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02:37 rangi and we're back
02:38 jcamins_away rangi: Internet connection problems at home?
02:39 rangi power outage
02:39 rangi internet came back, the server didnt
02:40 jcamins_away Ah. Yep, that'll do it.
02:40 jcamins_away Hm. lianza.org.nz is not doing well.
02:41 * jcamins_away goes to make more fudge while he waits for the page to load.
02:44 * jcamins_away hopes oleonard likes pomegranate and coconut.
03:16 AmitG heya bag :d
03:39 kmkale Namaskaar #koha
03:41 rangi hi AmitG and kmkale
03:42 kmkale Namaste rangi :)
03:44 AmitG heya rangi, kmkale
03:47 kmkale Namaste AmitG :)
04:56 cait good morning #koha
04:59 kmkale hi cait :
04:59 kmkale )
04:59 cait hi kmkale :)
05:49 jcamins_away kmkale: around still?
05:49 kmkale yep
05:56 cait hi trea and jcamins_away
05:56 cait why are you all awake?
05:56 trea hi cait
05:56 trea working
05:56 trea what are you up to?
05:56 jcamins_away cait: wrapping fudge.
05:56 jcamins_away Going to sleep now.
05:57 cait xmas presents?
05:57 cait sleep well
05:57 * cait goes to cut brownies
05:58 rangi wow trea is up late
05:58 trea hey rangi
05:59 rangi im just waiting for my 2 to put their jammies on to put them to bed
06:00 trea :D how's atarau?
06:24 rangi much better spots almost all gone
06:24 rangi kahu in bed, stories read
06:25 rangi atarau trying to bargain
06:31 rangi I hunry
06:31 cait heh
06:31 rangi thats his latest trick
06:33 alex_a morning koha !
06:34 rangi hi alex_a
06:34 cait hi alex_a :)
06:34 alex_a :)
06:36 * cait puts some misshaped brownies in the middle of #koha
06:38 magnuse kia ora #koha
06:39 magnuse brownies for breakfast - yum!
06:40 magnuse "The latest and greatest version of the WordPress software � 3.3, named �Sonny� in honor of the great jazz saxophonist Sonny Stitt" ;-)
06:40 cait morning magnuse :)
06:40 magnuse guten morgen cait
06:40 alex_a kia ora magnuse
06:41 magnuse bonjour alex_a
07:35 reiveune hello
07:49 julian_m hi
07:49 cait hi julian_m and reiveune :)
07:49 cait and bbiab
07:49 julian_m hi cait !
07:50 reiveune hi cait and everybody
07:50 rangi hi julian_m and reiveune
07:57 julian_m hi rangi
08:06 sophie_m hi #koha
08:12 rangi hi sophie_m
08:13 gaetan_B hello
08:13 rangi hi gaetan_B and hdl
08:21 rangi @later tell paul_p i added a patch to bug 7215 to stop jenkins complaining
08:21 huginn` rangi: The operation succeeded.
08:22 AmitG heya gaten_b, hdl
08:29 rangi hi paul_p and wb hdl
08:29 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7215] callnumber versus itemcallnumber <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7215>
08:29 hdl hi
08:29 wahanui bonjour, hdl
08:30 paul_p hi rangi
08:31 paul_p rangi, about jenkins:
08:31 paul_p 1- will deal with 7215 in the next minutes
08:32 rangi cool
08:32 paul_p 2- any idea why XISBN sometimes fail and sometimes don't ?
08:32 rangi i think its when 2 are running at the same time
08:32 paul_p 2 builds ?
08:32 rangi ie koha 3.6 or 3.4 ran, and inserted an isbn
08:33 rangi then the master text cant insert it, so fails, but then deletes it, so the next run works
08:33 rangi so they probably need their own database
08:34 rangi thats my guess anyway
08:37 rangi hey magnuse
08:37 wahanui magnuse is afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza.
08:37 magnuse hehe - hiya rangi
08:37 magnuse no pizza today, though
08:38 rangi http://findingheroes.co.nz/2011/12/13/new-ways-of-talking-maori-and-technology/
08:38 francharb hello
08:38 magnuse bonjour francharb
08:39 rangi hi francharb
08:40 magnuse rangi: cool! GLAM? i suppose L=libraries A=archives M=museums, but G=? government?
08:41 rangi galleries
08:41 magnuse ah
08:43 magnuse i have a tiny gallery that is interested in maybe using koha for their ~1000 books, i think they will decide sometime in december
08:43 rangi cool :)
08:43 Oak kia ora @koha
08:43 magnuse Oak
08:43 Oak oh
08:43 Oak magnuse
08:43 Oak :)
08:48 magnuse this is fun: http://paper.li/mikromarc - mikromarc is a norwegian proprietary ils and bibits is the company behind it. they follow kohails (and maybe me) on twitter, so they regularly highlight stories about koha in their paper.li daily news thingy ;-)
08:49 rangi heh
09:10 paul_p great ! in France, the minimum for public RFP go from 4k€ to 15k€ ! + no need to provide administratives documents if you've already submitted an RFP this year ! Sometimes, our gov has good ideas ( simplicity++ )
09:10 paul_p s/submitted an RFP/submitted an answer to RFP/
09:11 asaurat hey :) could someone maybe try to sign off the bug 6917 ? shouldn't be too long (acquisition report)
09:11 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6917 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED , Acquisitions reports: Dates filters doesn't work when they are not selected on row or column
09:13 rangi ill have a look asaurat
09:14 asaurat thx!
09:26 rangi hmm
09:33 rangi yep that should work as long as we never change the order of the form fields
09:39 rangi down to 87
09:39 asaurat indeed, thanks
09:40 magnuse wow, that's awesome, rangi!
09:42 rangi thank the tv for bad shows that i dont want to watch
09:42 magnuse thank you nz tv! ;-)
09:59 rangi ok, sleep time
10:00 magnuse good night rangi
10:00 asaurat bye rangi!
10:41 AmitG heya magnuse
10:41 magnuse namaste AmitG
10:41 AmitG today date is 13 12 11
10:41 magnuse heh!
10:45 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7350] In New order the "+" button duplicates input text but not the "selected" in ddl <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7350>
11:53 kf hi #koha
11:59 fabio_t hi kf
12:03 mbalmer ola #koha!
12:12 Oak oye kf1
12:12 Oak Good Afternoon
12:12 Oak :)
12:12 * Oak goes to the kitchen...
12:14 * kmkale is feeling hungry too
12:16 mbalmer besides more ram (which I can not install for technical reasons), are there good tunig possibilities that noticeably speed up a Koha default installation?
12:17 Oak what technical reasons mbalmer ?
12:18 Oak RAM is the bottleneck of the processor...
12:18 mbalmer it did not like my RAM, didn't even boot.
12:18 mbalmer top shows that plenty of RAM is not being used.
12:18 Oak you need to match the bus speed with what your motherboard wants
12:19 Oak you are on Ubuntu?
12:20 mbalmer debian squeeze 6.0.3
12:21 Oak you know the chipset of your motherboard?
12:22 mbalmer I could find it out. But I am more interested in how to tune a Koha installation in general.
12:22 Oak ah okay.
12:22 Oak someone will help you with that
12:22 mbalmer easy enough to take a bigger machine ;)
12:22 Oak i think there is a wiki article about it
12:23 mbalmer ahy es, there is
12:23 Oak http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_Tuning
12:23 Oak http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_Tuning_Guide
12:23 kmkale mbalmer: Using memcached?
12:23 * kmkale can spot atleast two links on http://koha-community.org/documentation/other-docs/ that are dead
12:24 mbalmer most tuning seems mysql related.
12:25 Oak hmm
12:25 mbalmer hopefully I don't need that anymore in the (maybe not so)distant future
12:25 Oak how much RAM you have bye the way?
12:25 mbalmer 768MB
12:25 Oak how many users will access the OPAC at any time?
12:26 mbalmer it's a test/development installation, only 3 uers max.
12:26 mbalmer mod_perl could help, but it seems not to work with Koha well
12:27 Oak hmm 768 is probably fine then,
12:28 Oak depends
12:29 Oak lspci command will tell you useful information about your hardware. lspci -v or lspci -vv will tell even more
12:34 kmkale mbalmer: have you tried usiing memcached server with Koha? Koha install asks you about this. It gives a nice performance boost..
12:35 mbalmer I used the koha-common package and koha-create.
12:35 mbalmer so I guess I have to install it by hand
12:35 mbalmer memcached is running, but I dunno it Koha uses it.
12:42 * kmkale has never installed it through packages but is sure there must be a way to configure Koha to use memcached post install.
12:42 kmkale a mail to the list might help :)
12:47 mbalmer kmkale, I will soon reinstall from the git master branch, removing the package version
12:47 kmkale mbalmer: great then you can use memcached
12:57 tcohen hi #koha
13:01 jcamins_away kmkale: splitting the patch now. :)
13:03 kmkale jcamins: don't you sleep? I was in office when we last chatted and I am still in office when you have woken up and are back to work :(
13:03 jcamins kmkale: yes I do, I was sleeping in between our last conversation and this one. :)
13:04 kmkale hah :-D
13:04 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7245] Errors in MySQL tables population with mandatory data for italian installation <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7245>
13:04 * kmkale must leave office & get home more frequently
13:05 jcamins kmkale: that sounds like an excellent idea. :)
13:06 jcamins Yesterday my wife and I went out for a drink after work. It was lovely.
13:07 hdl mbalmer all you have to do is install the memcached server, and declare in koha-conf.xml
13:09 mbalmer <memcached_servers>127.0.0.1</memcached_servers>, is that enough?
13:09 mbalmer obviously not!
13:14 jcamins kmkale: I've decided to give you credit for the Intranet display code and not the installation, because my git-fu isn't strong enough to split things up the way I had initially planned.
13:21 hdl mbalmer: you need to tell the memcached_namespace (say: KOHA for instance)
13:21 hdl and that's all.
13:21 hdl <memcached_servers>127.0.0.1:11211</memcached_servers>
13:22 hdl <memcached_namespace>KOHA</memcached_namespace>
13:22 mbalmer yeah, I was missing the IP address
13:22 mbalmer I wonder if Koha can deal with IPv6...
13:23 mbalmer memcached doesn' really speed up my installation, but at least I see now that memcached is being used.
13:24 mbalmer average response time is ~1sec
13:24 hdl mbalmer: memcached is not meant for speed.
13:24 hdl mbalmer: it is meant for scalability
13:33 oleonard Hi #koha
13:42 jcamins Oh, drat! I forgot to sign off.
13:43 hdl magnuse: around ?
13:43 magnuse hdl: yup
13:46 jcamins kmkale: patches are ready for your sign-off.
13:46 jcamins kmkale: wait, no they're not.
13:46 * jcamins messed something up.
13:48 * jcamins fixed it.
13:53 * kmkale gets ready to spend the night in office
13:53 jcamins kmkale: aww. :(
13:54 kmkale jcamins: Its nothing unknown ;)
13:59 jcamins oleonard: I attached new patches to bug 1633. The code is identical to what you already have, it's just split up into two patches.
13:59 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1633 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, kmkale, ASSIGNED , Add ability to take book cover images from local img db
13:59 oleonard Thanks jcamins, I wondered. Why the split?
14:01 jcamins oleonard: kmkale wrote a bunch of the code, so we wanted to make sure he got credit.
14:01 oleonard Oh good
14:20 oleonard Now I know where we can go to create new sound cues for Koha: http://www.bfxr.net/
14:24 magnuse oleonard: knock yourself out ;-)
14:28 chris_n paul_p: what's up with unstable master
14:29 * chris_n considers leaving bug 7215 out of 3.6.x until a patch to fix the test is submitted
14:29 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7215 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, brendan, ASSIGNED , callnumber versus itemcallnumber
14:31 paul_p chris_n, i'll push the patch in a few minuts. I just group my push to master, to have jenkins doing tests not just for a tiny patch.
14:33 chris_n paul_p: going forward, I do not plan on cherry-picking any commit which breaks a test until a patch has been committed to fix the test
14:33 paul_p chris_n, pushing master now (then continuing QAing & pushing small patches)
14:33 * chris_n thinks a similar policy for master would not be amiss
14:34 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6663: Features for holidays.pl with datepicker <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=806fac60f466b79d9c60023df4425b134040bfdc> / welcome Fabio, you're 165th ! <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=53141e7f4966fa3f134442087cdf835b261f476a> / Bug 7245 Tables population with mandatory data for italian installation <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=com
14:34 paul_p chris_n, pushed ;-)
14:35 chris_n fantastic!
14:35 pastebot "nengard" at 98.114.30.184 pasted "need report help" (36 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/146
14:35 nengard anyone around who can give me some pointers on the above report?
14:35 paul_p chris_n, partially agreeing = I do some tests before pushing, but jenkins is here to run all the tests.
14:36 * chris_n consults jenkins prior to beginning to cherry-pick :-)
14:36 chris_n and runs all tests prior to pushing
14:41 oleonard Comment on k-c.org: "I want to know about koha software.Is it possible please give me users mail id or phone numer."
14:41 oleonard clueless and for real, or spam?
14:42 jenkins_koha Starting build 23 for job Koha_3.6.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
14:42 jcamins oleonard: even odds.
14:42 jenkins_koha Starting build 567 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #564 23 h ago)
14:42 Oak oleonard, weird
14:45 nengard kf1 jcamins anyone: "need report help" (36 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/146
14:46 magnuse oleonard: an attempt at phising a la "please give me your password"
14:46 magnuse ?
14:48 jcamins nengard: try selecting SUM(accountlines.amountoutstanding) and removing the HAVING clause.
14:48 chris_n so much for HAVING what you like ;-)
14:48 jcamins nengard: I'm wondering what the results you get will look like.
14:50 nengard jcamins it says invalid use of group function
14:51 pastebot "jcamins" at 98.14.120.176 pasted "nengard: this query fails?" (15 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/147
14:51 jcamins (with the invalid use of group function error)
14:53 nengard thanks jcamins
14:53 nengard that doesn't fail
14:53 nengard we'll see if it works for them
14:54 jcamins :)
14:55 nengard oh jcamins
14:55 nengard you're not getting to see if the outstanding amount is zero
14:55 nengard when i added that check it gave the group error
14:55 chris_n fwiw: a full run of all tests takes 3:18
14:56 mbalmer re
14:56 mbalmer ls
14:56 pastebot "nengard" at 98.114.30.184 pasted "jcamins this gives an error" (15 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/148
14:56 jcamins nengard: there's no amount showing up in my query?
14:57 nengard there is no check to make sure that amount is zero
14:57 jcamins nengard: that's correct.
14:57 nengard i need the check
14:57 nengard i need patrons who are expired and owe no money
14:57 jcamins We want to see that the result has something that looks something like 0.00.
14:57 libsysguy ahh jcamins why are you not using table aliases
14:58 jcamins libsysguy: 'cause I just copied and pasted nengard's code?
14:58 libsysguy or i guess that is nengard
14:58 libsysguy lol
14:58 nengard and i didn't cause i copied someone else's code
14:58 nengard usually i do use aliases :)
14:58 * libsysguy 's hair catches fire at the though of having to type all the table names
14:59 nengard i didn't type them :) hehe
14:59 nengard i copied and pasted them
14:59 * magnuse tries to quench the fire in libsysguy's hair
14:59 nengard hehe
14:59 libsysguy haha
14:59 nengard let me clean it up
15:00 chris_n libsysguy's hair?
15:00 chris_n or the query?
15:00 jcamins nengard: what do the results of the query I shared look like? Anywhere that outstanding = 0?
15:02 pastebot "nengard" at 98.114.30.184 pasted "report help" (19 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/149
15:02 nengard there cleaned up
15:02 nengard jcamins let me look
15:04 nengard jcamins outstanding is NULL for all my patrons on that report
15:04 jcamins nengard: okay, there's your problem.
15:04 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6803: Replacing remote XSL include <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5db33970410d5fb43bb1934513ec7d2741b18b3d> / Bug 6716 Update biblio & deletedbiblio tables <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c30f0e8e89a1299d3390a633c5a9baea8054592e> / Bug 6716 : Categories table <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3aa00f63131fdccba4bb57870bc86c
15:04 jcamins HAVING SUM(accountlines.amountoutstanding) IS NULL OR SUM(accountlines.amountoutstanding) = 0
15:05 libsysguy or you could put that sum in the select
15:05 libsysguy and save mysql a step
15:07 * oleonard wonders if this ever went anywhere http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/OPAC_Comments_RFC
15:07 mbalmer I'm good a PostgreSQL, but not good a Perl, anyone in the group with an interest in running Koha on PostgreSQL _and_ good Perl know-how that would like to work with me on this, eventually?
15:07 * libsysguy fails at Postgres
15:09 magnuse mbalmer: there has been lots of talk about abstracting the databaselayer to make koha work with more DBs, but not a lot of actual work, i think
15:09 libsysguy that would really be the right idea
15:09 libsysguy like a koha db driver
15:10 * kf1 waves
15:10 * magnuse waves back at kf1
15:10 * libsysguy o/ kf1
15:11 * magnuse thinks nengard probably got distracted away from bug 5503 ;-)
15:11 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5503 minor, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , comments shouldn't show patron's full name
15:11 kf1 hm
15:11 kf :)
15:11 magnuse yay
15:12 nengard magnuse HA!
15:12 kf there is a preference
15:12 nengard apparently I did
15:12 kf I did one
15:12 nengard kf there is a preference to show it or not
15:12 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7349] Sorting patron search result by cardnumber doesn't work <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7349>
15:12 kf ShowReviewerName or something
15:12 magnuse kf: yeah, that sounds familiar
15:12 mbalmer magnuse, well lets see what the future can bring in this regard. the start is already bad: It seems I threw away the only book on Perl I had ;)
15:12 nengard this one is about how we display the name
15:12 nengard Owen suggested "First and last name, First name, Last name, First name with Last Initial,
15:12 nengard none, nick, or login ID."
15:13 nengard and I agree - yes i was distracted
15:13 kf bug 5897
15:13 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5897 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Hide name of reviewer / comment writer in OPAC
15:13 nengard that's not a duplicate
15:13 nengard it's a different bug
15:13 kf oh
15:13 kf sorry
15:13 nengard the preference says show the name or don't show the name
15:13 kf had meetings all day
15:13 kf and now xmas party... :)
15:14 magnuse a fun day all round, then ;-)
15:14 mbalmer kf, have fun!
15:14 paul_p oleonard, are you about ?
15:14 kf thx
15:14 kf nice to get a break
15:15 kf discussing privacy laws all day
15:15 nengard anyone have ideas on bug 5501
15:15 paul_p if yes = an answer from you on http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6865 could result in a push ;-)
15:15 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5501 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , why is there a 'do not notify' option?
15:15 huginn` 04Bug 6865: enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Replace image-based gradient backgrounds with CSS3 gradients
15:15 kf nengard: because you can't unselect the checkboxes
15:15 kf apparently
15:16 kf oh you can
15:16 kf I am confused
15:16 * kf leaves to help decorating
15:16 kf bye all :)
15:16 magnuse have fun kf
15:16 kf nengard: and sorry for being confusing
15:16 nengard no prob :)
15:17 kf perhaps it's still a good idea - if a patron does not wnat to get them
15:17 kf it's more clear to check 'do not notify' in this case
15:17 kf so you could say, it's for when the patron does not want it, not when you just forgot to check them
15:19 oleonard paul_p: I tested in IE8 on Windows 7
15:19 wizzyrea nengard re 5501 - i'm with kf, I think that it's probably better to have it just so staff knows "Do. Not. Notify. This. Person."
15:19 paul_p OK, will push then, I tested IE7, should be enough
15:19 nengard fine with me wizzyrea, it was a library i was training that was confused by it :)
15:19 wizzyrea some people want to know definitively that they won't be notified.
15:19 wizzyrea people are weird. :)
15:20 wizzyrea (and wonderful)
15:20 wizzyrea (most of the time)
15:21 nengard WOO HOO so excited about bug 6663 being pushed!!!
15:21 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6663 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, christophe.croullebois, ASSIGNED , would be nice to put ranges of dates in the calendar
15:22 wizzyrea hehe yay!
15:22 magnuse yay!
15:24 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_6865' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b0e9423c2f94bfb9aac8b6b6d68fa2af38f5ef87> / bug 6917 Dates filters doesn't work when they are not selected on row or column <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9855b834b66bf4b3dc1edb36e1347997d5aded86> / Bug 6865 - Replace image-based gradient backgrounds with CSS3 gradients <http
15:25 nengard must go update the manual!!
15:25 nengard Oh wizzyrea since everytime I update the manual page on the Koha site I break it - can you add a link to the 3.8 work in progress manual? http://manual.koha-community.org/3.8/en/
15:25 nengard or tell me the secret to not breaking things?
15:27 hdl gmcharlt: any news on the rotatingcollections status ?
15:27 gmcharlt hdl: apropos of?
15:28 hdl gmcharlt: has there been any development on that part so that it comes part of the trunk...
15:28 hdl Or is it planned to stay a + feature ?
15:29 gmcharlt hdl: I don't think I have heard anything further from Kyle about specific plans to finish the feature
15:32 hdl gmcharlt: thanks. tables are still there in kohastructure and the code does call RotatingCollections iirc.
15:36 oleonard References in the templates to the rotating collections feature were removed for the 3.2 release. The code was left in on the assumption that more work was going to be done to make it usable
15:36 gmcharlt fwiw, unless somebody is willing and able now to poke at the existing rotating collections code, my vote would be to drop it
15:37 gmcharlt so that in the future, somebody who wants to make another go at it can start with a clean slate
15:37 wizzyrea well it's still in H:T:P isn't it?
15:37 oleonard The templates must have been converted, although not since tested
15:38 nengard @later tell eythian schemaspy needs updating with the new db documentation (it says it was last generated in september)
15:38 huginn` nengard: The operation succeeded.
15:41 wizzyrea oh, oleonard - I finished portal 1
15:41 jcamins Woohoo!
15:41 wizzyrea ^.^
15:42 * jcamins waits for a plate of brownies from wizzyrea to appear on his desk.
15:42 wizzyrea the brownies are a lie.
15:42 oleonard Congrats wizzyrea, now you are properly contextualized.
15:42 wizzyrea hehe
15:42 * oleonard just finished it last night again ;)
15:42 wizzyrea hehe I saw you playing on steam
15:42 wizzyrea my favorite is 18
15:43 wizzyrea lots of bouncing.
15:43 rhcl ?
15:43 * wizzyrea pats rhcl
15:43 jcamins rhcl: wizzyrea just built a portal for ILLing brownies.
15:43 jcamins And hamburgers, I suppose, if you really want.
15:44 magnuse inter library loan'ing?
15:44 rhcl OK, so "steam" + "18" + "bouncing" somehow leads to brownies?
15:44 jcamins magnuse: yes, my personal library doesn't have enough brownies, so I am ILLing them from elsewhere.
15:44 wizzyrea actually it leads to treat of death from neurotoxin. But that's beside the point.
15:45 wizzyrea s/treat/threat/
15:45 * oleonard was playing Portal when he should have been doing something productive
15:45 * wizzyrea too
15:45 * jcamins was being productive while watching the revival of Company- an entire batch of coconut fudge has been wrapped.
15:45 wizzyrea but it was fun
15:46 jcamins Still to wrap: a batch of pomegranate fudge.
15:46 wizzyrea O.o coconut fudge?
15:46 wizzyrea this is relevant to my interests
15:46 jcamins Still to make: peanut butter fudge, Irish cream fudge, and maybe raspberry fudge.
15:46 wizzyrea oh my
15:46 jcamins oleonard: are you allergic to peanut butter, Irish cream, or raspberry?
15:46 chris_n fresh coconut cake, anyone?
15:46 oleonard god forbid, jcamins!
15:46 * wizzyrea raisees her hand
15:46 * jcamins could be convinced.
15:47 jcamins Thank goodness wizzyrea has a portal for coconut cake ILL. :)
15:47 * oleonard moved his desk around and now his headphones don't reach his head
15:47 * oleonard considers this a setback
15:47 chris_n lol
15:47 nengard no more yummy food talk in #koha
15:47 nengard it's just mean!
15:47 nengard :)
15:47 jcamins :(
15:48 * oleonard talks about lettuce
15:48 nengard hehehe
15:48 wizzyrea http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.foodnetwork.co.uk%2Frecipes%2Fdevils-food-cheerio-chewies-ru325000.html&h=yAQFNGvzLAQEAv_P5ou_u_P_IaspFTU2rBoyOBFANhJOnvQ
15:48 libsysguy @later tell rangi I don't know if you like rap but if you do I think you might enjoy this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0B_R_IDtgU (Lupe Fiasco - Switch) (NSFL)
15:48 huginn` libsysguy: The operation succeeded.
15:48 jcamins Does that say... cheerios?
15:48 wizzyrea it does
15:48 nengard heh
15:48 * oleonard could listen to that if he crawled under his desk
15:48 wizzyrea I made those last night
15:49 jcamins Nifty!
15:49 nengard a fatty desert that lowers your cholestorol
15:49 chris_n lettuce smoothy?
15:49 nengard no the cheerios thing from wizzyrea :) hehe
15:49 chris_n s/smoothy/smoothie/
15:50 wizzyrea I left off the peanut butter chips and used dark chocolate chips instead - my mom made those when I was a kid
15:50 chris_n dark chocolate++
15:50 asaurat did you ever try a 99% cacao chocolate ?
15:51 wizzyrea sounds very bitter
15:51 asaurat it is :D
15:51 wizzyrea :D
15:51 magnuse i did - it's horrible!
15:51 jcamins asaurat: I have. It's a bit much.
15:51 wizzyrea i prefer somewhere around 70%
15:51 magnuse i still have the rest of it lying around i think - that says quite a lot...
15:51 asaurat wow, I wouldn't say horrible, it's interesting to try, but you wouldn't eat that everyday I guess :D
15:52 asaurat yeah 70% is goood
15:52 wizzyrea you could grind it up and use it to make other tasty things
15:52 wizzyrea thigns with lots of sugar :P
15:52 magnuse yup
15:52 wizzyrea and vanilla
15:56 oleonard well if schuster ever paid money on that comments RFC it didn't make it into the fork
16:07 kmkale @weather Thane
16:07 huginn` kmkale: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 29.0�C (9:10 PM IST on December 13, 2011). Conditions: Smoke. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: 18.0�C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady).
16:07 wizzyrea @wunder lawrence, ks
16:07 huginn` wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 4.7�C (10:07 AM CST on December 13, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 4.0�C. Windchill: 5.0�C. Pressure: 30.31 in 1026.3 hPa (Steady).
16:08 wizzyrea br.
16:09 oleonard My eight-year-old daughter is learning about Celsius vs Fahrenheit in school right now and I want to tell her she needs to know this so she can sympathize with IRC users' weather
16:09 wizzyrea hehe
16:09 magnuse oleonard++
16:09 magnuse @wunder boo
16:10 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 1.0�C (4:50 PM CET on December 13, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: -6.0�C. Windchill: -6.0�C. Pressure: 28.94 in 980 hPa (Steady).
16:10 wizzyrea br-er
16:10 magnuse getting warmer here, though
16:10 wizzyrea yea, it's gonna be in the teens here tomorrow
16:10 wizzyrea (C)
16:11 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.6.x build #23: SUCCESS in 1 h 28 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.6.x/23/
16:11 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Fix for Bug 7124 - back to search wrapping in lower resolutions
16:11 jenkins_koha * lrea: Bug 7159 - Add branchcode to circulation.pl search (take two, revising with Owen's suggestion)
16:11 jenkins_koha * gmc: bug 7198: show patron name in overdue list even if name column is null
16:11 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7082: Template improvements for better translatability
16:11 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7124 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Back to search wrapping in lower resolutions
16:11 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7159 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, wizzyrea, ASSIGNED , Add branchcode to circulation.pl search
16:11 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7198 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED , overdue report does not display patron name if firstname and/or surname are null
16:11 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7082 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED , Template improvements for better translatability
16:11 magnuse SUCCESS - woo hoo!
16:11 wizzyrea \o/ < always have to whenever 1. jenkins is happy and 2. happy with a patch of mine in there.
16:12 reiveune bye
16:12 magnuse yay!
16:14 jcamins kmkale++
16:20 nengard @wunder 19030
16:20 huginn` nengard: The current temperature in APRSWXNET Levittown PA US, Levittown, Pennsylvania is 3.9�C (10:42 AM EST on December 13, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: -4.0�C. Windchill: 4.0�C. Pressure: 30.29 in 1025.6 hPa.
16:20 nengard Brrrrrr
16:21 mbalmer xmas dinner, cul ;)
16:21 wizzyrea bye
16:22 rafasaad Hi all... Just a question: why callnumber (082) are disappearing from location column in staff results view when I change 082a number? I made changes in classification call number in biblio and item, but this information are disappearing...
16:22 jenkins_koha Yippie, build fixed!
16:22 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #567: FIXED in 1 h 40 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/567/
16:22 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 7215 : The Module changed, but the tests weren't updated to reflect that
16:22 jenkins_koha * f.demians: Bug 7245 Tables population with mandatory data for italian installation
16:22 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: welcome Fabio, you're 165th !
16:22 jenkins_koha * christophe.croullebois: Bug 6663: Features for holidays.pl with datepicker
16:22 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7215 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, brendan, ASSIGNED , callnumber versus itemcallnumber
16:22 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7245 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, ASSIGNED , Errors in MySQL tables population with mandatory data for italian installation
16:22 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6663 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, christophe.croullebois, ASSIGNED , would be nice to put ranges of dates in the calendar
16:23 jenkins_koha Starting build 568 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED)
16:23 wizzyrea rafasaad: which version are you running?
16:23 rafasaad 3.06.00
16:23 magnuse SUCCESS - woo hoo!
16:24 wizzyrea \o/
16:25 wizzyrea disappearing from the Call Number column?
16:26 wizzyrea isn't the call number that's displayed there usually the 942$o?
16:26 rafasaad from Location column in results page (staff)... Where we can see the name of the libraries and the callnumber between [ ]
16:26 oleonard the call number displayed there should be itemcallnumber I think
16:27 wizzyrea ^^ I think is the 942$o
16:27 wizzyrea in the "edit items" interface.
16:27 rafasaad yes... in 942$o I can see the information normally...
16:28 jcamins kmkale++
16:28 wizzyrea i'm unable to duplicate your issue where editing makes it disappear
16:28 rafasaad when I make a change in biblio, the location column shows only the library name and the number of items
16:28 jcamins magnuse: wouldn't you like to sign off on bug 1633? :)
16:28 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1633 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, kmkale, ASSIGNED , Add ability to take book cover images from local img db
16:28 nengard hehe
16:28 wizzyrea afaik the 082c isn't displayed in the results.
16:28 wizzyrea or on the detail.
16:29 wizzyrea or the 082a
16:29 magnuse jcamins: i sure would, but my laptop died on me and i currently don't have a testing environment on my stationary machine...
16:29 jcamins magnuse: tomorrow's fine too. :P
16:29 kmkale jcamins++
16:29 rafasaad Example: Library Name [001 S234b] (2) - Library name (2)
16:29 magnuse jcamins: hehe, thanks ;-)
16:29 oleonard jcamins: I'll try to submit my template follow-up today
16:29 kmkale awesome work and patience by jcamins :-D
16:29 jcamins oleonard: thanks!
16:30 jcamins oleonard++
16:30 rafasaad only 082a and b
16:30 wizzyrea rafasaad: marc21 or some other flavor
16:30 * wizzyrea is looking at marc21
16:30 rafasaad marc21
16:31 jcamins rafasaad: did you run the remove_items_from_biblioitems script?
16:31 kmkale dpavlin: could you please test and sign-off on bug 1633?
16:31 rafasaad no
16:31 jcamins rafasaad: you probably need to. You upgraded from 3.2?
16:32 rafasaad no, I upgraded from 3.4 to 3.6
16:33 jcamins rafasaad: hm. That's wrong, then.
16:33 kmkale @quote random
16:33 huginn` kmkale: Quote #51: "jwagner thinks true joy is not wanting to do a telecon, and finding out the other person has forgotten about it & left for the day :-)" (added by a user that is no longer registered at 07:35 PM, January 20, 2010)
16:33 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn`.
16:33 oleonard true joy?
16:33 kmkale @seen dpavlin
16:33 huginn` kmkale: dpavlin was last seen in #koha 5 days, 19 hours, 36 minutes, and 8 seconds ago: <dpavlin> slef: References: or TR-Ticket header?
16:33 * oleonard shrugs
16:34 schuster here to save his ok name... :)
16:34 oleonard Were your ears burning schuster?
16:34 rafasaad do you think there is a problem in upgrade process?
16:34 schuster That was an idea, http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/OPAC_Comments_RFC - that I have not followed up on... I just was reading through the history for today.
16:34 wizzyrea sorry, I meant 952o
16:34 jcamins rafasaad: no, if you upgraded from 3.4, it has nothing to do with the remove_items_from_biblioitems.
16:35 kmkale right I better head home and I might get in some decent sleep before being back in this chair again :)
16:35 jcamins Yay!
16:35 kmkale good night all
16:35 jcamins kmkale++ # again, for good measure.
16:35 jcamins Good night.
16:35 oleonard schuster: So no work on that floating around out there that we should know about?
16:35 rafasaad the strange is that, in opac, it remains the same... callnumber is normal... this problem appears only in staff interface
16:36 schuster nada... oleonard... Maybe after I get myself back on track I can look again at things I would "Like" the system to do.
16:36 jcamins rafasaad: I'm out of ideas, sorry.
16:36 oleonard schuster: I may take that up soon.
16:37 schuster We did a considerable amount of work on reserve book room or what I like to call a "list creator" for staff, but that was it.
16:37 rafasaad thx..
16:37 schuster oleonard - with 67 locations seeing everyones reviews isn't a good use of our librarians time thus the need to limit that display.
16:38 rafasaad I'll take a look in the differences between opac and staff code of results page...
16:38 oleonard schuster: I would be working on the user name display options only probably
16:38 * wizzyrea doesn't see your issue in 3.6
16:38 schuster Something I'm even more interested in is the email this cart feature in which you could put the senders actual email rather than the system sending it. I can't tell you how many teachers email a cart to a librarian and the librarian emails me wanting to know when I need the books!
16:39 schuster wizzyrea - ?? which 3.6 issue are you talking about?
16:39 schuster oh I bed rafasaads?
16:39 wizzyrea rafasaad's issue
16:39 schuster bed/bet
16:40 rafasaad ???
16:41 rafasaad what issue?
16:41 wahanui issue is if I want to do criculation (check out or check in) there will be an error in Can't call method "subfield" on an undefined value at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Biblio.pm line 2829.
16:41 wizzyrea forget issue
16:41 wahanui wizzyrea: I forgot issue
16:41 wizzyrea your issue ;)
16:43 rafasaad what issue?
16:44 wizzyrea never mind.
16:44 rafasaad ok
16:46 wizzyrea hm, ok.
16:52 maximep haha
16:53 wizzyrea but seriously did anybody understand what he was complaining about?
16:53 * jcamins did not.
16:53 * magnuse neither
16:56 schuster I suspect the display is different intentionally and that was there confusion.
16:56 jcamins Agreed.
16:56 wizzyrea could be
16:56 wizzyrea customized templates or something
16:57 jcamins wizzyrea: no, now that schuster suggests that, I think he was simply misunderstanding what he should be looking for.
16:57 jcamins Nothing was changing.
16:57 wizzyrea well that was what I thought
16:58 wizzyrea that the field he was looking for wasn't where the data he was looking at was actually stored
16:58 wizzyrea or some variant of that
17:04 nengard hmm that new range of dates feature is nice on the calendar, but you can't edit it as a range
17:05 oleonard True.
17:06 nengard so if you screw up you have to edit or delete a lot of holidays
17:06 nengard depending how big your range was
17:06 nengard new enhancement request coming :)
17:06 oleonard That shortcoming is mentioned in the original bug report
17:10 francharb` see ya
17:18 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #568: SUCCESS in 55 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/568/
17:18 jenkins_koha * nengard: bug6716: documenting reserves and old_reserves tables
17:18 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 6716 - Document Items Table
17:18 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 6716 Document deleteditems table
17:18 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 6716: Document biblioitems and deletedbiblioitems
17:18 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 6716 : Categories table
17:18 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6716 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, ASSIGNED , Database Documentation
17:18 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 6716 Update biblio & deletedbiblio tables
17:18 jenkins_koha * m.de.rooy: Bug 6803: Replacing remote XSL include
17:18 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 6865 - Replace image-based gradient backgrounds with CSS3 gradients
17:18 jenkins_koha * alex.arnaud: bug 6917 Dates filters doesn't work when they are not selected on row or column
17:18 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6803 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, m.de.rooy, ASSIGNED , Removing remote include in MODS xslt
17:18 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6865 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Replace image-based gradient backgrounds with CSS3 gradients
17:18 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6917 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED , Acquisitions reports: Dates filters doesn't work when they are not selected on row or column
17:18 magnuse \o/
17:18 wizzyrea \o/
17:18 jenkins_koha Starting build 569 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
17:19 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7139 : Log addition and deletion of circulation messages <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=288c1a768db4f578900de904ce39bc9a2f64378f> / Fix for Bug 7135: Save button options <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=da916a368c98e7f2599cf3a52126d53ee0ecfcd1> / Fix for Bug 7123 - barcode should be one word <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;
17:23 paul_p that will be enough for today. Have a good day guys !
17:23 magnuse kia ora sekjal
17:23 sekjal kia ora, magnuse
17:23 magnuse bon nuit paul_p
17:24 * magnuse wanders off
17:24 paul_p sekjal, and don't forget to answer my mail about plack !
17:24 sekjal paul_p: brendan's on it; I'm on other assignments this week. deep dark coding stuff, and then training a library
17:25 paul_p sekjal, OK. For me = testing & pushing like a mad every afternoon until friday (then 1 week off !)
17:25 paul_p (the morning being dedicated to BibLibre stuff)
17:26 sekjal hope to find some time to get QAing later this week, in the evenings post-training
17:48 jcamins_stocking_up_for_fudge oleonard++ # I guess I'd better get started on the peanut butter fudge!
17:57 gmcharlt heh - chat text suddenly is getting squeezed into a tiny column in my client
18:11 chris_n date/time stamp is getting squished here :-)
18:12 * jcamins uses irssi, so everything looks perfectly normal to him. :P
18:13 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #569: SUCCESS in 54 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/569/
18:13 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 6935: Correct XISBNDailyLimit for new installations
18:13 jenkins_koha * ian.walls: Bug 7093: placeholds for suggestion table not working in notices
18:13 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Fix for Bug 7121 - remove comma on items info
18:13 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Fix for Bug 7123 - barcode should be one word
18:13 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Fix for Bug 7135: Save button options
18:13 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 7139 : Log addition and deletion of circulation messages
18:13 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6935 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , SYStem preference XISBNDailyLimit preference text error
18:13 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7093 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED , Placeholders for suggestion table in suggestion related mails broken
18:13 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7121 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , remove comma on items info
18:13 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7123 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , barcode should be one word
18:13 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7135 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , in addbiblio, make save button floating to have it on always on screen
18:13 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7139 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , Log circulation messags
18:16 rangi morning
18:16 trea morning rangi
18:16 jcamins Morning.
18:17 trea anyone have a second to talk about longoverdue.pl?
18:17 * jcamins is studiously absent.
18:17 trea hehe
18:17 jcamins Actually, I don't know anything about it, so I couldn't help, anyway.
18:17 rangi yep I signed off on a patch on it last night
18:18 trea oya? neat. ok, here's the question.
18:18 trea in it's current implementation, does it check an item in when its' marked lost?
18:18 rangi I think the recent work to change the way lost works may have busted it, haven't tested fully yet
18:19 trea that's what i'm trying to determine as well
18:19 rangi it used to
18:19 jcamins oleonard: when I first open the imageviewer, it has a broken image for the main image.
18:19 wizzyrea we have evidence that suggests (but doesn't definitively prove) that it's broken.
18:19 oleonard Does it then load the main one jcamins?
18:19 trea rangi: we're seeing instances where the script marks items as lost, but they appear in opacdetail as checked out
18:20 jcamins oleonard: not until I click on one of the thumbnails.
18:20 wizzyrea that *used* to happen when you used edit items to mark an item lost
18:20 wizzyrea but shouldn't anymore
18:20 rangi yep it used to mark as lost=2 (long overdue)
18:20 rangi and return them
18:20 wizzyrea (from edit items, I mean)
18:20 wizzyrea redundant wizzy is redundant, sorry
18:20 rangi dunno what it does now the lost stuff has all been changed
18:21 trea mmm, k.
18:21 wizzyrea bug 5533
18:21 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5533 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, srdjan, ASSIGNED , marking item lost diff in two places
18:21 rangi im prepared to believe the changes broke it
18:21 wizzyrea ^^ this work, you mean
18:21 rangi yes
18:21 jcamins oleonard: the src is "/cgi-bin/koha/opac-image.pl?imagenumber=undefined"
18:21 wizzyrea yea, longoverdue is not considered in that work
18:22 rangi I think it loses meanings too
18:22 rangi now its binary
18:22 rangi lost or not
18:22 rangi before
18:22 wizzyrea each setting had meaning
18:22 rangi long overdue was a diff value
18:22 rangi so when it was returned
18:23 rangi it new to reverse the charge
18:23 wizzyrea *nod* this shift actually disrupted some workflows at NEKLS
18:23 trea okay, this is making more sense then.
18:23 rangi probably at other places too
18:24 wizzyrea http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5533#c22 this, specifically
18:24 huginn` 04Bug 5533: critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, srdjan, ASSIGNED , marking item lost diff in two places
18:28 jcamins oleonard: figured it out.
18:28 jcamins oleonard: it looks fantastic.
18:28 jcamins Signing off. :)
18:30 rangi @wunder wellington nz
18:30 huginn` rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 19.0�C (7:00 AM NZDT on December 14, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 15.0�C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
18:30 rangi warm
18:33 * sekjal hates overdue_notices.pl, quite a lot
18:38 * wizzyrea pokes someone for a signoff on bug 7157
18:38 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7157 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, wizzyrea, ASSIGNED , Improve the j2a.pl cronjob
18:41 * rangi has run out of sign off energy
18:42 rangi got down to below 90 though
18:42 rangi maybe friday ill do some more
18:42 wizzyrea is ok - i'm looking at other people >.>
18:43 rangi ok my stop
18:43 rangi bbiab
18:46 jcamins wizzyrea: I recommend bribing with sweets.
18:49 rangi back
18:49 wizzyrea that was fast
18:50 rangi yep, no coffee yet
18:58 ibeardslee that reminds me my cup seems empty, yes empty, not even 1/2 full
18:59 rangi heh
19:03 rangi hmm tanzeem
19:39 oleonard Hi Waylon
19:40 Waylon greetings all. Okay, having the wierdest problem. While a complete reindex happens, the whole entire koha returns 404's like Zebra is locking the database and doing a dbdump. Any ideas why this is happening?
19:45 jcamins Waylon: how are you reindexing?
19:45 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7135] in addbiblio, make save button floating to have it on always on screen <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7135>
19:46 oleonard ^ follow-up
19:51 rangi cool
19:52 oleonard qa++
19:53 * oleonard grabs the end of a ball of string and goes looking for something in Search.pm
19:54 Waylon using a secondary zebra server, its config and data directories completely seperate from the working koha server. using perl -I/home/koha/git/koha-mandumah /home/koha/git/koha-mandumah/misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -a -b -r -w
19:55 jcamins -w isn't generally a good idea.
19:55 jcamins However, no, I have no explanation.
19:55 Waylon it shouldn't be affecting koha.. but for some reason, as soon as this line hits.. koha becomes unusuable
19:56 oleonard $template->param( var => $var); is deprecated in favor of $template->{VARS}->{'var'} = $var; ?
19:56 jcamins oleonard: yes.
19:56 oleonard Hmm, so C4::Search::enabled_staff_search_views will need to be modified.
20:02 oleonard What is an "item linked via a host record" ?
20:02 jcamins oleonard: an item linked using the Easy Analytics functionality from OSS Labs.
20:07 chris_n come on now, can't you make it more clear?
20:09 jcamins chris_n: do you actually need more clarification, or are you just commenting on the name?
20:10 chris_n heh... neither; just commenting on the last list post
20:10 * chris_n notices oleonard's string and yanks it
20:11 jcamins chris_n: oh, heh. Great post.
20:11 * oleonard never should have brought a kitten on a quest like this
20:12 jenkins_koha Starting build 24 for job Koha_3.6.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
20:12 * jcamins feels no inclination to help tanzeem.
20:12 jcamins oleonard: oh no! Eaten?
20:13 chris_n 3.6.2 string freeze starts thursday: if you want to see something included, you'd better hurry
20:13 wizzyrea oh surely we have a "shelf list with copy count" report on the wiki
20:14 jcamins wizzyrea: I'm sure we do. And the apparent lack of any effort to figure things out means that it can sit on the wiki.
20:14 jcamins Uncommented-on for all I care.
20:15 wizzyrea http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/SQL_Reports_Library#Complete_Shelf_list :P
20:15 * wizzyrea will have mercy and send the report.
20:15 jcamins wizzyrea: I wasn't questioning that it was easy to do.
20:15 wizzyrea i know :)
20:24 oleonard Okay, detail.pl says: $norequests = 0 unless ( ( $item->{'notforloan'} > 0 ) || ( $item->{'itemnotforloan'} > 0 ) );
20:25 oleonard Can anyone tell me where in GetItemsInfo $item->{'notforloan'} is coming from?
20:25 rangi the db?
20:25 wahanui the db is probably running?
20:25 * rangi guesses
20:25 wizzyrea C4/Items?
20:25 oleonard The query selects items.notforloan as itemnotforloan and itemtypes.notforloan as notforloan_per_itemtype
20:26 * wizzyrea doesn't know.
20:26 rangi hhm then no idea
20:27 rangi new schema
20:27 rangi http://schema.koha-community.org/index.html
20:27 rangi with the latest comments
20:28 wizzyrea squee!
20:28 chris_n why not crontab a job to refresh schemaspy weekly/monthly/X-ly?
20:29 rangi cos i like mucking around with new version of the schemaspy code
20:35 wizzyrea rangi++ nengard++ for doing all the work on schema. That's so helpful.
20:40 oleonard Okay, so checking ( $item->{'notforloan'} > 0 ) || ( $item->{'itemnotforloan'} > 0 ) is checking the same thing twice :|
20:42 chris_n thats how I read it
20:42 chris_n too
20:54 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.6.x build #24: SUCCESS in 42 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.6.x/24/
20:54 jenkins_koha * info: Bug 7215 - changed callnumber PRESET field to itemcallnumber
20:54 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 7215 : The Module changed, but the tests weren't updated to reflect that
20:54 jenkins_koha * f.demians: Bug 7245 Tables population with mandatory data for italian installation
20:54 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: welcome Fabio, you're 165th !
20:54 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7215 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, brendan, ASSIGNED , callnumber versus itemcallnumber
20:54 jenkins_koha * christophe.croullebois: Bug 6663: Features for holidays.pl with datepicker
20:54 jenkins_koha * nengard: bug6716: documenting reserves and old_reserves tables
20:54 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 6716 - Document Items Table
20:54 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 6716 Document deleteditems table
20:54 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7245 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, ASSIGNED , Errors in MySQL tables population with mandatory data for italian installation
20:54 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6663 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, christophe.croullebois, ASSIGNED , would be nice to put ranges of dates in the calendar
20:54 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 6716: Document biblioitems and deletedbiblioitems
20:54 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 6716 : Categories table
20:54 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6716 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, ASSIGNED , Database Documentation
20:54 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 6716 Update biblio & deletedbiblio tables
20:54 jenkins_koha * m.de.rooy: Bug 6803: Replacing remote XSL include
20:54 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 6865 - Replace image-based gradient backgrounds with CSS3 gradients
20:54 jenkins_koha * alex.arnaud: bug 6917 Dates filters doesn't work when they are not selected on row or column
20:54 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6803 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, m.de.rooy, ASSIGNED , Removing remote include in MODS xslt
20:54 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 6935: Correct XISBNDailyLimit for new installations
20:54 jenkins_koha * ian.walls: Bug 7093: placeholds for suggestion table not working in notices
20:54 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6865 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Replace image-based gradient backgrounds with CSS3 gradients
20:54 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6917 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED , Acquisitions reports: Dates filters doesn't work when they are not selected on row or column
20:54 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Fix for Bug 7121 - remove comma on items info
20:54 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Fix for Bug 7123 - barcode should be one word
20:54 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6935 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , SYStem preference XISBNDailyLimit preference text error
20:54 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Fix for Bug 7135: Save button options
20:54 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 7139 : Log addition and deletion of circulation messages
20:54 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7093 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED , Placeholders for suggestion table in suggestion related mails broken
20:54 jenkins_koha * chris.nighswonger: Release Notes for 3.06.02.000 13 Dec 2011 20:00:36 Z
20:54 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7121 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , remove comma on items info
20:55 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7123 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , barcode should be one word
20:55 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7135 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , in addbiblio, make save button floating to have it on always on screen
20:55 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7139 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , Log circulation messags
21:03 rangi go well?
21:04 nengard surgery is on friday
21:04 nengard would be better if it was now - but i'll take it
21:04 wizzyrea you poor dear
21:04 nengard hopefully 2012 is my year
21:05 rangi yeah!
21:05 nengard heh
21:06 nengard he didn't even try to offer me another option - it's that bad - they have to take it out
21:06 wizzyrea oy!
21:06 oleonard :(
21:06 nengard i guess if i went to the doc the first time i had an attack it might be different - or maybe not
21:06 wizzyrea well, think of it this way - at least you'll have all of your broken stuff fixed.
21:06 nengard who knows
21:06 nengard yup!!
21:06 * wizzyrea looks for the bright side
21:07 nengard another bright side ? I'll lose more weight
21:07 nengard HA!
21:07 wizzyrea :)
21:09 wizzyrea http://boingboing.net/2011/12/09/useful-vocabulary-for-the-holi.html
21:24 oleonard jcamins: Why Koha/Images.pm not C4/Images.pm?
21:25 rangi oleonard: we are shifting slowly to the Koha:: namespace
21:26 rangi the rule is, modules in there cant call C4:: ones and need to be clean and tidy
21:26 rangi its a way to do incremental clean up and remove circular dependencies
21:26 rangi without making koha unusable for months
21:26 rangi while we do it
21:27 rangi there is Koha/Cache.pm too
21:27 oleonard ...So should Koha/Images.pm not be allowed to call C4::Context?
21:27 rangi that is the only one its allowed to call
21:27 rangi because that is the only C4 module that doesnt in turn call about 10 more
21:27 rangi at some point soonish we will make a Koha::Context
21:28 rangi which will start life as a wrapper for C4::Context
21:29 rangi theres a Koha::Accountlines in process with a total overhaul of the accounts system, it allows it to be worked on/tested etc without busting everything
21:29 * oleonard should have a staff client follow-up for bug 1633 ready tomorrow sometime
21:30 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1633 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, kmkale, ASSIGNED , Add ability to take book cover images from local img db
21:30 oleonard ...but now it's quitting time
21:30 oleonard See y'all later
21:30 rangi http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=6359
21:30 rangi is another in the Koha:: space
21:30 rangi cya oleonard
21:32 libsysguy rangi do you have a copy of master running?
21:33 rangi yup
21:33 libsysguy public opac that i can take a peek at?
21:33 jcamins rangi: wouldn't you like to sign of on bug 1633?
21:33 jcamins :)
21:34 rangi not today :)
21:34 jcamins rangi: tomorrow's fine. :)
21:34 rangi libsysguy: hmm not of master
21:34 rangi we dont run master in production
21:34 jcamins libsysguy: head.bibkat.no
21:34 wahanui head.bibkat.no is probably up to date as of right now - login: demo/demo
21:34 jcamins Nice!
21:34 rangi our master ones are all behind firewalls and the like
21:34 jcamins @later tell magnuse Good idea, teaching wahanui about head.bibkat.no.
21:34 huginn` jcamins: The operation succeeded.
21:35 libsysguy hmm ok i guess my rebase work is correct
21:36 libsysguy i had a weird thing happen where there were (n) results shown in faceting
21:36 libsysguy and something weird with oleonards new patch
21:37 libsysguy but it quickly stopped after some git merging
21:37 libsysguy so I just wanted to see the latest copy
21:38 wizzyrea libsysguy - the reindex fixed your issue yesterday?
21:38 * wizzyrea was thinking about you
21:40 libsysguy yeah it did
21:40 wizzyrea phew!
21:40 libsysguy aww thanks wizzyrea
21:40 libsysguy i know
21:40 jcamins libsysguy: what were you trying to do in the first place?
21:40 libsysguy it only took 2 hours
21:40 jcamins I can't recall.
21:40 wizzyrea the first qustion
21:41 libsysguy just remove a file from the home directory
21:41 wizzyrea the first question?
21:41 wahanui the first question is "What are you trying to do?"
21:41 libsysguy but i was lazy
21:41 libsysguy and just did rm -rf biblios*
21:41 libsysguy oops
21:41 wizzyrea ok that was bad lazy :P
21:41 libsysguy yeah it was
21:41 rangi libsysguy: have you seen safe-rm before?
21:42 libsysguy i haven't
21:42 rangi http://www.safe-rm.org.nz/
21:42 rangi francois wrote it
21:42 libsysguy sweet baby jesus
21:42 wizzyrea francois++
21:42 rangi its a bloody good thing to have on servers
21:42 wizzyrea that is epic.
21:42 wizzyrea that's so great I want to swear.
21:42 rangi its in debian of course
21:43 wizzyrea someone go get francois a coffee.
21:43 wizzyrea or something.
21:43 libsysguy yeah no joke
21:44 wizzyrea we should make a koha config file for that
21:44 rangi couldnt hurt
21:47 eythian rangi: are you able to regenerate schemaspy stuff, it's had more docs and is a little out of date now
21:48 rangi already did that
21:48 rangi http://schema.koha-community.org/ <-- 9.18 this morning
21:50 eythian awesome :)
21:50 eythian (I hadn't checked, just going on what nengard said to me :)
21:51 eythian http://o.onionstatic.com/images/articles/article/2291/Scientist-Ask-Jump_jpg_600x1000_q85.jpg <-- in case you were wondering about science
22:09 wizzyrea eythian: hehe!
22:10 wizzyrea i lol'd
22:15 * cait waves
22:15 rangi hi cait
22:15 wizzyrea http://www.myextralife.com/comics/2011-08-22.jpg
22:15 wizzyrea ^^ my hard drives, I'm sure.
22:16 cait hi rangi and wizzyrea :)
22:16 wizzyrea hi cait!
22:16 eythian hello cait
22:16 cait heya robin :)
22:18 magnus_afk hiya eythian!
22:18 eythian g'day magnus_afk
22:18 magnus_afk yay
22:19 magnus_afk just curious: any plans for wrapping up the i10n work?
22:20 eythian I'd love to have plans for it. I'd also love to have time for it :)
22:20 magnus_afk hehe
22:20 * magnus_afk was expecting an answer like that ;-)
22:20 eythian Maybe it can be one of my "escape from family" projects for over christmas :)
22:20 magnus_afk yay
22:20 eythian that and finishing my openlibrary stuff
22:21 magnus_afk both very cool projects!
22:22 magnus_afk well, i'm off - have a good [time of the day] #koha!
22:23 rangi cya magnus_away
22:24 eythian cya
22:25 cait eythian: I have this kind of projects on my list too
22:28 cait :)