin.org/190086
21:15 rhcl2        what should be in this file: /etc/koha/koha-httpd.conf
21:16 rhcl2        is that manually generated?
21:17 jcamins      rhcl2: it should be created by koha-create.
21:17 cait         merry christmas all :)
21:17 cait         and wizzyrea: thx for the presents :)
21:18 jcamins      Merry Christmas.
21:18 wizzyrea     you're welcome
21:44 rhcl2        trying to start up koha, but all I get is the maintenance page. whycome?
22:02 maximep      happy holidays everyone!
22:02 maximep      cya next year