Time  Nick         Message
23:20 rangi        worlds easiest sign off
23:18 huginn       New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7242] Typo in opac-shelves.tt <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7242>
23:13 * rangi      sent up a patch to fix the templates failing one
23:11 * chris_n    wonders if all patch authors are running the appropriate tests on their work prior to submitting
23:07 rangi        lets get this green again eh?
23:07 rangi        http://jenkins.koha-community.org/monitor/?
22:05 huginn       04Bug 7112: normal, P5 - low, ---, henridamien, NEW , Having two prices in 020$c causes basket creation to fail from staged marc import
22:05 * wizzyrea   promotes a bug: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7112
21:55 sekjal       but in the log view, the code is assuming it's itemnumber, and trying to look up the biblionumber and biblioitemnumber accordingly
21:54 sekjal       apparently, all this time, the biblionumber has been what's logged for circulation logs
21:54 * cait       runs out
21:54 sekjal       found a fun new bug in action logs
21:54 libsysguy    cait++
21:54 libsysguy    thanks
21:54 libsysguy    haha night cait
21:53 cait         night all
21:53 cait         ok, now I will stop guessing and confusing and go to bed
21:53 cait         perhaps you can do something like that
21:53 cait         but you can do things like Control-number: in simple search forms
21:53 libsysguy    well im not entirely sure how the code works
21:53 cait         not sure about all that hehe
21:53 cait         hmm perhaps not
21:53 libsysguy    but would probaby work
21:53 libsysguy    hmm that would be something that would have to be implemented
21:52 cait         libsysguy: thx :)
21:52 * libsysguy  hands cait cookies
21:52 libsysguy    haha aww
21:52 rangi        paulnz: pasted you some logs in a private message
21:51 cait         getting late here :)
21:51 cait         *sighs*
21:51 cait         words
21:51 cait         where the sequence of works matters
21:51 cait         in advanced search - more options
21:51 cait         something like the phrase search we use for other fields
21:51 cait         I was thinking
21:50 libsysguy    what is a phrase callnumber index?
21:50 cait         would a phrase callnumber index work on that?
21:50 cait         hm
21:49 libsysguy    why can't we just use unique keys
21:49 libsysguy    yeah i hate call numbers
21:49 libsysguy    because it splits on the space
21:49 cait         the . will be ignored for example
21:49 wizzyrea     good old m27 .b4
21:49 wizzyrea     heh
21:49 cait         not sure about that
21:49 libsysguy    like "m27 .b4"
21:49 cait         hm
21:49 libsysguy    cait I think what margo was looking for was a way to do exact call number searching
21:47 rangi        hmm well the sip server is definitely running
21:46 paulnz       overdrive just tested now and got same error
21:44 rangi        31 ish hours ago
21:44 rangi        10:36:01 up 1 day,  7:24
21:44 rangi        lemme check
21:44 paulnz       when was the reboot?
21:44 rangi        heh
21:43 paulnz       hmmmmmmmmm - so much for 'nothing changed' reply from IT
21:41 rangi        if you could get them to test
21:41 rangi        paulnz: should be up now
21:40 rangi        and robin is at a conference so i suspect at your end
21:40 rangi        not by me
21:40 paulnz       rangi - by you or by us?
21:39 cait         libsysguy: stemming might be another candidate
21:39 rangi        2 secs
21:38 rangi        paulnz: ahh yes the server has been rebooted
21:37 libsysguy    maybe that does it
21:37 libsysguy    yes we do
21:36 libsysguy    fuzzy?
21:36 cait         libsysguy: do you still use fuzzy?
21:36 rangi        did get that one
21:36 cait         libsysguy: no, I don't think you have to, but someone else might know better :)
21:36 libsysguy    hmm well margo turned it off and said it doesn't seem to be working :-\
21:36 paulnz       not sure if you are getting those it emails still?
21:36 rangi        paulnz: ill go check now
21:35 cait         I think
21:35 paulnz       Could not connect to remote host.  Error Message :  No connection could be made because the target machine actively refused it  Socket Error Code :  10061  Causes :  Check and make sure the connection port is correct, and that that our global outside facing IP ( has TCP access to it.
21:35 cait         libsysguy: act like when you put a little star behind each search term
21:35 paulnz       can you check overdrive - they said its down
21:35 libsysguy    well i guess by what it does i should have said do I need to reindex after I change it
21:35 paulnz       hi rangi
21:35 rangi        hi paulnz
21:34 libsysguy    haha all things fixed
21:34 rangi        this will fix everything
21:34 rangi        libsysguy: http://soundcloud.com/dubstep/disposable-war-pigs
21:34 libsysguy    can anybody tell me what the QueryAutoTruncate syspref does?
21:33 rangi        no worries
21:33 wizzyrea     thank you :)
21:32 rangi        cool
21:32 wizzyrea     yes, makes perfect sense
21:32 rangi        make sense?
21:32 rangi        or group by biblionumber is probably safer (include it in the list of colums to select)
21:31 rangi        limit whatever
21:31 rangi        group by title
21:30 wizzyrea     derp gah
21:30 rangi        select title,author,dateaccessioned,ccode,count(itemnumber) from biblio,items where biblio.biblionumber=items.biblionumber
21:29 wizzyrea     i'll add the recipe to the library in penance
21:29 rangi        right
21:29 wizzyrea     title, author, dateaccessioned, ccode and number of items on each bib for the returned set (I think we can get the limits worked out ourselves, it's the count of items on each bib that's currently stumping me)
21:27 wizzyrea     lol
21:27 rangi        only dumb ones are the ones you ask 7 times on the mailing
21:27 wizzyrea     probably a dumb one
21:27 rangi        ok
21:27 wizzyrea     ok, sql question of the day
21:13 rangi        when it comes back that is :)
21:12 rangi        curatecamp.org/
21:11 chrisdothall xD
21:11 cait         chrisdothall: now you are being mean! :)
21:11 chrisdothall cait: heh, soon it will be 'two years ago'
21:10 wahanui      I LIKE SPACE AND MY WIFE
21:10 sekjal       NateC?
21:10 moodaepo     space_watching++
21:09 cait         chrisdothall: but can't believe it's already 'a year ago'
21:09 rangi        moodaepo: declan and mjgialo suggested i run a curatecamp here .. so watch this space
21:09 cait         chrisdothall: always :)
21:09 moodaepo     What next .se?
21:08 * moodaepo   was just talking about nz & in trips being missed because we aren't involved in koha!
21:08 chrisdothall cait: are you looking for an excuse to visit?
21:07 cait         last year *sigh*
21:07 rangi        we had kohacon here last year :)
21:06 moodaepo     rangi: Well one day we will have to have a OSS ILS summit in Wellington!
21:05 oleonard     Just seems needlessly complex
21:05 * chris_n    is not widely enough versed in js foo to produce a good critique :(
21:04 rangi        moodaepo: unfortunately ive done my dash of north american travel for the near future
21:04 * oleonard   boggles that column config can be set using positive indexes counting from the left or negative indexes counting from the right
21:03 chris_n      and searched often on the forums
21:03 * chris_n    made liberal use of the many examples on the site
21:03 chris_n      oleonard: they are a bit overwhelming at first glance, I agree
21:02 moodaepo     So #koha who are all attending code4lib in Seattle? I heard sekjal will be...looking for more folks so we can have a merry old koha/evergreen summit : )
21:00 oleonard     chris_n: I've been doing some datatables testing, and I must say I'm put off by the obscurity of the config options
21:00 chrisdothall and the people have changed...
21:00 ibeardslee   sure
21:00 chrisdothall It was after my time, but my younger siblings were fans.
20:59 ibeardslee   no .. but I think there are people in here young enough to know them ;)
20:58 wizzyrea     where little = young
20:58 wizzyrea     ibeardslee: you must have little people near you
20:58 wizzyrea     chrisdothall: that is funny I like that
20:57 wizzyrea     LOL <3
20:56 chrisdothall o/*\o
20:56 ibeardslee   http://www.hi-5us.com/ ?
20:56 trea         o/ HIGHFIVE \o
20:55 wizzyrea     o/ HIGHFIVE \o
20:54 * chris_n    knew he was getting old when he began rolling up the sidewalks at 9pm
20:54 chris_n      hehe
20:53 rangi        hah
20:53 trea         lol!
20:53 trea         get off my lawn! pesky kids. :P
20:53 rangi        get off my lawn
20:53 * talljoy    looks for her cane
20:53 chris_n      lol
20:53 talljoy      chris_n guess that makes us the old fogies
20:52 * chris_n    was the same as talljoy
20:51 wizzyrea     whippersnapper!
20:51 * rangi      cracks the whip in his direction
20:51 rangi        yeah chrisdothall is our child labour
20:51 chris_n      and pokes an old thread
20:51 chrisdothall I wont mention how many years that was before me...
20:51 * chris_n    tries wizzyrea's trick
20:46 trea         i was nearly done cookin by jan '78 :D
20:46 ibeardslee   ahh the youth of today
20:46 bg           paul_p and I share the same birthday Jan 9...
20:45 bg           :D
20:45 bg           one year before my time
20:45 * wizzyrea   wasn't either ;)
20:44 cait         hehe nope
20:44 rangi        you wasnt borned
20:44 cait         um
20:44 wizzyrea     jan 1978
20:43 cait         when was the article written?
20:43 cait         hm
20:40 * rangi      was 5
20:39 talljoy      of course...i'm a tad older than you.  was born and nearly double digits at time of that article.
20:39 wizzyrea     mine had a phd in chemistry too >.>
20:39 wizzyrea     !
20:38 talljoy      wizzyrea your dad must have been friends with mine.  lol  mine is a phd in chemical engineering when to grad school in missouri and we built computers for fun in the 80s.
20:37 wizzyrea     !
20:37 rangi        phew fixed it
20:37 Oak          Koha rocks!
20:32 wizzyrea     dirty pool lol
20:32 rangi        you cant say that and leave!
20:30 francharb    ;)
20:30 francharb    australia rocks!
20:30 * francharb  is listening to royal headache!
20:29 rhcl         bye
20:29 francharb    bye all!
20:28 wizzyrea     but only just
20:28 wizzyrea     (do note I wasn't born yet when that article came out)
20:27 wizzyrea     my grandpa was from St. jo
20:26 rhcl         (I live in St. Joe)
20:26 wizzyrea     whoa! rhcl!
20:26 wizzyrea     St Jo news-press
20:26 rhcl         looks like St. Joseph news - press
20:26 oleonard     What paper was that wizzyrea?
20:24 rhcl         My mother attended there.
20:24 Oak          it's great actually.
20:24 wizzyrea     *nod*
20:24 rhcl         tarkio Missouri????? wow
20:24 Oak          oh yes! much better
20:23 chris_n      much
20:23 wizzyrea     is that better?
20:23 wizzyrea     https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/380348_10150456133309468_559044467_10336048_6841769_n.jpg
20:23 * Oak        reopens the tab
20:22 chris_n      neat
20:22 ibeardslee   so long ago
20:22 wizzyrea     that's my mom's handwriting at the top
20:22 rhcl         I'm waiting for somebody else to ask wizzyrea "for real?"
20:22 wizzyrea     ya
20:22 maximep      1978?
20:22 Oak          oh nice
20:22 maximep      wow cool
20:22 Oak          see it yes. read it, no.
20:21 wizzyrea     that's mah daddy, and the first computer I poked at
20:21 chris_n      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TI-990
20:21 wizzyrea     can you see this? https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s320x320/380348_10150456133309468_559044467_10336048_6841769_n.jpg
20:21 wizzyrea     woot!
20:21 wahanui      signing off is a great idea!
20:21 rangi        signing off
20:21 rangi        wizzyrea: patch looks fine to me
20:21 wizzyrea     check this out
20:21 wizzyrea     ok ok
20:21 rhcl         actually my 1st was a TI99/4A  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Instruments_TI-99/4A
20:20 chris_n      all machine code programing :P
20:20 Oak          my first was an AMD k6-2, 500 MHz
20:20 chris_n      maximep: my first was a home-built based around a TI-990 processor running what was called "TI-BUG Monitor"
20:20 rangi        zx-81 was my first computer
20:20 cait         386?
20:19 * chris_n    actually owned a PC-2 once as well
20:19 rhcl         Amiga!
20:19 maximep      not to make u feel old hehe
20:19 maximep      :p
20:19 maximep      my first computer was an amd athlon 1.2 ghz
20:18 chris_n      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRS-80
20:18 maximep      1977. oh.
20:18 * maximep    doesn't even know what is a TRS-80
20:17 chris_n      stupid zebra
20:15 * wizzyrea   had a TRS-80
20:15 chris_n      opps... giving away my age
20:15 * chris_n    associates peek and poke with TRS-80
20:15 wizzyrea     ok ok fine.
20:14 wizzyrea     oops.
20:14 * chris_n    made the mistake of installing the 'koha' package rather than the 'koha-common' package :(
20:14 wizzyrea     POKE
20:14 wizzyrea     right, but I want it on demand lol
20:14 oleonard     ...and activates a buzzer under someone's chair
20:14 rangi        needs signoff does it already
20:13 wizzyrea     that would be amazing..
20:13 wizzyrea     that sends a message to IRC!
20:13 chris_n      maybe we need a "poke" button in bugzilla :)
20:12 rangi        looking now
20:12 rangi        :)
20:12 wizzyrea     :P
20:12 * wizzyrea   issues another poke for a signoff on 6323
20:07 wizzyrea     the download page on the website needs to be updated to do the same
20:07 wizzyrea     before doing a manual install.
20:06 wizzyrea     both of them need to advise to use packages
20:06 * oleonard   worries that updates to INSTALL.debian and INSTALL.ubuntu are not made concurrently when they should be
20:05 wizzyrea     LOL
20:05 oleonard     Or maybe "OK\nFine, whatever."
20:05 wizzyrea     rangi++ that is helpful knowledge.
20:04 wizzyrea     (it's clearer this way
20:04 wizzyrea     (which I'm ok with)
20:04 wizzyrea     :)
20:04 wizzyrea     and he was like "meh no"
20:04 wizzyrea     I t hink I did that to make the buttons the same size
20:04 wizzyrea     owen likes it with "try again with a different barcode"
20:04 wizzyrea     lol
20:04 cait         "try again" :P
20:04 wizzyrea     :)
20:04 cait         we could relable
20:03 wizzyrea     totally fair, is why I asked.
20:03 oleonard     maybe some, but my sense of "Gawd do you know what we'd have to go through to make them the same?" overrides it
20:03 wizzyrea     *this
20:03 wizzyrea     oleonard does thsi upset your sense of order: http://screencast.com/t/j1hWk5JGSW
20:02 rangi        lucid is the LTS release
20:02 rangi        its supposed to be for lucid the other one should be oneric
20:02 oleonard     What is the purpose of the separate INSTALL.ubuntu.lucid file?
19:59 rangi        :-)
19:59 wizzyrea     ^.^ that's a happy scrunchie face
19:59 wizzyrea     lawdie.
19:59 wizzyrea     rangi++ that works and is so much easier >.<
19:56 rangi        yeah, thats a pretty silly idea
19:56 oleonard     INSTALL.ubuntu has the user rebuilding zebra before running the web installer
19:55 cait         oleonard: sense_of_order++ :)
19:55 rangi        sometimes yes
19:54 * oleonard   wonders if INSTALL.debian and INSTALL.ubuntu really must be different
19:50 rangi        but not a requirement of TT
19:50 rangi        well picking a consistent one is a sane thing to do
19:49 oleonard     I noticed that recently someone added circ-menu.tt alongside circ-menu.inc, which disturbed my sense of order
19:48 rangi        if you wanted
19:48 rangi        [% INCLUDE 'doc-head-close.what_this_is_just_stupid' %]
19:48 rangi        that could be
19:48 rangi        [% INCLUDE 'doc-head-close.inc' %]
19:47 rangi        sorry full filename
19:47 rangi        you give it hte full path
19:47 rangi        nope
19:47 oleonard     Does the extension of a file in includes not matter?
19:46 cait         heh
19:46 rangi        SPEED!
19:46 rangi        which pulls them from the cache if possible and only processes if not
19:46 rangi        [% CACHE.INC %]
19:46 rangi        we switch those to
19:46 rangi        then down the track
19:45 rangi        same idea
19:45 wizzyrea     ooo snap
19:45 rangi        you can make a new .tt file in the includes and [% INCLUDE %] it
19:45 rangi        and if its used outside the file
19:45 cait         rangi++
19:44 rangi        but block is hella cool
19:44 wizzyrea     *nod* will check
19:44 rangi        to figure out if you want process or include
19:44 rangi        is probably good too
19:44 rangi        http://template-toolkit.org/docs/manual/Directives.html#section_PROCESS
19:44 rangi        and
19:44 rangi        http://template-toolkit.org/docs/manual/Directives.html#section_INCLUDE
19:44 rangi        sorry
19:44 rangi        http://template-toolkit.org/docs/manual/Directives.html#section_BLOCK
19:44 rangi        reading this
19:44 rangi        http://template-toolkit.org/docs/manual/Directives.html#section_BLOCK
19:44 * libsysguy  still flings poo
19:43 wizzyrea     I don't even fling poo anymore!
19:43 rangi        yay!
19:43 * wizzyrea   is a teachable monkey
19:43 rangi        but thats the gist of it
19:43 rangi        i probably typoed
19:43 rangi        :)
19:43 wizzyrea     gimme a sec
19:42 wizzyrea     oooo
19:42 rangi        [% include new_button %]
19:42 rangi        so in the 3 places you do
19:42 rangi        at the end of the file probably
19:41 rangi        then
19:41 rangi        [% end %]
19:41 wizzyrea     oh snizzle
19:41 rangi        stick that stuff in
19:41 rangi        [% block new_button %]
19:41 wizzyrea     (I wondered about that, actually)
19:41 wizzyrea     yes
19:41 wahanui      that is good
19:41 wizzyrea     what's that
19:41 rangi        ?
19:41 rangi        see how that block is repeated 3 times
19:41 rangi        you know what you could have done
19:40 rangi        i get a button to try again?
19:40 rangi        if it fails
19:40 rangi        i try to attach an item
19:40 rangi        so the idea
19:39 rangi        (not really)
19:39 * wizzyrea   sobs
19:39 * rangi      fails it
19:39 * wizzyrea   gives herself a stern face
19:39 rangi        what!
19:39 wizzyrea     aaand I neglected a test plan.
19:37 wizzyrea     it's eezzz
19:37 rangi        looking now
19:37 rangi        i have a few mins
19:37 wizzyrea     please :)
19:37 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6323 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, wizzyrea, ASSIGNED , Attach/move items -- error handling cleanup
19:37 * wizzyrea   pokes anybody looking for an easy signoff - bug 6323
19:34 wizzyrea     I love you.
19:34 wizzyrea     thanks to whoever proposed only sending original patches to the list.
19:21 libsysguy    hehe
19:18 wizzyrea     (that's what she said)
19:18 cait         lol
19:18 libsysguy    i guess we have to keep the IRC PG
19:18 libsysguy    haha ja ja ja
19:18 wizzyrea     i will leave it to your imagination.
19:18 * wizzyrea   refrains from saying anything terribly naughty about swedes and your deck.
19:15 libsysguy    fast and efficient
19:15 libsysguy    hehe i like to give service like i want it
19:14 wizzyrea     you are fast :)
19:14 wizzyrea     okies
19:14 wizzyrea     oh snaps
19:14 libsysguy    wizzyrea: merged and pushed
19:13 libsysguy    the more testing the better IMO
19:13 libsysguy    i think it would help sekjal and I both
19:12 wizzyrea     dk if that would help you or not
19:12 libsysguy    yeah i can merge and push if you want to check it out
19:12 libsysguy    I know there have been some tt changes
19:12 * wizzyrea   thought to run through the NEKLS testing protocols on it to make sure the normal stuff works
19:12 libsysguy    whenever that was
19:12 libsysguy    not since my last mention of merge
19:12 libsysguy    mostly changing a lot of the namespace from C4::Dates to Koha::Calendar
19:12 wizzyrea     libsysguy: you have merged hourly recently?
19:11 libsysguy    well I was just thinking that hourly changes a lot with Dates
19:11 cait         but you meant ian... sorry, bit distracted
19:11 cait         libsysguy: I think finishing one big project before the ohter is ok
19:10 libsysguy    do you agree that it would be a good idea to wait on notifications until hourly gets pushed
19:09 libsysguy    haha sekjal
19:06 cait         heh
19:06 sekjal       (actually, took a bus to NYC...)
19:05 sekjal       such the jet-setting life I've got here...
19:05 sekjal       then NYC
19:05 sekjal       India
19:05 sekjal       sorry, no progress on hourly testing these last couple weeks
19:05 wahanui      i heard libsysguy was Koha's hottest developer or partying with swedes on his deck
19:05 sekjal       hey, libsysguy
18:59 rangi        back
18:50 rangi        my stop bbiab
18:46 libsysguy    cron ftw
18:46 libsysguy    i just wrote a quick little hack to get around the limit on sending
18:46 libsysguy    haha well there is no right answer
18:45 cait         what's the right answer?
18:45 cait         not yet?
18:45 cait         um no?
18:45 libsysguy    yayy...are you using my custom notifications script to send emails :p
18:44 cait         libsysguy: and my laptop is set up now to send mails :)
18:44 cait         libsysguy: it's not that bad
18:43 libsysguy    druthb i used to live about 2 hours from where you are now
18:42 cait         heh
18:42 * libsysguy  runs and hides
18:42 * libsysguy  is a little slow today
18:42 cait         into the darkest places of bugzilla :)
18:41 libsysguy    go in where cait?
18:40 cait         and there are some things wiating for sign-of
18:40 cait         I found some new things too
18:40 cait         not new ideas, but I want to go in there and check the existing bugs
18:40 libsysguy    cait have you had any new ideas about notices
18:39 libsysguy    druthb knows about my "special" situation :-\
18:39 cait         so many new and shiny things I almost forgot about
18:39 druthb       (one of the other great blessings is sitting and chomping on tasty pizza with them at lunch break....)
18:38 cait         and was smiling all the time
18:38 cait         I have been configuring my new 3.6 test installation
18:38 * libsysguy  thinks he should be doing Koha training then :p
18:38 cait         heh
18:38 druthb       one of the great blessings of doing Koha training is seeing happy faces when they see how much better Koha is than their current stinky system.
18:37 * libsysguy  goes to poke around
18:37 * druthb     waves down the table at edveal.
18:36 druthb       http://www.bethelu.edu
18:36 druthb       TN
18:36 libsysguy    Bethel in MN?
18:36 rangi        ata marie bethel u
18:35 cait         libsysguy: that's ok, just let me know :)
18:35 libsysguy    Hi Bethel U
18:35 cait         Hallo Bethel University :)
18:35 libsysguy    I would like to cait...but I really want to get hourly pushed before we start any work on it
18:35 cait         libsysguy: should we organize another meeting about notices?
18:35 druthb       hi, #koha!  Say hello to the staff at Bethel University again...got the whole team today.  :)
18:35 cait         hi druthb :)
18:34 * libsysguy  waives at druthb
18:34 libsysguy    hi cait :)
18:34 cait         hi libsysguy :)
18:34 libsysguy    sekjal any word on hourly testing?
18:34 wahanui      sekjal was last seen on #koha 2 hours, 48 minutes and 34 seconds ago, saying: thanks, wizzyrea! [Thu Nov 17 15:43:50 2011]
18:34 libsysguy    seen sekjal
18:33 libsysguy    hey #Koha :)
18:33 * cait       waves
18:33 * rangi      is on the bus
18:28 cait         back
18:20 cait         bbiab
18:08 cait         bya magnuse :)
18:08 magnuse      later!
18:08 cait         does the library hide damaged or lost books?
18:08 cait         so it's an on order item?
18:07 maximep      just received it
18:07 maximep      well it's not available yet
18:07 cait         you could hide the item totally
18:07 cait         if something is not available for reference - why have it in the catalog?
18:07 cait         but
18:06 cait         it's been like that in the xslt as long as I can think
18:06 cait         no, not new
18:06 maximep      so i guess it's something new
18:05 maximep      well without xslt it just says there's no copies
18:05 cait         hm
18:05 cait         ah
18:05 cait         the system is right
18:05 cait         reference means just that
18:02 jcamins      maximep: check it out?
18:01 maximep      when using xslt it says "Copies available for reference" even if my item is notforloan. How do I set that it's also not available for reference?
17:57 cait         ah
17:57 magnuse      luckily, you have to be a norwegian company to have .no...
17:56 rhcl         you know, I used to think Stephen had some good thoughts. Haven't been following him for a long time though. Nice to see he has a post on something different for a change.
17:55 cait         hm I am thinking about the .de
17:53 mtj          (...to be transfered to HLT quite soon-ish)
17:53 rangi        sweet
17:52 mtj          https://onlydomains.secure-admin.com/whois/zone/koha-community_org_nz
17:52 mtj          ah, and speaking of domaiNZzz....
17:51 rangi        yeah it was bout 15 hours ago at least
17:51 cait         not lately
17:51 * jcamins    returns to frantically preparing a brochure for his talk tonight.
17:51 cait         jcamins: was this morning
17:51 * magnuse    neither
17:50 jcamins      Eh. It'll arrive eventually.
17:50 jcamins      Hm. Don't see what we're talking about.
17:50 oleonard     Hah, I forgot that Josh was quoted as a defender of Open Source in that article. How times changed.
17:49 jcamins      Apparently there's been a lot of mail in the last forty-five minutes.
17:49 * jcamins    has been frantically preparing a brochure for this evening.
17:48 rangi        see the mail to the mailing lists jcamins
17:48 mtj          a nice summary about the FUD incident here -> http://www.libraryjournal.com/article/CA6704622.html
17:48 jcamins      Huh?
17:47 cait         did they get other countries too?
17:47 wizzyrea     ya, that's wicked.
17:47 cait         :)
17:46 rangi        in better news, cool idea about the indian domains eh, came outta kohacon
17:44 rangi        it is his blog, but still .. dick move
17:44 rangi        then posts it and his response at the same time
17:44 cait         boo
17:44 rangi        he never lets a comment stand either, leaves it in moderation
17:44 cait         obo
17:44 cait         the comments don't open for me
17:44 wizzyrea     <eyeroll>
17:44 wizzyrea     good job, A+
17:44 rangi        yes
17:44 wizzyrea     "only an idiot would support that" way to belittle people.
17:44 cait         buy
17:44 cait         wizzyrea: google it :) lots of hits. I by mine in a fair trade shop here
17:43 * Oak        says hi
17:42 cait         not much of a secret :)
17:42 * wizzyrea   wants to know the secret of the "chocolate tea
17:42 cait         yumyumyum
17:42 cait         chocolate yogi tea
17:42 cait         yep
17:42 wizzyrea     chocolate tea?
17:42 wahanui      :)
17:42 cait         wahanui botsnack chocolate tea
17:42 rangi        but i doubt it
17:41 rangi        maybe finally ppl will stop listening to him
17:41 wahanui      comments are turned on
17:41 cait         oh comments
17:41 rangi        (the comments)
17:41 rangi        exactly what he did with the OSS FUD
17:41 cait         hm?
17:41 rangi        typical
17:41 rangi        yep
17:41 mtj          ... and a classic response, and follow-up too
17:40 mtj          ah cheers chris, thats classic
17:37 * wizzyrea   sighs heavily
17:37 rangi        we have another gem
17:37 rangi        from the man who brought you the whitepaper on OSS ILS
17:37 wizzyrea     ^ that link is wtf.
17:37 cait         hi mtj :)
17:37 rangi        http://stephenslighthouse.com/2011/11/17/sexiest-librarian-alive/
17:37 rangi        also
17:36 rangi        welcome home
17:36 rangi        heya mtj
17:36 * mtj        waves from nz
17:36 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7084 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, wizzyrea, ASSIGNED , New Tag on results display missing results_summary class, causing display inconsistency
17:36 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7079 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED , Default values for German system preferences (web installer)
17:36 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6916 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, ASSIGNED , Selecting the acq date of an item should take you to the invoice page for it
17:36 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6321 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, ASSIGNED , Add a 1/4 month frequency
17:36 jenkins_koha * lrea: Bug 7084 - Re-arranging results_summary for tags so that it applies where it is supposed to
17:36 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7079: [SIGNED-OFF] Default values for German system preferences
17:36 mtj          morena #Koha
17:36 jenkins_koha * frederick.capovilla: Make all strings translatable in marc21_field_007.tt
17:36 jenkins_koha * robin: Bug 6916 - item's acq date now takes you to its invoice
17:36 jenkins_koha * f.demians: Bug 6321 Add a 1/4 months frequency
17:36 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #525: STILL UNSTABLE in 48 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/525/
17:35 NCARLibrary  only the ones that successfully imported.
17:34 wizzyrea     you get that when you search any patron or only the ones that you imported?
17:34 cait         when will you arrive?
17:34 cait         magnuse: :)
17:33 NCARLibrary  Thanks for looking.
17:32 NCARLibrary  okay, well, i'll send an email to galen and see what he thinks.
17:30 wizzyrea     I don't see anything particularly out of the ordinary - i'm not familiar with how the borrower attributes are defined so I'm not sure about the syntax there
17:29 magnuse      the ordinary train was delayed, so i'm on the faster but more expensive airport train
17:28 magnuse      yup
17:27 cait         all going as planned so far?
17:27 cait         hi magnuse :)
17:27 * magnuse    waves from the train
17:26 * cait       wonders if rhcl knows about her secred identity
17:26 * wizzyrea   was not looking sorry ^.^ will look now
17:26 cait         hi rangi, hi rhcl :)
17:25 rangi        hi cait, hi all
17:25 rhcl         morning #cait
17:21 cait         good evening #koha
17:14 NCARLibrary  did that come through okay, wiz?
17:11 oleonard     I wonder why some things listed in debian.packages would not get installed the first time around
17:09 NCARLibrary  http://paste.koha-community.org/123
17:05 NCARLibrary  ok
17:05 wizzyrea     you can probably just paste the entire contents into a pastebin, once it's anonymized
17:05 NCARLibrary  should i anonymize and share the file w/you?
17:03 wizzyrea     :)
17:03 wizzyrea     uh, anonymized please
17:02 NCARLibrary  (standby)
17:02 wizzyrea     hm what did your import file look like?
17:02 NCARLibrary  "Can't use an undefined value as a HASH reference at /var/koha/sites/ucar/dev/members/member.pl line 130."
17:01 NCARLibrary  some DID load, but when i search on those names in Patron search, I get this...
17:01 NCARLibrary  imported a test file with 6 patrons.  some were already in there and so did not load (good!).
17:01 wizzyrea     what's the error
17:00 NCARLibrary  I'm messing around with Patron Import tool.
17:00 wizzyrea     shoot
17:00 NCARLibrary  I'm getting a nasty "Software error"...
16:59 NCARLibrary  hi!
16:56 kf           hi NCARLibrary and bye #koha :)
16:56 wizzyrea     hi NCARLibrary
16:53 kf           might be
16:52 rhcl         is jcamins working on a translation for Old Church Slavonic?
16:51 * kf         blushes
16:50 wizzyrea     kf++ for unending work on translations
16:50 wizzyrea     right :)
16:49 kf           the - 'oh needs refining' things :)
16:49 kf           only tirening
16:49 kf           but most of it easy to fix
16:49 kf           wizzyrea: for me that is mostly translation :)
16:47 jenkins_koha Starting build 525 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #491 29 j ago)
16:47 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7221 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, joy, ASSIGNED , DelBiblio POD is incorrect
16:47 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: updating history.txt : 3.6.0 & 3.4.6 & KohaCon11 & Joy Nelson 160th
16:47 jenkins_koha * joy: Bug 7221: C4/Biblio.pm documentation is incorrect.
16:47 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #524: STILL UNSTABLE in 49 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/524/
16:47 wizzyrea     sort of thing
16:47 wizzyrea     just the usual "oh this could be refined"
16:47 wizzyrea     all of the major stuff works just fine
16:47 wizzyrea     we haven't found anything in testing
16:47 kf           wizzyrea: perhaps you can share your findings? or doing everything on bugzilla anyway?
16:46 wizzyrea     but we're not going that far >.>
16:46 wizzyrea     *nod*
16:46 kf           ian has uploaded a patch for it today
16:46 wizzyrea     you can't leave it blank
16:46 wizzyrea     we require it
16:46 kf           it will put in something werid
16:46 kf           if you don't fill it out
16:46 kf           afaik
16:46 kf           yep
16:46 kf           hm it doesn't break thing
16:46 wizzyrea     it's only if the birthdate is null?
16:46 * wizzyrea   ponders
16:46 wizzyrea     I wonder if that would be enough to stop our 3.6 update
16:46 kf           so far nothing else
16:46 kf           and the DUE notices show unknown for me - bug in german sql files
16:46 wizzyrea     *nod* ohhhh that's a good point
16:45 wizzyrea     3.6.1 will probably be supergood.
16:45 kf           I found the birth date issue
16:45 kf           we have a smaller library that I want to start on 3.6
16:45 kf           hope to go there soon with our new libraries
16:45 kf           I have been configuring our test database for 3.6 today :)
16:45 wizzyrea     wow is right ;)
16:45 kf           oh wow
16:45 wizzyrea     3.5.11, going to 3.6.0 this weekend
16:44 kf           wizzyrea: which version is nekls on right now?
16:44 kf           wizzyrea++
16:44 wizzyrea     all right... back to my testing
16:44 huginn       kf: I've exhausted my database of quotes
16:44 kf           huginn: you are mean
16:43 huginn       kf: The outlook is poor.
16:43 kf           @eightball
16:43 huginn       kf: You're kidding, right?
16:43 kf           @eightball
16:43 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7079 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED , Default values for German system preferences (web installer)
16:43 kf           should I mark bug 7079 as bug?
16:43 kf           hmm.
16:43 kf           and trying to finish my learning perl book finally
16:42 wizzyrea     always good to have a short lazy time just after a major release, imo.
16:42 kf           I have been lazy lately
16:42 kf           wizzyrea: oh thx
16:41 kf           hmmm
16:41 wizzyrea     kf++ for underappreciated hard work
16:40 wizzyrea     thank you but that was really a trivial one. I have to do a dance every time I get a patch in ^.^
16:40 kf           wizzyrea++ :)
16:36 wizzyrea     \o\  /o/  \o\ /o/
16:35 wizzyrea     YAY
16:35 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7084 - Re-arranging results_summary for tags so that it applies where it is suppo... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1d42be9e7670a3489be681494a8b782c855d52fb>
16:28 vfernandes   yes i have... let me see
16:25 maximep      do have have access to the db to look at action_logs and see if there's stuff from the periodicals module ?
16:24 trea         wizzyrea++. just sayin'
16:24 vfernandes   when adding a new subscription and receive serials it should log
16:24 maximep      i'm not really good at the helping others it seems haha
16:23 maximep      hmmmm
16:23 vfernandes   yes...
16:22 maximep      is the preference SUbscriptionLog enabled ?
16:19 vfernandes   then choose Serial
16:18 vfernandes   browse system logs in the tools
16:17 maximep      sorry, but what page is logs of periodicals?
16:15 vfernandes   no one?
16:15 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7079: [SIGNED-OFF] Default values for German system preferences <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c1d824deaa65f0a64071e6925ae2238beb0a0912> / Make all strings translatable in marc21_field_007.tt <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8fde30912ec89c8855a7b4d468f5e48e7b886e85> / Bug 6916 - item's acq date now takes you to its invoice <http://git.koha-community.org/g
16:07 vfernandes   what we should see consulting logs of periodicals? mine is showing nothing :/
16:07 vfernandes   hi ppl
16:07 oleonard     Hi mib_pze7v0 , you have an unusual name
16:06 mib_pze7v0   hi people :)
16:05 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6321 Add a 1/4 months frequency <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bada2e4c36f3e6ec163e5f53e4e4c9d1c9f0dd6f>
16:00 maximep      correction, we seem to use ModPerl::PerlRunPrefork
15:57 jenkins_koha Starting build 524 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #491 29 j ago)
15:55 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: updating history.txt : 3.6.0 & 3.4.6 & KohaCon11 & Joy Nelson 160th <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2216cd4371a72d95491dc51455d1ae7a6c783147> / Bug 7221: C4/Biblio.pm documentation is incorrect. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1d0192b85ceabca3dbb0add7df218a4d768ea104>
15:51 kf           sekjal: I only mentioned yourname in hope that you and maximep can start talking about it :)
15:48 wizzyrea     i'm also looking at 2830
15:48 maximep      it's working fine for us on the opac, in production, but were not using xslt and only have 1 language enabled
15:45 sekjal       thanks, wizzyrea!
15:45 sekjal       to get the faster, more persistent module, though, will require some work
15:45 wizzyrea     i'll try to get at 7134
15:45 sekjal       using ModPerl::PerlRun, I can get a pretty good performance boost without needing to alter any of Koha's code
15:44 sekjal       kf:  yes, i've been playing with mod_perl
15:43 huginn       New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7134] patron records getting funny birthdays <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7134>
15:31 kf           word--
15:31 wizzyrea     just the guarantee record
15:31 wizzyrea     but the child patron isn't duplicated
15:30 kf           oh
15:30 wizzyrea     it duplicates the guarantee record
15:30 wizzyrea     and koha says "I think there is a dupe here" and you resubmit the child form
15:30 wizzyrea     hm, this is a very trivial thing - but if you are adding a guaranteed child to an adult
15:28 wizzyrea     it wouldn't hurt to slap it up on the wiki
15:28 kf           perhaps worth to discuss it on a meeting sometime
15:28 kf           rangi and I think sekjal
15:28 maximep      i guess we could share our config if anyone would like to test it
15:28 kf           I think several people have been experimenting with mod_perl
15:25 maximep      only sysadmin configs
15:25 maximep      we have no work on that :S
15:25 wizzyrea     good thing you're keeping all of your work on that to yourself.
15:24 maximep      intranet is completly unusable with it
15:24 maximep      were using it for the opac only
15:24 jcamins      maximep: you're using mod_perl? I thought Koha still had too many leaks for mod_perl.
15:24 maximep      probably because were using mod_perl
15:23 rhcl         talking about a koha connector for fullfilment on the fullfilment channel right now
15:23 maximep      i seem to have bugs with that
15:23 wizzyrea     well also, there's a certain delay between when you change something and it gets reflected in the index
15:23 rhcl         hey, this is cool: "Ducks Unlimited Canada Now Live On Koha"  http://www.esilibrary.com/esi/newsitem.php?id=2176  - just now noticed it
15:23 maximep      so it seems it's only parsing 1 time for pages
15:22 maximep      yeah, looking at the code the variable stylesheet of XSLTParse4Display is global
15:22 wahanui      jcamins: I forgot xslt caching
15:22 jcamins      wahanui: forget XSLT caching
15:22 maximep      haha
15:22 oleonard     wahanui's memory is impeccable.
15:22 wahanui      somebody said XSLT caching was killing me :/
15:22 jcamins      maximep: XSLT caching?
15:21 maximep      xslt caching is killing me :/
15:20 wizzyrea     makes sense to me anyway
15:20 wizzyrea     available for reference is probably what you want it to say
15:20 wizzyrea     would be the hard part lol
15:20 wizzyrea     it's probably a bug that it's different, but getting people to agree on what it should say
15:20 maximep      hmmm right, it says available for reference now
15:18 wizzyrea     you just can't check it out
15:18 wizzyrea     well, it *is* available
15:15 maximep      is that a bug that the behavior is different?
15:15 maximep      with XSLT off it says No items available
15:14 maximep      hey guys, when I do a search in the OPAC for something that has only 1 item and it's notforloan, with XSLT it says copies available
15:10 oleonard     They should get a complimentary installation
15:10 * oleonard   wonders how a library called "Evergreen Community Library" can not be on Evergreen. http://www.librarytechnology.org/lwc-displaylibrary.pl?RC=22861
15:09 rhcl_away    The evergreen channel is pretty busy
15:09 wizzyrea     kansas* regional koha consortia
15:09 wizzyrea     NEKLS is supposedly going to be involved with it somehow (as we're the biggest of the regional koha consortia
15:08 wizzyrea     for fulfillment? I haven't heard a whole lot about it no
15:08 huginn       wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.  Quote #166 added.
15:08 wizzyrea     @quote add jcamins: this is IRC. There's a several decade long tradition of lurking.
15:08 oleonard     Heard anything about the process wizzyrea?
15:07 wizzyrea     kansas is going to be testing fulfillment too
15:05 huginn       chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 12.4�C (10:02 AM EST on November 17, 2011). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 9.0�C. Pressure: 29.47 in 997.9 hPa (Steady).
15:05 chris_n      @wunder 28334
15:04 jcamins      oleonard: this is IRC. There's a several decade tradition of lurking. ;)
15:03 oleonard     ...kinda like in here...
14:42 oleonard     ...but everyone's just lurking
14:42 * oleonard   sees bshum, moodaepo, and phasefx in the #fulfillment channel on freenode
14:39 magnuse      got a plane to catch - see ya's!
14:38 magnuse      "how hard can it be?" ;-)
14:38 magnuse      shouldn't be too hard to make that real
14:37 kf           sounds like a good idea
14:37 magnuse      get a little demo, get answers to koha-related questions, perhaps...
14:37 magnuse      i was talking to someone a while ago about maybe having a live irc qa session with someone close to the fullfillment development...
14:35 kf           oleonard++ :)
14:35 kf           lol
14:32 jcamins      kf: good morning.
14:32 * oleonard   is just a poor planner all around
14:32 jcamins      oleonard: silly oleonard! :)
14:30 oleonard     Oh no, new Twilight saga movie premieres tonight and I'm out of sparkles!
14:29 kf           and hi jcamins :)
14:27 oleonard     first Koha public library that is
14:27 oleonard     Far be it from me to think that the first public library in Ohio should be in on testing an open source ILL system that is supposed to connect to Koha
14:26 jcamins      Next you'll be telling us that library patrons should be able to easily get books from other libraries in the state!
14:26 oleonard     I know, where's my spirit of fun and surprise?
14:26 jcamins_away oleonard: testing? Why would you want that?
14:24 oleonard     ...but I hate being in the dark about the testing process
14:23 oleonard     We're dealing with annoying bugs in the current state-wide ILL system and are told that they'll either upgrade VDX or switch to FulfILLment in January
14:21 kf           and hi oleonard and sekjal :)
14:21 kf           hey :)
14:20 JesseM       Hey kf!
14:20 * oleonard   supposes since Equinox is a Koha provider they have their own resources for testing
14:19 sekjal       morning, oleonard.  no, not at this time
14:18 oleonard     sekjal, NateC, etc: Is ByWater involved in FulfILLment testing?
13:41 kf           hi JesseM :)
13:31 JesseM       Morning #Koha
13:21 oleonard     Hello #koha too!
13:18 NateC        Hello #koha!
11:46 huginn       kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 3.2�C (12:40 PM CET on November 17, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Windchill: 3.0�C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027.0 hPa (Rising).
11:46 kf           @wunder Konstanz
10:31 huginn       magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 8.0�C (11:20 AM CET on November 17, 2011). Conditions: Rain Showers. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Windchill: 5.0�C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady).
10:31 magnuse      @wunder boo
10:11 huginn       kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 3.0�C (11:00 AM CET on November 17, 2011). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 1.0�C. Pressure: 30.35 in 1028 hPa (Rising).
10:11 kf           @wunder Konstanz
09:59 Schwitzd     ok
09:56 kf           I think if there is no fine, it produces this warning
09:56 kf           you can output the fine for an item in the notice
09:55 kf           I think it's something we should fix... but you can ingore it
09:55 Schwitzd     oky :)
09:55 kf           I always get that
09:55 kf           yes
09:55 kf           ah
09:52 Schwitzd     but is working
09:51 magnuse      kf++
09:50 Schwitzd     now I have this message when I start the script
09:50 Schwitzd     kf: Use of uninitialized value $fine in string at /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/overdue_notices.pl line 673.
09:49 rangi        kf++
09:47 kf           you are welcome .)
09:47 Schwitzd     kf: thanks a lot for your help!
09:45 kf           :)
09:44 Schwitzd     :)
09:44 Schwitzd     is a little company library
09:44 Schwitzd     but I don't think is my case
09:44 Schwitzd     ok
09:44 kf           we have a bug open for that, but sadly it didn't make it in yet
09:44 kf           it will only look at the oldest due date
09:44 kf           if you have more than one book overdue for the patron
09:43 kf           another thing that is useful to know:
09:43 kf           very cool :)
09:43 kf           yay!
09:43 Schwitzd     is working!!!
09:43 Schwitzd     \o/
09:41 kf           delay = 1, date_due yesterday, overdue_notice with -t
09:41 kf           hm. or no, that should work
09:40 wahanui      okay, kf.
09:40 kf           ah, there is also another factor
09:35 Schwitzd     (is a test enviroment) :P
09:34 Schwitzd     i set the duedate yesterday for this book
09:34 Schwitzd     wait I want to do a test
09:33 kf           and you need a due notice... sorry, I missed that before :(
09:33 kf           and that is controlled by the enhmessaging system preference and the preferences set in the patron's account
09:33 kf           what you can send out now is a due notice
09:33 kf           first notice you can send out is tomorrow
09:33 kf           yeah, not overdue at all then
09:33 kf           ah
09:32 Schwitzd     the duedate for the book is 17.11 (today)
09:32 Schwitzd     kf: what I don't have understood is
09:29 kf           with the configuration you use right now
09:29 kf           for generating a notice
09:29 kf           because your overdue doesn't match the criteria
09:28 kf           to see the different options available
09:28 kf           I mean look at the source code for the job
09:28 Schwitzd     but I don't now why the mail is not generated :S
09:28 Schwitzd     also in one book
09:28 Schwitzd     I read the documentation
09:27 kf           most information is in there
09:27 kf           and I recommend studying the documention for the cronjob :)
09:27 kf           when using -t it will only go out on the exact date
09:27 Schwitzd     http://imageshack.us/f/254/issues.png/
09:27 kf           to see what I mean
09:27 kf           try setting your third to 21
09:27 kf           it's too overdue
09:27 kf           no notice will be generated
09:27 kf           when your item is 21 days overdue, and your delays are 1 3 5
09:26 Schwitzd     kf: http://imageshack.us/f/39/overdue.png/
09:21 Schwitzd     :)
09:21 kf           ah, I am from Konstanz
09:20 Schwitzd     south of switzerland tessin
09:20 Schwitzd     no :)
09:20 kf           Sprichst du deutsch?
09:20 kf           ah
09:20 Schwitzd     Switzerland
09:19 kf           I was wondering abut your nick - where are you located?
09:18 Schwitzd     I give you some print screen
09:16 kf           using other options
09:16 kf           you can do that too, but without -t then
09:16 kf           not in the range of days
09:16 kf           it's only sending out notices on the exact day
09:16 kf           you have to have one that has delay  21
09:16 kf           and the thing is 21 days overdue
09:15 kf           if you use notice triggers
09:15 kf           ah
09:15 kf           right
09:15 kf           message_queue
09:15 Schwitzd     message_queue table
09:15 Schwitzd     on the db
09:14 kf           and where are you from Schwitzd?
09:14 kf           where do you check if the notice was generated?
09:14 kf           altough the script is doing too many things
09:14 kf           it's pretty good documented
09:13 kf           try -h to see the options
09:13 kf           I think there is
09:12 Schwitzd     the is a verbose mode?
09:12 Schwitzd     no output
09:12 kf           try starting with -t
09:12 kf           ok
09:12 Schwitzd     yes
09:12 kf           and notice triggers?
09:12 Schwitzd     yes
09:11 kf           do you have a notice configured?
09:11 kf           you have tot ell it what to do
09:11 kf           yeah
09:11 Schwitzd     and no parameters
09:11 Schwitzd     the overdue is 21 days
09:11 Schwitzd     nothing
09:10 kf           which parameters are you using for your overdue_notices pl?
09:10 kf           how long is it overdue?
09:07 Schwitzd     but the overdue_notices.pl don't generate the mail
09:07 Schwitzd     I have a overdue for one one user
09:07 Schwitzd     now my problem is the email is not generated...
09:07 Schwitzd     kf: oky
09:03 francharb    hi kf, magnuse !
09:03 magnuse      hiya francharb
09:00 kf           hi francharb
09:00 francharb    morning #koha
08:47 magnuse      kia ora paul_p
08:45 kf           good morning Paul :)
08:45 paul_p       hello everybody & good morning European ppl !
08:44 kf           yes
08:43 Schwitzd     is this one overdue_notices.pl, right?
08:41 kf           it prepares the mails, process_message_queue sends them out
08:41 kf           you also need the overdues cronjob
08:41 Schwitzd     the /process_message_queue.pl there is the cronjob
08:40 Schwitzd     oky
08:34 kf           depending on the time schedule you want to use, you will also need to set up your notice triggers
08:34 kf           what you need to do is, configure an overdue notice and configure the cronjob
08:34 kf           http://manual.koha-community.org/3.4/en/cronjobsch.html
08:34 kf           http://manual.koha-community.org/3.4/en/notices.html
08:33 kf           http://manual.koha-community.org/3.6/en/noticetriggers.html
08:33 Schwitzd     yes
08:32 kf           I think you mean: checked out books that get overdue
08:32 kf           ah
08:32 kf           rangi++
08:32 Schwitzd     "your reservation is over date please retourn the book...."
08:31 Schwitzd     if don't retorn the book in this date I want to send to parton an email
08:31 Schwitzd     I set the patron can reserve the book for 20 days
08:31 Schwitzd     if the patron don't retourn the book
08:31 kf           or when the hold is placed in the pickup area for the patron?
08:30 kf           in time?
08:30 kf           you mean if the patron has not picked it up?
08:30 Schwitzd     How I can enable to send an email if the reservation is overdate?
08:30 kf           god morgen magnuse :)
08:30 Schwitzd     magnuse: ciao!
08:30 magnuse      hi kf rangi Schwitzd
08:30 Schwitzd     For example
08:29 kf           hi #koha
08:29 Schwitzd     I have a question reguarding the book retourning
08:29 rangi        hi Schwitzd
08:29 Schwitzd     Hello to everybody!
07:52 reiveune     hello
07:19 Oak          i really should not quit my day job.
07:19 cait         ?
07:17 Oak          never mind. i don't smoke.
07:17 magnuse      i can find one?
07:16 Oak          got a light?
07:16 magnuse      Oak
07:16 Oak          magnuse
07:16 magnuse      morning cait and Oak
07:16 Oak          too many 'relaxing's above
07:15 Oak          well, not relaxing. on work. but yes, kind of relaxing. anything other than exams is relaxing.
07:14 cait         morning magnuse
07:05 huginn       cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -0.1�C (8:00 AM CET on November 17, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: -1.0�C. Windchill: 0.0�C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027.0 hPa (Rising).
07:05 cait         @wunder Konstanz
07:05 cait         Oak: how are you today? relaxing after oyur exams?
07:05 cait         Oak: yes, soon
06:39 Oak          leaving for work?
06:38 Oak          how are we today?
06:37 cait         hi mr oak :)
06:37 Oak          oh hello miss cait :)
06:33 cait         hi kmkale
06:28 cait         hi Judit
06:17 Judit        hi
06:17 cait         hi jo
06:14 jransom      morning Cait
06:14 huginn       cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 1.0�C (7:00 AM CET on November 17, 2011). Conditions: Light Fog. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 1.0�C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Rising).
06:14 cait         @wunder Konstanz
06:13 cait         good morning #koha
04:49 Irma         can anyone give me the link to the recommended server specs for a Koha implementation ....? I can't find this info yet thought it was in the Koha Manual...
04:48 Irma         Hi all
04:00 Brooke       namaskar
03:38 wahanui      I LIKE ALMONDS! HAVE SOME NUTS!
03:38 rangi        rangi?
03:35 huginn       New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7239] Acquisitions basket, add order to basket, from new, Source of classification or shelving scheme being blank caused internal error <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7239>
03:27 dani         Hi AmitG!
03:25 AmitG        heya Brooke, dani
03:25 Brooke       awesome!
03:25 Brooke       howdy m'am
03:25 dani         Brooke: I did the job hop thing this week.
03:24 dani         Heya Brooke!
03:23 Brooke       hi Amit
03:22 AmitG        :D
03:22 AmitG        heya chris
03:19 Brooke       hi Judit.
03:19 Judit        HI
03:02 Brooke       :)
03:02 rangi        wb Brooke
03:02 Brooke       o/
01:33 dani         :( Missed Brooke
01:06 Brooke       morena
01:06 rangi        hiya Brooke
01:00 rhcl_away    ?
00:59 rhcl_away    I'm away
00:58 Brooke       homie g. Whaddup?
00:46 Brooke       o/
00:31 huginn       New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7238] The SIPconfig.xml is stored in the C4/SIP dir <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7238>
00:10 Phlunk3      if you're willing to sponsor a community member then please let me know ;) we have a librarian heading over at the beginning of December to introduce them to the system also.
00:09 rangi        we should send ibeardslee to fiji to set it up :)
00:09 Phlunk3      they have a real server there now, sort of, had to have him install a gui on ubuntu so I could remote session through a program because he didnt know how to open a port on his router so that I could ssh lol
00:08 Phlunk3      yeah ibeardslee however this way we're able to set it all up here, I spent 2 days walking an "it officer" through the installation process, only to realise he didnt know how to even copy paste commands :P
00:08 rangi        yeah maybe phase 2
00:07 ibeardslee   but does mean the added work of having a hub/switch and setting up the neworking
00:06 ibeardslee   also helps show people checking out books on a different workstation etc
00:05 ibeardslee   I sort of do think it worthwhile running the server on a separate machine. helps the idea that koha itself doesn't have to be installed on each workstation.
00:04 rangi        thats the balancing act
00:04 Phlunk3      indeed
00:04 rangi        or you will be doing them a disservice
00:04 rangi        you want to do it not too cheap
00:04 rangi        yup
00:04 Phlunk3      thanks mate, doing this on the cheap as they will be gifted to the fijian town councils as an introduction to the system.
00:04 rangi        but all the stuff on top of it does ;)
00:03 rangi        well x doesnt
00:03 rangi        cos running X uses a lot of both cpu and ram
00:03 rangi        then yeah the usual, as fast as cpu and as much ram as you can afford
00:03 rangi        right
00:02 Phlunk3      both rangi , sorry for late reply got calls