Time Nick Message 06:17 rangi http://www.itwire.com/business-it-news/open-source/51377-koha-trademark-grab-trust-hopes-commonsense-prevails 08:00 kmkale Namaskaar #koha 08:01 cait hi kmkale 09:47 cait rangi++ 09:47 rangi doesnt work without the bot 09:47 cait oh no! 09:47 cait perhaps we should drop gmcharlt a note? asking nicely to bring back huginn? 09:48 rangi go right ahead 09:48 cait heh 09:54 magnuse kia ora #koha 09:55 rangi heya magnuse 09:55 wahanui somebody said magnuse was afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza. 09:55 magnuse hehe 09:55 magnuse hiya rangi 09:56 cait hi magnuse :) 09:56 cait you have good timing 09:56 cait :) 09:56 magnuse guten morgen cait! 09:56 magnuse good timing? 09:57 cait yep, you can take over for rangi :) 09:57 magnuse as your moral support? 09:57 cait exactly :) 09:58 magnuse hehe 09:59 magnuse i should head out in about 30 minutes 09:59 magnuse catch what little light i can 09:59 magnuse and hey, it's not raining! 10:01 cait ooh 10:01 cait ok, I will go and vote then 10:02 magnuse you're having an election too? 10:03 cait about a big building project 10:03 cait stuttgart 21 10:03 magnuse ah 10:03 cait a new underground main station for stuttgart 10:04 magnuse and you get to vote? 10:04 cait after a lot of protests about the project 10:04 cait it made evening news for weeks 10:04 cait it will still cost a lot of money to stop it now, because they already started 10:05 * magnuse looks at the map 10:05 magnuse heh, do rottweilers come from Rottweil? 10:06 cait I have no idea 10:09 cait stuttgart is the state capital of baden-württemberg 10:09 magnuse ah, guess it makes sense then 10:09 cait http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuttgart_21 10:11 magnuse yeah, that does sound ambitious... 10:11 cait = expensive? 10:11 magnuse probably 10:12 cait yah 11:09 * cait nick cait_afk 13:34 kmkale Namaskaar #koha 13:50 * jcamins_away considers reprising the William Jennings Bryan speech, "You shall not crucify mankind upon a cross of paper." 13:52 cait hm? 13:52 cait hi jcamins_away :) 13:56 jcamins_away Good morning, cait. 13:56 jcamins Our co-op application weighs in at a hair under 1kg. 13:58 cait wow 13:58 cait but it#s done now? 13:58 jcamins Shari's putting the last finishing touches in. 13:58 cait bug 7269 drives me crazy :( 14:00 jcamins :( 14:05 francharb hi all! 14:07 jcamins Looks like not everyone who should be reads koha-devel. 14:13 kmkale hi cait :) 14:36 cait hi kmkale :) 14:36 * jcamins waves, too. 14:39 cait hi francharb :) 14:39 francharb hi cait 14:39 cait nice new bug awaiting sign-off! 14:39 cait 5974 14:39 kmkale hi jcamins 14:39 kmkale hi francharb 14:39 cait oh I so miss huginn 14:39 francharb hi kmkale 14:39 jcamins Hi kmkale. 14:40 kmkale so how's sunday coming along? 14:40 * jcamins too 14:40 jcamins kmkale: we're almost done with our co-op application. 14:40 jcamins More than 200 pages. 14:40 kmkale mine's almost over. Just finished dinner 14:41 kmkale jcamins: co-op like slef's? 14:41 jcamins We'll be having breakfast shortly. 14:41 jcamins kmkale: no, it's a co-op building. 14:41 jcamins It's a New York thing. Instead of just buying apartments outright, you have to join the co-op that controls the building. 14:41 kmkale jcamins: residence or library? 14:41 jcamins Residence. 14:42 jcamins It's a really nice building, but the application process is a bit painful. 14:42 kmkale aahh. Good for you then :) new house 14:42 jcamins Yup. 14:43 kmkale dont the estate agents handle that sorta thingi? 14:43 jcamins Not really. 14:44 jcamins We're meeting with the broker today to go over the application, so hopefully he'll help a bit, but mostly he just gave us the 45-page form and said "fill this out." 14:44 kmkale Here they prepare everything. We just have to go to the registrar's office and sign 14:44 kmkale and pay of sourse ;) 14:45 jcamins Of course. 14:45 francharb jcamins, but then, you will be part of the co-op right? 14:45 jcamins francharb: if we're approved, yes. 14:46 francharb jcamins, you're bying your apartment or you rent one which part of a co-op? 14:47 jcamins We're buying. 14:47 jcamins Time for breakfast! Be back in a few minutes. 14:49 kmkale bye all. see ya tomorrow.. 14:52 francharb bye kmkale ! 14:57 magnuse 45 pages! 15:00 * jcamins returns, having breakfasted. 15:00 cait heh :) 15:01 * cait advertises her bug again ... 5974 :) 15:01 cait or a nice typo fix 15:01 jcamins rangi's follow-up for 6629 doesn't fix the problem. 15:01 cait jcamins: hm did for me 15:01 cait I ran into the problem you described 15:01 cait with the update for fines in day 15:01 cait s 15:02 cait another easy one (before I forget the number again): 7143 15:02 jcamins Oh, maybe I applied the wrong patch? 15:02 jcamins Which patch? 15:02 wahanui Which patch are we talking about? 15:02 jcamins Oh, it's already signed off. 15:02 jcamins Never mind. 15:02 cait yeah, i did this morning 15:02 cait but I see he did more 15:03 jcamins Right, but I need to apply the signed-off patch first. 15:04 * jcamins was just confused. 15:05 cait hm 15:05 cait what to reply to joel? 15:05 jcamins "Be patient." 15:06 jcamins And "subscribe to koha-devel if you're using git." 15:06 jcamins I sent out a warning message yesterday. 15:06 cait yep, I saw it 15:07 jcamins How do I attach something using git-bz? 15:07 cait git bz attach -e bugnumber HEAD 15:08 cait the -e brings up the eidor 15:08 cait editor 15:08 cait you have to be fast 15:08 cait but you can obsolete apatch this way, uncommenting it 15:10 jcamins Thanks. 15:21 jcamins That's pretty cool, incidentally. 15:21 cait :) 15:21 cait could you help me with something? 15:22 jcamins I can try. 15:22 jcamins What's up? 15:22 cait 6894 15:23 cait paul failed it but it works for me - could you double check? 15:23 jcamins Grr. huginn! We miss you! 15:23 jcamins huginn huginn huginn 15:23 cait I wrote gmcharlt 15:23 cait an email 15:23 cait asking to bring back huginn :) 15:24 jcamins :) 15:24 jcamins Let me respond to Joel, then I'll see if I can test it. 15:25 cait thank you! 15:37 jcamins E-mailed. 15:40 cait jcamins++ 15:41 jcamins cait: I don't have much experience with acquisitions, and I can't figure this out. 15:41 jcamins Sorry. 15:41 jcamins :( 15:42 cait ah, it's really quite easy 15:42 cait but it's ok 15:42 cait perhaps the comment will work :( 15:42 cait in fact you would only have to add a suggestion form opac and then open that suggestoin in the suggestion module 15:43 cait and check the pull down for currency at the bottom 15:43 jcamins Ohh. 15:43 jcamins From the *OPAC*. 15:43 jcamins Let me try again. 15:43 cait you can also add one from staff - the result sould be the same, offering usd, not ca 15:43 cait d 15:44 jcamins I can confirm the bug. 15:44 jcamins I'll test the fix. 15:44 cait thx :) 15:44 jcamins Works for me. 15:45 cait yay :) 15:45 jcamins When I created a suggestion in the staff client, it didn't have this problem. 15:45 jcamins Maybe you can't fill in the price? 15:46 * jcamins reads through the rest of the bug. 15:46 jcamins Actually, I can confirm the bug in both places. 15:47 jcamins It's *creating* a new suggestion in the staff client, but *editing* a suggestion created in the OPAC. 15:47 cait hm? 15:47 jcamins I thought after I created a suggestion in the staff client, when I went back to edit it the currency would be wrong. 15:48 cait hm no it should be empt 15:48 cait y 15:48 cait until you open it in the suggestoin module 15:48 cait and there it preselected the wrong currency 15:48 cait so when you didn't pay attention, you would get strange currencies in there 15:51 jcamins Yup. 15:51 * jcamins attached the signed off patch. 15:51 jcamins Right. 15:51 magnuse jcamins++ 15:51 magnuse cait++ 15:53 cait jcamins++ 15:56 jcamins Shari is reading through the entire application. 15:57 cait Shari++ :) 15:57 jcamins If she manages to do that in one sitting, I can only say she has the patience of a saint. 15:57 magnuse i just gotta say: wow! 16:00 jcamins Oh, that too. :) 17:34 sandeepbhavsar Hi all 17:34 sandeepbhavsar I would like to integrate EBSCO, Open access databases, through pazpar2 in Koha. Kindly guide me for the documentation. Step by step screenshots or video of the process in lecture form will be preferred. 17:36 cait sandeepbhavsar: I am not aware this has been done before 17:37 cait so it's unlikely there is documentation abou tit 17:37 cait you might have to figure it out on your own 17:51 jcamins_away Am I the only one who finds that request very off-putting? 17:54 cait nope 17:54 cait it's been on the mailing list before too, now the second time 18:08 jcamins Yeah, and I found it off-putting there, too. 18:08 magnuse i'm with you jcamins 18:46 rangi morning 18:46 rangi and yes 18:47 rangi very demanding in tone 18:49 magnuse kia ora rangi 18:49 cait morning rangi :) 18:49 magnuse how's monday morning? ;-) 18:49 rangi so far so good 18:49 magnuse yay 18:49 ibeardslee sure .. please provide the necessary software to interact with, the video gear and $150 per hour 18:50 rangi heh 18:50 cait lol 18:51 druthb kia ora. 18:51 magnuse i wonder if it's just a language thing - if it's meant different from how it sounds 18:51 magnuse o/ 18:51 rangi quite possible magnuse 18:51 rangi hey druthb :) 18:52 jcamins Yeah, I know it's probably a language thing, but it's still irritating. 18:53 magnuse it is! 18:53 jcamins The cookie bars are in the oven, though, and that's what matters. 18:54 * magnuse has pizza in the oven (again!) 18:54 cait cooooookies... 18:54 jcamins magnuse: pizza _Sunday_? 18:54 * druthb joins cait in the chant. "coooooookies" 18:54 jcamins pizza_sundy++ 18:54 cait coooookies! 18:55 jcamins pizza_sunday++ 18:55 * jcamins seriously considers throwing together some pizza dough. 18:55 magnuse yay 18:55 * druthb seriously considers kidnapping jcamins 18:55 magnuse every day is pizza day 18:55 magnuse (or can be) 18:55 jcamins And should be! 18:58 magnuse yay! that's the spirit! 19:00 * magnuse wanders off to eat pizza and watch "Machete" - and realises that might not be a clever combo 19:00 magnuse see ya! 19:00 rangi Hehe 19:00 rangi he killed the bad guys, he got the women, machete 19:02 indradg looks like i missed some fun 19:02 indradg jcamins, its primarily is a language thing... but not entirely that 19:03 * jcamins does his best to be understanding. 19:04 jcamins Some days with more success than others. 19:04 indradg yeah 19:05 indradg but sandeep must have been needing it bad... wont have been on IRC otherwise :P 19:06 rangi wow its a lot windier here than in island bay 19:06 indradg @wunder kolkata 19:06 jcamins indradg: huginn's down. 19:06 indradg awww :( 19:06 jcamins We're all suffering quite a lot from that. ;) 19:07 jcamins What baffles me about the message is that he resends the exact same message even when it doesn't get any response. 19:08 indradg jcamins, its whats Torvalds said about india and FOSS... most peeps into using FOSS sees it like a bottomless pit and the devels are people who can be badgered into helping 19:09 jcamins I'd think that would slow down FOSS adoption. 19:09 jcamins With people expecting help that they'll never get. 19:09 rangi bbiab 19:09 rangi off to meetings 19:09 jcamins (and then being angry about how FOSS has "failed" them) 19:09 indradg writing or tinkering with code just because it is fun and rewarding in itself is now a concept shared by many in india 19:11 indradg jcamins, guess what.. recently I encountered fantastic M$FT driven FUD in the government segment here - top officials commenting in meeting - "you know Free Software is not really free, you have to buy subscriptions to the community, only then the community helps" 19:11 indradg s/now/not 19:12 jcamins indradg: that's what I mean- the idea that FOSS developers should be available to solve everything would make FUD like that much easier to disseminate. 19:13 indradg yeah\ 19:16 jcamins Ah well. I'm not going to solve the problems of the world via IRC. ;) 19:16 indradg :D 19:17 jcamins Until I'm made dictator of the world, of course. 19:17 jcamins Then I will make all my decrees via IRC. ;) 19:17 druthb as long as it involves "cookies for all!" then I'm backin' you, jcamins. 19:18 jcamins Cookies *and* fudge for all. 19:18 druthb wahoo! 19:21 * druthb pokes at Pandora to give Cat Stevens yet another thumbs-down. I thought after you nixed someone a few times, you'd never hear 'em again. 19:22 * druthb envisions the programmers saying, "oh, yes, but *everyone* likes Cat Stevens, so we'll ignore that for him," and thinks evil, evil thoughts. 19:23 indradg lol 19:24 jcamins LOL 19:24 druthb I've managed to game it a little. I have a station where I only thumbs-up about four artists...Everyone else gets ignored or thumbs-down. Those four artists get played a *lot*, and they're all pretty prolific, so plenty for it to choose from. 19:25 jcamins Whoops. Didn't mean caps, though I did actually laugh out loud. 19:25 indradg hehe 19:30 cait :) 21:29 eythian http://www.newsbiscuit.com/2011/11/27/microsoft-goes-bust-as-error-messages-trademarked/ <-- rangi 21:30 cait huh? 21:30 eythian what's huh? 21:31 cait I was wondering what rangi had to do with it :) 21:31 cait and hi eythian :) 21:31 eythian I thought it might be amusing 21:31 eythian hello :) 21:36 cait hi kathryn 21:36 kathryn Hello cait hows things? 21:36 cait good, still a bit time before monday :) 21:37 kathryn oh true! enjoy 21:37 cait thx :) 21:55 mtj morning all 21:56 * mtj waves to the herd 21:56 cait hi mtj 21:56 rangi been reading slashdot? 21:56 * rangi pops in for a minute before next meeting 21:56 mtj hmm, nope 21:56 * cait waves 21:57 rangi ahh someone called us herdish there 21:58 mtj ah, yeah - def. read *that* slashdot story 22:00 cait night all :) 22:01 mtj hi and bye cait :) 22:04 eythian bye cait 22:17 Brooke o/ 23:19 Brooke don't all talk at once :P 23:22 druthb hi, BobB and Irma. :D 23:28 Brooke hooray 23:38 Brooke Eagles. So. Bad.