Time  Nick            Message
23:18 huginn`         New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7157] Improve the j2a.pl cronjob <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7157>
23:13 libsysguy       wizzyrea**
23:13 libsysguy       laterz qizz
23:11 wizzyrea        for real
23:11 wizzyrea        now I"m gone
23:11 wizzyrea        for me
23:11 wizzyrea        www2
23:09 rangi           cya wizzyrea
23:08 wizzyrea        or later, who knows.
23:08 wizzyrea        until tomorrow!
23:08 wizzyrea        ok and with that, I bid you all good evening.
22:58 libsysguy       yeah...I'm trying to make it as easy to maintain as possible
22:57 maximep         but yeah, I see your problem if yiou have to do them manually :/
22:57 maximep         I dont think it impacts usability
22:56 maximep         yeah I like the images, except the one with a fake youtube video :S
22:56 libsysguy       well it impacts the maintainability...lib uses all dynamic menu's...www2 has to be done by hand
22:55 eythian         I think they look better, but I suspect it'll impact their usability.
22:54 libsysguy       eythian and maximep do you like the images and multicolumns in the www2 site?
22:53 libsysguy       I think i can fix that gap
22:53 libsysguy       went ahead and changed that dropdown speed
22:53 libsysguy       I'm acutally not much for that either
22:52 eythian         also, I don't like the couple-mm gap between the top of the drop-down and the menu bar.
22:52 eythian         but I have good internet here
22:52 libsysguy       ok well that is very fixable
22:52 eythian         oh wait, probably slower load time
22:52 libsysguy       ahh
22:52 maximep         exactly
22:51 eythian         as in, there's no fade-in
22:51 eythian         no (well yes) but faster access time
22:51 libsysguy       faster load time?
22:51 eythian         also it looks a little cleaner.
22:51 eythian         me too, mostly for the same reason
22:51 maximep         because it's faster
22:51 maximep         well, I prefer the www2
22:49 libsysguy       sorry about that maximep
22:48 libsysguy       phew not mine :p
22:48 maximep         no prob in ff
22:48 maximep         the www2
22:48 maximep         first one in opera
22:48 libsysguy       the www2 or the lib site?
22:48 libsysguy       o.m.g
22:48 maximep         :S
22:48 maximep         for some reason it started downloading a thousand images
22:48 wahanui         which one is probably it
22:48 libsysguy       which one?
22:47 maximep         wow, it almost crashed my browser
22:46 libsysguy       (by primary menu I mean that orange bar)
22:45 libsysguy       ok random question about menu's which primary menu do you like better http://www2.uttyler.edu/ or http://lib.uttyler.edu
22:44 wahanui         Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world.
22:44 eythian         wahanui: germs?
22:42 wahanui         i already had it that way, huginn`.
22:42 huginn`         wizzyrea: Quote #51: "jwagner thinks true joy is not wanting to do a telecon, and finding out the other person has forgotten about it & left for the day :-)" (added by a user that is no longer registered at 07:35 PM, January 20, 2010)
22:42 wizzyrea        @quote random
22:42 libsysguy       haha that one is good
22:41 wizzyrea        oh I love that one.
22:41 huginn`         wizzyrea: Quote #148: "<oleonard> sekjal wants EVERYTHING in a matrix! <sekjal> I'm like the Anti-Neo" (added by wizzyrea at 05:11 PM, August 25, 2011)
22:41 wizzyrea        @quote random
22:41 wizzyrea        hehe
22:41 wahanui         i already had it that way, huginn`.
22:41 huginn`         libsysguy: Quote #92: "<schuster> Why even learn when there is a genius in the room..." (added by jwagner at 01:43 PM, August 27, 2010)
22:41 libsysguy       @quote random
22:41 wahanui         i already had it that way, huginn`.
22:41 huginn`         libsysguy: Error: The command "random" is available in the Factoids and Quote plugins.  Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "random".
22:41 libsysguy       @random quote
22:40 libsysguy       i wonder if we could alias a command in wahanui so that when you say forget *something* it says "I'm afraid I can't do that, <username>"
22:33 wizzyrea        well, that works for me anyway
22:32 wizzyrea        :)
22:32 aarkerio        thanks pals!
22:32 aarkerio        well, I can add the SQL to reports, is OK
22:32 wahanui         wizzyrea: I forgot in there
22:32 wizzyrea        forget in there
22:31 wizzyrea        for get in there
22:31 wahanui         i heard in there was the command to rebuild the indexes
22:31 wizzyrea        in there
22:31 wizzyrea        no, you have to put the biblionumber of the bib you are looking for
22:31 wizzyrea        oh
22:30 wizzyrea        hm
22:30 aarkerio        if I set "biblio" or "item"  as Object  I get   "No log found"
22:28 wizzyrea        all fields are optional
22:28 wizzyrea        that's the borrowernumber of the librarian - but I don't think you need it
22:28 aarkerio        what should I set in "Librarian" ?    (Browse system logs)
22:27 wizzyrea        so a biblio
22:27 aarkerio        mmm, a MARC record
22:26 wizzyrea        you want to know who added an item or a biblio?
22:25 aarkerio        I guess biblio is the new MARC
22:25 aarkerio        I see only "biblio" and "item" objects
22:23 wizzyrea        usually the object number is the biblionumber
22:23 wizzyrea        you weren't able to get it out of the tools -> log?
22:23 aarkerio        SELECT AL.timestamp, B.firstname FROM action_logs AS AL, borrowers AS B WHERE AL.info='item' AND B.borrowernumber = AL.user ORDER BY B.firstname;
22:23 aarkerio        I got it:
22:20 wizzyrea        :)
22:20 aarkerio        that is much better!
22:20 wahanui         schema is probably tracked in git. or found at http://schema.koha-community.org
22:20 wizzyrea        schema?
22:20 wizzyrea        aarkeri
22:20 aarkerio        an image of koha database design exist in the wiki?
22:13 wahanui         wizzyrea: I forgot borrowers
22:13 wizzyrea        forget borrowers
22:13 aarkerio        thanks again!
22:13 wahanui         it has been said that borrowers is the same
22:13 libsysguy       aarkerio:  borrowers
22:13 aarkerio        in what table is the username saved?
22:10 cait            ibeardslee: I won't :)
22:10 wizzyrea        bye jcamins
22:10 mbalmer         that must be tiles….
22:10 jcamins         Time for me to go.
22:10 wizzyrea        she forgot to turn the oven on.
22:10 ibeardslee      don't get too many brownie crumbs in bed
22:10 mbalmer         that was like 3 hours?
22:10 mbalmer         cait, so long for brownies?
22:10 wizzyrea        bye cait :)
22:09 cait            time to go - night all!
22:09 * wizzyrea      too
22:09 cait            yay!
22:09 * ibeardslee    assumes that ~ meant /home/libsysguy
22:09 cait            brownies finally done
22:09 wizzyrea        in a directory called biblios
22:09 wizzyrea        unless you've got your indexes sitting directly in ~
22:09 ibeardslee      yeah but that further away from / rather than closer
22:08 libsysguy       for recursive
22:08 libsysguy       yeah but it was a -r
22:08 ibeardslee      hmm I find it unusual to think that prod data (even if they are just indexes) would live in ~
22:06 libsysguy       it was most certainly a case of tab confusion
22:06 libsysguy       negative
22:06 wizzyrea        ^^ is what she was asking
22:06 cait            and I don't assume you had planned to do what you ended up doing
22:06 wahanui         i heard the first question was "What are you trying to do?"
22:06 wizzyrea        the first question
22:06 * libsysguy     shakes head
22:06 cait            I saw that
22:06 libsysguy       yeah i am
22:05 libsysguy       cait: i ran rm -rf biblios* from ~
22:05 sekjal          libsysguy: if you're running hourly loans, you're a git install
22:05 libsysguy       crap I don't think I am
22:04 wizzyrea        http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Recovering_from_a_corrupted_zebra_index
22:04 wahanui         package info is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.4_on_Debian_Squeeze
22:04 libsysguy       packages
22:04 wizzyrea        your'e not running packages? It actually backs up the indexes.
22:04 cait            what did you want to do if I may ask that?
22:04 wizzyrea        ^^
22:03 cait            start the reindex first
22:03 cait            lol
22:03 libsysguy       haha yeah ill just go take a run...away from Margo
22:03 wizzyrea        < has experience with this technique
22:03 wizzyrea        do this: go out the back door, have a freak out, then come in and fix it :)
22:02 libsysguy       gracias
22:02 * wizzyrea      gets libsysguy a paper bag
22:02 * libsysguy     procedes to hyperventelate
22:02 wizzyrea        from great mistakes come great learning.
22:02 wizzyrea        breathe*
22:02 libsysguy       im the best guy ever
22:02 wizzyrea        libsysguy: breath chum.
22:02 libsysguy       during finals...
22:02 jcamins         libsysguy: you deleted the indexes, most likely.
22:01 libsysguy       or sweet baby jesus why
22:01 wizzyrea        that's most likely even.
22:01 cait            yep
22:01 wizzyrea        you may have to reindex
22:01 cait            koha-dev zebra biblios maybe
22:01 libsysguy       yeah maybe
22:01 cait            hm, killed zebra stuff perhaps?
22:01 libsysguy       so it could have gotten to kohaclone or oha-dev
22:01 wizzyrea        oh
22:01 wizzyrea        in what directory?
22:01 libsysguy       like an ITIOT...
22:00 libsysguy       and i ran it from ~
22:00 libsysguy       becuase now searching is broken
22:00 libsysguy       i accidentally ran rm -rf biblios* on my prod box...I killed it before it finished it but i think it still got something
22:00 wizzyrea        I'm begging you.
22:00 wizzyrea        no please, butt in.
22:00 wizzyrea        uhoh
22:00 libsysguy       ok not to butt in here but I feel like i have royally messed up
21:59 wizzyrea        :)
21:59 aarkerio        thanks!
21:57 wizzyrea        no, i ^^ what he said
21:57 jcamins         Tools > Log viewer
21:57 jcamins         aarkerio: no, in the database.
21:57 aarkerio        do you mean a text file?
21:56 wizzyrea        actionlogs by biblionumber
21:56 wizzyrea        should be in the logs
21:56 aarkerio        hi! there is a way to know who add a Marc record?
21:50 wizzyrea        Oh, a raw nerve thing.
21:49 mbalmer         I am just so tired of that jokes.
21:49 wizzyrea        clearly.
21:49 mbalmer         wizzyrea, it's ok.
21:49 mbalmer         jcamins, please tell that do the folks that make fun of balmerisms
21:49 * wizzyrea      apologizes if I upset you
21:48 wizzyrea        Actually, I did.
21:48 jcamins         mbalmer: we do our best to be civil on #koha.
21:48 mbalmer         I did not choose my family name, did you?
21:48 mbalmer         and your remarks are just plain stupid.
21:47 wizzyrea        no, a martician is a retail clerk from mars.
21:47 mbalmer         Steve Ballmer has two 'l's, mbalmer has one.
21:47 mbalmer         a martician is an embalmer.  I am mbalmer.
21:46 wahanui         interesting is sometimes bad or sometimes good
21:46 wizzyrea        interesting.
21:46 mbalmer         sorry, but I think you are a bit retarded.
21:45 wizzyrea        ok, every time mbalmer comes in I think 2 things: 1. are you a mortician? and 2. are you related to steve ballmer because if it's #2 -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zEQhhaJsU4 this springs to mind.
21:42 ibeardslee      hehe
21:42 jcamins         wizzyrea: there was eggnog. Who could tell what the temperature actually was? ;)
21:42 wizzyrea        :)
21:41 wizzyrea        hmm i imagine your house wasn't very warm with the oven off.
21:41 ibeardslee      I did that at my house warming a few years back .. quite embarrassing that the chicken nibbles were taking so long to cook
21:41 wizzyrea        it never hurts.
21:41 cait            you think alcohol is going to fix it?
21:41 librarygeekadam its my first time on here and I really appreciate the help. I will definitely come back if I have questions :) thank you again
21:41 * wizzyrea      sends cait egg nog
21:41 ibeardslee      oops
21:41 * wizzyrea      has done that
21:40 * cait          has to wait another 30 minutes for the brownies... because she forgot to turn on the oven...
21:40 wizzyrea        sure.
21:40 librarygeekadam I appreciate it
21:40 librarygeekadam awesome
21:40 wizzyrea        but most of it does.
21:40 wizzyrea        now, not all of that applies
21:40 jcamins         cait: yes, exactly.
21:40 wizzyrea        criminy. sorry
21:40 wizzyrea        oh
21:39 cait            scrolling down first...
21:39 wizzyrea        http://kudos.koha-community.org/wp-content/uploads/OPAC-Customization-1.pdf
21:39 cait            hm
21:39 librarygeekadam sure
21:39 cait            like a screenshot in a word document?
21:39 wizzyrea        http://kudos.koha-community.org/wp-content/uploads/OPAC-Customization-1.pdf
21:39 librarygeekadam ok
21:39 wizzyrea        one more place
21:39 wizzyrea        sec
21:39 librarygeekadam cool...thank you very much
21:39 jcamins         librarygeekadam: ^^ that site.
21:38 wahanui         oleonard's blog is http://www.myacpl.org/koha
21:38 jcamins         oleonard's blog?
21:38 jcamins         rhcl: only sillier.
21:38 librarygeekadam would anyone be able to direct me to a site that gives some good steps on making Koha unique. I just installed it on a laptop for testing and I would like to really make a good impression on the people that make decisions.
21:38 rhcl            is that like ssh over http?
21:38 * jcamins       finds it ironic that he just received a tweet (i.e. Twitter tweet) on a mailing list.
21:37 rhcl            presentation proposal done, time for a coffee/hamburger/brownie break
21:33 rangi           i dunno how can't morphed into cran
21:33 rangi           heh
21:33 wizzyrea        is that like cran-apple?
21:32 * wizzyrea      has never had cran-remember
21:32 rangi           i cran remember
21:20 wizzyrea        where was chris_n's tools repo again?
21:18 cait            you still were fast enough :)
21:17 cait            lol
21:16 wizzyrea        lol, what sucks is that I was ready but I kept typoing bye!
21:15 wizzyrea        Bye!
21:15 oleonard        Bye all
21:01 cait            but not in general
21:01 cait            have to research that
21:01 cait            about uk
21:01 cait            rhcl: I don't know abou tuk
20:58 jcamins         It's now the history *brush*.
20:58 oleonard        That seems unlikely
20:57 jcamins         Argh! Did they eliminate the history eraser in Photoshop?
20:56 wizzyrea        this channel just became like wikipedia - it all ends up with marie antoinette's underwear.
20:55 rhcl            jcamins: I think a famous headless French woman once suggested something similar.
20:55 jcamins         rhcl: no one ever stopped me carrying homemade cookies into Scotland.
20:54 rhcl            Aren't there like, really strict import restrictions in Europe? Can you carry non-commercial food from country to country?
20:54 jcamins         rhcl: eat brownies?
20:53 rhcl_away       Well, if my library doesn't stock hamburgers...what am I supposed to do?
20:52 wizzyrea        O.o
20:50 ibeardslee      are they 'special' brownies that you wouldn't be able to get past the sniffer dogs?
20:49 cait            I would be willing to carry some to scotland
20:49 gmcharlt        jcamins: international ILL requests?  those can get expensive ;)
20:49 cait            you have to come and get htem
20:49 cait            lol
20:49 * cait          eyes her work suspiciously
20:49 * jcamins       submits an ILL request for brownies from cait.
20:49 cait            they smell good
20:49 * jcamins       thinks brownies would be sufficient.
20:49 cait            brownies and fudge?
20:48 cait            hehe
20:48 * jcamins       wonders why someone would want to ILL hamburgers.
20:48 rhcl_away       *wonders if it would be possible to add a Koha feature to ILL brownies and hamburgers from another library
20:21 chris_n         hey cait
20:21 cait            jcamins++ !
20:20 cait            time to get the brownies out of the oven :)
20:20 oleonard        Hey, jcamins did the hard parts!
20:20 cait            ok
20:20 cait            hi chris_n :)
20:20 chris_n         oleonard++
20:20 moodaepo        cait++ : )
20:19 rangi           lol
20:19 cait            there is always a reason
20:19 cait            rangi++
20:18 cait            oleonard++! :)
20:18 moodaepo        rangi++ # on a totally different note
20:15 rangi           very cool
20:15 moodaepo        oleonard++
20:15 jcamins         oleonard++
20:15 jcamins         Nice!
20:14 * moodaepo      I guess spring is a little early
20:13 wizzyrea        guys! that's awesome!
20:13 oleonard        http://screencast.com/t/uk3ywETD
20:13 huginn`         moodaepo: The current temperature in MSU Physics Dept, Mankato, Minnesota is 4.4�C (2:10 PM CST on December 12, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 90%. Dew Point: 3.0�C. Windchill: 3.0�C. Pressure: 30.14 in 1020.5 hPa (Rising).
20:13 moodaepo        @wunder 56001
20:09 jcamins         oleonard: yeah, the plan was to have it random, but I had issues figuring out random, and decided that was a good "exercise for the interested reader."
20:09 cait            and I am too tired to start on something else too
20:08 cait            they are for the xmas party tomorrow
20:08 cait            let's hope they work
20:08 cait            no more ingredients...
20:08 cait            lol
20:08 oleonard        cait: You may have to specify multiple sources for your brownies in case the first one fails.
20:08 * cait          wonders if these brownies are going to work out
20:07 cait            some way to mark one as primary?
20:07 cait            hm
20:06 oleonard        jcamins: I wonder if it's necessary to have some mechanism to specify which of multiple images is the primary one. I'm assuming right now the primary one is whichever was added first?
20:04 rhcl_away       Well, I hate most animated gifs, but sometimes image cycling is OK
20:04 cait            heh
20:04 jcamins         Unless it's a cute cat.
20:03 cait            everything that moves is eew
20:03 cait            I agree
20:02 jcamins         rhcl_away: that seems like it would be really annoying.
20:02 rhcl_away       'allow multiple cover images to coexist"  =? display cycling through multiple images, � la animated gifs
19:59 rangi           potentially, but if you did it ajaxly, it wouldnt/shouldnt slow the page down
19:59 cait            ajax?
19:59 cait            no idea
19:58 oleonard        Seems like you'd have to have JavaScript querying one service after another looking for a valid image, and wouldn't that take forever?
19:57 cait            perhaps giving it a priority list?
19:50 jcamins         I have no idea.
19:50 oleonard        I wonder how that would work
19:49 jcamins         kmkale is working on a follow-up that will allow multiple cover images to coexist, apparently.
19:49 jcamins         oleonard: that's correct.
19:49 oleonard        jcamins: In its present state is this preference intended to work in isolation, not in conjunction with other services?
19:47 jcamins         And I'm photographing a collection on Wednesday.
19:47 jcamins         Not that much of the code ended up in the final version, but at least the idea was present.
19:46 jcamins         oleonard: well, I had kmkale's patch as a starting point.
19:46 oleonard        jcamins you must have really gotten a bee in your bonnet about images over the weekend to have done all that work
19:45 rangi           :)
19:45 oleonard        I wouldn't go that far, but I'm working on it :)
19:44 jcamins         oleonard++ # for making the image viewer beautiful
19:05 jcamins         Mmm. Brownies.
19:05 * cait          goes back to destroying her kitchen with brownie baking
19:04 cait            rangi++ indeed
19:03 oleonard        rangi++ # for lots of signoffs
18:45 francharb       thanks rangi
18:45 francharb       p
18:45 francharb       i will ask paul_
18:44 huginn`         04Bug 7342: critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, alex.arnaud, ASSIGNED , aqbudgets statistics doesn't work when using Authorized values on sort1_authcat or sort2_authcat
18:44 francharb       before signing off this patch http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7342
18:44 francharb       and aqorders.sort1authcat doesnt look like relevent
18:43 francharb       to me, it makes sense this way
18:43 francharb       orderline
18:43 francharb       and aqorder.sort1 for the value you put within the orderling
18:43 francharb       i think aqbudget.sort1_authcat would be for the authorised value category linked to the sort1 field...
18:41 francharb       hehe
18:41 rangi           not me, but I think it was a biblibre thing, so ask around :)
18:40 francharb       koha also have sort1_authcat within aqbudgets table
18:39 francharb       within aqorders?
18:39 francharb       anyone knows the difference between sort1 and sort1_authcat
18:39 francharb       i've got a question about aqorders
18:39 francharb       hey there
18:31 rhcl_away       BTW, tcohen, you handled the window Koha issue well
18:31 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7082 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED , Template improvements for better translatability
18:31 jenkins_koha    Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7082: Template improvements for better translatability
18:31 jenkins_koha    Project Koha_master build #566: STILL UNSTABLE in 52 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/566/
18:25 tcohen          nevermind, just found it
18:23 tcohen          directions?
18:23 tcohen          i'd like to checkout the koha/solr code from biblibre
18:00 fabio_t         bye!
17:46 cait            back #koha
17:40 rangi           broke the labels test
17:40 rangi           patch for bug 7215
17:39 jenkins_koha    Starting build 566 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #564 2 h 0 mn ago)
17:39 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7336 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , memberentry.pl generates an error in the log
17:39 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7215 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, brendan, ASSIGNED , callnumber versus itemcallnumber
17:39 jenkins_koha    * oleonard: Bug 7336 - memberentry.pl generates an error in the log
17:39 jenkins_koha    * info: Bug 7215 - changed callnumber PRESET field to itemcallnumber
17:39 jenkins_koha    Project Koha_master build #565: UNSTABLE in 53 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/565/
16:54 huginn`         New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7082: Template improvements for better translatability <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=57800f2af22e496ecc113672c64de0b25c497bbf> / Bug 7336 - memberentry.pl generates an error in the log <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1fb0351979637626a8b2310209edf851689f8342>
16:51 nengard         thanks all
16:51 nengard         okay, i'll post to koha dev to ask for manual update assistance!
16:51 kf              bye all :)
16:51 kf              have to go food shopping - have to make some kind of dessert for our xmas party tomorrow :)
16:51 kf              we don't use that function, so I am not sure what is best
16:51 kf              so making clear there are options perhaps?
16:51 kf              i think it is required if you set it to dontmerge
16:50 kf              and the table has a similar function than zebraqueue has
16:50 nengard         but shouldn't we update the preference to make it clear that it's not required?
16:50 nengard         kf that looks promising
16:50 kf              comment 26
16:50 kf              seems you can do both
16:49 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6094 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, m.de.rooy, ASSIGNED , Fixing ModAuthority problems
16:49 kf              bug 6094
16:49 nengard         it sounds like we need a manual update big time and an update to the preference description in Koha so that people know that there is no cron
16:49 jcamins         nengard: I have no idea, then.
16:49 nengard         and does that database table actually do the merging? or just sit there?
16:48 jcamins         kf: oh, maybe.
16:48 kf              let me find it
16:48 kf              authorities that need to be merged
16:48 jcamins         kf: I'm sure you know what I meant.
16:48 * Brooke        is reminded of all the stray wiring connected to nothing in her old house...
16:48 jcamins         kf: for what?
16:48 jcamins         kf: a new table in what?
16:48 jcamins         nengard: that's my assumption.
16:48 kf              I thought someone (marcel?) did some work on that
16:48 kf              jcamins: isn't there a new table in the database?
16:47 nengard         so that preference doesn't work at all
16:47 nengard         what???
16:47 jcamins         I just don't think it's still there.
16:47 jcamins         nengard: oh, it's still required.
16:47 nengard         cause i still calls for it
16:47 nengard         then we need to update the preference
16:47 jcamins         nengard: the cron job doesn't exist anymore, I don't think.
16:47 jcamins         oleonard: thanks.
16:46 nengard         and that the preference description in Koha is right
16:46 kf              bye all
16:46 nengard         and need to make sure the manual is up to date
16:46 nengard         I'm hearing conflicting things
16:46 nengard         question about the dontmerge preference - it says you need a cron job to get it to work is that true?
16:46 * paul_p        switches to mode "QAing" (as there are no more patches to push, except those with an updatedatabase, that I keep for the new updatedatabase system
16:45 oleonard        jcamins: The Edit->Upload image menu item is a nice touch
16:45 jenkins_koha    Starting build 565 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED)
16:44 huginn`         New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7215 - changed callnumber PRESET field to itemcallnumber <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b255d091fdbfecf1dd82475052ad966546a76e7f>
16:42 jcamins         paul_p: yeah, that's why I decided to use atomicupdate.
16:41 paul_p          (and with the new updatedatabase system, that will be automatically done !)
16:41 paul_p          when there is an atomicupdate, I just perl atomicupdate/nameoftheupdate.pl
16:41 paul_p          forget !
16:41 paul_p          oups, sorry, I mixed 2 things...
16:40 paul_p          jcamins, prove blabla
16:40 jcamins         paul_p: then how does it get run when it's committed?
16:39 paul_p          nope, I don't. rangi told me he made a pre-commit git hook, I didn't
16:38 jcamins         I think paul_p does something to make it run automatically.
16:38 jcamins         oleonard: I just run it directly.
16:36 Brooke          kia ora
16:34 oleonard        jcamins: Do I just run it?
16:34 wizzyrea        hehe
16:34 paul_p          wizzyrea, was about to hit "send" when you woohooed me. I've changed a little bit my email ;-)
16:34 oleonard        jcamins: I'm starting to test your local cover images patch but I forget how to use an atomicupdate script
16:33 wizzyrea        :)
16:33 kf              ignore me
16:33 fabio_t         good evening #koha!
16:33 kf              sorry, misread
16:33 kf              oh
16:33 kf              wizzyrea: I think jenkins is not done yet
16:33 wizzyrea        weeeeird
16:32 paul_p          wizzyrea, nope. I made nothing !
16:32 wizzyrea        woohoo! paul_p++
16:32 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7198 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED , overdue report does not display patron name if firstname and/or surname are null
16:31 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7159 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, wizzyrea, ASSIGNED , Add branchcode to circulation.pl search
16:31 jenkins_koha    * gmc: bug 7198: show patron name in overdue list even if name column is null
16:31 jenkins_koha    * lrea: Bug 7159 - Add branchcode to circulation.pl search (take two, revising with Owen's suggestion)
16:31 jenkins_koha    Project Koha_master build #564: FIXED in 53 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/564/
16:31 jenkins_koha    Yippie, build fixed!
16:30 slef            wizzyrea++
16:30 * wizzyrea      hates that.
16:30 wizzyrea        most of the ones that are super critical.
16:30 slef            grrrrrr what bloody business insists on phone contact yet closes their phones at 4pm?
16:30 wizzyrea        for a mac anyway
16:30 wizzyrea        really, it's the simplest.
16:29 wizzyrea        iphoto :P
16:29 jcamins         wizzyrea: yeah, but I didn't know what program to use.
16:28 kf              tcohen++
16:27 wizzyrea        small box, not a big box.
16:27 wizzyrea        or also, a card reader - I have a 20 in 1 that is about the size of a box of matches.
16:26 wizzyrea        also good: plug it in via the usb cable :P
16:26 jcamins         Thanks.
16:26 jcamins         Ah, good call.
16:26 nengard         i put the sd card in to the card reader and copy them
16:25 jcamins         nengard: how do you get the photos you take on your camera onto your Mac?
16:25 nengard         yes
16:25 jcamins         nengard: around?
16:19 reiveune        bye
16:17 oleonard        tcohen++ # for reporting on the Koha for Windows web page issue
16:15 oleonard        That was my initial thought as well
16:14 wizzyrea        if you want
16:14 wizzyrea        the OEMs can put android on, but you can just as easily nuke that off and put on your super open WebOS
16:14 wizzyrea        is that WebOS becomes the hacker's mobile platform
16:14 wizzyrea        what I'm hoping
16:12 wizzyrea        hehe np
16:12 * wizzyrea      found it
16:12 slef            I meant to get you the actual link :)
16:12 slef            http://www.andrewsavory.com/blog/2011/2168
16:11 slef            oops
16:11 slef            http://www.andrewsavory.com/blog/
16:11 slef            wizzyrea: have you seen what my former colleague savs wrote? I'm on a similar page.
16:11 wizzyrea        hehe no
16:11 slef            cool. Just checking they weren't a kids toy :)
16:11 wizzyrea        I think it's kind of cool.
16:11 wizzyrea        what do you think about hp open sourcing WebOS?
16:10 wizzyrea        oh slef
16:10 wizzyrea        they are the new model of the android tablet I have
16:10 slef            is transformer primes a model?
16:10 wizzyrea        were supposed to be out before xmas - but now delayed until beginning of year
16:09 wizzyrea        transformer primes are delayed though :(
16:07 wizzyrea        i have a bit of envy ;)
16:07 wizzyrea        I have an asus tablet that I adore, and trea has an asus ultrabook type lappy that is super swank.
16:06 slef            kf: good spotting. Thanks.
16:06 slef            wizzyrea: it's like what they made just as they started to figure out what they were doing
16:06 wizzyrea        :)
16:06 slef            wizzyrea: I think you might find it on antiques.asus.com
16:05 jcamins         Ohh, cool!
16:05 slef            wizzyrea: m5n
16:05 * wizzyrea      was thinking of buying an asus lapotp
16:05 wizzyrea        slef which asus computer do you have?
16:04 slef            seems like dpavlin may be the most knowledgeable
16:04 kf              slef: there is a new bug for ti too - seems it's still workign :)
16:03 * slef          says it in a wahanui-friendly way
16:03 slef            The svc API is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_/svc/_HTTP_API
16:03 kf              that page is very recent
16:03 slef            http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_/svc/_HTTP_API
16:03 jcamins         I'm not even sure what it's for.
16:02 slef            Has anyone used the svc API recently?
16:00 slef            hey, you can flash it from dos... that's better than needing to have Windows, which is often the case
16:00 jcamins         Hmmm. I think perhaps I'd better avoid ASUS MBs.
15:59 slef            jcamins: I suspect you can some BIOSes, but not this asus one.
15:59 slef            the system hangs for like 5s at random intervals
15:59 jcamins         You still can't flash a BIOS from Linux?
15:59 jcamins         Buggy BIOS?
15:59 jcamins         [off] slef: yeah, basically. He's our main contact.
15:59 jcamins         *come to the
15:59 jcamins         [off] slef: and when board meetings are held is apparently a secret. I have to the conclusion that they're doing the co-operativeness bit wrong.
15:58 slef            want to upgrade it to see if that stops it hanging, need to mess with freedos to do that, so waiting until after my next meeting before potentially breaking it all
15:58 slef            argh the buggy BIOS on this PC is bugging me!
15:57 slef            [off] jcamins: wtf is the broker? Like a Lettings Agent does for us?
15:56 wizzyrea        since on a normal day the tests pass on him just fine.
15:56 wizzyrea        which probably has all the stuff in it already.
15:56 jcamins         [off] slef: in the ongoing saga of our co-op application, the broker has announced that it will take another two months for us to hear from the management. After assuring us we'd know a week or at most two after we submitted it.
15:56 wizzyrea        or, we dump out the jenkins DB :p
15:56 slef            great venue... a bit overstretched admin
15:55 wizzyrea        (I'm working on getting a db ready that will have everything in it to make the unit tests pass when things are working correctly)
15:55 slef            I'm as frustrated as anyone that it's not sorted yet but it is worth it.
15:55 wizzyrea        I suspect that the reason I'm having trouble with the test is that I don't have the right things in my DB
15:55 jcamins         Fair enough.
15:54 wizzyrea        hdl - where does one define the stopwords?
15:54 slef            as soon as we get the venue fixed, I'll tell everyone...
15:54 * jcamins       's bated breath is running out. Don't keep us in suspense! :D
15:54 slef            s/run/journey
15:53 wizzyrea        weekends_off++
15:53 jcamins         slef: good for you.
15:53 slef            But seriously, I was doing another coast-to-coast run on Friday and then took my first weekend off in quite some time :)
15:53 jcamins         Mostly.
15:53 * jcamins       is patient.
15:53 slef            I've never been on IRC every day. Find me on xmpp/jabber if you want me sooner ;)
15:52 jcamins         Well, 5 days.
15:52 jcamins         :P
15:52 jcamins         slef: that was a week ago.
15:52 * wizzyrea      was going to give him a minute to get comfy in his chair.
15:52 slef            jcamins: bah. I was in the meeting last week.
15:52 * jcamins       waits eagerly for news about the conference. :)
15:52 jcamins         Ooh! It's a rare slef sighting!
15:52 wizzyrea        hi slef
15:51 slef            hi all
15:51 kf              but not looking at the code, only thinking I remember a conversation about this
15:50 kf              that was my last information and the syspref changed accordingly
15:50 kf              hm, I thought it was deactivated
15:50 paul_p          hdl1, yep, my feeling too
15:50 paul_p          (trying prove ...)
15:50 hdl1            paul_p: as far as i know, stopwords are still used when QueryRemoveStopwords is on even with zebra.
15:50 * paul_p        feel this is wrong : Use of uninitialized value within @_ in lc at /home/paul/koha.dev/koha-community//C4/Context.pm line 466.
15:48 paul_p          strange... no change in XISBN test since ... january...
15:48 wizzyrea        sure :)
15:47 * paul_p        now investigate jenkins failure...
15:47 * paul_p        feel this comment on the syspref is wrong. But not sure. wizzyrea could you drop a mail to koha-devel pls ?
15:45 paul_p          checking if it's true or not
15:45 paul_p          which says "Only applies when Zebra is off"
15:45 paul_p          wizzyrea, seems _remove_stopwords in C4/Search.pm is still used if QueryRemoveStopwords is set
15:45 wizzyrea        running it manually doesn't get that same result, but it does fail
15:44 paul_p          will investigate
15:44 paul_p          bad plan usually mean you've announced X tests at the beginning of your test plan, and you have M (M<>N)
15:44 huginn`         New commit(s) kohagit: bug 7198: show patron name in overdue list even if name column is null <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=18e06ecf0bfeeefd08575d0512891bea52bc1bde> / Bug 7159 - Add branchcode to circulation.pl search (take two, revising with Owen... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4fad65cc269b049043da2841b491b3c0132ff0e6>
15:44 mbalmer         schnauze voll,feierabend
15:42 wizzyrea        oh, no. The tests for xisbn died prematurely.
15:42 kf              hm?
15:41 wizzyrea        that looks like a test plan failure.
15:41 wizzyrea        hmm
15:41 * wizzyrea      was just about to look into it
15:40 kf              oh no, going unstable again :(
15:40 wizzyrea        I did it last week :)_
15:40 * paul_p        investigates
15:40 paul_p          about stopwords, I don't know
15:40 wizzyrea        no, they don't
15:39 paul_p          wizzyrea, chris told me those tests should pass if you just have your database with all the sample sql provided in installer/data/mysql/en
15:38 jenkins_koha    Starting build 564 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #562 3 j 0 h ago)
15:38 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7124 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Back to search wrapping in lower resolutions
15:38 jenkins_koha    oleonard: Fix for Bug 7124 - back to search wrapping in lower resolutions
15:38 jenkins_koha    Project Koha_master build #563: UNSTABLE in 53 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/563/
15:35 wizzyrea        is that right?
15:35 wizzyrea        but we can't do that anymore
15:35 wizzyrea        I suspect that it needs to have stopwords defined
15:34 wizzyrea        I can't tell what my db needs to have in it to pass those tests
15:34 wizzyrea        tests in db_dependent/Search.t
15:34 wizzyrea        question for you regarding the test for Search.t
15:34 paul_p          what's the question ?
15:34 wizzyrea        :D
15:34 wizzyrea        oh goodie
15:34 paul_p          yep
15:33 wizzyrea        ?
15:33 wizzyrea        paul_p, about
15:31 wizzyrea        it does that
15:30 wizzyrea        yes.
15:27 kf              wizzyrea: last time I listened to it the song followed me for a week
15:26 wizzyrea        I may have to listen to this to get me in the mood: http://soundcloud.com/dubstep/pumped-up-kicks-by-foster-the
15:25 wizzyrea        not a high bar. :P
15:25 wizzyrea        I'd settle for "something that means something to somebody"
15:24 jcamins         :D
15:24 * jcamins       looks at what's on his docket for today.
15:24 wizzyrea        well, revision
15:24 * jcamins       too.
15:24 wizzyrea        I'd settle for pretty darn neat.
15:24 wizzyrea        hm
15:24 jcamins         wizzyrea: something awesome?
15:23 * wizzyrea      fails
15:23 * wizzyrea      tries to remember what she was going to do this week
15:23 wizzyrea        see the tuning posts.
15:23 wizzyrea        ^^
15:23 kf              the default settings are not very good I was told
15:23 kf              to make it work
15:23 kf              I think you have to tell mysql to use that ram too
15:22 mbalmer         maybe I am just a bit to much used to our own web frameworks, which are blazingly fast (written in C and Lua).  But I found some RAMs that should fit and double the memory.
15:21 wahanui         hmmm... database tuning is at http://libraryhacker.org/2011/03/15/defaulting-to-functional-but-slow/ and http://drupal.biblibre.com/en/blog/entry/mysql-default-config-and-very-large-koha-database
15:21 wizzyrea        database tuning?
15:21 wizzyrea        database tuning is at http://libraryhacker.org/2011/03/15/defaulting-to-functional-but-slow/ and http://drupal.biblibre.com/en/blog/entry/mysql-default-config-and-very-large-koha-database
15:19 wizzyrea        and then there's paul_p's post in the comments
15:18 wizzyrea        http://libraryhacker.org/2011/03/15/defaulting-to-functional-but-slow/
15:17 wizzyrea        1s I'll find it
15:17 kf              mysqltuner or something?
15:17 kf              I think there is something in the mailing list archive
15:17 wizzyrea        there are a few posts on how to configure mysql
15:17 libsysguy       i knew i slept too long
15:17 kf              it's late afternoon - you missed everything
15:17 oleonard        Is there a wiki page on what the correct mysql configuration is?
15:16 libsysguy       anything going on this morning :p
15:16 libsysguy       hi kf :)
15:16 kf              hi libsysguy :)
15:16 kf              mbalmer: I think changing the default mysql configuration is good too
15:16 mbalmer         it's a test/demo machine only.
15:15 wizzyrea        so if you have some lying around I'd put it to work in your server.
15:15 wizzyrea        koha benefits greatly from more memory
15:14 wizzyrea        oh, that's why
15:14 mbalmer         3 (or 4) ghz pentium 4, 768MB ram
15:14 kf              and there are seveal things you can do to improve performance
15:14 wizzyrea        what kind of machine do you have it on
15:14 kf              you can activate memcache
15:13 kf              no mod_perl
15:13 mbalmer         my "library" feels a bit slow
15:13 mbalmer         oh, do I have to specifically enable mod_perl or is that on by default?
15:13 wizzyrea        tinychat has video capabilities
15:13 wizzyrea        what's the diff between tinychat and IRC?
15:12 * wizzyrea      uses a mac and wouldn't use ichat.
15:12 kf              what#s the difference to irc?
15:12 mbalmer         for those that use macs
15:12 wizzyrea        yeano
15:12 mbalmer         iChat ;)
15:11 wizzyrea        we could use something like tinychat instead
15:11 kf              it will certainly not be mandatory
15:11 mbalmer         I deleted my google accounts some weeks ago..
15:11 mbalmer         oh no.
15:11 kf              but hanging out in general is good too
15:11 kf              google+ hangout :)
15:10 mbalmer         hang out sounds like about right ;)
15:09 wizzyrea        O.o
15:09 magnuse         wizzyrea: you don't want to know ;-)
15:08 * wizzyrea      wonders what she's volunteering for
15:08 magnuse         cool
15:08 kf              and perhaps if we offer her fudge/chocolate/cookies wizzyrea will help too ;)
15:08 kf              magnuse: or hangout... or whatever we come up with
15:07 wizzyrea        hi :)
15:07 magnuse         kia ora wizzyrea
15:02 magnuse         so set a time and walk people through it on irc?
15:02 kf              how to sign off etc.
15:02 magnuse         ah, i should read up on that
15:02 kf              to schedule testing tutorials
15:01 kf              it was talked about at the irc meeting
15:01 magnuse         kf tutorials? sure... what kind?
14:58 magnuse         yay
14:58 wahanui         next gbsd is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/2012-01-06_Global_bug_squashing_day
14:58 magnuse         next gbsd?
14:58 magnuse         next gbsd is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/2012-01-06_Global_bug_squashing_day
14:58 wahanui         magnuse: I forgot next gbsd
14:58 magnuse         wahanui: forget next gbsd
14:58 wahanui         next gbsd is beginning of january?
14:58 magnuse         next gbsd
14:58 magnuse         next gbsd is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/2012-01-06_Global_bug_squashing_day
14:57 huginn`         oleonard: I've exhausted my database of quotes
14:57 oleonard        huginn`: Please pick one random, open, non-enhancement bug each day and complain hourly until it is fixed.
14:57 magnuse         bah
14:57 wahanui         next gbsd is beginning of january?
14:57 magnuse         next gbsd
14:57 kf              we should talk about tutorials before that :)
14:57 kf              magnuse: next gbsd is beginning of january?
14:57 kf              wonder who might be able to do something like that....
14:56 kf              "Bug of the day"
14:56 kf              I like the idea actually
14:56 kf              heh
14:54 * chris_n       digs out his WONTFIX rubber-stamp
14:51 oleonard        Or WONTFIXes it ;)
14:51 maximep         until someone fixes it
14:51 maximep         haha. Maybe they need to pick an old random bug and yell about it all day
14:50 oleonard        Maybe we'd get even more done if robots were yelling at us more often.
14:48 maximep         it was fun to see the community working together to make all the tests work on jenkins =)
14:47 magnuse         SUCCESS - woo hoo!
14:45 jenkins_koha    Starting build 563 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
14:40 huginn`         New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 7124 - back to search wrapping in lower resolutions <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a98219dc34a61806f856482ec68bcf27912270b6>
14:36 magnuse         bonjour!
14:36 maximep         hello!
14:35 kf              hi maximep :)
14:34 kf              :) all ok
14:34 kf              I see.
14:34 kf              ah a function
14:33 kf              from your description, was wondering if that's the table name .)
14:33 wahanui         kf is cait or really, really sweet. or <reply>she gives me memory loss
14:33 paul_p          kf ??
14:33 magnuse         ?
14:32 kf              list_versions_already_knows? :)
14:31 magnuse         \o
14:31 magnuse         paul_p++
14:31 * paul_p        go to mode "pushing patches..."
14:30 trea            o/
14:30 trea            kf! magnuse! hi!
14:29 kf              hi trea
14:29 magnuse         o/
14:19 kf              nengard: ah, no. only if you want to :) I can add a signed off patch for frederic's part tonight. I forgot to sign-off before I added the follow up
14:18 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7338 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED , link to serial detail wrong
14:18 nengard         kf do you still need me to test bug 7338 - can't tell from the comment stream
13:48 NateC           greetigns kf!
13:48 JesseM          hiya kf
13:47 kf              hi NateC and JesseM :)
13:43 NateC           kia ora magnuse!
13:43 magnuse         kia ora NateC
13:40 pajinek         paul_p: Hi Paul, thanks for advice. Now we try to find more people for translating. At the begining we will work on local system - we are only two. I will be bit patient. :)
13:39 * magnuse       too
13:38 nengard         me too!
13:38 kf              nengard: :( hope you feel better soon and no more 'surprises' like that
13:37 nengard         heh
13:37 jcamins         nengard: maybe the receptionist also has an MD?
13:36 nengard         hmmm .. doctor's office opens at 8:30 - but theyre not picking up at 8:34 ? grrr
13:31 magnuse         there are some tips here: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Translating_Koha
13:30 paul_p          (like poedit, localize, ...)
13:30 paul_p          pajinek, note that, if you plan to work heavily on this translation, as you'll be alone at the beginning, it's much more efficient to work on your local computer, with a standard po editor
13:30 pajinek         magnuse: yes, it was first activity, that i did.
13:29 paul_p          magnuse, I think so. pajinek just be a little bit patient, and Frédéric, our translation manager should take care of you
13:29 magnuse         someone will pick that up and set up the files for you
13:29 paul_p          hi pajinek, here is Paul, from France
13:29 magnuse         pajinek: you already sent an email to the translate-list right?
13:27 pajinek         Hi, we would like to work on translate for czech language. We use koha for a faculty's library. Can you help me, how we can do it? We registered in translate.koha-community.org. Thanks.
13:27 nengard         on the plus side - I get to stay home this week - and the airline didn't charge me for cancelling since I fly them all the time and never cancel and have a good excuse :)
13:26 nengard         :)
13:24 * magnuse       too
13:22 * jcamins       too.
13:22 * nengard       agrees with oleonard
13:22 nengard         waiting for the doc office to open so i can schedule the surgery
13:22 jcamins         oleonard: don't use the patch I sent you. I was just sending that so you'd have an idea of what it looked like, in case I didn't have a finished patch.
13:22 * oleonard      thinks nengard deserves a break she can't seem to get
13:22 nengard         just got told i need to have my gall bladder taken out this week!!!! no fatty foods :(
13:22 nengard         no fudge for nicole this holiday :(
13:22 * magnuse       offers kf a bribe of marzipan for doing the norwegian translations
13:21 kf              fudge!
13:21 kf              yay
13:21 oleonard        Okay. I hope I'll have time today to take a first look
13:21 jcamins         Yep.
13:21 * jcamins       tempts kf with fudge.
13:21 magnuse         oleonard: same thing, i think... ;-) (picture viewer?)
13:21 kf              *sigh*
13:20 kf              noone wants to bribe me
13:20 oleonard        Are you bribing me for the same thing magnuse or something else? :)
13:18 * magnuse       joins jcamins in tempting oleonard, and adds some marzipan to the bribes ;-)
13:17 kf              hi nengard :)
13:16 magnuse         kia ora nengard
13:16 nengard         hello all
13:15 oleonard        :)
13:15 * jcamins       tempts oleonard with fudge.
13:15 magnuse         hiya oleonard
13:15 magnuse         comes in handy every now and then... ;-)
13:14 oleonard        Hi #koha
13:14 jcamins         I should probably set one of those up.
13:14 jcamins         magnuse: thanks.
13:12 magnuse         some day i will reset the database every day too...
13:11 magnuse         jcamins: for future reference, i have an installation running master here: head.bibkat.no:8080 login: demo/demo. it's updated automatically every day
13:10 kf              marcelr++
13:07 kf              :)
13:06 jcamins         It's a good idea. :)
13:05 jcamins         I just couldn't quite identify what was different about the page.
13:05 jcamins         That makes sense.
13:04 kf              giving it a bit more room
13:04 kf              no I think itw as intention
13:04 jcamins         So there's no bug.
13:04 kf              no worries :)
13:04 jcamins         Thanks.
13:04 jcamins         That's it.
13:04 jcamins         Oooh.
13:04 kf              is it because the navigation is below the table now?
13:04 jcamins         This is why I wanted to know if you had an install of Master.
13:03 kf              ok
13:03 jcamins         I don't know!
13:03 kf              I need a little bit more informaton :)
13:03 kf              looks wrong like?
13:03 jcamins         The edit items screen looks wrong, but I can't decide if I'm imagining it or not.
13:02 kf              what's the question?
13:02 kf              hm not right now
13:01 jcamins         kf: do you have an install of Master?
13:01 kf              vfernandes: it will work out :)
12:58 vfernandes      thanks jcamins and kf... i was a little worried because the first Koha that i've configured it onl had one library
12:57 jcamins         You bet. :)
12:56 vfernandes      so it's possible to check out books from other libraries :D
12:55 vfernandes      hummm ok
12:47 kf              and you are not away..
12:47 kf              what jcamins_away said :)
12:47 kf              vfernandes: this will be the home library for the user
12:47 jcamins_away    vfernandes: it doesn't matter which library they're associated with.
12:45 vfernandes      but when you create a patron you need to associate a library
12:43 jcamins_away    vfernandes: yes, you just use multiple branches.
12:39 vfernandes      it's possible to do this in Koha?
12:39 vfernandes      i need to have 6 libraries on the instance... and the users are the same for each library and can borrow items on each library
12:38 vfernandes      today i'm starting configuring a Koha for another client.... but i have a doubt...
12:37 vfernandes      hi Koha people
12:02 mbalmer         actually quite usable
12:01 mbalmer         let's see how it looks on the ipad
12:00 kf              but it's a start
12:00 mbalmer         but, hmm, actually a nice idea...
12:00 kf              oooh
12:00 mbalmer         only the IRC channel ;)
12:00 kf              quite cool
11:59 kf              mbalmer: koha on an ipad?
11:35 mbalmer         koha now on my ipad as well
11:35 huginn`         New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6374] Use "size" as names/hash keys leads to an unexpected results when using Template::Toolkit (name of a virtual method there) <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6374>
11:07 kf              zipporah: http://manual.koha-community.org/3.6/en/patroninformation.html
11:03 kf              administration > authorized values
10:58 zipporah        kf: Where do I look up that MAN_INV  type?
10:56 zipporah        kf: Yes I would like to upgrade but I fear losing the Data. I have ready more about upgrading but it sounds somehow completed as it requires a lot of online processes and one needs have a very good communication lines and some good understanding of Linux commands. The one I did was using Koha  Live CD , if there is a way of using an upgrade of Koha Live CD
10:54 kf              zipporah: it's really not that hard to set up, you need values for a type call MAN_INV
10:50 kf              because 3.2 is quite old now already, current stable version is 3.6.1
10:50 kf              and you should consider updateing
10:50 wahanui         documentation is at http://koha-community.org/documentation/
10:49 kf              documentation?
10:49 kf              check out the documentation
10:49 kf              zipporah: sorry, no
10:46 zipporah        kf: It is 3.2 , I am quite a newbie to Koha especially on this Authorized value aspect. Can you you email me how to do all these fee types with an authorized value so that I can print it off and follow properly. My email  is chisangaz@gmail.com ; I will very much appreciate.
10:40 kf              but you can create your own fee types with an authorized value called MAN_INV
10:39 kf              I am not sure that#s in 3.2
10:39 kf              you could have one and create fees with those types in that accound
10:39 zipporah        kf: Thanks, So I need to create a patron for each type of transaction. Say one for Photocopying, one for Sundry Temporary reading, etc?
10:34 kf              not sure about patron cards and that version
10:33 kf              if you want to track the money
10:33 kf              you could create a patron for that purpuse
10:30 zipporah        Also in your own experiences, what is the best way of charging non-patrons eg. for photocopying, reading books without checking out?. The point here is that they are not registered as Patrons hence they cannot be looked up in the Search for Circulation.
10:26 zipporah        Can someone out there help me on how to create and print Patron Cards in Koha 3.02 . In Tools there are only things like managing only.
10:01 mbalmer         (switching offices)
10:01 mbalmer         see you on the other side...
09:52 sophie_m        Guten Morgen kf :-)
09:52 kf              hi sophie_m :)
09:40 magnuse         is that fair, is all i ask ;-)
09:40 magnuse         hehe
09:40 kf              yes, those who can read have a clear advantage
09:40 magnuse         yup
09:39 magnuse         OPACPrivacy - ___ patrons to choose their own privacy settings for their reading history. This requires opacreadinghistory and AnonymousPatron
09:39 kf              you also need opacreadinghistory
09:39 kf              oh
09:39 kf              out of ideas then :(
09:39 kf              that wasn't the problem
09:39 kf              hm no
09:36 magnuse         ah
09:35 kf              I forgot the anonymous patron
09:35 kf              oh
09:35 magnuse         isn't there a syspref?
09:35 kf              what do i need to do to make the opacprivacy page show up?
09:35 kf              hm
09:14 kf              yeah it is :)
09:12 mbalmer         ok, SWB-BW found my book.  amazing how much data can be associated with a simple book on GUI programming ;)
09:11 magnuse         doh!
09:11 kf              yes, I think they have more but they are not free/public
09:09 magnuse         it's listed, but with [none] for record syntaxes
09:09 kf              I think they have one but it's not public
09:05 magnuse         but not for the German National Library - weird
09:05 mbalmer         so let's see if SWB-BW is any good ;)
09:05 magnuse         yup, for most of the entries in IRSpy there is a field called "Record syntaxes"
09:04 mbalmer         ah, the syntaxes are listed.
09:04 mbalmer         how do I find out if they do?
09:03 kf              those who speak usmarc should work
09:02 mbalmer         now that I have thos z39.50 targets, how can I find out if they "speak" a MARC dialect?  German National Library seems to support only SUTRS
08:59 magnuse         ah
08:59 kf              magnuse: it's not that we have not thought about it
08:58 magnuse         kf: maybe you could/should consider hosting a german demo installation? :-)
08:57 mbalmer         I am trying to populate my demo library ;)  tnx for the links!
08:57 kf              germany even
08:56 kf              or at the page magnus gave you - search for country = german
08:56 magnuse         http://irspy.indexdata.com/find.html?cql.anywhere=&dc.title=&zeerex.country=Germany&net.protocol=z39.50&net.host=&net.port=&net.path=&zeerex.reliabilityAtLeast=&zeerex.libType=&dc.description=&dc.creator=&_sort=&_search=Search&_count=10&_skip=0
08:56 mbalmer         kf, ok.
08:56 magnuse         http://irspy.indexdata.com/
08:56 kf              look where I work
08:55 kf              hm yes
08:55 rangi           Koha will work with any Z39.50
08:55 mbalmer         can anyone hint me at a z39.50 server that has german title (deutsch nationalbibliothek) and that works with Koha?
08:51 AmitG           heya hdl
08:46 kf              hi francharb
08:44 francharb       hi magnuse
08:44 magnuse         bonjour francharb
08:26 magnuse         yeah, better to code with your eyes closed
08:26 kf              did you look at Search.pm?
08:26 mbalmer         I was looking at some of the code, now my eyes are bleeding ;)
08:24 paul_p          :D
08:24 rangi           :)
08:24 magnuse         this just in from twitter: "Trolls are huge, smelly, man eating beasts who can smell human blood miles away. And that is why Norway has got free healthcare"
08:24 magnuse         almost xmas ;-)
08:24 kf              yay :)
08:24 magnuse         yay!
08:24 kf              it's monday and #koha is being silly
08:24 magnuse         well, yeah i knew there was something wrong with what i said earlier...
08:24 kf              lol
08:23 rangi           the trolls might get it
08:23 paul_p          magnuse, set the worm free ? in december and in Norway ? You like frozen worm, really ? :D :D
08:22 * magnuse       has done quite a lot of fly fishing, but never ever used live bait
08:22 magnuse         yeah...
08:21 kf              magnuse: make sure the birds don't get it
08:21 magnuse         rangi: goody!
08:21 magnuse         nah, i'll set it free and let it roam through the woods again
08:21 rangi           recovering well
08:21 magnuse         rangi: how's the kid?
08:21 kf              mbalmer: he will probably go fishing with it
08:21 magnuse         ata marie rangi
08:20 kf              evening rangi
08:20 rangi           evening
08:20 magnuse         ooh, thanks!
08:20 * mbalmer       hands the worm to magnuse ...
08:19 magnuse         mbalmer: the early bird gets the worm (not sure why you'd want it, though ;-)
08:19 kf              god morgen magnuse :)
08:19 mbalmer         good morning.   way tooo early...
08:19 AmitG           heya kf, magnus_afk
08:19 magnus_afk      kia ora kf mbalmer gaetan_B paul_p & #koha
08:18 kf              good morning again #koha
08:18 kf              back :)
08:13 gaetan_B        hello
08:08 paul_p          hello wahanui & al ;-)
08:05 wahanui         hello, julian_m
08:05 julian_m        hi
07:57 reiveune        hello
07:50 huginn`         New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7338] link to serial detail wrong <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7338>
07:45 AmitG           heya indradg
07:30 cait            bonjour alex_a
07:28 alex_a          morning #koha
06:53 huginn`         magnus_afk: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -1.0�C (7:20 AM CET on December 12, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: -7.0�C. Windchill: -8.0�C. Pressure: 29.44 in 997 hPa (Steady).
06:53 magnus_afk      @wunder boo
06:21 AmitG           heya Robin
05:46 eythian         heh
05:46 * cait          is not awake yet
05:46 cait            right
05:46 cait            oh
05:46 eythian         you mean late?
05:46 cait            it' searly for you
05:46 wahanui         que tal, eythian
05:46 eythian         hi there
05:46 cait            hey eythian
05:46 eythian         hmm, not bad.
05:46 huginn`         eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 17.0�C (6:00 PM NZDT on December 12, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
05:46 eythian         @wunder wellington, nz
05:43 cait            ooh
05:42 bag             matter
05:42 bag             I'm freezing no moatter
05:42 cait            not even that is cold :)
05:41 huginn`         cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 2.5�C (6:34 AM CET on December 12, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Windchill: 2.0�C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011.1 hPa (Steady).
05:41 cait            @wunder konstanz
05:41 cait            that's not cold
05:40 bag             cold here
05:40 huginn`         bag: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 7.6�C (9:37 PM PST on December 11, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 97%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Windchill: 8.0�C. Pressure: 29.82 in 1009.7 hPa (Rising).
05:40 bag             @wunder 93109
05:31 druthb          oh, back above freezing.  Was about 10 below last week.
05:30 huginn`         druthb: The current temperature in Dunham Park, Sioux Falls, South Dakota is 1.3�C (11:28 PM CST on December 11, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: 1.0�C. Windchill: 1.0�C. Pressure: 30.03 in 1016.8 hPa (Falling).
05:30 druthb          @wunder 57103    #my official address
05:30 cait            go to sleep :)
05:30 druthb          brr
05:30 cait            hm, could be worse
05:30 huginn`         cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 2.6�C (6:24 AM CET on December 12, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Windchill: 3.0�C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011.1 hPa (Steady).
05:30 cait            @wunder Konstanz
05:30 * druthb        makes evil eyeballs at BobB.
05:29 huginn`         druthb: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 19.0�C (4:00 PM EST on December 12, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 15.0�C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Steady).
05:29 druthb          @wunder Sydney, New South Wales
05:29 huginn`         druthb: The current temperature in APRSWXNET Denison/Sherman TX US, Pottsboro, Texas is 6.7�C (11:03 PM CST on December 11, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: -3.0�C. Windchill: 7.0�C. Pressure: 30.23 in 1023.6 hPa.
05:29 druthb          @wunder 75076
05:11 cait            hi AmitG
05:11 AmitG           heya cait
05:11 cait            hi druthb :)
05:11 druthb          hi, cait. :)
05:10 cait            hi #koha
04:57 druthb          Hi, Bob and Amit. :)
04:52 AmitG           heya druthb
04:49 BobB            hi Ruth
04:49 BobB            hi AmitG
04:47 druthb          o/
04:45 AmitG           heya BobB
04:41 BobB            Yes indeed, all well.
04:40 kmkale          yes BobB how about you & Irma?
04:39 BobB            Is all good with you?
04:39 BobB            :)
04:38 kmkale          Namaste BobB :)
04:38 BobB            hi kmkale
04:38 kmkale          Namaskaar #koha
03:31 bag             hello AmitG
03:31 AmitG           :D
03:31 AmitG           good morning koha:D
03:31 AmitG           heya bag :D
01:23 huginn`         New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 1633] Add ability to take book cover images from local img db <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1633>
01:00 Cul             Hello Koha