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23:05 eythian bye cait1
23:04 cait1 night #koha
23:02 JoeLib001 Thanks for the help. :-)
23:01 rangi i think without periodicity then im afraid
23:00 rangi yeah
23:00 JoeLib001 Not necessarily. :-)
23:00 rangi does it always come on the same date(s) every month?
22:59 rangi JoeLib001: i cant think how to programme it in a general way
22:59 wizzyrea oh dear.
22:58 JoeLib001 Hehe.
22:58 JoeLib001 Consensus would be that it would be an irregular periodical then. Now I get to go down the rabbit hole. Anyone have a blue pill so I can go back home?
22:58 wizzyrea poor kid.
22:58 wizzyrea who thought that was a good idea.
22:58 wizzyrea that is awesome.
22:57 wizzyrea HAHA
22:57 eythian http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/File:Rabbit.JPG <-- one like this?
22:57 JoeLib001 Hehe.
22:57 wizzyrea SUPRISE!
22:57 wizzyrea but you can always hire a bunny to climb out of it,
22:56 JoeLib001 Can't always have your cake and eat it too I guess.
22:56 wizzyrea but I still luv u ;)
22:56 rangi :)
22:56 JoeLib001 hehe.
22:56 JoeLib001 Unawesome?
22:55 wizzyrea eythian: pwnt
22:55 JoeLib001 Or what's the opposite of that word? Hehehe.
22:55 rangi because it will be
22:55 rangi or irregular
22:55 JoeLib001 Awesome.
22:55 rangi basically 2 a month is without periodicity
22:55 JoeLib001 Ah well.
22:55 eythian oh, yeah
22:55 JoeLib001 That's what I thought. hehe.
22:55 rangi thats why she said as close as you will get
22:55 eythian wizzyrea: twice a month is not quite the same as every 2 weeks
22:54 rangi it even
22:54 rangi i wont reset every month
22:54 wizzyrea O.O
22:54 JoeLib001 Does that reset every month or will it make it so that the sixth week it will expect a magazine even though it is the first of the month?
22:51 eythian http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/3650552.html <-- "librarygate"
22:51 wizzyrea :D
22:50 rangi :)
22:50 JoeLib001 'bah...., this periodicals stuff is crazy. hehe. :-)
22:50 rangi umm wouldnt that be one every 2 weeks?
22:50 wizzyrea 1 every 2 weeks is as close as you'll get
22:50 JoeLib001 I mean 2 every month.
22:50 JoeLib001 I saw that, I was just wondering, if there was some way to get a 1 every month.
22:50 rangi not 2 a week :)
22:50 rangi 1 every 2 weeks
22:50 rangi 1 a week
22:50 JoeLib001 Yeah...
22:49 rangi it goes
22:49 rangi 1/2 weeks
22:49 rangi should be there too
22:49 JoeLib001 v. 3.04.05.00
22:49 rangi which is pretty close
22:49 rangi in 3.6.0 there is a 1 every 2 weeks
22:48 mfann thanks
22:47 wizzyrea how about this: hi, nice to see you here.
22:47 wizzyrea nm lol.
22:47 mfann hmmm
22:47 JoeLib001 let me check
22:47 wizzyrea brieflty
22:47 mfann was i gone?
22:47 rangi JoeLib001: what version of koha?
22:46 wizzyrea welcome back :P
22:46 mfann what?
22:46 wizzyrea wb mfann
22:43 eythian magnus_away: the latest version of my script flags the MARC records as UTF8, that might solve your encoding problem
22:42 JoeLib001 Hello, I am trying to find the best way to enter a subscription that is twice monthly in the serials module. The closest thing is a twice a week option. Is there a way to setup a subscription to be twice monthly?
22:39 rangi night
22:39 rangi cool :)
22:39 magnuse good night!
22:39 magnuse rangi: https://gist.github.com/1349518
22:36 * rangi might do you a patch :)
22:36 rangi is it in git?
22:35 eythian bye magnuse!
22:35 magnuse good night, #koha!
22:35 rangi noice!
22:35 magnuse that encoding thing will have to wait for another day
22:35 magnuse input, output and (meta-)script is here: http://div.libriotech.no/doaj2koha/
22:34 eythian hi cait1
22:33 magnuse eythian++
22:32 cait1 and wb eythian :)
22:32 cait1 magnuse++ :)
22:32 rangi magnuse++
22:31 rangi rock on
22:31 magnuse doaj in koha: http://doaj.priv.bibkat.no/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=su:History - some encoding messup, though...
22:27 rangi *nod*
22:26 eythian (as it's intended to be used by scripts)
22:26 eythian also, makes for good reproducability of migration processes
22:26 rangi which is no bad thing
22:26 rangi so it might help others avoid that too
22:25 rangi :)
22:25 rangi mostly it exists so we dont have to use the proprietary MarcEdit
22:25 magnuse hehe
22:25 eythian I just haven't got around to it
22:25 rangi yeah
22:25 rangi yep, but could be
22:25 eythian I've been thinking of making that optional
22:25 magnuse so not quite independent from koha...
22:25 eythian yeah, just enough to look up mappings so you can give it column names and it works out the marc
22:25 magnuse yep
22:24 rangi yep, for the mappings
22:24 magnuse hm, actually it needs both koha-config.xml and the C4 directory
22:24 wizzyrea fair enough.
22:24 wizzyrea keke
22:24 rangi whereever someone is volunteering to host it ;)
22:24 wizzyrea speaking of contribs... where should that live?
22:23 rangi i think it only uses a couple of C4 modules eh?
22:23 magnuse true
22:22 rangi cos its not relaly koha specific
22:21 eythian yeah, I plan to merge it into druthb's migration toolbox at some stage, too.
22:21 rangi in the migration tools area
22:21 rangi when we get that back up
22:21 rangi i think something that could live at contribs.koha-community.org
22:21 magnuse is that something you'd ever submit for inclusion in koha? seems like something others might find useful...
22:20 magnuse ah hah!
22:15 eythian (because that's what I'm currently working on - I merge it back into import_branch when I'm done)
22:15 eythian also, the most current version is in the rbnz_import branch
22:15 eythian it was once a 100 line script. It's now a 2,100 line script.
22:11 magnuse ooh, clever trick! ;-)
22:09 eythian (of course, you'd have to refactor it, or you're violating the comment ;)
22:09 eythian :)
22:09 eythian # are refactored out.
22:09 eythian # Here's the deal: no adding more stuff here until the copy-pasta bits
22:09 eythian you could add an arg for it right under the comment that says:
22:09 magnuse ah, that could be, perhaps
22:08 eythian it'd be easy to add though
22:08 eythian magnuse: although, it's possible that combine doesn't have the ability to not take a substring, because I've never needed that :)
22:07 magnuse what she said
22:07 eythian also, usually I write the documentation while the other half of my brain is working out how I'm going to actually implement it.
22:07 wizzyrea :)
22:07 eythian magnuse: yep, combine will do that
22:07 wizzyrea that is admirable.
22:07 wizzyrea and you make it so others can understand
22:06 wizzyrea but you don't have to document it in ways that others understand, see
22:06 wizzyrea *nod*
22:06 eythian wizzyrea: I have to document it, or I forget how to make it do things :)
22:06 wizzyrea oh lord I was doing something... sheesh
22:06 magnuse but the syntax get somewhat complicated there ;-)
22:06 * wizzyrea was admiring the documentation in that script
22:05 magnuse i think "combine" is supposed to do it
22:05 magnuse never mind, i'll bang my head on it a bit more :-)
22:05 eythian All the functions in there are things I've added as I've found I needed them, so it's possible I've never needed to do that.
22:04 eythian hmm, that might be possible, I can't remember
22:04 magnuse nah, i wouldn't call it a monstrosity - it's impressive!
22:03 magnuse ...sort of thing
22:03 magnuse startyear + " - " + endyear
22:03 magnuse now if i could only figure out how to combine two columns with some text between them...
22:03 eythian it has grown from a simple script to a dynamically programmed monstrosity a bit :)
22:02 eythian heh
22:02 magnuse not at all!
22:02 magnuse (hm, that didn't look right, but you know what i mean :-)
22:02 eythian horrified awe?
22:01 * magnuse is in awe of csvtomarc.pl
22:01 eythian hi magnuse
22:01 magnuse kia ora eythian
22:00 wahanui what's up, eythian
22:00 eythian hello
21:59 wizzyrea hi!
21:59 wahanui eythian is in NZ. ;) or a good influence
21:59 wizzyrea eythian!
21:59 trea o/
21:56 eythian hi all
21:55 schuster see you all tomorrow!
21:40 schuster Thanks - from what I have been talking about this afternoon with another tech person in the district I have bigger problems... Debian upgrades! I'll be back tomorrow!
21:31 cait1 schuster: I don't think we have qr codes in koha yet - but sounds like a nice addition :)
21:23 schuster I have another question but it has to wait until tomorrow.. Dealing with Debian upgrades!
21:23 schuster But they are not Dependancies already within Koha...
21:23 wizzyrea oh well never mind then.
21:23 schuster I've found this one HTML::QRCode and Text::QRCode and a Perl program that uses them...
21:22 wizzyrea sec
21:22 wizzyrea there's a library for it
21:21 schuster I generate QR codes using lots of different tools, but this would be something "native" to Koha and PERL.
21:21 schuster Then putting that code on the right side below the search other XXXX for this title.
21:21 schuster QR code that is.
21:20 schuster I'm thinking of a perl program that dynamically would build them.
21:20 rangi i forget what we used
21:20 schuster Therefore, I was wondering if there were any packages already being used before I go off and find my own Debian QR library to use.
21:20 rangi you could totally do that by putting the image url in 856u
21:19 rangi that'd work
21:19 rangi yup
21:19 schuster I'm thinking about putting QR codes on the Details page so a person could scan it and have the call number mobile.
21:19 rangi you can make the qr code just resolve to a url since koha has persitent url's
21:19 schuster :)
21:19 rangi to do nametags for kohacon10
21:18 rangi and koha
21:18 rangi we used qr codes
21:18 schuster Hey... was thinking of everyone at KohaCon... Can't wait to view presentations given.
21:18 schuster Has anyone had experience developing QR codes in Koha yet? Just curious what others are thinking about using.
21:18 rangi ltns
21:18 rangi look its schuster !!
21:04 rangi will tell ya
21:04 rangi vs the date i said pushed
21:03 rangi but the date they were added
21:03 wizzyrea hmm
21:03 rangi yes i removed all that were pushed
21:02 nengard many of them were pushed already though -don't know if they were marked that way
21:02 nengard i did them one by one cause the RM wanted it that way :) hehe
21:01 wizzyrea right
21:01 rangi so doing them all is probably ok
21:01 rangi or you could do one by one .. i suspect its not likely to break
21:01 rangi if not, find the broken one
21:01 rangi squash it
21:01 rangi and if mysql -u user -p database < kohastruture.sql still works fine
21:00 rangi you could do them all
21:00 rangi wizzyrea: you need to test it still works
21:00 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6716 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, ASSIGNED , Database Documentation
21:00 wizzyrea the ones for bug 6716
21:00 wahanui patches are on the bug
21:00 cait1 patches?
20:57 wizzyrea worth it to apply them all then squash or better to do them one by one?
20:56 wizzyrea oh my look at all of those patches
20:50 magnuse tee hee
20:48 wizzyrea lulz
20:48 rangi i call it making ppl do the stuff i dont want to
20:48 * oleonard heads off to vote
20:48 rangi ppl call it mentoring
20:48 * wizzyrea teases
20:48 rangi thats me :)
20:48 wizzyrea slavedriver. <3
20:48 rangi :)
20:47 wizzyrea ok ok :)
20:47 rangi once they are in master i can update the schema :)
20:47 wizzyrea der, that should have been obvious eh
20:47 rangi waiting to be signed off
20:47 wizzyrea i kno!
20:47 rangi there are comments
20:47 rangi wizzyrea: you can help
20:47 oleonard message_queue I think
20:47 wahanui okay, wizzyrea.
20:47 wizzyrea schema is also found at http://schema.koha-community.org
20:47 wizzyrea http://schema.koha-community.org
20:46 wizzyrea schema.koha-community.org
20:46 oleonard :P
20:46 wahanui schema is tracked in git.
20:46 oleonard schema?
20:46 * wizzyrea consulted the schema, it didn't have a comment for that one :/
20:46 wizzyrea what table are the outgoing email messages kept in again?
20:39 cait ohoh
20:34 rangi he was in nz yesterday
20:33 rangi today
20:33 cait which brings us to the question: when will he be back? :)
20:30 rangi yes, yes there is
20:26 magnuse eythian++
20:26 magnuse oh my, there's a lot of effort put into that csvtomarc.p script ;-)
20:21 magnuse ah, thanks a tonne
20:21 rangi take a look at example.sh
20:20 rangi in import/csv
20:20 rangi http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?p=koha.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/import_branch
20:19 rangi 2 secs
20:19 magnuse ok, i'm lazy where does eythian's script live again?
20:18 rangi *nod*
20:18 magnuse yay, sounds like a project - then it's just a question of finding the time ;-)
20:17 rangi :)
20:17 rangi and do updates
20:17 rangi of journals added in the last 7 days
20:17 rangi then you just follow the rss
20:17 magnuse it might also be interesting to split it up based on subject or language, perhaps
20:17 rangi and once you do it
20:16 magnuse ah yes, of course
20:16 rangi you can use eythians csv to marc script
20:16 magnuse :-)
20:16 rangi easy peasy then
20:16 magnuse and oai_dc
20:16 magnuse csv
20:16 rangi dublin core
20:15 rangi lemme see what formats its in
20:15 nengard ooo
20:15 rangi hmmm
20:14 * magnuse ponders turning metadata from doaj.org into marc records for easy importing into koha http://www.doaj.org/doaj?func=loadTempl&templ=faq#metadata
20:04 wizzyrea (they still like it)
20:04 wizzyrea hehe
20:04 libsysguy haha indeed
20:04 oleonard I've met a few geese and they're far more likely to chase you.
20:03 wizzyrea makes you tired and the goose likes it.
20:03 libsysguy but ill check it tonight
20:03 libsysguy I'm in my phys2 lab atm
20:03 wizzyrea ^^
20:03 rangi or you will goose chase yourself to death
20:03 libsysguy ok will do
20:03 rangi try to replicate first
20:03 rangi moremember.pl just displays stuff
20:03 rangi its circ/circulation.pl
20:03 libsysguy well poop
20:03 rangi yeah it doesnt
20:02 libsysguy oh?
20:02 libsysguy yeah maybe
20:02 rangi but moremember.pl doesnt do the circ
20:02 libsysguy hmm ok I'll investigate it
20:02 wizzyrea are they different?
20:02 wizzyrea merge issue possibly?
20:02 rangi could be
20:02 libsysguy and that seems like a pretty likely problem
20:02 rangi yeah you shouldnt
20:02 libsysguy i definitly have 2 build issue data functions
20:02 cait like compare the items with onloan = a date to the entries in issues
20:02 libsysguy hmm
20:02 libsysguy i keep seeing that in the log
20:01 rangi its only there once for me
20:01 cait you could do some checks perhaps
20:01 rangi no
20:01 cait hmm
20:01 libsysguy if they are i'd like to find out
20:01 libsysguy not sure
20:01 wizzyrea libsysguy: are these hourly issues?
20:01 libsysguy anybody have a duplicated function "build_issue_data" in moremember.pl
20:01 rangi and see what happens
20:01 cait I think I didn't get part of the problem description
20:01 rangi id try to issue one of the ones they say has been issued
20:01 rangi if its overdues cait
20:01 cait ok
20:00 rangi yes
20:00 cait have we ruled out indexing problems?
20:00 cait hm
20:00 wizzyrea going too fast is another culprit
20:00 libsysguy that is probably my next step
20:00 rangi or issue one, and not have it put a row in the issues table
20:00 rangi can you replicate, return an item and not have it be returned
19:59 libsysguy well on the ones that are showing in that are out
19:59 libsysguy i am wondering if it is too…but they have the print slips to back it up
19:59 wizzyrea or not watching the screen
19:59 wizzyrea i have seen stuff kinda like that, but it's almost always human error
19:59 libsysguy right
19:59 rangi theres no way for it to know otherwise
19:59 libsysguy right
19:59 rangi then koha thinks its out
19:58 rangi well if its out in issues
19:58 libsysguy and im 99% sure the overdue function grabs from issues
19:58 libsysguy my overdues script is grabbing them
19:58 rangi you will want to check that
19:58 libsysguy i am pretty sure its in issues
19:58 rangi or in the items table only
19:58 libsysguy yeah they are marked out
19:57 wahanui it has been said that wait, is it only in items?
19:57 wizzyrea wait, what?
19:57 rangi but they are marked out in issues?
19:57 wizzyrea it is, it so is.
19:57 oleonard It's always all about you wizzyrea
19:57 libsysguy and sometimes items that show checked in are most definitely checked out
19:57 libsysguy well…books that are "checked out" are on the shelf
19:57 rangi randomly in what way?
19:57 wizzyrea me
19:57 libsysguy I did a big delete of duplicate biblios a week or two ago from when the matching rules were borken
19:57 wizzyrea just ime.
19:57 wizzyrea but "my recent comments"
19:57 wizzyrea naw, not just "recent comments"
19:56 rangi http://www.flickr.com/photos/ranginui/6286655293/in/photostream recent comments with libravatar
19:56 wizzyrea :O
19:56 libsysguy i am wondering if there is a way to check the consistency of the issues table
19:56 libsysguy for some reason checkin/checkouts are working randomly
19:56 nengard uh oh
19:55 libsysguy and I think it might be a big one
19:55 libsysguy so I have a problem guys
19:55 wizzyrea oleonard reminds me via blog post that i was going to look at "my recent comments"
19:55 libsysguy hey rhcl
19:55 wahanui libsysguy is, like, Koha's hottest developer or partying with swedes on his deck
19:55 rhcl libsysguy
19:41 wizzyrea hehe
19:40 rangi which is a total win wwhen you read url mail over ssh
19:40 wizzyrea yea, exactly!
19:40 rangi well it means when someone sends me an odt by email, mutt can just spawn that
19:40 wizzyrea making_something_to_increase_ability_to_be_lazy++
19:39 wizzyrea nice
19:39 wizzyrea HA!
19:39 rangi https://twitter.com/#!/ijw_chrisf/status/133773279738593280
19:39 rangi chris forbes works down on level 2
19:38 rangi yay!
19:38 rangi https://github.com/chrisforbes/odr
19:21 chris_n may tabs with heavy js as well
19:21 * chris_n loves hyperbole
19:21 chris_n this happens after I open a zillion tabs for 2 zillion hours
19:20 chris_n I'm guessing there is a memory leak in the container process somewhere
19:20 rangi yeah
19:20 chris_n I think the main ff process respawns it
19:20 rangi ive seen that plenty
19:20 rangi but something else might be restarting it
19:19 rangi it may well do
19:19 jcamins_away I was just commenting on the fact that kill -9 should kill -9 things.
19:19 jcamins_away rangi: chris_n is the one with the problem.
19:18 rangi jcamins_away: same pid, or is something respawning it?
19:12 nengard when FF7 came out and it was faster than other FFs I switched back
19:12 nengard and i did switch to chrome for a few months but i didn't like it
19:11 nengard hmmmm
19:10 chris_n lol
19:09 oleonard nengard: I have a report on my intranet that crashes Firefox every time I try to print it, so I know it's possible.
19:09 jcamins_away chris_n: I think I may identified the problem here. In what kind of OS does kill -9 cause something to restart?
19:09 chris_n eekkk! killing it just caused it to respawn and consume 94%+
19:08 nengard hmmm
19:08 oleonard Yes
19:08 nengard did you give the patron the exact same permissions I listed?
19:07 oleonard Of course, we just need to find out what the trigger was
19:07 nengard and it crashes for them everytime
19:07 nengard but another library tried it on all those OSes I listed
19:07 nengard and wished i had recorded my actions before the major crash
19:07 nengard okay, i know it happened
19:07 oleonard But re-testing with a patron image added doesn't make FF go crashy
19:07 chris_n mind boggling
19:07 oleonard nengard: The only difference I see in the record you posted the screenshot of and the record I tested with is the patron image
19:07 chris_n for example: right now ff's plug-in container has 64%+ of one of my cpu's
19:06 rangi and firefox, interchangably
19:06 rangi I use chromium not chrome
19:04 chris_n ie stinks, period
19:04 chris_n hence my threat to go to google chrome
19:04 jcamins_away rangi: that's cheating.
19:04 rangi and if you think thats bad, try ie 8
19:03 chris_n at least when it involves js
19:02 * chris_n is amazed at nothing firefox can do badly
18:59 nengard but i needed to do my job and couldn't
18:59 nengard maybe it was a plugin i had or something
18:58 nengard the only way i could get the darn thing to start up again was to reinstall
18:58 nengard i restarted my computer and had the same issues
18:58 nengard everytime i restarted with a new session it did the same thing
18:58 nengard and then when i clicked to open a new tab it wouldn't open because it timed out again
18:58 nengard but when it tried to reoopen it it took 30 min to get google up
18:58 nengard oleonard, i have no clue
18:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7192 critical, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , can't print in FF without tools permission
18:57 oleonard re: Bug 7192
18:57 * oleonard wonders how Firefox could crash so catastrophically that it would need to be reinstalled
18:47 cait morning :)
18:46 chris_n got your message about 3.6.x; I'll try just as soon as I can break loose of a few moments
18:45 chris_n heya rangi
18:45 rangi morning
18:45 * chris_n threatens to go "chrome-al" on firefox
18:32 Oak me go now. good night.
18:00 cait :)
18:00 cait +1
18:00 oleonard Maybe even 1.something...
18:00 wizzyrea to preserve that
18:00 wizzyrea :)
18:00 wizzyrea we should make a screenshot gallery on the wiki
18:00 oleonard Koha 2.something
17:59 wizzyrea aww
17:59 oleonard That was the template I designed for my library, color-coordinated with our public site of the time.
17:59 wizzyrea I like the brown tho
17:59 oleonard I found it on my computer
17:59 wizzyrea that's not accessible :P
17:58 wizzyrea ^.^ just kidding
17:58 wizzyrea "I want BLUE, and GREEN, and YELLOW"
17:58 * wizzyrea ponders an intranet coloring spree
17:58 cait :)
17:57 wizzyrea you know there are some things I like about that lol
17:57 wizzyrea where did you find that?
17:57 * wizzyrea startles
17:47 oleonard A blast from the past: http://www.screencast.com/t/ma41rAf9yGaO
17:46 libsysguy I think it insterts into issues
17:37 cait not even sure what it does :)
17:37 cait hm
17:36 libsysguy i keep getting an error message in the logs that it is redefined
17:35 cait ?
17:33 libsysguy is the function build_issue_data in moremember.pl redefined for anybody else?
17:10 oleonard Take that you slackers.
17:01 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7194] OPAC detail and recent comments pages require corrections for XHTML validity <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7194>
16:29 kf bye all
16:29 kf time to leave
16:27 kf totally dark outside :(
16:25 kf phew
16:25 oleonard False alarm.
16:25 oleonard the & was in a subtitle
16:24 oleonard Oh wait, my mistake.
16:24 kf :(
16:23 oleonard It doesn't.
16:23 oleonard I would expect [% title |html %] to output a title with ampersands escaped as &
16:22 kf oleonard: what do you want to do?
16:22 kf I used one for the messaging tab to keep the line breaks :)
16:22 oleonard However, the |html filter doesn't seem to be working :(
16:22 kf there are lots of cool filters .)
16:13 * oleonard discovers the html_break filter in T:T: http://template-toolkit.org/docs/manual/Filters.html#section_html_break_html_para_break
16:09 reiveune bye
16:06 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7191] C4::Circulation exports non-existant subroutine GetBorrowerIssues <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7191>
16:06 * oleonard has been happily outlook-free for several years now...wouldn't want to go back!
16:02 kf outlook--
15:45 * oleonard remembers when he first heard that joke when he was a kid... thought it was so original at the time, and hilarious
15:45 kf ok, I will not click
15:43 * wizzyrea dares not click on that link
15:42 * oleonard got dragged into "Gaussian Girl" but managed to break free
15:42 jcamins_away oleonard: don't do it! Don't trap kf in tvtropes!
15:40 oleonard http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/OrAreYouJustHappyToSeeMe
15:38 kf hm?
15:34 * wizzyrea kids
15:34 wizzyrea whatever it is I hope you're still happy to see me.
15:23 jcamins_away oleonard: a good choice, especially when your life is on the line.
15:20 oleonard My next question would have been "What have I got in my pocket?"
15:10 magnus_afk next quesstion would have been: did you run that as sudo?
15:08 anathemizatu Goodbye everybody, thank you very much for your help
15:07 anathemizatu I'll be working on the permissions
15:07 anathemizatu Now I get some errors, zebra_lock_create fail fname=/var/lock/koha/libtest2/biblios/norm..LCK [Permission denied]
15:07 magnus_afk ah, the -f makes sure all the records are indexed
15:07 anathemizatu Thanks. I was doing it without "-f"
15:06 wizzyrea ooh we should add that to the faq
15:06 magnus_afk for the packages that would be koha-rebuild-zebra -f instancename
15:05 wahanui searching faq is at http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/searching/
15:05 wizzyrea searching faq?
15:05 magnus_afk hm, first thing i'd try is to rebuild the zebra index
15:05 anathemizatu That is why I need more information, in order to properly troubleshoot the way it is integrated with Koha/Mysql
15:04 anathemizatu In opac, and in the staff client when searching in the catalogue
15:03 magnus_afk both in the opac and in the staff client?
15:03 anathemizatu Yes
15:03 magnus_afk you get no results when you search?
15:02 anathemizatu It does not
15:01 magnus_afk but does it?
15:01 anathemizatu Thanks
15:00 magnus_afk yup, it should
14:59 anathemizatu So how do I set up after that the search to work? Should it work out of the box?
14:59 magnus_afk i think it used to be the other way around, hence our confusion...
14:58 magnus_afk NoZebra = [Use] the Zebra search engine. It is recommended to use Zebra; the option to not use Zebra is deprecated and is not guaranteed to work.
14:58 magnus_afk anathemizatu: you are right. NoZebra should be "Use"! i'm getting it backwards
14:58 anathemizatu In 3.6 is the syspref set up as pozitive?
14:57 kf it gets too confusing
14:57 kf it's why we try not to generate negative sysprefs now
14:56 magnus_afk yeah, that syspref is really weirdly worded
14:56 anathemizatu Ok, thanks. I just thought that the following phrase "{Use,Don't use}the Zebra search engine. It is recommended to use Zebra; the option to not use Zebra is deprecated and is not guaranteed to work." refers to using Zebra, not to the parameter "NoZebra"
14:52 magnus_afk NoZebra = Don't use. Period.
14:52 kf yes, leave it to don't use and concentrate on making your search work
14:52 magnus_afk forget about NoZebra, the sooner the better
14:52 anathemizatu But zebrasrv returns the following message:16:27:46-08/11 zebrasrv(1) [log] dict_lookup_grep: (\x01\x0B)(l(i|\xC3\xAD|\xC3\xAC|\xC3\xAE|\xE1\xBB\x8B|\xC4\xA9|\xC4\xAD|\xC4\xAF|\xC7\x90|\xC8\x89|\xC8\x8B)t(e|\xC3\xA9|\xC3\xA8|\xC3\xAA|\xE1\xBA\xBD|\xC4\x95|\xC4\x99|\xC4\x97|\xC4\x9B|\xC8\x85|\xC8\x87)r(a|\xC3\xA1|\xC3\xA0|\xC3\xA3|\xC3\xA5|\xC3\xA2|\xC4\x83|\xC4\x85|\xC8\xA7|\xC7\x8E|\xC8\x81|\xC8\x83)t(u|\xC3\xBA|\xC3\xB9|\xC3\xBB|\xC5\xA9|\xC5\xAD|\x
14:51 kf yep
14:51 magnus_afk anathemizatu: that sounds perfect...
14:51 anathemizatu with "Use" Nozebra, I get no search results
14:51 anathemizatu with "Don't Use" NoZebra, zebrasrv outputs no messages and the searches return the results
14:50 kf so search is not working means that you don't get any results?
14:50 anathemizatu No results. In future the library might have books in russian, but now we use only latin characters for testing
14:49 kf do you get no results with your search or too many/wrong results?
14:49 kf do you have nonlatin characters?
14:49 kf hm
14:49 magnus_afk and what do you mean by "the searching works"?
14:48 oleonard What do you mean by "no reaction from zebrasrv?"
14:48 anathemizatu I've already written that when "NoZebra" is set to "Don't Use", the searching works but I get no reaction from zebrasrv. When "NoZebra" is "Use", the searching doesn't work, but zebrasrv reacts to the searches I make
14:46 magnus_afk anathemizatu: does searching work when you search in the opac?
14:44 jcamins I've always had the packages work right off for me, so I suspect this probably has something to do with you trying to use NoZebra.
14:43 jcamins anathemizatu: how can you tell no data is indexed?
14:42 jcamins In that file, do you see where it says "Uncomment the following entry..."?
14:42 anathemizatu zebra already has a Z39.50 server included, as I understand. But it seems like no data is indexed into it
14:41 jcamins anathemizatu: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=5908
14:40 jcamins anathemizatu: you just have to enable a public Z39.50 server then.
14:40 oleonard anathemizatu: So you want other libraries to be able to connect to yours using Z39.50?
14:39 anathemizatu The thing is that I try to set up a working instance of Koha for a library from Republic of Moldova. And Zebra is crucial to that library, as it has to export data using Z39.50 to other libraries from the country
14:38 jcamins anathemizatu: what is it you're trying to do, exactly?
14:38 kf but you shoudl really leave he system preference at 'don't use' nozebra
14:38 kf yes
14:38 jcamins anathemizatu: in that case, your searches are using Zebra.
14:37 kf when you use the opac or the advanced search, keyword searches in koha it will use zebra for searching
14:37 anathemizatu I search in the books catalogue, from OPAC
14:37 kf patrons search uses mysql
14:37 kf zebra is used to search the bibliographic data
14:36 kf so don't use nozebra
14:36 kf you shoudl always use zebra
14:36 kf it has been removed from the web installer even and it has bugs
14:36 kf nozebra is not recommended
14:36 kf for a first
14:36 kf I am not sure, there might be a misunderstanding about zebra and no zebra
14:35 anathemizatu But I get no search results. So that means that Zebra doesn't import the required information from koha?
14:34 anathemizatu When I search with the "noZebra" set to "Use", I get the following messages: "16:27:46-08/11 zebrasrv(1) [log] dict_lookup_grep: (\x01\x0B)(l(i|\xC3\xAD|\xC3\xAC|\xC3\xAE|\xE1\xBB\x8B|\xC4\xA9|\xC4\xAD|\xC4\xAF|\xC7\x90|\xC8\x89|\xC8\x8B)t(e|\xC3\xA9|\xC3\xA8|\xC3\xAA|\xE1\xBA\xBD|\xC4\x95|\xC4\x99|\xC4\x97|\xC4\x9B|\xC8\x85|\xC8\x87)r(a|\xC3\xA1|\xC3\xA0|\xC3\xA3|\xC3\xA5|\xC3\xA2|\xC4\x83|\xC4\x85|\xC8\xA7|\xC7\x8E|\xC8\x81|\xC8\x83)t(u|\xC3\xBA|\xC
14:33 anathemizatu I set up a primitive way to test Zebra connectivity: I don "koha-stop-zebra" and afterwards start the zebra server manually:"zebrasrv -f /etc/koha/sites/libtest2/koha-conf.xml". The idea is that when "NoZebra" is set to "Don't Use", I get the search results as they should be. But I get no messages in Zebra
14:27 jcamins (but the records are retrieved from MySQL for everything other than the search results page)
14:26 jcamins anathemizatu: Zebra is used for all searches of records.
14:21 anathemizatu Onw more question: How can I find out when Koha uses mysql and when the information indexed from zebra?
14:19 jcamins oleonard: 3.00.04.103 = 3.0.4. (I think the last part is 103... it's something like that, anyway)
14:18 oleonard (someone please correct me if I'm wrong)
14:18 oleonard 3.00.04 = 3.04
14:17 oleonard 3.04.05 = 3.4.5
14:17 oleonard The numbering scheme can be confusing
14:17 jcamins I'm probably going to wait until 3.6.1 to switch to the 3.6 branch.
14:17 anathemizatu Ok. I thought that 3.04 is different from 3.4. Sorry
14:16 jcamins That's the version I'm running.
14:16 jcamins anathemizatu: no, that sounds like a good version.
14:16 maximep 3.4.5 is recent. Probably no packages of 3.6 yet
14:15 anathemizatu So I guess that I should first upgrade to some more recent version manually
14:14 anathemizatu 1. The Koha version that I get is: "Server information Koha version: 3.04.05.000", event though I installed it from debian repozitory on squeeze.
14:07 jcamins anathemizatu: presumably there is a problem you're trying to solve?
14:06 jcamins (don't use NoZebra)
14:06 jcamins anathemizatu: you're not going to find much about Koha and Zebra integration as such because right now Koha's indexing engine is Zebra. Period. So it's integrated in the same way that MySQL is integrated: it has to be used.
14:05 jcamins anathemizatu: with the packages Zebra is configured for you.
14:04 jcamins anathemizatu: ^^
14:04 wahanui well, manual is at http://www.koha-community.org/documentation
14:04 jcamins manual?
14:04 anathemizatu I'll try 3.6, thanks. I just wanted to get more information about koha and zebra integration, as i cannot find any suitable information for me. Can you please give me some links to good documentation?
14:04 jcamins (this is good news:)
14:03 jcamins anathemizatu: there are no packages for 3.0. Check, but I suspect you installed 3.6, which has the version number "3.6.0"
14:01 * oleonard is not a packages guy
14:01 * oleonard wonders if you get 3.6 if you look for the stable version now
14:00 oleonard That is probably slightly out of date with the release of 3.6.0.
14:00 oleonard http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.4_on_Debian_Squeeze
13:59 anathemizatu Are there .deb packages for the new version or i'll have to install it manually?
13:58 nengard anathemizatu you're going to want to get a newer version of Koha - 3.0 isn't supported anymore - 3.6 or 3.4.5 would be best
13:57 anathemizatu Hello everybody. I have a question: I have installed Koha 3.0 with Debian Squeeze, as a .deb package. And can
13:26 wahanui hmmm... quote #107: "<kmkale> This is a food channel. Sometimes we discuss Koha too ;)" (added by jwagner at 02:49 PM, November 29, 2010)
13:26 jcamins quote #107: "<kmkale> This?
13:25 kf lol
13:25 wahanui this is a pizza topping
13:25 jcamins this?
13:22 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn.
13:22 huginn kf: Quote #107: "<kmkale> This is a food channel. Sometimes we discuss Koha too ;)" (added by jwagner at 02:49 PM, November 29, 2010)
13:22 kf @quote random
12:56 huginn jwagner: Quote #2: "<jwagner> Hope springs eternal in little kitty hearts. Better watch the doors :-)" (added by gmcharlt at 04:04 PM, June 03, 2009)
12:56 jwagner @quote random
12:49 jcamins_away o/
12:46 kmkale :)
12:46 huginn kmkale: Quote #24: "<kmkale> interesting word munin. in many indian languages we have a word munim who used to be a sort of accountant for all businessmen" (added by gmcharlt at 02:07 PM, August 07, 2009)
12:46 kmkale @quote random
12:46 huginn kmkale: Quote #135: "rangi: $tempate->{VARS}->{'LoginBranchname'} - without the typo" (added by cait at 07:30 PM, May 20, 2011)
12:46 kmkale @quote random
12:10 kf hi magnuse :)
12:06 Amit_Gupta heya kf
12:01 magnuse guten tag kf
11:58 kf hi #koha
09:32 huginn slef: The operation succeeded.
09:32 slef @later tell BobB No, I wasn't. Sorry. You can leave messages for me and I do usually see them before too long :)
09:04 Oak :) kia ora #koha
09:04 magnuse Oak
09:04 Oak magnuse
08:11 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 6.0�C (8:50 AM CET on November 08, 2011). Conditions: Light Drizzle. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 5.0�C. Windchill: 4.0�C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady).
08:11 magnuse @wunder boo
08:06 huginn kmkale: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 34.0�C (1:10 PM IST on November 08, 2011). Conditions: Smoke. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 22.0�C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Falling).
08:06 kmkale @weather Mumbai
08:01 wahanui privet, reiveune
08:01 reiveune hello
08:01 rangi yeah :)
08:00 magnuse and maybe we could have some modular way to include code for enhanced content too...
07:56 rangi yup
07:56 magnuse btw: i have been thinking maybe e could do more enhanced content for the opac with ajax, to increase the responsiveness of the pages themselves and to get less feature bloat...
07:54 alex_a hi magnuse rangi
07:52 magnuse bonjour alex_a
07:51 magnuse i have played a little with koha and ajax before - i have an opac that fetches and displays data from freebase, but there seems to be some problem at the moment...
07:51 rangi hi alex_a
07:50 alex_a hi
07:49 magnuse jquery++
07:48 rangi jquery rules
07:48 rangi that 2nd one is better
07:48 rangi http://api.jquery.com/jQuery.getJSON/
07:47 rangi http://api.jquery.com/jQuery.parseJSON/
07:47 cait ok, bbiab
07:47 * cait adds a note to teach cait about your findings
07:47 * magnuse makes a note to investigate templates in js further
07:45 magnuse rangi++ definitely
07:45 rangi but ill do that tomorrow
07:45 magnuse yeah, that's a good idea
07:45 rangi so that its fast to display
07:45 cait rangi++ :)
07:45 rangi is add an option to cache
07:45 rangi so now all i need to do
07:45 magnuse made of awesome
07:45 rangi and can create a report to give whatever data you want
07:45 magnuse and it builds on existing functionality!
07:45 rangi easily
07:45 rangi well its json, so you can whatever you want to it in jquery
07:44 magnuse and it's so flexible!
07:44 cait hm slightly warmer than yesterday
07:44 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 7.6�C (8:39 AM CET on November 08, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 97%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Windchill: 8.0�C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1016.5 hPa (Steady).
07:44 rangi whatever
07:44 cait @wunder Konstanz
07:44 magnuse new patrons ;-)
07:44 rangi issues stats
07:44 * cait drools
07:44 rangi new orders
07:44 rangi new serials received
07:44 rangi yep, new books
07:44 rangi changing the id, and the url of course
07:44 magnuse it'll be perfect for showing "new books" etc on the front page
07:44 rangi });
07:43 rangi $.get("/cgi-bin/event_homepage.pl", function(data){ document.getElementById("eventsInner").innerHTML = data;
07:43 magnuse :-)
07:43 cait because of the distance
07:43 cait I will perhaps hear it in a few seconds
07:43 cait hm
07:42 magnuse did you hear that? it was the sound of my head exploding!
07:42 rangi <div id='blah'></div>
07:42 rangi you do something like
07:42 rangi and show it anywhere you want on the opac
07:42 magnuse yay
07:42 rangi whcih means that now you can ajax the output of any report
07:42 cait now you only have to teach us how to make that pretty :)
07:42 magnuse ooh, very cool!
07:41 rangi that you have marked as 'public'
07:41 rangi you can pass an id of any report
07:41 magnuse a ha! ;-)
07:41 rangi its JSON
07:40 magnuse huh? [["Database management / Bstan-ʼdzin-rgya-mtsho"],["this title has a < and \" and a & in it"],["Anvil of stars /"],["He Pa Auroa :"],["Good omens /"]]
07:39 rangi magnuse: http://opac.koha.workbuffer.org/cgi-bin/koha/svc/report?id=6
07:39 magnuse hiya cait!
07:35 cait good morning magnuse :)
07:35 magnuse namaskar #koha
06:54 rangi :)
06:53 joann if i get cut off - adious
06:53 joann right - shall try carrying this to other end of the terminal and continue typing at the gate
06:52 rangi cool
06:52 joann we did a round table at dinner last night about what we each 'learnt - and it was pretty universal.
06:51 joann I have a blog post ready to go - and plan to write one about my overall reflections on kjohacon
06:51 joann its me now :)
06:50 cait be fair and share :)
06:50 cait yep
06:50 rangi :)
06:49 rangi i hope you are planning to do write ups for the koha-community site
06:49 rangi thats good
06:49 brooke I have so many faces to go with names now :D
06:49 brooke conference was wonderful
06:49 brooke but seriously
06:48 brooke it shall be the hardest thing I've ever done ;)
06:48 cait wow, tht sounds hard
06:47 brooke now I'm going to have to sit near her on the plane and pretend to like her ;)
06:47 brooke can you believe that they had the nerve to seat me near that ratbag?
06:47 brooke aye
06:47 Judit1 cait :D
06:47 rangi same for jo?
06:47 brooke but boards in 16ish
06:47 brooke 1pm dep
06:47 brooke Ummm 16 minutesish
06:47 * cait imagines that transformation
06:45 rangi whens ur flight brooke ?
06:45 kmkale gotta run. catch you later
06:44 kmkale :( missing you all already
06:40 cait hi jransom :) safe travels to you all! :)
06:40 jransom heya Judit
06:38 Judit1 that is a long list :)
06:37 jransom but you missed hugging brooke and me and paul and francois and ian and ruth and julian good bye
06:37 jransom no - I'm still here :)
06:35 kmkale missed ya :(
06:35 kmkale ouch
06:32 jransom we are at Mumbai airport
06:32 jransom Koustabha !! kia ora
05:52 Judit1 i did, but google is not my friend today
05:52 cait Judit1: perhaps try google for more :)
05:51 Judit1 thanks
05:51 cait Judit1: I thought there was more documentation... http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Support_for_multiple_PAC_interfaces_by_URL_RFC
05:50 cait let me find the wiki page
05:50 cait but I have never tried it
05:49 cait there is a way to do it
05:49 cait hmm
05:48 Judit1 can i have 2 different opacs for my 2 branches?
05:48 Judit1 hm
05:46 Judit1 hi cait
05:45 cait hi Amit_Gupta and Judit1
05:44 Amit_Gupta heya cait
05:41 Judit1 hi rea
04:49 wizzyrea hi everybody :)
04:47 cait hi kmkale and Amit_Gupta
04:45 kmkale hi cait wizzyrea :)
04:44 kmkale hi Amit_Gupta
04:44 kmkale rangi: nope. no rest. though I am bone tired, there is tons of work pending as I did not get any chance during the week :(
04:40 wizzyrea 10:30, not so late
04:39 cait isn't it late for you?
04:39 cait morning liz
04:39 wizzyrea mornin cait
04:29 rangi hi kmkale, getting some rest now its all over?
04:29 Amit_Gupta heya kmkale
04:29 kmkale Namaskaar #koha :)
04:04 Amit_Gupta heya wahanui
04:00 wahanui bonjour, Judit
04:00 Judit hi
03:59 Amit_Gupta heya Judit
03:58 Judit ?
03:58 Judit do you have the date for kohacon 2012
03:17 Amit_Gupta heya bg
03:11 Amit_Gupta heya chris
01:20 rangi cya tomorrow
01:16 * eythian isleaving on a jet plane
01:06 rangi oh true
01:05 eythian yeah
01:05 eythian I remember the name 'emery' from way back when, too.
01:05 rangi i think helping him to install koha is not actually helping him
01:05 rangi yes
01:05 eythian really needs someone who knows computers to do it.
01:05 rangi i think he is not cutting and pasting
01:05 rangi that's pretty much the sum total of the last 4 days of asking for help
01:04 eythian he tried last time I saw, but failed
01:04 rangi i count 5 ppl have told him to use the packages now
01:04 rangi heh
01:03 Small_2 bye
01:03 Small_2 i'll come back tomorrow
01:02 Small_2 :(
01:02 eythian i can't help then
01:02 eythian oh
01:01 Small_2 and it broke
01:01 Small_2 then i upgraded to 3.06
01:01 Small_2 it worked fine
01:01 Small_2 i did not install, used Koha Live Cd
01:01 eythian you installed the packages right?
00:59 Small_2 sudo: koha-rebuild-zebra: command not found
00:59 Small_2 ok
00:58 eythian use sudo, it's a system command
00:57 Small_2 where should i run it?
00:57 Small_2 says koha-rebuild-zebra: command not found
00:56 huginn moodaepo: The current temperature in MSU Physics Dept, Mankato, Minnesota is 8.1�C (6:54 PM CST on November 07, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: -1.0�C. Windchill: 8.0�C. Pressure: 30.20 in 1022.6 hPa (Steady).
00:56 moodaepo @wunder 56001
00:56 * moodaepo heads home
00:56 Small_2 ok
00:55 eythian look in the documentation for koha-rebuild-zebra
00:55 Small_2 well, searches still dont work
00:55 Small_2 ok
00:55 moodaepo Cool now you have reached the limit of my koha knowledge
00:54 moodaepo Right try /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -w
00:54 Small_2 and it ran with no errors
00:54 Small_2 root@emery-Aspire-T690:/usr/share/koha/bin# migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -w
00:54 Small_2 i did this
00:53 Small_2 but that says file not found
00:53 Small_2 misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -w
00:53 Small_2 it says to run,
00:53 Small_2 in the manual
00:53 moodaepo Try it and see.
00:53 Small_2 should i?
00:52 Small_2 nope
00:52 moodaepo Have you tried running the rebuild/reindex when the command line looks like that?
00:52 Small_2 -bash: /root/.bashrc: No such file or directory
00:52 Small_2 oops
00:52 Small_2 root@emery-Aspire-T690:
00:52 Small_2 But now we have a new problem
00:52 Small_2 root@emery-Aspire-T690:
00:51 Small_2 now it says
00:51 Small_2 i did sudo -i with the bashrc line
00:51 Small_2 oops
00:51 Small_2 oh
00:51 moodaepo Yea that's not right, when I do "sudo -i" I see root@koha
00:50 Small_2 emery@emery-Aspire-T690:
00:50 moodaepo Small_2: In command line does it say root@koha at the beginning of the line? If not what does it say?
00:49 Small_2 anyone?
00:46 Small_2 -bash: /home/emery/.bashrc: Permission denied
00:46 Small_2 says
00:46 Small_2 :(
00:45 moodaepo Small_2: I don't think I can think of why you are getting permission denied
00:45 eythian Auckland is always a fight.
00:45 Small_2 heh
00:45 eythian In Auckland.
00:45 Small_2 where did moodaepo go?
00:45 Judit what do you mean your last fight? how many did you beat up so far
00:45 rangi hmm auckland or christchurch is my guess
00:44 Judit haha:) true
00:44 Small_2 fight?
00:44 Judit where are you? still in india?
00:43 eythian phew, now awaiting my last fight home. Sick of planes already.
00:43 Small_2 :(
00:43 Small_2 Still, Permission Denied
00:42 moodaepo Yea after sudo -i
00:42 Small_2 Do i use sudo
00:42 Small_2 Permission Denied
00:41 moodaepo No only stuff within the quotes
00:41 moodaepo After that ". ~/.bashrc"
00:40 Small_2 with the ""'s?
00:40 Small_2 ok
00:39 moodaepo Try this "echo "export PERL5LIB=/usr/share/koha/lib:\$PERL5LIB" >> ~/.bashrc"
00:39 wahanui somebody said the was a stop word
00:39 Small_2 the what?
00:39 moodaepo I think the ENV is not set right.
00:39 Small_2 it says file not found
00:38 Small_2 sudo -i
00:38 Small_2 but if i go
00:38 Judit http://rebuild_zebra.pl/ -b -a -z
00:38 Small_2 and it errors with the perrmissions problem
00:38 Small_2 i run perl rebuild_zebra.pl
00:38 Small_2 well
00:38 Small_2 haha
00:38 moodaepo I'm not really a koha user just hang out here for the cool people
00:37 moodaepo Small_2: Isn't it just "perl rebuild_zebra.pl"
00:36 Small_2 what is the options to run with it again?
00:33 Small_2 ok
00:33 moodaepo Right but try it differently, do "sudo -i" and then run your reindex
00:32 Small_2 because sudo = root, right?
00:31 Small_2 so i was doing it right then
00:31 Small_2 ok
00:31 moodaepo Small_2: Sorry I take that back I think the live cd runs koha as root
00:27 Small_2 are you there
00:26 Small_2 sudo: unknown user: koha
00:24 Small_2 sudo -u koha says the user koha does not exist
00:24 moodaepo Small_2: Ok the user which runs koha in the live cd is....koha
00:16 Small_2 heh
00:16 moodaepo Nope 75% done...and the roofing tar is getting nauseous. Ugh
00:15 Small_2 is it almost done?
00:07 Small_2 from source forge
00:07 Small_2 I am using the Koha Live Cd
00:07 Small_2 oh
00:07 Small_2 yes, so i downloaded that, then i upgraded it 3.06 and searches broke
00:06 moodaepo Small_2: This http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Live_CD_%28No_Install_Option%29 is different from http://sourceforge.net/projects/kohalivecd/ which one are you using?
00:06 Small_2 ok
00:05 moodaepo Small_2: Yea downloading the iso and just found your email to the live cd list, except I think that's a different one (I might be wrong)
00:03 Small_2 Are you there>
00:00 Small_2 and my searches are broken
00:00 Small_2 then i upgraded to 3.06
00:00 Small_2 yes