Time Nick Message
03:06 Amit_Gupta heya julian_m
03:06 wahanui Good luck getting ten words out of this one...
03:06 julian_m hi Amit_Gupta
03:13 eythian that's two words...
03:24 Amit_Gupta heya paul_p good morning
03:26 paul_p hello Amit_Gupta !
03:28 druthb @karma Brooke
03:28 huginn druthb: Karma for "Brooke" has been increased 29 times and decreased 2 times for a total karma of 27.
03:29 druthb Brooke++ #just because
03:29 Danielle druthb++ # ;)
03:29 jcamins_away druthb: isn't it rather late?
03:29 druthb 0900.
03:30 jcamins_away Oh, it's tomorrow already?
03:30 jcamins_away Yikes!
03:30 druthb it is, here. :)
03:30 * wizzyrea yawns
03:30 druthb !
03:30 wizzyrea :)
03:31 * druthb sees wizzyrea and squees happily
03:31 wizzyrea how are ya
03:31 * Danielle is figuring out public transit options. Wild Saturday night here in Durham...
03:31 druthb Do you want the 10K+ word answer, or the short one, wizzyrea?
03:31 wizzyrea hm, the medium length version?
03:32 druthb If I was any better, local police would think I'm up to something, and detain me. Aside from a case of traveler's trots-- :P --I'm giddily happy.
03:32 wizzyrea :D nice!
03:33 * druthb needs to get a pic of kmkale in his kurta today; he looks *magnificent*.
03:33 wizzyrea hehe nice
03:34 jcamins_away quickbooks-- # installing software shouldn't be this hard.
03:34 wizzyrea oy, quickbooks has also given me fits the many times I've installed it
03:35 wizzyrea it's never the same twice
03:35 Danielle They too write non-deterministic software, eh?
03:35 jcamins_away Actually, let's acknowledge the real root of the problem:
03:35 jcamins_away windows--
03:35 wizzyrea accounting also follows the rule of
03:35 wizzyrea @quote get 123
03:35 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011)
03:36 wizzyrea s/library/accounting
03:36 jcamins_away I don't know, accounting doesn't seem so completely illogical. Just quickbooks.
03:37 wizzyrea clearly you haven't been looking at the books of most wall street firms recently
03:37 wizzyrea or maybe you have O.o
03:37 wizzyrea definitely some creative, mad schemes there
03:38 jcamins_away wizzyrea: oh, yeah, _there_ one could find mad schemes.
03:41 small Help?
03:42 * small needs help
03:42 small I am stuck on the install part
03:42 small i have been fallowing the manual, but now i am stuck
03:42 small i am on, 2.3 Test your SAX Paraser
03:42 small i type in cd koha
03:43 small but koha does not exist :/
03:43 jcamins_away Then you need to cd to the directory where you downloaded Koha to.
03:43 jcamins_away What version of Koha?
03:43 eythian http://www.pagetable.com/docs/gate_a20.jpg <-- now there's a sign worth stealing
03:44 jcamins_away Gate A20? Does that mean something I don't recognize?
03:44 wizzyrea or the need help in the background?
03:45 eythian you people have no sense of history!
03:45 eythian http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gate_A20#A20_gate
03:45 wizzyrea ohhh
03:46 small oh
03:46 small Hello
03:46 eythian what were you doing when the rest of us were poking away in asm on a 286?
03:46 small So i cd to where i downloaded koha to
03:46 small I put it on my desktop
03:46 small i am going to try that
03:46 wizzyrea probably playing liberator on my Tandy TRS80
03:46 jcamins_away small: yes, but what version of Koha?
03:46 jcamins_away small: also, where are you getting your directions from?
03:47 small i am getting them from the install.ubuntu file
03:47 small i have the latest version
03:47 small 3.06
03:48 small Ok
03:48 Brooke o1
03:48 small Here is another question
03:48 small I ran the misc/sax_praser_print.pl
03:48 small line, and it says that it is BAD
03:48 small what do i do?
03:48 jcamins_away small: is that 3.6.0 or 3.0.6?
03:49 small 3.06.00.000 is the folder name
03:49 jcamins_away Okay, good. :)
03:49 small :) Yay
03:49 small but,
03:49 jcamins_away small: the instructions in install.debian are a little bit more clear.
03:49 small ok, i will look there
03:49 jcamins_away small: but, bigger question: why aren't you using packages?
03:49 small what do you mean?
03:50 sandeepbhavsar Kohacon11 news in DNA at http://epaper.dnaindia.com/epapermain.aspx?edorsup=Sup&queryed=37&querypage=7&boxid=30762914&parentid=153604&eddate=11/05/2011
03:50 jcamins_away small: there are .deb packages for installing Koha.
03:50 small oh, is that easyer?
03:50 jcamins_away So much easier!
03:50 jcamins_away What version of Ubuntu are you on?
03:51 small 10.10
03:51 small just a sec
03:51 small moving to other computer
03:52 small527 I am here
03:52 small527 So what are these .deb packages?
03:52 small527 and how do i use them?
03:52 jcamins_away http://debian.koha-community.org/koha/README
03:53 jcamins_away Wait, no, rangi said there's an even better thing.
03:53 small527 ok, i will wait
03:53 jcamins_away https://launchpad.net/~koha/+archive/ppa
03:53 jcamins_away I don't know exactly how to use that, but I guess Ubuntu people do.
03:54 small527 ok
03:54 small527 hmm
03:54 small527 i will look at that
03:54 jcamins_away I always added the line: deb http://debian.koha-community.org/koha squeeze-dev main
03:54 jcamins_away to my /etc/apt/sources.list file,
03:54 jcamins_away Ran sudo apt-get update
03:54 jcamins_away And sudo apt-get install koha-common
03:55 small527 and that works?
03:55 small527 Maybe i should just keep doing it manuly
03:55 jcamins_away Yes, that works perfectly.
03:56 jcamins_away small527: you ran into a problem on step 2 installing it manually. ;)
03:56 small527 That is true
03:56 small527 ok, i'll try taht
03:56 jcamins_away And I'm about to go to sleep, so you'll probably be on your own until Monday.
03:56 small527 ok, i'll try that
03:56 jcamins_away ;)
03:56 wizzyrea i guarantee that manual install doesn't get easier
03:56 small527 haha, ok
03:56 * small527 is off to do that
03:57 wizzyrea ok, either there is lots of wind
03:57 small527 lol
03:57 wizzyrea or I just felt an earthquake?
03:57 wizzyrea how is that even possible
03:57 small527 :o
04:00 small527 Anyone still here?
04:00 small527 I have a problem with jcamons idea
04:01 small527 W: GPG error: http://debian.koha-community.org squeeze-dev Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 14D36485A99CEB6D
04:02 small527 Anyone?
04:02 wahanui Anyone is using tags ? Trying to use them in master in opac-detail.pl and they seem completly broken to me :S
04:03 small527 What?
04:03 small527 wizzyrea
04:03 wahanui I LIKE BAO or all about the resluts
04:03 small527 I think he is a bot
04:05 Brooke wahanui is a bot
04:05 Brooke wahanui forget anyone
04:05 wahanui Brooke: I forgot anyone
04:05 small527 lol
04:05 eythian small527: wget -O- http://debian.koha-community.org/koha/gpg.asc | sudo apt-key add -
04:05 small527 ok, thankss
04:05 eythian small527: from the instructions here: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.4_on_Debian_Squeeze
04:06 small527 oops
04:06 eythian Brooke: forget forget
04:06 eythian Brooke: you forgot the forget rule.
04:06 wizzyrea why yes, in fact there was just an earthquake in kansas.
04:06 small527 :o
04:07 wizzyrea 4.7 in Oklahoma, maybe 4 hours away?
04:07 druthb yowza!
04:07 wizzyrea but I and lots others here def felt it
04:07 small527 It is not letting me copy that code
04:07 wizzyrea lol now they say it was 5.8 in Oklahoma
04:07 eythian <5.0 != earthquake
04:07 wizzyrea !!!
04:08 * small527 goes to do it manuly :(
04:08 wizzyrea here it does
04:08 wizzyrea lol
04:08 eythian small527: what won't let you copy what?
04:08 eythian if you can't copy-paste, you're going to have bigger problems.
04:09 wizzyrea eythian: http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsus/Maps/US2/35.37.-98.-96.php
04:09 sekjal wizzyrea: but everyone's okay? no damage you can see?
04:09 wizzyrea oh no definitely not here
04:09 wizzyrea was just a jiggle here
04:09 wizzyrea just enough to make me think I was losing my mind.
04:09 eythian http://www.geonet.org.nz/earthquake/drums/mqz-drum.html <-- quiet day in NZ
04:09 small527 :o
04:10 * eythian one-ups ;)
04:10 wizzyrea showoff ;)
04:10 small527 i enterd that WGET line, and it glithced my terminal
04:10 eythian what do you mean?
04:11 small527 it showed random charecter symbols everywhere
04:11 small527 then said,
04:11 small527 62: command not found
04:11 small527 9: command not found
04:11 small527 c: command not found
04:11 eythian I think you may have pasted the wrong thing
04:11 small527 and the line i put in was
04:12 small527 wget -O- http://debian.koha-community.org/koha/gpg.asc
04:12 small527 the few lines after my command was
04:12 eythian wait
04:12 eythian you didn't paste the right thing
04:12 small527 oh
04:12 eythian paste the whole line
04:12 eythian not just half of it
04:12 small527 oh
04:12 small527 ok
04:13 eythian otherwise, it'll display random character symbols everywhere and glitch your terminal :)
04:13 small527 lol, thats what it did
04:14 eythian wizzyrea: spend a year here, and that sort of thing'll be normal ;)
04:14 small527 i think its working now
04:14 eythian cool
04:14 small527 yes
04:14 eythian it should just say 'OK' I think
04:14 small527 i geuss
04:14 small527 it just said,
04:14 small527 Saving to: `STDOUT'
04:14 small527 100%[===========================================================================>] 26,919 66.2K/s in 0.4s
04:15 small527 2011-11-05 21:12:14 (66.2 KB/s) - written to stdout [26919/26919]
04:15 small527 then nothing
04:15 small527 just a empty box
04:15 eythian what did you paste?
04:15 small527 is it still getting it?
04:15 small527 user@ubuntu-server:/etc/apt$ wget -O- http://debian.koha-community.org/koha/gpg.asc | sudo apt-key add -
04:16 eythian ah right
04:16 eythian I just checked
04:16 eythian it should say that, and then say 'OK'
04:16 eythian is it perhaps asking your password?
04:16 eythian (although, probably not if you've used sudo recently)
04:16 small527 it hasn't said anything
04:16 small527 i have used it lots
04:16 eythian are you back at your prompt?
04:16 small527 no
04:16 small527 i just pushed enter, now it says
04:16 small527 OK
04:16 small527 then my promt
04:17 eythian then you're good
04:17 small527 i did the sudo apt-get update and that worked
04:17 eythian sweet as
04:18 small527 and now that install koa common thing
04:18 small527 lets see!\
04:18 small527 :(
04:18 small527 IT errors
04:18 small527 Broken Packages
04:18 small527 :'(
04:19 eythian what's broken?
04:19 wahanui i guess broken is what we want, for teaching purposes
04:19 small527 oh noes
04:19 eythian no wahanui, broken is not what we want.
04:19 small527 here is what is broken
04:19 wahanui okay, eythian.
04:19 small527 The following packages have unmet dependencies: koha-common: Depends: libhttp-oai-perl but it is not installable Depends: liblocale-currency-format-perl but it is not installable Depends: libmemoize-memcached-perl but it is not installable Depends: libpdf-api2-simple-perl but it is not installable Depends: libtext-csv-encoded-perl but it is not installable
04:19 eythian hmm.
04:19 eythian wait
04:19 small527 ok
04:20 eythian http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.2_on_Debian_Squeeze#Other_packages <-- small, these are what you need
04:20 * eythian needs to update that URL to be 3.6
04:21 small ok, what do i do with them>
04:21 eythian download them and install them
04:21 small ok
04:24 small 404
04:25 small on the download, libtext-csv-perl_1.17-1_all.deb
04:25 sekjal may disappear briefly; will be back
04:26 eythian http://debian.catalyst.net.nz/debian/pool/main/libt/libtext-csv-perl/libtext-csv-perl_1.21-1_all.deb
04:26 * eythian updates the wiki
04:26 * druthb may disappear briefly, as well.
04:27 small That file says i have broken dependicies
04:28 small nevermind
04:28 small i fixed it
04:28 small Now what do i do?
04:29 small Now what do i do?
04:29 small eythain
04:29 small eythain
04:29 small Now what do i do?
04:30 eythian small: you'll have to be more specific
04:31 small well, i did what he said
04:31 small now how do i install koha
04:31 small what do i do after that?
04:32 eythian you said you have broken dependencies. You'll have to fix those.
04:32 small i did
04:32 small :p
04:32 eythian well then, try to install koha-common
04:32 small i did that
04:32 small that worked fine
04:33 small Now what?
04:34 eythian have you read the rest of the information on that page that tells you what you need to do?
04:34 small what one?
04:34 wahanui i think one is readyish, it has had qa and some feedback provided, if you wanted to respond to the questions in that feedback then that branch could be merged
04:34 wizzyrea forget one
04:34 wahanui wizzyrea: I forgot one
04:34 small :o
04:35 small forgget you
04:35 small forget you
04:35 wahanui small: I forgot you
04:35 small Yay
04:35 small lol
04:35 wizzyrea oo oo oo
04:35 small forget everything
04:35 wahanui small: I forgot everything
04:36 small lolollopolololololololol
04:36 wizzyrea small: wahanui keeps good stuff for us
04:36 wizzyrea it's best to not make him forget stuff unless it's wrong.
04:36 small Oh, but it id fun, lol
04:36 small and that ethain guy ran away
04:37 wizzyrea but please don't, ok?
04:38 small ok
04:38 small do you know what to do with this, https://launchpad.net/~koha/+archive/ppa
04:40 small do you know what to do with this, https://launchpad.net/~koha/+archive/ppa
04:40 small eythain, i dont know what to do
04:41 wizzyrea http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_Lucid_using_Koha_packages
04:41 eythian I'm not sure how the ppa differs from the debian.k-c.org packages. Possibly more Ubuntu specific, but they'll be virtually identical I think
04:42 small i dont know anything about those
04:42 eythian that guide says to install the 'koha' package, rather than koha-common. That's not a good idea at the moment.
04:42 eythian wizzyrea: ^
04:42 wizzyrea ah,perhaps it should be updated
04:42 eythian small: then ignore it, and just follow the information on the page I sent you before
04:43 small which one?
04:43 wahanui which one is it
04:43 eythian the wiki page about using the debian packages
04:43 wizzyrea he's on ubuntu
04:44 eythian yeah
04:44 eythian but they're very close
04:44 wizzyrea *nod*
04:44 eythian the main difference is those dependencies, and that's been taken care of
04:44 small so what one? can you give me the link again please
04:44 eythian http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.2_on_Debian_Squeeze
04:44 small thanks
04:45 wizzyrea oh good I didn't realize that had been taken care of
04:45 wizzyrea duly noted
04:47 druthb1 hi, jransom!
04:47 eythian Y'know, I think we need an auto-provisioning pay-by-paypal type koha setup for people to use when they're trying to set up stuff like that, and can't.
04:48 jransom hiya
04:48 wizzyrea it only costs $50 and your root password ;)
04:48 jransom a full class room down here
04:49 wizzyrea hi jransom
04:49 jransom Marijana and Anjali are a great team
04:49 jransom waves at Liz
04:50 Brooke Marijana + just about anyone = good team
04:50 Brooke Marijana++
04:51 small Anyone still here?
04:51 small i needs help again
04:51 small sudo a2enmod rewrite -- Fails
04:52 small (13)Permission denied: make_sock: could not bind to address 0.0.0.0:80 no listening sockets available, shutting down Unable to open logs
04:52 eythian that's pretty weird
04:52 small yes
04:53 small also says
04:53 small apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName
04:53 eythian I'd ask your sysadmin or something, that looks like a systems problem of some sort.
04:53 eythian that last one's OK
04:53 small i am the "system admin" lol
04:54 small so what do i do :(
04:54 eythian ah. erm. Good luck then... :) I have no idea why apache would have trouble binding a socket.
04:55 wizzyrea maybe you don't have a listening port in your ports.conf
04:55 small ahhh
04:55 small i found out why
04:55 small didn't put sudo infront of the line, hehe , oops
04:56 eythian OK, when you paste your commands, always paste your actual command
04:56 eythian otherwise mistakes won't get noticed.
04:56 eythian (the first thing I looked for was 'is sudo being used', and it looked like it was)
04:57 small oops, ok
04:57 small i just googled the error and it came up
04:59 mtj_mumbai http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=887632
04:59 wizzyrea ohsnap
05:00 small umm
05:00 small it says to do,
05:00 small koha-email-enable
05:00 small but it always errors, no such file or directpry
05:00 small but it always errors, no such file or directory
05:00 small :/
05:00 eythian design questions: I have a function in addbiblio.pl that I also want to use from openlibrary.pl. It's generating URLs, so shouldn't go in to the backend, is there somewhere suitable to put these kinds of things so I don't have to copy-pasta it?
05:01 small + what do i do now?
05:01 eythian http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Commands_provided_by_the_Debian_packages#E-mail <-- read the documentation
05:01 small thanks
05:02 small errors command not founr
05:02 small errors command not found
05:03 eythian we don't know what you are doing
05:03 small koha-koha-email-enable instance1 instance2
05:03 small koha-koha-email-enable: command not found
05:03 small :/
05:03 eythian umm
05:04 eythian there's a fundamental bit of understanding missing there.
05:04 small uh oh
05:04 eythian 'instance1' and 'instance2' are the names of the instances you created.
05:04 small i did?
05:04 eythian they're not supposed to be literal
05:04 small oh
05:04 small What are they then
05:04 small koha?
05:04 wahanui well, koha is a free software ils see http://koha-community.org for more info
05:05 eythian no, they're the name of the instance you gave to koha-create
05:05 rangi also its koha-enable
05:05 small ... umm
05:05 rangi not koha-koha-enable
05:05 * wizzyrea startles at the rangi signting
05:05 eythian that too
05:05 small what is default?
05:05 wahanui default is ports for those who dont have access/skills to run dns
05:05 eythian there is no default
05:05 rangi heh
05:05 small oh
05:05 small what do people normaly put?
05:05 eythian the name of their library.
05:06 eythian but I suspect you haven't tried to create one yet, or you wouldn't be asking these questions.
05:06 small oh, i think i put Mylibary
05:06 small probably
05:06 small how do i create one?
05:06 wizzyrea koha-create mylibrary
05:06 eythian sudo koha-create --create-db mylibrary
05:07 wizzyrea ^ sorry
05:07 * wizzyrea is sleepy
05:07 eythian :)
05:07 * eythian returns to making openlibrary stuff go. There is more documentation around to get you going, if you follow links etc.
05:08 small that works now! :D thanks
05:08 small now how do i install it>
05:08 small now how do i install it?
05:09 small ls
05:09 small oops
05:09 small now how do i install it?
05:10 mtj_mumbai sekjal paul_p -> http://wiki.dandascalescu.com/howtos/indenting_tt_and_html
05:11 sekjal thanks, mtj_mumbai!
05:11 small eythain ?
05:11 * sekjal is having a lot of fun working on ways to make Koha cleaner and more efficient
05:12 * druthb1 is having fun watching sekjal having fun.
05:12 small eythain ?
05:12 small Someone?
05:12 wahanui Someone is missing
05:12 small Anyone?
05:12 wizzyrea small: sudo koha-enable mylibrary
05:12 small ok
05:12 small now what?
05:13 wizzyrea um, visit the web page?
05:13 wizzyrea http://localhost:8080
05:13 small nothing
05:13 small Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at localhost:8080.
05:13 wizzyrea is koha running on the machine you're typing from?
05:13 small yes
05:14 wizzyrea is apache running?
05:14 small yes
05:14 small localhost works
05:14 small just not :8080
05:14 eythian it's not :8080
05:14 eythian it uses virtual hosts
05:14 small what is it?
05:14 small then what is it?
05:14 eythian it's whatever you configured it to be.
05:14 small ...
05:15 small i confiured it?
05:15 eythian and set your DNS up to point to
05:15 small i didn't do that
05:15 small how do i do that?
05:15 eythian but, if you can't do that, then you should change the apache config to work how you need it to work.
05:15 small how do i do that?
05:15 small im stupid when it comes to this
05:15 wizzyrea small: everyone's network is different
05:16 small i just want it on my localhost, inside my network
05:16 small i'll come back tomoroow
05:16 small i'll come back tomorrow
05:16 small bye
05:17 * eythian will be in a plane all day tomorrow :D
05:18 * druthb1 chuckles.
05:19 jransom oh the Ruth's glam girls just walked in - and out again
05:20 rangi best bet would be spending a week reading stuff, but thats not likely to happen
05:20 jransom (thinks she is more of a Mother hen than me ...)
05:20 Amit_Gupta heya rangi
05:20 rangi hey Amit_Gupta
05:20 jransom another 3 have turned up - thats 6 who have had to leave coz no seats
05:20 jransom actually there are seats buthard to get the pcs working
05:21 druthb1 hehehe...bet they're looking for me, by now.
05:21 jransom maybe i should go run interfecrnce in the hall and keep then coming in.
05:21 * druthb1 got led around the market like their crazy old auntie yesterday...was great fun.
05:29 jransom ah - more translators setting up next door
05:30 jransom Dobrika: how is my new baby coming along
05:31 jransom as in - am I holding you up now - should I come upstairs yet
05:32 sekjal hi rangi, jransom, Amit_Gupta!
05:32 dpavlin jransom: finished downloading, running various setup scripts from packages right now
05:32 Amit_Gupta heya sekjal
05:32 rangi heya sekjal
05:32 dpavlin jransom: next step is koha install (thus, a bit more download) and we are golden after that
05:33 jransom oh excellent. I wonder if I should come and watch the koha set up
05:33 sekjal looking to make an updated Koha LiveCD for 3.6
05:33 sekjal want to have both package and git install options
05:33 jransom will it be watching a file download or entering configuration options?
05:33 sekjal anyone know a slick way to turn a VM into a disk image?
05:33 jransom (interested in the latter -not the former)
05:34 dpavlin jransom: but shiny GUI login is allready working as I type this :-)
05:34 jransom oh -
05:34 jransom I am very very pleased - so exciting :)
05:38 eythian sekjal: I don't recommend doing it that way
05:39 eythian (as someone who has built images that way, it's a bad idea when you want to change it)
05:39 eythian My suggestion - and I've done this - is build a script that takes a stock ISO, makes the changes, and rebuilds into a new ISO
05:39 eythian then to change things, you change the script and regenerate
05:52 dpavlin coffee and tea available outside hacking room if anybody is interesetd (and in Thane ;-)
05:53 dpavlin eythian: how is this different from hacking on debian-live?
05:54 eythian because you can't reproduce what you've done from scratch with minor changes. It also means, if you want two slightly different versions for some reason, you can never resolve your forks.
06:07 dpavlin eythian: agreed.
06:08 eythian http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?p=public-sector-remix.git;a=summary <-- should anyone be interested in this sort of thing...
06:08 eythian (it's a bit dated now, mind)
06:13 sekjal @quote 123
06:13 huginn sekjal: I've exhausted my database of quotes
06:14 sekjal @quote get 123
06:14 huginn sekjal: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011)
06:15 Brooke #231 in NZ Translation http://translate.koha-community.org/en_NZ/36/translate.html?unitstates=fuzzy,untranslated should really be broken up
06:16 sekjal http://www.linux-live.org/
06:19 eythian Brooke: there are errors in the en_NZ translation that cause JS to break on the client.
06:20 Brooke well yucky
06:20 Brooke I'm just doing the best I can to do what Marijana said :D
06:20 Brooke even a yank can do catalog --> catalogue conversions ;)
06:21 eythian however, I've just added your update.
06:26 Brooke ta!
06:26 * Brooke is just barely resisting the urge to add "ta" and "ay?" to translation strings.
06:33 * Oak waves
06:39 Amit_Gupta heya Oak
06:39 Oak heya Amit_Gupta
06:40 Oak oh look Brooke is here
06:40 Brooke o/
06:40 Oak small o today, hmm
06:40 Amit_Gupta heya Brooke
06:40 Brooke Fact: The power button on this terminal is conveniently located at toe left on me left leg. XD
06:40 Amit_Gupta :D
06:47 kmkale Brooke: how is it going there?
06:48 Brooke pretty good :D
06:48 Brooke it's a full house down here which is teh awesome
06:49 Brooke looking like 2% compleat on Marathi
06:51 jransom Chris: you still about?
06:51 Amit_Gupta Good by all ;D
06:55 rangi yep
06:55 rangi but you arent
06:59 Brooke I can poke her if ye want
07:08 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5327] Unit tests required for all C4 modules <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5327>
07:10 cait hi #koha
07:10 wizzyrea hi cait
07:11 rangi why is wizzyrea still awake?
07:11 wizzyrea it's saturday
07:11 wizzyrea :)
07:11 wizzyrea and we just fell back
07:11 wizzyrea to CST
07:12 rangi ah
07:13 cait wizzyrea: go to bed :P
07:13 wizzyrea soon loves
07:15 rangi hehe
07:18 Oak hello cait
07:18 cait hi Oak :)
07:18 Oak :)
07:28 * Brooke doesn't want to go to bed, so there :P
07:29 Oak go to bed at noon?
07:30 Brooke 1ish but still :)
07:31 cait at least nobody has tried to send me to bed yet
07:31 * Brooke is not a good mummy.
08:03 cait sekjal, paul_p: around?
08:17 sekjal cait: just got back
08:17 cait ah
08:17 cait I see there is a lot of work doneon acq
08:17 paul_p cait, yep. back from lunch
08:17 cait andI am a bit worried it will crash with what oleonard and me worked on
08:18 paul_p cait, let me also ask francharb to upload his presentation
08:18 cait so perhaps we should try not to have them stay in the sign-off queue for too long
08:18 cait avoid more conflicts later on
08:18 paul_p cait, what kind of "crashing" ?
08:18 cait for examle owen did some code cleanup
08:18 cait and I did changes
08:18 cait basically all acq files were touched recently
08:18 cait waiting in your qa queue
08:19 cait conflicts I mean, when reabasing/testing
08:21 cait someone there still? :)
08:24 cait hm
08:28 paul_p cait, yep, i'm still here
08:29 paul_p (and sekjal just is sitted on my right !)
08:29 cait that's good :)
08:29 cait if I could be there too it would be easy :)
08:29 cait was telling him right now there are 14 in the signed off queue for acq
08:29 cait bug fixes mostly
08:29 cait and I hoped those could go in before the new features
08:29 cait because will need to be backported to 3.6
08:30 cait and here is bug 7113
08:30 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7113 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Standardize vendor id name in templates and scripts
08:30 cait which owen did in order to make it possible to have better navigation options later
08:32 cait so if you are working on rebasing new features now... we will likely get conflicts
08:33 cait and we need to fix some evil bugs like bug 6740
08:33 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6740 critical, P5 - low, ---, henridamien, NEW , can add items at ordering but not remove items
08:33 cait becase it breaks the workflow
08:34 cait and the suggestion not being acceptes
08:34 cait bug 6893
08:34 wahanui bug 6893 is evil :(
08:34 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6893 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, adrien.saurat, ASSIGNED , Order from suggestion does not remove suggestion from 'accepted' list
08:44 paul_p sekjal, = 7184 (mysql raiseerror) needs signoff
08:44 sekjal paul_p: awesome
08:46 paul_p sekjal, now testing (&signing) 6679 -perlcritic- submitted by rangi
08:46 rangi just need to make sure that 7184 is off by default, you never want those errors going to the browser in production
08:46 paul_p lol for chris patch 1st line = Bug 6679 : Not using strict .. bad script, no cookie for you!
08:46 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6679 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Fixing code so it passes basic Perl::Critic tests
08:47 paul_p rangi, if you haven't explictly set DEBUG 1, it won't make anything
08:47 paul_p so it's OK
08:47 rangi cool
08:47 rangi yep, dangerous otherwise
08:48 paul_p rangi, depends: I think we (BibLibre) will set it for staff, as we sometimes have tickets opened saying "I entered that, and got no results, no complain". But for OPAC, 100% agreeing with you
08:49 * rangi has just been at kiwicon, watching things get pwned thru sql injections when scripts give out too much information
08:50 rangi so will be paranoid for at least a month
08:51 cait hehe
08:52 sekjal 7085 passed QA
08:52 sekjal brb
08:52 cait bug 7085
08:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7085 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Problems with searching for orders in acquisitions
08:56 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7185] Update to 3.6 say "Koha release 3.4" <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7185> / [Bug 7184] have mysql returning errors <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7184>
09:19 Brooke o/
09:21 cait hi brooke
09:23 Oak \o
09:23 Oak who woke you up? and more importantly is he/she still alive?
09:23 kmkale hi cait :)
09:24 cait hi kmkale :)
09:24 Brooke I never went to sleep
09:24 Oak oh
09:24 Brooke Ahm in India with the cool kidses
09:28 rangi http://www.flickr.com/photos/4nitsirk/6317867186/
09:29 cait lol
09:29 cait anitsirk++
09:29 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7186] add new 'Koha Stats' tab to 'About' page <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7186>
09:32 Brooke noice
09:32 Brooke so true
09:36 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 7085 - Problems with searching for orders in acquisitions <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0c0ddf92113b4a5df6833f75ba5b7ad7527c5f48> / Follow-up fix for Bug 3958, Standardize vendor/supplier/bookseller terminology <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0038b0df15a838468bf7c23a389c260075dfd1c4>
09:36 cait whoohoo :)
09:37 Oak oleonard++
09:37 eythian @later tell anandology found some issues with the API, added details to bug 7152
09:37 huginn eythian: The operation succeeded.
09:41 jenkins_koha Starting build 514 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #491 18 j ago)
09:48 Oak magnuse
09:48 magnuse Oak
09:48 magnuse and namaskar #koha
09:50 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 1633] Add ability to take book cover images from local img db <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1633>
09:52 Oak paul_p++
09:53 sekjal wow, that's an old bug number!
09:54 cait hm which?
09:54 cait ah
09:54 magnuse and a cool feature!
09:54 Oak is it possible (yet) to install Koha on shared hosting?
09:55 cait hi magnuse :)
09:56 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6471: add tablesorter to Holds Queue <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0ea8ff7c4c81c183ba8da64d7939b041c7de8301>
09:56 magnuse guten tag cait
09:56 cait paul_p: I added a note about the date picker to bug 7182 - please use bugzilla search ;)
09:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7182 enhancement, P2, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , remove old-style date picker (calendar)
09:56 magnuse Oak: you need root/sudo access...
09:57 paul_p cait, i tried, when entering the bug (with the live search for duplicates). I missed this one it seems
09:57 cait I have werid memory for bugs
09:57 cait I knew there was one
09:58 cait I think owen even did have a demo somewhere, but didn't find it
09:58 Oak you are our ladybug cait
09:58 cait lol
09:59 Oak :)
09:59 mtj_mumbai paul_p: https://github.com/einars/js-beautify
10:00 mtj_mumbai http://jsbeautifier.org/
10:01 Oak magnuse, hmm, okay, i saw a lady working on Winisis in our university. and found out that she was "learning" Winisis because her boss (where she works in daytime) wants her to automate their library. I told her she should not be investing time and effort on Winisis. And I told her to try Koha.
10:01 cait probably an annoying ladybug then :)
10:01 mtj_mumbai http://search.cpan.org/~fayland/JavaScript-Beautifier-0.17/lib/JavaScript/Beautifier.pm
10:01 Oak not annoying!
10:01 Brooke o/
10:01 Oak \o
10:01 mtj_mumbai 'This module is mostly a Perl-rewrite of http://github.com/einars/js-beautify/tree/master/beautify.js'
10:01 cait hi again brooke
10:01 magnuse Oak++
10:02 Oak uh oh. no no magnuse.
10:02 magnuse ?
10:02 Oak she said she does not much about computers. i said
10:02 Brooke howdy
10:02 Oak I'll do it. i'll come and configure Koha on their computer.
10:02 druthb Hi, Oak and magnuse and Brooke!
10:02 magnuse yay! way to go Oak
10:02 cait Oak++
10:03 magnuse hiya druthb
10:05 * magnuse wanders off to find breakfast
10:05 Oak then I told her I can just install Koha online on one of our servers, and she can access it from there. (I did not know I'll need dedicated hosting). When I talked to my boss, he said sure, go ahead, and after a week, our hosting company will kick us out because of hogging down their servers...So now I'm learning about this stuff... :)
10:06 cait julian around?
10:07 cait paul_p or anywhere near julian_m: there is a patch for 7185
10:07 julian_m cait, ?
10:07 wahanui cait, is bywater a koha consulting group?
10:08 julian_m yes there is a patch
10:08 cait forget cait,
10:08 wahanui cait: I forgot cait,
10:08 cait julian_m: I think marcel did one
10:08 cait that watis for sign-off - was searching the bug number
10:08 francharb hey tall
10:08 cait hi francharb
10:08 francharb hey all
10:08 francharb hi cait
10:08 julian_m cait, ok i've searched too and not find it :/
10:08 francharb i just signed off this patch ;)
10:08 cait julian_m: give me a sec - I know it's there
10:08 francharb and change the status
10:08 wahanui francharb: that doesn't look right
10:09 francharb ?
10:09 Oak francharb, you meant paul? he is tall.
10:09 francharb he is
10:09 francharb ;)
10:09 cait oh yes he is
10:09 cait francharb: do you have the number?
10:09 francharb which patch are we talking about?
10:09 francharb http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7185
10:09 huginn 04Bug 7185: trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, henridamien, NEW , Update to 3.6 say "Koha release 3.4"
10:09 francharb this one?
10:10 cait ah, I am still catching up
10:10 francharb cait, i tested julian_m patch
10:10 cait quite sure marcel had one too
10:10 cait I will mark it duplicate once I find it
10:10 francharb if there is another one, i didn't see it...
10:10 cait that's what the bug wrangler is for :P
10:10 francharb oki cait !
10:11 * druthb watches cait wrangle
10:13 cait this bug is hiding good
10:16 Brooke hey cait what's a rough translation of fullstendig beskrivelse?
10:16 cait ???
10:16 cait that you should ask the norwegian guy
10:16 Brooke well fine
10:16 Brooke tell us Magnus :P
10:16 cait I copy them over and ignore them
10:17 Oak magnus went looking for breakfast
10:17 Brooke looks like full description ala google
10:18 cait it's only relevant for normarc
10:18 cait which nobody is likely to use
10:18 cait so copy and ignore
10:18 Brooke I'm just sayin' it's naggin us
10:18 Brooke so uh
10:18 Brooke I translates what I'm tolds ta
10:21 liw "fullstending beskrivelse" is "complete description" (or "full description"), if my Swedish is to be trusted
10:25 cait ok, i give up
10:25 cait the bug is hiding
10:25 cait it will pop up sometime
10:28 Oak i sure will. that's what they do.
10:28 Oak :)
10:28 Oak magnus_afk, you still use slicehost? http://lists.koha-community.org/pipermail/koha-devel/2009-November/033168.html
10:31 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #514: STILL UNSTABLE in 50 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/514/
10:31 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Follow-up fix for Bug 3958, Standardize vendor/supplier/bookseller terminology
10:31 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Fix for Bug 7085 - Problems with searching for orders in acquisitions
10:32 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3958 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED FIXED, Standardize vendor/supplier/bookseller terminology
10:32 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7085 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Problems with searching for orders in acquisitions
10:32 jenkins_koha Starting build 515 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #491 18 j ago)
10:38 eythian http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=FD3xe6Jt <-- Haters gunna make good points about MongoDB.
10:46 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Notify the user on his account page when his account is almost expired <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e676e117fccfaa8208742c17a08cb92056286f95>
10:55 cait @wunder Konstanz
10:55 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 12.2�C (11:50 AM CET on November 06, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009.0 hPa (Falling).
10:56 druthb @wunder mumbai
10:56 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 33.0�C (3:40 PM IST on November 06, 2011). Conditions: Smoke. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 19.0�C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady).
10:56 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6994: Wrong 'no budget defined' alert <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=488f4be86537211214ede7e0e703128c0cc4c92f>
11:08 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_7146' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1e5347fb34d6adf94ee7db0375145e28267f4bc9> / Bug 7128 - adding some ID's to make styling opac-main.tt a bit easier <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4ccb8649f88abaf9012f1bbec06fc840046cb7ff> / Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_7117' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb
11:20 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #515: STILL UNSTABLE in 48 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/515/
11:20 jenkins_koha ian.walls: Bug 6471: add tablesorter to Holds Queue
11:20 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6471 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED , column sorter on holds queue
11:20 jenkins_koha Starting build 516 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #491 18 j ago)
11:21 Oak kia ora #koha
11:22 Oak hello cait
11:22 Oak hello druthb
11:22 cait hello Oak :)
11:22 Oak time for lunch :)
11:34 Oak vewy vewy quiet
11:36 cait not so much on the bug list
11:36 cait I finally reached the top
11:37 francharb bye all
11:38 cait bye fredericd
11:38 Oak congratulations !
11:38 cait hm, francharb
11:38 wahanui francharb falls asleep easily at sea. Don't believe me? Just ask Brooke.
11:38 Oak cait++
12:05 magnuse @wunder boo
12:05 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo Vi, Norway is 8.0�C (1:00 PM CET on November 06, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Pressure: 30.05 in 1018 hPa (Rising).
12:05 Oak @wunder islamabad
12:05 huginn Oak: The current temperature in Islamabad, Pakistan is 25.0�C (5:00 PM PKT on November 06, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 32%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Rising).
12:06 magnuse @later tell Brooke: fullstendig beskrivelse = complete description
12:06 huginn magnuse: The operation succeeded.
12:06 magnuse @later tell Oak: yes, i'm still using slicehost (but considering moving to linode)
12:06 huginn magnuse: The operation succeeded.
12:06 Oak i'm right here magnuse
12:06 Oak :)
12:06 Oak tell me now
12:07 magnuse ah, tell Oak: yes, i'm still using slicehost (but considering moving to linode)
12:07 magnuse ;-)
12:08 Oak :-)
12:08 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #516: STILL UNSTABLE in 47 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/516/
12:08 jenkins_koha * m.de.rooy: 7146 (Update timestamps when deleting a biblio)
12:08 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7117: Bug 7117 - Small display problems when organising suggestion tabs by name
12:08 jenkins_koha * frederick.capovilla: Notify the user on his account page when his account is almost expired
12:08 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 6994: Wrong 'no budget defined' alert
12:08 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7117 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED , Small display problems when organising suggestion tabs by name
12:08 jenkins_koha * lrea: Bug 7128 - adding some ID's to make styling opac-main.tt a bit easier
12:08 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6994 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED , 'No budget defined' showing up although budgets and funds are defined
12:08 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7128 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, wizzyrea, ASSIGNED , logged in and logged out states of opac-main.tt are hard to style
12:08 Oak whoa
12:09 Oak i like these quite little moments before the storm
12:10 * jcamins_away weeps softly, and tries to psych himself up to finish emptying everything out of the kitchen. Again.
12:10 magnuse jcamins_away: ouch? moving?
12:11 jcamins_away magnuse: alas, not yet. Just emptying the kitchen so that the landlord can "fix" the roach problem.
12:11 cait ouch :(
12:11 cait while you are still there?
12:11 jcamins_away [off] And by "fix" I mean "make much worse."
12:11 jcamins_away Yep.
12:11 magnuse ouch!
12:11 jcamins_away He's not tearing out the kitchen, at least.
12:11 jcamins_away Just "sealing cracks" and that sort of thing.
12:12 magnuse nasssty bugses!
12:12 * magnuse tries not to make a wise crack about debugging...
12:13 jcamins_away :)
12:16 jcamins_away Has anyone looked at the code for bug 1633?
12:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1633 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, kmkale, NEW , Add ability to take book cover images from local img db
12:19 magnuse i thought i'd give the code a spin now, but i'm not the right person for evaluating the code as such...
12:19 magnuse i mean, i can test if it works, bout i couldn't say if the implementation is the best possible implementation...
12:20 magnuse i did wonder about this, though:
12:20 magnuse + my $query = "INSERT INTO bibliocoverimage (biblionumber, mimetype, imagefile) VALUES (?,?,?) ON DUPLICATE KEY UPDATE imagefile = ?;";
12:20 magnuse + my $sth = $dbh->prepare($query);
12:20 magnuse + $sth->execute($biblionumber,$mimetype,$imgfile,$imgfile);
12:20 magnuse looks like $biblionumber,$mimetype,$imgfile,$imgfile is one $imgfile too many?
12:20 jcamins_away No, that's right.
12:21 jcamins_away Though I'm not sure how I feel about the query as such.
12:21 magnuse ah, yes i missed the on eat the end here:
12:21 magnuse VALUES (?,?,?) ON DUPLICATE KEY UPDATE imagefile = ?
12:23 jcamins_away I don't think I like biblionumber being the primary key.
12:23 magnuse jcamins_away: matching on $imgfile?
12:23 magnuse ah, what would you prefer?
12:23 jcamins_away magnuse: no, it replaces the value in imgfile if the biblionumber matches.
12:24 jcamins_away A primary key that doesn't refer to anything, so that one could conceivably have multiple cover images per biblio.
12:27 jcamins_away If it works, perhaps I'll submit a follow-up patch to make it do what I think it should.
12:29 magnuse sounds like a good plan
12:30 magnuse how about storing pictures in the db, is that considered a good idea?
12:30 jcamins_away Yes.
12:30 jcamins_away Well, better than storing them in the file system, anyway.
12:31 Oak in blob format. see, i know something.
12:31 jcamins_away Oak: :)
12:31 Oak :)
12:42 * magnuse got kicked off the wireless
12:42 cait bad wirless, no cookie for you!
12:44 magnuse yay
12:51 magnuse hm, when i try to apply the patch for bug 1633 (with git bz), i get "fatal: cannot convert from UTF-8utf-8 to UTF-8"
12:51 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1633 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, kmkale, NEW , Add ability to take book cover images from local img db
13:01 magnuse ah, removeing "Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"" from the patch by hand seems to solve that
13:06 * jcamins_away grumbles about Windows.
13:06 jcamins_away windows--
13:07 Oak windows--
13:08 cait windows--
13:09 magnuse windows--
13:23 jcamins_away quickbooks--
13:38 jcamins_away magnuse: does the patch for bug 1633 work?
13:38 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1633 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, kmkale, NEW , Add ability to take book cover images from local img db
13:38 magnuse i'm having some trouble with it
13:39 jcamins_away Darn. :( I was hoping it'd work great.
13:41 magnuse the image displays nicely, but not resized
13:43 magnuse on the record view
13:43 magnuse and not on the result list either
13:49 pastebot "magnuse" at 84.202.196.154 pasted "initial notes from testing bug 1633" (27 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/107
13:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1633 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, kmkale, NEW , Add ability to take book cover images from local img db
13:51 magnuse oh well, time to take the dogs outside before it gets dark...
13:51 magnuse see ya!
13:51 Oak see ya magnuse
14:46 dpavlin paul_p: arrived ok to hotel?
14:46 paul_p dpavlin, yep
14:46 paul_p and pushing the bugs on my pile ;-)
14:46 paul_p (still 2 to go)
14:46 paul_p seems you've arrived too
14:47 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7185: Fix updatedatabase message for 3.6.0 release <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e228f233e4638fdbeb77495fafb8453045d43302> / Bug 7184 raise mySQL error if debug is set <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=016e66c6f25fbe3b648bcb8dad8d59f80d11b992>
14:48 dpavlin yap, no problem, other than jackhammers which are shaking our room. It seems that half of Thane decided to break down something (on sunday!)
14:48 cait :(
14:49 paul_p :\
14:50 paul_p cait, just FYI : this afternoon, in the hackfest room, they's breaked ... the rest of the floor...when we left the room, on the right of the stairs, there was... the sun ! (where there was a room in the morning)
14:50 paul_p ... and it's sunday ...
14:50 dpavlin it's ok... internet is working :-) back to bug 1633 to see if I can reproduce magnuse findings...
14:50 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1633 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, kmkale, NEW , Add ability to take book cover images from local img db
14:50 paul_p but well, after 8 days in Mumbaï nothing can look strange ..
14:50 paul_p ;-)
14:51 cait hehe
14:51 cait but from what we got to see from far away - you had a lot fun too :)
14:51 cait the stories being part of it :)
14:56 jenkins_koha Starting build 517 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #491 18 j ago)
14:57 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7188: C4::Context::db_scheme2dbi does case-insensitive grep <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0f8db0c53866afaf5171869359c558d1e9f4325e>
15:21 boot hello
15:21 wahanui what's up, boot
15:21 boot I am small
15:21 boot from last night
15:23 boot I have a problem setting up my DNS stuff for my koha
15:25 boot anyone here
15:25 boot anybody?
15:25 wahanui well, anybody is here
15:26 boot that's the bot, right?
15:27 jcamins_away boot: yeah.
15:27 boot ok
15:28 boot know anything about settling up the dns stuff?
15:28 jcamins_away boot: maybe. What is your question?
15:30 boot well, I created the koha instance, and someone last night said i need to set up the dns to connect to koha. they also said it's not on :8080 it is on a virtual thing
15:31 jcamins_away Ah. Yeah, that's generally better.
15:31 jcamins_away I just edit /etc/hosts to add the virtual hosts that I configured.
15:31 boot ok, I'll try that
15:32 boot I will do that in awhile, I'll post back later
15:32 boot thanks
15:32 jcamins_away Good luck.
15:32 boot thanks, again :p
15:36 dpavlin Q: in bug 7161 I forgot to add [SIGNED-OFF] in first line. Should I re-upload attachment to fix it or is "signed off
15:36 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7161 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, NEW , Open Library - Larger image, Read, borrow and checked-out status
15:36 dpavlin patch status enough? (please say yes :-)
15:37 boot just posting to see what user name I am, ignore me
15:38 boot arg
15:39 * druthb1 waves to dpavlin
15:44 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #517: STILL UNSTABLE in 47 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/517/
15:44 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Bug 7184 raise mySQL error if debug is set
15:44 jenkins_koha * julian.maurice: Bug 7185: Fix updatedatabase message for 3.6.0 release
15:44 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Bug 7188: C4::Context::db_scheme2dbi does case-insensitive grep
15:44 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7184 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , have mysql returning errors
15:44 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7185 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, henridamien, REOPENED , Update to 3.6 says "Koha release 3.4"
15:44 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7188 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , case-insensitive grep of /mysql/ in C4::Context
15:44 sekjal dpavlin: it's okay to not have "signed off" in the commit line
15:45 sekjal that was really only necessary for emails to the listserv, to help catch attention
15:45 sekjal not important for BZ
15:48 small Hello
15:49 small I do not have a etc/hosts folder
15:50 Oak small, hosts is a file name
15:50 Oak in etc folder
15:51 small Oh
15:51 small Oops
15:51 small Thanks
15:51 Oak no problem
15:52 small I dont think i set up any virtual hosts, and if i did, i dont remember
15:52 small can someone help me with this?
15:52 Oak memory loss?
15:52 Oak :) just kidding
15:53 small i duno
15:53 small someone told me what to do, so i really dont know what i actuly did
15:53 small but im pretty sure i didn't set one up
15:53 Oak you are on Debian?
15:54 small Ubuntu, so sortof
15:54 jcamins_away small: you might want to read an introduction to Linux, if you're not sure what /etc/hosts is.
15:54 small i dont learn by reading, i learn by doing
15:55 jcamins_away small: yeah, but if you don't know the vocabulary, it might be hard to do. ;)
15:55 small true, i know most, i would like to think
15:55 jcamins_away Okay.
15:56 small but this is the last step, then it is web based (i think)
15:57 jcamins_away Yup.
15:58 kmkale Namaste #koha
15:58 small I think oak was helping, is he just thinking of what to do now?
15:58 jcamins_away What I'd do is take a look at the Apache config file in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/{whatever_you_called_your_instance}
15:58 small ok
15:58 small what do i do with it, will it tell me something?
15:59 * Oak is letting experts help you. oak knows not about much.
15:59 small i have 2 files with the name of my instance
15:59 small Ok
15:59 jcamins_away small: 2 files?
16:00 small yes
16:00 small i think they made me do that 2 times last night
16:00 jcamins_away small: what's the result of `ls /etc/apache2/sites-enabled`
16:00 small 000-default mylibary mylibrary
16:01 small mylibary is the name i used
16:01 jcamins_away Intentionally misspelled?
16:01 small umm, maybe :D
16:01 small So how do i delete the one i dont need
16:01 Oak just do it!
16:02 small But wich one? does it matter?
16:03 jcamins_away small: you have to decide which you want to keep.
16:03 small both of them have nothing inside them
16:03 jcamins_away I can't tell you what your thought process was when you spelled mylibary like that.
16:04 small but,
16:04 small both of them have nothing inside them
16:04 small is that bad?
16:04 jcamins_away Uhhh...
16:04 jcamins_away Probably.
16:04 small should i delete both and start over?
16:04 * jcamins_away needs to do his books, though, so he can't really help more.
16:05 small hmm, ok
16:05 small Is Oak still here?
16:05 jcamins_away (that's financial books, not printed books, alas)
16:07 small Is there somewhere else i can get help online?
16:10 Oak small, normally, on Sunday, not people are available. family, friends, holiday... you get the idea.
16:10 jcamins_away small: look on the wiki... I know there are pages about using the packages.
16:11 jcamins_away small: also, as Oak says, checking back during the week might be a good way to get more help.
16:11 Oak plus, i actually don't know enough to help you.
16:12 small ok
16:12 small hmm
16:38 cait back
16:45 cait paul_p: still around?
16:46 paul_p cait, yep
16:46 cait commented on bug 6390
16:46 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6390 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, ef, ASSIGNED , Basket only visible for librarian who created it
16:47 cait the updatedatabas is already in
16:47 cait it's only the followup - no database update for this
16:47 cait hm the second follow up, the last patch on the bug
16:48 cait sorry if my first comment was not clear
16:48 cait :(
16:48 * paul_p was about to say I don't understand ...
16:48 druthb1 cait, do you need me to go smack the release manager? I'll be happy to, if he's earned it...and it's a golden opportunity... ;-)
16:49 cait nah
16:49 cait don't smack him, we still need him :)
16:49 druthb1 rats.
16:49 cait i think it was perhaps confusing because there are 2 follow ups to this
16:49 cait which I have only see now
16:49 * druthb1 could run down the hall in her pajamas, up a flight of stairs, and smack him, and run back, and no one the wiser...
16:50 cait the newest from ian is the only patch not pushed into master yet
16:50 * paul_p turns the key of the door to lock it...
16:50 cait lol
16:50 cait paul_p: wise decision
16:50 druthb1 darn.
16:50 * druthb1 is in a mood to smack someone right now.
16:50 paul_p cait, you mean http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=5966 ?
16:51 cait paul_p: right that one :)
16:51 cait because the feature is already in, but causing a problem, that patch will fix it
16:52 paul_p OK, gotcha !!!
16:52 cait yay :)
16:52 cait thx
16:52 cait just came back from a long walk, should go and do sometihng about dinner
16:52 paul_p I think the follow-up should have been in a different bug, that would have been more clear (for instance, no way to see easily that 2 patches have been applied and one hasn't)
16:53 cait hm no not easy, but there is a push comment from chris
16:54 small_away :(
16:54 small I ran through all of the steps at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_Lucid_using_Koha_packages, and it doesn't work
16:54 small no errors
16:55 small Can anyone help?
16:56 small Please?
16:57 small :(
16:58 small Ok
16:58 small Now it works
16:58 cait small?
16:58 wahanui hmmm... small is stuck on the install part
16:58 cait ah :)
16:58 small But i got a problem
16:58 cait small: now it works?
16:58 cait ah ok
16:58 small sort of
16:58 cait did you run the web installer?
16:58 cait which version of koha did you install?
16:58 small i goto localhost
16:58 small and it brings me to opac
16:59 small how do i get to the admin
16:59 small 3.06
16:59 small .00.000
16:59 cait normally with localhost:8080
16:59 cait if you have not changed something
16:59 small well
16:59 cait and the fist time you get there
16:59 cait it should start the web installer
16:59 small i just goto localhost and it brings me to the opac, then says "System Maintance"
16:59 small :8080 has 404
17:00 small What do i do?
17:00 cait the opac is correct
17:00 small because i havnt ran the installer
17:00 cait the system maintenance will stay until the database was created with the web installer
17:00 small yes, but how do i get to the installer>
17:00 cait what you have to get working is the staff interface
17:00 cait the 404 is the problem
17:00 small i know, but how?
17:00 small yes
17:00 cait have you added listen 8080 to your apache conf?
17:01 cait restarted apache?
17:01 small probably not
17:01 small restarted
17:01 small brb
17:01 small just a sec
17:01 cait ok
17:01 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_6390' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bfc3ea8cc4f0746d4d5658d7c2e2353855bd2b29> / Bug 6390 Followup: Basket's authorisedby might not be a borrowernumber <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=58bdfdb08883eb52777321f883491eaff1493857>
17:01 cait wante to say: and restart apache after that :)
17:01 Oak so cait, you like long walks, hm
17:01 Oak nice
17:01 cait Oak?
17:01 wahanui it has been said that Oak is Arslan. I am a student doing masters in Library Science (2nd semester). I am a web developer and work in Joomla.
17:02 Oak <cait> just came back from a long walk, should go and do sometihng about dinner
17:02 cait hehe, no I only wondered about your comment :)
17:03 Oak oh don't worry about my comments. most of them are random.
17:03 small im back
17:04 small so how do i make the apache listhen on port 8080?
17:05 Oak add Listen 127.0.0.1:8080 in httpd.conf
17:05 cait you have to edit lines in your apache configuration
17:05 Oak restart apache
17:05 cait ah thx Oak :)
17:05 cait was going to look that up :)
17:06 small ok
17:06 Oak :) see, i help sometimes :)
17:06 cait you often help :)
17:06 * cait gives Oak cookies
17:06 small where is httpd.conf located?
17:06 cait etc/apache2 I think
17:06 Oak :)
17:07 small if that file is blank, is it bad?
17:07 cait are you sure you have opened the right file?
17:07 cait not created a new?
17:07 small i think
17:07 small i'll check
17:07 small oh, its apache2
17:08 small /etc/apache2/
17:08 small but that is blank 2
17:08 small oh, nevermind
17:08 small i did it right
17:08 small it is blank
17:08 small or, i cant see anything in gedit
17:08 cait hm that is a bit weird
17:09 small it shows lines on the icon, but in gedit there is nothing
17:09 small oh
17:09 small oops
17:10 small nevermind that
17:10 wahanui i heard nevermind that was a dumb question
17:10 cait forget nevermind
17:10 small it doesnt want to, lol
17:10 cait wahanui: forget nevermind that
17:10 wahanui cait: I forgot nevermind that
17:10 cait I was missing one word :)
17:10 small haha
17:10 small well, i added Listen 127.0.0.1:8080 to that file
17:11 small and it still errors 404 on :8080
17:11 cait hmm
17:11 Oak restarted apache?
17:11 small oh yeah, oops :D
17:11 cait oh
17:11 cait I think we have the wrong file
17:12 Oak uh oh
17:12 cait yep
17:12 jenkins_koha Starting build 518 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #491 18 j ago)
17:12 cait it's ports.conf
17:12 small file not found on the server
17:12 cait should look like this
17:12 cait NameVirtualHost *:80
17:12 cait Listen 80
17:12 cait Listen 8080
17:12 small before firefox would say problem ... now it says file not found on this server
17:12 Oak on Slackware, i added that line in httpd.conf
17:12 small ok
17:13 cait I would sugged, unto the change to the other file and check the ports.conf
17:13 small ok
17:13 small ports.conf has that, exept listen 8080
17:13 Oak ignore. listen to cait small. one person guiding is better.
17:13 small si i added it
17:13 small so i added it
17:13 small OK
17:13 cait good :)
17:13 cait now restart
17:13 cait *crossing fingers*
17:13 small should i del that line in httpd.conf first?
17:14 cait hm
17:14 cait perhaps better
17:14 small ok
17:14 small Not Found
17:14 small The requested URL / was not found on this server.
17:14 small Apache/2.2.14 (Ubuntu) Server at localhost Port 8080
17:14 small :(
17:15 small Now what?
17:15 cait localhost broken too?
17:16 small nope
17:16 small that takes me to opac maintenance
17:16 cait ok
17:16 cait so we didn't amke it worse :)
17:16 cait apache and me are not really friends
17:16 cait perhaps someone else has an idea
17:17 cait you can also check the INSTALL files that are in your koha folders
17:17 cait perhaps you missed a step somewhere
17:17 cait they are usually a bit more up to date than the wiki manuals
17:17 small ok, i used a package if that helps?
17:17 small :80 takes me to opac
17:18 cait hm
17:18 cait you used the debian packages?
17:18 cait did you use koha-common?
17:18 cait I think the wiki page is really not up to date
17:18 small yes
17:18 small oh
17:18 cait for example you don't need to add the indexdata repo any longer
17:19 small oh
17:19 cait I would recommend checking the install file that comes with koha
17:19 cait and look through that
17:19 small ok
17:19 cait perhaps you will find what's going wrong
17:19 small ok
17:19 cait and if not, ocme back at another time of day - normally someone here can help
17:19 cait but people change with timezones :)
17:19 small yes
17:19 small i can see :P
17:31 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6679: Fixing admin/aqplain :encoding(UTF-8) gives strict validation <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ee0627f20bee5df234ab284d1fdacebb857de57f> / Bug 6679 : Tidying changed parts of file <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3b0474950c791bbf0367f6c819203180205f7aa8> / Bug 6679 : Don't declare variables in conditionals <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha
17:50 small Hello?
17:50 small i got a problem
17:50 small With CPAN
17:51 small Anyone home?
17:53 small Guess not
17:53 cait weekends are a bit silent
17:53 small ok
17:53 small Can you help?
17:53 cait and some of the usual suspects are i india :)
17:53 cait I can try, but not sure
17:53 cait what is your problem?
17:54 cait I think you don't need cpan really - it should all be available with ubuntu packages
17:54 small it errors when doing this
17:54 small sudo cpan HTTP::OAI Locale::Currency::Format Memoize::Memcached \
17:54 small PDF::API2::Simple Storable Text::CSV::Encoded
17:54 small And when tryin gto start via. /etc/perl/CPAN/Config.pm initialized
17:54 small It says commad not found
17:54 cait hm
17:54 cait yes
17:55 small ok
17:55 cait I would use the ubuntu packages
17:55 cait because it will make updating easier
17:55 small ok
17:55 small That is the ubuntu software manager?
17:55 cait yep
17:55 cait or apt-get install
17:55 small what one to i download?
17:56 small the CPAN ?
17:56 wahanui is there anything it cant do
17:56 small Warning: no success downloading '/home/koha/.cpan/sources/authors/id/T/TI/TIMBRODY/HTTP-OAI-3.27.tar.gz.tmp22470'. Giving up on it. at /usr/share/perl/5.10/CPAN/Distribution.pm line 379
17:56 small That is the error
17:56 cait hm
17:56 cait what you can do
17:56 cait to deal with the dependencies
17:56 cait is
17:57 small there is no other errors that i can see
17:57 cait http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.4_on_Debian_Squeeze
17:57 cait and follow that, using the stable version
17:57 cait and stopping after apt-get install koha-common
17:57 small i have done that
17:57 small many times
17:57 cait and there are still packages missing?
17:57 small yes
17:57 cait hm
17:57 cait which version of ubuntu are you using?
17:58 small 10.10
17:58 cait and sudo apt-get install koha-common worked?
17:58 small yes
17:59 cait sorry, i am out of ideas for now
17:59 cait perhaps try google for problems with this specific packages
17:59 small hmm
17:59 small ok
17:59 small It works now
18:00 small i downloaded CPAN from ubuntu software center
18:00 small and the command works now
18:00 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #518: STILL UNSTABLE in 48 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/518/
18:00 jenkins_koha ian.walls: Bug 6390 Followup: Basket's authorisedby might not be a borrowernumber
18:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6390 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, ef, ASSIGNED , Basket only visible for librarian who created it
18:01 jenkins_koha Starting build 519 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #491 18 j ago)
18:02 small i have never ran the koha installer, is this bad?
18:03 small I think it is
18:03 cait the web installer?
18:03 wahanui the web installer is installed by default
18:03 cait or make?
18:04 wahanui make is running now
18:04 cait forget make
18:04 wahanui cait: I forgot make
18:04 cait forget web installer
18:04 wahanui cait: I forgot web installer
18:04 cait wahanui: web installer is <reply>
18:04 wahanui OK, cait.
18:04 cait wahanui: make is <reply>
18:04 wahanui OK, cait.
18:04 cait wahanui botsnack cookie
18:04 wahanui :)
18:05 small ok then
18:05 small the make file
18:05 small should i run that?
18:07 ferks hi
18:07 wahanui que tal, ferks
18:07 ferks que tal
18:07 wahanui salut, ferks
18:08 ferks hi, may i have some live help
18:08 ferks its all about installing koha throught ftp to my domain
18:08 ferks is it possible?
18:09 small I dont think so
18:09 small But you could ask someone more "smart"
18:09 small "smart" people are hear on the weekdays , that is what i hear anyway
18:10 ferks haha
18:10 small If you are using "free hosting" or hosting from a company, i do not belive you can
18:11 ferks i got a paid account HOSTING+domain
18:11 small then it will probably not work
18:11 ferks so i just want to know how can i set my library catalog to be accesed over the internet
18:11 small oh
18:11 small i think you need a computer "server
18:11 small i think you need a computer "server"
18:12 small to run the koha, and setup dns to your domain
18:12 small But that is what i think, you could comeback on the weekdays and ask then
18:12 ferks yeah thats the point, im a noob im just experimenting
18:12 small haha
18:12 small ok
18:12 ferks well
18:12 ferks so
18:12 small yeah, i dont think you can do it
18:13 ferks ok
18:13 ferks i try to access with my localip to my opac but it doesnt works
18:14 ferks i got everything configured on the VM running koha its pretty funtional
18:15 ferks i just wanna know if its possible make this.....use for example mycatalogDOTcom for acces my lubrary instead of mi ip
18:16 ferks through my localip it simpley doesnt works
18:16 ferks sorry for bothering guys, just looking ut some help
18:32 ibeardslee rangi: I didn't get to go at all.
18:32 rangi ahh bummer
18:32 rangi I got a full saturday
18:33 rangi ill pester anitsirk for a report
18:33 small I got a question
18:34 small if i have a virtual cd, that i made with everything setup up untill the web installer. Can i upgrade that to 3.06 before running the installer ?\
18:34 small it is version 3.02
18:36 small Anybody?
18:36 wahanui i think Anybody is here
18:36 small I dont
18:38 small Noone is here!
18:38 small :O
18:38 small i wonder if i can talk to wahanui
18:38 small wahanui:
18:38 wahanui small: i'm not following you...
18:38 small wahanui: Are you there?
18:38 wahanui wish i knew, small
18:38 small wahanui: What
18:38 wahanui bugger all, i dunno, small
18:39 small wahanui: lol
18:39 wahanui small: what?
18:39 small wahanui: what what
18:39 wahanui bugger all, i dunno, small
18:39 small wahanui: what what what
18:39 wahanui small: i don't know
18:39 small wahanui: i dont know
18:39 wahanui small: huh?
18:39 small wahanui: lol
18:39 wahanui small: excuse me?
18:39 small haha
18:39 small that was fun
18:39 small bye everybody
18:39 small wahanui: bye
18:39 wahanui small: what?
18:39 small wahanui: Goodbye
18:39 wahanui small: excuse me?
18:44 ibeardslee would have been good to get there, but not going meant I had the chance to install Windows :(
18:45 rangi oh yeah id leap at that too
18:45 rangi :)
18:45 rangi work stuff im guessing not by choice
18:46 rangi hmm
18:47 rangi chrisdothall: you start today eh?
18:47 ibeardslee yeah and now I'm looking for the 64 bit drivers
18:47 rangi ahh
18:49 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #519: STILL UNSTABLE in 48 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/519/
18:49 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 6679 : Declare variables outside of conditionals
18:49 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 6679 : Don't declare variables in conditionals Don't change $_ in a list context http://search.cpan.org/~elliotjs/Perl-Critic-1.116/lib/Perl/Critic/Policy/ControlStructures/ProhibitMutatingListFunctions.pm
18:49 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 6679 : Not using strict .. bad script, no cookie for you!
18:49 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 6679 : Don't declare variables in conditionals
18:49 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 6679 : Tidying changed parts of file
18:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6679 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , Fixing code so it passes basic Perl::Critic tests
18:49 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 6679: Fixing admin/aqplain :encoding(UTF-8) gives strict validation
18:50 rangi I still like my bad script patch :)
18:50 cait bad script - no cookies for you!
18:50 rangi heh
19:09 chrisdothall rangi: next monday sorry :)
19:09 rangi ah dang it
19:09 rangi :)
19:10 rangi still doing exams ?
19:10 chrisdothall last one is today *phew*
19:10 rangi excellent, good luck :)
19:11 chrisdothall cheers, then I have a week to revise perl and then im all yours :)
19:11 cait good luck :)
19:11 rangi awesome
19:11 chrisdothall thanks cait
19:11 cait :)
19:11 chrisdothall I look forward to the day I never have to sit another exam
19:12 ibeardslee there will always be another to do
19:12 chrisdothall :o
19:12 ibeardslee even if it is an eye exam as you get older ;)
19:13 chrisdothall hahaha I think I wouldnt mind that as much ;p
19:13 rangi yeah, i havent done a 'lock you in a room with no reference material to solve a problem' type exam in years, cant say i miss them
19:15 chrisdothall living the dream.
19:15 rangi heh
19:15 cait hehe
19:15 cait I get to take my reference material with me
19:16 cait into the distance study exams, but only paper, no internet
19:16 chrisdothall cait: is there a limit on the number of pages you can take in or anything?
19:16 cait anything
19:16 wahanui anything is possible with enough development work :)
19:16 cait some people bring a lot of folders, I normally bring thebook and some summaries
19:17 chrisdothall it was phrased poorly >.>
19:17 chrisdothall cait: what subject are your exams on?
19:17 cait it's computer science, so programming mostly
19:18 cait but also some business courses (eew) and maths
19:18 chrisdothall and they are all open book :o
19:18 cait and some other things, most exams allow to bring everything, a few exceptions
19:18 cait if you don't understand it the book will not help much
19:18 cait but if you do... you can look up things
19:18 cait I think it's good
19:19 chrisdothall yeah, and I presume they would structure it in such a way that it doesnt feature too much rote type questions, etc.
19:19 rangi more like the real world
19:19 chrisdothall I think it would better reflect your skill
19:19 cait rote type questions?
19:19 chrisdothall cait: rote learning, memorisation by repitition
19:20 chrisdothall things that revole around facts you 'just have to learn'
19:20 cait ah
19:20 cait no,normally not
19:20 cait but programming on paper is hard enough, I always end up with lots of little stars pointing to footnotes and arrows and things
19:20 cait wonder how they are figuring it out in the end, but seemed ot have worked so far
19:21 chrisdothall hahaha I have a bad habit or writing a lot of my code out on paper when im normally programming, one of the few advantages is that it helps when exams come :)
19:22 chrisdothall sadly this year most of my exams have been on theory rather than writing code
19:24 cait I don't like those
19:24 chrisdothall neither :(
19:25 chrisdothall next year one paper I am doing is assessed internally based on a large group project :)
19:26 cait group projects can be fun, but you need the right group for it I htink
19:29 chrisdothall definitely, I have a group of friends doing the same paper, and we were in a group for a large-ish project this year and it worked well.
19:30 cait cool :)
19:30 chrisdothall but it very much depends on what group you get, they try to judge it individually, but they can only do so much.
19:40 rangi @later tell chris_n when you get a second, can you test pushing to the 3.6.x branch for me please?
19:40 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded.
20:41 test trying to install, gravatar::URL
20:41 test anyone know how?
20:41 rangi what distribution do you use?
20:42 test umm, I don't know, koha just said that I needed it
20:42 rangi no, what distribution of linux are you installing on
20:42 test I have ubuntu 10.10 server
20:42 rangi try
20:42 rangi sudo apt-get install libgravatar-url-perl
20:43 test ok
20:43 rangi 10.10 is maverick eh?
20:43 test what?
20:44 test ok, there is a prob. with that download
20:44 test it says I need version 1.03, that was version 1.02 :(
20:46 rangi you can get 1.03 from debian.koha-community.org
20:46 test ok
20:47 rangi or from http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/libgravatar-url-perl
20:48 test ok, I am at the debian.koha-com... URL and what directory do I get it from?
20:48 test I also need something called Template
20:49 rangi sudo apt-get install libtemplate-perl
20:49 * rangi has to get back to work now, but look in the pool directory
20:49 test ok, thanks
20:50 test I found it, but how do I install it?
20:52 test anyone else here?
20:55 test ...
20:56 test :(
20:56 test wahanui:
20:56 wahanui test: huh?
20:57 test wahanui: how are you?
20:57 wahanui mas o menos
20:57 test wahanui:That is good
20:57 wahanui OK, test.
20:58 test wahanui: lol
20:58 wahanui test: i'm not following you...
20:59 test anybody here other then wahanui the computer
21:00 test I'll take that as a no
21:01 test :/
21:01 test :\
21:03 test :|
21:03 test Argggggvgv
21:03 test whanui: I am sad
21:04 test wahanui: I am sad
21:04 wahanui ...but test is <action> does a testing dance...
21:04 test what? lol
21:04 test wahanui: I am Happy
21:04 wahanui ...but test is <action> does a testing dance...
21:05 test k then
21:06 test really ? no-one is here
21:06 test I have a hard time believing that
21:07 test :'(
21:57 small i got a question
21:58 small where is the old koha-sintall-lof file located?
21:58 small where is the old koha-intall-lof file located?
21:58 small where is the old koha-intall-log file located?
21:58 small there ^^
21:59 small Anybody home?
22:00 small we all know, wahauni is home
22:00 small but is anyone smart home?
22:00 small wahauni: You are here, right?
22:00 small wahanui: You are here, right?
22:00 wahanui small: wish i knew
22:00 small lol
22:03 small nevermind, i found it
22:14 small Just thought i would let people know that i sucsessfully installed koha 3.06.00.000
22:14 small :d
22:14 small :D
22:23 small Anybody here?
22:23 small That can help me with the email thing
22:31 small ...