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00:09 jcamins_away trea! I was just thinking about you.
00:10 trea uh oh
00:10 trea ^.^
00:11 jcamins_away I was thinking that it's too bad I can't change the reporter of bug 6385 to you. ;)
00:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6385 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , All items should optionally be displayed by default
00:12 jcamins_away And bug 5785, too.
00:12 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5785 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , Holds should catch new acquisitions
00:12 jcamins_away And probably a few others.
00:12 trea por que
00:13 jcamins_away 'Cause I have no interest in the issues I reported, and I'd like to have fewer results show up in my "My bugs" list.
00:13 jcamins_away ;)
00:14 jcamins_away Note, I didn't say this was of vital importance. ;)
00:15 trea you're just sick of looking at them. got it. :D
00:15 jcamins_away Perfectly logical, no?
00:45 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5211] marking lost (long overdue) not charging fines <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5211>
01:00 * jcamins_away observes that "signing off on patches" and "writing follow-up patches" seems to have an almost-constant ratio of 1:1 for him.
03:00 * eythian builds 3.6.1 packages
03:09 eythian new 3.1 packages uploading
03:09 eythian *3.6.1
03:29 AmitG heya rangi
03:33 eythian new master packages uploading. Now it's beer o'clock
03:33 jcamins_away eythian++
03:38 jcamins_away beeroclock++
04:13 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6489] cancelling hold from holds awaiting pickup does not trigger transit <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6489>
05:17 cait hi #koha
06:12 rangi hey cait
06:12 cait hi rangi
06:57 Oak kia ora #koha
06:57 Oak Guten Morgen miss cait :)
06:59 cait Salaam mr Oak :)
07:01 Oak @wunder Konstanz
07:01 huginn Oak: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 2.0�C (7:54 AM CET on December 02, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 97%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Windchill: 2.0�C. Pressure: 29.99 in 1015.5 hPa (Falling).
07:01 Oak hmm
07:01 Oak sunny
07:02 rangi @wunder wellington nz
07:02 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 19.0�C (7:00 PM NZDT on December 02, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Falling).
07:03 Oak Hello rangi :)
07:03 rangi hi Oak
07:06 cait1 huh
07:06 sijobl with less than a month till #3 is due
07:06 rangi what happened then?
07:07 sijobl oops
07:07 sijobl feh
07:07 * sijobl goes back to bemoaning the lack of application of the cricketers
07:07 sijobl every time I hear "no ball" I think matchfixing
07:10 rangi heh
07:20 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 3216] UNIMARC author facets <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3216>
07:46 reiveune hi
07:46 sophie_m hello
07:49 julian_m hi!
07:56 rangi good morning france :)
08:00 alex_a morning !
08:08 francharb hello koha
08:10 magnuse kia ora #koha
08:11 AmitG heya magnuse
08:11 magnuse namaste AmitG
08:11 AmitG aah namaste
08:12 Oak magnuse
08:12 magnuse Oak
08:13 asaurat hi all!
08:14 magnuse bonjour asaurat
08:19 paul_p hello everybody
08:20 christophe_c hello
08:26 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7285] ILSDI service AuthenticatePatron doesn't work <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7285>
09:22 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7287] overdue notification is processed several times if some sites do not have rules <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7287>
09:24 slef morning all
09:24 magnuse kia ora slef
09:24 slef BobB: (or anyone) is it right that no-one from the HLT committee have sent a "great, how do you want to do the transfer?" email? (claimed in comments on Exemplar of Stupid)
09:26 magnuse i don't know, but i have a feeling both sides might be waiting for the other one to take the first step...
09:29 clrh_ hello
09:29 magnuse hiya kf and clrh_
09:30 magnuse hiya clrh
09:30 clrh :)
09:32 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7266] overdue.pl : filter on flags "debarred" "suspended" and "gonenoaddress" not working <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7266>
09:33 magnuse community day at biblibre?
09:33 clrh yep magnuse :)
09:34 kf hi #koha :)
09:34 kf biblibre++ :)
09:34 magnuse biblibre++
09:35 magnuse 105 bugs need signoff...
09:35 rangi biblibre++
09:35 rangi there were 115 when i started
09:35 magnuse yay!
09:35 magnuse rangi++
09:35 rangi ppl keep adding more as i sign them off tho
09:35 kf unfair hehe
09:35 magnuse yeah
09:35 kf rangi++
09:36 rangi i might sign some more off
09:36 rangi if atarau wakes me up in the middle of the night again
09:36 magnuse i wish i could do some too, but i really got to focus on some other stuff at the moment
09:36 magnuse like keeping my customers happy...
09:37 magnuse go atarau! ;-)
09:37 magnuse how's the pox coming along?
09:37 rangi he's in the itchy and ouchy phase
09:37 rangi lots of crying
09:38 kf :(
09:42 magnuse oh my
09:56 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7299] ILSDI HoldItem service does't set the itemnumber in reserves table <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7299> / [Bug 4051] add columns to overdues export <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4051>
09:58 rangi hmm silence
09:58 rangi i should try to sleep now
09:58 kf and I have the next meeting
09:58 kf_mtg night rangi
09:58 rangi cya kf_mtg
09:59 rangi cya everyone else happy bug squashing
10:00 magnuse hope you have a peaceful night rangi
10:06 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6836] jQuery plugin Datatables integration <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6836> / [Bug 6838] Filtering and pagination in subscriptions table <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6838>
10:20 paul_p slef++
10:20 paul_p (this thread about TM become ridiculous...)
10:21 sophie_m I take Bug 5877 for signoff
10:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5877 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , Offline circulation improvements : upload all files, apply at once
10:24 syed hi all...
10:33 syed Q1) I have "placehold" a book on OPAC which has only 1 copy ... but the same time the other users also placing hold to this book., I have tried with 5 users they all place hold the same book....
10:33 syed Q2) I have "check out" this book to user1... same time user1 have this book on hold also
10:37 syed after "check out" the OPAC not displaying any status on new search that (e.g. "checked out" or "on hold")
10:38 syed any help plz...
10:45 slef wahanui: Exemplar of Stupid is http://diligentroom.wordpress.com/2011/11/22/the-exemplar-of-stupid-koha-vs-liblime-trademark/
10:45 wahanui OK, slef.
11:17 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7276] member entry Performance improvement <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7276>
11:32 chris_n cfouts is a real troll imho
11:47 slef chris_n: as opposed to a fake troll?
12:08 chris_n lol
12:27 magnuse "Trollhunter" - best Norwegian film of 2010 ;-) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1740707/
12:37 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6147] Reading RSS feeds via Netvibes <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6147>
12:43 semarie hi, I have a problem with, I think, ENH_5528 (Analytic records support)
12:45 semarie when I import a particular notice from Z3950, a HTTP/500 occurs
12:46 semarie after tracing, the imported notice have a 461$0 field (notice unimarc), and this field is used by analytic records
12:48 druthb o/
12:55 semarie does someone known about ENH_5528 (Analytic records support) ?
12:56 jwagner semarie, kf and jcamins have done some work in that area, and neither of them appears to be online at the moment. You can try again later -- they should be back in a bit.
12:57 semarie jwagner: ok, I will try later. thanks
12:59 sekjal semarie: you can read some of jcamins notes here: http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commit;h=f09e2ca27ee89860dbdd0ca512735f37fbfaf8a6
12:59 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7169] Change booksellers search results display <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7169> / [Bug 7175] Improve order receiving page <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7175> / [Bug 7178] Improve order item creation <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7178>
13:00 semarie sekjal: I have near the same reading, using bugzilla (5528) :-) thanks
13:02 sekjal semarie: thought you might... but figured I'd give being helpful a try. too early here yet (8am)
13:11 jcamins_away semarie: how can I help you?
13:11 jcamins_away :)
13:12 semarie jcamins_away: hi
13:12 semarie jcamins: I have a imported notice from Z3950, which have a 461$0 field set (we use unimarc)
13:13 semarie this field is used by analytic record, and in additems.pl, a HTTP/500 occurs...
13:13 jcamins Just to confirm I understand, notice=bib record?
13:13 jcamins sekjal: thanks!
13:14 semarie yes
13:14 semarie the marcxml imported contains 461$0 set with something which is not what koha expect
13:15 semarie s/set/setted/
13:15 jcamins "set" works in that context, actually. :)
13:15 semarie sorry, english is not my native language... :-)
13:15 sekjal np, jcamins, such fixes will make my life easier when I start using packages
13:16 jcamins semarie: hm. Yeah, I see the problem.
13:17 jcamins semarie: there should be a check for the EasyCatalogingInterface syspref around the entire analytics handling code in that file.
13:17 jcamins Lines 547-565.
13:18 jcamins Not EasyCatalogingInterface.
13:18 jcamins The right syspref.
13:18 * jcamins is pretty sleepy today. The heat was on all night so his allergies are something awful.
13:19 semarie jcamins: yes, $hostrecord is deferenced for field, but is undefined (err line 558)
13:20 jcamins semarie: if I send you a patch, would you file a bug, sign-off, and attach?
13:20 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6132] System preferences are case sensitive <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6132> / [Bug 7307] OPACBaseURL not used in opac-search.pl <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7307> / [Bug 7180] Order from staged file improvements <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7180>
13:21 semarie I think yes, but for sign-off it is more complex as we don't use master, so I can't really test
13:21 jcamins semarie: how did you encounter the error, then?
13:22 semarie jcamins: just after z3950 import, and before enter any items
13:22 jcamins semarie: oh, I just realized you mean you use 3.6.
13:22 semarie the page is /cataloguing/additem.pl
13:22 semarie jcamins: yes 3.6 is used
13:23 jcamins semarie: sorry, as I said, bad allergies = sleepy Jared.
13:23 jcamins Did you file a bug for it yet?
13:23 jcamins If not, I'll just file a bug, and attach my proposed patch.
13:24 semarie jcamins: not yet
13:24 jcamins Okay, filing one now.
13:24 semarie jcamins: ok
13:28 clrh I would really like to push here: http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=wip/koha-biblibre.git;a=summary who can authorise me and my team to do it?
13:29 clrh gmcharlt: could you do something for me?
13:29 zipporah I am Koha 3.2 running on Linux , I am looking at SQL Report Library but I cannot find how to get New Cards fees into Koha systems before I can produce such report, same goes with Sundry Fees, Payment reports. How can I input the information?
13:30 oleonard zipporah: Are you asking how to get the report or how to set up the fees?
13:32 jcamins semarie: bug 7311.
13:32 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7311 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED , Error when records have UNIMARC 461$0 or 773$0 for something other than bibnumber
13:32 semarie jcamins: ok, I will see
13:33 zipporah cleonard: I am asking how the fees are input into the system before the highlighted SQL reports can run to produce the reports. I have not seen any window from the Client Home page for this purpose .
13:33 jcamins semarie: it should apply on 3.6.
13:34 oleonard zipporah: new card fees are called "enrollment fee" in the English translation, and can be set up when you set up your patron categories under Administration
13:36 zipporah cleonard: how are enrolled fees submitted to the system?. Is it on the Patron enrollment form?
13:37 zipporah cleonard: I think u have answered the question on enrollment fees. How about these other fees like Sundry fees?
13:38 semarie jcamins: HTTP/500, but not the same as before: Global symbol "@hostitemnumbers" requires explicit package name (cataloguing/additem.pl line 601)
13:39 oleonard Sundry fees, as far as I know, are fees which have been manually entered by the staff via the "create manual invoice" link on a patron's fines page
13:39 oleonard zipporah: When you register a new patron the enrollment fee is added to their account I think
13:40 zipporah Also the Forgiven Fines do not show up. Have I missed activating some option for that?
13:40 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7311] Error when records have UNIMARC 461$0 or 773$0 for something other than bibnumber <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7311>
13:43 zipporah cleonard: You are being quite helpful though I cannot see the "create manual invoice" link anywhere .
13:44 oleonard zipporah: Open a patron account in circulation. Click the "fines" tab on the left. The resulting page will have a "create manual invoice" tab in the body of the page
13:44 gmcharlt clrh: still need your key set up to push to koha-biblibre?
13:50 zipporah cleonard: Under Circulation, there only the following links: Check Out, Check In, Transfer and Set Library. So I am unable to see how to Open a patron account in circulation. Are maybe saying I should go ti Patrons tab?
13:51 oleonard zipporah: Scan or type a patron barcode in the "check out" form
13:52 jcamins semarie: revised patch attached.
13:57 * kf_mtg waves
13:57 zipporah cleonard: Thanks a lot, I have got it now. Is there a good PDF Manual for all this? I would need to download it.
13:57 kf documentation?
13:57 wahanui i guess documentation is at http://koha-community.org/documentation/
13:58 oleonard zipporah: The only pdf you'll find there is for 3.0, so it may not be entirely accurate depending on the version you're running
13:58 oleonard Oh sorry, I see there's a 3.2 version too
13:59 oleonard I wonder, if we offered a zipped archive of the online version would people accept that instead of a PDF?
13:59 zipporah cleonard: I am running 3.2 from LiveCD.
14:00 zipporah cleonard: a zipped will do as well.
14:01 clrh gmcharlt: do you have our keys? should I sent them to you?
14:01 clrh I thought someone did it
14:02 clrh gmcharlt: So I do a mail for you :)
14:02 zipporah cleonard: where is the 3.2 version manual?
14:02 gmcharlt clrh: sure
14:02 oleonard zipporah: At the link wahanui pointed out above
14:02 oleonard zipporah: I hope you've been to http://www.koha-community.org/ before?
14:04 zipporah cleonard: but there I could only see a 3.2 in HTML, let me verify that.
14:04 semarie jcamins: HTTP/500 same problem (see bugzilla for detail)
14:04 jcamins semarie: that's unfortunate.
14:04 semarie jcamins: I could try to patch, test, and you review my patch ?
14:04 oleonard http://koha-community.org/wp-content/uploads/kohadocs/en/koha3-2manual-en.pdf
14:05 jcamins semarie: sure, I won't be able to look until tomorrow, though- I'm about to leave.
14:05 jcamins semarie: if you can patch, that's much better. :)
14:05 semarie jcamins: as I now understand the problem, I could try to resolv it
14:05 jcamins Thanks!
14:06 * jcamins will sign off.
14:06 magnus_afk semarie++ jcamins++
14:06 zipporah cleonard: Thanks once more. I am getting it right away.
14:07 oleonard jcamins++ # He's been busy lately!
14:18 oleonard biblibre++ # for lots of bug-wrangling today
14:24 sekjal oleonard: lots of new reports for the new acq features they mentioned at KohaCon
14:28 paul_p and the patch should follow (not today, of course, it's a medium term work)
14:32 * chris_n tries to dig out from under the pile of work
14:33 clrh gmcharlt: mail sent - thanks
14:33 * magnus_afk hands wizzyrea the velcro
14:34 lizzy O.o
14:34 magnuse yay
14:35 wizzyrea persistent
14:35 magnuse wassup?
14:35 wizzyrea hi maximep
14:35 * kf waves at maximep
14:39 maximep good morning =)
14:42 * oleonard launches Jing, goes to get coffee, cook a turducken.
14:43 wizzyrea O.o it really takes that long?
14:43 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6836] jQuery plugin Datatables integration <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6836>
14:44 oleonard Today it did for some reason
14:45 * chris_n looks into 6836
14:50 wizzyrea bug 6836
14:50 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6836 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, julian.maurice, ASSIGNED , jQuery plugin Datatables integration
14:53 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6751] Link in readingrec.pl to export a barcode file <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6751>
14:55 chris_n heya wizzyrea
14:55 wahanui I LIKE SCIENCE!
14:56 chris_n really?
14:58 wizzyrea *nod*
15:05 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6858] Adds staticfines.pl for static fines processing <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6858>
15:14 sekjal fredericd++ (for work on bug 3216)
15:14 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3216 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, NEW , UNIMARC author facets
15:14 oleonard I put an IMO on Bug 7186, and I'd be interested in hearing others'
15:14 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7186 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, mtj, ASSIGNED , add new 'Koha Stats' tab to 'About' page
15:19 sekjal oleonard: my opinions added
15:19 clrh oleonard: erf, the status stay at "needs sign of" even if importance is not patch-sent? Oo :/
15:20 oleonard Yeah, I'm not sure how that happens
15:20 sekjal importance = patch-sent only controls the display of "patch status"
15:20 sekjal doesn't actually change it's value at all
15:20 oleonard I guess we usually don't have the statuses change in that direction
15:21 clrh I put "patch-sent" and "need sign off" the first time and it was a mistake so I removed "patch-sent" I and thought "needs sign off was removed automatically...
15:22 clrh giid to know that
15:22 clrh thanks for correction
15:22 magnuse sekjal: there are no "Facebook/Twitter API calls in OPACMySummaryHTML" - it's just another textarea you can put html and some variables into
15:23 sekjal magnuse: right
15:23 magnuse just sayin' ;-)
15:23 sekjal that's what I meant to say
15:23 magnuse ah, cool
15:25 sekjal magnuse: updated bug with clarification
15:25 magnuse yay
15:25 * oleonard could have sworn he's seen Bug 7154 before
15:25 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7154 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, jonathan.druart, ASSIGNED , Group borrower attributes and link between patron category and attribute
15:26 oleonard Oh yeah, I tested it. Seems like it was longer ago.
15:27 * oleonard 's sense of time as tracked by Bug numbers is off
15:27 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7154] Group borrower attributes and link between patron category and attribute <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7154>
15:31 gmcharlt @quote random
15:31 huginn` gmcharlt: Quote #6: "gmcharlt: kf: hold requests are a plot to sell more aspirin ;)" (added by wizzyrea at 04:13 PM, June 16, 2009)
15:36 jcamins Good morning, #koha.
15:37 oleonard Is it accurate to say that if an item has something entered in materials specified that it "contains multiple parts"
15:37 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6663] would be nice to put ranges of dates in the calendar <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6663>
15:37 * oleonard isn't familiar with usage of materials specified
15:37 jcamins oleonard: no.
15:38 * oleonard is testing Bug 7278
15:38 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7278 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , In the items table, make items.materials of type text, and show its contents at circulation
15:38 kf I whink we would use it for something like + 3 CDs
15:38 kf oleonard++ - that was on my list too :)
15:38 oleonard When I check out something which has a materials specified note, the checkout screen says "This item contains multiple parts: " + my note
15:38 kf makes sense to me
15:39 kf I think our libraries would use it for books with cds
15:39 kf where the cds have no separate barcodes
15:39 kf or language courses with cassettes/cds and booklets in a box
15:39 oleonard jcamins: But you say that isn't necessarily accurate?
15:40 jcamins oleonard: some libraries will use "materials specified" to indicate that they have only a portion of the item.
15:40 jcamins For example, "first gathering."
15:41 jcamins So, the item might have only one part, but the particular library doesn't have the whole thing.
15:42 sekjal so, essentially, if you still think of this in terms of 'number of parts', it's not a integer, but a rational number
15:42 oleonard We need something less specific than "This item contains multiple parts: "
15:43 oleonard "Note about the accompanying materials:" ?
15:44 jcamins Makes sense to me.
15:44 sekjal so long as the text is wrapped in a div with ID, we don't need to worry too much about the exact text
15:44 sekjal so long as it's generically 'good enough'
15:44 jcamins True.
15:48 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5347] late order management <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5347>
15:48 moodaepo magnuse++ # trollhunter was indeed awesome
15:48 magnuse yay!
15:49 magnuse probably a rip-off of "blair witch", but i love the way it used the norwegian folklore...
15:56 moodaepo Oh I don't think so "blair witch" didn't have lines like "Eg e kristen!!!"
15:56 * magnuse didn't actually see blair witch, just the trailer ;-)
15:57 magnuse but yeah, great line!
15:59 * oleonard has been reading his son this lately http://search.myacpl.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=239168
16:00 * jcamins remembers reading that book.
16:01 magnuse trailer for the trollhunter: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLEo7H9tqSM ;-)
16:01 sekjal thanks, oleonard, for testing 7278, and thanks jcamins and kf for helping in the discussion
16:02 oleonard Looks to be a very useful addition
16:02 magnuse yup
16:03 sekjal a library I was training showed me a Harry Potter special edition DVD, with 3 discs, two booklets, a couple collectable cards, and a holographic... thingy
16:03 sekjal as their example of "this has lots of bits what need checking"
16:04 oleonard Even with the new feature that's a lot to scan when you're reading the materials specified note
16:07 chris_n here we go from 3.3. to 3.6 in one fell swoop
16:08 * chris_n clicks update and hides under his desk
16:08 maximep probably what i'm going to do when updating from 3.2 to 3.6
16:08 maximep hide
16:08 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6273] SIP2 Fee Paid and Fee Paid Response support <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6273>
16:08 chris_n wow! only seven errors
16:09 chris_n of which five are invalid date values and one a duplicate primary key
16:09 jcamins I'm getting a lot of errors from nullmailer. I think I need to make the packages not install nullmailer.
16:09 chris_n not bad over all
16:13 magnuse yay!
16:17 kf chris_n++ :)
16:24 chris_n yeah, I did a test run to do some sign-offs
16:25 * chris_n feels better about his plans to upgrade at the end of Dec now
16:25 kf :)
16:25 kf we are planning for january...
16:25 kf still some patches have to go in
16:25 kf hoping all we need is in 3.6.2 :)
16:25 * jcamins aims to upgrade this weekend.
16:25 kf do you plan to release on 22nd of december? or will there be some holiday change of plans?
16:26 kf jcamins: patron toolbar will be a bit broken
16:26 kf only display, still works
16:26 * magnuse aims to do test upgrades this weekend
16:26 jcamins kf: I have a tested package all ready for the upgrade- it just hasn't made it into production.
16:27 magnuse and maybe upgrade the gratis customers for reals too
16:27 kf :)
16:27 * oleonard postponed his planned upgrade for this week because of that toolbar problem
16:27 kf I gave axel a tour earlier
16:27 kf showing him all the new and shiny thigns we get
16:27 kf he especially liked the new fast add workflow and being able to pay partial fines :)
16:28 magnuse yay
16:28 kf we are training a new library on monday - exciting
16:29 magnuse 2x yay
16:29 magnuse "The following files are 8bit, but do not declare a Content-Transfer-Encoding." what to do?
16:29 kf when did it happen?
16:30 magnuse trying to git send-email
16:30 jcamins koha git?
16:30 jcamins revision control using git?
16:30 jcamins koha revision control using git?
16:30 jcamins git wiki?
16:30 jcamins wiki git?
16:30 magnuse lol
16:30 * jcamins gives up.
16:31 magnuse http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Version_Control_Using_Git#Share_with_the_rest_of_the_world
16:31 jcamins magnuse: there's a setting you can set in git so that it will not give you that error.
16:31 kf git tutorial?
16:31 magnuse i did this: git config --global format.headers "Content-Type: text/plain; charset=\"utf-8\""
16:31 magnuse anything else?
16:31 wahanui anything else is just piling mess on top
16:31 kf git tutorial is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Version_Control_Using_Git#Share_with_the_rest_of_the_world
16:31 jcamins That's the one.
16:31 jcamins And it didn't fix it?
16:32 magnuse um, maybe i should do git format-patch again
16:32 magnuse nope, same thing
16:34 * jcamins is out of ideas.
16:35 magnuse i'll send it and see what happens
16:35 jcamins Bold! Daring!
16:36 magnuse it's friday - i'm a little crazy...
16:36 jcamins Pizza tonight?
16:36 magnuse yeah, from the freezer
16:36 magnuse my wife is still in london, so making light work of food...
16:37 jcamins Long trip.
16:37 magnuse yeah, friday to next sunday, for the online information conference and visting a friend
16:39 jcamins bug 7311
16:39 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7311 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED , Error when records have UNIMARC 461$0 or 773$0 for something other than bibnumber
16:42 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7309] Add NORMARCslim2intranetDetail.xsl for detail view in intranet <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7309>
16:43 magnuse "the proportion of noms"? https://twitter.com/#!/Hadro/statuses/142642120497430529
16:43 oleonard Nominations for Best Small Library award I think
16:43 magnuse ah
16:44 jenkins_koha Starting build 545 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #491 1 mo. 14 j ago)
16:44 magnuse i spend too much time on i can haz cheeseburger,,,
16:45 rhcl cheeseburgers++
16:45 chris_n oleonard: it appears that we are hacking up datatables pretty extensively or am I over-complicating it?
16:46 chris_n cheeseburgers++
16:46 oleonard What do you mean by hacking up?
16:46 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6015, new script for load testing <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=df80c6358c7f4ec98c1ac90ad4c333e01bb3e9d5>
16:46 kf oh
16:46 kf i missed cheeseburgers?
16:47 chris_n changing pagination and sort functionality
16:47 oleonard Just within established options
16:47 clrh I leave, goodbye
16:47 kf bye claire
16:47 kf and... too late
16:48 oleonard My goal with my patch was to get a default configuration working that was as close as possible to the tablesorter look with additional options added
16:49 chris_n oleonard: what parts are yours vs biblibre's?
16:50 magnuse benchmarking++
16:50 jcamins benchmarking++
16:50 oleonard chris_n: The "follow-up CSS work" is my patch with some corrections from Julian
16:50 magnuse @karma benchmarking
16:50 huginn` magnuse: Karma for "benchmarking" has been increased 2 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 2.
16:50 magnuse heh
16:50 kf benchmarking++
16:50 sekjal benchmarking++
16:51 * chris_n would just like to know the logic behind the method of implementation
16:51 chris_n but I suppose that should be directed at biblibre
16:51 oleonard On the script side?
16:51 chris_n no, the entire thing
16:52 chris_n my implementation of dt looks nothing like this one, so I'm a bit lost
16:54 kf perhaps write up something for the mailing list?
16:56 * chris_n keeps reading the code hoping for an epiphany :-)
16:57 * oleonard was looking exclusively at the client-side of things
17:21 * jcamins looks at the patch for bug 7286.
17:21 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7286 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, stephane.delaune, NEW , fix rebuild_zebra.pl to add rebuild_zebra_sliced.zsh
17:21 jcamins What exactly is it for?
17:21 jcamins So you can rebuild just a portion of the index?
17:24 maximep to rebuild it by batch, I guess ?
17:24 magnuse +# BIBLIOSTART is the record number to BIBLIOSTART on
17:24 magnuse +# BIBLIOEND is the record number to BIBLIOEND on
17:26 reiveune bye
17:26 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7286] fix rebuild_zebra.pl to add rebuild_zebra_sliced.zsh <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7286>
17:31 jcamins magnuse: maximep: yeah, that's what I thought.
17:31 magnuse wow, adding subtitles to resultlists in the staff client was easy peasy!
17:32 oleonard From a configuration point of view magnuse?
17:32 jcamins magnuse: yeah, MARC-keyword mappings are a good concept.
17:32 * chris_n hates sour apples
17:32 magnuse yeah, just add a "Keyword to MARC Mapping" for "subtitle" -> 245$b
17:32 jcamins chris_n: why are you eating them then?
17:33 magnuse had to look at the code to realize that was the way to do it, though ;-)
17:33 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #545: STILL UNSTABLE in 49 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/545/
17:33 jenkins_koha paul.poulain: Bug 6015, new script for load testing
17:33 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6015 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , Enhancing the performance test suite
17:33 chris_n jcamins: it advertised itself as ripe
17:33 oleonard Not the first lie told about an apple...
17:34 chris_n heh
17:34 jcamins Though, to be fair, I think pomegranates have a worse time of it.
17:35 sekjal kf: when your patrons use self-checkout over SIP2, can they see all the items they currently have overdue?
17:35 kf sec
17:36 oleonard right jcamins, pomegranates are probably the most-lied-about fruit, starting with "You can eat this!"
17:36 sekjal magnuse: I'd like to see the Keywork to MARC mapping system expanded, and renamed to something a little more intuitive
17:36 sekjal it's not really keywords
17:37 sekjal it's defining the content for various placeholders in the display
17:37 sekjal right now, 'subtitle' is the only placeholder
17:37 jcamins sekjal: the problem is it doesn't work with XSLT displays, and the "regular" display is too clunky.
17:37 sekjal but it doesn't have to be subtitle; it just appears in display following the title
17:37 * chris_n has a friend with a pomegranate tree
17:37 sekjal jcamins: right
17:37 sekjal I'd like to see XSLT display removed, personally
17:38 sekjal in favour of a friendly, user-editable-in-the-staff-client templating method
17:38 paul_p about benchmarking = look at the bug 6875 = mainpage.pl => -35% in time to compute the page !!!
17:38 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6875 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , de-nesting C4 packages
17:38 kf sekjal: I love the xslt display
17:38 * paul_p really love this benchmarking thing ;-)
17:38 * paul_p very happy to spend the day on it !
17:38 kf sekjal: as long as you don't come up with something better :)
17:38 paul_p not a lost day ;-)
17:38 kf hi paul_p :)
17:38 magnuse sekjal: yeah it would be super-cool if there was an easy way to change the record display
17:38 kf lots of activity from biblibre an acq today!
17:38 magnuse paul_p++
17:39 kf my to test folder is going to explode ;)
17:39 jcamins sekjal: I have to disagree. Editing the regular display is too painful.
17:39 dpavlin sekjal: I this that for us using 3M self-check they do see overdue items... I'm not in library any more so I can't check right now
17:39 kf sekjal: I have no idea
17:39 kf I would have to call thel ibrary and make them look at a test patron
17:39 sekjal paul_p: I know, right?! benchmarking and performance enhancements really satisfy me
17:39 kf sekjal: about your sip question
17:39 sekjal kf: okay, thanks
17:39 sekjal I'll talk with one of my libraries
17:40 kf ok
17:40 paul_p yijes ... 22 patches passed QA today ... i'm late pushing...
17:40 dpavlin paul_p++
17:40 sekjal paul_p: I try to make your life more difficult whenever i can ;-)
17:40 jcamins sekjal: I still want to see record display made into a plugin system.
17:40 kf sekjal: plz drop me an email if you watn me to test something - I can ask them, but need instructions to build the test case ;)
17:40 paul_p sekjal, did you had a look at the new updatedatabase.pl patch ?
17:40 magnuse plugins++
17:40 sekjal kf: okay. I'm currently working on getting the Fine Items to display over SIP, so patrons can see what they owe
17:41 sekjal paul_p: not yet
17:41 * jcamins would prefer the option for out-of-band rendering, but he recognizes that he may be the only person who cares about that.
17:41 kf out of band rendering?
17:41 * kf would love a way to display the volumes of a set directly in the set record...
17:41 kf links to the volumes/parts to be exact
17:42 sekjal jcamins: I want to see the XSLT display rules turned into a user-editable template (if they have the right permissions)
17:42 kf but have not figured out a way to do it yet... was thinking javascript/ajax. hm.
17:42 jcamins kf: I would like to be able to have a "rendering server" that is told "render this record," and then returns the rendered results.
17:42 sekjal display would be identical
17:42 sekjal but updating it wouldn't require changing a core file
17:42 sekjal dpavlin: thanks
17:42 sekjal dpavlin: checking the SIP code, I see that overdue items and hold items are supposedly populated... just not sure if they're being properly utilized
17:43 sekjal there is space for 'checked out' items, 'recalled' items, 'unavailable holds' and 'fine items', as well
17:43 dpavlin simple plugins please. Not something as eprints has which is overly complicated. How about TT include for simpliest things somehow packed in by-convention dir which would auto-generate sysconfig?
17:43 sekjal that last is what I'm looking to populate
17:44 kf jcamins: I don't think I get it :(
17:44 kf but it's late here - I am going to leave and walk home
17:44 dpavlin sekjal: WRT SIP, we will call and ask somebody to check it :-)
17:44 sekjal thanks, dpavlin! don't want to put you to any trouble
17:45 jcamins sekjal: I think that would be an excellent idea.
17:45 jcamins dpavlin: I was thinking plugins with an API like this: "char *renderRecord(RECORD *recordToRender)"
17:45 jcamins And maybe optional void initialize() and void destroy() functions.
17:45 sekjal jcamins: the ISBD display is pretty cool
17:45 sekjal might be a good basis
17:46 kf sekjal: it has some shortcomings
17:46 * jcamins has minimal memory to devote to APIs, so he always comes up with the simplest options.
17:46 jcamins sekjal: it's very cool, but it doesn't offer the level of flexibility that's called for.
17:46 kf ok, leaving - have a nice weekend all!
17:48 sekjal lunchtime... bbiab
17:48 dpavlin sekjal: from SIP diff on our production and current Koha's master we seem to hove additional encode('utf-8',$msg) in write_msg to get accented chars to work. New bug to write i guess...
17:49 jcamins dpavlin: I think you submitted a bug for that.
17:49 jcamins Something to do with checksums.
17:49 * dpavlin blush
17:50 * jcamins isn't sure.
17:50 * jcamins avoids SIP.
17:50 magnuse the ISBD thinger looks quite daunting though...
17:51 paul_p bye #koha, itme to go with my family !
17:51 jcamins magnuse: oh, it certainly is!
17:51 magnuse have fun paul_p
17:52 magnuse i can imagine something visual with blocks you move around, and toggles - but i can't code it...
17:52 jcamins magnuse: aww.
17:52 magnuse something a la yahoo pipes or something
17:53 oleonard With that and Yahoo! Pony we could each have a pony
17:53 dpavlin magnuse: http://ql.io/ ?
17:54 dpavlin magnuse: + http://code.google.com/p/jsplumb/ ?
17:55 dpavlin I tried to compile ql.io to try with Zebra's MARCXML yesterday, but my node.js-fu didn't feel the force, and npm defeated me.
17:56 magnuse dpavlin: yeah, something like that last one
17:56 * chris_n grumbles about dt.net being unavailable... again
17:58 magnuse chris_n: works for me...
17:58 magnuse deutsche telekom?
17:58 chris_n hehe
17:58 chris_n datatables.net
17:58 wahanui i guess datatables.net is far easier.
17:58 chris_n sorry
17:58 magnuse ah! ;-)
18:01 * jcamins curses the automatic authority matching.
18:08 magnuse dpavlin: thanks for the link to jsplumb - that's awesome!
18:08 magnuse hiya cait
18:09 jcamins cait! Long time, no see.
18:09 cait lol
18:09 cait hi all :)
18:09 cait weeeeekend!
18:09 magnuse kooooohaaaaa!
18:10 cait hehe
18:10 cait exactly
18:10 cait time for fun things
18:10 * chris_n gives up on 6836
18:10 magnuse yay!
18:10 jcamins bug 6836
18:10 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6836 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, julian.maurice, ASSIGNED , jQuery plugin Datatables integration
18:11 cait magnuse: I saw your NORMARC thing - it's on my list
18:14 liquidxd hello
18:14 wahanui hello, liquidxd
18:14 liquidxd i'm new to koha and i have some problems
18:15 liquidxd like this Date::Calc::Add_Delta_Days(): not a valid date at /usr/share/koha/opac/cgi-bin/opac/opac-user.pl line 112.
18:15 liquidxd can you help me?
18:16 jcamins liquidxd: you installed from git?
18:16 liquidxd no from repo
18:16 jcamins liquidxd: uhhh... you mean, you installed from a git repository?
18:16 liquidxd i'm from greece and i use the script from here(http://kohaprojectgr.greeklis.org/node/153)
18:17 liquidxd wrong w8
18:19 liquidxd http://pastebin.com/9xJQDvqB
18:20 jcamins Ah.
18:20 jcamins You should not be using the koha package.
18:20 jcamins You should use koha-common.
18:21 jcamins The error you're getting is because of a bug that was fixed a few days ago.
18:21 liquidxd delete the koha?
18:22 jcamins That's what I would do. And then run sudo apt-get install koha-common, and all the steps after that.
18:22 liquidxd is better to install koha from git because i want local repo for covers?
18:22 jcamins liquidxd: are you going to be doing development?
18:22 liquidxd no at this time
18:23 jcamins Koha doesn't support local cover images, AFAIK.
18:23 * jcamins doesn't really know what to recommend here, because all the steps after the translation are... odd.
18:24 magnuse bug 1633
18:24 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1633 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, kmkale, ASSIGNED , Add ability to take book cover images from local img db
18:24 rangi it does using 856u, but you ahve to upload the covers and set up the server to serve them etc
18:24 liquidxd is there a way to have cover from local repo?
18:24 rangi yourself
18:25 jcamins liquidxd: well, what rangi suggested works, but it's not really an easy task.
18:26 magnuse 1633 will add local covers but is currently failed qa
18:28 rangi bug 6874 too
18:28 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6874 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, julian.maurice, ASSIGNED , File upload in MARC
18:28 rangi problem is, they need to be implemented safely
18:28 * jcamins is going to need that feature too, one day.
18:28 jcamins Soonish.
18:29 liquidxd i try this
18:29 jcamins liquidxd: none of that is currently in Koha. If you want to use it, you'll be pretty much on your own.
18:29 rangi needs to be done in a way that can work with multiple sites (not just multiple koha) on the one machine, securely
18:30 * jcamins doesn't like giving access to the file system.
18:30 rangi exactly
18:30 * jcamins would rather a maximum file size and have it stored in the database.
18:30 magnuse 1633 uses the db
18:30 jcamins If you want to store an uncompressed TIFF, that's your funeral.
18:31 jcamins magnuse: yeah, it looked promising based on the description. Didn't look at the code yet.
18:36 magnuse o/
18:38 cait hi trea and ago43_lunch :)
18:39 trea liquidxd - make sure the patron's expiry date is populated with a sane value
18:39 trea i think we saw this yesterday during training
18:40 trea hi cait :D
18:40 cait lunch - reminds me of dinner
18:43 jcamins Dinner?
18:43 wahanui hmmm... Dinner is a good idea.
18:45 jcamins cait: there you have it.
18:46 jcamins trea: how did training go?
18:46 trea well, we're still here technically, but will be heading back home soon
18:46 trea it went pretty well i think
18:46 trea plenty of quote123 examples
18:47 jcamins Heh. There always are.
18:51 cait hehe
18:52 cait dinner is on its way
18:53 * chris_n perks up at the word dinner
18:55 jcamins What are you having?
18:59 cait spagheeti
18:59 cait with things I found in the fridge
18:59 cait you don't want to know ;)
18:59 cait but part of it was cream cheese and grated cheese and zucchini, so should not be too bad
19:00 jcamins Cream cheese on spaghetti?
19:00 jcamins That would not have occurred to me.
19:01 cait processed cheese?
19:01 cait or soft cheese says my dictonary
19:01 cait still as bad?
19:01 jcamins cait: I think maybe cream cheese means something different in the US.
19:01 jcamins What's the German word?
19:01 wahanui i heard the German word was Inventarnummer
19:01 rangi cottage cheese ?
19:02 cait no not cottage cheese
19:02 cait cottage cheese has small bits, right?
19:02 cait schmelzkäse
19:02 trea right
19:02 rangi http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cream_cheese
19:02 rangi that?
19:02 wahanui that is probably good
19:02 cait no
19:02 jcamins Oh, I think it's what we call "American cheese" in the US.
19:02 cait I had the wrong word at first
19:03 jcamins http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Processed_cheese
19:03 cait hm
19:03 magnuse http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schmelzk%C3%A4se
19:03 cait kind of like that
19:03 cait but
19:03 cait with the consistency of cream cheese?
19:03 jcamins Hm... farmer's cheese?
19:03 cait the thing in the foil on the picture from magnus' link
19:03 jcamins Mmm. Farmer's cheese.
19:04 cait if we talk more about cheese, we really have to use it for koha names
19:04 rangi :)
19:04 magnuse +1
19:04 rangi im ok with names
19:04 cait koha schmelzkäse 3.8
19:04 rangi as long as they are secondary to the the number
19:04 trea hehe
19:04 rangi so koha 3.8.0 schmelzkäse
19:04 jcamins Ah, like la vache qui rit.
19:05 rangi and we have to get in the habit ourselves of using the 3 numbers
19:05 * cait nods
19:05 rangi because we will confuse ppl less
19:05 rangi if we say 3.6 .... which 3.6 ?
19:05 rangi 3.6.x if we talk abut the branch
19:05 rangi 3.6.0 or 3.6.1 if we talk about a release
19:05 rangi will cause less confusion
19:07 cait right :)
19:08 rangi here ends the sermon
19:08 rangi hehe
19:08 magnuse :-)
19:09 rangi but yeah i like trailing names
19:09 rangi the trick is pick a style of cheese for the .0 release
19:09 rangi then version of it for the .1 .2 etc :)
19:10 magnuse ooh tricky
19:10 rangi so if you picked cheddar say
19:10 jcamins Koha 3.6.0 Ricotta.
19:10 rangi then 3.6.1 could be vintage
19:10 rangi 3.6.8 could be epicure
19:10 rangi hehe
19:10 oleonard Ugh, then we have to refer to our cheese chart to remember which release is which?
19:10 jcamins Koha 3.6.1 Ricotta salata.
19:10 rangi heh
19:10 * cait is still favouring sweets
19:10 jcamins Koha 3.6.2 Gjiza.
19:10 cait and cookies!
19:10 wahanui Cookies are delicious delicacies
19:10 jcamins Koha 3.6.3 Ricotta affumicata.
19:11 * jcamins likes cookies better, truth be told.
19:11 * chris_n discovers Git.pm
19:11 rangi oleonard: yeah thats why the number needs to be the prominent bit
19:11 chris_n and life just got better
19:12 rangi well we coulkd do cheese, then sweets, then cookies, then cakes etc each major release could be a different food thingy
19:12 chris_n oleonard: or you could just refer to lunch to remember
19:14 jcamins sekjal: the problem you report on bug 3216 could be fixed with DOM indexing.
19:14 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3216 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, NEW , UNIMARC author facets
19:14 sekjal rangi: so, food as the main theme, then specific kinds of food for maintenance releases?
19:15 sekjal could be fun
19:15 cait mmmh dom indexing ;)
19:15 sekjal jcamins: right
19:15 sekjal even if the patch doesn't solve the issue with UNIMARC authors, as it intends, it still makes me very happy
19:15 sekjal as it enables item types faceting
19:15 cait rangi: people will probably think we are a bit crazy... but it's not that far from the truth
19:16 jcamins cait: you're thinking about library acquisition workflows on your days off. QED
19:17 rangi yeah, to even want to work with ILS .. you have to be crazy
19:17 cait if that's the craziest thing you can come up with about me - I am still good
19:20 magnuse tee hee
19:20 magnuse well, i'm off
19:20 rangi cya magnuse
19:20 sekjal oleonard++ (for bug 6865 patch)
19:20 magnuse see ya tomorrow!
19:20 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6865 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Replace image-based gradient backgrounds with CSS3 gradients
19:20 sekjal night, magnuse!
19:20 rangi ohhh gradients, nice!
19:20 rangi oh hey sekjal
19:21 rangi in our default apache conf
19:21 rangi we dont set any expires times eh?
19:22 jcamins We probably should.
19:22 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6865] Replace image-based gradient backgrounds with CSS3 gradients <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6865>
19:22 sekjal rangi: not that I'm seeing, no
19:23 rangi yeah we should
19:23 * rangi puts it on his list
19:23 * cait tries to peek on rangi's list
19:24 jcamins While you're adding things to your list, you should add testing tcohen's zebraqueue daemon.
19:24 jcamins I'm going to do it, too, but you'd know how to confirm that it's not leaking memory.
19:25 rangi ah yep
19:25 rangi id like to rewrite it
19:25 rangi not using POE
19:26 jcamins Power Over Ethernet?
19:26 * jcamins looks up POE.
19:26 jcamins Ah.
19:26 cait edgar a. poe?
19:26 rangi http://search.cpan.org/~vparseval/Event-Lib-1.03/lib/Event/Lib.pm
19:26 rangi yeah so its currently written using POE
19:27 rangi id like to use libevent
19:27 rangi to have an event driven loop
19:28 jcamins rangi++
19:28 jcamins I don't care how it works, I'd just like to have a zebraqueue daemon that works again.
19:30 jcamins :)
19:30 * oleonard is tempted by this CSS technique http://css-tricks.com/5970-data-uris/
19:31 rangi we could make dpavlin write us one in node.js
19:32 rangi :)
19:33 rangi ohh thats kinda cool oleonard
19:34 fredericd rangi: I have a zebra indexer daemon based on AnyEvent
19:34 oleonard Seems like it might be more efficient for really small stuff rangi
19:36 rangi fredericd: ooooohhhh
19:37 rangi is it worth pushing up somewhere for others to test?
19:37 rangi oleonard: yeah
19:38 rangi fredericd: you might like to get in touch with tchohen, he might like to test it out
19:38 rangi i do think an event driven model makes more sense than a running loop
19:38 rangi no point chewing up cpu cycles at 2am when no one is doing anything :)
19:38 rangi fredericd++
19:39 fredericd http://git.tamil.fr/?p=tkoha;a=blob;f=bin/koha-index-daemon;h=dd6e9c163577f6852f0d2cc3e4e627f18b1430bf;hb=HEAD
19:39 jcamins Agreed.
19:39 rangi cool
19:39 jcamins Still uses POE, though?
19:40 * jcamins doesn't understand what he's looking at, and can't decode it right now.
19:40 fredericd No POE anymore (even if there is still a POE in the code :) )
19:41 fredericd A script calling a generic indexing class which can be used elsewhere:
19:41 fredericd http://git.tamil.fr/?p=tkoha;a=blob;f=lib/Koha/Indexer.pm;h=73648dd304df17ac9b6452c54e9d6e483ba17b58;hb=HEAD
19:42 fredericd And parametrized by a conf file, in order to index multiple Koha instance:
19:42 fredericd http://git.tamil.fr/?p=tkoha;a=blob;f=etc/koha-index-daemon.conf;h=c3f2a5cdb481f92f59a902473dab7ee9ff465914;hb=HEAD
19:43 rangi i like it!
19:44 rangi hi LBA
19:44 cait hi LBA
19:53 cait oleonard: still around?
19:53 oleonard Present.
19:53 cait have you seen bug 7202?
19:54 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7202 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , z39.50 search on bib edit not working
19:54 oleonard I haven't tested it
19:54 cait my coworker did and I can reproduce
19:54 cait it seems to only happen when using the popup menu for importing
19:55 oleonard I was just looking for something to tinker with, so I'll look
19:56 oleonard cait: The problem is only with overlaying records from z39.50 on top of old records?
19:56 cait afaict yes
19:56 cait I did test the bug in the morning - and couldn#t reproduce the problem
19:57 cait because I always used the import links at the end of the table
19:57 cait and then in the afternoon my coworker complained about the duplicates he created and we found out
20:05 cait hi JesseM
20:05 JesseM Hello cait
20:05 JesseM Hello #koha
20:09 rangi hi JesseM
20:10 cait oleonard: looking at it now (7202) only wondered if you had an idea or even looked at it
20:11 * oleonard thinks he sees the problem
20:18 cait can I help?
20:20 oleonard Patch sent, so you can test :)
20:20 cait wohoo fast!
20:20 cait thank you!
20:20 oleonard Really simple fix, assuming it's the right one.
20:21 cait testing :)
20:23 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7202] z39.50 search on bib edit not working <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7202>
20:23 oleonard slef++ # for blog post troll fighting
20:23 jcamins oleonard: ?
20:24 oleonard http://diligentroom.wordpress.com/2011/11/22/the-exemplar-of-stupid-koha-vs-liblime-trademark/#comment-1817
20:24 cait oleonard++
20:28 * jcamins had never heard that use of "chugging" before, but he sure like sit.
20:28 jcamins s/like sit/likes it/
20:28 jcamins I think I'm tired.
20:29 cait oleonard: looks good!
20:29 oleonard Great
20:30 rangi owen i did a follow up of 7164
20:30 rangi that should fix the formatting issue
20:32 oleonard Thanks rangi, I'll re-test
20:32 * oleonard started to say, "if I have time," then saw what a long time was left on the clock...
20:32 rangi heh
20:33 oleonard So mr2's loss is our gain this morning rangi?
20:33 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7164] add Koha history timeline tab to 'About' page <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7164>
20:33 rangi well ill have to play with him soon
20:34 rangi trolls be trolling
20:34 oleonard Do NZ kids not do a chicken pox vaccine?
20:35 rangi not usually no
20:35 rangi they do all the rest
20:36 * oleonard is sorry to say that git blames him for 7202, which must have been an issue for a while
20:36 cait oleonard: and you also fixed it :) which is great
20:45 cait 7202 signed off
20:46 * oleonard just trashed a comment on his blog from a spammer calling himself "Vito Boomershine."
20:46 rangi lol
20:47 oleonard "My spouse and I absolutely love your blog and find a lot of your post's to be what precisely I'm looking for."
20:47 cait nice ;)
20:48 * oleonard is picturing Vito and Mrs. Boomershine snuggled up on the bed with the laptop between them, eagerly reading about Koha
20:51 rangi hehe
20:56 cait lol
21:02 * chris_n gets auto-revert code working in his auto-cherry-pick script
21:02 chris_n yay!
21:03 chris_n now we can auto cherry-pick and when the script terminates it hands out a list of commits which would not apply cleanly
21:03 rangi w00t
21:03 rangi nice
21:03 chris_n maybe I'll be able to run it as a git hook
21:03 chris_n and have it email me a list of commits which did not apply
21:04 chris_n for review
21:04 chris_n then I can sip lemonade and be RMaint at the same time ;-)
21:04 chris_n ok, time to find dinner
21:04 oleonard Whereas before it was harder stuff you sipped
21:06 rangi chris_n: also others can use this
21:06 rangi if someone wants to roll a testing type release, 3.6.x plus some pushed patches
21:06 cait I don#t get it all... but chris_n++ :)
21:07 jcamins chris_n++
21:08 jcamins What does the auto-cherry pick script do, exactly?
21:09 oleonard Takes American jobs I'll bet
21:09 jcamins (I get that it automatically cherry picks stuff, but I'm not clear on how one can automatically cherry pick stuff from master into stable)
21:11 rangi you give it a list of bugs
21:12 jcamins Ah.
21:12 jcamins Nifty!
21:33 oleonard have a good weekend #koha, I'm off
21:33 wizzyrea byee!
21:34 cait wizzyrea: you beat him ;)
21:42 chris_n jcamins: it does a git-cherry comparing <branch> to master, compiles a list of commits which are in master but not in branch, extracts bug numbers from the commit messages, examines bugzilla to see what sort of bug they are (ie. enh, etc), and applies all commits which are not enh bug types
21:42 chris_n along the way, it culls commits which do not apply cleanly
21:42 chris_n and notifies me of them
21:42 jcamins chris_n: wow! That's quite a lot.
21:43 rangi yeah its very cool
21:43 chris_n as soon as it is smart enought, I'll turn it loose on its own
21:43 chris_n as a git hook or some such
21:44 cait sekjal: around?
21:45 sekjal cait: for a few more minutes, yes
21:45 cait ah
21:45 cait was looking at your comment mentioning icu
21:45 cait I think you can do that with icu, butnot totally suere
21:46 cait we have one library using icu
21:47 sekjal cait: looking at the file, there is a command about whitespace and punctuation being removed
21:53 sekjal going to call it a day now
21:53 sekjal have a good weekend, #koha!
21:58 cait hm
21:58 cait getting late - bye all :)
22:10 wizzyrea bug 6976
22:10 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6976 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, REOPENED , User hold limit can be avoided by users in OPAC
22:10 wizzyrea I thought we were deprecating maxreserves in favor of the circ matrix
22:11 jcamins wizzyrea: we are.
22:11 jcamins So why is it still there, you ask?
22:11 * jcamins doesn't have an answer.
22:11 jcamins I think possibly because the circ matrix isn't available to the Javascript.
22:11 wizzyrea hmm
22:12 wizzyrea but it certainly is when it's actually placing holds
22:12 wizzyrea this patch actually works like that
22:12 wizzyrea it will display 10 items, but only place 5
22:12 jcamins Indeed it is.
22:12 wizzyrea i.e. you can say "place hold" and see 10x titles
22:13 wizzyrea but you will only get the first 5
22:13 wizzyrea now, a shortcoming
22:13 wizzyrea is that it doesn't say "sorry, you can't place any more holds"
22:13 jcamins I think that maxreserves should just be removed altogether.
22:13 wizzyrea an additional shortcoming
22:13 jcamins It's been "deprecated" for three years.
22:14 jcamins But if you don't have it set, it causes problems.
22:15 wizzyrea I can see utility for both
22:15 wizzyrea say you want to only allow holds on 5 cd's
22:15 wizzyrea but you also want to allow patrons to have up to 50 holds
22:15 jcamins So can I, but if maxreserves is going to be used, it shouldn't say everywhere "this has no effect and is ignored."
22:15 wizzyrea (but only 5 of them can be CD's)
22:15 jcamins I think maxreserves is very useful.
22:15 jcamins But it was deprecated three years ago.
22:16 wizzyrea i'm not arguing with you ^.^
22:16 jcamins I know.
22:16 jcamins Just observing.
22:16 wizzyrea I mostly agree :)
22:17 wizzyrea but i'm not sure what to do
22:17 wizzyrea with that patch
22:17 wizzyrea fail it?
22:17 wizzyrea it's a working, if flawed, solution
22:19 * jcamins shrugs. That's a decision for someone who works with libraries that circulate things. :P
22:19 jcamins Like you!
22:19 wizzyrea >.<