Time  Nick           Message
00:05 rangi          yay
00:05 rangi          free iceblocks
00:28 rangi          bug 5280 is cool, finishing testing it for sign off
00:29 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5280 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Fix password field in members.pl so that the password is masked as it is entered
01:00 Soupermanito   o/ hello!, can i ask a question that might not have to do a lot with koha? I wonder how can i have a field on a mysql table that gets repeated as many instances as entries there is, i have a table called "Comments" which has a field called "bug" there an user adds a bug number, but if the user has more than one bug to report then... i would need that that field gets repeated. I ask here because i guess thats the same thing that happens when adding a
01:00 Soupermanito   new descriptor
01:18 libsysguy1     evening #Koha
01:19 Danielle       Hi libsysguy1
01:19 libsysguy1     anything fun going on in the IRC tonight?
01:19 libsysguy1     no heated debates i see
01:19 Danielle       Not much for me. Your good self?
01:20 libsysguy1     indeed…just got home from a long drive
01:35 huginn         New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6650] no holds message is not always clear <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6650>
01:56 Oak            \o
03:16 rangi          right, on the 2nd beer, time to stop signing off
03:17 ibeardslee     cricky you are doing well
03:17 rangi          (one over the road at meow while picking up my kiwicon registration)
03:19 ibeardslee     ahh
03:32 druthb         o/
03:48 francharb      0/ druthb
03:48 francharb      ;)
03:48 francharb      hello all
03:48 druthb         :D
03:48 * druthb       counts herself so, so lucky today...
03:50 bg             morning
03:50 bg             druthb++
04:18 bg             alrightly
04:18 druthb         o/  !
04:18 bg             wi-fi check
04:18 bg             let's start squashing
04:18 druthb         We don't see you, bg.
04:18 * druthb       waves at the back of francharb's head
04:18 sekjal         morning, #koha
04:18 bg             do you see me now?
04:19 sekjal         bg: I see you
04:19 bg             heh
04:19 francharb      where are you druthb ?
04:19 druthb         nope...dun see you at all, bg.  Just a well-defined figment of sekjal's imagination.
04:19 sekjal         you're sitting next to JesseM ;)
04:19 druthb         behind you, francharb.
04:19 francharb      ok
04:19 * sekjal       is a figment of sekjal's imagination
04:19 francharb      i found you
04:19 francharb      so who's who?
04:19 francharb      sekjal is ian right?
04:20 * sekjal       is Ian Walls of ByWater Solutions, yes
04:20 francharb      oki
04:21 druthb         hi, julian_m! :)
04:21 julian_m       hi all
04:21 julian_m       hi druthb
04:22 druthb         bg, I think we need to hire kmkale.  I tell our partners that none of us are psychic, but he seems to be....
04:22 bg             heh
04:24 paul_p         hello world !
04:24 * paul_p       is about to try pushing his first patch as RM...
04:24 druthb         hello, paul_p!
04:27 bg             go paul_p
04:33 bg             git-bz?
04:33 wahanui        git-bz is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Git_bz_configuration
04:33 druthb         wahanui: paul_p?
04:33 wahanui        druthb: bugger all, i dunno
04:33 paul_p         druthb, yep ?
04:34 druthb         wahanui: paul_p?
04:34 wahanui        well, paul_p is the 3.8 release manager, and is very tall.
04:34 druthb         better.
04:34 druthb         :D
04:35 druthb         wahanui: sekjal?
04:35 wahanui        sekjal is someone's favorite propeller-head. or the QA Manager for koha.
04:35 eythian        wahanui: tall paul is tall
04:35 wahanui        OK, eythian.
04:35 druthb         lol
04:35 druthb         eythian++
04:37 druthb         hi, BobB! :D
04:44 bg             git-bz?
04:44 wahanui        i heard git-bz was at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Git_bz_configuration
04:44 bg             zebra?
04:44 wahanui        i think zebra is a fielded free text indexing and retrieval engine with a Z39.50 front-end. You can use any compatible, commercial, or freeware Z39.50 client to access data stored in Zebra.
04:44 bg             NateC?
04:44 wahanui        I LIKE SPACE AND MY WIFE
04:45 bg             JesseM?
04:45 bg             bg?
04:45 wahanui        I LIKE BREAKFAST BURRITOS AND I LOVE BASEBALL
04:45 bg             rangi?
04:45 wahanui        I LIKE ALMONDS! HAVE SOME NUTS!
04:45 francharb      I lIKE WAHANUI
04:45 bg             mtj
04:45 eythian        "I like big space and I cannot lie"?
04:45 bg             mtj?
04:45 wahanui        DeM KraZy NutZ!!
04:53 eythian        @later tell magnus fixed that thing with the package translation branch not building, turned out to be a bad package name manually entered.
04:53 huginn         eythian: The operation succeeded.
04:58 * druthb       giggles.
04:58 druthb         wahanui: francharb?
04:58 wahanui        francharb falls asleep easily at sea.  Don't believe me?  Just ask Brooke.
04:59 * druthb       is innocent!  Promise!
04:59 francharb      ??? i thought wahanui was a  bot...
04:59 druthb         wahanui is a bot.
04:59 * druthb       teaches it things.
05:00 * druthb       is sneaky like that.
05:00 francharb      hmm
05:00 francharb      :)
05:04 rangi          gbsd .... how many are u hackfesters gonna do, im 6 ahead of you already
05:05 eythian        rangi: there are something like 40 people attending the hackfest
05:06 eythian        perhaps more
05:06 eythian        there's a training stream with many newbies in it.
05:06 rangi          108 need signoff
05:06 druthb         hi, rangi!
05:06 rangi          betcha can't do them all :)
05:06 rangi          heya druthb
05:07 * eythian      wants to work on some feature plans with the OpenLibrary folks, there's some interesting things that can be done there.
05:07 eythian        reminds me: is your open library covers branch in master?
05:07 rangi          yep
05:08 rangi          my read api one isn't
05:08 rangi          pulling in their ebooks
05:08 rangi          covers are in 3.6.0 tho
05:08 eythian        cos one thing we're thinking (to start with) is "add this cover" when there's no known cover, that takes you to the OL cover uploader page.
05:08 rangi          related subjects and ebooks are ready to be submitted
05:09 Khmar          eythian: We have a list of ideas which we were discussing here.
05:09 Khmar          (apropos Open Library)
05:09 eythian        Khmar: cool
05:09 rangi          George, mike and I have an email thread that goes back to kohancon10
05:09 eythian        Khmar: when I'm done with what I'm working on, I might come talk some.
05:10 Khmar          Sure!
05:10 rangi          eythian: you should get someone to sign off ur package ones cos I can't, same organisation and all
05:11 eythian        @later tell magnus I may need you to help with some signoffs :)
05:11 huginn         eythian: The operation succeeded.
05:11 rangi          theres about 4 waiting
05:11 eythian        done
05:11 rangi          u should teach ppl there how to do it
05:12 eythian        true
05:12 rangi          all the signoffs keep falling on the same ppl
05:12 eythian        bbl, OL talking
05:12 eythian        yeah
05:12 rangi          cool cya
05:13 eythian        rangi: your ol patches are anywhere?
05:14 druthb         hi, kmkale! :D
05:14 rangi          git.workbuffer.org somewhere
05:14 rangi          ill look when I get off the bus
05:14 rangi          morning cait
05:16 bg             heya rangi
05:17 rangi          heya bg
05:21 cait           hi all :)
05:21 cait           morning rangi and bg
05:21 bg             yo cait
05:25 druthb         hi, cait. :)
05:26 cait           hi druthb :)
05:29 jransom        can someone from bywater please check that both jransom on the test site have sup[eruser provleges set
05:29 sekjal         on it, jransom
05:29 jransom        (and tell me if privleges setting has changed positions from MORE in 3.2 to something else in 3.6
05:29 sekjal         I set you up with them, will confirm now
05:29 jransom        thanks
05:30 BobB           rangi:  there is a training session on signing off bugs at KohaCon hackfest 2pm today
05:30 jransom        i have a classful of kids who will need superuser privleges before 11.30
05:30 sekjal         you've got two accounts
05:34 jransom        yes i know
05:34 paul_p         druthb, maybe that could be usefull for your migrations : http://search.cpan.org/~reiveune/MARC-Transform-0.002002/lib/MARC/Transform.pm
05:34 jransom        the password for the one you set up didnt work
05:34 cait           jransom: It's still under more if you have permission to see it
05:34 cait           and good morning :)
05:35 Oak            Guten morgen miss cait :)
05:36 jransom        ok - well in that case i do not have permissions set correctly
05:37 druthb         paul_p: That is *brilliant*!  I love it.    that could save me a good bit of re-doing of scripts!
05:37 paul_p         druthb, you can thank stephane.delaune at biblibre.com ;-)
05:37 paul_p         cait, good morning !
05:38 druthb         Salām, Oak.  :)
05:38 Oak            Hello druthb :-)
05:38 jransom        sekjal: any reason you can see why I can\t set permissions ?
05:38 druthb         paul_p:  :D
05:39 paul_p         druthb, (stephane is a great developer, always wondering if he made right or wrong. So don't hesitate to thank him !)
05:40 druthb         I will, paul_p! :)
05:40 cait           trying to get an early start on gbsd :)
05:41 sekjal         morning, cait!
05:41 cait           morning sekjal :)
05:42 sekjal         jransom: I've confirmed you can set permissions with your 'joann' login
05:42 sekjal         jransom:  and also now with your j
05:42 sekjal         sorry
05:43 sekjal         your "jransom" account
05:43 sekjal         should be all set
05:43 jransom        ok - thanks -- will try now. they will all superuser before next xlass at 11.30
05:43 sekjal         sorry for delay
05:43 sekjal         great
05:43 jransom        no worries -
05:43 sekjal         how's it going down there?
05:43 jransom        very difficult
05:43 jransom        they were so polite none said they were stuck
05:43 jransom        so i had toi keep checking all the time
05:43 jransom        i buddied up quick ones with slow ones
05:44 jransom        and checked everyones monitords constantly
05:44 jransom        but they are ready for bob
05:44 jransom        they all know there are 2 faces to koha
05:44 jransom        and which urls are for which
05:44 jransom        and all have a logon
05:44 jransom        and can find a book
05:45 mtj_mumbai     morning #koha
05:46 Brooke         0/
05:46 huginn         New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7144] Floating collection <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7144>
05:47 sekjal         whoa, that's ready already?
05:47 sekjal         geez
05:48 jransom        Sekjal: Sheetal Autade
05:48 jransom        how do i make that person have permissions to edit system configs and setups
05:49 jransom        or will just bob do that (by demonstrating) using the joann signon
05:49 sekjal         I can do superlibrarian, or set up permissions on that account, right now
05:50 Brooke         well get to gettin :P
05:50 jransom        (i would think at least he will want them to be able to navigate to the settings)
05:51 jransom        problem solved
05:51 jransom        will get to
05:53 kmkale         HI all
05:53 jransom        is there a quick way to make all newe patrons registered today superlibrarians
05:53 kmkale         we have a session going here with about 10 Bsc IT students getting started on Marathi translation :)
05:54 kmkale         I cant stop smiling :)
05:54 jransom        me either
05:54 jransom        its pretty cool stuff
05:54 cait           :)
05:55 sekjal         kmkale:  that makes me happy to hear
05:55 cait           jransom: no, perhaps on sql level
05:56 sekjal         idea for development: default permissions for patron category (in addition to messaging prefs)
05:56 cait           or implement a role model... :)
05:56 cait           linking a role to the patron record with default permissions
05:57 sekjal         cait:  yes!  one additional layer would help a lot
05:57 sekjal         set up profiles, link patron categories to profiles
05:57 cait           yep
05:57 sekjal         we could then also have OPAC-side permissions, not just staff-side
05:58 cait           perhaps, but would need more code on opac side
05:59 sekjal         "Can Renew online", "Can place hold online", "Can cancel holds online" etc
05:59 sekjal         yes, more coding
06:00 sekjal         but if we build the structure, we can more easily plug in those features in the future
06:01 cait           yep
06:01 cait           :)
06:01 sekjal         is anyone working on a specific bug right now?
06:01 Brooke         feature planning and ease of modification. Sacriledge!
06:02 cait           not yet
06:02 cait           still doing my 'learning perl' reading for today :)
06:09 paul_p         kmkale, did you saw frederic gave you admin access ?
06:13 sekjal         rangi++ (for signing off on some of my recent patches)
06:13 francharb      kmkale++
06:13 francharb      for everything
06:13 francharb      ;)
06:15 cait           kmkale++ :)
06:17 cait           down from 111 yesterday to 103 - make it go greeeen!
06:17 cait           http://bugs.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/bug_status.pl
06:17 cait           hehe
06:19 paul_p         cait, how many is green ?
06:19 cait           I am not totally sure
06:19 cait           around 50 it goes orange I think
06:19 cait           but make it orange... is not something to cheer :)
06:19 paul_p         (/me will have to push all those patches after that... just having to solve a git push problem :\
06:20 cait           qa will notice conflicts I think
06:20 rangi          over 60 is red
06:20 rangi          50-60 = orange
06:20 rangi          30-50 = yellow
06:20 rangi          less than 30 = green
06:22 cait           put it on the wiki
06:22 cait           http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Template:Globsquad#Tools
06:23 rangi          now ill have to change it again to make that wrong
06:23 rangi          thats what i do
06:23 * Brooke       laughs.
06:24 cait           hmpf
06:26 sekjal         green is either 2, 6 or 7 (or any combination there off), if you ask me
06:26 rangi          paul_p: hmmm that push works for me, i just did one, that ill revert, just to test
06:26 jenkins_koha   Starting build 508 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #491 16 j ago)
06:26 rangi          so not sure what is different
06:27 paul_p         :\
06:27 paul_p         rangi, I just added my SSH key (a new one) in the authorised_keys of ~gitorious, should it be enough ?
06:28 rangi          hmm maybe
06:29 paul_p         rangi, my /git/config shows :
06:29 paul_p         [core]
06:29 paul_p         repositoryformatversion = 0
06:29 paul_p         filemode = true
06:29 paul_p         bare = false
06:29 paul_p         logallrefupdates = true
06:29 paul_p         [remote "origin"]
06:29 paul_p         fetch = +refs/heads/*:refs/remotes/origin/*
06:30 paul_p         url = git://git.koha-community.org/koha.git
06:30 paul_p         [branch "master"]
06:30 paul_p         remote = origin
06:30 paul_p         merge = refs/heads/master
06:30 paul_p         + some other remote repos -biblibre.com for example)
06:30 rangi          its using gitolite not gitorious afaik
06:30 huginn         New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 5974 - Bogus auth check for "StaffMember" role <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a867bfcff7201a7fa3b56bee4dd484a49ece35e3>
06:31 paul_p         rangi, ??
06:31 wahanui        it has been said that rangi, is there something new ? on your side, couldn't find time to work on complementary patches as I promised to do :(
06:32 eythian        rangi: I can't see the OL related code anywhere...
06:32 eythian        s/related/"related items"
06:33 rangi          it uses gitolite, not gitorious
06:33 bg             right gitolite
06:33 bg             that sounds correct to me
06:35 cait           forget rangi,
06:35 wahanui        cait: I forgot rangi,
06:35 cait           morning mr robin ;)
06:36 Brooke         It's almost what would normally be lunch
06:36 Brooke         but uh
06:36 Brooke         they crack the whip so we won't get that for another hour or so ;)
06:36 rangi          bg: where did you put the public key ?
06:36 rangi          i tink i might have it
06:38 bg             gmcharlt: put the public key :(
06:39 paul_p         rangi, = /home/gitmaster/.ssh/authorised_keys
06:39 rangi          yeah it shouldnt go there
06:40 paul_p         and where should it go ?
06:40 rangi          it needs to go in the gitolite-admin repo
06:40 rangi          2 secs ill see if i can fix it
06:41 Jo             ok - an entire classroom full of Koha trainees are now all superusers
06:41 Jo             such enthusiasum - is very cool.
06:41 rangi          right found the key gimme 5 mins
06:41 paul_p         Jo, lol !
06:41 Jo             Koustubha has this huge HUGE smile on his face now
06:41 paul_p         Jo, & wonderful !
06:41 cait           :)
06:41 Jo             Bob is doing sys admins now
06:42 paul_p         aaaahhhh ... (for ppl not at KohaCon = koustubha was *very* disappointed because a lot of ppl didn't came)
06:42 Jo             Marijana has over a dozen bright and shiny young teenagers about to start translations
06:42 paul_p         Jo, teenagers or your adults ? I would say young adults.
06:42 Jo             yes he was a very sad man - but now at last he smiles
06:43 Jo             yes adults
06:43 Jo             but these tranmslators are mostly very young
06:43 rangi          paul_p: can you try a push now
06:43 Jo             disaster: I have lost my water bottle
06:43 paul_p         rangi, still not OK
06:43 paul_p         07:36 ~/koha.dev/koha-community (new/bug_6955 $%)$ git push gitmaster@git.koha-community.org:koha.git HEAD:new/bug_6955
06:43 paul_p         fatal: 'koha.git' does not appear to be a git repository
06:44 paul_p         Jo,  we have a lot here
06:44 Jo             yup
06:44 paul_p         (3rd floor, turn right when you're here)
06:44 Jo             koha tutorial is overflowing so 30+
06:44 Jo             i will come up shortly
06:44 rangi          hmm ahhh
06:45 cait           paul_p: a lot of people who registered?
06:45 rangi          i see its because the key is in the .ssh
06:45 paul_p         cait, yep
06:45 * rangi        removes
06:45 cait           paul_p: yeah, that's not nice :(
06:45 paul_p         cait, and maybe 5 speakers...
06:45 rangi          try again please
06:45 cait           paul_p: that's even worse!
06:45 bg             YAY
06:45 paul_p         we have improvised an OPAC demo & a lighning talk sessions !
06:46 paul_p         rangi, OK, fixed
06:46 Jo             luckily though the combined talent of koha community is very strong
06:46 paul_p         many thanks (and good night ?)
06:47 cait           Jo: :)
06:48 cait           but the twitter and live blogging skills could be improved a little! :P
06:48 francharb      well, the story of the day is :
06:49 Jo             cait: you are a cheeky woman.
06:49 cait           hm?
06:49 Jo             we are flat out here and talks are so interestring I forget to tweet
06:50 cait           I understand - but was constantly checking for news! :)
06:50 Jo             right off upstairs to find the water
06:50 Jo             i know - and i am sorry
06:51 francharb      i'm trying to download the koha-community repository to install koha on my computer. it's really slow and then masson tells me that there are about 15 people in the room that can give me a copy from their computer.... it makes sense but you know... if it's not complex, it's not funny... ;^)
06:51 cait           Jo: I was only teasing - don't worry :)
06:51 huginn         New commit(s) kohagit: Sorry pushed this by mistake when trying to fix Pauls permissions <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7a82e508f020aed3691222e08695a0f7cfd86b48>
06:51 Jo             i know you were only teasing cait :)
06:58 mtj_mumbai     rangi: about?
06:58 rangi          yep
06:59 mtj_mumbai     heya
06:59 mtj_mumbai     ive been playing with my bugzilla email script
07:00 mtj_mumbai     http://lists.kohaaloha.com/pipermail/patches/2011-November/thread.html
07:00 sekjal         hey, all: I'm going to implement the use of QA Contact on Bugzilla
07:00 rangi          yes, i got a crapload of bounce messages
07:00 mtj_mumbai     and have 'imported' 100 last PATCH attachments , to a test mail-list
07:00 rangi          yep, lots of ppl will have then got emails from it
07:01 rangi          confused a couple of people
07:01 sekjal         I haven't seen any opposition, and it won't remove any functionality (only add), so I'm taking QAM's Privilege on it
07:02 cait           sekjal++
07:03 mtj_mumbai     rangi:  how many emails did u get?
07:04 mtj_mumbai     i made a typo , but killed it after 10 attachments
07:04 rangi          got about 7
07:04 rangi          srdjan got 3
07:04 rangi          not sure who else got any
07:05 mtj_mumbai     liz and  owen got 1 each, and thats it...
07:06 mtj_mumbai     ah, an frederick
07:06 paul_p         sekjal++
07:06 paul_p         1st patches pushed
07:06 mtj_mumbai     so the scripts here....
07:07 sekjal         paul_p:  Huzzah!
07:07 mtj_mumbai     http://git.kohaaloha.com/?p=bugzilla-patch/.git;a=blob;f=bug-patch.pl
07:07 sekjal         Koha Bugs list added to Global Watchers; changing default QA contact to myself (for the next 6 months, at least :) )
07:07 paul_p         rangi, could you check everything is OK with my push ? I pushed 7069, 6414 and 6895
07:07 paul_p         (still having to update bugzilla, doing that now)
07:10 rangi          hmm i see you pushed the branches, but didnt merge?
07:12 paul_p         rangi, not sure I understand what you say here. What i did :
07:12 huginn         New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6895 : First attempt at fixing the diacritics bug <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=afaf7eaffa2b7e18675eb5d5a9fdd00fd31c5685> / Bug 7069: Put strings in "" instead of '' to fix the javascript not working when... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7ff9d9d03cc0efd07a8667b093927af4a9c3fb29> / Fix for Bug 6955, Toolbar on reading history broken <http://git.koha-co
07:12 paul_p         * git checkout -b new/bug_xxxx
07:12 paul_p         * git bz apply xxxx
07:12 paul_p         * git checkout master
07:12 paul_p         * git merge new/bug_xxxx
07:12 rangi          ah
07:12 paul_p         (then 2 push : one for the branch, one for master)
07:12 rangi          i push the branch
07:13 rangi          then fetch and merge it
07:13 rangi          then push master
07:13 paul_p         OK, so you push the koha-community.org branch, not your local one !
07:13 paul_p         s/push/merge/
07:13 rangi          yup
07:14 rangi          so that i get the clickable links at http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=summary
07:14 * druthb       waves to joann
07:14 joann          hey babe
07:14 cait           third nick for today ;)
07:14 cait           jransom, Jo, joann
07:14 paul_p         joann, long time no see :D
07:14 joann          I'm moving around
07:14 cait           lol
07:14 druthb         There.
07:15 paul_p         jo = the 1st floor jo, joann = the 3rd floor jo, jransom = I don't know ;-)
07:15 paul_p         time for lunch here ! see you later everybody
07:15 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_master build #508: STILL UNSTABLE in 49 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/508/
07:15 jenkins_koha   oleonard: Fix for Bug 5974 - Bogus auth check for "StaffMember" role
07:16 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5974 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Bogus auth check for "StaffMember" role
07:16 joann          oh so exciting - the Marathi translation has started - 1% done already!
07:16 druthb         No lunch for the RM until he gets the build working!
07:16 jenkins_koha   Starting build 509 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #491 16 j ago)
07:18 sekjal         druthb:  too late!
07:18 druthb         so I see.  But he says he'll debug better on a full stomach.  y'all go ahead; I'll be going with the girls shortly.
07:23 sekjal         mtj_mumbai: did you break bugs.k-c.org?  It's timing out for me
07:23 sekjal         or maybe it's just trying to tell me to go to lunch
07:24 cait           lunch
07:24 cait           go!
07:25 druthb         there they go.  :)  Just me in the hall now, and one of the local staff.
07:26 rangi          yeah someone broke bugs
07:31 Brooke         lunch!\
07:39 rangi          fixed it
07:39 cait           rangi++
07:40 rangi          202.159.226.114
07:44 rangi          whoever that is india
07:44 rangi          dont do whatever you just did again
07:44 rangi          someone with a mac
07:44 rangi          essentially dossed the box
07:46 reiveune       hello
07:48 druthb         reiveune: I hear from paul_p that I have you to thank for your MARC::Transform code.
07:48 alex_a         hi
07:49 reiveune       druthb: ok :)
07:49 druthb         reiveune: I've not used it, yet, but he pointed it out to me this morning as something that might be useful in my work.  and I think it will be!  :D
07:49 reiveune       thanks, yw
07:50 reiveune       druthb: I recommend using the latest vesrion 0.002003
07:51 druthb         lunch!
07:52 reiveune       druthb: call me if you have any questions
08:03 sekjal         clicking and clacking
08:03 sekjal         keyboards are the only sound
08:03 sekjal         this is a hackfest
08:03 mtj_mumbai     ps, twas not my mac that dossed bugzilla
08:04 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_master build #509: STILL UNSTABLE in 48 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/509/
08:04 jenkins_koha   * Chris Cormack: Sorry pushed this by mistake when trying to fix Pauls permissions
08:04 jenkins_koha   * maxime.pelletier: Use unitprice in neworder so that the value is saved in the database and so it will be the same field used as to receive shipments
08:04 jenkins_koha   * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6955, Toolbar on reading history broken
08:04 jenkins_koha   * maxime.pelletier: Bug 7069: Put strings in "" instead of '' to fix the javascript not working when the translated string has a ' in it.
08:04 jenkins_koha   * Chris Cormack: Bug 6895 : First attempt at fixing the diacritics bug
08:04 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6955 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Toolbar on reading history broken
08:04 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7069 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED , Javascript errors in tags/review
08:04 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6895 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , Diacritics in Pootle/po files are broken in source text
08:05 sekjal         I'm not sure how I could have taken it down... I don't think default assignee changes in BZ admin are that heavy duty
08:05 rangi          120 connections in 3 seconds
08:06 sekjal         that sounds more like mtj_mumbai's pattern than mine... but I won't point fingers :)
08:07 rangi          wound the max connections right down
08:07 rangi          shouldnt be able to OOM it again
08:08 sekjal         thanks, rangi
08:08 magnuse        namaskar and happy gbsd, #koha!
08:08 sekjal         QA Contact change implemented
08:08 sekjal         got 25 min before I present on Git to hackfesters
08:08 sekjal         what do to.... ah!
08:08 sekjal         QA!
08:08 mtj_mumbai     my connections to bugzilla are coming from my home box in nz
08:09 cait           sekjal: lots of acq things waiting for you :)
08:09 sekjal         :)
08:09 eythian        magnuse: just emailed you a fix for the translated packages building stuff
08:10 eythian        (well, emailed you that it has been fixed)
08:11 eythian        so, if you want to have a play with them again, go for it...
08:12 magnuse        very cool, eythian
08:12 sekjal         morning, magnuse!
08:12 magnuse        i'll see what i can do
08:12 magnuse        hiya sekjal
08:12 magnuse        eythian: any plans on upstreaming it soon? ;-)
08:12 eythian        cool. I did a test build, and it worked, though I haven't yet tested that package (got some other stuff that I want to work on for now)
08:13 eythian        when it's tested more :)
08:14 eythian        I may get time for that, maybe on the plane flight or something, but not sure.
08:15 * eythian      starts working on advanced Open Library covers integration now
08:16 cait           eythian++ :)
08:16 cait           morning magnuse :)
08:16 clrh           hello
08:19 magnuse        eythian++
08:19 magnuse        hiya cait
08:19 eythian        hi cait
08:25 paul_p         morning magnus !
08:26 magnuse        bonjour paul_p
08:26 magnuse        congrats on havong pushed the first patches
08:28 eythian        anandology: Khmer: Bug 7152
08:28 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7152 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Koha should make it easy for librarians to attach covers using Open Library
08:29 Khmar          Nice
08:33 magnuse        wow, that does sound cool!
08:33 dpavlin        eythian: ++
08:33 eythian        a while ago we talked about putting new code under the 'Koha' namespace rather than C4. Is that something we should still do?
08:34 * eythian      does it anyway
08:34 sekjal         eythian: what would the new module be?
08:35 magnuse        paul_p, rangi: candidates for marking "resolved fixed" would be bugs that have Status: "NEW, ASSIGNED, REOPENED" and "Patch Status: Patch Pushed" - right?
08:35 magnuse        there are a mere 342 of those: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/buglist.cgi?list_id=14517&field0-0-0=cf_patch_status&query_format=advanced&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=Patch%20Pushed
08:35 eythian        sekjal: OpenLibrary.pm - an interface into the Open Library APIs
08:35 cait           hm, can you search for patch pushed but not resolved?
08:36 magnuse        cait: then i think you would get the ones that are closed too?
08:36 rangi          yeah you would
08:37 jo             see my tweet
08:37 jo             that should earn me a slap i should think (its just too easy now)
08:37 sekjal         eythian:  what a strange naming choice ;)
08:38 eythian        sekjal: it's pretty creative alright
08:38 sekjal         ah, but whether to put that under Koha:: directly, or Koha::<<some other dir>>
08:39 eythian        that's a fairly easy thing to change in the future
08:39 rangi          eythian: the rule with Koha::
08:39 cait           magnuse: right
08:39 rangi          is it cant call modules in C4/
08:39 eythian        with the exception of Context, I hope
08:39 rangi          yep
08:39 rangi          cos that doesnt pull int 2018381304 other modules
08:39 eythian        then it's fine, all I need are some sysprefs
08:40 bg             hdl: you about?
08:41 paul_p         magnuse, right (for candidates to be "reso fixed")
08:42 paul_p         clrh, bg (Brendan Gallagher, bywatersolutions boss) will probably yell you soon, as will download/test our dev/solr branch. I told him he can ask you
08:42 bg             :)
08:43 clrh           yep he can :)
08:43 cait           hope he will not yell
08:43 cait           :)
08:43 magnuse        rangi, paul_p: maybe an idea to add an explanation of Koha:: to somewhere like http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Coding_Guidelines ?
08:43 magnuse        kia ora jransom
08:44 paul_p         rangi, ???
08:44 paul_p         sorry, not rangi.
08:44 paul_p         magnuse, ???
08:44 magnuse        maybe a thing for rangi, then?
08:45 rangi          theres a thread on koha-devel about it
08:45 Brooke         0/
08:45 Brooke         mmm curry
08:48 druthb         god morgen, magnuse!
08:49 magnuse        hiya druthb
08:49 * druthb       sips some water to put out the fire in her mouth.
08:50 cait           will not help
08:50 cait           try milk
08:51 druthb         don't have any...so I'll have to make do.
08:51 * magnuse      has heard water makes it worse...
08:52 asaurat        oil would be better than water =)
08:52 asaurat        anything fat, maybe cheese :D
08:53 cait           yep
08:53 cait           listen to him
08:53 cait           asaurat: any news on the suggestions bug? :)
08:55 asaurat        cait: not yet, but I may take care of it today, I'm going to send a few patches
08:55 cait           ok, waiting to test :)
08:56 cait           would certainly be good to get that fixed before 3.6.1
08:57 asaurat        ok!
08:58 cait           it's an evil bug and I think it affects other features like the suggestion mails too
08:58 cait           basically breaks the process
08:59 Brooke         broken--
09:01 eythian        Khmar: anandology: what do you call the open library ID in API replies? OLID? Something else? I just want to match it in my code.
09:02 anandology     eythian: we usually have key as /books/OL1234M
09:03 eythian        but if I were to perform a search, what would the API give me back?
09:03 anandology     eythian: do you mean the search-or-create API?
09:04 eythian        yeah
09:05 eythian        basically, what do you call the OLID whenever you refer to it in APIs?
09:06 anandology     we usually have a field called "key". that is will be something like /books/OL1244M.
09:07 Khmar          We just call it the "key" since that's all we use. But I think we'll need something more descriptive than that for your use.
09:07 eythian        OK
09:07 eythian        yeah
09:07 eythian        I'll go with 'olid'
09:07 Khmar          Sounds good.
09:07 eythian        cool
09:18 cait           97 on the sign off list now!
09:18 cait           I am sure we can get that down to 80!
09:19 magnuse        yay
09:21 * Brooke       passes out beer to make things a reality.
09:26 jenkins_koha   Starting build 510 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #491 16 j ago)
09:27 eythian        paul_p: I don't know python, but want me to see if I can scrape up someone who does to help you with that issue?
09:35 huginn         New commit(s) kohagit: Follow-up patch : use the subfield associated with items.barcode <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=61e1eeee84083f835a85d43128f4b6cbeef636dd> / Bug 6963: Corrects a problem when a new order is created with a duplicate barcode. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=327be442bd6e63e5ff8c0a5e2461ae836e8deffb>
09:37 huginn         New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6751] Link in readingrec.pl to export a barcode file <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6751>
09:44 Brooke         the bywater demo is acting up again :(
09:47 huginn         New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7076: Lists render OPAC XSLT on staff side <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a0a9368beccd1748e720966f25869259a30e68f2>
09:48 bg             tea and lunch break :)
09:49 bg             whoops tea and coffee break
09:50 jo             brooke: are you going to stay to help Irma?
10:09 huginn         New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7153] Show Open Library as Search Target in "More Searches" in OPAC detail page <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7153>
10:10 Amit_Gupta     heya mtj_mumbai
10:10 bg             yo Amit_Gupta
10:10 Amit_Gupta     heya bg
10:10 julian_m       bg, http://descartes.biblibre.com/docs/solr/en/x14060.html or http://drupal.org/node/967628 (this one use debian packages)
10:15 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_master build #510: STILL UNSTABLE in 48 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/510/
10:15 jenkins_koha   * frederick.capovilla: Bug 6963: Corrects a problem when a new order is created with a duplicate barcode.
10:15 jenkins_koha   * frederick.capovilla: Follow-up patch : use the subfield associated with items.barcode
10:15 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6963 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, fcapovilla, ASSIGNED , When creating a new order, the item isn't added if its barcode already exists in the items table.
10:15 jenkins_koha   Starting build 511 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #491 16 j ago)
10:16 cait           hm unhappy jenkins
10:21 eythian        sekjal: git commit -a is arguably bad practice.
10:21 eythian        IMO, better if people don't know about it.
10:21 sekjal         too late now
10:22 * druthb       giggles from her roost up high
10:25 druthb         @wunder mumbai
10:26 huginn         druthb: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 33.0�C (3:10 PM IST on November 04, 2011). Conditions: Smoke. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: 20.0�C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Falling).
10:26 hdl            bg: ?
10:26 druthb         @wunder sioux falls, SD
10:26 huginn         druthb: The current temperature in Sioux Falls, South Dakota is 1.0�C (4:56 AM CDT on November 04, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: -6.0�C. Windchill: -3.0�C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Falling).  Wind Advisory in effect from 10 am to 7 PM CDT Saturday... 
10:26 druthb         whoa!  Big difference!
10:26 bg             hey hdl - can you see if a message from Jesse@bywatersolutions.com - to the mailing list is hung for moderation?
10:26 bg             sorry to the koha-patches
10:26 bg             list
10:26 bg             not the main mailing list
10:28 hdl            koha-patches ?
10:29 druthb         uhoh.  sekjal is showing nano now.  gonna confuse 'em with that editor...  :P
10:30 magnuse        bbl
10:32 bg             yes hdl - JesseM sent a patch to koha-patches@list.koha-community.org and it's stuck in moderation
10:37 Brooke         o/
10:39 druthb         \o
10:43 huginn         New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5945] can't search patron's email anymore <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5945>
10:52 cait           93 bugs waiting for sign-off now !
10:53 cait           come on, I want to see an eight in front :)
10:53 * Brooke       cheers Cait on
10:53 paul_p         cait++
10:54 cait           it's not been me
10:54 cait           only trying to cheer you all on :)
10:54 clrh           is there a way to get the bugzilla status in command line ?
10:55 clrh           or bugzilla information about a bug
10:55 eythian        clrh: not that I know, but if you know python, you could look into git-bz
10:56 clrh           I use git-bz since 5 minutes but I don't see what to do
10:59 cait           clrh: whatI use is
10:59 clrh           maybe http://search.cpan.org/~bmc/WWW-Bugzilla-1.5/WWW/Bugzilla.pm :)
10:59 cait           git bz apply <bugnumber>
10:59 huginn         New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5885 : UNIMARC XSLT changes <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=cc6c1acb38b8797f71f37ebfd7b26ebcac6806ef>
10:59 clrh           hello cait  :)
10:59 cait           git bz attach -e (to open an editor and mark things obsolete) <bugnumber> HEAD
11:00 cait           hi claire :)
11:00 cait           there are more commands, but I have not looked into them yet
11:01 clrh           yep but I don't want to push information for the moment, juste "retrieve" without going into a browser
11:03 bg             thanks hdl++
11:03 bg             :D
11:03 bg             I hope all is well with you
11:03 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_master build #511: STILL UNSTABLE in 48 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/511/
11:03 jenkins_koha   ian.walls: Bug 7076: Lists render OPAC XSLT on staff side
11:03 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7076 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED , shelfpage renders OPAC XSLT bloc for intranet Lists
11:03 jenkins_koha   Starting build 512 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #491 16 j ago)
11:04 cait           JesseM: hi Jesse, seeing your patch - can you plz give it a bug number? I have opened a bug for changes to the about page
11:05 cait           JesseM: it's 7143
11:05 sekjal         networking fail :(
11:05 cait           hm?
11:06 sekjal         cait: I can't download a patch from bugs.koha-community.org on my VM
11:06 cait           oh!
11:10 huginn         New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6989 Patron categories not properly displayed if not pure ASCII <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d998166ea30e9d798c97d457afe39c748eed38ae>
11:11 bg             cait++  ##just cause we love you :)
11:11 cait           oh
11:12 bg             @karma NateC
11:12 huginn         bg: Karma for "NateC" has been increased 2 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 1.
11:12 bg             YAY
11:12 cait           um thx :)
11:19 eythian        Khmar: my $req = HTTP::Request->new(GET => 'http://openlibrary.org/api/books?bibkeys=OLID:' . uri_escape($olid) . '&format=json'); is the sort of thing I should be doing for instances where I have the OLID already, right?
11:23 eythian        ah, jscmd=data maybe
11:25 asaurat        cait: should a suggestion being ordered change from 'ACCEPTED' to 'CLAIMED' status ?
11:25 asaurat        looks like the pb is here
11:25 cait           pb?
11:26 cait           asaurat: I have never heard of claimed outside of claims
11:26 cait           I think it shoudl go from asked to accepted or rejected
11:26 cait           and from accecpted to ordered later on
11:26 cait           an dperhaps from ordered to available - but not sure how much of that is in the code
11:27 asaurat        ok, "ordered" then... the fact is, when a notice is added to the basket, it keeps the "accepted" status
11:29 cait           ah, and still hsows up in the list?
11:29 cait           this used to work
11:31 asaurat        ok I see how to correct this, I think, and it should fix the e-mail problem too
11:31 huginn         New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7061: unnecessary global variables declared in C4::SQLHelper <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=36d8e5df96d17df3d19a4693fff2ba52504fae51>
11:32 cait           asaurat++
11:33 druthb         we're heading out!
11:34 asaurat        cait: I'll set the ordered items to "ORDERED", as it is now a "CLAIMED" status is mentionned instead, and not used anywhere else in the code... when should a suggestion become "claimed" ? any difference with "ordered" ?
11:34 cait           hm perhaps it's only a weird term
11:34 cait           we only use claim normally when something is late
11:35 cait           orders can get claimed, I am not aware how to do that for suggestions
11:35 cait           and we have no status yet for the orders
11:35 cait           perhaps paul know how this was intended to work?
11:35 asaurat        ok, I see, I'll check that
11:35 asaurat        thx
11:36 sekjal         okay, time to go.  </hackfest>
11:36 cait           oooh
11:36 cait           over already?
11:38 sekjal         cait: at least the official, at VPM hackfest
11:38 sekjal         I'm sure folks will group together tonight and keep working
11:51 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_master build #512: STILL UNSTABLE in 47 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/512/
11:51 jenkins_koha   paul.poulain: Bug 5885 : UNIMARC XSLT changes
11:51 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5885 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , UNIMARC XSLT changes
11:51 jenkins_koha   Starting build 513 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #491 16 j ago)
12:17 pastebot       "nengard" at 98.114.30.184 pasted "Looking for some report help" (28 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/103
12:17 nengard        cait my report genius - are you around?
12:25 nengard        @later tell cait any ideas on this one? "nengard" at 98.114.30.184 pasted "Looking for some report help" (28 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/103
12:25 huginn         nengard: The operation succeeded.
12:39 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_master build #513: STILL UNSTABLE in 48 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/513/
12:39 jenkins_koha   * f.demians: Bug 6989 Patron categories not properly displayed if not pure ASCII
12:39 jenkins_koha   * ian.walls: Bug 7061: unnecessary global variables declared in C4::SQLHelper
12:40 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6989 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, ASSIGNED , Patron categories not properly displayed if not pure ASCII
12:40 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7061 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED , SQLHelper has unused global variables
12:44 oleonard       Hi bug-squashers
12:48 clrh           I found it, I like it, I am doing a wiki page! https://github.com/williamh/pybugz
12:52 jcamins_away   nengard: I don't really have time to look right now, but it seems to me you should be able to avoid the subquery.
12:54 nengard        i'm all for that
12:57 jcamins_away   However, keeping the subquery, I think you need to explicitly state that type is itemtypes.type (assuming it is).
12:57 jcamins_away   t.type, rather.
12:58 * jcamins_away heads into the city.
12:58 jcamins_away   Good luck!
13:04 farrukh        how can we hide sql i custom reports
13:04 farrukh        please help
13:06 nengard        @later tell jcamins it wasn't the missing t. - it was the fact that type wasn't a field!!
13:06 huginn         nengard: The operation succeeded.
13:06 nengard        @later tell cait I think I got it :)
13:06 huginn         nengard: The operation succeeded.
13:07 Danielle       o/
13:10 gmcharlt       @later tell paul_p give me a ping if you're still having trouble with gitmaster
13:10 huginn         gmcharlt: The operation succeeded.
13:13 farrukh        how can we hide sql i custom reports please help
13:19 oleonard       farrukh: Do you mean you want to hide the SQL statement from the report results screen?
13:20 cait           there is a class or id for that in 3.6
13:20 oleonard       You could add this to your IntranetUserCSS system pref: #sql_output { display:none; }
13:20 * cait         just came back
13:20 oleonard       (assuming that's the way it is in your version, as cait says)
13:21 oleonard       cait: Is that new in 3.6?
13:21 cait           I put that in - but not sure when
13:21 cait           could be 3.4
13:21 cait           wanted to hide it too, added the pre and the id
13:29 farrukh        @oleonard yes
13:29 huginn         farrukh: downloading the Perl source
13:29 oleonard       farrukh: huginn (a bot) complains because you don't need the "@" :)
13:30 farrukh        ok
13:30 farrukh        i will not use @ next
13:31 farrukh        oleonard can you help me on my problom
13:31 oleonard       farrukh: Did you understand what I suggested about the IntranetUserCSS preference?
13:31 farrukh        i missed it got myinternet DC
13:32 oleonard       farrukh: You could try adding this to your IntranetUserCSS system pref: #sql_output { display:none; }
13:32 farrukh        can you come again
13:34 farrukh        yup this a good solution ....  i think it will definitely work
13:34 farrukh        thanx i will test it now and update you
13:44 oleonard       @later tell paul_p I can't reproduce the error you describe on Bug 5280
13:44 huginn         oleonard: The operation succeeded.
13:48 libsysguy      morning #Koha
13:49 asaurat        hello libsysguy
14:01 huginn         New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6893] Order from suggestion does not remove suggestion from 'accepted' list <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6893> / [Bug 7154] Group borrower attributes and link between patron category and attribute <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7154>
14:06 jcamins_away   nengard: that would explain it.
14:07 jcamins        nengard: I wondered whether type was a field, but told myself that surely you'd checked that. ;)
14:08 nengard        hehe
14:08 nengard        never assume i've done anything :)
14:08 nengard        I'm working on less sleep than normal here
14:08 jcamins        Heh. Are you off training somewhere exciting?
14:14 wizzyrea       mornin
14:14 rhcl           yep
14:15 * jcamins      vehemently denies that assertion.
14:17 talljoy        too cold for me.  35 degrees F in Texas this am.
14:17 * talljoy      looks for her parka
14:17 wizzyrea       @wunder lawrence, ks
14:17 huginn         wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 1.5�C (9:15 AM CDT on November 04, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: -0.0�C. Windchill: 2.0�C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1024.9 hPa (Falling).
14:17 wizzyrea       br.
14:17 talljoy        yup.
14:17 jcamins        @wunder 11375
14:17 huginn         jcamins: The current temperature in Middle Village, Queens, New York is 10.1�C (10:16 AM EDT on November 04, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 4.0�C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016.1 hPa (Steady).
14:17 talljoy        @wunder Fort worth, tx
14:17 wizzyrea       doesn't feel that cold though
14:17 huginn         talljoy: The current temperature in Riverside, Fort Worth, Texas is 5.0�C (9:14 AM CDT on November 04, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: -0.0�C. Windchill: 5.0�C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1024.9 hPa (Steady).  Freeze warning in effect until 9 am CDT this morning... 
14:18 jcamins        Weird. It's colder in Texas.
14:18 rhcl           talljoy: are you originally from TX?
14:18 wizzyrea       oh, ha, because the windchill is *higher* than actual temp.
14:18 talljoy        NO
14:18 talljoy        i am from the east coast.
14:18 talljoy        Jersey and Virginia
14:18 talljoy        my northern accent cancelled out my southern accent leaving me with none.
14:18 rhcl           and TX is too cold. OK then.
14:19 talljoy        i know.  i'm a wuss.
14:20 talljoy        I live in Texas because it's cheap to live, lots of wide open spaces and it's generally warm.
14:20 talljoy        oh...and my true love lives here.
14:20 rhcl           I used to live in San Antonio. Wish I still did.
14:20 magnuse        @wunder boo
14:20 rhcl           I used to live in San Angelo. Glad I still don't.
14:20 huginn         magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 9.0�C (2:50 PM CET on November 04, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 3.0�C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady).
14:20 talljoy        lol.  rhcl.  i got that.
14:20 talljoy        not much in San Angelo.
14:21 jcamins        It's warmer in Bodo, Norway, than it is in Texas.
14:21 talljoy        the world as i know it has ceased to exist
14:21 rhcl           nope, but they did have a Po' Folks restaurant that I miss.
14:21 talljoy        LMAO.  Po' Folks
14:21 wizzyrea       talljoy: we call that the 'regionless midwestern dialect'
14:21 talljoy        i remember that chain.  haven't been to one in YEARS
14:21 * wizzyrea     speaks the RMD
14:22 talljoy        wizzyrea: i got it.  My boys were born here in TX and they can create about 4 syllables out of the word 'pants' and 'eggs'
14:22 rhcl           http://www.pofolks.com  A small chain that sadly seems to be in decline
14:22 talljoy        p -ay-ai-nt-sa
14:22 wizzyrea       I can't even begin to get 4 syllables out of eggs
14:22 talljoy        let me show...
14:22 wizzyrea       lol
14:22 talljoy        ay-ya-gg-sa
14:22 talljoy        it's hilarious.
14:22 wizzyrea       wow.
14:23 talljoy        then we visit back east and man. boy howdy. does their accent stand out.
14:23 wizzyrea       hehe, you just said boy howdy.
14:23 talljoy        yup. sho nuf did lil lady
14:24 libsysguy      geez I come back and you guys are poking fun at my state :-\
14:24 talljoy        my state too.
14:24 rhcl           my ex-state
14:24 talljoy        at least for the long short term.
14:24 libsysguy      oh talljoy i didn't know you were in texas
14:24 talljoy        ayup
14:24 talljoy        fort worth
14:25 libsysguy      hey that is where im at this weekend!
14:25 libsysguy      drove in last night
14:25 talljoy        i'm at Avoca coffee on Magnolia, working!  swing by - free wifi
14:26 talljoy        good coffee too.  lol
14:27 libsysguy      ha im looking it up to see how far it is from me
14:29 libsysguy      how long are you going to be there today?
14:30 trea           i lived in TX for about 5 years. it was enough.
14:30 talljoy        libsysguy: i'm here until i get hungry enough to move on for lunch or they kick me out.
14:31 * jcamins      could find Texas on a map.
14:31 talljoy        most everyone in the world could.  most recognizable shape out there (country wise that is)
14:31 jcamins        talljoy: yep.
14:32 trea           i still occasionally respond to people as "yessir"
14:32 libsysguy      yeah exactly…but just be careful who you tell…otherwise they ask you if you ride a horse to work...
14:32 libsysguy      i still do :-\
14:32 libsysguy      i used to get licks if i didnt…so its engraned
14:33 * magnuse      sits about 3 meters away from a beautiful woodpecker
14:33 * jcamins      can see the wilds of Riverside Drive where he sits right now. Lots of untamed automobiles there. ;)
14:34 * talljoy      is about 3 yards from a barista making a large soy latte.  mmmmm
14:35 libsysguy      *is about 1 yard away from a wild Swede*
14:35 talljoy        not me.  i'm only 1/2 swede
14:36 libsysguy      haha really?
14:36 libsysguy      thats what Anna is too
14:36 talljoy        ah yup.  i only have the height and last name to prove it.
14:37 talljoy        the blonde part got bred out of us by my mom's welsh black hair
14:37 libsysguy      Anna wants to know if you speak Swedish
14:37 talljoy        nope.  spanish.  my mother was raised in argentina
14:37 talljoy        lol
14:37 magnuse        tj�nare grabbar
14:37 * wizzyrea     is married to a 1/2 swede
14:37 talljoy        1/2 swedes unite
14:37 magnuse        (it's probably this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Spotted_Woodpecker)
14:38 talljoy        wizzyrea is that the half swede ^
14:38 talljoy        lol
14:38 talljoy        oh...that's your woodpecker friend.  context is everything.....
14:38 trea           man i turn my back on you guys for a minute.... :D
14:38 wizzyrea       oh my.
14:38 * libsysguy    is realizing that we are under invasion by half Swedes
14:38 magnuse        better to be married to a 1/2 swede than to 1/2 a swede, i guess ;-)
14:39 magnuse        yup
14:39 magnuse        yay
14:39 magnuse        tj�nare trea
14:39 trea           i'm at least 75% swede. definitely maybe.
14:40 libsysguy      libsysguy
14:40 wahanui        rumour has it libsysguy is Koha's hottest developer or partying with swedes on his deck
14:40 libsysguy      I can really party now :)
14:40 trea           idk magnuse
14:41 wizzyrea       well I grew up in a swedish town, have eaten kringler, ost kaka, potato sausage, and lutefisk, have worn a swedish costume and done traditional swedish dance, and been to sweden, norway, and finland. So, I'm honorary.
14:41 wizzyrea       :P
14:41 jcamins        You've eaten lutefisk? Wow. Brave.
14:42 libsysguy      ^^
14:42 libsysguy      Even Anna thinks its gross
14:42 trea           i like lutefisk. but then again, i suppose i come by that naturally.
14:42 * magnuse      can think of worse things than lutefisk...
14:42 * jcamins      will stick with Norwegian-inspired pizza, thanks just the same.
14:43 wizzyrea       I'm sure that I've sampled many other delightful treats from scandinavia too, but I sure don't know the names of them.
14:43 wizzyrea       pickled herring
14:43 talljoy        my favorite is limpa bread.
14:43 magnuse        surstr�mming
14:43 talljoy        i remember going to the swedish bakery as a kid in jersey with my dad every saturday am
14:43 magnuse        that's one of the really weird swedish ones
14:44 talljoy        weird?  i love it.
14:44 magnuse        i never actually tasted it
14:44 talljoy        LOVE it.
14:44 talljoy        i've made it myself at home.  one year i did a swedish christmas for my boys
14:44 magnuse        tried to once, but the can was bulging at both ends
14:45 wizzyrea       though there are really no better meatballs than swedish meatballs.
14:45 talljoy        with frilly toothpicks
14:45 wizzyrea       that kind of hinders cramming as many into your mouth at once as you can.
14:45 wizzyrea       now I want meatballs.
14:46 trea           Potatiskorv
14:46 wizzyrea       ^^ yum
14:46 talljoy        i'll settle for some pepperkaker and kanelbulle
14:46 trea           there's a market in Lindsborg that sells the best potatiskorv
14:47 wizzyrea       and it's all home made
14:47 wizzyrea       nom nom nom nom
14:47 libsysguy      So anna says she she makes really good lussekatter
14:47 libsysguy      she has been reading the chat :p
14:47 * wizzyrea     waves at Anna
14:48 libsysguy      *waives back*
14:48 talljoy        o/
14:48 trea           o/
14:48 trea           mmmm lussekatter
14:49 libsysguy      they are yummy
14:49 talljoy        i'm getting hungry.
14:49 * magnuse      too
14:49 wizzyrea       oh, lingonberries too
14:49 magnuse        so sounds like kohacon in sweden would get some votes? ;-)
14:49 talljoy        ya
14:49 wizzyrea       eff ya it would
14:50 talljoy        as long as it was summer.  :-)
14:50 libsysguy      just had cinnamon rasin bread with cream cheese mmm
14:50 jcamins        Helsinki would get my vote, too.
14:50 wizzyrea       really anywhere in scandinavia
14:50 talljoy        denmark
14:50 trea           or norway :D
14:50 * talljoy      thinks we got them all.
14:51 oleonard       But now we have to wait so long...
14:51 talljoy        is 2013 planned yet?
14:51 * oleonard     thinks we'll have to start having KohaCon 4 times a year
14:51 NCARLibrary    once again, i arrive to find people talking about food...
14:51 NCARLibrary    and travel?
14:51 talljoy        ayup
14:52 magnuse        well, i think koha needs a bit more of foothold in scandinavia before anyone will volunteer to run kohacon...
14:52 magnuse        talljoy: nope, no plans for 2013 yet
14:52 oleonard       Does the US get 2013? Or South America? Africa? Antarctica?
14:53 magnuse        well, the only rule is that no country gets it 2 years in a row
14:53 NCARLibrary    Title is to <<biblio.title>> AS Issue Number is to WHAT?
14:53 jcamins        magnuse: I thought the rule was no region got it two years in a row?
14:53 * oleonard     thinks New Zealand and India are suspiciously close to each other :P
14:53 NCARLibrary    (i'm working on my Claim Notice)
14:54 magnuse        i dont think that has been decided in any formal way
14:54 talljoy        NCARLibrary: is that itemnumber?
14:55 wizzyrea       NCARLibrary: you are working with serials?
14:55 NCARLibrary    I want it to spit out a whatever's in the "Issue Number" field for a Serial. (V2 N11)
14:55 NCARLibrary    yeah
14:56 * talljoy      backs away from serials.....  wizzyrea, i give you the floor
14:56 jwagner        NCARLibrary, depending on your data you probably want either items.enumchron or items.copynumber
14:56 NCARLibrary    alright, i'll try both
14:56 jwagner        enumchron if your data is clean and tidy :-)
14:57 jwagner        copynumber if ravening hordes of free spirits have been entering data
14:57 jcamins        NCARLibrary: and if it's not in enumchron, you really want to think about moving it to enumchron because that's where it should be.
14:57 wizzyrea       ^^ sounds like most of our librarians
14:57 * talljoy      curses those data sprites
15:05 NCARLibrary    okay, my claims notice looks like this: <<biblio.title>> <<items.enumchron>> <<items.copynumber>>
15:05 NCARLibrary    (separated by hard returns, actually)
15:05 NCARLibrary    And it spits out just the titles
15:05 wizzyrea       not all fields are available to the notices
15:05 NCARLibrary    oh
15:05 NCARLibrary    bummer
15:08 NCARLibrary    okay, new Serials question.
15:09 NCARLibrary    in the area where i check serials in (not sure what to call it),
15:10 NCARLibrary    there's a status column (arrived, late, expected, etc.)
15:10 NCARLibrary    when a subscription is cancelled, i no longer want it to "expect" any issues.
15:10 * magnuse      thinks it might be called "receiving" serials
15:10 NCARLibrary    But I can't turn that off!
15:10 NCARLibrary    (right, the "receiving" area)
15:12 NCARLibrary    I imagine there's nothing to be done about it.
15:15 jcamins        NCARLibrary: can't you just change the end date of your subscription?
15:16 NCARLibrary    i did.  and it does say Subscription Expired in the Notes field. But it won't stop Expecting issues.
15:16 jcamins        Hm.
15:17 jcamins        Is it generating new ones, though, or is it just the ones that were already expected?
15:18 NCARLibrary    It won't generate new ones unless I choose "Arrived" on the Expected one.
15:18 jcamins        I'm out of ideas.
15:18 jcamins        Sorry.
15:19 NCARLibrary    Yeah, I figured it'll hafta wait for someone to decide that it's worth fixing.
15:19 NCARLibrary    future upgrades...
15:19 NCARLibrary    It's not a huge deal.  It's just annoying cause I get titles showing up in my Claims list that shouldn't be there.
15:20 NCARLibrary    signing off...
15:20 wahanui        i heard signing off was a great idea!
15:22 magnuse        talking of which - 92 bugs still need signing off...
15:28 clrh           do you use perltidy everytime you sent a patch?
15:28 clrh           (juste to know if I have to)
15:31 magnuse        clrh: i think we ought to, so getting in the habit of doing it is probably a good idea...
15:32 clrh           ok magnuse let's go for notidy without option :)
15:32 jcamins        clrh: I think there's a wiki page explaining what to do in terms of perltidy.
15:33 clrh           yep I see it http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Perltidy
15:34 NCARLibrary    would someone pls remind me where one goes to enter new feature suggestions?
15:34 NCARLibrary    somewhere on the wiki, i imagine, but i can't find it.
15:34 oleonard       bugzilla?
15:34 wahanui        bugzilla is probably found at http://bugs.koha-community.org
15:34 NCARLibrary    ok.  it's not really a bug, per se.
15:34 oleonard       enhancement bug
15:34 wahanui        i heard enhancement bug was one step above wishing it silently to one's self.
15:35 NCARLibrary    haha
15:35 NCARLibrary    i'll wish it aloud as i enter it then.  perhaps that'll help.
15:36 NCARLibrary    and maybe drip a few drops of blood from my finger onto some kind of animal bone.
15:41 rhcl           I think we might try to send a couple of people to Edinburg. Anybody want to arrange a side trip for some trout or salmon fishing? I've been checking, it looks expensive, but it's not your home area for anybody but Slef.
15:42 jcamins        rhcl: fishing?
15:42 rhcl           ah, yea. fishing
15:42 jcamins        rhcl: shouldn't you be golfing?
15:43 rhcl           golfing? golfing? what in the world? I don't have the plaid pants and mallets for it
15:43 jcamins        (if you're in Scotland)
15:43 rhcl           salmon fishing
15:44 jcamins        rhcl: sorry, I'm still stuck on the fact that you're not planning to spend all your free time in Scotland golfing. Give me a moment to get used to the idea. ;)
15:45 * oleonard     would probably have to be on the moon to be convinced to golf
15:45 magnuse        anyone up for some whiskey-tasting=
15:45 * jcamins      doesn't golf either, actually, but that's what everyone does in Scotland, apparently.
15:45 magnuse        s/=/\?/
15:45 oleonard       magnuse: As long as it's not right before hackfest ;)
15:45 jcamins        magnuse: there's a Whiskey Museum right on the Royal Mile.
15:45 rhcl           Scottish salmon. http://lobsterfacts.livelob.com/images/chinook.gif
15:45 magnuse        yay
15:46 rhcl           where's slef? We need to talk to hiim
15:46 * magnuse      thought chinook was found in northern america
15:46 oleonard       slef is at some sort of conference today
15:46 rhcl           in context the text says that is supposed to be a scottish salmon
15:47 magnuse        89 bugs need signoff - woohoo!
15:47 rhcl           web page of The Scottish Salmon Producers' Organisation
15:48 magnuse        "Chinook are an anadromous fish native to the north Pacific Ocean and the river systems of western North America ranging from California to Alaska. They are also native to Asian rivers ranging from northern Japan to the the Palyavaam River in the Siberian far east, although only the Kamchatka Peninsula supports relatively persistent native populations. They have been introduced to other parts of the world, including New Zealand and the Great L
15:48 magnuse        akes. "
15:48 magnuse        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinook_salmon
15:48 rhcl           Barbequed Scottish Salmon with Marinated Summer Vegetables   - http://weblogs.wpix.com/news/local/morningnews/blogs/2009/04/great_scot_cooking.html
15:56 asaurat        cait: sent a patch for bug 6893, the bug 7094 may be closely linked but I didn't test it
15:56 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6893 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, adrien.saurat, ASSIGNED , Order from suggestion does not remove suggestion from 'accepted' list
15:56 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7094 major, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW , Ordering from a suggestion does not trigger notification mail (ORDERED)
15:56 cait           thx :)
15:57 asaurat        you're welcome :)
15:59 cait           hi paul, hi mr robin
16:00 jcamins        Hello KohaConners and cait.
16:01 cait           hi jcamins :)
16:04 magnuse        i think this is the salmon you 'd find in scotland: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salmo_salar same as in norway
16:05 talljoy        are we still talking food?
16:05 jcamins        talljoy: I thought we'd taken a break. Much to my stomach's relief, since I didn't want to eat lunch quite yet, and all the talk of food was making me hungry.
16:05 cait           I missed the food talk?
16:05 cait           on noes!
16:06 talljoy        lol
16:06 talljoy        i see salmon on the menu
16:06 talljoy        i mean in the chat log
16:06 cait           hehe
16:06 jcamins        talljoy: rhcl is trying to muster up a posse for a salmon fishing trip in Edinburgh.
16:06 talljoy        ah!
16:07 jcamins        talljoy: meanwhile, magnuse is mustering up a posse for whiskey tasting, and I was muddying the waters by suggesting that people should go golfing without me.
16:07 talljoy        i'm up for whiskey tasting
16:07 talljoy        golfing. meh
16:07 talljoy        salmon fishing no.  salmon eating yes.
16:08 jcamins        I went to a really excellent Turkish restaurant in Scotland where I had salmon.
16:08 * magnuse      thinks scotland could be the scene for one h*** of a roadtrip... ;-)
16:09 cait           i did one a few years ago - was great :)
16:17 reiveune       bye
16:18 Oak            kia ora #koha
16:18 asaurat        auf wiedersehen #koha !
16:19 cait           hi asaurat :)
16:20 cait           hm, meant bye...
16:20 cait           :)
16:21 Oak            hello miss cait
16:21 rhcl           I think we need to resume our fishing trip planning for next Monday/Tuesday when slef might be on board.
16:22 rhcl           And whiskey drinking...
16:22 * jcamins      probably won't go fishing... too many visits to make if I'm going to be in Edinburgh just a short while.
16:23 rhcl           I've heard there are castles in Scotland. Since there is a lack of castles in Missouri I might be interested in checking out one in Scotland if there are any open to the public.
16:23 jcamins        rhcl: lots!
16:23 jcamins        rhcl: there's even one at the top of Castle Hill.
16:23 rhcl           see, there you go...
16:23 rhcl           'magin that
16:25 Oak            oh well
16:25 jcamins        rhcl: also, Saint Andrews is an easy day trip from Edinburgh. They have lovely cathedral ruins.
16:26 jcamins        You could also visit the Castle of Aaaaaaaaaaaaaahhh, though I don't recall exactly where it is.
16:28 cait           lol
16:28 cait           ah?
16:28 wahanui        it has been said that ah is he here?
16:28 cait           rhcl:  lots of castles
16:29 cait           you can vist one in edinburgh - but it's quite expensive
16:29 rhcl           I suppose everything in Europe will seem expensive to me.
16:29 jcamins        cait: yes, from Monty Python.
16:29 jcamins        :)
16:29 liw            the Stirling castle is ok; I liked the Tantallone and Linlithgow ones better, even though they're ruins; the Inchcolm island (day trip, you go there with a ferry) is awesome
16:30 rhcl           What's the exchange rate these days? 1GBP = 39.4 USD ????
16:30 cait           :)
16:30 jcamins        1GBP = 1.60USD.
16:30 cait           adk google
16:30 cait           1 usd in gbp
16:30 rhcl           oh, I didn't realize so favorable
16:31 jcamins        It's been remarkably steady recently. Between 1.54 and 1.65 for months.
16:41 * chris_n      finds one stupid side-effect to 'sudo'
16:42 chris_n        screwing up the sudoers file makes for a miserable day
16:43 rhcl           shouldn't be too hard to rebuild?
16:43 rhcl           I "sudo" up to a certain point then I do the evil "sudo su"
16:44 talljoy        ah root.....the one to rule them all
16:45 rhcl           I was training a new tech yesterday...I kept telling him at one point to just cat the sudoers file, and he couldn't make sense out of "sudoers"--that that was really the filename
16:57 chris_n        fortunately its an EC2 instance which has not progressed too far in its journey to become a Koha server
16:57 chris_n        so I'll just zap it and start over
16:57 chris_n        virtualization++
17:05 cait           hehe
17:05 cait           one goe the other comes back :)
17:12 huginn         New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6838] Filtering and pagination in subscriptions table <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6838>
17:18 cait           still a few hours of gbsd here in europe :)
17:18 cait           current number of bugs is awaiting sign-off is 89!
17:19 * chris_n      hands cait more coffee
17:20 cait           ah thx, I have chocolate tea :)
17:20 jcamins        Chocolate tea?
17:20 jcamins        Mmm.
17:20 cait           mmmm is right :)
17:20 chris_n        interesting
17:20 wahanui        interesting is probably sometimes bad or sometimes good
17:20 chris_n        really... it all depends wahanui
17:31 libsysguy      anybody know of a IsItemCheckedOut function
17:32 jcamins        Wasn't sekjal doing something with that?
17:33 libsysguy      im not sure…I just need it for a script im writing
17:33 libsysguy      and was going to be lazy and use a function
17:33 libsysguy      instead of querying the issues tdable
17:33 jcamins        Definitely better to use existing functionality.
17:34 libsysguy      indeed
17:41 clrh           bye all
18:30 * jcamins      didn't even know about the existence of j2a.pl.
18:44 wizzyrea       heh
18:44 huginn         New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7157] Improve the j2a.pl cronjob <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7157>
18:44 wizzyrea       it's because it was functionally useless :P
18:44 wizzyrea       not so much now
18:45 cait           yay wizzyrea++ :)
18:45 cait           wizzyrea: what about celebrating with a sign off? :)
18:45 wizzyrea       :)
18:45 wizzyrea       I could probably do that
18:45 cait           we still have gbsd... ;)
18:53 wizzyrea       did you have one in mind?
18:57 cait           nope
18:57 cait           only advertising gbsd
18:57 cait           I am working on 6504
18:57 wizzyrea       bug 6504
18:57 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6504 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, srdjan, ASSIGNED , no way to enter shipping price in acq
18:57 jcamins        GBSD: what bugs did YOU squash today?
18:58 jcamins        Or, GBSD: only YOU can prevent kittens dying!
18:58 jcamins        Or, GBSD: like a big blue screen, only good.
18:58 cait           7135 could be fun - it's only for testing now
18:58 wizzyrea       hmm
18:58 cait           but I guess you will like it
18:58 wizzyrea       bug 7135
18:58 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7135 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , save button options
18:58 wizzyrea       ohh
18:59 cait           some bug candy for liz...
18:59 cait           hm hehe
19:00 cait           oleonard++ for more acq work
19:01 oleonard       cait: I thought I would test Bug 6115, then I saw "supplier," then I had to chase down that bug!
19:01 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6115 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , Acquisition reports : date filter & sorting don't work
19:02 cait           oleonard: I know how that works... it's like you sqash one and 5 more creep out somewhere
19:02 cait           i am working in acq for 2 weeks now... and still I don't have the bug number going down
19:04 huginn         New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 3958] Standardize vendor/supplier/bookseller terminology <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3958>
19:04 cait           oh no, bug number shot up to 90 again
19:04 cait           we need help here!
19:05 cait           http://bugs.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/bug_status.pl
19:11 rangi          c'mon bus
19:11 cait           morning rangi
19:11 cait           where are you going on a saturday morning?
19:11 oleonard       rangi, you off to another convention?
19:11 rangi          kiwicon.org
19:12 cait           :)
19:13 rangi          its for 2 days but Im just going for today
19:13 rangi          lots of good talks today, and need to spend time with the boys tomorrow
19:14 rangi          ibeardslee can take notes on sunday for me :)
19:17 rhcl_lunchee   the stenography talk might be interesting.
19:18 oleonard       rhcl_lunchee: Like, court-reporting?
19:18 rangi          they will all be, some seriously smart ppl at kiwicon every year
19:21 oleonard       89!
19:22 cait           yay :)
19:22 cait           now... sitll some time to get a 7 show up? 79 perhaps? :)
19:36 cait           oh wizzyrea - I said sign-off - not creating new bugs and patches! :P
19:36 wizzyrea       sorry!
19:36 wizzyrea       I had a request for that and it was easy
19:36 cait           that's what they always say...
19:37 huginn         New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7159] Add branchcode to circulation.pl search <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7159>
19:37 cait           ;)
19:37 wizzyrea       >.<
19:39 oleonard       wizzyrea: Can I make a nit-picky suggestion on that?
19:39 wizzyrea       of course
19:40 wizzyrea       name instead of code?
19:40 wizzyrea       :P
19:40 oleonard       What about grouping the branch code with barcode and category: Surname, Firstname ... (012345 - A - APL) ... 123 Main Street
19:40 wizzyrea       oo, that's even better
19:40 wizzyrea       yea, I can do that
19:41 wizzyrea       ez enuf
19:41 oleonard       Cool, I think that's a little more logically consistent
19:41 rhcl_lunchee   "Edwin Hermann: A Picture is Worth a Thousand Bytes: Statistically innocent LSB steganography"  - you know, I had that spelt correctly, but I let my spell checker correct it
19:45 wizzyrea       k patch inc
19:47 wizzyrea       done and done.
19:47 oleonard       Hm, jwagner left without signing off on any patches...
19:48 cait           hey rhcl_lunchee could sign off on something... :)
20:01 oleonard       There are so many bugs that I don't feel qualified to test...
20:03 jcamins        Bug 6496?
20:03 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6496 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, ASSIGNED , authors appearing incorrectly in OPAC and Staff Client
20:03 * jcamins      doesn't know exactly what that does, but it looks like something you could test.
20:04 jcamins        oleonard: test bug 5668?
20:04 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5668 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, mtj, ASSIGNED , Star ratings in the opac
20:05 wizzyrea       i have some time for that one
20:05 jcamins        oleonard: sorry, I tried.
20:06 * oleonard     wishes someone would have attached a multiple-authored marc record to Bug 6496
20:06 wizzyrea       *nod* me too
20:08 oleonard       Ugh, now I gotta go and turn off authority control on stuff?
20:08 * oleonard     gives up and flops on the floor in a heap
20:08 jcamins        Turning off authority control is easy. :P
20:09 jcamins        At least if you mean authority control for tracings.
20:09 jcamins        bug 6496
20:09 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6496 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, ASSIGNED , authors appearing incorrectly in OPAC and Staff Client
20:09 jcamins        Ah, right, the one I suggested.
20:13 * oleonard     clones a framework and nukes authtypecode from marc_subfields_structure
20:14 wizzyrea       meh and star ratings cause my test system to die
20:14 wizzyrea       i'm sure they're lovely
20:14 * wizzyrea     flops on the floor in a heap
20:15 jcamins        wizzyrea: I think you can probably report that the star ratings don't work.
20:15 wizzyrea       naw, i'm pretty sure it's my system.
20:17 wizzyrea       this wasn't broken until this patch http://screencast.com/t/7uuIIXKckMB
20:17 wizzyrea       does anyone else see the same thing?
20:17 wizzyrea       of course, it didn't trigger an update database...
20:18 oleonard       Did star ratings introduce a new dependency?
20:18 wizzyrea       idk
20:19 wizzyrea       i odn't even see "smart/comments in C4
20:19 wizzyrea       should it be there?
20:19 wizzyrea       sorry, my brain is tired
20:19 wizzyrea       it no work so gud.
20:21 oleonard       wizzyrea: You got the patch for 5668 to apply?
20:21 wizzyrea       with a git am -3 I did
20:24 wizzyrea       well there *is* a package for Smart::Comments
20:24 wizzyrea       and I in fact did not have it
20:24 wizzyrea       and now it's all better
20:26 oleonard       Do we have a procedure for adding new dependencies? Can you trigger something on update that prompts you for it?
20:26 cait           hm not sue
20:26 cait           I think we put it in the release notes
20:26 cait           and will be automatic for the packages?
20:27 jcamins        oleonard: usually the updatedatabase should tell you that you need to install the new module.
20:27 jcamins        I think, anyway.
20:27 gmcharlt       that's been handled manually, I believe
20:28 gmcharlt       but it would be easy enough to have it make the appropriate calls to C4::Installer::PerlDependencies
20:29 * oleonard     notes the way revision 3.01.00.119 was handled
20:29 cait           hm
20:30 cait           I am testing bug 6504
20:30 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6504 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, srdjan, ASSIGNED , no way to enter shipping price in acq
20:30 cait           wondeirng about the term 'shipping'
20:30 cait           what do you call that?
20:30 cait           shipping price? freight cost?
20:31 * oleonard     dashes
20:32 jcamins        Shipping price? That's what I'd call it.
20:35 wizzyrea       http://screencast.com/t/tt56vcqqQT38 :(
20:36 cait           ok :)
20:37 wizzyrea       someone please tell me that's my data and not something wrong with the patch
20:38 cait           um
20:38 cait           sorry, still on the shipping cost... perhaps tomorrow?
20:38 wizzyrea       sure :)
20:40 cait           hm
20:40 cait           question about shipping cost
20:41 cait           I have 2 orders, one for 2 and for 1 items
20:41 cait           3 items totl
20:41 cait           and a shipping cost of 10
20:41 cait           and it did do 5.00 for each record, while I expected it would be divided up equally for the items
20:41 cait           what do you think?
20:42 cait           should it divide up the shipping cost by order line or by items?
20:46 wizzyrea       oh man I really have no idea
21:00 cait           that's ok
21:00 cait           wrote a long comment
21:00 cait           probably not making much sense.. but I hope someone will read it :)
21:02 cait           86
21:03 jcamins        Is this an association game?
21:03 cait           hehe
21:03 cait           no the bug count
21:03 cait           I so wish bugzilla had an option to edit comments
21:03 cait           at least for a short time after I hit the button
21:03 cait           http://bugs.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/bug_status.pl
21:58 jcamins        Good night, #koha
21:58 * wizzyrea     is out too
21:58 wizzyrea       happy weekend peeples
22:10 cait           bye all