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23:59 wizzyrea yea that one's more cute
23:59 * jcamins finds the hamster ball funnier.
23:58 wizzyrea http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qs3HBZC-AY8&feature=related this one requires a new metric
23:58 * jcamins watches the kitten on the slide.
23:57 chris_n hehe
23:56 wizzyrea that is pretty funny
23:56 jcamins Maybe five.
23:55 jcamins chris_n: and this is about four gigglebytes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=go43XeW6Wg4
23:55 * wizzyrea notes that babies do that too
23:55 jcamins chris_n: see, this is one gigglebyte: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiz80CuDN8Y
23:55 wizzyrea spud is in love with my "tabble ett"
23:54 * chris_n figured wizzyrea would get a kick out of that
23:54 wizzyrea haha your kid is awesome.
23:54 jcamins chris_n: gigglebytes are a measure of funny cat videos.
23:53 * chris_n 's 5 year old daughter just asked about "gigglebytes" :-)
23:45 rangi back
23:28 wizzyrea very small and cheap.
23:27 wizzyrea hm there's probably money to be made in very-small-devices-specifically for wireless location within buildings
23:20 * jcamins makes an impassioned plea for requiring everyone to understand 2NF.
23:16 eythian heh
23:16 jcamins - Why MARC must die
23:16 jcamins * Stream-oriented formats
23:16 jcamins You'd like my subheading, then.
23:16 eythian Also in the sense of "would throw it into a river if I could"
23:15 eythian I would, but I'm like that.
23:15 * jcamins would, but he's not sure that the heading "stream-oriented format" would make sense to anyone else.
23:15 jcamins Would you call MARC a stream-oriented format?
23:12 eythian I suppose if you had a lot of wireless access points, it could work
23:12 eythian wouldn't be nearly accurate enough inside a smaller building
23:09 rhcl suppose it could tie into an opac and help patrons find books in the stacks?
23:09 rhcl http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/2011/11/google-maps-the-indoors-finding-nearest-bathroom-has-never-been-easier.ars
22:42 eythian I suppose it could be that too
22:42 jcamins eythian: I did.
22:41 wizzyrea isn't that the Dexter (from Dexter's Lab) look?
22:41 eythian wizzyrea: this look? à² _à²
22:40 eythian then no :)
22:40 melia yep. and I just did it again! :)
22:40 wizzyrea look out eythian, she's going to get out "the look"
22:40 eythian that depends, did you laugh out loud?
22:40 melia eythian: are you calling me a liar?
22:40 eythian I hope you both actually laughed out loud then, otherwise it's a lie!
22:39 melia LOL
22:39 jcamins rhcl: lol
22:38 rhcl probably chicken skin curry. Stuff is heck to chew.
22:38 melia I always change that and then forget to go eat!
22:38 rhcl melia must have had a long lunch.
22:37 wizzyrea :P
22:37 wizzyrea but yes, I would only eat right handed.
22:37 jcamins :)
22:37 jcamins wizzyrea++ # for ensuring that someone is laughing in #koha
22:35 wizzyrea oh I made myself laugh
22:35 * wizzyrea laughs at her terribly awfully awful joke
22:35 jcamins wizzyrea: sorry to bring up bad memories.
22:35 wizzyrea you should be familiar with that
22:35 wizzyrea naw, I type this fast with one hand
22:35 * jcamins realizes that he's never actually seen a picture of it.
22:34 eythian I don't know, though it seems plausible.
22:34 jcamins eythian: yeah, but wizzyrea has one too, doesn't she?
22:34 eythian mm chicken skin.
22:34 eythian jcamins: I only have one right hand.
22:34 rhcl Similar thing in Vietnam. Just pointed at something chicken. Nothing but chicken skin. Chicken Skin.
22:33 jcamins wizzyrea: eythian: hopefully you used your right hands.
22:33 rhcl I couldn't read the menu, just pointed to something I vaguely realize was dead sheep. It was nothing but bones. Tasty, but bones.
22:32 rhcl I remember eating something in Thailand at an Indian Restaurant. There are about 700 million Indians living there, and the restaurants are just about 100% India authentic.
22:32 wizzyrea well more like a spoon really
22:32 wizzyrea naan = edible fork
22:32 wizzyrea ^^ that was my understanding
22:31 eythian actually, where we were in India, the bread was used to make it easier to eat the rest of the stuff with your hands.
22:31 rhcl Both of you seem highly qualified to be technical writers.
22:30 jcamins There are, of course, those who do not.
22:30 wizzyrea with curry!
22:30 jcamins rhcl: I recommend chewing first.
22:30 eythian open mouth. insert naan
22:30 rhcl I have never known quite how you are supposed to eat naan.
22:29 wizzyrea still!
22:29 wizzyrea ooooo
22:28 eythian well, you get a regular naan by default. The 1.00 is for the upgrade.
22:28 wizzyrea I can get behind that
22:27 wizzyrea garlic naan for 1.00
22:27 wizzyrea i rather like it
22:27 eythian wizzyrea: it's functional :)
22:27 eythian I'll let you know when fedex/customs finally release my new phone that has been sitting in wellington for the past few days.
22:27 rhcl I'll starve at 50 minutes.
22:27 wizzyrea that is the most spartan website I've ever seen
22:26 rhcl No, I want it delivered in <30 minutes.
22:26 eythian cos it'll be ready in about an hour :)
22:26 wizzyrea kekeke
22:26 eythian You going to come pick it up?
22:25 rhcl A double order of Beef Vindaloo please.
22:20 * wizzyrea loves curry
22:20 eythian Not Safe For People-Who-Don't-Like-Curry
22:19 chrisdothall hehe
22:19 * wizzyrea is afraid to click on that link
22:19 eythian mm hotteenvindaloos.com. It's what's for lunch.
22:08 aarkerio eythian, thanks!
22:06 eythian aarkerio: just fyi, your "Manuals" link is 404
22:05 eythian what's your xpath?
22:05 nengard and I see 856$3, $z, $u, $y
22:04 wizzyrea cool ty
22:04 nengard so i want to see 856$3 for example
22:04 nengard jcamins it gives me the entire field
22:04 wizzyrea ooh spicy :)
22:04 aarkerio sorry: http://mononeurona.org/entries/view/aarkerio/18247
22:04 jcamins nengard: it gives you an entire DOM tree?
22:04 eythian maybe you need to specify xpath that limits to the first one.
22:03 nengard I have it ask for one subfield but it always seems to give me all of them
22:03 nengard anyone noticing that the exctactvalue sql function seems to be working different lately?
22:03 eythian tasty login-requiring link
22:00 wizzyrea hmm even.
22:00 wizzyrea mm that link requires a login
21:57 aarkerio http://mononeurona.org/admin/entries/edit/18247
21:57 aarkerio this is my info:
21:55 aarkerio greeeaaatt! thanks a lot!
21:53 wizzyrea and I see this meets the requirements so I'll add it right now
21:53 wizzyrea not necessary :)
21:53 aarkerio should I translate and add the page in english?
21:53 aarkerio http://www.chipotle-software.com/entries/view/kohasupport
21:53 aarkerio I don't know if that happened because I have only an spanish page:
21:52 wizzyrea you have a link to the message?
21:52 wizzyrea sorry about that
21:52 wizzyrea hm, possibly I missed it, that happens sometimes
21:51 aarkerio hi! two weeks a go I sent an email to Kohal mailing list in order to be added in http://koha-community.org/support/paid-support/
21:41 wizzyrea though they're yummy without too
21:41 wizzyrea i mean, they've got marshmallows.
21:40 * jcamins knows what he'll be doing the next time he has a half hour free.
21:40 jcamins Uh-oh.
21:39 wizzyrea http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/smittenkitchen/~3/w5-NEyfo3IQ/ jcamins, this seems relevant to your interests
21:39 maximep haven't seen the sun here since 2 weeks
21:38 wizzyrea only a very few clouds today
21:38 wizzyrea most days are partly to mostly sunny, it's really pretty rare to get a totally clear day
21:38 wizzyrea clear days in kansas are the best days.
21:37 maximep alias rain
21:37 wizzyrea <.<
21:37 wizzyrea >.>
21:37 maximep better than 100% humidity
21:37 wizzyrea hm, not awful
21:37 huginn wizzyrea: The current temperature in Lawrence Live-Courtesy of the Khoury's, Lawrence, Kansas is 8.0ï¿½C (3:34 PM CST on November 29, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 35%. Dew Point: -7.0ï¿½C. Windchill: 8.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 30.25 in 1024.3 hPa (Rising).
21:37 wizzyrea @wunder 66049
21:36 maximep good enough, i guess
21:36 huginn maximep: The current temperature in lac st-charles, quebec city, Quebec is 2.7ï¿½C (4:34 PM EST on November 29, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 3.0ï¿½C. Windchill: 3.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1016.5 hPa (Steady).
21:36 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn.
21:36 huginn jcamins: The current temperature in Lac Benoit, Quebec is -6.0ï¿½C (1:00 PM EST on November 29, 2011). Conditions: . Humidity: 97%. Dew Point: -6.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Rising).
21:36 maximep @wunder g2g1t7
21:36 jcamins @wunder g2j0b4
21:36 huginn jcamins: Error: No such location could be found.
21:36 jcamins @wunder g29j0b4
21:36 maximep that has exactly the same stats as QuÃ©bec
21:35 jcamins maximep: oh, it wasn't supposed to be Lac Benoit?
21:35 maximep it seems to picks a random city in Quebec for me :S
21:34 jcamins Wow! I didn't know it would do that.
21:34 huginn jcamins: The current temperature in Edinburgh, United Kingdom is 5.7ï¿½C (9:32 PM GMT on November 29, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: 3.0ï¿½C. Windchill: 3.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 29.31 in 992.4 hPa (Steady).
21:34 jcamins @wunder eh1 2ny
21:33 maximep so broken -_-
21:33 huginn maximep: The current temperature in Lac Benoit, Quebec is -6.0ï¿½C (1:00 PM EST on November 29, 2011). Conditions: . Humidity: 97%. Dew Point: -6.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Rising).
21:33 maximep @wunder g2j0b4
21:17 cait night
21:11 huginn collum: The current temperature in Erlanger, Kentucky is 3.8ï¿½C (4:09 PM EST on November 29, 2011). Conditions: Light Drizzle. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 2.0ï¿½C. Windchill: 1.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 29.70 in 1005.6 hPa (Steady).
21:11 collum @wunder 41017
21:02 cait wooohoo :)
21:02 jcamins_away And printed.
21:02 jcamins_away Done.
21:02 cait done?
21:01 jcamins_away Woohoo!
21:01 wizzyrea amusingly trollish.
21:00 wizzyrea in a trollish kind of way.
21:00 wizzyrea ibeardslee: that is pretty awesome.
20:47 ibeardslee I used to tell people I'd email their updated login password. A number of them said thanks .. and then called back.
20:46 schuster Finally someone else understands my pain!!
20:42 ibeardslee heh
20:42 jcamins_away Wow.
20:39 wizzyrea oh my
20:39 oleonard Just had someone ask me to reset their password... they thought that when I did so their browser's password auto-save would be updated with the new password :|
20:20 rangi Bbl
20:19 rangi K better go
20:17 cait ta :)
20:16 chrisdothall cait: http://www.tki.org.nz/r/maori/support/support_tereo_1_e.php
20:16 cait what does it mean?
20:16 cait hi chrisdothall :)
20:11 rangi :)
20:10 chrisdothall fail quoting.
20:10 chrisdothall Ka kite ano!"
20:10 wahanui '' are not there, sorry
20:10 jcamins ''?
20:10 chrisdothall hehe a canadian just said to me "
20:10 wizzyrea aww
20:10 rangi Hehe
20:10 rangi so annoying his mum
20:10 wizzyrea *nod*
20:10 rangi but can't go to school
20:10 cait :)
20:10 rangi remarkably well
20:08 wizzyrea how's wee ata?
20:08 rangi Hehe
20:07 wizzyrea what's happenin.
20:07 wizzyrea that's much better :)
20:06 chrisdothall heh
20:06 * lizzy glares at wizzyrea
20:06 * lizzy has a nickname problem
20:06 rangi hi lizzy
20:06 lizzy hi :)
20:06 cait hi lizzy? :)
20:05 rangi 2nd training session
20:05 rangi shouldn't take the full day though I think
20:04 rangi yup reserve bank
20:04 chrisdothall rangi: are you training today?
20:04 rangi cya magnus_away
20:01 magnus_afk g'nigt!
20:01 * magnus_afk read that as "appaling checkbox"
19:40 jcamins (I think that might be what they're called)
19:38 jcamins Wu-zhu?
19:38 jcamins Ah! The old Chinese coin with square holes!
19:37 cait coin is the only idea I had too :(
19:35 jcamins I was thinking an outline drawing of a coin, but I couldn't find any CC-licensed.
19:35 jcamins So... any thoughts for an appealing checkbox?
19:34 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 12.0ï¿½C (8:00 AM NZDT on November 30, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 5.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 30.51 in 1033 hPa (Steady).
19:34 rangi @wunder wellington nz
19:34 huginn jcamins: The current temperature in Middle Village, Queens, New York is 17.9ï¿½C (2:31 PM EST on November 29, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 15.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009.0 hPa (Steady).
19:34 jcamins @wunder 11375
19:34 jcamins That's pretty chilly.
19:33 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 1.3ï¿½C (8:29 PM CET on November 29, 2011). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: 1.0ï¿½C. Windchill: 1.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 30.26 in 1024.6 hPa (Steady).
19:33 cait @wunder Konstanz
19:33 cait ah!
19:29 Oak good night
19:29 Oak me go now
19:28 jcamins I would like the checkboxes to be something nice and collectible-related.
19:28 jcamins It includes a checklist.
19:28 Oak okay good
19:28 jcamins I'm preparing a handout.
19:28 jcamins Oh.
19:28 cait no idea what you were saying
19:28 cait Oak: was cake or dinner, opted for dinner :)
19:27 jcamins Yes?
19:27 wahanui well, jcamins is supposed to be an outstanding cook. or well-traveled and brilliant. or trying to think of a solution, but short of a set of three sysprefs (ShelfBrowserUsesLocation, ShelfBrowserUsesCcode, and ShelfBrowserUsesHomeBranch), I don't really have any ideas. or awesome fixing broken email notifications or the wizard that forges queries in the deep fires of zebra
19:27 cait jcamins?
19:27 Oak cait, you got no cookies?
19:24 jcamins I need a nice collectible-related checkbox.
19:24 slef webmink is tons wide of the mark. "Koha and Why We Need Foundations"
19:24 Oak slef++
19:24 cait slef++
19:24 slef http://wmk.me/rZ8GjW is webmink's article, http://bit.ly/tB0czF is glynmoody's
19:23 cait after blood donation
19:23 cait but got vegetable lasagne and potato salad :)
19:23 cait I got no coookies
19:23 Oak hence the cookies
19:23 cait that makes sense :)
19:23 cait aah
19:22 Oak hehe
19:22 jcamins Oak was missing you, so I said you were donating blood, which was more important than being on #koha. :)
19:22 cait how do you know?
19:21 cait um yes?
19:21 Oak you donated blood cait ?
19:19 Oak i may have suggested it... :)
19:19 cait and hi mr oak :)
19:19 cait everyone giving me cookies today!
19:19 cait oooh
19:19 * Oak gives cait cookies with milk
19:19 Oak hello miss cait :)
19:17 cait heh
19:17 rangi they are blasting out prince tui teka
19:17 rangi this cafe rules!
19:15 rangi brb changing to the free wifi
19:15 rangi ok time for bacon even!
19:10 rangi or training I should say
19:10 cait :)
19:10 rangi time for coffee before meeting
19:09 rangi brb bus stop
19:09 rangi meeting them tonight
19:08 cait ask for their favourite cookie flavor? ;)
19:08 rangi what should I tell the students apply for the academy abot koha
19:08 rangi hmm
19:04 cait jcamins++ for talking with me about sweets while he has to prepare a handout! :)
19:04 cait oh
19:03 jcamins cait++ # for making me laugh while I'm stressing about my handout for the presentation tomorrow.
19:02 cait thx :)
19:02 slef cait: yeah
19:02 cait slef: can you share the link once you found it? :)
19:01 slef I've both them on identi.ca. Will grab in a mo.
18:58 rangi I think glynn moody did one too
18:57 rangi could be a lot worse
18:57 slef usually ok on software, bad on org
18:57 rangi yep
18:57 rangi yeah not too bad
18:57 slef IIRC he's webmink?
18:57 rangi dont have url on me
18:57 slef rangi: Not seen it yet. Any good?
18:57 slef rangi: :-/
18:56 rangi slef: simon Phipps did a koha article in computerworld uk
18:56 jcamins slef: I figured that's what you were going for.
18:56 slef jcamins: ta
18:56 slef damn wahanui
18:56 wahanui well, sql report library is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/SQL_Reports_Library
18:56 jcamins sql report library?
18:56 wahanui i think wiki is http://wiki.koha-community.org
18:56 slef wiki?
18:56 rangi ?
18:56 slef SQL reports?
18:56 slef reports?
18:51 rangi you too
18:51 schuster well good luck with your training! Have a great day!
18:51 rangi yeah
18:50 schuster Yep... I always felt so bad you can't comfort them enough when they are feeling sick.
18:50 rangi ahhh
18:50 rangi be nice to get it sorted tho, and get some sleep :)
18:50 schuster Thankfully both my boys have grown out of their allergy stages, we did have to do tubes in both ears. Then he had trigger thumbs so we had to have that operated on...
18:49 rangi so we are lucky
18:49 rangi yeah he's a happy little chappy still
18:49 schuster Oh sorry that is so hard...
18:49 rangi he still needs one more op on his stomach for reflux
18:49 schuster Allergy problems?
18:48 schuster Oh my... Personally never had them and neither did my grandpa... he lived to 94..
18:48 rangi but that was tonsils and adenoids
18:48 rangi ah he has chicken pox now!
18:48 schuster whew...
18:48 rangi doing some koha training with them
18:48 schuster Don't rob the bank we need you...
18:48 schuster All well with your family? I saw the note about little one staying overnight, didn't know the backstory so hope all is well.
18:47 rangi im just on the bus to the reserve bank (like u federal reserve)
18:47 schuster I'm just getting ready to have lunch.
18:46 schuster Hey rangi great to see you...
18:46 rangi morning
18:42 jcamins Woohoo!
18:42 schuster Thanks for the advice... We've had weird stuff here lately. Monday before Thanksgiving the spiders hit, then today Zebra went wonky for 10 minutes ... It is time to upgrade! New hardware and softwre!
18:42 jcamins Right.
18:40 schuster ok so recap stop the cron job - then using the appropriate user - migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -r walk away... In the morning then reactivate the cron for update...
18:38 libsysguy cait++
18:38 libsysguy kk
18:38 cait you might want to ask someone from bywater
18:37 cait not that I know of
18:37 libsysguy well i can test...is there a patch
18:37 libsysguy haha
18:36 jcamins You have been warned.
18:36 cait libsysguy: she asked me to look at it - ubt I can't test, should be someone who can test it
18:36 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7272 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Fix for Bug 6328 causes user accounts to be frozen
18:36 libsysguy bug 7272
18:36 cait libsysguy: if you want to fix it - talk to druthb
18:36 jcamins NEVER NEVER NEVER.
18:36 jcamins schuster: *never* use -w
18:36 cait libsysguy: 7272
18:36 libsysguy i've been looking at that all day...I thoguht it was an issue with the hourl ymerge
18:36 jcamins Or -w?
18:36 hdl no.
18:35 jcamins hdl: and you weren't using -x?
18:35 hdl So... being quite conservative.
18:35 cait grrrr
18:35 cait yes
18:35 libsysguy grrr
18:35 cait want me to find it for you?
18:35 hdl jcamins: the last time i used -b and -a together, i had big surprise.
18:35 cait it's the fine in days breaking it
18:35 libsysguy ahh
18:35 cait yep since yesterday
18:35 libsysguy oh is there
18:35 wahanui sip is enough to make me drink stronger things than wizzyrea's usual beer. Like whiskey.
18:35 cait sip?
18:35 cait there is a bug for that
18:35 libsysguy it looks like all patrons are set that way unless they are actually debarred
18:34 libsysguy random question: I am getting an account frozen message...I managed to track down that it is being caused by the patron having the debar flag set to 0000-00-00
18:31 jcamins hdl: you're thinking of -a and -x.
18:31 jcamins Up until I switched to XML indexing, I always did -b and -a together.
18:31 jcamins schuster: you have a pretty big catalog, so I would encourage you to disable the cron job.
18:31 jcamins schuster: you need -b -a -r
18:31 jcamins schuster: that won't reindex.
18:31 cait I didn't have any problems afaik, but not totally sure
18:31 jcamins -a and -b work together.
18:30 hdl Since i think it doesnot work.
18:30 hdl schuster: I wouldnot play -b -a together.
18:29 hdl schuster: yea...
18:29 schuster I discovered some logs that needed rotation REALLY bad too.
18:28 schuster something odd happened today and some records didn't get indexed by Zebra - so I want to "reindex" the whole thing at the end of today. Can I just run migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -z without stopping or starting anything in particular?
18:25 jcamins Yay!
18:25 cait I have bought fudge ingredients :)
18:24 cait yay!
18:24 * jcamins gives cait cookies.
18:24 cait hi #koha
17:17 indradg jwagner, lol... very true
17:16 jwagner You never know when you'll need a nice emphatic baseball bat....
17:15 jcamins jwagner: probably wise.
17:15 jwagner jcamins, I personally keep two bats in my office. One is foam, but the other one isn't....
17:14 jcamins You know what they say: "life is better when you have a big foam cluebat."
17:14 jcamins indradg: doesn't everyone need a cluebat?
17:11 huginn indradg: The current temperature in Kolkata, India is 19.0ï¿½C (10:20 PM IST on November 29, 2011). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 16.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Rising).
17:11 indradg @wunder kolkata
17:11 indradg cluebat*
17:10 indradg whats with the BOFH on #koha... who needs a cluesbat?
17:06 jcamins Bwahahahaha!
17:06 * collum is going to purchase the BOFH Omnibus. Book 2. for his kindle tonight.
17:04 jcamins Well, that would be running better than Koha does, I think.
17:04 gmcharlt not my personally preferred distro, but there are enough libraries who use (and mandate) RHEL to keep the Evergreen port alive
17:04 gmcharlt jcamins: well, it runs on Red Hat
17:01 jcamins gmcharlt: Red Hat? I guess Evergreen runs on Red Hat better than Koha?
17:00 magnuse bbl
16:58 jcamins magnuse: !
16:58 * magnuse had to google BOFH
16:38 Oak :-D this is very good jcamins -> "Matrix Revisited" link....
16:35 magnuse lol
16:34 jcamins :)
16:34 magnuse ok, better leave it alone then, perhaps
16:33 gmcharlt magnuse: what you're about to tell jcamins is purely imaginary ;)
16:33 jcamins http://xkcd.com/566/
16:33 Oak when cait returns we should all give her cookies.
16:33 magnuse s/new/news/
16:33 * magnuse has some new for jcamins
16:31 jcamins A pity they only ever made three Star Wars movies.
16:31 Oak hehe
16:31 jcamins He fell into a volcano!
16:31 jcamins Oak: that's what Anakin said, and look what happened to him!
16:31 magnuse yay!
16:30 Oak magnuse, no worries, i'll pull the plug the moment i feel disturbance in the Force.
16:26 Oak aah. cool.
16:26 magnuse lol
16:26 wahanui I know.
16:26 jcamins that's right.
16:26 wahanui OK, jcamins.
16:26 jcamins wahanui: that's right is <reply>I know.
16:26 wahanui jcamins: what?
16:26 jcamins wahanui: that's right.
16:25 wahanui koha 2.2.9 is *years* old, too
16:25 jcamins And Koha 2.2.9!
16:25 jcamins That way lies madness.
16:25 jcamins I think she may have the kind of blood that the blood banks always need.
16:25 jcamins Oak: she's donating blood. I imagine she'll be back in a few hours.
16:24 magnuse beware of the dark side, Oak
16:24 * Oak goes to turn on Windoze pc
16:23 magnuse hehe
16:23 Oak good :)
16:23 magnuse yup
16:23 Oak i guess...
16:23 Oak cait left for home?
16:22 magnuse Oak
16:21 Oak :)
16:21 Oak jcamins
16:21 jcamins Oak
16:21 Oak magnuse
16:21 Oak kia ora #koha
16:19 reiveune bye
15:48 kf bye all
15:25 * huginn reloads and spins the chambers.
15:25 huginn *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
15:25 kf @roulette
15:25 huginn kf: *click*
15:25 kf @roulette
15:24 huginn rhcl_away: wizzyrea was last seen in #koha 16 hours, 21 minutes, and 0 seconds ago: <wizzyrea> with my fush and chups.
15:24 rhcl_away @seen wizzyrea
15:06 libsysguy since all date functions are moving from C4::Dates to Koha::Calendar
15:05 libsysguy there is one that is going to take some time to stort out
15:05 libsysguy I got most of them taken care of quickly
15:05 libsysguy negative ghost rider :-/
15:05 jcamins I hope that was on a staging server?
15:05 jcamins Ugh.
15:04 libsysguy so if you happen to be running hourlyâ€¦don't update
15:04 libsysguy i ran a merge this morning and it broke all kinds of stuff with hourly
14:53 libsysguy morning #Koha
14:34 collum Hi oleonard
14:32 oleonard Hi collum
14:06 jwagner Oh, well. I had an idea for it, but doesn't look like it's feasible right now. Thanks.
14:06 gmcharlt jwagner: no, doesn't look like its hooked into any authentication mechanism at present
14:01 jwagner gmcharlt, can SIP use that field?
14:01 kf I think
14:01 kf but should be masked everywhere to makse sense
14:00 francharb yep
14:00 francharb something you can export for exemple
14:00 kf something that is not supposed to be seen - I think
14:00 francharb for a third application
14:00 francharb that it's just a way to store a login/password
14:00 francharb but you make me realise
14:00 francharb kf, jwagner and i tested it thinking it would give us another login/password
13:59 kf ah, h ad not read back yet - sorry!
13:56 francharb :)
13:56 francharb thanks kf, thats what gmcharlt was just telling us!
13:55 kf francharb: and I think it should always display masked and is not related to teh other fields, only a separate password field, perhaps for another application or something
13:54 kf francharb: sorry, was helping a coworker - I think the idea is to store an additional field - like a pin for self check
13:53 jwagner I just tested it, it doesn't seem to work in current head....
13:53 francharb thanks gmcharlt, i will test it!
13:51 gmcharlt but I doubt its commonly used, so I wouldn't be too surprised if it fell prey to bit rot
13:51 gmcharlt I'm sure somebody wanted that back in the day
13:51 gmcharlt the intention of the password feature in patron attributes is simply to allow more than one login password
13:51 francharb any idea?
13:50 gmcharlt francharb: ok, I've finished reading scrollback
13:49 jwagner checking git blame on an older system blames that unknown person gmcharlt :-)
13:47 gmcharlt what's the question?
13:38 francharb hehe
13:38 * francharb sounds dramatic
13:38 francharb hdl advice was to ask gmcharlt, maybe he is one who can tell us who did this
13:37 francharb i have no idea
13:37 jcamins Who did patron attributes?
13:35 francharb jwagner, i think so... i will try to find more about what was the idea behind before reporting this in bugzilla ;)
13:34 jwagner Sorry I couldn't help. Looks like a feature that was never truly implemented
13:34 francharb i will try to dig that later!
13:34 francharb anyway, thanks jwagner
13:33 francharb autocomplete--
13:33 francharb ;)
13:33 francharb :(
13:33 francharb oh sorry
13:33 jcamins francharb: oh, you're talking to jwagner.
13:32 jcamins francharb: uhhh...
13:32 francharb jcamins, i can see what you mean but if you are at the circ desk and have the privilege to modify borrowers records, then you can bypass the protection. if you dont have these privilege, well then, you can do nothing...
13:31 jcamins If only it had coincided with KohaCon. :\
13:30 * jcamins packs his suitcase for a trip to India.
13:30 jcamins oleonard: I meant remotely, but, hell yeah!
13:29 oleonard All-expenses paid.
13:29 jcamins Seems like it might be a good way to dissuade further messages.
13:28 * jcamins feels like perhaps he should have said that he's available for doing the migration.
13:27 jcamins ;)
13:27 jcamins Reassuring, isn't it?
13:26 oleonard The off-list reply couldn't have been more textbook
13:26 jcamins oleonard: I know.
13:25 oleonard jcamins: That Koha 2.2.9 conversation unfolded exactly as predicted! :)
13:25 jwagner I don't know. I can think of a few situations where staff might not want circ desk people to change data, but the field doesn't block changes by staff with less than superlibrarian rights.
13:24 francharb jwagner, sounds logical but at the same time, as a librarian, why would i want a password protected field in the patron record?
13:22 jwagner Which would seem to be the obvious purpose of it....
13:21 jwagner The password seems to serve no useful purpose -- once you've entered a password next to an attribute in a patron record, it doesn't use it to block changes to that field.
13:21 kf bug
13:21 francharb weird
13:21 francharb no more â€¢â€¢â€¢â€¢
13:20 francharb well kf, it masks the infut when i modify the attribute but once i saved it
13:19 JesseM Hi kf!
13:18 kf hi JesseM
13:18 kf afaik
13:18 kf but no encryption
13:18 kf francharb: making it little stars ****
13:18 kf francharb: I think all it does is mask the input
13:08 francharb anyway, if anyone knows, well, let me know! ;)
13:08 francharb ok
13:08 francharb jcamins, really?
13:08 francharb if by any chance, you have 2s for my question, i would be very happy gmcharlt ;)
13:08 jcamins gmcharlt is always connected. :)
13:07 francharb :)
13:07 francharb oh no, gmcharlt is connected
13:07 francharb i will try later
13:06 francharb thanks hdl
13:06 francharb humm
13:06 hdl francharb: maybe gmcharlt
13:05 francharb ?
13:05 francharb anyone knows
13:05 francharb :(
13:05 francharb it's still _not_ obvious how it works
13:05 francharb and well
13:04 francharb i tried to set up one
13:04 francharb it says "Check to make it possible to associate a password with this attribute."
13:04 francharb do you know what the "allow password" option is made for?
13:04 francharb i 've got a question on the patron attibutes
13:03 francharb hum
12:48 * jcamins_away decides not to respond to that message.
12:40 huginn chris_n: The current temperature in Erwin, North Carolina is 9.0ï¿½C (7:15 AM EST on November 29, 2011). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 9.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady).
12:40 chris_n @wunder 28334
12:40 * chris_n looks in
12:22 jcamins_away Yup.
12:19 kf dilip
12:19 kf ah
12:19 kf huh?
12:17 jcamins_away kf: about the direct response.
12:16 kf grouse?
12:15 * jcamins_away grouses.
10:30 magnuse kf: cool!
10:29 kf hi AmitG
10:29 kf one of my coworkers is there
10:29 AmitG heya kf :D
10:29 kf perhaps I should have told you :)
10:29 kf oh
10:18 magnuse it's a german conference, but most of the talks are in english, i think
10:17 Judit let me see
10:17 Judit hm
10:17 magnuse only if you are interested in semantic web in libraries
10:16 Judit shall i click on this?:)
10:16 magnuse oh my, there's a live stream http://www.livestream.com/swib
10:12 magnuse ooh, wish i was at http://swib.org/swib11/
09:36 magnuse Oak
09:35 Oak magnuse
09:35 Oak :)
09:35 magnuse yay
09:35 Oak presentation done \o/
09:27 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7275] Pagination lost when click in the option "Show more" of facets column <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7275>
09:24 indradg kf++
09:12 kf system preferences under logs
09:11 kf yep
09:11 rangi and a way to turn them on and off, like the other logging
09:11 rangi thatd be the way to do it
09:11 magnuse kf++
09:11 kf so can get tested and into koha
09:11 kf a super bug to add more logging and smaller bugs for each feature?
09:11 rangi yeah
09:11 kf perhaps make a bug?
09:10 indradg FWIW, I added logging to the currency modification and it seems to be working
09:10 indradg or is there something else that I should pay attention to?
09:09 indradg rangi, so, if I want to add logging / audit trails to every other module that does not have it, it is simply including C4::Log.pm and calling the logaction() with the desired 4 parameters?
08:31 rangi but not everything
08:31 rangi a lot of things are logged
08:31 rangi nope
08:30 indradg but all the modules of Koha like setting up of basic params or say currency etc does not log anything to that table, does it?
08:29 rangi thats it indradg
08:28 indradg rangi, ^^
08:24 rangi ++ to the security people who emailed me too
08:24 indradg as per Koha 3.4 schema is action_logs the table for maintaining audit trails?
08:24 fredericd ++ to everybody involved in patching that security hole in the hurry...
08:23 fredericd I understand, I've seen
08:23 rangi 6628 being the really nasty one for 3.6.x
08:22 rangi nope, it was released fast because of 6628 and 6629
08:22 kf yeah, I didn't see one either
08:22 fredericd maybe
08:22 fredericd I don't see a commit for that
08:22 kf perhaps been forgotten :(
08:22 kf that could well be
08:22 kf ah
08:22 fredericd I'm not sure that last .po files have been added to 3.6.x branch
08:21 kf I checked them locally for fatal errors but all seemed ok, so I didn't do more than that
08:21 kf I worked with pootle to translate the files up there, didn't upload anything new
08:21 kf fredericd: sorry, not sure what you are asking?
08:20 fredericd kf: Do you have your last German translation in 3.6.1?
08:14 rangi wb
08:14 kf back
08:13 francharb hi
08:11 rangi hi france
08:10 hdl hi
08:10 sophie_m hello #koha
08:09 julian_m hi all
08:06 asaurat hi!
07:50 reiveune hiya ;-)
07:49 indradg hiya reiveune
07:49 reiveune :-/
07:48 reiveune hi cait, magnuse, and everybody :)
07:48 cait and bbiab
07:48 cait and morning paul_p
07:48 cait morning magnuse and reiveune :)
07:41 wahanui bonjour, reiveune
07:41 reiveune hello
07:40 adminacct indradg
07:36 magnuse hiya rangi and alex_a and cait
07:36 rangi heya alex_a
07:35 alex_a hello magnuse
07:35 alex_a hello rangi
07:35 rangi hi magnuse
07:34 magnuse kia ora #koha
06:59 rangi hmm that would be a huge amount of development
06:45 indradg cait, np :)
06:37 cait hm cold
06:37 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -0.1ï¿½C (7:29 AM CET on November 29, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: -1.0ï¿½C. Windchill: 0.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 30.26 in 1024.6 hPa (Steady).
06:37 cait @wunder Konstanz
06:36 cait indradg: sorry, not alot of ideas about that
06:16 indradg when the connection is restored
06:16 indradg so even if the connection is down, they need the local library to go on functioning and re-sync / update the master
06:15 cait hm
06:15 cait seems like all they want is what you would normally do with a consortia
06:15 indradg uncertain nature of broadband connectivity in india
06:14 cait what is the main reason to keep them on different installations?
06:14 cait yes
06:14 indradg cait, what they are looking at would require some serious customizations imo
06:12 cait indradg: not sure about that - seems a bit hard to do with different installatons
06:08 indradg (d) have a way for the central mgmt to see who is working on which module at the libraries
06:07 Judit 1library 20 branches?
06:06 indradg (c) centrally retrieve circulation data and reporting
06:06 indradg (b) allow them to centrally see (as well as over an unified OPAC) how many of these items (that was sought) are out in circulation along with their holding branch
06:05 indradg (a) allow someone to see a search conducted across all 20+ libraries
06:05 Oak electricity...
06:04 indradg now, the management wants to build a central facility that will do the following
06:04 indradg these servers are independent of each other at the moment
06:03 indradg the basic scenario is this - there are 20 something libraries on Koha 3.4 (version can be upgraded) being installed on their local on-premise servers
06:02 indradg folks... i need to build an union catalog using Koha... well sort of... so was wondering if I can pick on the collective brains
05:57 Guest18653 perhaps we should not include that in the INSTALL.ubuntu doco..in 2.4 it says Install DB::mysql perl module
05:56 indradg rangi, around?
05:55 Guest18653 hmmm i c..
05:54 indradg gmcharlt, ping
05:51 Oak Brooke has kindly offered to help though :) i just emailed her the things
05:51 Oak and in conclusion, wrote that the library will work on alternative funding options to decrease its dependence on government funding...
05:50 Oak and said Capital Development Authority and Ministry of Education will provide the funding
05:50 Oak decided to make a public library.
05:50 Oak kind of. at the risk of being wrong however.
05:47 cait have you figured out the other things?
05:47 cait oh
05:43 Oak need to make a presentation now for the project...
05:42 cait hello mr oak :)
05:42 Oak hello miss cait :)
05:34 cait morning #koha
05:14 Oak hello #koha
05:10 rangi sudo apt-get install mysql-client
05:09 rangi but if u really want to cpan it on, which I wouldn't recommend u need
05:08 rangi for that one
05:08 rangi sudo apt-get install libdbd-mysql-perl
05:08 rangi u shouldn't need to cpan anything
05:08 rangi follow the INSTALL.ubuntu document
05:07 rangi ahh ubuntu
05:07 rangi what distribution of linux are u installing on?
04:50 Guest18653 If you guys can help that will be great as I find the installation is the same as with the liblime koha. thanks for your help in advance.
04:50 Guest18653 i am trying to install the latest koha 3.6 with ubuntu 11.10 but have found that I am getting a mysql_config error on the cpan component while installing DBD::mysql.
04:49 Guest18653 hope this messages finds you well.
04:48 Guest18653 hi all
04:12 Judit http://xkcd.com/806/
03:35 eythian hello AmitG
03:35 AmitG heya rangi, Robin
03:24 jenkins_koha chris.nighswonger: Release Notes for 3.06.01.000
03:24 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.6.x build #5: STILL UNSTABLE in 40 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.6.x/5/
02:46 rangi sleep well
02:46 chris_n ok, folks, sleepy time
02:45 * chris_n has spent too much time working on the script
02:44 chris_n now utf8 is screwed up again
02:44 chris_n ouch
02:44 chris_n fixed there too
02:43 jenkins_koha Starting build 5 for job Koha_3.6.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE)
02:42 * chris_n will do it now
02:41 rangi ahh that oughta be ok, we could change the one on koha-community.org .. and i think that would be fine
02:40 chris_n I pushed an updated copy of the release notes, but they'll be incorrect in the tarballs
02:40 chris_n fixed
02:34 chris_n seems to be a malformed query
02:31 rangi weird
02:30 chris_n http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/buglist.cgi?content=2629%2C2847%2C3958%2C4161%2C5150%2C5885%2C5945%2C5974%2C6390%2C6471%2C6475%2C6628%2C6629%2C6679%2C6799%2C6895%2C6955%2C6963%2C6977%2C6989%2C6994%2C7061%2C7069%2C7076%2C7084%2C7085%2C7095%2C7117%2C7128%2C7134%2C7138%2C7146%2C7184%2C7185%2C7188%2C7207%2C7221&list_id=16081&query_format=advanced&order=bug_id%20DESC&query_based_on=
02:30 chris_n still no joy
02:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6628 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , [security] help system use insecure REFERRER for file inclusion
02:25 jenkins_koha * chris.nighswonger: Release Notes for 3.06.01.000
02:25 jenkins_koha * chris.nighswonger: Updating Version Number to 3.06.01.000
02:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6629 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED , [security] insecure use of Cookie for language selection
02:25 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 6628 : Stopping a potential vulnerability
02:25 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 6629 : Follow up, sanitising in a couple more places
02:25 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 6629 : Follow up to trap vuln in webinstaller and fixing the error
02:25 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 6629 : Sanitizing input from language cookie
02:25 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.6.x build #4: STILL UNSTABLE in 41 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.6.x/4/
02:23 rangi yeah that is odd
02:23 rangi hmm
02:23 chris_n I can fix that on my end, but I'd think BZ's search would handle that
02:23 chris_n list
02:23 chris_n none of those appear in the lsit
02:22 chris_n several bug #'s appear multiple times in the search string
02:22 chris_n hmm
02:22 rangi ahh makes sense
02:22 rangi could be
02:22 chris_n but that's why its not in the release notes
02:22 chris_n bugzilla bug?
02:22 rangi how odd
02:21 chris_n but in the list it does not appear
02:21 chris_n in the "Content:" line I see 6629
02:21 chris_n http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/buglist.cgi?content=2629%2C2847%2C3958%2C4161%2C5150%2C5885%2C5945%2C5974%2C6390%2C6471%2C6475%2C6628%2C6629%2C6629%2C6629%2C6679%2C6679%2C6679%2C6679%2C6679%2C6679%2C6799%2C6895%2C6955%2C6963%2C6977%2C6989%2C6994%2C7061%2C7069%2C7076%2C7084%2C7085%2C7095%2C7117%2C7128%2C7134%2C7138%2C7146%2C7184%2C7185%2C7188%2C7207%2C7221&list_id=16080&query_format=advanced&order=bug_id%20DESC&query_based_on=
02:21 chris_n try this:
02:21 chris_n weirdness
02:18 rangi nice work anyway :)
02:18 rangi hehe
02:16 chris_n automation--
02:16 chris_n hmm
02:16 rangi ah, just didnt see it in the release notes
02:16 chris_n and one 6628
02:16 chris_n 3 6629 patches made it in
02:09 rangi did 6629 not make it in?
02:09 chris_n automation++
02:08 rangi chris_n++
02:07 chris_n thar tis
01:43 jenkins_koha Starting build 4 for job Koha_3.6.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE)
00:07 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7140] Add item type description on the catalogue search and detail screens <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7140>