Time  Nick           Message
06:17 rangi          http://www.itwire.com/business-it-news/open-source/51377-koha-trademark-grab-trust-hopes-commonsense-prevails
08:00 kmkale         Namaskaar #koha
08:01 cait           hi kmkale
09:47 cait           rangi++
09:47 rangi          doesnt work without the bot
09:47 cait           oh no!
09:47 cait           perhaps we should drop gmcharlt a note? asking nicely to bring back huginn?
09:48 rangi          go right ahead
09:48 cait           heh
09:54 magnuse        kia ora #koha
09:55 rangi          heya magnuse
09:55 wahanui        somebody said magnuse was afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza.
09:55 magnuse        hehe
09:55 magnuse        hiya rangi
09:56 cait           hi magnuse :)
09:56 cait           you have good timing
09:56 cait           :)
09:56 magnuse        guten morgen cait!
09:56 magnuse        good timing?
09:57 cait           yep, you can take over for rangi :)
09:57 magnuse        as your moral support?
09:57 cait           exactly :)
09:58 magnuse        hehe
09:59 magnuse        i should head out in about 30 minutes
09:59 magnuse        catch what little light i can
09:59 magnuse        and hey, it's not raining!
10:01 cait           ooh
10:01 cait           ok, I will go and vote then
10:02 magnuse        you're having an election too?
10:03 cait           about a big building project
10:03 cait           stuttgart 21
10:03 magnuse        ah
10:03 cait           a new underground main station for stuttgart
10:04 magnuse        and you get to vote?
10:04 cait           after a lot of protests about the project
10:04 cait           it made evening news for weeks
10:04 cait           it will still cost a lot of money to stop it now, because they already started
10:05 * magnuse      looks at the map
10:05 magnuse        heh, do rottweilers come from Rottweil?
10:06 cait           I have no idea
10:09 cait           stuttgart is the state capital of baden-württemberg
10:09 magnuse        ah, guess it makes sense then
10:09 cait           http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuttgart_21
10:11 magnuse        yeah, that does sound ambitious...
10:11 cait           = expensive?
10:11 magnuse        probably
10:12 cait           yah
11:09 * cait         nick cait_afk
13:34 kmkale         Namaskaar #koha
13:50 * jcamins_away considers reprising the William Jennings Bryan speech, "You shall not crucify mankind upon a cross of paper."
13:52 cait           hm?
13:52 cait           hi jcamins_away :)
13:56 jcamins_away   Good morning, cait.
13:56 jcamins        Our co-op application weighs in at a hair under 1kg.
13:58 cait           wow
13:58 cait           but it#s done now?
13:58 jcamins        Shari's putting the last finishing touches in.
13:58 cait           bug 7269 drives me crazy :(
14:00 jcamins        :(
14:05 francharb      hi all!
14:07 jcamins        Looks like not everyone who should be reads koha-devel.
14:13 kmkale         hi cait :)
14:36 cait           hi kmkale :)
14:36 * jcamins      waves, too.
14:39 cait           hi francharb :)
14:39 francharb      hi cait
14:39 cait           nice new bug awaiting sign-off!
14:39 cait           5974
14:39 kmkale         hi jcamins
14:39 kmkale         hi francharb
14:39 cait           oh I so miss huginn
14:39 francharb      hi kmkale
14:39 jcamins        Hi kmkale.
14:40 kmkale         so how's sunday coming along?
14:40 * jcamins      too
14:40 jcamins        kmkale: we're almost done with our co-op application.
14:40 jcamins        More than 200 pages.
14:40 kmkale         mine's almost over. Just finished dinner
14:41 kmkale         jcamins: co-op like slef's?
14:41 jcamins        We'll be having breakfast shortly.
14:41 jcamins        kmkale: no, it's a co-op building.
14:41 jcamins        It's a New York thing. Instead of just buying apartments outright, you have to join the co-op that controls the building.
14:41 kmkale         jcamins: residence or library?
14:41 jcamins        Residence.
14:42 jcamins        It's a really nice building, but the application process is a bit painful.
14:42 kmkale         aahh. Good for you then :) new house
14:42 jcamins        Yup.
14:43 kmkale         dont the estate agents handle that sorta thingi?
14:43 jcamins        Not really.
14:44 jcamins        We're meeting with the broker today to go over the application, so hopefully he'll help a bit, but mostly he just gave us the 45-page form and said "fill this out."
14:44 kmkale         Here they prepare everything. We just have to go to the registrar's office and sign
14:44 kmkale         and pay of sourse ;)
14:45 jcamins        Of course.
14:45 francharb      jcamins, but then, you will be part of the co-op right?
14:45 jcamins        francharb: if we're approved, yes.
14:46 francharb      jcamins, you're bying your apartment or you rent one which part of a co-op?
14:47 jcamins        We're buying.
14:47 jcamins        Time for breakfast! Be back in a few minutes.
14:49 kmkale         bye all. see ya tomorrow..
14:52 francharb      bye kmkale !
14:57 magnuse        45 pages!
15:00 * jcamins      returns, having breakfasted.
15:00 cait           heh :)
15:01 * cait         advertises her bug again ... 5974 :)
15:01 cait           or a nice typo fix
15:01 jcamins        rangi's follow-up for 6629 doesn't fix the problem.
15:01 cait           jcamins: hm did for me
15:01 cait           I ran into the problem you described
15:01 cait           with the update for fines in day
15:01 cait           s
15:02 cait           another easy one (before I forget the number again): 7143
15:02 jcamins        Oh, maybe I applied the wrong patch?
15:02 jcamins        Which patch?
15:02 wahanui        Which patch are we talking about?
15:02 jcamins        Oh, it's already signed off.
15:02 jcamins        Never mind.
15:02 cait           yeah, i did this morning
15:02 cait           but I see he did more
15:03 jcamins        Right, but I need to apply the signed-off patch first.
15:04 * jcamins      was just confused.
15:05 cait           hm
15:05 cait           what to reply to joel?
15:05 jcamins        "Be patient."
15:06 jcamins        And "subscribe to koha-devel if you're using git."
15:06 jcamins        I sent out a warning message yesterday.
15:06 cait           yep, I saw it
15:07 jcamins        How do I attach something using git-bz?
15:07 cait           git bz attach -e bugnumber HEAD
15:08 cait           the -e brings up the eidor
15:08 cait           editor
15:08 cait           you have to be fast
15:08 cait           but you can obsolete apatch this way, uncommenting it
15:10 jcamins        Thanks.
15:21 jcamins        That's pretty cool, incidentally.
15:21 cait           :)
15:21 cait           could you help me with something?
15:22 jcamins        I can try.
15:22 jcamins        What's up?
15:22 cait           6894
15:23 cait           paul failed it but it works for me - could you double check?
15:23 jcamins        Grr. huginn! We miss you!
15:23 jcamins        huginn huginn huginn
15:23 cait           I wrote gmcharlt
15:23 cait           an email
15:23 cait           asking to bring back huginn :)
15:24 jcamins        :)
15:24 jcamins        Let me respond to Joel, then I'll see if I can test it.
15:25 cait           thank you!
15:37 jcamins        E-mailed.
15:40 cait           jcamins++
15:41 jcamins        cait: I don't have much experience with acquisitions, and I can't figure this out.
15:41 jcamins        Sorry.
15:41 jcamins        :(
15:42 cait           ah, it's really quite easy
15:42 cait           but it's ok
15:42 cait           perhaps the comment will work :(
15:42 cait           in fact you would only have to add a suggestion form opac and then open that suggestoin in the suggestion module
15:43 cait           and check the pull down for currency at the bottom
15:43 jcamins        Ohh.
15:43 jcamins        From the *OPAC*.
15:43 jcamins        Let me try again.
15:43 cait           you can also add one from staff  - the result sould be the same, offering usd, not ca
15:43 cait           d
15:44 jcamins        I can confirm the bug.
15:44 jcamins        I'll test the fix.
15:44 cait           thx :)
15:44 jcamins        Works for me.
15:45 cait           yay :)
15:45 jcamins        When I created a suggestion in the staff client, it didn't have this problem.
15:45 jcamins        Maybe you can't fill in the price?
15:46 * jcamins      reads through the rest of the bug.
15:46 jcamins        Actually, I can confirm the bug in both places.
15:47 jcamins        It's *creating* a new suggestion in the staff client, but *editing* a suggestion created in the OPAC.
15:47 cait           hm?
15:47 jcamins        I thought after I created a suggestion in the staff client, when I went back to edit it the currency would be wrong.
15:48 cait           hm no it should be empt
15:48 cait           y
15:48 cait           until you open it in the suggestoin module
15:48 cait           and there it preselected the wrong currency
15:48 cait           so when you didn't pay attention, you would get strange currencies in there
15:51 jcamins        Yup.
15:51 * jcamins      attached the signed off patch.
15:51 jcamins        Right.
15:51 magnuse        jcamins++
15:51 magnuse        cait++
15:53 cait           jcamins++
15:56 jcamins        Shari is reading through the entire application.
15:57 cait           Shari++ :)
15:57 jcamins        If she manages to do that in one sitting, I can only say she has the patience of a saint.
15:57 magnuse        i just gotta say: wow!
16:00 jcamins        Oh, that too. :)
17:34 sandeepbhavsar Hi all
17:34 sandeepbhavsar I would like to integrate  EBSCO, Open access databases, through pazpar2 in Koha. Kindly guide me for the documentation. Step by step screenshots or video of the process in lecture form will be preferred.
17:36 cait           sandeepbhavsar: I am not aware this has been done before
17:37 cait           so it's unlikely there is documentation abou tit
17:37 cait           you might have to figure it out on your own
17:51 jcamins_away   Am I the only one who finds that request very off-putting?
17:54 cait           nope
17:54 cait           it's been on the mailing list before too, now the second time
18:08 jcamins        Yeah, and I found it off-putting there, too.
18:08 magnuse        i'm with you jcamins
18:46 rangi          morning
18:46 rangi          and yes
18:47 rangi          very demanding in tone
18:49 magnuse        kia ora rangi
18:49 cait           morning rangi :)
18:49 magnuse        how's monday morning? ;-)
18:49 rangi          so far so good
18:49 magnuse        yay
18:49 ibeardslee     sure .. please provide the necessary software to interact with, the video gear and $150 per hour
18:50 rangi          heh
18:50 cait           lol
18:51 druthb         kia ora.
18:51 magnuse        i wonder if it's just a language thing - if it's meant different from how it sounds
18:51 magnuse        o/
18:51 rangi          quite possible magnuse
18:51 rangi          hey druthb :)
18:52 jcamins        Yeah, I know it's probably a language thing, but it's still irritating.
18:53 magnuse        it is!
18:53 jcamins        The cookie bars are in the oven, though, and that's what matters.
18:54 * magnuse      has pizza in the oven (again!)
18:54 cait           cooooookies...
18:54 jcamins        magnuse: pizza _Sunday_?
18:54 * druthb       joins cait in the chant.  "coooooookies"
18:54 jcamins        pizza_sundy++
18:54 cait           coooookies!
18:55 jcamins        pizza_sunday++
18:55 * jcamins      seriously considers throwing together some pizza dough.
18:55 magnuse        yay
18:55 * druthb       seriously considers kidnapping jcamins
18:55 magnuse        every day is pizza day
18:55 magnuse        (or can be)
18:55 jcamins        And should be!
18:58 magnuse        yay! that's the spirit!
19:00 * magnuse      wanders off to eat pizza and watch "Machete" - and realises that might not be a clever combo
19:00 magnuse        see ya!
19:00 rangi          Hehe
19:00 rangi          he killed the bad guys, he got the women, machete
19:02 indradg        looks like i missed some fun
19:02 indradg        jcamins, its primarily is a language thing... but not entirely that
19:03 * jcamins      does his best to be understanding.
19:04 jcamins        Some days with more success than others.
19:04 indradg        yeah
19:05 indradg        but sandeep must have been needing it bad... wont have been on IRC otherwise :P
19:06 rangi          wow its a lot windier here than in island bay
19:06 indradg        @wunder kolkata
19:06 jcamins        indradg: huginn's down.
19:06 indradg        awww :(
19:06 jcamins        We're all suffering quite a lot from that. ;)
19:07 jcamins        What baffles me about the message is that he resends the exact same message even when it doesn't get any response.
19:08 indradg        jcamins, its whats Torvalds said about india and FOSS... most peeps into using FOSS sees it like a bottomless pit and the devels are people who can be badgered into helping
19:09 jcamins        I'd think that would slow down FOSS adoption.
19:09 jcamins        With people expecting help that they'll never get.
19:09 rangi          bbiab
19:09 rangi          off to meetings
19:09 jcamins        (and then being angry about how FOSS has "failed" them)
19:09 indradg        writing or tinkering with code just because it is fun and rewarding in itself is now a concept shared by many in india
19:11 indradg        jcamins, guess what.. recently I encountered fantastic M$FT driven FUD in the government segment here - top officials commenting in meeting - "you know Free Software is not really free, you have to buy subscriptions to the community, only then the community helps"
19:11 indradg        s/now/not
19:12 jcamins        indradg: that's what I mean- the idea that FOSS developers should be available to solve everything would make FUD like that much easier to disseminate.
19:13 indradg        yeah\
19:16 jcamins        Ah well. I'm not going to solve the problems of the world via IRC. ;)
19:16 indradg        :D
19:17 jcamins        Until I'm made dictator of the world, of course.
19:17 jcamins        Then I will make all my decrees via IRC. ;)
19:17 druthb         as long as it involves "cookies for all!" then I'm backin' you, jcamins.
19:18 jcamins        Cookies *and* fudge for all.
19:18 druthb         wahoo!
19:21 * druthb       pokes at Pandora to give Cat Stevens yet another thumbs-down.  I thought after you nixed someone a few times, you'd never hear 'em again.
19:22 * druthb       envisions the programmers saying, "oh, yes, but *everyone* likes Cat Stevens, so we'll ignore that for him," and thinks evil, evil thoughts.
19:23 indradg        lol
19:24 jcamins        LOL
19:24 druthb         I've managed to game it a little.  I have a station where I only thumbs-up about four artists...Everyone else gets ignored or thumbs-down.  Those four artists get played a *lot*, and they're all pretty prolific, so plenty for it to choose from.
19:25 jcamins        Whoops. Didn't mean caps, though I did actually laugh out loud.
19:25 indradg        hehe
19:30 cait           :)
21:29 eythian        http://www.newsbiscuit.com/2011/11/27/microsoft-goes-bust-as-error-messages-trademarked/ <-- rangi
21:30 cait           huh?
21:30 eythian        what's huh?
21:31 cait           I was wondering what rangi had to do with it :)
21:31 cait           and hi eythian :)
21:31 eythian        I thought it might be amusing
21:31 eythian        hello :)
21:36 cait           hi kathryn
21:36 kathryn        Hello cait hows things?
21:36 cait           good, still a bit time before monday :)
21:37 kathryn        oh true! enjoy
21:37 cait           thx :)
21:55 mtj            morning all
21:56 * mtj          waves to the herd
21:56 cait           hi mtj
21:56 rangi          been reading slashdot?
21:56 * rangi        pops in for a minute before next meeting
21:56 mtj            hmm, nope
21:56 * cait         waves
21:57 rangi          ahh someone called us herdish there
21:58 mtj            ah, yeah - def. read *that* slashdot story
22:00 cait           night all :)
22:01 mtj            hi and bye cait :)
22:04 eythian        bye cait
22:17 Brooke         o/
23:19 Brooke         don't all talk at once :P
23:22 druthb         hi, BobB and Irma. :D
23:28 Brooke         hooray
23:38 Brooke         Eagles. So. Bad.