Time Nick Message 00:14 jcamins_away wizzyrea: you should stabilize your egg yolks by gently heating in milk. 00:40 glernil good day! 00:40 rangi hi glernil 00:41 glernil I am having problem in my debian installation 00:41 glernil I can't upgrade my instance to the latest version 00:42 glernil I have 2 instances in my machine. I deleted the 1st instance and upgraded the 2nd one to version 3.4 00:43 glernil Now, i'm trying to upgrade my 2nd instance to the latest version (3.6) but i am recieving the following error 00:43 glernil root@debian:/home/vsja-library# /usr/sbin/koha-remove vsja Removing Koha instance vsja ERROR 1396 (HY000) at line 1: Operation DROP USER failed for 'koha_vsja'@'%' 00:44 rangi hmm that looks like you are trying to remove one, not upgrade? 00:45 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 4530] Circulation & fines rules aren't always applied from most specific to less specific <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4530> 00:46 glernil yup that's because i just can't upgrade using the update manager 00:47 glernil so i thought the first instance is not totally removed 00:48 jcamins_away glernil: there's a problem with koha-remove. 00:48 rangi hmm why cant you upgrade using apt-get ? 00:48 jcamins_away rangi: probably koha-remove. 00:49 glernil how can i upgrade to 3.6 from 3.4 using the command line 00:50 glernil yup.. it is probably the koha-remove script which is not successful in deleting the first instance 00:50 glernil it still see my first instance when i upgrade 00:51 rangi just do koha-disable firstinstance 00:51 rangi apt-get update 00:51 rangi apt-get install koha-common 00:52 rangi the problem with koha-remove is that the user doesnt have rights to drop the db 00:52 rangi sorry drop the user 00:52 rangi but you can just disable it 00:52 jcamins_away rangi: no, the problem is that koha-remove died midway. 00:52 jcamins_away I just patched that. 00:53 glernil jcamins_away: root@debian:/home/vsja-library# /usr/sbin/koha-disable vsja apache2: bad user name vsja-koha Action 'configtest' failed. The Apache error log may have more information. failed! 00:53 jcamins_away Yeah. 00:53 jcamins_away glernil: run each command listed in /usr/sbin/koha-remove with sudo. 00:53 jcamins_away You'll get errors for almost all of them. 00:54 jcamins_away Ignore the errors. 00:54 glernil i'm using the superuser terminal so i think sudo is not important 00:54 jcamins_away glernil: yeah, no need for sudo if you're su'd to root. 00:56 glernil what command? i just run /usr/sbin/koha-remove instance1 00:57 jcamins_away glernil: cat /usr/sbin/koha-remove 00:57 jcamins_away Then run each line manually. 00:57 jcamins_away glernil: wait, no. 00:58 jcamins_away Better idea. 00:58 jcamins_away (one moment) 00:59 jcamins_away Run the following: wget -O ~/koha-remove http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob_plain;f=debian/scripts/koha-remove;hb=HEAD 00:59 jcamins_away No, this: 00:59 jcamins_away wget -O ~/koha-remove "http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob_plain;f=debian/scripts/koha-remove;hb=HEAD" 00:59 jcamins_away Then run ~/koha-remove instance1 01:02 glernil i ran the first script you gave but an error occured 01:03 glernil ERROR 1396 (HY000) at line 1: Operation DROP USER failed for 'koha_vsja'@'%' root@debian:/home/vsja-library# ~/koha-remove vsja bash: /root/koha-remove: Permission denied 01:04 rangi chmod +x koha-remove 01:04 * jcamins_away has to go now. 01:05 jcamins_away Good luck. 01:05 jcamins_away rangi: the issue is the one described in bug 6997. 01:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6997 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, jcamins, RESOLVED FIXED, koha-remove leaves system in inconsistent state if there is an error 01:05 glernil rangi: root@debian:/home/vsja-library# chmod +x koha-remove chmod: cannot access `koha-remove': No such file or directory 01:06 rangi chmod +x ~/koha-remove 01:07 glernil rangi: it ran without error... and then? 01:07 rangi try ~/koha-remove vsja 01:07 glernil rangi: root@debian:/home/vsja-library# ~/koha-remove vsja Removing Koha instance vsja ERROR 1396 (HY000) at line 1: Operation DROP USER failed for 'koha_vsja'@'%' 01:09 rangi hmm doesnt look like that patch fixed it then, ah well 01:09 rangi id do the first plan 01:09 rangi cat /usr/sbin/koha-remove 01:09 rangi and run each line 01:09 glernil ok.. i'll try 01:39 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6129] ISSN url param for serialssolutions.com <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6129> 01:51 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6627] [security] insecure file creation <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6627> / [Bug 7339] Help System in IE8-9 Does Not Load With 500 Error <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7339> / [Bug 7341] Clicking cancel on system preferences search results causes error <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7341> 01:51 glernil rangi: everything went smoothly. Thanks! :) 02:55 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7220] Returns page message boxes being ignored <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7220> 03:17 AmitG heya bag 03:22 bag heya AmitG 04:02 Brooke o/ 04:06 AmitG heya Brooke :D 04:06 Brooke how's it going? 04:07 Oak kia ora Brooke! -:) 04:07 Brooke Kia ora :D 04:09 bag hi there Brooke 04:10 Brooke howdy 04:10 wahanui hola, Brooke 04:11 AmitG heya wahanui 04:26 cait good morning #koha 04:27 eythian good cait, morning. 04:27 cait hm? 04:28 Brooke morning cait 04:28 cait morning Brooke 04:29 Oak Guten Morgen miss cait :) 04:30 bag heya cait Oak and eythian 04:30 cait morning mr Oak and hi bag 04:48 AmitG heya ciat, Oak 05:08 Oak hello AmitG :) 05:08 cait hi AmitG 05:25 Brooke ciao! 05:30 bag is tomorrow friday yet? 05:31 cait yes 05:31 cait and the day before christmas 05:31 bag hmm… isn't christmas on sunday 05:32 cait hm, is this a timezone thing? :) 05:32 bag and tomorrow really is thursday for me 05:32 cait oh 05:32 cait no, today is thursday :) 05:32 bag no it's not :) 05:32 bag and christmas isn't until sunday 05:32 cait I think we can agree to disagree here :) 05:32 bag and I think that's everywhere 05:33 cait we get presents on evening of 24th 05:33 bag oh no - that's cheating here :) 05:33 cait no, not cheating here :) 05:33 bag so that's like getting presents almost two days ahead of me 05:33 cait dinner with the family and after that presents 05:40 Oak cool 05:47 cait morning hdl :) 05:48 cait <3 bug 6536 05:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6536 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, m.de.rooy, ASSIGNED , Z3950 Enhancements: SRU targets, MARC conversion, additional XSLT processing 06:08 cait if I could make it work with our sru server it would be even better 06:08 cait hm. 06:32 magnus_afk presents_on_24th++ 06:34 cait :) 06:34 cait morning magnuse 06:34 magnus_afk morgen cait 06:38 magnus_afk and happy solstice, #koha! 06:39 cait :) 06:58 Oak magnuse 06:59 magnus_afk Oak 07:40 alex_a morning ! 07:40 magnus_afk bonjour! 07:40 alex_a :) 07:43 marcelr morning koha 08:01 julian_m hi 08:01 marcelr hi julian_m 08:02 julian_m hi marcelr 08:07 gaetan_B hello 08:08 asaurat hi! 08:09 marcelr hi gaetan_B and asaurat 08:16 kf back 08:18 magnus_afk wb kf 08:18 marcelr hi kf; thanks for 6536 08:18 kf marcelr: it's a really nice addition 08:18 kf I have lots of ideas for the custom xslt 08:19 marcelr kf: how long would it take someone to test it for unimarc? 08:19 kf not sure 08:19 kf perhaps someone from biblibre could take a look? 08:19 kf I was not feeling confident to look at the code or the sru implementation- can only confirm it works 08:19 marcelr yes, did it take you much time? 08:20 kf I didn't do it in one session. so not sure how long it took me 08:20 marcelr ok 08:20 kf I think around 2 hours max 08:20 francharb hi 08:20 kf perhaps you can help me figure out how to put our sru server in there? 08:20 kf I got a link from my coworker but I am not sure how I have to put the configuration into koha 08:20 marcelr your koha server 08:21 kf no, the sru server of our union catalog 08:21 marcelr send me a mail? 08:21 kf it's experimental at the moment 08:21 kf probably has to wait until next year, it's not public yet 08:21 kf and people are already gone for the holidays :) 08:22 marcelr ok 08:22 kf I think the gui is a bit debatable 08:22 kf and we should put some documentation in the manual :) 08:22 kf and on the help page 08:22 marcelr it needs some follow up, true 08:22 marcelr can remove some dead code too 08:23 kf I also like that you refactored the code for acq and z39.50 08:23 kf I was in there once and saw lots of code was copied 08:23 marcelr yes 08:23 kf I was repairing the lccn search for someone, but not able to fix the copy and paste 08:47 magnus_afk so the web installer says "Please upgrade to a newer version of Perl (at least Version 5.006001)" when it should be asking for at least version 5.10, but how should the format number be formatted? 08:47 magnus_afk is just "5.10" ok, or should it be 5.010001 or something? 08:48 kf no idea 08:48 magnus_afk rangi around? 08:52 magnus_afk bug 7375 anyway... 08:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7375 minor, P5 - low, ---, magnus, NEW , The web installer asks for the wrong Perl version 09:00 kf marcel commented on the bug 09:01 magnus_afk yup, thanks marcelr 09:01 marcelr ok 09:02 kf marcelr++ 09:02 kf @karma marcelr 09:02 huginn kf: Karma for "marcelr" has been increased 25 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 25. 09:02 kf marcelr: and thx for your qa qork 09:03 kf qa work 09:03 marcelr kf: you need some more kf++ for your testing and signing!! 09:03 kf ah, I am fine :) 09:03 magnus_afk agreed kf++ 09:03 kf you made it easy to test 09:03 kf providing a test plan and examples 09:04 marcelr had to.. 09:04 kf had to... be a good example as qa person? :) 09:04 marcelr was not yet at the time 09:05 kf oh right away a question 09:05 kf does the sru work with password and username? 09:05 kf and where should I put it? 09:05 marcelr depends 09:05 marcelr some servers require, others do not 09:05 kf ah 09:05 kf our server requires it seems 09:05 marcelr we use one with a password 09:05 kf yours seemed ok without, so not sure if it was supported at the moment 09:07 marcelr we use a sru server that contains user and password in the url; i saved it in the db field 09:08 kf ah ok 09:08 kf perhaps we should add some more examples to the wiki or somewhere else 09:08 marcelr i would like more examples 09:09 marcelr but they should return marc21 or unimarc 09:09 marcelr many return other xml 09:09 kf hm yes 09:09 kf it seems our server needs to be told what is sent back 09:09 kf I will try to work it out with the coworker 09:09 marcelr recordSchema 09:09 kf yes 09:44 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7013] required format is not enforced for authorized values <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7013> 09:49 francharb hi kf 09:49 francharb have you ever had trouble with items.permanent_location? 09:50 francharb i thought that you could map any subfield within items.permanent_location 09:50 kf hi francharb :) 09:50 francharb but apparently, i get something related to items.location... 09:50 kf hm 09:50 kf I think that is a featue 09:50 francharb do you know how it works? 09:50 kf for the cart and proc locations 09:51 kf we don't use it but there are system preferences and cronjobs related to it 09:51 kf the idea is 09:51 kf if you have a newly cataloged item 09:51 kf it gets location PROC = "in cataloguing" or something 09:51 kf until you check it in 09:51 kf and the other feature is 09:52 kf when something is returned, it gets location = CART = " on the return cart" 09:52 kf and the real location is saved in permanent_locaton 09:52 kf then you run a cronjob nightly to put it back from CART to the real location 09:52 kf or run the cronjob whenever the library normally puts the books back on the shelf 09:52 kf does that make sense? 09:53 kf so I think it's not supposed to be mapped to any field, it's for internal use 09:53 kf ReturnToShelvingCart 09:53 francharb so we should use items.permanent_location for the real location avec keep items.location empty to use this feature, right? 09:53 kf InProcessingToShelvingCart 09:53 kf are the system preferences 09:53 kf and there should also be a cronjob 09:53 kf nope 09:53 kf leave the mapping as is 09:54 kf the program code should deal with moving around the information 09:54 kf I am not sure this has ever been tested for UNIMARC - it's a ptfs feature 09:54 kf when the item goes to cart or proc, the real location will be temporarily stored in permanent_location 09:55 kf because the temporary location goes into location... 09:55 francharb ok, items.permanent_location is like a buffer? 09:55 kf if that makes any sense 09:55 kf afaik 09:55 francharb it does!! 09:55 kf I wanted to test and use it for ourlibraries,but have not got around to it 09:55 francharb thank you very much 09:55 francharb kf++ 09:55 kf I think there should be somehting on the manual too :) 09:58 francharb ;) 10:07 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7375] Update minimum version of Perl to 5.10 <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7375> 10:25 francharb kf, if you use InProcessingToShelvingCart 10:25 francharb it means 10:26 francharb when you catalogue a new item 10:26 francharb you have to put the location at PROC 10:26 francharb and the real location in permanent_location? 10:26 francharb or you just dont pay attention 10:27 francharb the new item will get PROC automatically? 10:27 francharb i should test it! 10:40 kf francharb: sorry was not here, I think you catalog it normally (only putting in the final location) and the rest is done by the software 10:40 kf but you should test it :) 10:40 kf because I haven't really and it's been there for a while (sometimes things break) 10:42 francharb thanks kf!!!!!!!!! 10:42 francharb i will test it 10:54 hdl1 kf: found 6842 bug... 10:54 kf bug 6842 10:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6842 major, P1 - high, ---, oleonard, NEW , Branch transfer limits broken 10:54 kf oh 10:54 kf are you sending a patch 10:54 kf ? 10:54 kf I could test later today 10:54 hdl1 it comes from the table-pager. 10:54 hdl1 I will. 10:54 kf cool :) 10:54 kf hdl++ 10:55 hdl1 later today 10:55 hdl1 first patch would consist in removing table-pager.ing 10:55 hdl1 first patch would consist in removing table-pager.inv 10:55 hdl1 inc 10:55 hdl1 even 10:55 kf hm 10:55 kf I think owen got it working once 10:55 kf withthe pager 10:55 kf when I tested, but something seems to be broken again now 10:58 kf lunch time :) 11:09 jcamins_away marcelr++ # for SRU copy cataloging 11:09 jcamins_away kf++ # for signing off on the SRU copy cataloging 11:15 AmitG heya gaetan_B 11:15 gaetan_B hi AmitG 11:16 magnuse hiya AmitG and jcamins_away 11:16 jcamins Hello AmitG, gaetan_B, and magnuse. 11:28 francharb anyone knows if there is a problem with biblioitems.notes? 11:28 kf hm, problem like? 11:29 kf I am not sure what it's used for, footnotes? but which field 11:29 francharb i mapped biblio.notes and biblioitems.notes with different subfields 11:29 francharb and i got nothing in biblioitems.note 11:32 jcamins Are prediction patterns broken? 11:32 AmitG heya magnuse, jcamins 11:33 jcamins Anyone around who uses prediction patterns? 11:34 francharb kf, it looks like this problem is oooooooold 11:34 francharb http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=515 11:34 huginn 04Bug 515: critical, P2, ---, gmcharlt, RESOLVED FIXED, biblio.notes ignores Marclinks mapping durring import 11:34 francharb it was "resolved" because "Commits went into CVS some time ago, as mentioned on IRC. Is this bug still 11:34 francharb present?" "fixed because nobody claims for it it seems." 11:34 francharb so actually, i may not have been resolved at all 11:36 kf jcamins: here 11:36 kf serials? 11:36 jcamins kf: yeah. 11:36 kf the prediction is only broken for enhanced patterns I think the rest should hopefully work 11:37 kf I normally test it in the database and then create the real subscription in the real database... 11:37 kf not so nice 11:37 jcamins Oh, never mind. 11:37 jcamins There's no issue in January. 11:37 jcamins It arrives in February. 11:38 jcamins kf: operator error. 11:39 kf oki 11:41 jcamins This is what happens when I do serials before 7am. 11:44 kf so early! 11:47 jcamins Shari and her mother are trying to get rush tickets to see How to Succeed in Business Without Really Trying (with Harry Potter), so they had to leave very early. 11:51 kf ? 11:52 magnuse http://www.broadway.com/shows/how-succeed-business-without-really-trying/ ? 11:52 jcamins That's the one. 11:53 kf interesting 11:53 wahanui interesting is good 11:54 * jcamins forces himself not to kill the spider- it might eat the roaches. 11:54 kf oh 11:54 kf must be a big spider then 11:54 jcamins new_york-- 11:54 jcamins Little roaches. 11:54 kf yeah I agree 11:54 kf you should move to germany 11:55 kf and make fudge for me :) 11:55 jcamins :) 12:26 francharb hey kf it's christmas before chrismas! 12:26 francharb for the biblioitems.notes 12:26 francharb the mapping doest work 12:27 francharb because 12:27 francharb you have to map the field to biblioitems.bnotes 12:27 francharb that doesnt exist in koha 12:27 francharb but you can find it 12:27 francharb within the biblios framework 12:28 francharb so if you want anything in biblioitems.note 12:28 francharb you have to go througr each framework 12:28 francharb find the kohalink biblioitems.bnotes 12:28 francharb set it up 12:28 francharb and it will work! 12:28 francharb \0/ 12:29 francharb the hidden gift 12:29 francharb the one you didn't expect 12:29 francharb but makes everything better 12:29 francharb ;) 12:29 francharb i need a drink now 12:29 francharb :) 12:30 francharb thanks julian_m for finding that by the way! 12:32 kf francharb: instead of going through all frameworks - try administration koha-to-marc-mapping :) 12:32 kf should change all at once - but merry christmas :) 12:32 francharb kf, thats the thing 12:32 francharb it doest work this way 12:32 kf sorry meeting :) 12:32 kf 30 min 12:32 francharb thats what we did 12:33 hdl1 francharb: KohaToMarc mapping to remap a field : 12:33 hdl1 You should 12:33 francharb for this one only, you have to go through everyframework 12:33 francharb hdl1, i know 12:33 francharb BUT 12:33 hdl1 delete first and make it bla,k 12:33 hdl1 blank 12:33 hdl1 save 12:33 hdl1 then re map that. 12:34 francharb you have to map this field with biblioitems.bnotes and bnotes doesn't exist 12:34 hdl1 otherwise, you feel like it doesnot work. 12:34 francharb nope 12:34 hdl1 k 12:34 hdl1 k 12:34 hdl1 k 12:34 francharb for evey field 12:34 francharb it will work 12:34 francharb but not this one 12:34 francharb apparently 12:38 francharb to make the difference between biblio.notes and biblioitems.notes, koha add a "b" at notes for biblioitems.notes. it's hardcodded 12:38 francharb and this biblioitems.bnotes doest exist in the koha to marc mapping 12:38 francharb but it doesnt within the catalogue framework... 12:38 francharb my2cts 12:38 francharb ;) 12:39 francharb merry christmas 12:39 francharb ;) 13:12 hdl1 kf: about bug 6348, there is more than one way to do it. 13:12 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6348 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , can still place holds for expired patrons 13:12 hdl1 oups 13:13 hdl1 bug 6842 sorry 13:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6842 major, P1 - high, ---, oleonard, NEW , Branch transfer limits broken 13:14 hdl1 Simple but not so nice : simply remove table-sorter.inc 13:14 hdl1 oneliner patch. 13:15 hdl1 But removes also the pagination... With big libraries, it is quite embarassing. 13:15 hdl1 smarter but depends on 6636 datatables : change tablesorter to datatables in that page. 13:16 hdl1 I did the latter. 13:16 hdl1 And sending the latter. 13:17 hdl1 marcelr: kf_mtg Joubu tried hard to sign off on bug 6536, but he faces a problem using the nypl z3950 server and even the LOC z3950 server. 13:17 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6536 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, m.de.rooy, ASSIGNED , Z3950 Enhancements: SRU targets, MARC conversion, additional XSLT processing 13:18 ago43 hi, does anyone know the proper command for rebuild_zebra.pl in a package install? 13:18 marcelr hdl1: could you send me his parameters for the server? 13:18 hdl1 when getting the z3950 record as_xml, the xml contains <collection></collection> as root. But it prevents the xslt MARC21toUNIMARC.xsl to do its work. 13:19 hdl1 http://irspy.indexdata.com/full.html?id=Z39.50%3Az3950.loc.gov%3A7090%2Fvoyager 13:19 hdl1 here you are. 13:19 marcelr will try now too 13:20 hdl1 I can send you the xml he got from LOC and you could test the xsl. 13:20 marcelr please do 13:20 hdl1 using as_xml_record would do the job. 13:20 hdl1 But could break the SRU, I don't know. 13:21 marcelr i will have a look 13:25 hdl1 marcelr: done, you should have the xml in your box. 13:25 hdl1 Hi collum 13:25 marcelr hdl1: received 13:25 collum Good morning 13:51 jcamins ago43: koha-rebuild-zebra instance or something like that. 13:51 jcamins Optionally --full 13:53 ago43 thanks! 14:01 jcamins You're welcome. 14:04 hdl1 is there anyone using branch transfer limits around ? 14:10 hdl1 k 14:21 kf back :) 14:23 kf hdl1: sorry, we are not really using it yet 14:23 kf the branch transfer limits but I can test the interface 14:23 hdl1 kf: sent the patch. I hope you can see. 14:26 kf yes I got it 14:31 kf hdl1: could you ask joubu to take another look at late order management? I feel we are almost there it's only an encoding problem in the mail now that has to be fixed. 14:37 kf marcelr++ :) 14:37 marcelr hdl1: still there? 14:37 wahanui it has been said that there is no spoon. 14:37 kf no you missed me giving you karma again :) 14:37 kf for the quick fix 14:38 marcelr i hope he runs this fix 14:38 marcelr simple problem in the xslt that i copied from biblibre once 14:38 hdl1 marcelr: yep ? 14:38 wahanui well, yep is the first bug in face in koha 14:38 marcelr hdl1: i sent a fixc 14:38 marcelr there was no apply-templates in the unimarxc xslt 14:39 marcelr it is on bugzilla 14:39 marcelr you should apply it on top 14:39 hdl1 k 14:39 hdl1 will try 14:39 marcelr i installed a unimarc koha and loc seems to work.. 14:47 kf hi maximep :) 14:48 maximep hello 14:48 maximep 2 days of work left :D 15:14 wizzyrea forget yep 15:14 wahanui wizzyrea: I forgot yep 15:24 gmcharlt nope is yep 15:24 gmcharlt nope? 15:24 wahanui nope is yep 15:25 gmcharlt forget nope 15:25 wahanui gmcharlt: I forgot nope 15:27 wizzyrea huh. the cron wikipedia page is surprisingly helpful. :P 15:28 kf hi gmcharlt and wizzyrea :) 15:28 gmcharlt hi kf 15:28 wizzyrea hi kf :) 15:29 * kf puts christmas cookies (weihnachtskekse) in the middle of #koha 15:29 wizzyrea oh right, is it party day in kiribati yet? 15:30 wizzyrea ;) 15:30 * wizzyrea still has one more day to get the presents together 15:30 wizzyrea but I'm reeeally close 15:31 * kf is curious to no end 15:51 jcamins There aren't any scripts for exporting all the authority or bibliographic records, are there? 15:51 jcamins Well, you can export everything using the UI. 15:51 jcamins All the bibliographic records, I mean. 16:09 kf hm 16:09 kf I don't think there is a script right now 16:10 kf but couldn't you get the xml from zebra perhaps? 16:10 jcamins kf: oh, it's easy enough to do. 16:10 jcamins kf: I was just checking that there wasn't a canonical way to do it. 16:11 wizzyrea you should make up the canonical way 16:11 jcamins wizzyrea: echo "SELECT marc FROM biblioitems;" | mysql -u koha -p koha | gzip -9 > ~/biblios.mrc.gz 16:11 jcamins If you're feeling really fancy, chomp the first line. 16:11 wizzyrea aren't you fancy ;) 16:12 jcamins wizzyrea: nope. Do you see any first-line-chomping happening there? 16:12 wizzyrea keke 16:12 wizzyrea fair enough smarty 16:12 jcamins Actually, I guess I could just tell mysql to not output the header. 16:13 wizzyrea keke 16:13 wizzyrea yes 16:13 wizzyrea you could do that 16:13 jcamins -N 16:14 * kf rips apart her calendar of 2011 16:14 wizzyrea man, 4530 is going to need epic testing 16:14 wizzyrea bug 4530 16:14 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4530 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, srdjan, ASSIGNED , Circulation & fines rules aren't always applied from most specific to less specific 16:14 kf like lots of things 16:14 kf *sighs* 16:14 wizzyrea nod 16:15 kf I really want the new parameters in circ matrix 16:15 kf but a bit scared to start testing 16:15 kf perhaps we could do a test plan together liz? 16:15 wizzyrea which bug? 16:15 kf etherpad? :) 16:15 wizzyrea :) sure 16:15 kf bug 5786 16:15 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5786 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, srdjan, ASSIGNED , Move AllowOnShelfHolds system preference to the Circulation Matrix 16:16 hdl1 kf: folowup sent. 16:16 jcamins kf: Yay! 16:16 wizzyrea ohhhh 16:16 kf ooh? 16:16 kf I want that, but not sure where to start testing 16:16 wizzyrea hmm 16:17 kf it would be such a great additon for our library with closed stacks 16:17 kf only make things available for hold there and not in general... 16:17 wizzyrea *nod* 16:17 kf available for onshelfholds... but you know... 16:17 wizzyrea well 16:17 wizzyrea that particular one 16:17 wizzyrea it looks like it wouldn't be so hard to test. 16:18 kf no, not with a plan :) 16:18 kf but I am kinda blocked on it 16:18 kf so talking with someone will help :) 16:18 wizzyrea gotya 16:18 * kf so wishes the rain would stop 16:18 wizzyrea so- create an itemtype, put some items on it 16:18 kf hdl1: thx - it's on my list! 16:18 kf yeah 16:18 kf but 16:18 hdl1 needs two patches. 16:18 kf what happens with records with items with more than one item type and different settings? 16:18 kf for example 16:19 kf and what do we want to happen 16:19 wizzyrea right, we'd test that 16:19 wizzyrea it's not bib leve itype 16:19 wizzyrea it's item level itemtype 16:19 wizzyrea but you'd have to test it both ways 16:19 wizzyrea at least, I'm assuming 16:19 wizzyrea that since the rules are per itemtype/category code 16:20 hdl1 for what it's worth, similar things have been working on multiple libraries in france for more than 1 year now. 16:20 wizzyrea give me a minute :) 16:20 hdl1 old koha adopters and new ones. 16:21 kf yep 16:21 kf item level itype / bibl level itypes - both have to be tested 16:42 libsysguy hey can anybody tell me how to see if zebra search server is running 16:43 jcamins ps ax | grep zeb 16:43 wizzyrea oh hey libsysguy :) 16:43 libsysguy hey wizzyrea 16:43 wahanui I LIKE SCIENCE! 16:43 libsysguy thanks jcamins 16:43 wizzyrea hehe 16:43 libsysguy ok so I'm getting no search results after a restart 16:43 libsysguy and it looks like the daemon is running 16:44 libsysguy after a server restart** 16:44 jcamins libsysguy: please tell me this isn't your production system? 16:44 libsysguy ugh yes 16:44 libsysguy why oh why is is always prod 16:44 libsysguy i really didn't do anything this time 16:44 jcamins Try restarting the zebra daemon? 16:44 libsysguy i just restarted it to correct a time diff on the VM and now searching is hosed :'( 16:45 jcamins sudo /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon restart 16:45 jcamins You may have called the init script something different. 16:45 wizzyrea when you get it fixed: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-0WVfj76bo 16:45 libsysguy no that was it 16:45 libsysguy gracias kind sir 16:46 libsysguy wizzyrea ill have to watch that later…im waiting for Anna at the hair salon 16:46 libsysguy like a good bf 16:46 kf heh 16:46 libsysguy hmm still no results 16:46 libsysguy corrupt indexes? 16:47 jcamins Maybe. 16:47 jcamins searching faq? 16:47 wahanui well, searching faq is at http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/searching/ 16:48 jcamins That doesn't seem quite right, though. Why is *nothing* showing up? 16:48 libsysguy yeah let me double check that margo hasn't been messing with the suppression 16:48 libsysguy im actually on vacation this week 16:48 libsysguy of course it breaks 16:49 jcamins Of course. 16:49 jcamins Why did you restart the server during a vacation? 16:49 kf jcamins: I didn't dare to ask 16:49 libsysguy haha well I kept getting complaints that it was 30 mins off 16:49 libsysguy with hourly 16:50 jcamins Ah. 16:50 libsysguy if it was suppression it would show up in staff right? 16:51 jcamins Probably, yes. 16:51 libsysguy hmm 16:51 jcamins Nothing showing up in the staff client either? 16:51 libsysguy nope 16:52 libsysguy hmm 16:52 libsysguy i feel a full reindex coming on... 16:52 jcamins Well, you could run the server on the command line, see if you're getting any errors. 16:52 libsysguy true 16:52 jcamins Might not be a bad idea. 16:52 libsysguy from misc right 16:52 jcamins But I suspect a full reindex is in order. 16:52 jcamins No, zebrasrv. 16:53 jcamins Wait. Let's go back a moment. 16:53 libsysguy ok 16:53 libsysguy stepping back 16:53 jcamins ps ax | grep zebrasrv 16:53 jcamins Any results? 16:53 libsysguy just the grep 16:53 jcamins Okay, Zebra's not running. 16:53 libsysguy 0_0 16:53 * jcamins is lazy and always just types zeb 16:54 jcamins Didn't think to specify which task we were looking for. 16:54 libsysguy so the zebra daemon doesn't start zebra 16:54 jcamins Run: sudo /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon start 16:54 libsysguy man do I feel retarded 16:55 libsysguy there must be an error 16:55 libsysguy because after I start it and re-run the grep i still only get the grep proces 16:55 wizzyrea logs> 16:55 wizzyrea that is, anything in them? 16:56 jcamins ~/koha-dev/var/logs/koha-zebradaemon* 16:56 libsysguy lots of this 20111222 10:55:56 koha-zebra-ctl.koha: client (pid 2973) exited with 1 status 16:56 libsysguy in the tail 16:56 jcamins Hm. 16:57 jcamins Which file's that in? There are a couple. 16:57 libsysguy koha-zebradaemon.err 16:57 libsysguy i haven't looked at the log yet 16:57 libsysguy but in the error log it is trying to restart every 30 seconds 16:58 libsysguy wait 16:58 libsysguy in the log it looks like there might be a merge conflict 16:58 libsysguy fml 16:59 jcamins A merge conflict? 17:00 libsysguy yeah in some xslt style sheets 17:00 gaetan_B bye 17:00 jcamins Don't see why that would have any impact. 17:01 libsysguy it is blowing up the zebra logs 17:01 jcamins An XSLT issue? Weird. 17:01 libsysguy yeah there is the dreaded line <<<<<<<origin 17:02 libsysguy yup that was it 17:02 libsysguy its working now 17:02 jcamins Yay! 17:02 libsysguy yayy indeed 17:02 libsysguy i was literally like wtf is happening 17:02 jcamins Oh, I bet it was the Zebra stylesheets? 17:03 libsysguy yeah I think so 17:03 jcamins Okay, that makes sense then. 17:03 libsysguy home/koha/kohaclone/koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/xslt/MARC21slim2RDFDC.xsl 17:03 libsysguy was one 17:03 jcamins I guess Zebra always parses the conversion stylesheets, even when it's not using them. 17:04 libsysguy silly zebra 17:04 libsysguy so when are we moving to solr 17:04 * wizzyrea is reminded of the devil we know vs the devil we don't 17:04 libsysguy hahaha 17:05 wizzyrea just sayin we hate zebra, but solr will have it's own beautiful quirks. 17:05 jcamins And this, folks, is why friends don't let friends work over their holidays. 17:05 jcamins wizzyrea: yeah, and its own quirks, too. :P 17:05 wizzyrea go have fun with blondie ;) 17:05 libsysguy haha oh im far from done 17:05 libsysguy this was just a fire 17:05 libsysguy I'm actually migrating Illiad 17:05 libsysguy from OCLC hosting to our own server 17:06 wizzyrea you are a special kind of crazy. 17:06 libsysguy and it only runs on IIS 17:06 libsysguy fml 17:06 wizzyrea fyl indeed. 17:06 kf some devils are worse than others... 17:06 libsysguy and the kind of crazy i am is called work-a-holic 17:06 libsysguy IIS is the worst kind of devil 17:06 jcamins libsysguy: I think I'd rather *watch* my wife get her hair cut. 17:06 libsysguy hahahaha 17:06 kf isn't there a quote from rangi about fridnds not letting friends use proprietary software? ;) 17:06 jcamins There is indeed. 17:07 jcamins @quote search friends 17:07 huginn jcamins: 2 found: #115: "chris: friends don't let friends use..." and #121: "mtj> friends don't let librarians spec bib formats" 17:07 jcamins @quote get 115 17:07 huginn jcamins: Quote #115: "chris: friends don't let friends use proprietary software." (added by chris_n at 05:36 PM, January 19, 2011) 17:07 libsysguy is there a free software that works like illiad 17:07 jcamins @quote get 121 17:07 huginn jcamins: Quote #121: "mtj> friends don't let librarians spec bib formats" (added by chris at 08:18 PM, March 24, 2011) 17:07 jcamins Also true. 17:07 kf both true 17:07 * jcamins gets to indulge his inner photography geek today. 17:08 * jcamins is quite looking forward to that. 17:08 libsysguy what are you doing today jcamins 17:09 jcamins libsysguy: buying an articulated arm so that I can take perfect pictures of books. :) 17:09 jcamins And probably some sort of light. 17:10 libsysguy oh oh it looks like the haircut is almost done 17:11 libsysguy i better pack up shop 17:11 libsysguy thanks for your help guys 17:11 jcamins libsysguy: so you get to set up IIS? 17:11 libsysguy you're literally the best 17:11 jcamins I recommend you ask the stylist to take longer. ;) 17:11 libsysguy yes i did 17:11 libsysguy hehe 17:11 libsysguy after a segfault in IIS 17:12 jcamins Don't merge master into your production system again until you're back from vacation. 17:12 libsysguy yeah I'm definitely not doing that 17:12 libsysguy hmm I wonder if bg is going to get hourly merged into master by the first :p 17:14 nengard libsysguy i'm testing it today 17:14 nengard once he wakes up and gives me the url 17:14 libsysguy which url? 17:14 wahanui which url are you adding them from? 17:14 wizzyrea here's our test plan for bug 5786: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XJSWZRf2tJhb7713iU1o0eBdtRhWaA5On5C3qGmf-to/edit 17:14 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5786 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, srdjan, ASSIGNED , Move AllowOnShelfHolds system preference to the Circulation Matrix 17:14 wizzyrea (still in progress) 17:16 libsysguy nengard what url do you need? 17:16 nengard libsysguy he set up a test server for me to play on 17:17 libsysguy ohh 17:17 nengard but yes the goal is to get it tested before the first 17:17 libsysguy just making sure you don't need my git branch :) 17:17 nengard nope, i've seen that 17:18 libsysguy ok cool 17:18 * jcamins heads out to do fun things like buy photography equipment. 17:20 libsysguy so nengard we are just testing to make sure it works right…no scope creep 17:21 kf @quote search aspirin 17:21 huginn kf: 2 found: #164: "<sekjal> word of advice to folks: take an..." and #6: "gmcharlt: kf: hold requests are a plot to sell..." 17:21 kf @quote get 6 17:21 huginn kf: Quote #6: "gmcharlt: kf: hold requests are a plot to sell more aspirin ;)" (added by wizzyrea at 04:13 PM, June 16, 2009) 17:21 wizzyrea ^^ this 17:21 wizzyrea @quote get 164 17:21 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #164: "<sekjal> word of advice to folks: take an aspirin before reading C4/Overdues.pm" (added by wizzyrea at 09:08 PM, November 14, 2011) 17:21 kf 2009...have been around for some time now :) 17:22 wizzyrea *nod* 17:22 wizzyrea quote 6 17:22 wizzyrea so, basically when huginn/munin was born 17:22 kf @quote get 17:22 huginn kf: (quote get [<channel>] <id>) -- Gets the quote with id <id> from the quote database for <channel>. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself. 17:22 kf @quote get 1 17:22 huginn kf: Quote #1: "<pianohacker> resolve, rather, I doubt it needs lotion" (added by gmcharlt at 03:05 AM, May 31, 2009) 17:22 kf @quote get 2 17:22 huginn kf: Quote #2: "<jwagner> Hope springs eternal in little kitty hearts. Better watch the doors :-)" (added by gmcharlt at 04:04 PM, June 03, 2009) 17:22 wizzyrea @quote get 3 17:22 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #3: "< bignose-work> the only constant in climate over the next several decades will be that the climate doesn't match what you just got used to." (added by chris at 01:55 AM, June 12, 2009) 17:22 wizzyrea @quote get 4 17:23 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #4: "< kf> I often get asked: You have to study to be a librarian? perhaps MARC was invented to answer it ;)" (added by chris at 12:50 PM, June 12, 2009) 17:23 wizzyrea ^^ lol 17:23 wizzyrea @quote get 5 17:23 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #5: "<jwagner> Why is it every Koha rock I turn over produces a zillion (metaphorical) ants, each with a new question????" (added by kf at 01:13 PM, June 12, 2009) 17:23 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn. 17:23 wizzyrea @quote get 7 17:23 kf @quote get 7 17:23 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #7: "Snow_Fox: a rift opens in space the information is shuffled to dev_hyperspace rift then closes" (added by wizzyrea at 03:28 PM, June 18, 2009) 17:23 huginn kf: Quote #7: "Snow_Fox: a rift opens in space the information is shuffled to dev_hyperspace rift then closes" (added by wizzyrea at 03:28 PM, June 18, 2009) 17:23 wizzyrea hehe 17:23 kf @quote get 8 17:23 huginn kf: Quote #8: "< wizzyrea> in my experience the transition to koha is much harder for libraries that are already automated" (added by pianohacker at 05:57 PM, June 19, 2009) 17:23 kf let's do the top ten and get back to work :P 17:23 wizzyrea still true 17:24 kf yes 17:24 wizzyrea @quote get 9 17:24 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #9: "pianohacker ponders drumstick->ear as a method of food acquisition...We haven't gone to this good mexican restaurant in a while..." (added by wizzyrea at 08:23 PM, June 19, 2009) 17:24 kf @qoute get 9 17:24 huginn kf: downloading the Perl source 17:24 kf although I had 2 tickets this year from the library we migrated from horizon 17:24 kf and they did the most checkouts of all 17:24 wizzyrea hey, that's pretty great. 17:24 kf yep :) 17:24 wizzyrea @quote get 10 17:24 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #10: "< pianohacker> You helped start an open source project; clearly your sense of what to avoid to make your life easier has been impaired for a while :)" (added by chris at 07:59 PM, June 23, 2009) 17:24 wizzyrea hehehehe 17:24 kf oh 17:24 kf I like that one 17:25 wizzyrea alright back to work lol 17:25 * wizzyrea cracks the whip 17:26 libsysguy later #koha 17:26 wizzyrea anybody else really miss oleonard? 17:26 * wizzyrea does 17:27 wizzyrea I could go for a dose of his biting wit about now 17:27 kf oh 17:28 kf christmas vacation? 17:28 wizzyrea yea 17:32 kf have to go :) 17:32 kf bbiab 18:10 cait back :) 18:16 cait hm 18:26 rangi Morning 18:32 cait morning rangi :) 18:43 mgr86 hello koha community, I had a support question. I found the answer in the doucmentation FAQ 18:43 mgr86 but it was missing one important part 18:43 mgr86 http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/installingupgrading/#26 18:44 mgr86 essetnailly the question was "Question: I added some books for testing, now I’m done testing but I want to delete all of my test items and bibs and start fresh. How do I do it?" 18:44 mgr86 it instructed me to truncate biblio table, which I had already done before finding the doucmentation, but it also instructed to me clear the indexes 18:45 mgr86 which is exactly what I was trying to do when I found the documentation 18:45 mgr86 however, the documentation is incomplete 18:45 mgr86 it reads "... To clear the indexes issue: at your shell prompt." 18:45 mgr86 so, I am not sure what command to call 18:46 jwagner mgr86, if you've truncated biblio, biblioitems, and items tables, you should just be able to run a zebra reindex which will clear the indexes. 18:56 maximep or u can probably run "zebraidx -c /path/to/zebra-biblios.cfg drop biblios" 18:57 maximep and same for authorities 19:12 rangi yo people 19:12 rangi bug 7339 19:12 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7339 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , Help System in IE8-9 Does Not Load With 500 Error 19:12 rangi and bug 6627 19:12 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6627 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , [security] insecure file creation 19:12 rangi could do with a sign off 19:13 jcamins_away rangi: didn't I see a sign off on bug 6627 yesterday? 19:13 mgr86 why is zebra-biblios.cfg commonly located? 19:14 jcamins_away mgr86: if you mean "where," if you have a standard install it's probably at /etc/koha/zebradb/zebra-biblios.cfg 19:14 jcamins_away If dev install, ~/koha-dev/etc/zebradb/zebra-biblios.cfg 19:15 rangi if you are using the debian packages, theres one for each koha instance 19:15 jcamins_away In which case it would be at /etc/koha/sites/[instance]/zebradb/zebra-biblios.cfg 19:16 jcamins_away I believe. 19:18 mgr86 thanks, when doing the same for authorities do I need to issues drop authorities or still drop biblios? 19:21 maximep i think u do zebra-authorities-dom.cfg -d authorities 19:29 rangi @quote random 19:29 huginn rangi: Quote #166: "jcamins: this is IRC. There's a several decade long tradition of lurking." (added by wizzyrea at 03:06 PM, November 17, 2011) 19:29 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn. 19:43 jcamins_away @later tell sekjal When you get a chance could respond to Bug 7377 with the jQuery from GoodwillAZ? Thanks. 19:43 huginn jcamins_away: The operation succeeded. 19:46 jcamins_away trea: unless you have the lexile jQuery from Goodwill AZ, in which case I hereby delegate that to you. :) 19:46 trea good luck to you on that 19:47 jcamins_away trea: you mean you won't be delegated to? 19:47 jcamins_away Since sekjal's on vacation, looks like he's still tagged, then. ;) 19:47 trea i mean he's still tagged 19:47 trea and i'm plenty busy, thx 19:47 jcamins_away trea: that'd be pretty easy, if you had the jQuery handy. 19:56 small SomeBody Help me? 19:56 small I need help installing koha 3.3 19:56 small I need help installing koha 3.6 19:57 small Anybody 19:57 small no...? 19:57 wahanui it has been said that no is failing unit tests 19:57 small Ok there wahanui 19:58 jcamins_away small: what's the problem you're facing? 19:59 jcamins_away ... nice chat. Any time. 19:59 ibeardslee 3 minutes? 20:00 jcamins_away ibeardslee: time seems to stretch on forever when your production server is lying in a smoldering heap on the floor. 20:01 jcamins_away It's like that Andrew Lloyd Weber song, "MARC changes everything." 20:01 ibeardslee true, but asking for help installing is surely a dev server rather than a prod server? 20:01 jcamins_away I would think. 20:02 * jcamins_away thinks he's chosen the wrong channel for misquoting musical theatre. 20:02 * wizzyrea laughs at jcamins 20:03 * jcamins_away was going for "with," but he'll take it. ;) 20:08 wizzyrea well with is what I think I meant 20:08 wizzyrea is this up to date re: database updates? 20:08 wizzyrea http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Sign_off_on_a_pushed_branch 20:09 * wizzyrea suspects not 20:10 cait it still is 20:10 cait the new system is not in yet 20:11 cait and I am still not sure it's an improvement 20:11 cait nah, more sure it will only complicate things 20:11 * jcamins_away is sure the new system is better, but increasingly doesn't care. ;) 20:11 wizzyrea wow 20:12 wizzyrea pre holiday and vacation angst? 20:12 wizzyrea or genuine? 20:12 jcamins_away No, I genuinely increasingly don't care whether the decisions I think are better are made or not. 20:13 wizzyrea oh I see. 20:15 jcamins_away I would just like decisions to be made. 20:15 jcamins_away Do I think it would be an improvement? Yes. Do I think it would as much of an improvement as not talking about it and holding up enhancements would be? No. 20:15 jcamins_away So, there you have it. I think it would be better, but my idealism is not strong enough to override my pragmatism. ;) 20:21 cait yeah 20:21 cait holding up everything is the bad part 20:21 cait make it go in 20:21 cait and let us live with it and move things 20:21 cait forward 20:42 rhcl_ishere \nick jcamins_comeback 20:43 rhcl_ishere ping jcamins_away 20:43 jcamins_away rhcl_ishere: I'm only kind of here. 20:55 rhcl_ishere OK, we finished the install of Ubuntu 11.1 on the computer, let me know when you want to talk about it 21:27 maximep arg -_- 21:44 mib_upvxs5 Anybody here? 21:44 mib_upvxs5 i need some help installing some packages 21:44 mib_upvxs5 "modules" 21:45 wizzyrea pretty quiet around here, but you can go ahead and ask 21:45 mib_upvxs5 ok 21:45 mib_upvxs5 it is these files, 21:45 mib_upvxs5 Graphics::Magick 21:45 wahanui rumour has it Graphics::Magick is probably used for labels 21:45 mib_upvxs5 Net::Z3950::ZOOM 21:45 mib_upvxs5 PDF::API2::Simple 21:46 mib_upvxs5 XML::LibXSLT 21:46 mib_upvxs5 That is it 21:46 mib_upvxs5 They all error on install 21:46 wizzyrea error how? 21:46 cait and which os? 21:46 wahanui which os are you using? 21:47 mib_upvxs5 ubuntu 10.04 21:47 mib_upvxs5 for this one, PDF::API2::Simple 21:47 mib_upvxs5 the error is 21:47 mib_upvxs5 an't locate inc/Module/Install.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.1 /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.10 /usr/share/perl/5.10 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at Makefile.PL line 1. 21:47 cait what have you tried to do? 21:47 mib_upvxs5 sudo cpan PDF::API2::Simple 21:48 wizzyrea http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_Ubuntu 21:48 wizzyrea have you consulted this? 21:48 mib_upvxs5 No 21:48 wizzyrea are you just trying to get a koha install? 21:48 cait mib_upvxs5: you should use packages from your distribution whenever possible 21:48 wizzyrea ^^ 21:48 mib_upvxs5 I am trying to install koha 21:49 mib_upvxs5 I tried that and i couldnt get it to work 21:49 cait and for ubuntu it's possible :) 21:49 mib_upvxs5 ok 21:49 wizzyrea you probably need to follow the instructions at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_Ubuntu 21:49 mib_upvxs5 Ok 21:54 mib_upvxs5 i am fallowing that link you gave me and when i run 21:54 mib_upvxs5 # sudo apt-get install zip unzip lamp-server^ yaz idzebra-2.0 dselect unp openjdk-6-jre 21:54 mib_upvxs5 it says there is broken dependancies 21:55 wizzyrea what is the error message? 21:55 wahanui hmmm... the error message is correct because that's not how you're supposed to run it 21:55 wizzyrea forget the error message 21:55 wahanui wizzyrea: I forgot error message 21:55 mib_upvxs5 haha 21:55 mib_upvxs5 Umm, just a sec 21:56 mib_upvxs5 The following packages have unmet dependencies: idzebra-2.0: Depends: idzebra-2.0-utils (= 2.0.50-1indexdata) but it is not going to be installed Depends: libidzebra-2.0-modules but it is not going to be installed yaz: Depends: libncurses5 (>= 5.7+20100313) but 5.7+20090803-2ubuntu3 is to be installed Depends: libyaz4 (>= 4.2.22) but 21:56 mib_upvxs5 it is not going to be installed E: Broken packages 21:56 wizzyrea oh sec - there's another linkk 21:57 wizzyrea thatsorry this one might be less dumb: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_Lucid_using_Koha_packages 21:57 wizzyrea ^^ this will be easier, not harder. 21:57 mib_upvxs5 OK, thanks :) 21:58 wizzyrea but you still may run into the dependencies thing. But maybe not. 21:58 wizzyrea is this a clean system, i.e. is it possible to reinstall and start over? 21:59 wizzyrea (not that you'd want to take that option) 22:00 mib_upvxs5 Yes it is a "Clean system" 22:15 mib_upvxs5 i fallowed the instructions on the new link and it works, but when i go to :8080 it errors 22:15 wizzyrea what is the error message? 22:16 mib_upvxs5 XML Parsing Error: undefined entity Location: jar:file:///usr/lib/firefox-3.6.24/chrome/toolkit.jar!/content/global/netError.xhtml Line Number 60, Column 12: <title>&loadError.label;</title> -----------^ 22:16 wizzyrea wow I cannot say I've seen that one before. 22:16 mib_upvxs5 :( 22:16 mib_upvxs5 There was no errors on install 22:17 mib_upvxs5 The only error i can see it 22:17 mib_upvxs5 The only error i can see is 22:17 maximep is there something wrong in the source ? 22:17 mib_upvxs5 pache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName [Thu Dec 22 14:13:45 2011] [warn] NameVirtualHost *:80 has no VirtualHosts 22:17 wizzyrea that doesn't look like a koha error at all. 22:17 maximep anything in the koha error log ? 22:19 mib_7f62rm Sorry 22:19 mib_7f62rm My VNC connection broke 22:19 mib_7f62rm What were you saying? 22:19 maximep asking if theres anything in the koha error log 22:19 mib_7f62rm Where is that? 22:19 wahanui that is a good goal 22:19 maximep /var/log/koha something 22:20 mib_7f62rm ok 22:20 mib_7f62rm i'll look 22:21 wizzyrea /var/log/koha/koha-error_log 22:22 mib_7f62rm there is nothing in the folder /var/log/koha 22:23 mib_7f62rm Hello? 22:23 wizzyrea I can't say I've seen that error before 22:23 wizzyrea can you connect to other websites from this machine? 22:23 mib_7f62rm Yes 22:24 mib_7f62rm I am on here from that machine :) 22:25 wizzyrea that error you posted really looks like a problem with firefox to me 22:26 mib_7f62rm Oh 22:26 mib_7f62rm What else can i try? 22:26 wizzyrea well firefox is at least version 8 now 22:26 mib_7f62rm i have that 22:26 mib_7f62rm i think, well, i should 22:26 mib_7f62rm Anyway 22:26 mib_7f62rm FYI 22:27 mib_7f62rm I just tried to go to my domain on my laptop 22:27 mib_7f62rm It works, but if i goto port 8080 it says 22:27 mib_7f62rm Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at www.XXX:8080. 22:27 wizzyrea ok, did you tell apache to listen on port 8080? 22:28 mib_7f62rm ummm, probs not, 'cause i dont know how ;) 22:28 mib_7f62rm hows do i do that? 22:28 wizzyrea Add the following lines to /etc/apache2/ports.conf: 22:28 wizzyrea 183 22:28 wizzyrea 184 Listen 80 22:28 wizzyrea 185 Listen 8080 22:28 wizzyrea urg 22:29 wizzyrea Add the following lines to /etc/apache2/ports.conf: 22:29 wizzyrea Listen 80 22:29 wizzyrea Listen 8080 22:29 wizzyrea there 22:29 mib_7f62rm ok 22:29 wizzyrea If not running named virtual hosts (The default koha installation does not use 22:29 wizzyrea named virtual hosts.), comment out the following line: 22:29 wizzyrea NameVirtualHost *:80 22:29 wizzyrea but, try the other first 22:29 mib_7f62rm ok 22:30 wizzyrea after you add the listening ports 22:30 wizzyrea apache2ctl restart 22:30 wizzyrea to restart apache 22:31 mib_7f62rm What is the line to restart it again, i forgot :/ 22:31 wizzyrea apache2ctl restart 22:31 mib_7f62rm oh 22:31 wizzyrea sudo, prolly 22:31 mib_7f62rm haha, oops 22:31 wizzyrea sudo apache2ctl restart 22:32 wizzyrea any luck now? 22:32 mib_7f62rm says the url is not found at port 8080, it is also a 404 on the main page :/ 22:32 wizzyrea but 22:32 wizzyrea that means it's listening 22:32 wizzyrea it's at least answering now 22:32 mib_7f62rm Yes 22:32 wizzyrea so that's progress. 22:32 mib_7f62rm But it 404'd my homepage 22:33 wizzyrea adding listen 8080 404'd your homepage? 22:33 mib_7f62rm Yes 22:33 mib_7f62rm It says 404 when i go to my domain noe 22:33 mib_7f62rm It says 404 when i go to my domain now 22:34 mib_7f62rm Or, maybe 22:34 wizzyrea did you get rid of listen 80? 22:35 mib_7f62rm Well, i dont have a webpage set up, it just says 404 now instead of the default Apache page, nope, there is still listen 80 and 8080 there 22:35 wizzyrea ok that's actually good. 22:35 mib_7f62rm Did you want A wireless desktop connection? 22:35 mib_7f62rm Oh 22:35 mib_7f62rm Would that help ^^^ 22:35 wizzyrea so, go into /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/ 22:35 mib_7f62rm Ok 22:35 wizzyrea you should see a koha in there 22:36 mib_7f62rm Nope 22:36 wizzyrea ok 22:36 mib_7f62rm No koha, there is nothing 22:36 wizzyrea then go to /etc/apache2/sites-available 22:36 mib_7f62rm ok 22:36 wizzyrea is there a koha in there? 22:37 mib_7f62rm Nope 22:37 mib_7f62rm :/ 22:37 mib_7f62rm Not good? 22:37 wizzyrea and you did sudo apt-get install koha-common 22:37 mib_7f62rm Yes 22:37 mib_7f62rm it took 10min to do that 22:37 wizzyrea and it did not error? 22:37 mib_7f62rm nope 22:38 mib_7f62rm not that i see 22:38 mib_7f62rm Should i do that again? 22:39 wizzyrea try a dpkg -l koha-common 22:39 mib_7f62rm ok 22:39 wizzyrea does it show it as installed? 22:39 mib_7f62rm just a sec 22:39 mib_7f62rm is that a 'l' or 'i' ? 22:39 mib_7f62rm ah, l 22:40 wizzyrea lower case L 22:40 mib_7f62rm ok 22:40 mib_7f62rm Yes 22:40 mib_7f62rm It shows installed, as far as i can see 22:41 mib_7f62rm it says, 22:42 mib_7f62rm Name - Koha-Common Version - 3.7 Description -- Blah blah blaa ;) 22:42 mib_7f62rm Are you there? 22:43 wizzyrea are you impatient? 22:43 wizzyrea ;) 22:43 mib_7f62rm very :p 22:43 maximep good luck =) 22:43 mib_7f62rm Or, i'll be back in 5, give you time to think :) 22:43 wizzyrea do you have anything in /etc/koha 22:44 mib_7f62rm umm 22:44 mib_7f62rm i'll look 22:44 mib_7f62rm Yes 22:44 wizzyrea what's in there 22:44 mib_7f62rm lots of folders and files, you want a list? 22:44 wizzyrea nah 22:44 mib_7f62rm k 22:44 wizzyrea do you have a koha-sites.conf? 22:45 wizzyrea in /etc/koha 22:46 mib_7f62rm nope 22:46 wizzyrea then again I have a working one on ubuntu, and I don't have that so that may not be it 22:47 mib_7f62rm there is an apache-site.conf.in 22:47 wizzyrea yea, naw 22:47 mib_7f62rm koha-conf.site.xml 22:47 wizzyrea what usually happens 22:47 wizzyrea is there is a symlink in sites-available that points to /etc/koha/koha-httpd.conf 22:47 mib_7f62rm oh 22:48 mib_7f62rm thats not there 22:48 wizzyrea and the installer *usually* goes ahead and a2ensite koha for you 22:48 wizzyrea which puts it in sites-enabled 22:48 mib_7f62rm oh 22:48 wizzyrea this is my concern - why didnt it happen.... 22:48 mib_7f62rm But it didn't 22:48 mib_7f62rm :o 22:49 mib_7f62rm so you have no idea then 22:49 wizzyrea what does tail /var/log/apt/history.log tell you 22:49 mib_7f62rm ill look 22:50 mib_7f62rm It tells me alot .... 22:50 wizzyrea ok, you're looking for errors related to koha 22:51 mib_7f62rm ok 22:51 mib_7f62rm Will it say :error: or something that i can search for? 22:51 wizzyrea i'm not really sure - you can always search for koha 22:51 mib_7f62rm The log ennded december 20th, its the 22nd .... 22:52 mib_7f62rm i installed koha 30min ago 22:52 mib_7f62rm oh 22:52 mib_7f62rm never mind 22:52 mib_7f62rm i see it 22:53 wizzyrea you can also tail /var/log/dpkg.log there might be stuff in there. 22:53 mib_7f62rm It says koha common was installed 22:53 mib_7f62rm and kohadev1 and kohadev2, thats it 22:53 mib_7f62rm and then all the pther packages 22:53 mib_7f62rm and then all the other packages i installed for koha 22:53 wizzyrea did any of them fail? 22:54 wizzyrea besides the ones you originally had issues with? 22:54 mib_7f62rm Nope 22:54 * magnus_afk wishes #koha a good time of the day 22:54 * wizzyrea is going to have to do that soon too 22:54 wizzyrea gotta fetch the kiddo 22:55 mib_7f62rm ok 22:55 mib_7f62rm hmmm 22:55 wizzyrea hm that's a bit of a stumper - i'm not sure why the symlink never got made 22:55 wizzyrea you could try making it 22:55 wizzyrea by hand 22:55 mib_7f62rm lol, How? 22:57 mib_7f62rm Hmm, i''' just come back tomorrow .... 22:57 mib_7f62rm Or ill look at the log 22:57 mib_7f62rm see if anyone talked about it 22:57 mib_7f62rm I'm going to go 22:57 wizzyrea ln -s /etc/koha/koha-httpd.conf /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/koha 22:57 mib_7f62rm Thanks for your help 22:57 * wizzyrea has to go anyway 22:57 mib_7f62rm ok 22:58 wizzyrea gl though 22:58 mib_7f62rm So what do i do with those paths? 22:58 mib_7f62rm Thanks 22:58 mib_7f62rm Or not 22:58 mib_7f62rm :p 23:11 chris_n Merry Christmas #koha 23:13 jenkins_koha Starting build #26 for job Koha_3.6.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 23:26 chris_n and Happy New Year 23:27 * chris_n heads out for a week or so 23:55 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.6.x build #26: SUCCESS in 42 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.6.x/26/ 23:55 jenkins_koha * f.demians: 3.6.2 Translation Update 23:55 jenkins_koha * chris.nighswonger: Release Notes for 3.06.02.000 22 Dec 2011 22:53:23 Z 23:55 jenkins_koha * chris.nighswonger: Updating Version Number to 3.06.02.000