Time  Nick           Message
23:55 jenkins_koha   * chris.nighswonger: Updating Version Number to 3.06.02.000
23:55 jenkins_koha   * chris.nighswonger: Release Notes for 3.06.02.000 22 Dec 2011 22:53:23 Z
23:55 jenkins_koha   * f.demians: 3.6.2 Translation Update
23:55 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_3.6.x build #26: SUCCESS in 42 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.6.x/26/
23:27 * chris_n      heads out for a week or so
23:26 chris_n        and Happy New Year
23:13 jenkins_koha   Starting build #26 for job Koha_3.6.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
23:11 chris_n        Merry Christmas #koha
22:58 mib_7f62rm     :p
22:58 mib_7f62rm     Or not
22:58 mib_7f62rm     Thanks
22:58 mib_7f62rm     So what do i do with those paths?
22:58 wizzyrea       gl though
22:57 mib_7f62rm     ok
22:57 * wizzyrea     has to go anyway
22:57 mib_7f62rm     Thanks for your help
22:57 wizzyrea       ln -s /etc/koha/koha-httpd.conf /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/koha
22:57 mib_7f62rm     I'm going to go
22:57 mib_7f62rm     see if anyone talked about it
22:57 mib_7f62rm     Or ill look at the log
22:57 mib_7f62rm     Hmm, i''' just come back tomorrow ....
22:55 mib_7f62rm     lol, How?
22:55 wizzyrea       by hand
22:55 wizzyrea       you could try making it
22:55 wizzyrea       hm that's a bit of a stumper - i'm not sure why the symlink never got made
22:55 mib_7f62rm     hmmm
22:55 mib_7f62rm     ok
22:54 wizzyrea       gotta fetch the kiddo
22:54 * wizzyrea     is going to have to do that soon too
22:54 * magnus_afk   wishes #koha a good time of the day
22:54 mib_7f62rm     Nope
22:54 wizzyrea       besides the ones you originally had issues with?
22:53 wizzyrea       did any of them fail?
22:53 mib_7f62rm     and then all the other packages i installed for koha
22:53 mib_7f62rm     and then all the pther packages
22:53 mib_7f62rm     and kohadev1 and kohadev2, thats it
22:53 mib_7f62rm     It says koha common was installed
22:53 wizzyrea       you can also tail /var/log/dpkg.log there might be stuff in there.
22:52 mib_7f62rm     i see it
22:52 mib_7f62rm     never mind
22:52 mib_7f62rm     oh
22:52 mib_7f62rm     i installed koha 30min ago
22:51 mib_7f62rm     The log ennded december 20th, its the 22nd ....
22:51 wizzyrea       i'm not really sure - you can always search for koha
22:51 mib_7f62rm     Will it say :error: or something that i can search for?
22:51 mib_7f62rm     ok
22:50 wizzyrea       ok, you're looking for errors related to koha
22:50 mib_7f62rm     It tells me alot ....
22:49 mib_7f62rm     ill look
22:49 wizzyrea       what does tail /var/log/apt/history.log tell you
22:49 mib_7f62rm     so you have no idea then
22:48 mib_7f62rm     :o
22:48 mib_7f62rm     But it didn't
22:48 wizzyrea       this is my concern - why didnt it happen....
22:48 mib_7f62rm     oh
22:48 wizzyrea       which puts it in sites-enabled
22:48 wizzyrea       and the installer *usually* goes ahead and a2ensite koha for you
22:48 mib_7f62rm     thats not there
22:47 mib_7f62rm     oh
22:47 wizzyrea       is there is a symlink in sites-available that points to /etc/koha/koha-httpd.conf
22:47 wizzyrea       what usually happens
22:47 mib_7f62rm     koha-conf.site.xml
22:47 wizzyrea       yea, naw
22:47 mib_7f62rm     there is an apache-site.conf.in
22:46 wizzyrea       then again I have a working one on ubuntu, and I don't have that so that may not be it
22:46 mib_7f62rm     nope
22:45 wizzyrea       in /etc/koha
22:44 wizzyrea       do you have a koha-sites.conf?
22:44 mib_7f62rm     k
22:44 wizzyrea       nah
22:44 mib_7f62rm     lots of folders and files, you want a list?
22:44 wizzyrea       what's in there
22:44 mib_7f62rm     Yes
22:44 mib_7f62rm     i'll look
22:44 mib_7f62rm     umm
22:43 wizzyrea       do you have anything in  /etc/koha
22:43 mib_7f62rm     Or, i'll be back in 5, give you time to think :)
22:43 maximep        good luck =)
22:43 mib_7f62rm     very :p
22:43 wizzyrea       ;)
22:43 wizzyrea       are you impatient?
22:42 mib_7f62rm     Are you there?
22:42 mib_7f62rm     Name - Koha-Common    Version - 3.7   Description -- Blah blah blaa ;)
22:41 mib_7f62rm     it says,
22:40 mib_7f62rm     It shows installed, as far as i can see
22:40 mib_7f62rm     Yes
22:40 mib_7f62rm     ok
22:40 wizzyrea       lower case L
22:39 mib_7f62rm     ah, l
22:39 mib_7f62rm     is that  a 'l' or 'i' ?
22:39 mib_7f62rm     just a sec
22:39 wizzyrea       does it show it as installed?
22:39 mib_7f62rm     ok
22:39 wizzyrea       try a dpkg -l koha-common
22:38 mib_7f62rm     Should i do that again?
22:38 mib_7f62rm     not that i see
22:37 mib_7f62rm     nope
22:37 wizzyrea       and it did not error?
22:37 mib_7f62rm     it took 10min to do that
22:37 mib_7f62rm     Yes
22:37 wizzyrea       and you did sudo apt-get install koha-common
22:37 mib_7f62rm     Not good?
22:37 mib_7f62rm     :/
22:37 mib_7f62rm     Nope
22:36 wizzyrea       is there a koha in there?
22:36 mib_7f62rm     ok
22:36 wizzyrea       then go to /etc/apache2/sites-available
22:36 mib_7f62rm     No koha, there is nothing
22:36 wizzyrea       ok
22:36 mib_7f62rm     Nope
22:35 wizzyrea       you should see a koha in there
22:35 mib_7f62rm     Ok
22:35 wizzyrea       so, go into /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/
22:35 mib_7f62rm     Would that help ^^^
22:35 mib_7f62rm     Oh
22:35 mib_7f62rm     Did you want A wireless desktop connection?
22:35 wizzyrea       ok that's actually good.
22:35 mib_7f62rm     Well, i dont have a webpage set up, it just says 404 now instead of the default Apache page, nope, there is still listen 80 and 8080 there
22:34 wizzyrea       did you get rid of listen 80?
22:34 mib_7f62rm     Or, maybe
22:33 mib_7f62rm     It says 404 when i go to my domain now
22:33 mib_7f62rm     It says 404 when i go to my domain noe
22:33 mib_7f62rm     Yes
22:33 wizzyrea       adding listen 8080 404'd your homepage?
22:32 mib_7f62rm     But it 404'd my homepage
22:32 wizzyrea       so that's progress.
22:32 mib_7f62rm     Yes
22:32 wizzyrea       it's at least answering now
22:32 wizzyrea       that means it's listening
22:32 wizzyrea       but
22:32 mib_7f62rm     says the url is not found at port 8080, it is also a 404 on the main page :/
22:32 wizzyrea       any luck now?
22:31 wizzyrea       sudo apache2ctl restart
22:31 mib_7f62rm     haha, oops
22:31 wizzyrea       sudo, prolly
22:31 mib_7f62rm     oh
22:31 wizzyrea       apache2ctl restart
22:31 mib_7f62rm     What is the line to restart it again, i forgot :/
22:30 wizzyrea       to restart apache
22:30 wizzyrea       apache2ctl restart
22:30 wizzyrea       after you add the listening ports
22:29 mib_7f62rm     ok
22:29 wizzyrea       but, try the other first
22:29 wizzyrea       NameVirtualHost *:80
22:29 wizzyrea       named virtual hosts.), comment out the following line:
22:29 wizzyrea       If not running named virtual hosts (The default koha installation does not use
22:29 mib_7f62rm     ok
22:29 wizzyrea       there
22:29 wizzyrea       Listen 8080
22:29 wizzyrea       Listen 80
22:29 wizzyrea       Add the following lines to /etc/apache2/ports.conf:
22:28 wizzyrea       urg
22:28 wizzyrea       185     Listen 8080
22:28 wizzyrea       184     Listen 80
22:28 wizzyrea       183
22:28 wizzyrea       Add the following lines to /etc/apache2/ports.conf:
22:28 mib_7f62rm     hows do i do that?
22:28 mib_7f62rm     ummm, probs not, 'cause i dont know how ;)
22:27 wizzyrea       ok, did you tell apache to listen on port 8080?
22:27 mib_7f62rm     Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at www.XXX:8080.
22:27 mib_7f62rm     It works, but if i goto port 8080 it says
22:27 mib_7f62rm     I just tried to go to my domain on my laptop
22:26 mib_7f62rm     FYI
22:26 mib_7f62rm     Anyway
22:26 mib_7f62rm     i think, well, i should
22:26 mib_7f62rm     i have that
22:26 wizzyrea       well firefox is at least version 8 now
22:26 mib_7f62rm     What else can i try?
22:26 mib_7f62rm     Oh
22:25 wizzyrea       that error you posted really looks like a problem with firefox to me
22:24 mib_7f62rm     I am on here from that machine :)
22:23 mib_7f62rm     Yes
22:23 wizzyrea       can you connect to other websites from this machine?
22:23 wizzyrea       I can't say I've seen that error before
22:23 mib_7f62rm     Hello?
22:22 mib_7f62rm     there is nothing in the folder /var/log/koha
22:21 wizzyrea       /var/log/koha/koha-error_log
22:20 mib_7f62rm     i'll look
22:20 mib_7f62rm     ok
22:19 maximep        /var/log/koha something
22:19 wahanui        that is a good goal
22:19 mib_7f62rm     Where is that?
22:19 maximep        asking if theres anything in the koha error log
22:19 mib_7f62rm     What were you saying?
22:19 mib_7f62rm     My VNC connection broke
22:19 mib_7f62rm     Sorry
22:17 maximep        anything in the koha error log ?
22:17 wizzyrea       that doesn't look like a koha error at all.
22:17 mib_upvxs5     pache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName [Thu Dec 22 14:13:45 2011] [warn] NameVirtualHost *:80 has no VirtualHosts
22:17 maximep        is there something wrong in the source ?
22:17 mib_upvxs5     The only error i can see is
22:17 mib_upvxs5     The only error i can see it
22:16 mib_upvxs5     There was no errors on install
22:16 mib_upvxs5     :(
22:16 wizzyrea       wow I cannot say I've seen that one before.
22:16 mib_upvxs5     XML Parsing Error: undefined entity Location: jar:file:///usr/lib/firefox-3.6.24/chrome/toolkit.jar!/content/global/netError.xhtml Line Number 60, Column 12:    <title>&loadError.label;</title> -----------^
22:15 wizzyrea       what is the error message?
22:15 mib_upvxs5     i fallowed the instructions on the new link and it works, but when i go to :8080 it errors
22:00 mib_upvxs5     Yes it is a "Clean system"
21:59 wizzyrea       (not that you'd want to take that option)
21:58 wizzyrea       is this a clean system, i.e. is it possible to reinstall and start over?
21:58 wizzyrea       but you still may run into the dependencies thing. But maybe not.
21:57 mib_upvxs5     OK, thanks :)
21:57 wizzyrea       ^^ this will be easier, not harder.
21:57 wizzyrea       thatsorry this one might be less dumb: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_Lucid_using_Koha_packages
21:56 wizzyrea       oh sec - there's another linkk
21:56 mib_upvxs5     it is not going to be installed E: Broken packages
21:56 mib_upvxs5     The following packages have unmet dependencies:   idzebra-2.0: Depends: idzebra-2.0-utils (= 2.0.50-1indexdata) but it is not going to be installed                Depends: libidzebra-2.0-modules but it is not going to be installed   yaz: Depends: libncurses5 (>= 5.7+20100313) but 5.7+20090803-2ubuntu3 is to be installed        Depends: libyaz4 (>= 4.2.22) but
21:55 mib_upvxs5     Umm, just a sec
21:55 mib_upvxs5     haha
21:55 wahanui        wizzyrea: I forgot error message
21:55 wizzyrea       forget the error message
21:55 wahanui        hmmm... the error message is correct because that's not how you're supposed to run it
21:55 wizzyrea       what is the error message?
21:54 mib_upvxs5     it says there is broken dependancies
21:54 mib_upvxs5     # sudo apt-get install zip unzip lamp-server^ yaz idzebra-2.0 dselect unp openjdk-6-jre
21:54 mib_upvxs5     i am fallowing that link you gave me and when i run
21:49 mib_upvxs5     Ok
21:49 wizzyrea       you probably need to follow the instructions at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_Ubuntu
21:49 mib_upvxs5     ok
21:49 cait           and for ubuntu it's possible :)
21:49 mib_upvxs5     I tried that and i couldnt get it to work
21:48 mib_upvxs5     I am trying to install koha
21:48 wizzyrea       ^^
21:48 cait           mib_upvxs5: you should use packages from your distribution whenever possible
21:48 wizzyrea       are you just trying to get a koha install?
21:48 mib_upvxs5     No
21:48 wizzyrea       have you consulted this?
21:48 wizzyrea       http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_Ubuntu
21:47 mib_upvxs5     sudo cpan PDF::API2::Simple
21:47 cait           what have you tried to do?
21:47 mib_upvxs5     an't locate inc/Module/Install.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.1 /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.10 /usr/share/perl/5.10 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at Makefile.PL line 1.
21:47 mib_upvxs5     the error is
21:47 mib_upvxs5     for this one, PDF::API2::Simple
21:47 mib_upvxs5     ubuntu 10.04
21:46 wahanui        which os are you using?
21:46 cait           and which os?
21:46 wizzyrea       error how?
21:46 mib_upvxs5     They all error on install
21:46 mib_upvxs5     That is it
21:46 mib_upvxs5     XML::LibXSLT
21:45 mib_upvxs5     PDF::API2::Simple
21:45 mib_upvxs5     Net::Z3950::ZOOM
21:45 wahanui        rumour has it Graphics::Magick is probably used for labels
21:45 mib_upvxs5     Graphics::Magick
21:45 mib_upvxs5     it is these files,
21:45 mib_upvxs5     ok
21:45 wizzyrea       pretty quiet around here, but you can go ahead and ask
21:44 mib_upvxs5     "modules"
21:44 mib_upvxs5     i need some help installing some packages
21:44 mib_upvxs5     Anybody here?
21:27 maximep        arg -_-
20:55 rhcl_ishere    OK, we finished the install of Ubuntu 11.1 on the computer, let me know when you want to talk about it
20:43 jcamins_away   rhcl_ishere: I'm only kind of here.
20:43 rhcl_ishere    ping jcamins_away
20:42 rhcl_ishere    \nick jcamins_comeback
20:21 cait           forward
20:21 cait           and let us live with it and move things
20:21 cait           make it go in
20:21 cait           holding up everything is the bad part
20:21 cait           yeah
20:15 jcamins_away   So, there you have it. I think it would be better, but my idealism is not strong enough to override my pragmatism. ;)
20:15 jcamins_away   Do I think it would be an improvement? Yes. Do I think it would as much of an improvement as not talking about it and holding up enhancements would be? No.
20:15 jcamins_away   I would just like decisions to be made.
20:13 wizzyrea       oh I see.
20:12 jcamins_away   No, I genuinely increasingly don't care whether the decisions I think are better are made or not.
20:12 wizzyrea       or genuine?
20:12 wizzyrea       pre holiday and vacation angst?
20:11 wizzyrea       wow
20:11 * jcamins_away is sure the new system is better, but increasingly doesn't care. ;)
20:11 cait           nah, more sure it will only complicate things
20:11 cait           and I am still not sure it's an improvement
20:10 cait           the new system is not in yet
20:10 cait           it still is
20:09 * wizzyrea     suspects not
20:08 wizzyrea       http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Sign_off_on_a_pushed_branch
20:08 wizzyrea       is this up to date re: database updates?
20:08 wizzyrea       well with is what I think I meant
20:03 * jcamins_away was going for "with," but he'll take it. ;)
20:02 * wizzyrea     laughs at jcamins
20:02 * jcamins_away thinks he's chosen the wrong channel for misquoting musical theatre.
20:01 jcamins_away   I would think.
20:01 ibeardslee     true, but asking for help installing is surely a dev server rather than a prod server?
20:01 jcamins_away   It's like that Andrew Lloyd Weber song, "MARC changes everything."
20:00 jcamins_away   ibeardslee: time seems to stretch on forever when your production server is lying in a smoldering heap on the floor.
19:59 ibeardslee     3 minutes?
19:59 jcamins_away   ... nice chat. Any time.
19:58 jcamins_away   small: what's the problem you're facing?
19:57 small          Ok there wahanui
19:57 wahanui        it has been said that no is failing unit tests
19:57 small          no...?
19:57 small          Anybody
19:56 small          I need help installing koha 3.6
19:56 small          I need help installing koha 3.3
19:56 small          SomeBody Help me?
19:47 jcamins_away   trea: that'd be pretty easy, if you had the jQuery handy.
19:47 trea           and i'm plenty busy, thx
19:47 trea           i mean he's still tagged
19:47 jcamins_away   Since sekjal's on vacation, looks like he's still tagged, then. ;)
19:47 jcamins_away   trea: you mean you won't be delegated to?
19:46 trea           good luck to you on that
19:46 jcamins_away   trea: unless you have the lexile jQuery from Goodwill AZ, in which case I hereby delegate that to you. :)
19:43 huginn         jcamins_away: The operation succeeded.
19:43 jcamins_away   @later tell sekjal When you get a chance could respond to Bug 7377 with the jQuery from GoodwillAZ? Thanks.
19:29 wahanui        i already had it that way, huginn.
19:29 huginn         rangi: Quote #166: "jcamins: this is IRC. There's a several decade long tradition of lurking." (added by wizzyrea at 03:06 PM, November 17, 2011)
19:29 rangi          @quote random
19:21 maximep        i think u do zebra-authorities-dom.cfg -d authorities
19:18 mgr86          thanks, when doing the same for authorities do I need to issues drop authorities or still drop biblios?
19:16 jcamins_away   I believe.
19:15 jcamins_away   In which case it would be at /etc/koha/sites/[instance]/zebradb/zebra-biblios.cfg
19:15 rangi          if you are using the debian packages, theres one for each koha instance
19:14 jcamins_away   If dev install, ~/koha-dev/etc/zebradb/zebra-biblios.cfg
19:14 jcamins_away   mgr86: if you mean "where," if you have a standard install it's probably at /etc/koha/zebradb/zebra-biblios.cfg
19:13 mgr86          why is zebra-biblios.cfg commonly located?
19:13 jcamins_away   rangi: didn't I see a sign off on bug 6627 yesterday?
19:12 rangi          could do with a sign off
19:12 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6627 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , [security] insecure file creation
19:12 rangi          and bug 6627
19:12 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7339 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , Help System in IE8-9 Does Not Load With 500 Error
19:12 rangi          bug 7339
19:12 rangi          yo people
18:57 maximep        and same for authorities
18:56 maximep        or u can probably run "zebraidx -c /path/to/zebra-biblios.cfg drop biblios"
18:46 jwagner        mgr86, if you've truncated biblio, biblioitems, and items tables, you should just be able to run a zebra reindex which will clear the indexes.
18:45 mgr86          so, I am not sure what command to call
18:45 mgr86          it reads "... To clear the indexes issue:  at your shell prompt."
18:45 mgr86          however, the documentation is incomplete
18:45 mgr86          which is exactly what I was trying to do when I found the documentation
18:44 mgr86          it instructed me to truncate biblio table, which I had already done before finding the doucmentation, but it also instructed to me clear the indexes
18:44 mgr86          essetnailly the question was "Question: I added some books for testing, now I’m done testing but I want to delete all of my test items and bibs and start fresh. How do I do it?"
18:43 mgr86          http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/installingupgrading/#26
18:43 mgr86          but it was missing one important part
18:43 mgr86          hello koha community, I had a support question. I found the answer in the doucmentation FAQ
18:32 cait           morning rangi :)
18:26 rangi          Morning
18:16 cait           hm
18:10 cait           back :)
17:32 kf             bbiab
17:32 kf             have to go :)
17:28 wizzyrea       yea
17:28 kf             christmas vacation?
17:27 kf             oh
17:27 wizzyrea       I could go for a dose of his biting wit about now
17:26 * wizzyrea     does
17:26 wizzyrea       anybody else really miss oleonard?
17:26 libsysguy      later #koha
17:25 * wizzyrea     cracks the whip
17:25 wizzyrea       alright back to work lol
17:24 kf             I like that one
17:24 kf             oh
17:24 wizzyrea       hehehehe
17:24 huginn         wizzyrea: Quote #10: "< pianohacker> You helped start an open source project; clearly your sense of what to avoid to make your life easier has been impaired for a while :)" (added by chris at 07:59 PM, June 23, 2009)
17:24 wizzyrea       @quote get 10
17:24 kf             yep :)
17:24 wizzyrea       hey, that's pretty great.
17:24 kf             and they did the most checkouts of all
17:24 kf             although I had 2 tickets this year from the library we migrated from horizon
17:24 huginn         kf: downloading the Perl source
17:24 kf             @qoute get 9
17:24 huginn         wizzyrea: Quote #9: "pianohacker ponders drumstick->ear as a method of food acquisition...We haven't gone to this good mexican restaurant in a while..." (added by wizzyrea at 08:23 PM, June 19, 2009)
17:24 wizzyrea       @quote get 9
17:24 kf             yes
17:23 wizzyrea       still true
17:23 kf             let's do the top ten and get back to work :P
17:23 huginn         kf: Quote #8: "< wizzyrea> in my experience the transition to koha is much harder for libraries that are already automated" (added by pianohacker at 05:57 PM, June 19, 2009)
17:23 kf             @quote get 8
17:23 wizzyrea       hehe
17:23 huginn         kf: Quote #7: "Snow_Fox: a rift opens in space the information is shuffled to dev_hyperspace rift then closes" (added by wizzyrea at 03:28 PM, June 18, 2009)
17:23 huginn         wizzyrea: Quote #7: "Snow_Fox: a rift opens in space the information is shuffled to dev_hyperspace rift then closes" (added by wizzyrea at 03:28 PM, June 18, 2009)
17:23 kf             @quote get 7
17:23 wizzyrea       @quote get 7
17:23 wahanui        i already had it that way, huginn.
17:23 huginn         wizzyrea: Quote #5: "<jwagner> Why is it every Koha rock I turn over produces a zillion (metaphorical) ants, each with a new question????" (added by kf at 01:13 PM, June 12, 2009)
17:23 wizzyrea       @quote get 5
17:23 wizzyrea       ^^ lol
17:23 huginn         wizzyrea: Quote #4: "< kf> I often get asked: You have to study to be a librarian? perhaps MARC was invented to answer it ;)" (added by chris at 12:50 PM, June 12, 2009)
17:22 wizzyrea       @quote get 4
17:22 huginn         wizzyrea: Quote #3: "< bignose-work> the only constant in climate over the next several decades will be that the climate doesn't match what you just got used to." (added by chris at 01:55 AM, June 12, 2009)
17:22 wizzyrea       @quote get 3
17:22 huginn         kf: Quote #2: "<jwagner> Hope springs eternal in little kitty hearts. Better watch the doors :-)" (added by gmcharlt at 04:04 PM, June 03, 2009)
17:22 kf             @quote get 2
17:22 huginn         kf: Quote #1: "<pianohacker> resolve, rather, I doubt it needs lotion" (added by gmcharlt at 03:05 AM, May 31, 2009)
17:22 kf             @quote get 1
17:22 huginn         kf: (quote get [<channel>] <id>) -- Gets the quote with id <id> from the quote database for <channel>. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself.
17:22 kf             @quote get
17:22 wizzyrea       so, basically when huginn/munin was born
17:22 wizzyrea       quote 6
17:22 wizzyrea       *nod*
17:21 kf             2009...have been around for some time now :)
17:21 huginn         wizzyrea: Quote #164: "<sekjal> word of advice to folks: take an aspirin before reading C4/Overdues.pm" (added by wizzyrea at 09:08 PM, November 14, 2011)
17:21 wizzyrea       @quote get 164
17:21 wizzyrea       ^^ this
17:21 huginn         kf: Quote #6: "gmcharlt: kf: hold requests are a plot to sell more aspirin ;)" (added by wizzyrea at 04:13 PM, June 16, 2009)
17:21 kf             @quote get 6
17:21 huginn         kf: 2 found: #164: "<sekjal> word of advice to folks: take an..." and #6: "gmcharlt: kf: hold requests are a plot to sell..."
17:21 kf             @quote search aspirin
17:20 libsysguy      so nengard we are just testing to make sure it works right…no scope creep
17:18 * jcamins      heads out to do fun things like buy photography equipment.
17:18 libsysguy      ok cool
17:17 nengard        nope, i've seen that
17:17 libsysguy      just making sure you don't need my git branch :)
17:17 nengard        but yes the goal is to get it tested before the first
17:17 libsysguy      ohh
17:16 nengard        libsysguy he set up a test server for me to play on
17:16 libsysguy      nengard what url do you need?
17:14 wizzyrea       (still in progress)
17:14 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5786 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, srdjan, ASSIGNED , Move AllowOnShelfHolds system preference to the Circulation Matrix
17:14 wizzyrea       here's our test plan for bug 5786: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XJSWZRf2tJhb7713iU1o0eBdtRhWaA5On5C3qGmf-to/edit
17:14 wahanui        which url are you adding them from?
17:14 libsysguy      which url?
17:14 nengard        once he wakes up and gives me the url
17:14 nengard        libsysguy i'm testing it today
17:12 libsysguy      hmm I wonder if bg is going to get hourly merged into master by the first :p
17:12 libsysguy      yeah I'm definitely not doing that
17:12 jcamins        Don't merge master into your production system again until you're back from vacation.
17:11 libsysguy      after a segfault in IIS
17:11 libsysguy      hehe
17:11 libsysguy      yes i did
17:11 jcamins        I recommend you ask the stylist to take longer. ;)
17:11 libsysguy      you're literally the best
17:11 jcamins        libsysguy: so you get to set up IIS?
17:11 libsysguy      thanks for your help guys
17:11 libsysguy      i better pack up shop
17:10 libsysguy      oh oh it looks like the haircut is almost done
17:09 jcamins        And probably some sort of light.
17:09 jcamins        libsysguy: buying an articulated arm so that I can take perfect pictures of books. :)
17:08 libsysguy      what are you doing today jcamins
17:08 * jcamins      is quite looking forward to that.
17:07 * jcamins      gets to indulge his inner photography geek today.
17:07 kf             both true
17:07 jcamins        Also true.
17:07 huginn         jcamins: Quote #121: "mtj> friends don't let librarians spec bib formats" (added by chris at 08:18 PM, March 24, 2011)
17:07 jcamins        @quote get 121
17:07 libsysguy      is there a free software that works like illiad
17:07 huginn         jcamins: Quote #115: "chris: friends don't let friends use proprietary software." (added by chris_n at 05:36 PM, January 19, 2011)
17:07 jcamins        @quote get 115
17:07 huginn         jcamins: 2 found: #115: "chris: friends don't let friends use..." and #121: "mtj> friends don't let librarians spec bib formats"
17:07 jcamins        @quote search friends
17:06 jcamins        There is indeed.
17:06 kf             isn't there a quote from rangi about fridnds not letting friends use proprietary software? ;)
17:06 libsysguy      hahahaha
17:06 jcamins        libsysguy: I think I'd rather *watch* my wife get her hair cut.
17:06 libsysguy      IIS is the worst kind of devil
17:06 libsysguy      and the kind of crazy i am is called work-a-holic
17:06 kf             some devils are worse than others...
17:06 wizzyrea       fyl indeed.
17:06 libsysguy      fml
17:06 libsysguy      and it only runs on IIS
17:06 wizzyrea       you are a special kind of crazy.
17:05 libsysguy      from OCLC hosting to our own server
17:05 libsysguy      I'm actually migrating Illiad
17:05 libsysguy      this was just a fire
17:05 libsysguy      haha oh im far from done
17:05 wizzyrea       go have fun with blondie ;)
17:05 jcamins        wizzyrea: yeah, and its own quirks, too. :P
17:05 jcamins        And this, folks, is why friends don't let friends work over their holidays.
17:05 wizzyrea       just sayin we hate zebra, but solr will have it's own beautiful quirks.
17:04 libsysguy      hahaha
17:04 * wizzyrea     is reminded of the devil we know vs the devil we don't
17:04 libsysguy      so when are we moving to solr
17:04 libsysguy      silly zebra
17:03 jcamins        I guess Zebra always parses the conversion stylesheets, even when it's not using them.
17:03 libsysguy      was one
17:03 libsysguy      home/koha/kohaclone/koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/xslt/MARC21slim2RDFDC.xsl
17:03 jcamins        Okay, that makes sense then.
17:03 libsysguy      yeah I think so
17:02 jcamins        Oh, I bet it was the Zebra stylesheets?
17:02 libsysguy      i was literally like wtf is happening
17:02 libsysguy      yayy indeed
17:02 jcamins        Yay!
17:02 libsysguy      its working now
17:02 libsysguy      yup that was it
17:01 libsysguy      yeah there is the dreaded line <<<<<<<origin
17:01 jcamins        An XSLT issue? Weird.
17:01 libsysguy      it is blowing up the zebra logs
17:00 jcamins        Don't see why that would have any impact.
17:00 gaetan_B       bye
17:00 libsysguy      yeah in some xslt style sheets
16:59 jcamins        A merge conflict?
16:58 libsysguy      fml
16:58 libsysguy      in the log it looks like there might be a merge conflict
16:58 libsysguy      wait
16:57 libsysguy      but in the error log it is trying to restart every 30 seconds
16:57 libsysguy      i haven't looked at the log yet
16:57 libsysguy      koha-zebradaemon.err
16:57 jcamins        Which file's that in? There are a couple.
16:56 jcamins        Hm.
16:56 libsysguy      in the tail
16:56 libsysguy      lots of this 20111222 10:55:56 koha-zebra-ctl.koha: client (pid 2973) exited with 1 status
16:56 jcamins        ~/koha-dev/var/logs/koha-zebradaemon*
16:55 wizzyrea       that is, anything in them?
16:55 wizzyrea       logs>
16:55 libsysguy      because after I start it and re-run the grep i still only get the grep proces
16:55 libsysguy      there must be an error
16:54 libsysguy      man do I feel retarded
16:54 jcamins        Run: sudo /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon start
16:54 libsysguy      so the zebra daemon doesn't start zebra
16:54 jcamins        Didn't think to specify which task we were looking for.
16:53 * jcamins      is lazy and always just types zeb
16:53 libsysguy      0_0
16:53 jcamins        Okay, Zebra's not running.
16:53 libsysguy      just the grep
16:53 jcamins        Any results?
16:53 jcamins        ps ax | grep zebrasrv
16:53 libsysguy      stepping back
16:53 libsysguy      ok
16:53 jcamins        Wait. Let's go back a moment.
16:52 jcamins        No, zebrasrv.
16:52 jcamins        But I suspect a full reindex is in order.
16:52 libsysguy      from misc right
16:52 jcamins        Might not be a bad idea.
16:52 libsysguy      true
16:52 jcamins        Well, you could run the server on the command line, see if you're getting any errors.
16:52 libsysguy      i feel a full reindex coming on...
16:52 libsysguy      hmm
16:51 libsysguy      nope
16:51 jcamins        Nothing showing up in the staff client either?
16:51 libsysguy      hmm
16:51 jcamins        Probably, yes.
16:50 libsysguy      if it was suppression it would show up in staff right?
16:50 jcamins        Ah.
16:49 libsysguy      with hourly
16:49 libsysguy      haha well I kept getting complaints that it was 30 mins off
16:49 kf             jcamins: I didn't dare to ask
16:49 jcamins        Why did you restart the server during a vacation?
16:49 jcamins        Of course.
16:48 libsysguy      of course it breaks
16:48 libsysguy      im actually on vacation this week
16:48 libsysguy      yeah let me double check that margo hasn't been messing with the suppression
16:48 jcamins        That doesn't seem quite right, though. Why is *nothing* showing up?
16:47 wahanui        well, searching faq is at http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/searching/
16:47 jcamins        searching faq?
16:47 jcamins        Maybe.
16:46 libsysguy      corrupt indexes?
16:46 libsysguy      hmm still no results
16:46 kf             heh
16:46 libsysguy      like a good bf
16:46 libsysguy      wizzyrea ill have to watch that later…im waiting for Anna at the hair salon
16:45 libsysguy      gracias kind sir
16:45 libsysguy      no that was it
16:45 wizzyrea       when you get it fixed: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-0WVfj76bo
16:45 jcamins        You may have called the init script something different.
16:45 jcamins        sudo /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon restart
16:44 libsysguy      i just restarted it to correct a time diff on the VM and now searching is hosed :'(
16:44 jcamins        Try restarting the zebra daemon?
16:44 libsysguy      i really didn't do anything this time
16:44 libsysguy      why oh why is is always prod
16:44 libsysguy      ugh yes
16:44 jcamins        libsysguy: please tell me this isn't your production system?
16:44 libsysguy      after a server restart**
16:43 libsysguy      and it looks like the daemon is running
16:43 libsysguy      ok so I'm getting no search results after a restart
16:43 wizzyrea       hehe
16:43 libsysguy      thanks jcamins
16:43 wahanui        I LIKE SCIENCE!
16:43 libsysguy      hey wizzyrea
16:43 wizzyrea       oh hey libsysguy :)
16:43 jcamins        ps ax | grep zeb
16:42 libsysguy      hey can anybody tell me how to see if zebra search server is running
16:21 kf             item level itype / bibl level itypes - both have to be tested
16:21 kf             yep
16:20 hdl1           old koha adopters and new ones.
16:20 wizzyrea       give me a minute :)
16:20 hdl1           for what it's worth, similar things have been working on multiple libraries in france for more than 1 year now.
16:19 wizzyrea       that since the rules are per itemtype/category code
16:19 wizzyrea       at least, I'm assuming
16:19 wizzyrea       but you'd have to test it both ways
16:19 wizzyrea       it's item level itemtype
16:19 wizzyrea       it's not bib leve itype
16:19 wizzyrea       right, we'd test that
16:19 kf             and what do we want to happen
16:18 kf             for example
16:18 kf             what happens with records with items with more than one item type and different settings?
16:18 hdl1           needs two patches.
16:18 kf             but
16:18 kf             yeah
16:18 kf             hdl1: thx - it's on my list!
16:18 wizzyrea       so- create an itemtype, put some items on it
16:18 * kf           so wishes the rain would stop
16:18 wizzyrea       gotya
16:18 kf             so talking with someone will help :)
16:18 kf             but I am kinda blocked on it
16:18 kf             no, not with a plan :)
16:17 wizzyrea       it looks like it wouldn't be so hard to test.
16:17 wizzyrea       that particular one
16:17 wizzyrea       well
16:17 kf             available for onshelfholds... but you know...
16:17 wizzyrea       *nod*
16:17 kf             only make things available for hold there and not in general...
16:17 kf             it would be such a great additon for our library with closed stacks
16:16 wizzyrea       hmm
16:16 kf             I want that, but not sure where to start testing
16:16 kf             ooh?
16:16 wizzyrea       ohhhh
16:16 jcamins        kf: Yay!
16:16 hdl1           kf: folowup sent.
16:15 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5786 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, srdjan, ASSIGNED , Move AllowOnShelfHolds system preference to the Circulation Matrix
16:15 kf             bug 5786
16:15 wizzyrea       :) sure
16:15 kf             etherpad? :)
16:15 wizzyrea       which bug?
16:15 kf             perhaps we could do a test plan together liz?
16:15 kf             but a bit scared to start testing
16:15 kf             I really want the new parameters in circ matrix
16:14 wizzyrea       nod
16:14 kf             *sighs*
16:14 kf             like lots of things
16:14 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4530 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, srdjan, ASSIGNED , Circulation & fines rules aren't always applied from most specific to less specific
16:14 wizzyrea       bug 4530
16:14 wizzyrea       man, 4530 is going to need epic testing
16:14 * kf           rips apart her calendar of 2011
16:13 jcamins        -N
16:13 wizzyrea       you could do that
16:13 wizzyrea       yes
16:13 wizzyrea       keke
16:12 jcamins        Actually, I guess I could just tell mysql to not output the header.
16:12 wizzyrea       fair enough smarty
16:12 wizzyrea       keke
16:12 jcamins        wizzyrea: nope. Do you see any first-line-chomping happening there?
16:11 wizzyrea       aren't you fancy ;)
16:11 jcamins        If you're feeling really fancy, chomp the first line.
16:11 jcamins        wizzyrea: echo "SELECT marc FROM biblioitems;" | mysql -u koha -p koha | gzip -9 > ~/biblios.mrc.gz
16:11 wizzyrea       you should make up the canonical way
16:10 jcamins        kf: I was just checking that there wasn't a canonical way to do it.
16:10 jcamins        kf: oh, it's easy enough to do.
16:10 kf             but couldn't you get the xml from zebra perhaps?
16:09 kf             I don't think there is a script right now
16:09 kf             hm
15:51 jcamins        All the bibliographic records, I mean.
15:51 jcamins        Well, you can export everything using the UI.
15:51 jcamins        There aren't any scripts for exporting all the authority or bibliographic records, are there?
15:31 * kf           is curious to no end
15:30 wizzyrea       but I'm reeeally close
15:30 * wizzyrea     still has one more day to get the presents together
15:30 wizzyrea       ;)
15:29 wizzyrea       oh right, is it party day in kiribati yet?
15:29 * kf           puts christmas cookies (weihnachtskekse) in the middle of #koha
15:28 wizzyrea       hi kf :)
15:28 gmcharlt       hi kf
15:28 kf             hi gmcharlt and wizzyrea :)
15:27 wizzyrea       huh. the cron wikipedia page is surprisingly helpful. :P
15:25 wahanui        gmcharlt: I forgot nope
15:25 gmcharlt       forget nope
15:24 wahanui        nope is yep
15:24 gmcharlt       nope?
15:24 gmcharlt       nope is yep
15:14 wahanui        wizzyrea: I forgot yep
15:14 wizzyrea       forget yep
14:48 maximep        2 days of work left :D
14:48 maximep        hello
14:47 kf             hi maximep :)
14:39 marcelr        i installed a unimarc koha and loc seems to work..
14:39 hdl1           will try
14:39 hdl1           k
14:39 marcelr        you should apply it on top
14:39 marcelr        it is on bugzilla
14:38 marcelr        there was no apply-templates in the unimarxc xslt
14:38 marcelr        hdl1: i sent a fixc
14:38 wahanui        well, yep is the first bug in face in koha
14:38 hdl1           marcelr: yep ?
14:38 marcelr        simple problem in the xslt that i copied from biblibre once
14:38 marcelr        i hope he runs this fix
14:37 kf             for the quick fix
14:37 kf             no you missed me giving you karma again :)
14:37 wahanui        it has been said that there is no spoon.
14:37 marcelr        hdl1: still there?
14:37 kf             marcelr++ :)
14:31 kf             hdl1: could you ask joubu to take another look at late order management? I feel we are almost there it's only an encoding problem in the mail now that has to be fixed.
14:26 kf             yes I got it
14:23 hdl1           kf: sent the patch. I hope you can see.
14:23 kf             the branch transfer limits but I can test the interface
14:23 kf             hdl1: sorry, we are not really using it yet
14:21 kf             back :)
14:10 hdl1           k
14:04 hdl1           is there anyone using branch transfer limits around ?
14:01 jcamins        You're welcome.
13:53 ago43          thanks!
13:51 jcamins        Optionally --full
13:51 jcamins        ago43: koha-rebuild-zebra instance or something like that.
13:25 collum         Good morning
13:25 marcelr        hdl1: received
13:25 hdl1           Hi collum
13:25 hdl1           marcelr: done, you should have the xml in your box.
13:21 marcelr        i will have a look
13:20 hdl1           But could break the SRU, I don't know.
13:20 hdl1           using as_xml_record would do the job.
13:20 marcelr        please do
13:20 hdl1           I can send you the xml he got from LOC and you could test the xsl.
13:19 marcelr        will try now too
13:19 hdl1           here you are.
13:19 hdl1           http://irspy.indexdata.com/full.html?id=Z39.50%3Az3950.loc.gov%3A7090%2Fvoyager
13:18 hdl1           when getting the z3950 record as_xml, the xml contains <collection></collection> as root. But it prevents the xslt MARC21toUNIMARC.xsl to do its work.
13:18 marcelr        hdl1: could you send me his parameters for the server?
13:18 ago43          hi, does anyone know the proper command for rebuild_zebra.pl in a package install?
13:17 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6536 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, m.de.rooy, ASSIGNED , Z3950 Enhancements: SRU targets, MARC conversion, additional XSLT processing
13:17 hdl1           marcelr: kf_mtg Joubu tried hard to sign off on bug 6536, but he faces a problem using the nypl z3950 server and even the LOC z3950 server.
13:16 hdl1           And sending the latter.
13:16 hdl1           I did the latter.
13:15 hdl1           smarter but depends on 6636 datatables : change tablesorter to datatables in that page.
13:15 hdl1           But removes also the pagination... With big libraries, it is quite embarassing.
13:14 hdl1           oneliner patch.
13:14 hdl1           Simple but not so nice : simply remove table-sorter.inc
13:13 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6842 major, P1 - high, ---, oleonard, NEW , Branch transfer limits broken
13:13 hdl1           bug 6842 sorry
13:12 hdl1           oups
13:12 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6348 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , can still place holds for expired patrons
13:12 hdl1           kf: about bug 6348, there is more than one way to do it.
12:39 francharb      ;)
12:39 francharb      merry christmas
12:38 francharb      ;)
12:38 francharb      my2cts
12:38 francharb      but it doesnt within the catalogue framework...
12:38 francharb      and this biblioitems.bnotes doest exist in the koha to marc mapping
12:38 francharb      to make the difference between biblio.notes and biblioitems.notes, koha add a "b" at notes for biblioitems.notes. it's hardcodded
12:34 francharb      apparently
12:34 francharb      but not this one
12:34 francharb      it will work
12:34 francharb      for evey field
12:34 hdl1           k
12:34 hdl1           k
12:34 hdl1           k
12:34 francharb      nope
12:34 hdl1           otherwise, you feel like it doesnot work.
12:34 francharb      you have to map this field with biblioitems.bnotes and bnotes doesn't exist
12:33 hdl1           then re map that.
12:33 hdl1           save
12:33 hdl1           blank
12:33 hdl1           delete first and make it bla,k
12:33 francharb      BUT
12:33 francharb      hdl1, i know
12:33 francharb      for this one only, you have to go through everyframework
12:33 hdl1           You should
12:33 hdl1           francharb: KohaToMarc mapping to remap a field :
12:32 francharb      thats what we did
12:32 kf             30 min
12:32 kf             sorry meeting :)
12:32 francharb      it doest work this way
12:32 francharb      kf, thats the thing
12:32 kf             should change all at once - but merry christmas :)
12:32 kf             francharb: instead of going through all frameworks - try administration koha-to-marc-mapping :)
12:30 francharb      thanks julian_m for finding that by the way!
12:29 francharb      :)
12:29 francharb      i need a drink now
12:29 francharb      ;)
12:29 francharb      but makes everything better
12:29 francharb      the one you didn't expect
12:29 francharb      the hidden gift
12:28 francharb      \0/
12:28 francharb      and it will work!
12:28 francharb      set it up
12:28 francharb      find the kohalink biblioitems.bnotes
12:28 francharb      you have to go througr each framework
12:28 francharb      so if you want anything in biblioitems.note
12:27 francharb      within the biblios framework
12:27 francharb      but you can find it
12:27 francharb      that doesnt exist in koha
12:27 francharb      you have to map the field to biblioitems.bnotes
12:27 francharb      because
12:26 francharb      the mapping doest work
12:26 francharb      for the biblioitems.notes
12:26 francharb      hey kf it's christmas before chrismas!
11:55 jcamins        :)
11:55 kf             and make fudge for me :)
11:54 kf             you should move to germany
11:54 kf             yeah I agree
11:54 jcamins        Little roaches.
11:54 jcamins        new_york--
11:54 kf             must be a big spider then
11:54 kf             oh
11:54 * jcamins      forces himself not to kill the spider- it might eat the roaches.
11:53 wahanui        interesting is good
11:53 kf             interesting
11:52 jcamins        That's the one.
11:52 magnuse        http://www.broadway.com/shows/how-succeed-business-without-really-trying/ ?
11:51 kf             ?
11:47 jcamins        Shari and her mother are trying to get rush tickets to see How to Succeed in Business Without Really Trying (with Harry Potter), so they had to leave very early.
11:44 kf             so early!
11:41 jcamins        This is what happens when I do serials before 7am.
11:39 kf             oki
11:38 jcamins        kf: operator error.
11:37 jcamins        It arrives in February.
11:37 jcamins        There's no issue in January.
11:37 jcamins        Oh, never mind.
11:37 kf             not so nice
11:37 kf             I normally test it in the database and then create the real subscription in the real database...
11:36 kf             the prediction is only broken for enhanced patterns I think the rest should hopefully work
11:36 jcamins        kf: yeah.
11:36 kf             serials?
11:36 kf             jcamins: here
11:34 francharb      so actually, i may not have been resolved at all
11:34 francharb      present?" "fixed because nobody claims for it it seems."
11:34 francharb      it was "resolved" because "Commits went into CVS some time ago, as mentioned on IRC.  Is this bug still
11:34 huginn         04Bug 515: critical, P2, ---, gmcharlt, RESOLVED FIXED, biblio.notes ignores Marclinks mapping  durring import
11:34 francharb      http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=515
11:34 francharb      kf, it looks like this problem is oooooooold
11:33 jcamins        Anyone around who uses prediction patterns?
11:32 AmitG          heya magnuse, jcamins
11:32 jcamins        Are prediction patterns broken?
11:29 francharb      and i got nothing in biblioitems.note
11:29 francharb      i mapped biblio.notes and biblioitems.notes with different subfields
11:29 kf             I am not sure what it's used for, footnotes? but which field
11:28 kf             hm, problem like?
11:28 francharb      anyone knows if there is a problem with biblioitems.notes?
11:16 jcamins        Hello AmitG, gaetan_B, and magnuse.
11:16 magnuse        hiya AmitG and jcamins_away
11:15 gaetan_B       hi AmitG
11:15 AmitG          heya gaetan_B
11:09 jcamins_away   kf++ # for signing off on the SRU copy cataloging
11:09 jcamins_away   marcelr++ # for SRU copy cataloging
10:58 kf             lunch time :)
10:55 kf             when I tested, but something seems to be broken again now
10:55 kf             withthe pager
10:55 kf             I think owen got it working once
10:55 kf             hm
10:55 hdl1           even
10:55 hdl1           inc
10:55 hdl1           first patch would consist in removing table-pager.inv
10:55 hdl1           first patch would consist in removing table-pager.ing
10:55 hdl1           later today
10:54 kf             hdl++
10:54 kf             cool :)
10:54 hdl1           I will.
10:54 hdl1           it comes from the table-pager.
10:54 kf             I could test later today
10:54 kf             ?
10:54 kf             are you sending a patch
10:54 kf             oh
10:54 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6842 major, P1 - high, ---, oleonard, NEW , Branch transfer limits broken
10:54 kf             bug 6842
10:54 hdl1           kf: found 6842 bug...
10:42 francharb      i will test it
10:42 francharb      thanks kf!!!!!!!!!
10:40 kf             because I haven't really and it's been there for a while (sometimes things break)
10:40 kf             but you should test it :)
10:40 kf             francharb: sorry was not here, I think you catalog it normally (only putting in the final location) and the rest is done by the software
10:27 francharb      i should test it!
10:27 francharb      the new item will get PROC automatically?
10:26 francharb      or you just dont pay attention
10:26 francharb      and the real location in permanent_location?
10:26 francharb      you have to put the location at PROC
10:26 francharb      when you catalogue a new item
10:25 francharb      it means
10:25 francharb      kf, if you use InProcessingToShelvingCart
10:07 huginn         New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7375] Update minimum version of Perl to 5.10 <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7375>
09:58 francharb      ;)
09:55 kf             I think there should be somehting on the manual too :)
09:55 francharb      kf++
09:55 francharb      thank you very much
09:55 kf             I wanted to test and use it for ourlibraries,but have not got around to it
09:55 francharb      it does!!
09:55 kf             afaik
09:55 kf             if that makes any sense
09:55 francharb      ok, items.permanent_location is like a buffer?
09:55 kf             because the temporary location goes into location...
09:54 kf             when the item goes to cart or proc, the real location will be temporarily stored in permanent_location
09:54 kf             I am not sure this has ever been tested for UNIMARC - it's a ptfs feature
09:54 kf             the program code should deal with moving around the information
09:53 kf             leave the mapping as is
09:53 kf             nope
09:53 kf             and there should also be a cronjob
09:53 kf             are the system preferences
09:53 kf             InProcessingToShelvingCart
09:53 francharb      so we should use items.permanent_location for the real location avec keep items.location empty to use this feature, right?
09:53 kf             ReturnToShelvingCart
09:53 kf             so I think it's not supposed to be mapped to any field, it's for internal use
09:52 kf             does that make sense?
09:52 kf             or run the cronjob whenever the library normally puts the books back on the shelf
09:52 kf             then you run a cronjob nightly to put it back from CART to the real location
09:52 kf             and the real location is saved in permanent_locaton
09:52 kf             when something is returned, it gets location = CART = " on the return cart"
09:51 kf             and the other feature is
09:51 kf             until you check it in
09:51 kf             it gets location PROC = "in cataloguing" or something
09:51 kf             if you have a newly cataloged item
09:51 kf             the idea is
09:51 kf             we don't use it but there are system preferences and cronjobs related to it
09:50 kf             for the cart and proc locations
09:50 francharb      do you know how it works?
09:50 kf             I think that is a featue
09:50 kf             hm
09:50 francharb      but apparently, i get something related to items.location...
09:50 kf             hi francharb :)
09:50 francharb      i thought that you could map any subfield within items.permanent_location
09:49 francharb      have you ever had trouble with items.permanent_location?
09:49 francharb      hi kf
09:44 huginn         New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7013] required format is not enforced for authorized values <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7013>
09:09 kf             yes
09:09 marcelr        recordSchema
09:09 kf             I will try to work it out with the coworker
09:09 kf             it seems our server needs to be told what is sent back
09:09 kf             hm yes
09:09 marcelr        many return other xml
09:09 marcelr        but they should return marc21 or unimarc
09:08 marcelr        i would like more examples
09:08 kf             perhaps we should add some more examples to the wiki or somewhere else
09:08 kf             ah ok
09:07 marcelr        we use a sru server that contains user and password in the url; i saved it in the db field
09:05 kf             yours seemed ok without, so not sure if it was supported at the moment
09:05 marcelr        we use one with a password
09:05 kf             our server requires it seems
09:05 kf             ah
09:05 marcelr        some servers require, others do not
09:05 marcelr        depends
09:05 kf             and where should I put it?
09:05 kf             does the sru work with password and username?
09:05 kf             oh right away a question
09:04 marcelr        was not yet at the time
09:04 kf             had to... be a good example as qa person? :)
09:04 marcelr        had to..
09:03 kf             providing a test plan and examples
09:03 kf             you made it easy to test
09:03 magnus_afk     agreed kf++
09:03 kf             ah, I am fine :)
09:03 marcelr        kf: you need some more kf++ for your testing and signing!!
09:03 kf             qa work
09:02 kf             marcelr: and thx for your qa qork
09:02 huginn         kf: Karma for "marcelr" has been increased 25 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 25.
09:02 kf             @karma marcelr
09:02 kf             marcelr++
09:01 marcelr        ok
09:01 magnus_afk     yup, thanks marcelr
09:00 kf             marcel commented on the bug
08:52 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7375 minor, P5 - low, ---, magnus, NEW , The web installer asks for the wrong Perl version
08:52 magnus_afk     bug 7375 anyway...
08:48 magnus_afk     rangi around?
08:48 kf             no idea
08:47 magnus_afk     is just "5.10" ok, or should it be 5.010001 or something?
08:47 magnus_afk     so the web installer says "Please upgrade to a newer version of Perl (at least Version 5.006001)" when it should be asking for at least version 5.10, but how should the format number be formatted?
08:23 kf             I was repairing the lccn search for someone, but not able to fix the copy and paste
08:23 marcelr        yes
08:23 kf             I was in there once and saw lots of code was copied
08:23 kf             I also like that you refactored the code for acq and z39.50
08:22 marcelr        can remove some dead code too
08:22 marcelr        it needs some follow up, true
08:22 kf             and on the help page
08:22 kf             and we should put some documentation in the manual :)
08:22 kf             I think the gui is a bit debatable
08:22 marcelr        ok
08:21 kf             and people are already gone for the holidays :)
08:21 kf             probably has to wait until next year, it's not public yet
08:21 kf             it's experimental at the moment
08:21 marcelr        send me a mail?
08:21 kf             no, the sru server of our union catalog
08:20 marcelr        your koha server
08:20 kf             I got a link from my coworker but I am not sure how I have to put the configuration into koha
08:20 kf             perhaps you can help me figure out how to put our sru server in there?
08:20 francharb      hi
08:20 kf             I think around 2 hours max
08:20 marcelr        ok
08:20 kf             I didn't do it in one session. so not sure how long it took me
08:19 marcelr        yes, did it take you much time?
08:19 kf             I was not feeling confident to look at the code or the sru implementation- can only confirm it works
08:19 kf             perhaps someone from biblibre could take a look?
08:19 kf             not sure
08:19 marcelr        kf: how long would it take someone to test it for unimarc?
08:18 kf             I have lots of ideas for the custom xslt
08:18 kf             marcelr: it's a really nice addition
08:18 marcelr        hi kf; thanks for 6536
08:18 magnus_afk     wb kf
08:16 kf             back
08:09 marcelr        hi gaetan_B and asaurat
08:08 asaurat        hi!
08:07 gaetan_B       hello
08:02 julian_m       hi marcelr
08:01 marcelr        hi julian_m
08:01 julian_m       hi
07:43 marcelr        morning koha
07:40 alex_a         :)
07:40 magnus_afk     bonjour!
07:40 alex_a         morning !
06:59 magnus_afk     Oak
06:58 Oak            magnuse
06:39 cait           :)
06:38 magnus_afk     and happy solstice, #koha!
06:34 magnus_afk     morgen cait
06:34 cait           morning magnuse
06:34 cait           :)
06:32 magnus_afk     presents_on_24th++
06:08 cait           hm.
06:08 cait           if I could make it work with our sru server it would be even better
05:49 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6536 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, m.de.rooy, ASSIGNED , Z3950 Enhancements: SRU targets, MARC conversion, additional XSLT processing
05:48 cait           <3 bug 6536
05:47 cait           morning hdl :)
05:40 Oak            cool
05:33 cait           dinner with the family and after that presents
05:33 bag            so that's like getting presents almost two days ahead of me
05:33 cait           no, not cheating here :)
05:33 bag            oh no - that's cheating here :)
05:33 cait           we get presents on evening of 24th
05:32 bag            and I think that's everywhere
05:32 cait           I think we can agree to disagree here :)
05:32 bag            and christmas isn't until sunday
05:32 bag            no it's not :)
05:32 cait           no, today is thursday :)
05:32 cait           oh
05:32 bag            and tomorrow really is thursday for me
05:32 cait           hm, is this a timezone thing? :)
05:31 bag            hmm…  isn't christmas on sunday
05:31 cait           and the day before christmas
05:31 cait           yes
05:30 bag            is tomorrow friday yet?
05:25 Brooke         ciao!
05:08 cait           hi AmitG
05:08 Oak            hello AmitG :)
04:48 AmitG          heya ciat, Oak
04:30 cait           morning mr Oak and hi bag
04:30 bag            heya cait Oak and eythian
04:29 Oak            Guten Morgen miss cait :)
04:28 cait           morning Brooke
04:28 Brooke         morning cait
04:27 cait           hm?
04:27 eythian        good cait, morning.
04:26 cait           good morning #koha
04:11 AmitG          heya wahanui
04:10 wahanui        hola, Brooke
04:10 Brooke         howdy
04:09 bag            hi there Brooke
04:07 Brooke         Kia ora :D
04:07 Oak            kia ora Brooke! -:)
04:06 Brooke         how's it going?
04:06 AmitG          heya Brooke :D
04:02 Brooke         o/
03:22 bag            heya AmitG
03:17 AmitG          heya bag
02:55 huginn         New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7220] Returns page message boxes being ignored <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7220>
01:51 glernil        rangi: everything went smoothly. Thanks! :)
01:51 huginn         New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6627] [security] insecure file creation <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6627> / [Bug 7339] Help System in IE8-9 Does Not Load With 500 Error <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7339> / [Bug 7341] Clicking cancel on system preferences search results causes error <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7341>
01:39 huginn         New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6129] ISSN url param for serialssolutions.com <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6129>
01:09 glernil        ok.. i'll try
01:09 rangi          and run each line
01:09 rangi          cat /usr/sbin/koha-remove
01:09 rangi          id do the first plan
01:09 rangi          hmm doesnt look like that patch fixed it then, ah well
01:07 glernil        rangi: root@debian:/home/vsja-library# ~/koha-remove vsja Removing Koha instance vsja ERROR 1396 (HY000) at line 1: Operation DROP USER failed for 'koha_vsja'@'%'
01:07 rangi          try ~/koha-remove vsja
01:07 glernil        rangi: it ran without error... and then?
01:06 rangi          chmod +x ~/koha-remove
01:05 glernil        rangi: root@debian:/home/vsja-library# chmod +x koha-remove chmod: cannot access `koha-remove': No such file or directory
01:05 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6997 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, jcamins, RESOLVED FIXED, koha-remove leaves system in inconsistent state if there is an error
01:05 jcamins_away   rangi: the issue is the one described in bug 6997.
01:05 jcamins_away   Good luck.
01:04 * jcamins_away has to go now.
01:04 rangi          chmod +x koha-remove
01:03 glernil        ERROR 1396 (HY000) at line 1: Operation DROP USER failed for 'koha_vsja'@'%' root@debian:/home/vsja-library# ~/koha-remove vsja bash: /root/koha-remove: Permission denied
01:02 glernil        i ran the first script you gave but an error occured
00:59 jcamins_away   Then run ~/koha-remove instance1
00:59 jcamins_away   wget -O ~/koha-remove "http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob_plain;f=debian/scripts/koha-remove;hb=HEAD"
00:59 jcamins_away   No, this:
00:59 jcamins_away   Run the following: wget -O ~/koha-remove http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob_plain;f=debian/scripts/koha-remove;hb=HEAD
00:58 jcamins_away   (one moment)
00:58 jcamins_away   Better idea.
00:57 jcamins_away   glernil: wait, no.
00:57 jcamins_away   Then run each line manually.
00:57 jcamins_away   glernil: cat /usr/sbin/koha-remove
00:56 glernil        what command? i just run /usr/sbin/koha-remove instance1
00:54 jcamins_away   glernil: yeah, no need for sudo if you're su'd to root.
00:54 glernil        i'm using the superuser terminal so i think sudo is not important
00:54 jcamins_away   Ignore the errors.
00:53 jcamins_away   You'll get errors for almost all of them.
00:53 jcamins_away   glernil: run each command listed in /usr/sbin/koha-remove with sudo.
00:53 jcamins_away   Yeah.
00:53 glernil        jcamins_away: root@debian:/home/vsja-library# /usr/sbin/koha-disable vsja apache2: bad user name vsja-koha Action 'configtest' failed. The Apache error log may have more information.  failed!
00:52 jcamins_away   I just patched that.
00:52 jcamins_away   rangi: no, the problem is that koha-remove died midway.
00:52 rangi          but you can just disable it
00:52 rangi          sorry drop the user
00:52 rangi          the problem with koha-remove is that the user doesnt have rights to drop the db
00:51 rangi          apt-get install koha-common
00:51 rangi          apt-get update
00:51 rangi          just do koha-disable firstinstance
00:50 glernil        it still see my first instance when i upgrade
00:50 glernil        yup.. it is probably the koha-remove script which is not successful in deleting the first instance
00:49 glernil        how can i upgrade to 3.6 from 3.4 using the command line
00:48 jcamins_away   rangi: probably koha-remove.
00:48 rangi          hmm why cant you upgrade using apt-get ?
00:48 jcamins_away   glernil: there's a problem with koha-remove.
00:47 glernil        so i thought the first instance is not totally removed
00:46 glernil        yup that's because i just can't upgrade using the update manager
00:45 huginn         New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 4530] Circulation & fines rules aren't always applied from most specific to less specific <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4530>
00:44 rangi          hmm that looks like you are trying to remove one, not upgrade?
00:43 glernil        root@debian:/home/vsja-library# /usr/sbin/koha-remove vsja Removing Koha instance vsja ERROR 1396 (HY000) at line 1: Operation DROP USER failed for 'koha_vsja'@'%'
00:43 glernil        Now, i'm trying to upgrade my 2nd instance to the latest version (3.6) but i am recieving the following error
00:42 glernil        I have 2 instances in my machine. I deleted the 1st instance and upgraded the 2nd one to version 3.4
00:41 glernil        I can't upgrade my instance to the latest version
00:41 glernil        I am having problem in my debian installation
00:40 rangi          hi glernil
00:40 glernil        good day!
00:14 jcamins_away   wizzyrea: you should stabilize your egg yolks by gently heating in milk.