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19:09 Oak good night.
19:09 Oak me go now.
19:09 Oak 12:15 am.
19:06 Oak yeah
19:06 cait I think noone does
19:06 Oak hello druthb :)
19:06 Oak i don't like exams. not really.
19:06 druthb hi, Oak! :)
19:06 Oak yup :) tired
19:05 cait done with learning for today?
19:05 cait how is Oak?
19:05 cait :)
19:05 Oak how is miss cait?
19:05 Oak :)
19:05 cait scrolling broken again, annoying
19:05 cait ah wrong window :)
19:05 cait hope it's better now
18:36 rangi heya druthb :)
18:36 druthb hi, rangi. :)
18:28 rangi heya cait
18:27 cait oh, morning rangi
18:25 rangi http://www.pennlive.com/perry-county-times/index.ssf/2011/11/new_bloomfield_library_expands.html
18:18 cait yeah brr
18:18 huginn bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 16.9�C (10:15 AM PST on November 12, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 9.0�C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008.0 hPa (Rising).
18:18 bg @wunder 93109
18:14 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Spring Hill, Tennessee is 15.6�C (2:13 PM AST on November 12, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 42%. Dew Point: 3.0�C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1020.9 hPa (Steady).
18:14 druthb @wunder 38401
18:14 druthb brr!
18:13 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 4.1�C (7:09 PM CET on November 12, 2011). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 3.0�C. Windchill: 4.0�C. Pressure: 30.48 in 1032.1 hPa (Steady).
18:13 cait @wunder Konstanz
16:41 bg hey cait
16:41 cait hi bg and druthb :)
16:18 bg good I'm glad you're feeling better :)
16:14 druthb feeling a little better this morning. Yesterday was no fun.
16:14 bg how you doing?
16:14 bg hey druthb
16:14 druthb sup bg?
16:13 bg morning
13:13 druthb o/
11:02 Oak okay
11:02 cait pm?
11:02 Oak here on main window? or in private. it's quite long
11:01 Oak okay, ready
10:57 cait :)
10:53 Oak okay, will type it in full first, then copy paste here, so there is no delay in reading...
10:53 cait sure :)
10:53 Oak cait, read an amusing example in Business Communication book just now. want to hear it?
10:19 Brooke for the next 3m anyway :D
10:19 Brooke 0/
08:25 * Oak takes cookies (with thanks) and heads towards books
08:24 * cait sends cookies
08:24 cait :)
08:24 Oak back to studies
08:24 Oak :] *sigh* break time is over...
08:22 cait :)
08:22 cait oh wow
08:21 Oak and i have to do a project also... but for that I have about two months.
08:19 Oak MLIS last semester, Effective Business Communication, Management of Serial Publications, and Project Management.
08:12 cait what are the exams about?
08:12 cait missed by one day
08:12 cait ah
08:11 Oak thank you
08:11 Oak Monday to Wednesday -- 14th Nov to 16th Nov :)
08:07 cait tuedsay to thursday?
08:06 cait good luck for your exams :)
08:00 Oak thank you!
08:00 Oak yup, just now. i was away... preparing for exams.
07:59 cait got my message?
07:59 cait hi Oak :)
07:59 Oak hello miss cait :)
07:12 huginn cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 5.0�C (8:00 AM CET on November 12, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: 4.0�C. Pressure: 30.49 in 1032 hPa (Rising).
07:12 cait @wunder Konstanz
07:05 cait hi rangi
07:05 rangi hi cait
07:04 cait morning #koha
04:36 eythian (as an estimate)
04:36 eythian that'll do
04:36 eythian ah, it claims 1460
04:33 eythian trying to see if I can convince LWC to tell me
04:33 eythian what's the current best-guess as to the number of libraries with Koha?
04:29 eythian OK ta
04:27 rangi remind me at work
04:27 rangi that ppl sent me for kohacon09
04:26 rangi china, france, samoa, croatia
04:26 rangi I have a bunch
04:07 eythian (koha in the photo isn't important, just the books and stuff)
04:06 eythian does anyone have any photos of libraries running Koha that I can steal for a presentation? I just need one or two good pictures.
02:07 oleonard Modal cart using jQueryUI. That's as much as works at the moment, but proof of concept.
02:06 oleonard Here's what I wanted to try: http://screencast.com/t/2HBAOANkC
01:55 eythian those old mystic chinese people in those shops never seem to be very specific with their rules.
01:53 * oleonard wonders what percentage of contaminants is required to make water safe for mogwai consumption
01:53 jcamins_away Nifty!
01:53 wahanui First of all, keep jcamins_away out of the light, he hates bright light, especially sunlight, it'll kill him. Second, don't give him any water, not even to drink. But the most important rule, the rule you can never forget, no matter how much he cries, no matter how much he begs, never feed him after midnight.
01:53 jcamins_away gremlins?
01:49 oleonard Nice.
01:48 eythian heh
01:48 wahanui First of all, keep eythian out of the light, he hates bright light, especially sunlight, it'll kill him. Second, don't give him any water, not even to drink. But the most important rule, the rule you can never forget, no matter how much he cries, no matter how much he begs, never feed him after midnight.
01:48 eythian gremlins?
01:48 wahanui okay, eythian.
01:48 eythian no, wahanui, gremlins is <reply>First of all, keep $who out of the light, he hates bright light, especially sunlight, it'll kill him. Second, don't give him any water, not even to drink. But the most important rule, the rule you can never forget, no matter how much he cries, no matter how much he begs, never feed him after midnight.
01:46 wahanui First of all, keep him out of the light, he hates bright light, especially sunlight, it'll kill him. Second, don't give him any water, not even to drink. But the most important rule, the rule you can never forget, no matter how much he cries, no matter how much he begs, never feed him after midnight.
01:46 jcamins_away Gremlins?
01:41 wahanui OK, eythian.
01:41 eythian wahanui: gremlins is <reply>First of all, keep him out of the light, he hates bright light, especially sunlight, it'll kill him. Second, don't give him any water, not even to drink. But the most important rule, the rule you can never forget, no matter how much he cries, no matter how much he begs, never feed him after midnight.
01:24 oleonard Gremlins.
01:23 oleonard Oh wait, now it's working.
01:22 jcamins_away Does mybranch already exist?
01:22 jcamins_away I just did that a few minutes ago.
01:19 oleonard Can I not check out a new branch based on a remote one with the same syntax? git checkout -b mybranch remote/branchname ?
01:18 jcamins_away Uh-oh.
01:17 * oleonard is now wondering why he can't check out one of his remote branches
01:17 oleonard But I wanted to test something, so I thought I'd tinker a bit
01:17 oleonard I have a grand plan for a restructuring of the OPAC templates, one which would require many hours of work I'm not getting paid to do
01:16 jcamins_away :)
01:16 jcamins_away oleonard: what are you tinkering on?
01:16 eythian crap, lunch ordered and I forgot about it. bbiab
01:16 eythian nice of it.
01:16 eythian curiously, git bz must have seen that it wasn't there, and inserted the URL, too.
01:15 eythian )
01:15 eythian (which is why I put Bug .... - ... at the top, I thought you hadn't.
01:14 eythian yeah, but when I signed off, git stripped it out.
01:14 jcamins_away Hmm... I just did what I thought chris_n said to.
01:14 eythian (the other reason being I just think it doesn't look nice :)
01:14 eythian ah, another reason to not use [BZ...] for bugs, it's automatically stripped out sometimes by git.
01:10 jcamins_away Definitely not a usual time for cait.
01:10 eythian bye cait
01:10 jcamins_away oleonard: pretty much every time is usual for me.
01:10 eythian hi cait
01:09 oleonard I don't know whether this is a usual time for you jcamins_away :)
01:08 oleonard Yup. Had a free moment and felt like tinkering.
01:07 jcamins_away oleonard: an unusual time for you to be around, isn't it?
01:06 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7216] koha-restore doesn't set HOME <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7216>
00:58 eythian sweet. Me too :)
00:57 * jcamins_away returns to what he's supposed to be doing.
00:57 jcamins_away Done.
00:53 eythian done the dup part already
00:53 * jcamins_away will let you mark yours as a duplicate while he sends the patch.
00:52 eythian haha
00:52 eythian (should be a one-liner, I just have too much stuff to do in the short term.)
00:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7216 normal, P5 - low, ---, robin, NEW , koha-restore doesn't set HOME
00:52 jcamins_away Also bug 7216.
00:52 eythian patches welcome ;)
00:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7217 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, NEW , koha-restore doesn't correctly configure the home dir
00:52 eythian jcamins_away: Bug 7217
00:52 eythian jcamins_away: not really, no. Our config between staging and prod is different enough that it's too much trouble.
00:50 jcamins_away I guess you don't use koha-restore much? :)
00:49 eythian no worries
00:48 jcamins_away Thanks.
00:46 eythian and then just restart all the services so they're not confused.
00:46 eythian or use vipw :)
00:46 eythian you may also need to stop apache
00:46 eythian (and start it when you're done)
00:46 eythian ah, sudo /etc/init.d/koha-common stop
00:45 jcamins_away "user demo-koha is currently logged in."
00:45 jcamins_away Bother.
00:45 eythian or vipw
00:45 eythian usermod -d /var/lib/koha/$name $name-koha should do it
00:44 jcamins_away usermod -d?
00:44 jcamins_away Now, how do I change the home for an existing user?
00:44 eythian well, good to know :)
00:44 eythian cool :)
00:44 jcamins_away Right.
00:43 eythian ah, it doesn't set the $HOME like koha-create does?
00:43 jcamins_away Bug in koha-restore.
00:43 jcamins_away Bingo!
00:42 eythian maybe $HOME of $name-koha isn't readable by the $name-koha user on your system
00:42 eythian if you test this, make sure you start as root and use sudo in a similar fashion to however you're doing it. It's likely a subtle environment thing.
00:42 jcamins_away Well, that's there.
00:41 eythian so that it's no longer root, but the home dir of $name-koha
00:41 eythian the -H updates $HOME
00:41 eythian /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl $@
00:41 eythian KOHA_CONF="/etc/koha/sites/$name/koha-conf.xml" \
00:41 eythian env PERL5LIB=/usr/share/koha/lib \
00:41 eythian sudo -u "$name-koha" -H \
00:40 eythian oh, I just remembered how I fixed it:
00:40 eythian To start with, I'd write a test script that creates a temp dir, and see if that fails to remove the dir. From there, you can trace it easier.
00:39 eythian that may or may not be what you're seeing though, I'm quite sure I fixed that particular case.
00:39 jcamins_away Hmmm... how does one fix that?
00:39 eythian *however ~ was /root
00:38 eythian The problem then was that the File::Temp code would chdir to ~ before deleting, however ~ was root, but the process wasn't running as root, so it failed.
00:38 eythian we usually saw it as the /tmp space running out
00:37 jcamins_away And, sure enough, it took about a month for me to notice the problem.
00:37 eythian OK, so then quite a bit shorter :)
00:36 jcamins_away I'm rebuilding at a rate of 12 times/hour for... four instances..
00:36 eythian more if you have more than one site on that host, so rebuild zebra happens more often.
00:35 eythian at a rate of 4 per hour, ~8,000 hours.
00:34 jcamins_away So... how long does it take for 32k entries to be created?
00:31 eythian I'd clean out /tmp, then at least it'll be easier to diagnose :)
00:31 eythian so maybe it's similar-but-different
00:30 eythian that said, my servers aren't getting it now
00:30 eythian but, it was prone to returning
00:30 jcamins_away Well, it seems to be back?
00:30 jcamins_away Oh.
00:30 eythian I thought I fixed it in 3.2 days
00:30 jcamins_away It took this error several weeks to show up.
00:29 jcamins_away This isn't latest master.
00:29 eythian I thought I'd finally nailed it though, but maybe not...
00:29 eythian not readable by non-root
00:29 eythian rather
00:29 eythian there is/was a bug that I kept fixing and it kept coming back that caused rebuild_zebra to refuse to delete stuff from /tmp if ~root is not writable.
00:29 jcamins_away I guess you've never seen this before?
00:29 jcamins_away Which is running only from koha-rebuild-zebra.
00:29 jcamins_away They're all from rebuild_zebra.
00:28 eythian that's probably it
00:28 eythian hmm
00:28 eythian ah
00:28 jcamins_away And I can confirm, there are approximately an absurd number of directories in /tmp
00:28 eythian that's a new one
00:28 eythian tjat
00:27 jcamins_away I'm about to inspect that line in rebuild_zebra.
00:27 jcamins_away I'm getting that error from koha-rebuild-zebra.
00:27 jcamins_away http://paste.koha-community.org/113
00:26 jcamins_away (pasting it)
00:26 eythian OK...
00:26 jcamins_away eythian: I have a really weird error.
00:11 eythian good luck
00:10 Junie Thanks again and have a great day
00:10 Junie I did look at the wiki and did not find anything. I will look again and will try the forum
00:10 eythian no problem
00:10 Junie Thank you for your kind help
00:09 eythian (I don't usually deal with that aspect of hardware, so don't have a lot to contribue :)
00:09 eythian for printers, I'm not really sure, but it uses firefox to do the printing, so anything that works with that. You might want to ask on the koha mailing list for recommendations if the wiki doesn't help.
00:08 eythian I'm not really sure, but have a look at http://wiki.koha-community.org - there might be stuff there. Basically, for scanners, anything that acts like a keyboard ("keyboard wedge" they're sometimes called.) This is (afaik) most of them.
00:08 Junie like barcode scanner and printers
00:07 Junie do you know where I can find a list of recomended hardware that works with Koha?
00:07 Junie Thank you
00:05 eythian you are, though it's not terribly busy on a Saturday.
00:05 Junie I am trying to find a list of recomended hardware: scanner, Printers etc that should be used with Koha. am I in the correct Chat?
00:04 Junie Good day everyone