Time  Nick             Message
23:40 druthb           hi, bag!
23:34 bag              :)
23:34 bag              hi druthb
23:33 druthb           o/
23:23 mtj              ... ok, enuff bitching from me - back to work
23:21 mtj              um... yes
23:19 eythian          http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/australasia/ugg-how-a-minnow-put-the-boot-into-a-fashion-giant-523444.html <-- deja vu all over again?
23:12 mtj              yep, a very *predictably* messy situation
23:10 BobB             These things take a life of their own.  Messy.
23:08 mtj              yep, its a pretty standard munged summary of the issue
23:04 BobB             hey mtj, that Bloomberg article isn't very accurate, eh!
23:03 BobB             Hi bag!
23:00 bag              hi there BobB
22:52 mtj              oops, wrong channel, was chatting to BobB
22:52 bag              yup
22:52 mtj              ah , gotcha!
22:52 bag              :)
22:52 mtj              heya brendan
22:49 wahanui          DeM KraZy NutZ!!
22:49 bag              heya mtj?
22:44 mtj              http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-11-23/alliancebernstein-seagate-chick-fil-a-intellectual-property.html
22:44 mtj              ... Koha trademark dispute on bloomberg news-hoover
20:41 Oak              night
20:24 druthb           lol
20:22 mtj              (the flames are chaffing my nipples :( )
20:21 mtj              yes, point taken, i am regretting my poor suit selection
20:10 ibeardslee       most people aim for a flame retardant suit .. but each to their own
20:08 mtj              - shot misses, scores no damage
20:08 * mtj            is luckily wearing his flame-retard suit
20:02 * druthb         would give mtj the ebil eye that would frizzle his hair off....but someone else already did.
20:00 * mtj            waves to folk in the 'hlt-KOHA' community
19:59 * druthb         chuckles.
19:59 Brooke           time to get back to the ridonkulously cute nephews
19:59 * druthb         demands pictures
19:58 Brooke           I haven't been a pony yet. I bet that's coming up before dinner...
19:58 Brooke           hmmmm
19:57 Brooke           It is unpossible to spell Māori correctly on /. Stupid encoding.
19:56 druthb           No, I mean "Koha."  Spelled correctly.
19:56 Brooke           rofl mason
19:55 * druthb         pokes mtj with a spork.
19:55 mtj              druthb:  i think you mean 'hlt-KOHA'
19:53 druthb           yes for reals.  :)  New library joining a consortium.
19:53 Brooke           Womern, you better not be letting Lindsey starve.
19:52 Brooke           ugh for reals?
19:50 * druthb         is thankful for all these libraries going to Koha--so much, that she's bringing another one live today.  :)
19:49 * Brooke         has been in full bore Children's Librarian mode for the last day or so.
19:48 Brooke           for right now, I'm taking a break from the nephews.
19:48 Brooke           I need to do that again and again when I get home
19:48 Brooke           good on you
19:48 Oak              making a CV...
19:48 * druthb         looks around behind her.
19:48 Oak              not much Brooke :)
19:47 Brooke           Howdy, M'am.
19:47 Brooke           what's up Oak?
19:47 Oak              :)
19:47 druthb           hi, Brooke.  :)
19:47 Brooke           someone called me a ratbag. :D
19:47 Brooke           rofl
19:47 wahanui          I'M TAKING THE PISS OUT OF 'EM. or a ratbag.
19:47 Oak              Brooke!!
19:47 * Brooke         makes the turkey call.
19:26 cait             :)
19:26 francharb_away   see ya!
19:26 * francharb_away hugs everybody before going to bed!
19:13 cait             hi mtj :)
19:02 mtj              heya ruth
18:57 druthb           hi, mtj! :)
18:38 jcamins          cait: I know. :)
18:38 cait             network glitch?
18:38 cait             huginn is run by gmcharlt I think
18:37 jcamins          Huginn! No!
18:35 cait             :)
18:25 Oak              heh. thank you.
18:24 * druthb         shudders
18:24 * druthb         may have been in marketing in a past life.
18:24 Oak              just kidding. of course.
18:24 jcamins          Yes.
18:24 druthb           "Active participant in the global Koha software community."
18:24 jcamins          Oak: probably not.
18:23 Oak              should I include I signed off ONE bug?
18:22 * jcamins        has finished the gnocchi.
18:20 Oak              okay :)
18:20 * Oak            reading http://www.career.vt.edu/resumeguide/ContentSections.html
18:20 cait             you don#t want that
18:20 cait             and boring
18:20 cait             it's all german
18:20 cait             hehe
18:19 Oak              cait, i need to look at bad cvs also. so...
18:19 Oak              :)
18:19 Oak              jcamins,  applying for the job of Assistant Librarian
18:19 cait             mine is not good for that
18:19 cait             ah
18:19 jcamins          Oak: for what?
18:18 druthb           "(11:39:29) ***Oak wants to look at the CV of someone... to get an idea of how it should be done..."
18:18 Oak              yes please :) i'd really appreciate it.
18:18 cait             huh?
18:17 druthb           Oak, I'd be happy to send you my resume and CV, if you like...both need updating, tho.
18:17 * druthb         catches up....
18:17 druthb           hi, cait! :)
18:16 Oak              hello miss cait :)
18:14 cait             hi again all
17:41 * Oak            wants to look at the CV of someone... to get an idea of how it should be done...
17:39 Oak              later rangi :)
17:38 rangi            cya's later
17:38 rangi            gonna stop to have coffee with jo in levin on the way, and give her a hug for dealing with all the mayhem
17:37 * rangi          waves as he heads out to the car to drive to marton, training a koha library, who are moving from 2.0 to 3.6 .. lots of differences, but awesome .. they are a 9 year old koha library
17:31 kf               ok, closing windows - you won :)
17:28 Oak              :]
17:27 kf               :)
17:26 Oak              yup
17:26 kf               watching out for me? :)
17:26 kf               heh
17:25 Oak              kf, time to go home
17:25 huginn           kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 1.0�C (6:00 PM CET on November 24, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 0.0�C. Pressure: 30.56 in 1035 hPa (Rising).
17:25 kf               @wunder Konstanz
17:17 huginn           druthb: The current temperature in Spring Hill, Tennessee is 13.1�C (1:15 PM AST on November 24, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: 9.0�C. Pressure: 30.38 in 1028.7 hPa (Steady).
17:17 druthb           @wunder 38401
16:47 reiveune         bye
16:01 druthb           heh.
16:01 * Oak            goes to annoy his sister
16:00 Oak              good
16:00 druthb           doing well. :)
16:00 Oak              :) how are you druthb
16:00 druthb           hello, Oak! :)
15:59 Oak              hello dear friends
15:53 kf               you make me hungry!
15:51 * jcamins        is making 2.2 kg of sweet potato gnocchi.
15:49 magnus_afk       we'll see!
15:49 kf               magnus_afk: yum
15:49 kf               :)
15:49 magnuse          time to make pizza! (yeah, 1 day early...)
15:36 bosco            jcamins: Thanks, will do.
15:35 jcamins          bosco: send a message to the mailing list.
15:35 bosco            Thanks - there is a slight change I need made to the paid support contact
15:35 jcamins          bosco: wizzyrea usually takes the responsibility for updating things, but it's managed by the concensus by the community.
15:34 bosco            Hey - anyone know who looks after the Support page on the koha-community site?
15:30 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7254 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, m.de.rooy, ASSIGNED , Show pending orders from baskets with closedate > 180 days
15:30 jenkins_koha     m.de.rooy: Bug 7254 Show pending orders from baskets with closedate > 180 days
15:30 jenkins_koha     Project Koha_master build #535: STILL UNSTABLE in 47 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/535/
15:27 druthb           drive-by Nateing.
15:26 magnuse          i mean that was a quick visit from NateC
15:26 magnuse          that was quick
15:25 kf               marijana++ and jcamins++
15:25 druthb           hi, NateC! :)
15:25 magnuse          yay!
15:25 huginn           magnuse: Karma for "marijana" has been increased 5 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 5.
15:25 magnuse          @karma marijana
15:24 asaurat          marijana++
15:24 asaurat          nice! :)
15:24 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6022 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, dpavlin, ASSIGNED , Auth_with_ldap check if categorycode is valid
15:24 * dpavlin        eagerly awaits progress of bug 6022 which marijana++ just signed off :-)
15:24 marijana         hi druthb, big hug to you to!!
15:23 magnuse          marijana++
15:22 druthb           hi, marijana!  *hug*
15:21 marijana         hihi, my first sign-off
15:14 magnuse          jcamins++
15:14 jcamins          Done.
15:13 kf               thx jcamins :)
15:13 jcamins          That was my plan. :)
15:13 jcamins          Sure.
15:13 paul_p           jcamins, add your confirm on bugzilla pls. The more the better (no needed to sign-off the patch itself)
15:12 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7250 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED , stage_biblios_file.pl is missing options for encodings, wrongly passing the MARC flavour instead
15:12 jcamins          paul_p: I can confirm bug 7250.
15:08 kf               paul_p: sorry, I will check
15:07 kf               no idea then, will check tonight
15:07 kf               which is what you write
15:07 kf               hm
15:07 kf               should only change when you do soemthing with it
15:06 kf               after making the suggestion from opac it shoud be null
15:06 kf               the null is totally right before you do anything with it
15:06 kf               ok, what I mean is :)
15:06 paul_p           yep, that's what I understood from the test plan. But it didn't :(
15:06 kf               paul_p: it should default when you open the suggestion for editing in suggestion module
15:05 kf               ah
15:05 kf               paul_p: I am not lucky today - will try again tonight. but seemed to have worked before? :(
15:03 * kf             blushes and hides
15:01 * druthb         offers cookies
15:00 * magnuse        comes out of hiding, but is still a bit wary...
14:59 druthb           kf++
14:59 druthb           no need to hide, magnuse...
14:53 huginn           New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7254 Show pending orders from baskets with closedate > 180 days <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fd949453e86b2def06b471a3b3bfa293bce78a75>
14:49 * magnuse        peeps out from his hidingplace
14:49 magnuse          kf++
14:49 paul_p           for all those great test plans
14:49 paul_p           kf++
14:43 jenkins_koha     Starting build 535 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #491 1 mo. 6 j ago)
14:42 * magnuse        hides
14:41 druthb           muhar
14:41 kf_mtg           she is planning something
14:41 druthb           to make you wonder what mischief I'm up to, magnuse.  It apparently worked.
14:41 kf_mtg           magnuse: fast, hide!
14:40 paul_p           pushing...
14:40 paul_p           mmm... no i'm wrong. Removing it is not related to what 7254 tries to achieve, but it's OK
14:39 magnuse          ?
14:39 * druthb         grins wickedly at magnuse.
14:39 * paul_p         feels there's a bug in 7254 patch... (removing OR closedate IS NULL as well)... trying to check
14:38 magnuse          o/
14:38 druthb           hi, kf!.  :)
14:38 kf_mtg           hi druthb :)
14:37 druthb           o/
14:36 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4330 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , Copyright statements out of date
14:36 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5974 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Bogus auth check for "StaffMember" role
14:36 jenkins_koha     * Chris Cormack: Bug 4330: Missing License Statement
14:36 jenkins_koha     * Chris Cormack: Bug 4330: Wrong address for Free Software Foundation
14:36 jenkins_koha     * oleonard: Fix for Bug 5974 - Bogus auth check for "StaffMember" role
14:36 jenkins_koha     Project Koha_master build #534: STILL UNSTABLE in 48 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/534/
14:34 kf_mtg           attaching records for you now
14:33 kf_mtg           the change has been made to the interface, but the old command line script was forgotten - which is why we ran into problems now :)
14:33 kf_mtg           it's not the one used from the interface
14:33 kf_mtg           the script is a command line script
14:33 kf_mtg           that's the problem then
14:33 kf_mtg           ah
14:33 paul_p           kf_mtg, nope, from interface
14:33 kf_mtg           paul_p: you tried it from commandline?
14:28 magnuse          paul_p++
14:28 paul_p           hello marijana !
14:28 paul_p           pile of patch to push almost done
14:28 kf_mtg           hi marijana :)
14:28 marijana         hello :)
14:27 kf_mtg           did your meeting go well?
14:27 magnuse          hiya marijana
14:27 kf_mtg           ah nice :)
14:27 * paul_p         planned to work on this today or tommorow (2 days just dedicated to community, except few distractions)
14:27 paul_p           and one of the complain is because the test is now wrong
14:27 kf_mtg           either test is wrong and we need new tests, or something is wrong with the patch
14:26 kf_mtg           so send it back, say it breaks the test
14:26 paul_p           yep but i'm not chris & now we have a QA team
14:26 kf_mtg           the one breaking the test
14:26 kf_mtg           I think basically
14:26 kf_mtg           chris did most of the time I think
14:26 kf_mtg           but not sure about the others
14:26 paul_p           (a question i have is: who should fix the problem: the RM or the QA team -that includes the RM-)
14:26 kf_mtg           yeah, but I think we should fix it :) I could try to fix the perlcritic thing
14:25 paul_p           (I know jenkins is unhappy)
14:25 paul_p           kf_mtg, I had pushed your patch without any problem if I could have reproduce it. But couldn't. That makes me bother for a MARC21/UNIMARC specific thing, and just want to double check
14:22 magnuse          :-)
14:22 kf_mtg           paul_p: another thing - jenkins is unhappy :(
14:22 * kf_mtg         nick kf
14:22 kf_mtg           it's quite important for us - we use those scripts for nightly imports from the union catalog, matching on the ppn/control number
14:21 kf_mtg           I am going to deliver examples ;)
14:21 kf_mtg           but
14:21 kf_mtg           I only transferred the changes that have been made for the gui into the script
14:21 kf_mtg           it calls the sub with marcflavour, when it's expecting an encoding
14:21 kf_mtg           what the script does now is completely wrong
14:20 kf_mtg           you know me well
14:20 kf_mtg           heh
14:17 paul_p           kf_mtg, yep (was sure you would call me quickly ;-) )
14:17 kf_mtg           paul_p: around?
14:16 kf_mtg           happy thanksgiving :)
14:08 magnuse          happy thanksgiving to you too jcamins
14:07 magnuse          ah, that's why it's quiet...
14:00 jcamins          Happy Thanksgiving, #koha!
13:48 jenkins_koha     Starting build 534 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #491 1 mo. 6 j ago)
13:48 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7191 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, ASSIGNED , C4::Circulation exports non-existant subroutine GetBorrowerIssues
13:48 jenkins_koha     colin.campbell: Bug 7191 Remove GetBorrowerIssues from @EXPORT
13:48 jenkins_koha     Project Koha_master build #533: STILL UNSTABLE in 48 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/533/
13:29 huginn           New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 4330: Missing License Statement <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=40bd14e0ea98152377a0a416482fe0227fee17bd> / Bug 4330: Wrong address for Free Software Foundation <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=93d4c90a681d527044567bbbb7d5f81aec31a6b5>
13:19 huginn           New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 5974 - Bogus auth check for "StaffMember" role <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f1d46529f9cdbcad3fc11c6dfcbb82854a1ce64d>
13:17 kf_mtg           and he is very unhappy
13:17 kf_mtg           oh
13:16 kf_mtg           why is jenkins so unhappy? :(
13:11 gaetan_B1        hello ! can someone confirm to me that in 3.6, when biblio.serial == 1, a tab for subscriptions will appear on the OPAC ?
13:00 jenkins_koha     Starting build 533 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #491 1 mo. 6 j ago)
12:59 jenkins_koha     Project Koha_master build #532: STILL UNSTABLE in 48 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/532/
12:58 huginn           New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7191 Remove GetBorrowerIssues from @EXPORT <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=862b6ee90dfad9d00fc29bc4dc2d3cf8e0159815>
12:58 hdl              anyone knows when the Notification refactoring meeting will take place ?
12:29 kf_mtg           sekjal: around?
12:11 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7091 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, ASSIGNED , Patches required to make the packages know about the 3.6 release
12:11 jenkins_koha     Starting build 532 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #491 1 mo. 6 j ago)
12:11 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7073 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED , GetCOinSBiblio should take $record, not $biblionumber
12:11 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6303 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, srdjan, ASSIGNED , Display Organisation and Parent Organisation names when viewing a borrower of type organisation
12:11 jenkins_koha     * robin: Bug 7091 - [MASTER/3.6.x/3.4.x] - update the changelogs for the 3.4 series
12:11 jenkins_koha     * robin: Bug 7091 - [MASTER] - update the build version for packages from master
12:11 jenkins_koha     * ian.walls: Bug 7073: GetCOinSBiblio should take $record object, not biblionumber
12:11 jenkins_koha     * srdjan: Bug 6303: Display Organisation and Parent Organisation names when viewing a borrower of type organisation
12:11 jenkins_koha     Project Koha_master build #531: STILL UNSTABLE in 48 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/531/
12:09 huginn           Barrc: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
12:09 Barrc            huginn: thanks
12:09 Barrc            oops - not Mozilla bugzilla!
12:08 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6828 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, barry, ASSIGNED , Add Admin Dashboard for staff users.
12:08 Barrc            I've upload a new patch for the Dashboard [Bug 6828], if anyone is interested in testing it (and pointing out the "sure to be many" errors in it)
11:23 jenkins_koha     Starting build 531 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #491 1 mo. 6 j ago)
11:23 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4877 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, magnus, ASSIGNED , Create and update the manual pages for the koha-* scripts.
11:23 jenkins_koha     magnus: Bug 4877 - Add DocBook for missing manual pages
11:22 jenkins_koha     Project Koha_master build #530: STILL UNSTABLE in 49 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/530/
11:06 huginn           New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6916] Selecting the acq date of an item should take you to the invoice page for it <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6916>
10:58 huginn           New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7091 - [MASTER/3.6.x/3.4.x] - update the changelogs for the 3.4 series <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0fd451060eb2cd88d3f44e68dfa8da6e9ae2956d> / Bug 7091 - [MASTER] - update the build version for packages from master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=03dffd8374ee3df9836346b56d56d9bdd2e32e31> / Bug 7073: GetCOinSBiblio should take $record object, not bibli
10:47 huginn           New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6303: Display Organisation and Parent Organisation names when viewing a borrower... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2b2e544f054acc5c220dfca035554e2d13b27cdf>
10:34 jenkins_koha     Starting build 530 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #491 1 mo. 6 j ago)
10:33 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7242 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Typo in opac-shelves.tt
10:33 jenkins_koha     Chris Cormack: Bug 7242 : Fixing typo in a div
10:33 jenkins_koha     Project Koha_master build #529: STILL UNSTABLE in 50 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/529/
10:11 francharb        sleep tight  joann !
10:11 joann            ok whanau - i'm off to bed
10:04 huginn           New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'new/enh/bug_4877' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5c2def51587c4b2636b5f066306b8bd5dc0e7a7a> / Bug 4877 - Add DocBook for missing manual pages <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fab2d8b0abdb2a1af711d8b2ee6f287eef35d91d>
10:03 francharb        joann++
10:02 joann            only as strong as the people whose shoulders i am held up by
10:02 joann            well i do have a cast of thousands remember
10:01 magnuse          joann++
09:57 kmkale           :)
09:56 joann            thanks - i did try to get it simple
09:54 kmkale           Jo you sounded great on that radio. And surprisingly I did not have to strain myself to understand what was said. Unlike when we spoke directly ;)
09:54 magnuse          might get a gale, waves of up to 36 meters and sea levels 1 meter above normal
09:51 magnuse          first storm of the season is brewing...
09:51 huginn           magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 7.0�C (10:20 AM CET on November 24, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 1.0�C. Windchill: 1.0�C. Pressure: 29.33 in 993 hPa (Steady).
09:51 magnuse          @wunder boo
09:50 magnuse          ah
09:49 joann            daniel
09:48 magnuse          ginger ninja?!?
09:48 joann            koustubha :)
09:47 joann            oh i forgot how awesome the ginger ninja looked doing the haka
09:46 joann            oh yes lol
09:45 magnuse          http://www.flickr.com/photos/enger/tags/haka/ ;-)
09:45 joann            and i agree - koha is really precious
09:45 francharb        :)
09:45 joann            yes paul - yes you did :)
09:45 magnuse          :-)
09:45 rangi            :)
09:45 paul_p           (and i danced the haka, once !)
09:44 * paul_p         feel so too (even me, I feel I don't measure it well...)
09:44 Oak              time for class. later.
09:44 rangi            im not sure that ptfs/liblime understand the importance of the word here
09:44 paul_p           do you know that in france, there is a morning-drink trademarked as "bonjour" ?
09:43 rangi            for them, its just one more example of cultural exploitation
09:43 rangi            maori radio have been talking about it a lot
09:43 francharb        lol
09:43 jenkins_koha     Starting build 529 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #491 1 mo. 6 j ago)
09:43 paul_p           joann, do you think your queen Elisabeth II will speak of this ? In UN maybe ? :D
09:43 rangi            well, it pretty much annoyed 500,000 maori people right away
09:42 joann            it is overwhelming
09:42 joann            yup
09:42 huginn           francharb: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
09:42 francharb        @quote add joann> don't mess with kiwis :)
09:42 * paul_p         feel this is a little bit too much (but in a positive way ;-) )
09:41 rangi            from nelson mail
09:41 rangi            i saw another newspaper article today
09:41 joann            i had 8 radio stations yesterday wanting radio interviews - including 1 from sydney
09:40 rangi            its amazing how big
09:40 magnuse          hehe
09:40 joann            don't mess with kiwis :)
09:40 rangi            yeah
09:40 francharb        ;)
09:40 francharb        kiwi rule!
09:40 joann            kiwis are so pissed off
09:40 joann            a great team - NZs best
09:39 joann            yup
09:39 joann            and got the entire PTFS file today as result of an official information request.
09:39 magnuse          how cool is that, eh!
09:39 joann            we have 3 working on this for us!
09:39 joann            furneaux
09:39 joann            and Rochelle
09:39 magnuse          cool
09:38 joann            yup - him
09:38 joann            offered us council lawyers - but Sacha is  in a league of her own
09:38 magnuse          the guy who held the reception for kohacon10?
09:38 magnuse          yay
09:38 joann            our Mayor is so pissed
09:38 magnuse          thanks
09:38 joann            asked by someone else
09:38 magnuse          did the pm ask, or was he asked by someone else?
09:38 francharb        fine with me ;)
09:38 Barrc            why do you ask about vim?
09:37 joann            yup - most countries seem to know approx. value of USD in local currency
09:37 francharb        maybe we dont mind, money is money...
09:37 rangi            wow
09:37 rangi            joann: oh he did?
09:37 francharb        joann, i noticed the donation throught paypal was in USD and not NZD... is it normal?
09:37 magnuse          oh 3x wow!
09:36 joann            Govt ministers involved now - prime minister asked a direct question about it today
09:36 wahanui          vim is probably at http://wiki.koha-community.org/w/index.php?title=Vim
09:36 magnuse          vim?
09:36 magnuse          vim is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/w/index.php?title=Vim
09:36 wahanui          magnuse: I forgot vim
09:36 magnuse          wahanui: forget vim
09:36 joann            lots of syupport
09:36 wahanui          vim is unusual if you don't know it
09:36 magnuse          vim?
09:36 joann            the palaver is fine - I'm not concerned toomuch.
09:36 magnuse          vim is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/w/index.php?title=Vim
09:36 wahanui          perltidy is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Perltidy
09:36 magnuse          perltidy?
09:36 Barrc            rangi: no
09:36 magnuse          perltidy is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Perltidy
09:36 rangi            http://wiki.koha-community.org/w/index.php?title=Vim
09:35 magnuse          perltidy?
09:35 rangi            do you use vim?
09:35 Barrc            rangi: Thanks - I really should search the wiki more!
09:35 francharb        ;)
09:35 francharb        sorry to hear the mess about ptfs, blablabla but fine
09:35 rangi            http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Perltidy
09:35 Barrc            yes, there will be new files
09:35 rangi            Barrc: its a whole new file?
09:35 Barrc            rangi: Can you point me to them?
09:35 francharb        i'm fine!
09:34 joann            babe .... how are you
09:34 joann            FRancois!
09:34 huginn           New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7242 : Fixing typo in a div <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fda4af9a3ee582a483695ba0cab4061101e2d56d>
09:34 rangi            Barrc: yes
09:34 francharb        too many nick for one person sometimes
09:34 joann            its all in paypal and i can refund with the click of a mouse if we are sweet
09:34 Barrc            Morning - are there any perltidy guidelines for patches etc? That is, should the files be formatted in a certain way?
09:34 francharb        oki
09:34 rangi            yep
09:34 francharb        by  the way
09:34 francharb        humm, joann joann ransom?
09:33 joann            i dont want to assume its pro bono if its not
09:33 rangi            yeah,that would be cool
09:33 francharb        hi joann, how are you doing?
09:33 joann            we might have enough for disbursements - for now anyway
09:33 magnuse          yay - sounds perfect
09:33 joann            i need to talk tomorrow about what it might cost us - would be cool if we could stop the donation drive.
09:32 joann            but we accepted the help of the best one in NZ - has very good reputation and knows opens ource well
09:31 magnuse          sounds like you got your cast :-)
09:31 joann            had another 3 trademark attorneys offering tohelp
09:31 joann            need a cast of thousands
09:31 joann            crashing now
09:31 joann            both
09:31 magnuse          how's yerself? exhausted? adrenaline-infused?
09:30 magnuse          hehe
09:29 joann            nothing much then ... :)
09:29 joann            oh cool
09:28 magnuse          apart from that, it's business as usual, i think
09:28 magnuse          well, there's been this trademark kerfuffle thingy... ;-)
09:27 joann            what have I missed in Koha world?
09:27 joann            hows things
09:26 rangi            hi joann
09:26 joann            hiya
09:24 kf               meeting time
09:24 kmkale           hi jransom :)
09:24 Oak              greetings jransom!
09:22 kf               kia ora jransom :)
09:22 magnuse          kia ora jransom!
09:22 wahanui          it has been said that jransom is gonna *smek* someone.
09:22 rangi            hey jransom
09:20 kf               pushing_patches++
09:20 paul_p           hi kmkale & kf & magnuse & others
09:20 kf               hi paul_p :)
09:20 kmkale           hi paul_p
09:20 magnuse          cleaning_the_office++
09:20 kf               we should do itl ike we do for authorities, 3 checkboxes
09:20 kf               and the interface stupid
09:20 magnuse          namaste kmkale
09:20 kf               the hidding things are messy
09:20 * paul_p         & others from BibLibre finishes cleaning the office. Now heading to push patches...
09:20 kmkale           hi kf
09:20 kmkale           hi magnuse
09:19 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4374 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, RESOLVED FIXED, Data entry form doesn't use hidden/mandatory flag as expected
09:19 magnuse          and bug 4374
09:18 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6439 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, REOPENED , In cataloguing all subfields are displayed, even with hidden=0
09:18 magnuse          there's bug 6439
09:17 kf               ah
09:17 magnuse          wanted to see if it affected the problem i had yesterday
09:16 magnuse          cause it's newer than 3.4.5? ;-)
09:15 kf               why did you update to 3.4.6?
09:14 magnuse          hm, can't see a relevant bug in the 3.4.6 release notes
09:13 magnuse          :-)
09:12 kf               not a data problem :)
09:12 kf               well, but that's good
09:12 kf               you found a way to 'display but not make editable'
09:12 magnuse          possibly
09:12 kf               so we have a problem with the hidden fields
09:12 kf               oh
09:12 magnuse          i tried it with 952y and that worked, at least
09:11 kf               ?
09:11 magnuse          kf: i have hidden = -1, when i change that to 0 it looks normal
09:11 kf               for the codes
09:11 kf               magnuse: some lowercase/uppercase side effects?
09:10 sirKims          sue, you use a bot to ID ana bot
09:10 Oak              magnuse++
09:09 magnuse          Susan: there's a list at the bottom here: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Regulars in fact, that whole page is relevant
09:09 kf               mysterious!
09:09 kf               magnuse: your frameworks look ok to me
09:08 wahanui          i am a repository of important and useful and accurate information or at least partially slow.
09:08 Susan            Wahanui...
09:08 kf               .. I think
09:08 kf               AmitG is real
09:08 AmitG            heya kf Susan :D
09:08 huginn           kf: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
09:08 wahanui          kf: excuse me?
09:08 kf               huginn, munin, wahanui
09:08 Susan            how will i be able to identify them?
09:08 sirKims          LOL!
09:07 Susan            i here some of the messages are sent by some robots.....
09:07 Oak              :)
09:07 Oak              true true
09:07 * kf             sends Oak cookies
09:07 kf               Susan: don't listen to Oak, he is a cookie addict
09:06 Oak              very important also
09:05 Oak              or annoy kf
09:05 kf               the making friends part is very important :)
09:05 Susan            nice.....
09:05 kf               yep
09:05 Susan            and make friends
09:05 magnuse          or just chat
09:05 magnuse          Oak
09:05 Oak              magnuse
09:05 magnuse          Susan: yup ;-)
09:05 magnuse          yeah, guess that's true
09:04 Susan            so this is where you can chat to solve your koha issues incase you have any
09:04 kf               the free text are ok
09:04 kf               controlled by authorized values or other thigns
09:04 kf               magnuse: it's the pull down list
09:04 Susan            SirKims
09:02 kf               oh that looks weird
09:01 Susan            were you at Kohacon11?
09:01 magnuse          the fields are "stuck" in the "add item" form too
09:01 Susan            Jambo Sir Kims
09:00 magnuse          sorry
09:00 magnuse          ah, test1/test1
09:00 kf               demo demo not workign magnuse
09:00 sirKims          jambo sue!
08:59 magnuse          kf: you can see it here, if you want: http://demo.bibkat.no:8080/cgi-bin/koha/cataloguing/additem.pl?biblionumber=1 login: demo/demo
08:57 magnuse          hm, it's the same with the english templates
08:57 magnuse          not yet ;-)
08:57 kf               generated new templates?
08:56 kf               have you checked your item frameworks?
08:56 kf               hm just text?
08:56 magnuse          upgraded from 3.4.5 to 3.4.6 last night, and now when i try to edit an item, some fields are just text, not a form element
08:55 kf               oh noes :(
08:55 magnuse          huh? more item weirdness...
08:53 kf               mornign magnuse :)
08:53 magnuse          kia ora #koha
08:40 francharb        hi kf rangi !
08:40 rangi            hi francharb
08:39 kf               hi matts and francharb :)
08:38 francharb        morning!
08:27 eythian          liw: long answer is noooooooooooooooo. Short answer is not yet :)
08:27 matts            hi everybody !
08:27 liw              oh, he left, I'll prod him later
08:27 Oak              later Brave Sir Robin
08:26 liw              eythian, any progress on my old perl packages? :)
08:26 eythian          later
08:26 julian_m         hello!
08:26 kf               have a nice evening then :)
08:26 kf               ah
08:26 eythian          kf: yeah
08:26 wahanui          migration is hard or <reply>If only they were using Koha to start with...
08:26 kf               eythian: migration?
08:26 * eythian        leaves now everything is done
08:26 eythian          hi liw
08:26 liw              eythian, hi
08:26 eythian          well, for 2 hours I do :)
08:26 eythian          I don't need to come in tomorrow :)
08:25 * eythian        adds up this weeks hours
08:25 eythian          also removed the SQL to fix the itypes by putting in a default value if there's no match (in this case, I set it to 'U')
08:25 rangi            ahh cool
08:24 eythian          so "if bibtype is S set the itype to J, replacing any other itype that's set"
08:24 rangi            ohhh tricky
08:23 eythian          (allowing one result to overwrite another one)
08:23 eythian          made an addition to csvtomarc to make that multiple fields thing a bit easier.
08:23 rangi            ooh sweet
08:22 eythian          rangi: been waiting for someone who is being slow, so got all that stuff done.
08:22 kf               hey rangi :)
08:22 rangi            hey kf
08:19 rangi            and hello matts
08:00 rangi            hi paul_p
07:53 marcelr          hi rangi
07:44 rangi            on the road?
07:44 rangi            hey marcelr
07:40 reiveune         hello
07:28 alex_a           rangi, cait Oak :) 'jour
07:25 Oak              Bonjour alex_a :)
07:23 cait             bonjour alex_a :)
07:23 rangi            hey there alex_a
07:23 alex_a           morning #koha !
06:27 Oak              :)
06:27 Oak              oh certainly, my apologies.
06:27 cait             lol
06:27 eythian          and it's 'Brave Sir Robin' to you.
06:27 Oak              :)
06:27 cait             :)
06:27 eythian          hi Oak
06:27 Oak              hello Mr. Robin
06:22 cait             hi eythian :)
06:22 eythian          hi cait
06:20 huginn           cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 0.0�C (7:00 AM CET on November 24, 2011). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 98%. Dew Point: 0.0�C. Pressure: 30.58 in 1036 hPa (Rising).
06:20 cait             @wunder Konstanz
05:48 cait             hi Oak :)
05:48 wahanui          what's up, wizzyrea
05:48 wizzyrea         hi
05:48 Oak              hello wizzyrea :)
05:47 Oak              Guten Morgen Mademoiselle cait :)
05:44 cait             :)
05:44 wizzyrea         mornin cait
05:44 cait             morning #koha
04:43 rangi            ok gotta feed the horde
04:42 rangi            got a few go lives before xmas so kinda slammed
04:40 stuartyeates     oh, ok. We have 3-4 people going, a whole range of roles
04:39 rangi            but not me
04:38 rangi            hmm my brother in law will be
04:36 stuartyeates     rangi: are you or any of your team going to be at NDF next week? (see http://ndf.natlib.govt.nz/about/2011-conference.htm ) I've got a demo on the second day where I'll be talking about http://opensourceexile.blogspot.com/2011/11/recreational-authority-control.html a wikipedia in general
04:29 Oak              kia ora #koha
04:27 wizzyrea         this comment could use a proper rebuttal: http://koha-community.org/plea-horowhenua-library-trust/comment-page-7/#comment-4203
03:50 eythian          hello kmkale
03:50 kmkale           hi eythian & rangi :)
03:46 eythian          hi AmitG
03:46 AmitG            heya Robin
03:46 eythian          It looks like the 'message_attributes' table didn't get populated like it should have.
03:43 rangi            looks like missing a table or data added in wrong order
03:43 rangi            hmm nope
03:42 eythian          that can't be good
03:42 eythian          ERROR 1452 (23000) at line 1: Cannot add or update a child row: a foreign key constraint fails (`koha_branz`.`message_transports`, CONSTRAINT `message_transports_ibfk_1` FOREIGN KEY (`message_attribute_id`) REFERENCES `message_attributes` (`message_attribute_id`) ON DELETE CASCADE ON UPD)
03:42 eythian          sample_notices_message_transports.sql
03:40 kmkale           Namaste AmitG
03:40 AmitG            Namaskaar kmkale :D
03:36 kmkale           Namaskaar #koha
03:26 AmitG            heya rangi, mtj :D
01:29 Judit            thanks
01:29 Judit            how obvious
01:28 rangi            .marc and .marcxml
01:28 rangi            biblioitems
01:18 Judit            i have already asked this like 1000 times but just once again: where is the marc record stored in the db again?
01:15 Judit            good idea rangi
01:10 rangi            bbiab
01:10 rangi            i should eat it
01:10 rangi            food
01:08 Judit            demo login is still not working for Equinox Software, Inc.
01:08 rangi            yep
01:07 Judit            ah
00:45 chrisdothall     its good to make those points, dont want end users worrying about their ability to continue using koha
00:45 rangi            point
00:45 rangi            https://twitter.com/#!/normnz/status/139503368702926849
00:45 rangi            i think this is an important potin to make too
00:44 rangi            *nod*
00:43 ibeardslee       I think especially when there are segments of nz that already touchy about our sovereignty .. with asset sales, acta, tppa, closed door deals
00:40 eythian          not too surprising really :)
00:40 rangi            its becoming an election issue!
00:39 rangi            http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA1111/S00484/us-software-company-trademarks-maori-word-koha-in-nz.htm
00:39 rangi            and the greens
00:39 rangi            http://www.waatea603am.co.nz/News/2011/November/Ministry-allows-koha-grab
00:32 eythian          I should read the code I guess
00:32 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5373 normal, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , fields listed on patron import do not match the csv file
00:32 eythian          hmm, the comment on bug 5373 confuses me: "Cardnumber is one of two fields stripped by line 64 in tools/import_borrowers.pl. If it is desirable to include 'cardnumber' in the field list, it should be removed from the grep in the underlying script at the above mentioned line." ... am I misunderstanding, or is cardnumber being removed?
00:26 jcamins          Whoops!
00:24 eythian          so the list of fields on the patron import screen fails to include 'cardnumber'. Oops.
00:22 eythian          (it was utterly pouring this morning, but seems to have recovered)
00:22 eythian          hah!
00:22 huginn           eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 14.0�C (1:00 PM NZDT on November 24, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady).
00:22 eythian          @wunder wellington, nz
00:22 huginn           eythian: Error: No such location could be found.
00:22 eythian          @wunder wellington
00:20 Judit            i am sorry, but cannot believe you when it comes to the weather in wellington
00:19 eythian          Judit: hello. it's sunny here.
00:18 Judit            morning from rainland
00:12 jcamins_away     Totally missed it.
00:12 jcamins_away     Ah.
00:12 jcamins_away     Gold medal flour, I think.
00:12 eythian          sorry, that was a failed joke :)
00:12 jcamins_away     That mess was from a 5lb bag of flour.
00:12 jcamins_away     eythian: in the clip.
00:11 eythian          jcamins_away: "flour" huh?
00:11 ibeardslee       just a little bit of baking then?
00:10 jcamins_away     They're both child *and* wife-proof.
00:10 * jcamins_away   uses 20gal buckets.
00:10 jcamins_away     wizzyrea: if a child got into my flour, *that* would be a disaster.
00:10 * wizzyrea       keeps the flour up high
00:10 wizzyrea         i know!
00:10 jcamins_away     wizzyrea: pfff. I think that was only five pounds.
00:09 wizzyrea         that's a lot of flour
00:09 rangi            heh
00:09 * jcamins_away   shows his entire family the clip.
00:07 rangi            hehe
00:07 ibeardslee       haha "what's the matter mummy"
00:06 eythian          jcamins_away: of course they are ;)
00:06 eythian          http://www.metafilter.com/109677/Oh-my-gosh#4043397 <-- related
00:06 jcamins_away     I mean, the code.
00:05 jcamins_away     rangi: eythian: jwagner said that they're working on releasing 4.8 Harley.
00:05 wizzyrea         HAHAHAHAHA
00:05 eythian          http://youtu.be/bPNyK7XTy6o <-- rangi