Time  Nick         Message
00:00 bag          oh I thought I'd get it to say -- I LIKE SPACE
00:00 bag          heh
00:00 bag          I guess wahanui ain't around
00:00 rhcl         bug 6123
00:00 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6123 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, Request to find borrowers without issues overload the server
00:00 rhcl         huginn is alive still
00:00 huginn       rhcl: I've exhausted my database of quotes
00:01 bag          bug 1
00:01 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1 major, P2, ---, chris, CLOSED FIXED, Missing uploadedmarc table definition
00:01 bag          I don't think I have ever looked at bug 1
00:02 rhcl         bug 88888
00:02 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=88888 was not found.
00:03 bag          bug 444
00:03 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=444 enhancement, P2, ---, paul.poulain, REOPENED , No where to add types for Manual Credit or Manual Invoice
00:03 rhcl         /etc/init.d/wahanui -restart
00:04 ibeardslee   ww?
00:04 rhcl         well, time to leave before we get our 10 inches of snow...
00:04 bag          oh wow
00:04 bag          10 inches of snow!
00:04 bag          thats exciting - a white christmas
00:05 bag          @wunder sba
00:05 huginn       bag: The current temperature in Santa Barbara, California is 13.0�C (3:53 PM PST on December 19, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 9.0�C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
00:05 rhcl         oh, I just kinda made that up, but it is supposed to snow. Amarillo is targeted for 15" though.
00:05 bag          wow
00:05 bag          @wunder rollin hills, mo
00:05 huginn       bag: The current temperature in Hi-Lex Hudson, Hudson, Michigan is 6.7�C (7:05 PM EST on December 19, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 3.0�C. Windchill: 4.0�C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016.1 hPa (Rising).
00:05 bag          heh not even close
00:05 bag          @wunder rolling hills, mo
00:05 huginn       bag: Error: No such location could be found.
00:06 bag          @wunder wellington nz
00:06 huginn       bag: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 15.0�C (12:00 PM NZDT on December 20, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Rising).
00:06 bag          got me beat today
00:08 rhcl         @wunder 64505
00:08 huginn       rhcl: The current temperature in APRSWXNET St.Joseph MO US, Saint Joseph, Missouri is 2.8�C (5:46 PM CST on December 19, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: -2.0�C. Windchill: 3.0�C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1019.9 hPa.  Winter Weather Advisory in effect until 6 PM CST Tuesday... 
00:08 rhcl         @wunder amarillo
00:08 huginn       rhcl: The current temperature in Oliver-Eakle, Amarillo, Texas is 0.1�C (6:08 PM CST on December 19, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 97%. Dew Point: -0.0�C. Windchill: -4.0�C. Pressure: 29.61 in 1002.6 hPa (Rising).  Blizzard Warning in effect until noon CST Tuesday... 
00:08 rhcl         blizzard
03:19 AmitG        heya bag
03:20 AmitG        heya chris
03:23 bag          heya AmitG
04:23 Oak          kia ora #koha
04:32 eythian      ka kite #koha
04:35 rinzin       hello koha comunity
04:36 rinzin       anybody there??
04:37 Oak          yup
04:38 rinzin       i have one problem
04:38 rinzin       in installation of koha
04:38 rinzin       while I attempt to run Makefile.PL I get the following message:
04:39 rinzin       can't locate ZOOM.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /root/koha-3.04.07 /usr/lib/share/perl5/site_perl/
04:39 rinzin       i am trying to install in Centos 5.6
04:39 rinzin       so can you help me?
04:40 Oak          not really. but someone will. wait.
04:41 rinzin       okay
04:41 rinzin       thanks
04:43 Oak          while you are waiting, see these: http://goo.gl/epmWY http://goo.gl/zQyM1 http://goo.gl/Qm6oA
04:43 rinzin       thanks
05:21 cait         good morning #koha
05:21 Oak          good morning miss cait :)
05:22 cait         hi mr Oak
06:07 cait         silent this morning
06:09 Oak          i like it
06:09 Oak          a little
06:11 cait         you like silent mornings?
06:11 cait         @wunder Konstanz
06:11 huginn       cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is -2.0�C (7:00 AM CET on December 20, 2011). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: -5.0�C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Falling).
06:11 cait         br.
06:12 Oak          yup
06:27 Oak          @wunder islamabad
06:27 huginn       Oak: The current temperature in Islamabad Airport, Pakistan is 16.0�C (11:00 AM PKT on December 20, 2011). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 31%. Dew Point: 3.0�C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa.
06:42 francharb    morning #koha
06:50 cait         hi francharb :)
07:11 alex_a       morning #koha
07:14 Oak          Bonjour alex_a :)
07:17 alex_a       Bonjour Oak
07:21 magnuse      kia ora #koha
07:21 Oak          magnuse
07:22 magnuse      Oak
07:31 cait         hi magnuse
07:32 magnuse      guten morgen cait
07:54 matts        hello biblibre
07:54 matts        oups
07:54 matts        hello #koha !
07:54 magnuse      ooh, love it when there are 4 variants of the same string to be translated...
07:54 magnuse      bonjour matts ;-)
07:54 matts        ^^
07:56 julian_m     hi
07:58 magnuse      bonjour julian_m
07:58 julian_m     hello magnuse
07:58 reiveune     hello
08:03 AmitG        heya reivenue
08:09 gaetan_B     hello
08:14 rangi        heya france
08:14 rangi        and norway
08:19 asaurat      hi!
08:22 magnuse      hiya nz
08:25 kf           hi again #koha
08:29 hdl          hi
08:32 rangi        heya hdl and kf
08:47 huginn       New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7266] overdue.pl : filter on flags "debarred" "suspended" and "gonenoaddress" not working <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7266>
08:49 kf           heya rangi
09:11 kf           wb matts :)
09:33 AmitG        heya gaetan_B
09:34 gaetan_B     hi AmitG!
09:38 AmitG        heya hdl
09:47 hdl          hi AmitG
11:48 magnuse      @wunder boo
11:48 huginn       magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -1.0�C (12:20 PM CET on December 20, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: -4.0�C. Windchill: -7.0�C. Pressure: 29.47 in 998 hPa (Steady).
12:07 huginn       New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7247] rebuild_zebra.pl -v should show all Zebra log output <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7247>
12:25 slef         ISIL?
12:26 slef         damn it where's wahanui?
12:27 slef         hi wizzyrea
12:27 kf           oh no
12:27 kf           wahanui is missing
12:27 kf           slef: was the question what an isil is?
12:28 kf           international standart interlibrary loan something
12:28 slef         nah, I was just after a link to the codes
12:28 kf           ah, I think it dependson the country
12:28 slef         http://www.loc.gov/marc/organizations/ suffices
12:28 slef         not the same but most MARC code issuers are ISIL ones too I think
12:28 kf           which does not make it easier to find them out, I tried a while ago for a list of libraries from multiple countries
12:28 kf           yes
12:29 kf           for germany the isil stems from the national sigel
12:29 slef         http://www.loc.gov/marc/organizations/org-search.php ?
12:29 kf           what are you looking for?
12:29 kf           a list of all? or only uk?
12:29 slef         various random stuff, sadly
12:29 slef         but the search works for me
12:30 slef         it was just that wahanui is better than google
12:30 kf           most of the time :)
12:30 slef         yeah not as stable though
12:30 slef         anyone here trying yacy BTW>
12:30 slef         ?
12:30 jcamins_away slef: OCLC has a list somewhere hard to find, I think.
12:32 slef         jcamins_away: isn't that true of most things? ;)
12:32 jcamins_away slef: yes.
13:42 Raj          Hello
13:57 jcamins      Nice chatting.
13:58 magnuse      probably just wanted to pop in and say hello...
13:59 nengard      heh
14:08 magnuse      o/
14:11 trea         o/
14:12 magnuse      \o
14:12 jcamins      \o/
14:13 magnuse      \o/
14:30 * magnuse    imagines trea talking to himself on the phone
14:30 jcamins      :)
14:31 trea         totally
14:31 jcamins      trea: did you have anything interesting to say?
14:31 jcamins      :)
14:32 trea         i was talking to myself about my theory of a donut shaped universe. naturally i told myself that was interesting, but ridiculous.
14:32 jcamins      Heh.
14:32 magnuse      lol
14:35 jcamins      I guess trea hung up on himself.
14:36 trea         that guy's crazy
14:52 gmcharlt     @quote random
14:52 huginn       gmcharlt: Quote #95: "< robin> to be honest, I think if you mention Koha and Perl, your CV could say your hobbies include puppy-kitten cage-fights, and you'd be snapped up :)" (added by chris at 09:36 PM, October 06, 2010)
14:57 magnuse      huh?
14:58 * magnuse    wanders off to dinner
15:05 wizzyrea     lol - where's my YMCA
15:06 wizzyrea     and good orning
15:06 wizzyrea     morning*
15:06 jcamins      Morning.
15:06 jcamins      wizzyrea: I'm glad I'm not the only one who thouhg that.
15:06 * wizzyrea   loves it
15:07 jcamins      *thought
15:14 trea         huginn seems to really love that quote for whatever reason.
15:14 huginn       trea: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready
15:14 jcamins      @quote random
15:14 huginn       jcamins: Quote #68: "gmcharlt: which probably means that library schools ought to rename Cataloging 101 to Identification and Avoidance of Rabbit Holes 101" (added by wizzyrea_laptop at 08:17 PM, March 10, 2010)
15:15 wizzyrea     ^^ that one always makes me laugh
15:15 wizzyrea     @quote random
15:15 huginn       wizzyrea: Quote #5: "<jwagner> Why is it every Koha rock I turn over produces a zillion (metaphorical) ants, each with a new question????" (added by kf at 01:13 PM, June 12, 2009)
15:29 wizzyrea     has anyone contacted indexdata about them linking to the other koha website in their documentation?
15:29 wizzyrea     I will but I didn't want to be redundant
15:54 Amu          Hi
15:54 Amu          Hi
15:54 jcamins      Hello.
15:55 Amu          Hi
15:56 maximep      Hi Hi Hi
16:15 jcamins      Project Muse is getting books.
16:34 rhcl_away    Project Muse - "Collapse and Uprising in Europe: The Right to Insolvency and the Disentanglement of the General Intellect's Potency" - I might actually try to read that one
16:35 rhcl_here    but I'm currently searching for a patch panel or small network room management best practices guide
16:35 rhcl_here    any recommendations?
16:36 edveal       How do I create an RSS for new books in Koha and then embed the RSS feed in a web page?
16:38 jcamins      edveal: nengard wrote something up about that.
16:38 jcamins      Basically you just do a search for all books and sort it by acquisition date.
16:38 wizzyrea     or copyright date
16:38 wizzyrea     depending on how you define "new books"
16:39 * wizzyrea   has experience with this argument
16:39 jcamins      edveal: but talk to wizzyrea about why embedding it in a web page is a bad idea.
16:40 edveal       wizzyrea: please explain!
16:40 wizzyrea     as an example
16:41 gaetan_B     bye
16:42 wizzyrea     I had a library with about 10 different RSS feeds configured in the wordpress RSS widget. Their internet went down, and when it came back up, the 15x computers all went to the library home page, and wordpress, seeing that the RSS hadn't been updated, fetched all of them, for every client, at the same time, crashing the server.
16:42 wizzyrea     that's an extreme case.
16:42 edveal       But I get it...
16:43 wizzyrea     1. they had too many feeds 2. they weren't being cached properly to deal with that 3. they all hit the home page at the same time 4. the server was underpowered to deal with 60x rss feed pulls at the same time
16:43 wizzyrea     or whatever the number is
16:43 jcamins      Time to mail some fudge.
16:43 wizzyrea     but you get the idea
16:44 wizzyrea     2 and 4 have been fixed ;)
16:46 wizzyrea     1. I can't do anything about, i have to let them do it.
16:46 wizzyrea     3. is coincidence
16:52 hdl          edveal: you may also use the cronjob rss.pl to produce the correct template.
16:53 hdl          edveal: see misc/cronjobs/rss/
16:53 hdl          And usage is quite straight forward.
16:54 wizzyrea     i've never used the rss job.
16:54 hdl          edveal: you have a README file in this directory.
16:54 sekjal       wizzyrea:  it's pretty great
16:54 edveal       OK
16:54 hdl          wizzyrea: it is quite handy.
16:54 sekjal       it's coded to handle more than just RSS
16:55 sekjal       anything you can write a query and a display template for, you can automatically generate a page
16:56 wizzyrea     neat.
16:59 wizzyrea     hm the documentation for that needs to be updated for TT
17:02 hdl          see ya
17:14 jcamins_away @later tell oleonard If you haven't received anything from me by the end of the year, let me know.
17:14 huginn       jcamins_away: The operation succeeded.
17:31 mbalmer      row level security is such a great feature of PostgreSQL ;)
17:35 maximep      :p
17:36 rangi        morning
17:38 maximep      hey =)
17:39 magnus_afk   kia ora rangi
17:41 jcamins_away Morning.
17:41 jcamins      rangi: have you started getting up earlier, or am I just starting my days later?
17:41 rangi        6.30 not much earlier
17:42 * jcamins    must be starting his days later.
17:51 rhcl_here    yea, I noticed rangi's apparent earlier hours too
17:52 jcamins      gmcharlt: around?
17:53 gmcharlt     jcamins: yep
17:55 jcamins      gmcharlt: sent you a PM.
17:55 rangi        right time to feed the kids
17:55 * jcamins    suggests that fudge probably isn't a good choice this early in the morning.
17:55 magnus_afk   let them eat cake!
17:57 gmcharlt     fudge cake!
17:57 jcamins      Mmm.
17:59 rhcl_here    hamburgers
17:59 jcamins      rhcl_here: fudgeburgers?
17:59 jcamins      Fudge patties on cake buns?
18:00 trea         001 for a title contains the control number, yes? is this number unique?
18:00 * trea       is not a cataloguer
18:01 jcamins      trea: yes, and no.
18:01 jcamins      trea: actually, let me revise that.
18:01 jcamins      trea: even odds, and, probably not.
18:02 jcamins      trea: it depends on the library.
18:02 jcamins      If you're lucky, they stuck OCLC numbers in 001.
18:02 jcamins      If you're even luckier, they actually have internally-assigned control numbers.
18:02 sekjal       Koha doesn't force uniqueness of 001.
18:03 jcamins      Right.
18:05 jcamins      trea: what are you trying to do with the 001?
18:06 trea         i'm not doing anything personally with it jcamins - i was just trying to get clarification.
18:06 cait         hi #koha
18:06 cait         :)
18:07 jcamins      trea: speaking of experts on the usage of 001 fields, here's cait!
18:07 jcamins      :D
18:07 cait         ohoh
18:08 jcamins      cait: trea is trying to understand the usage of the 001 field.
18:08 cait         ok
18:08 cait         what's the question?
18:08 cait         I am still thawing
18:08 cait         was at the xmas market :)
18:08 jcamins      cait: goodness, lots of Christmas shopping!
18:08 cait         and hot chocolate :)
18:08 * jcamins    just has one more batch of fudge to make and a dozen or so loaves of bread.
18:09 cait         I thik my fudge project has to wait for next year
18:09 jcamins      Aww.
18:09 cait         will have no time this week
18:09 * jcamins    sends virtual fudge.
18:10 cait         so, the question?
18:11 jcamins      cait: not sure.
18:11 jcamins      cait: trea was trying to figure something out.
18:12 trea         i think the question has been answered cait. thanks anyway
18:12 cait         ohok
18:14 jcamins      sekjal: marcelr: magnuse: if anyone gets a chance, bug 7311 is waiting for QA.
18:14 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7311 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED , Error when records have UNIMARC 461$0 or 773$0 for something other than bibnumber
18:15 sekjal       jcamins: thanks; will look if I can snag a little time.  may need to wait for the New Year, though
18:15 jcamins      sekjal: it should be pretty quick.
18:15 jcamins      sekjal: just figured I ought to point it out, given how quickly these things change.
18:16 cait         I think is a blocker for our move to 3.6.x
18:16 cait         so I support jcamins request
18:17 jcamins      cait: an extra sign-off might make it more compelling. :)
18:17 cait         I can try, but no promises
18:17 jcamins      cait: it's already signed-off.
18:17 cait         and I am ont sure it really will make it more compelling... lots of other things waiting for the first sign-off
18:18 jcamins      cait: so it's mostly waiting for QA. But, if a second sign-off makes it more compelling for QA, might as well, right? ;)
18:19 sekjal       looks like it just adding a conditional check around some Analytics code
18:19 jcamins      sekjal: yup.
18:34 rangi        back
18:34 * cait       waves
18:35 jcamins      Kids fed?
18:35 slef         fed to what?
18:36 jcamins      slef: the great fudgeburger.
18:36 rangi        the penguins
18:36 slef         Tux sacrifices - the best thing to do with your kids this xmas
18:37 rangi        on phone so can't easy look, but there are 2 bugs to do with caching and webservices, signed off, but need qa
18:37 rangi        I plan to use them for the os academy kids to build some funky widgets
18:38 slef         bug 7248
18:38 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7248 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Caching for services
18:38 rangi        (they let you mark a report public/private and cache the results, then fetch those results as json)
18:38 slef         bug 7249
18:38 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7249 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Report webservices
18:38 rangi        thanks slef
18:38 slef         thanks huginn
18:38 slef         I was using @query in a /query
18:39 rangi        ahh
18:40 rangi        it also could be used to do new books in opac etc, with no cronjobs needed just a report
18:40 jcamins      rangi: oh, already signed-off.
18:40 jcamins      I was going to tell you that I just looked for things I could sign off, and didn't see anything I could handle, but that would be why.
18:41 sekjal       rangi:  public reports, eh?  pretty nifty
18:42 rangi        hmm there are a bunch by robin that might be worth looking at jcamins if you had time
18:42 rangi        also
18:42 jcamins      rangi: I just looked at needs signoff. Might've missed, I suppose.
18:42 rangi        I found out there is an nz style pie bakery in brooklyn
18:42 jcamins      Or you may be thinking of the ones that are assigned to Robin where I wrote a follow-up patch, and now it's waiting for Robin's signoff.
18:43 jcamins      Ooooh. Where?
18:43 rangi        I forget the name but its in my browser at work
18:43 rangi        will find it for u
18:43 jcamins      :)
18:44 rangi        and ill look, if those are urs awaiting sign off I can sign
18:44 rangi        im running out of ones to sign, lots of catalyst ones waiting
18:44 cait         hey
18:44 cait         I did one this morning!
18:44 cait         :)
18:44 cait         can try to do more tonight, but first need tea
18:45 rangi        :?
18:45 jcamins      rangi: yeah, bug 6913 has a follow-up that needs signing.
18:45 rangi        :) even
18:45 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6913 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, NEW , Improving koha-list and koha-create
18:45 rangi        ahh cool ill look
18:45 jcamins      Thanks.
18:45 jcamins      rangi++
18:56 rangi        @wunder wellington nz
18:56 huginn       rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 13.0�C (7:00 AM NZDT on December 21, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 30.39 in 1029 hPa (Rising).
19:01 rangi        my stop bbiab
19:09 rangi        back
19:09 jcamins      rangi: no coffee?
19:11 rangi        ill make one in a bit (we have 2 espresso machines at work)
19:16 rangi        also
19:16 rangi        http://soundcloud.com/bobby-c-sound-tv/shut-em-down-bobby-c-sound-tv
19:46 rangi        right thats new oneric packages built for koha
19:46 jcamins      Woohoo!
19:46 rangi        https://launchpad.net/~koha/+archive/koha-stable
19:46 rangi        https://launchpad.net/~koha/+archive/ppa
19:47 rangi        second one is master
19:54 cait         rangi++
20:38 Brooke       kia ora
20:46 Brooke       wb sekjal
20:46 sekjal       howdy, Brooke
20:46 Brooke       sup?
20:47 sekjal       wrapping up tickets and developments before year's end
20:47 Brooke       good on you!
20:47 * sekjal     is very happy with this SQL for getting items that need overdue notifications set (according to triggers)
20:47 Brooke       sweet
20:48 sekjal       could be applied to overdue_notices.pl, and greatly simplify the whole thing, I think
20:48 Brooke       yahoo
20:57 cait         sekjal: does it account for holidays?
20:57 cait         that's one big problem for us with overdues
20:58 sekjal       no, it doesn't
20:58 cait         we don't want overdue notices to be sent out when the library has closed, but similar to fines on the next possible opening day or not count the holidays
20:58 sekjal       it just looks at the days overdue the material is
20:58 sekjal       and if that's the same as one of the delay triggers, places it in the "send" file
21:02 talljoy      heya!   I am running bulkmarcimport.pl for authorities  -a -file=filename -v -match=010 and I am getting an error http://pastebin.com/mkafc9M7
21:03 cait         sekjal: hm
21:03 cait         so the value for the delay trigger could be calculated differentl
21:03 cait         y
21:03 cait         hm no
21:04 cait         I think I am too tired to figure out how it should work
21:04 cait         dates always confuse me
21:04 sekjal       cait: I did it all with pure SQL
21:04 Brooke       go to sleep?
21:04 cait         yeah soon
21:04 sekjal       well, MySQL's SQL, as mbalmer would surely point out
21:04 sekjal       uses TO_DAYS()
21:04 * Brooke     never gets to say that to cait. >:)
21:05 jcamins      talljoy: you're missing part of the match command.
21:05 jcamins      Should be [010 index name],010
21:08 * jcamins    returns with more bad news for talljoy.
21:08 jcamins      talljoy: there is no index on 010.
21:09 sekjal       LC-cardnumber
21:09 jcamins      Probably should be.
21:09 jcamins      sekjal: that's on bibs.
21:10 sekjal       oh!
21:10 talljoy      ok.  perldoc says i can use any field from 001 to 999   is it lying to me?
21:10 sekjal       nevermind,then
21:10 jcamins      talljoy: you can, but you can't match *existing* records without an index.
21:10 talljoy      sigh.
21:11 jcamins      talljoy: I'll give you even odds that you can match DLC records on Local-Number,001
21:12 talljoy      yes, but that may cause issues with vtplag records.
21:12 jcamins      Definitely will.
21:12 jcamins      However, having two matches will cause issues anyway.
21:12 talljoy      okay  where is documentation on the correct use of match in import?
21:12 jcamins      talljoy: I don't think it is documented. I just figured it out by reading the code.
21:14 talljoy      i guess i'm not seeing that
21:14 jcamins      build_simplequery
21:14 jcamins      Line 391.
21:16 mbalmer      sekjal, I think I have a plan to overcome that mysql desaster.
21:19 talljoy      can i create an index on authorities?  what am in indexing when i reindex them?
21:19 jcamins      talljoy: you could.
21:20 talljoy      why didn't you say so.  that certainly helps my case here.
21:20 jcamins      talljoy: use authority-koha-indexdefs.xml and then do the transformation.
21:20 talljoy      lol
21:20 talljoy      i will create index, reindex, reference index on import and voila.  right?
21:20 jcamins      That's the principle.
21:21 rangi        jcamins: testing 6800 now
21:21 jcamins      rangi++
21:21 Brooke       morena rangi
21:21 rangi        hiya Brooke
21:21 rangi        unit_tests++
21:21 rangi        jcamins++
21:25 jcamins      rangi: the unit tests are a bit contrived, but I can imagine a situation where someone modifying the subroutine broke it.
21:25 rangi        yep
21:26 rangi        we could write some www::mechanize ones
21:26 rangi        to test it properly, by faking headers
21:26 rangi        but these will at least catch someone breaking that subroutine
21:26 jcamins      That'd be excellent.
21:29 rangi        ok, i can still login with the patch, first test passed :)
21:29 jcamins      :)
21:30 talljoy      I am adding a custom index for authorities.  add to record.abs, authority-koha-indexdefs.xml   anywhere else?
21:33 jcamins      talljoy: not record.abs.
21:33 jcamins      talljoy: see the documentation in one of the XSL files.
21:34 talljoy      ok
21:34 jcamins      No, in the xml file.
21:37 talljoy      i put this in the authority-koha-indexdefs.xml file
21:37 talljoy      <!-- 010 -->
21:37 talljoy      <kohaidx:index_subfields tag="010" subfields="a">
21:37 talljoy      <kohaidx:target_index>LOCNumber</kohaidx:targe_index>
21:37 talljoy      </kohaidx:index_subfields>
21:37 talljoy      i fixed the typo in target though....
21:38 jcamins      talljoy: LOCNumber?
21:38 talljoy      a new index
21:38 talljoy      i suppose i could put it in local-number
21:38 jcamins      Nope, can't use local-number.
21:39 talljoy      okay then so what's the problem with calling it LOCNumber?
21:39 jcamins      talljoy: I see the bib-1 attributes aren't specified for Authorities.
21:39 jcamins      I'd call it LC-card-number, for consistency.
21:40 jcamins      That's attribute 9.
21:40 talljoy      fine.  i can call it goose egg for all i care.
21:40 jcamins      :)
21:40 Brooke       why isn't it LCCN by default?
21:40 talljoy      who knows Brooke?
21:41 jcamins      Brooke: 'cause LC hates consistency?
21:41 Brooke       of course.
21:41 Brooke       what was I thinking.
21:41 * jcamins    has no idea.
21:42 talljoy      so back to the original question.  is that the only place i need to put it?  when I create a custom index for biblios i put it in records.abs and bib1.att and ccl.properties
21:42 talljoy      is the process the same for authorities
21:42 talljoy      ?
21:42 jcamins      bib1.att.
21:43 jcamins      Not sure about ccl.properties.
21:43 talljoy      i still don't see why i don't have to put it in the authorities records.abs file
21:44 jcamins      'Cause GRS-1 indexing for authorities is... ugh.
21:44 rangi        right
21:44 * jcamins    revises that statement: GRS-1 indexing. Ugh.
21:45 * jcamins    delivers his address "Searches in the hands of an ugly GRS-1 indexing configuration" in the tradition of Jonathan Edwards.
21:47 pastebot     "rangi" at pasted "Testing 6800" (24 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/160
21:48 jcamins      rangi: cool! I didn't know you could test that without having a proxy set up.
21:49 rangi        yup
21:49 rangi        curl is cool
21:49 rangi        you can fake whatever headers you want
21:49 rangi        which is why you should never trust them
21:49 rangi        or referers ;)
21:49 jcamins      Right.
21:50 * jcamins    didn't make up the rule that Koha should use remote IP for authentication.
21:50 rangi        well its remote ip coupled with a valid session
21:50 jcamins      Right.
21:50 mbalmer      remote IP is not secure
21:50 jcamins      Indeed it is not.
21:50 rangi        thats why we dont use it by itself
21:50 mbalmer      good
21:51 rangi        we check that your ip doesnt change during your session though
21:51 mbalmer      128 bit random number, plus IP, and such games ;)
21:51 jcamins      rangi: yeah, but as long as sessions are keyed to remote IP, it would be best not to have conniptions when someone with a non-transparent corporate proxy connects.
21:51 rangi        exactly
21:52 rangi        im happy to sign off on this, doesnt break existing behaviour and works fine when coming from a different ip, but with X For Header set
21:52 jcamins      Woohoo!
21:53 jcamins      It seemed a shame to just give up on it, given that other people may encounter a similar problem.
21:53 jcamins      (I managed to work around it, eventually)
21:55 rangi        *nod*
21:55 rangi        ill add the testing instructions to the bug too
21:55 jcamins      Thanks.
21:55 jcamins      Yeah, your method was a lot easier than mine.
21:55 rangi        im too lazy to install squid :)
21:58 jcamins      Woohoo! I think that was the last patch of mine that needed signoff!
22:02 rangi        sweet!
22:02 rangi        merry christmas :)
22:03 maximep      I wish I had time to fix my patches that got rejected :/
22:03 rangi        were they failed qa, or did not apply ones?
22:03 maximep      latest was not apply from you
22:04 rangi        if you want i can take a crack at rebasing it for you
22:04 rangi        if you give me a bug number
22:04 maximep      bug 6832
22:04 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6832 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, pelletiermaxime, ASSIGNED , Validation of total > budget in neworderempty
22:05 jcamins      Oh, wait. Bug 1633 hasn't been signed off yet. That one hasn't been outstanding for nearly as long, though.
22:05 maximep      i think it's a pretty big bug fix
22:05 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1633 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, kmkale, ASSIGNED , Add ability to take book cover images from local img db
22:05 rangi        ah yeah merge conflict
22:05 rangi        lemme see how scary it is
22:05 maximep      yeah that file always has conflicts
22:06 maximep      well, not always -_-
22:06 rangi        hmm small
22:07 pastebot     "rangi" at pasted "<<<<<<< HEAD } ff.submit(); ==" (21 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/161
22:07 rangi        i reckon just replace the top bit by the bottom bit eh?
22:07 rangi        its only a whitespace conflict afaict
22:07 rangi        if you agree ill fix and put it back into needs signoff
22:08 maximep      sure
22:08 maximep      that would be great =)
22:10 rangi        done
22:10 rangi        and because its acquisitions cait will probably test it when she wakes up :)
22:10 jcamins      rangi: question about bug 5166. I had a note that you said something about there being another implementation that was safer?
22:10 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5166 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, tomascohen, ASSIGNED , Reintroduce a zebraqueue daemon, make several rebuild_zebra.pl functions a lib
22:11 rangi        oh
22:12 rangi        no i just was muttering about hating POE
22:12 rangi        and that we should use libevent
22:12 jcamins      rangi: but there isn't actually an alternative?
22:12 rangi        not that i know of
22:13 jcamins      Okay, thanks.
22:18 sekjal       night, #koha!
22:19 maximep      thanks rangi !
22:19 huginn       New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6832] Validation of total > budget in neworderempty <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6832>
22:44 rangi        http://www.flickr.com/photos/ranginui/6545893009/in/photostream
22:50 rangi        hmm is www.biblibre.com down for others?
22:56 ibeardslee   http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/www.biblibre.com
22:56 jcamins      Down for me as well.
23:32 talljoy      okay jcamins.  i added the LC-card-number to the authority-koha-indexdefs.xml (LC-card-number:w) and bib1.att  (att 9  LC-card-number)  and  perl ~/kohaclone/misc/migration_tools/bulkmarcimport.pl -a -file=AUTH.mrc -v -match="LC-card-number,010a" process 0 MARC records??
23:32 jcamins      talljoy: that seems to me it should work.
23:33 talljoy      me too.  it seems to at least not barf on index name.
23:33 talljoy      seems like there is nothing in the index, though.
23:33 jcamins      Did you reindex the authorities?
23:33 talljoy      yes, but of course (in my best grey poupon voice_
23:33 jcamins      Just checking.
23:34 talljoy      :)
23:34 jcamins      Stick a warn in bulkmarcimport, see what it's doing?
23:34 talljoy      i'd rather see if the index is valid first, but i'm thinking that is harder?
23:35 jcamins      talljoy: I never remember how to use yaz-client.
23:35 talljoy      i've never learned :-/
23:35 * jcamins    has to run, actually.
23:35 jcamins      Good luck!