Time  Nick         Message
00:41 rangi        back in the office
02:15 huginn       New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7139] Log circulation messags <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7139>
03:25 Amit_Gupta   heya chris
03:36 druthb       o/
03:48 Amit_Gupta   heya druthb
03:52 bg           hi Amit_Gupta
03:52 Amit_Gupta   heya bg
03:57 druthb       Hi, Amit_Gupta :)
04:25 sekjal       greetings from Mumbai (for all of you not already here)!
04:33 Amit_Gupta   heya sekjal
04:33 sekjal       hey, Amit_Gupta
04:33 wahanui      it has been said that Amit_Gupta is druthb1
04:34 eythian      Hi
04:35 eythian      @later tell cait  thanks :-)
04:35 huginn       eythian: The operation succeeded.
04:38 eythian      http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/kohacon11/
04:38 Amit_Gupta   heya wahanui
04:53 druthb       wahanui: forget Amit_Gupta
04:53 wahanui      druthb: I forgot amit_gupta
04:53 druthb       he's not me!  :)
04:53 druthb       druthb?
04:53 wahanui      you are rocking the sari.
04:54 druthb       lol
04:55 bg           mtj?
04:55 wahanui      DeM KraZy NutZ!!
04:55 bg           YAY
05:28 Amit_Gupta   heya mtj_mumbai
05:29 mtj_mumbai   yo Amit
05:54 Amit_Gupta   heya julian_m
05:55 julian_m     heya Amit_Gupta
06:14 druthb       Hi, Oak!
06:29 Amit_Gupta   heya druthb
06:30 Oak          oh hello druthb :)
06:30 Oak          how is it going there? all well i hope.
06:31 eythian      This is a talk for magnuse_away
06:31 eythian      About how AARC2 sucks.
06:31 Oak          oh joy
06:31 Oak          where is it?
06:32 eythian      Kohacon
06:32 Oak          right
06:32 druthb       going well, Oak..  :)
06:32 Oak          druthb, goo to hear that :)
06:32 Oak          good*
06:32 druthb       :)
06:45 eythian      Now it's about how MARC sucks. A cause I can get behind also.
06:45 eythian      wahanui: Marc
06:45 wahanui      http://marc-must-die.info
06:53 cait         hello #koha
06:58 druthb       hi, cait.  :)
06:58 cait         hi :)
07:00 Oak          hello ms. cait :)
07:00 cait         hi Oak :)
07:01 eythian      Hi cait
07:01 cait         hey eythian :)
07:01 cait         how did your presentation go?
07:01 eythian      Well I think.
07:01 cait         :)
07:02 Oak          can we see pictures? of the audience, i mean...
07:03 huginn       New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7140] Add item type description on the catalogue search and detail screens <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7140>
07:03 Oak          that was me trying to be funny. did not work.
07:03 eythian      http://www.flickr.com/photos/eythian/6298263842/ <-- oak
07:04 eythian      :-)
07:06 Oak          either the guys on your left are not interested, or, you merged two pictures to get the wide view :)
07:07 Oak          again, me trying to be funny
07:07 eythian      Heh. Don't quit your day job ;-)
07:07 Oak          huh? :)
07:08 eythian      Comedy may not be a viable career path for some...:-)
07:09 Oak          aww, you broke my heart
07:09 * cait       sends Oak cookies and glares at eythian
07:10 Oak          hehe
07:10 * druthb     glares at eythian, too, Just Because.    :D
07:10 cait         druthb: it's fun hehe
07:10 eythian      Hey, don't shoot the messenger!
07:11 druthb       eythian:  look over your left shoulder.
07:11 druthb       :D
07:23 druthb       off to lunch
07:24 sekjal       ditto
07:25 Oak          adios
07:26 Oak          nah, lunch is not ready
07:29 bg           Go Nigeria
07:30 Amit_Gupta   heya BG
07:33 * cait       thinks breakfast
07:34 Oak          isn't it  late for breakfast cait
07:35 cait         8:33 am?
07:35 cait         don't think so :)
07:35 Oak          oh
07:36 Oak          2 hour day light saving time... there in Germany
07:36 Oak          i thought it was 10ish
07:37 Oak          it's 12:40 pm here
07:41 Oak          Berlin, Sunday, 30 October 2011, 03:00:00 clocks were turned backward 1 hour (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/clockchange.html?n=37)
07:46 alex_a       hello
08:06 reiveune     hello
08:17 magnuse      namaskar #koha
08:25 Amit_Gupta   heya magnuse
08:26 hdl          namaskar #koha
08:27 magnuse      Oak
08:27 Oak          magnuse
08:28 eythian      Hi magnuse
08:29 eythian      You missed a talk about how MARC and AARC2 are terrible.
08:30 magnuse      oh noes!
08:31 magnuse      my reply: MARC is dead, 'cause LoC says so: http://www.loc.gov/marc/transition/news/framework-103111.html
08:31 magnuse      time to start thinking forward: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Semantic_data_RFC
08:38 druthb       o/
08:38 sekjal       o/
08:38 sekjal       s/o\//\\o/i
08:39 * druthb     blinks.
08:39 druthb       yeah, sekjal is feeling better.  He's getting sassy (and regex-ey)
08:39 * sekjal     <3's regex
08:40 magnuse      yay
08:41 druthb       hi, magnuse!
08:41 sekjal       howdy, magnuse
08:42 magnuse      namaste druthb and sekjal and everyone
08:42 sophie_m     hello
08:42 sekjal       hi, sophie_m
08:46 Oak          how was lunch
08:46 druthb       teh yum.  Very tasty, and good company.
08:47 Oak          good times :)
08:51 bg           pretty cool video of library being built
08:54 bg           git-bz?
08:54 wahanui      git-bz is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Git_bz_configuration
08:56 francharb    hello all
08:56 magnuse      bonjour francharb
08:56 francharb    god morgen (?) magnuse
08:57 francharb    ;)
09:00 magnuse      spot on, francharb ;-)
09:01 druthb       @wunder mumbai
09:01 huginn       druthb: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 35.0�C (1:40 PM IST on November 02, 2011). Conditions: Smoke. Humidity: 34%. Dew Point: 17.0�C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady).
09:01 * druthb     wrings out her dupatta.
09:03 magnuse      @wunder boo
09:03 Oak          hehe
09:03 huginn       magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 10.0�C (9:50 AM CET on November 02, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Pressure: 29.53 in 1000 hPa (Steady).
09:05 Oak          druthb, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqBeoXxtc1E
09:07 * druthb     makes a bookmark for later
09:07 Oak          :)
09:07 Oak          it's a song about dupatta
09:07 Oak          :)
09:07 druthb       :)
09:13 paul_p       @wunder mumbai
09:13 huginn       paul_p: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 34.0�C (2:10 PM IST on November 02, 2011). Conditions: Smoke. Humidity: 36%. Dew Point: 17.0�C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady).
09:14 paul_p       well, I confirm: it's hot...
09:14 bg           @wunder 93109
09:14 huginn       bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 11.2�C (2:12 AM PDT on November 02, 2011). Conditions: Fog. Humidity: 99%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 29.93 in 1013.4 hPa (Steady).
09:14 Amit_Gupta   heya bg
09:14 sekjal       @wunder 01373
09:14 huginn       sekjal: The current temperature in Hatfield, Massachusetts is -2.6�C (5:08 AM EDT on November 02, 2011). Conditions: Light Freezing Fog. Humidity: 97%. Dew Point: -3.0�C. Windchill: -3.0�C. Pressure: 30.40 in 1029.3 hPa (Rising).
09:14 bg           yo Amit_Gupta
09:14 paul_p       (and conditionned air in conference room is strong (too strong maybe, brendan&julian got a cold)
09:14 bg           heh - that hot lime sauce is keeping me warm now
09:15 Amit_Gupta   hee
09:15 Amit_Gupta   bg: your tommorrow plan
09:15 bg           I'm going to be on the tour.  we're seeing caves and some of mumbai
09:16 Amit_Gupta   ok
09:25 paul_p       sekjal, am I blind or you're not in conference room ?
09:26 paul_p       ok, i'm blind...
09:26 sekjal       :)
09:26 paul_p       (just seated 2 chairs on my left... was searching too far ;-) )
09:26 francharb    lol
09:26 bg           heh
09:26 francharb    well not that out loud
09:26 francharb    ;)
09:26 bg           :)
09:29 Amit_Gupta   :D
09:34 slef         bleah... hello #koha, what's going on?
09:34 bg           hey slef
09:36 paul_p       hi slef: what's going on= the kohacon11 ;-)
09:36 paul_p       dobrica presenting RFID & Koha
09:36 slef         paul_p: yeah, but... that's more it ;-)
09:37 slef         I've been tied up with a problem in one of our consortium co-ops, not been able to follow kohacon11. :-(
09:37 slef         ooh, what's that about? ISO-model tags?
09:37 paul_p       what do you mean by "not be able to follow" ?
09:38 slef         I mean I've not been reading any chat/reports/tweets from kohacon11 yet. :(
09:38 sekjal       dpavlin hacked and reverse-engineered his RFID tags to he could create a RFID server for circ in Koha
09:38 slef         ISO 28560-2 tags?
09:38 slef         or some vendor's tags?
09:38 sekjal       3M's tags
09:39 slef         I don't remember whether 3M's are ISO 28560-2, the earlier-but-similar Danish open model or something else :-/
09:40 sekjal       dpavlin complained about lack of documentation on the model he was using
09:40 slef         I think they might be Danish, as the 3M-compatible kit we used to use accepted Danish tags.
09:40 sekjal       so he hacked it until he figured it out (and wrote it down)
09:40 slef         Well, there was one PDF when we started, but it wasn't very useful.
09:40 slef         Hrm, sounds like something I should read.  Oh for more time! :)
09:40 paul_p       some croatia language on his slides :D
09:43 sekjal       he's even got the RFID reader working with JS, so he doesn't need any modified code, just intranetuserjs call
09:47 sekjal       ah, dpavlin has since moved to open source tags and printer, which has public documentation
09:49 magnuse      yay!
09:51 sekjal       checkout out: https://github.com/dpavlin/Biblio-RFID
09:51 sekjal       supports 3M 810, CPRM02, and librfid
09:58 JesseM       This guy is smart
10:00 sekjal       he showed us a video of a combined card printer and RFID writer... automated.  very cool Rube Goldberg kinda device
10:21 slef         sekjal: that's a new one on me. Sounds cool.
11:33 francharb    bye all
12:18 hdl          dpavlin++
12:25 oleonard     Whassup #koha?
12:28 leidenfrost  Can anyone tell me from where does opac-search.pl gets the list of books?
12:28 leidenfrost  I deleted the everything from biblioitems table and still getting books as search results
12:29 jwagner      leidenfrost, any catalog search uses the indexes -- did you rebuild indexes after you deleted from the table?  Presumably zebra indexes unless you're set to use NoZebra.
12:31 leidenfrost  jwagner: How do I rebuild the indexes?
12:33 jwagner      See http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/searching/ for a start
12:49 Danielle     \o
12:52 talljoy      o/
12:53 * Danielle   is doing a half-day of work today. :)
13:00 cait         hi all
13:06 oleonard     Hi cait
13:07 cait         hi oleonard :)
13:07 * oleonard   confirms bug 7134
13:07 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7134 major, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , patron records getting funny birthdays
13:07 cait         wonder what has changed there
13:08 oleonard     Not the database structure. dateofbirth still defaults to null
13:08 * Danielle   submits her notice!
13:12 cait         :)
13:20 leidenfrost  jwagner_away: Thank you, it worked.
13:44 wizzyrea     stupid 6253
13:51 cait         and hi again #koha
13:54 Danielle     Hi again, cait!
13:54 cait         hi Danielle :)
14:13 jcamins_away bug 6253
14:13 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6253 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, srdjan, ASSIGNED , Unified Patron Search subroutine
14:14 jcamins      Good morning, #koha.
14:20 huginn       New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7137] fixed width table where it should be variable <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7137>
14:29 cait         @wunder Konstanz
14:29 huginn       cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 11.3�C (3:24 PM CET on November 02, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: 9.0�C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1013.8 hPa (Falling).
14:29 eythian      @wunder mumbai
14:29 huginn       eythian: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 30.0�C (7:10 PM IST on November 02, 2011). Conditions: Smoke. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 21.0�C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady).
14:30 wizzyrea     oh hi eythian
14:30 eythian      hiya
14:31 cait         hi eythian
14:31 eythian      hello cait
14:36 cait         hi sekjal :)
14:37 jcamins      Hi eythian, sekjal, and cait.
14:39 cait         hi jcamins
14:39 cait         now that everyone is here... I have to change trains
14:39 cait         hmpf
14:39 cait         bye all
14:43 wizzyrea     oh that's funny, it looks like in the OPAC, the current location of an item is shown at the library it's currently at, but the URL for it is the URL for it's homebranch.
14:43 wizzyrea     http://catalog.nexpresslibrary.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=62931
14:43 wizzyrea     click ottawa
14:44 oleonard     There's a bug for that. I thought my patch for that had been approved.
14:44 wizzyrea     oo
14:44 oleonard     Bug 6600
14:44 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6600 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Library name linking wrong if current location is different
14:44 sekjal       hi cait, jcamins, everyone!
14:45 Danielle     Right, resignation submitted; two weeks today I'm off to a new job.
14:45 wizzyrea     ok yea, thanks that will be in our next update
14:46 wizzyrea     congrats Danielle :D
14:50 trea         congrats
14:51 Danielle     Thanks. I'm looking forward to it...the golden handcuffs don't chaff yet. ;)
15:03 * magnuse    waves
15:05 magnuse      namaste mtj_mumbai
15:06 magnuse      how's the chili-hunt going?
15:06 mtj_mumbai   hey magnus
15:07 mtj_mumbai   chilli hunting is on hold
15:07 magnuse      oh noes
15:07 mtj_mumbai   kmkale has a chilli experience arranged for me this week
15:08 mtj_mumbai   ... so i am keeping quiet
15:08 magnuse      hehe
15:10 mtj_mumbai   robin, me , ian and ruth are hanging out at the hotel
15:10 * magnuse    waves
15:11 magnuse      any plans for tonight?
15:11 magnuse      probably pretty late already?
15:11 mtj_mumbai   chatting and working on some koha stuff
15:11 magnuse      yay!
15:11 magnuse      working_on_koha++
15:13 mtj_mumbai   we have a very early day_trip to elephanta island
15:13 magnuse      yay!
15:13 mtj_mumbai   tomorrow,
15:13 mtj_mumbai   all the other peeps are out at dinner
15:13 magnuse      wait, the time is 8.41 pm where you are? fortyone? there's a half hour difference?!?
15:14 mtj_mumbai   but us 4, decided to stay back an have a quiet nite
15:15 magnuse      yay, sounds nice for a change...
15:17 mtj_mumbai   yeah, im keen for a little 'down time'
15:17 magnuse      will probably be a lot of "up time" tomorrow... ;-)
15:20 libsysguy    Hi everybody
15:21 libsysguy    Testing the irc from my iPad
15:21 eythian      eww ipad sellout
15:21 eythian      :)
15:22 libsysguy    It's all the university would by me to develop on :'(
15:22 magnuse      hmf
15:22 libsysguy    But yes I share your sentiments
15:22 * magnuse    wants a tablet with ubuntu on it
15:22 * eythian    <3's his transformer tablet
15:22 trea         :D
15:22 eythian      apparently you can put ubuntu on some versions, though not mine
15:23 libsysguy    The are working on that though
15:23 libsysguy    At least that is what I have read
15:23 eythian      yeah
15:23 magnuse      yay
15:23 libsysguy    Probably on reddit lol
15:23 magnuse      gotta have perl, mysql and apache so you can run koha...
15:24 magnuse      s/you /i/
15:24 libsysguy    Oh oh...do I have a rando question....for my senior project I get to recruit 2 classmates and work on koha..Any project ideas
15:24 huginn       New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7141] The biblio details page in the intranet doesn't work if XSLT is activated and the xsl file contains " " <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7141>
15:25 libsysguy    Man. I've gotta work on this keyboard
15:25 magnuse      ubuntu are saying they will be on tablets - by 2014?
15:25 oleonard     Why did I just get a bounce message from patches-bounces@lists.kohaaloha.com?
15:26 magnuse      libsysguy: what's the "frame" for the project?
15:27 libsysguy    It's kind of free reign...typically employers come in with project ideas and the professor divides them up to the class and you work on then all semester
15:27 magnuse      cool - so 3 people for 1 semester?
15:28 libsysguy    Yes
15:28 libsysguy    Including yours truly
15:28 magnuse      if i were you i'd send an email to the devel list, asking for tips
15:28 magnuse      yay ;-)
15:29 libsysguy    Haha yeah thats a good idea...my boss will have to be the one to submit the project so ultimately the decision is up to her
15:29 libsysguy    But I'm sure she's open to suggestions
15:29 sekjal       libsysguy:  I can round up ideas for you by next Monday
15:29 libsysguy    Haha wow you need all the way to Monday lol
15:29 sekjal       at the KohaCon hackfest, we're going to have a brainstorming session
15:29 wizzyrea     libsysguy: get on the gaming one
15:29 wizzyrea     gamify koha
15:29 wizzyrea     do something fun
15:30 wizzyrea     you want to
15:30 wizzyrea     you know you do
15:30 libsysguy    Oh wait you aren't near the board sekjal
15:30 * wizzyrea   uses the jedi mind trick on libsysguy
15:30 libsysguy    Haha make research a game
15:30 wizzyrea     http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=koha%20gamify&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CDIQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwiki.koha-community.org%2Fwiki%2FGamifying_the_ILS&ei=uGGxTuyvFsaW2QWh_PWcAw&usg=AFQjCNHg6M2xOCpxksuqQBEWTG119bEH_w
15:30 wizzyrea     yujes
15:30 wizzyrea     yikes
15:30 libsysguy    You found the book you were looking for in less that 6 searches
15:30 libsysguy    You win
15:30 wizzyrea     hehe
15:31 libsysguy    Haha ugh I can't click that on ye old iPad
15:31 wizzyrea     lulz
15:31 wizzyrea     ok
15:31 wizzyrea     sec
15:31 wizzyrea     http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Gamifying_the_ILS
15:31 libsysguy    Oh ok I see it now
15:31 libsysguy    Hmm lol
15:32 wizzyrea     and
15:32 sekjal       libsysguy:  generalize borrower messaging preferences to ALL kinds of borrower preferences
15:32 wizzyrea     there *might* be money to do that
15:32 libsysguy    Uuu
15:32 wizzyrea     http://willyou.typewith.me/p/dmlcomp (is still rough, but we are submitting this for a grant)
15:32 libsysguy    I know what Margo wants to do
15:32 libsysguy    She wants us to rewrite notices
15:33 wizzyrea     but that's not fun. :P
15:33 libsysguy    Yeah but every time she has to deal with my script she almost screams :-p
15:33 wizzyrea     *almost*
15:33 sekjal       wizzyrea: I'm all for fun, but if this is an educational endeavor, just as much could be learned working on plumbing
15:33 libsysguy    If it wasn
15:33 libsysguy    Oops
15:33 sekjal       stuff there WON'T be money for
15:34 wizzyrea     sigh fine.
15:34 libsysguy    Haha sekjal makes all the money anyway
15:35 libsysguy    Aww is can't do irc actions on here....boo
15:36 eythian      irc actions are independent of the client
15:36 libsysguy    I just got an unknown command error from the server who's tried / me
15:37 libsysguy    Maybe it's th other \
15:37 libsysguy    \ me is trying
15:37 libsysguy    \me tries again
15:37 sekjal       libsysguy: just trying to get the most good stuff into Koha as possible for 3.8
15:37 sekjal       if you find a fun project, do it
15:37 sekjal       libraries need features
15:38 libsysguy    Yeah and so do I
15:38 sekjal       developers are the ones primarily interested in plumbing
15:38 libsysguy    Speaking of...how are some of my projects looking for master?
15:38 sekjal       hourly loans and locations in search results?
15:38 libsysguy    I use the terms loosely
15:38 libsysguy    Yeah
15:38 libsysguy    Know locations is probably held up
15:38 libsysguy    But hourly should be good
15:39 sekjal       unfortunately, the same as they were before I left for Mumbai
15:39 wizzyrea     it's a point of contention whether or not libraries need features :P at some point the plumbing becomes the feature.
15:39 wizzyrea     and sometimes the features aren't for the libraries
15:39 wizzyrea     sometimes the features are for the people.
15:39 sekjal       libsysguy: hourly needs another testing after your latest patching
15:39 wizzyrea     (because koha is for the users, right?)
15:39 wizzyrea     (and users = both libraries and your average library user)
15:39 sekjal       wizzyrea: sigh fine :)
15:40 wizzyrea     hehe
15:40 libsysguy    Psh whatever wizzy it's for the devels
15:40 * wizzyrea   gives libsysguy the mom eye. You know the one.
15:40 libsysguy    Ok so I just have to let you blitz it again sekjal
15:40 oleonard     Just as long as sekjal gets to put something in a matrix he'll be happy
15:40 libsysguy    \me runs and hides
15:40 * wizzyrea   laughs
15:41 wizzyrea     I think you people are among the best on the planet, I hope you all know that.
15:41 libsysguy    Does he row reduce and find the eigen values too?
15:42 libsysguy    Aww wizzy...
15:42 jcamins      libsysguy: you're using backslashes. You should use forward slashes.
15:42 libsysguy    Grr
15:42 libsysguy    Yeah that gets blocked by my client
15:43 libsysguy    Odd..
15:44 libsysguy    But thanks jcamins for preventing me from looking retarded :-p
15:46 sekjal       libsysguy:  no eigen values since my math student days
15:47 libsysguy    That is sad sekjal
15:55 sekjal       libsysguy must have this hotel's same ISP
15:58 wizzyrea     i bet he's app switching on his ipad
15:59 magnuse      wizzyrea: http://willyou.typewith.me/p/dmlcomp gives me 504 Gateway Time-out...
15:59 wizzyrea     I think typewithme is having troubles today
15:59 wizzyrea     it had been working
15:59 magnuse      looks like it..
16:00 * wizzyrea   facepalms "Nuts!"
16:00 magnuse      hey, i'm facepalming peanuts as we speak!
16:01 wizzyrea     is that like crushing beercans?
16:01 oleonard     select count(biblionumber) from biblio where title is null; Result: 619
16:01 wizzyrea     arg
16:01 wizzyrea     lol
16:02 magnuse      ouch?
16:06 jcamins      oleonard: I hope that's not on your production server?
16:06 oleonard     :(
16:06 reiveune     bye
16:06 wizzyrea     nexpress has 13 >.>
16:08 magnuse      that could be a canned report somewhere, for checking the sanity of your catalogue...
16:25 magnuse      guten abend cait
16:31 magnuse      hm, are 999 c and d equally good sources of biblionumbers, or is one of them more reliable than the other?
16:31 jcamins      magnuse: 999c.
16:31 magnuse      ok, thanks
16:32 magnuse      what's the difference between them?
16:32 jcamins      magnuse: in principle, 999d should work just as well, but in practice, the biblionumber is more constant than the biblioitemnumber.
16:32 cait         hi all :)
16:32 magnuse      ah, so c = biblionumber and d = biblioitemnumber?
16:32 * magnuse    didn't know that
16:33 jcamins      Right.
16:33 magnuse      thanks!
16:33 magnuse      hiya cait
16:37 oleonard     Ever make your own cheese jcamins?
16:38 jcamins      oleonard: just fresh cheese. Like ricotta and panir.
16:39 * oleonard   had a home cheesemaking book cross his desk just now
16:40 jcamins      Mmm.
16:41 * magnuse    has made paneer a couple times too, but is above average interested in cheesemaking ;-)
16:41 oleonard     But who am I kidding, I don't even have time to make a proper dinner most days
16:41 * oleonard   shouldn't embark on any project that might take up to 6 months to complete
16:42 jcamins      Wow. This puppet show has been playing for 85 years.
16:42 oleonard     Hello, robotic trea
16:42 jcamins      More-or-less continuously.
16:42 treadroid    hi there
16:43 * jcamins    has a book in Georgian to catalog.
16:43 jcamins      This is going to be a challenge.
17:00 Oak          \o
17:01 cait         hi Oak :)
17:01 Oak          hello miss cait :)
17:30 magnuse      jcamins: maybe you could have a chat with these guys: http://opac.kohamarc.sciencelib.ge/ ;-)
17:33 jcamins      magnuse: nifty!
17:35 * jcamins    may or may not have transcribed the title and author(s).
17:35 * jcamins    moves back to Russian books.
17:35 magnuse      hehe
17:36 magnuse      anyone know how to view this? http://internetarchive.github.com/kohacon2011-presentation/#slide1 i get the first slide, then a little bit of the second one on the right, but no way to scroll or see the rest...
17:37 jcamins      In Chrome it just scrolls.
17:37 jcamins      Use the arrow keys.
17:38 magnuse      ah, thanks - too obvious...
17:44 pastebot     "magnuse" at 84.202.196.154 pasted "transforming oai records" (37 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/99
17:44 magnuse      any xslt gurus around?
17:44 magnuse      i'm trying to copy 999c to 001, and not quite getting there...
17:45 jwagner      magnuse, what are you trying to do?  Display the 999c instead of the 001?
17:46 magnuse      jwagner: in records returned by oai, the contents of 001 should be what is in 999c
17:46 magnuse      did that make sense?
17:47 jcamins      magnuse: Is that the entire spreadsheet?
17:47 jcamins      s/spreadsheet/stylesheet/
17:47 jwagner      What's the test criteria for records returned by OAI?
17:47 magnuse      jcamins: yup
17:47 magnuse      jwagner: test criteria?
17:47 jwagner      So anything using this stylesheet should display the 999c?
17:48 magnuse      jwagner: yeah, 001 should have the same value as 999c
17:48 jwagner      Then I'd just remove the 001 field entry and tell it to display 999c rather than trying to change the value
17:48 jwagner      Can you do that?
17:49 jcamins      magnuse: what happens if you remove the /text() from the match?
17:50 pastebot     "magnuse" at 84.202.196.154 pasted "i have this and want this" (59 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/100
17:50 magnuse      jcamins: then 001 disappears completely
17:51 jcamins      magnuse: good. That's what was supposed to happen.
17:51 magnuse      jwagner: i need the 001 to be there, with the same value as 999c...
17:51 magnuse      jcamins: yay! ;-)
17:52 pastebot     "jcamins" at 66.108.64.198 pasted "magnuse: try this" (19 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/101
17:54 magnuse      jcamins: that gave me   <controlfield xmlns="" xmlns:marc="http://www.loc.gov/MARC21/slim" xmlns:items="http://www.koha-community.org/items" xmlns:package="info:srw/extension/13/package-v1.0" tag="001"/>
17:54 jcamins      Hm. That's not what I anticipated.
17:54 jcamins      marc:controlfield instead of controlfield?
17:55 magnuse      hmf, same result
17:57 jcamins      Try what you had originally, but put a slash at the beginning of the select?
18:00 magnuse      jcamins: hm, one slash didn't change anything, but two gives me the value from the first 999c...
18:01 jwagner      The "first" 999c?  You shouldn't have more than one in a record....
18:01 jcamins      magnuse: oh, there are multiple records here?
18:01 jcamins      Hmm.
18:01 jcamins      parent()/
18:02 magnuse      yup - sory for not pointing that out - the // works for one record...
18:03 magnuse      this <xsl:value-of select="parent()/marc:datafield[@tag=999]/marc:subfield[@code='c']/text()"/>
18:03 magnuse      gives me xmlXPathCompOpEval: function parent not found
18:03 jwagner      Bug 6657 for one situation where multiple 999c causes problems
18:03 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6657 major, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Making 999 visible in framework duplicates 999 entry and affects index
18:03 * magnuse    sucks at xslt
18:05 jcamins      jwagner: that's one 999c per record.
18:05 jcamins      jwagner: the situation that magnuse is dealing with, I mean.
18:05 jcamins      magnuse: hm. I guess I was wrong about parent() being a selector.
18:05 * jwagner    exhales
18:05 jwagner      You mean multiple records, each with a single 999c
18:06 jcamins      Right.
18:06 jcamins      magnuse: replace parent() with .. (two dots)
18:06 magnuse      hey, i think   <xsl:value-of select="../../marc:datafield[@tag=999]/marc:subfield[@code='c']/text()"/> did the trick!
18:07 magnuse      yup, it's consistent for all the records
18:07 magnuse      woohoo!
18:07 jcamins      ../..? Oh, I forgot you were selecting text()
18:07 jcamins      Yeah, makes sense.
18:08 magnuse      jcamins++
18:08 magnuse      jwagner++
18:09 jwagner      Good, but jcamins deserves the karma -- I got lost about the second step there....
18:09 magnuse      hehe, you get it anyway ;-)
18:10 jcamins      magnuse: what is it you're doing, btw?
18:10 magnuse      jcamins: it's for the national library of norway - they are harvesting records for a national, federated search, and demand to have the bibliotenumber in 001...
18:11 magnuse      not sure why they couldn't just do the transformation themselves...
18:11 magnuse      prototype: http://www.nb.no/bibsok/start.jsf
18:12 magnuse      they need to work on de-duping... http://www.nb.no/bibsok/search.jsf?query=jo+nesb%C3%B8
18:20 slef         mmmm fun
18:20 slef         no-one transforms like koha developers can!
18:22 Oak          me go now.
18:22 Oak          good night
18:46 * magnuse    is off to turn left over pork ribs into something yummy
18:47 magnuse      thanks #koha-folks, for being the bestest!
18:48 cait         aaw
18:48 cait         :)
18:50 lavamind     hello
18:51 lavamind     quick question : do rebuild_zebra have any logic to prevent multiple instances ? I'd like to do a full rebuild, but I dont want */5 cron to interfere.
18:59 wizzyrea     I don't think that it does, it's best to stop the cronjob.
18:59 wizzyrea     at least, afaik
18:59 wizzyrea     can I ask a favor, click this: http://www.atchisonlibrary.org/ is it fast or slow?
19:00 oleonard     Fast for me
19:00 wizzyrea     or somewhere inbetween
19:00 * wizzyrea   does a happy dance
19:00 wizzyrea     ty :)
19:01 jcamins      lavamind: no, you'll end up with your system deadlocked if you're trying to rebuild on a busy server.
19:01 jcamins      lavamind: better to disable the rebuild_zebra.
19:03 cait         hm
19:04 cait         took a moment but then was fast
19:18 lavamind     jcamins: ok, thanks.
19:19 rangi        lavamind: eythian and I are working on adding locking, should be in the next few weeks but for now, yeah comment out the cron job
19:30 wizzyrea     mornin rangi
19:31 rangi        sup wizzyrea
19:31 trea         morning
19:32 rangi        hey trea
19:35 lavamind     rangi: does this make sense to you : http://pastebin.com/MujdS0ZF
19:35 lavamind     normal rebuild during the day, full rebuild at night ?
19:36 rangi        i dont do the full rebuild
19:36 rangi        but it shouldnt hurt if you want to :)
19:46 lavamind     okay, I'll monitor the situation then, instead
20:25 huginn       New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7095] Merge Marker Test Issues Unclear Failure Messages <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7095>
20:37 huginn       New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6968] Show items expired before today in check expiration of serials page <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6968> / [Bug 5549] Hourly Loans <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5549> / [Bug 5668] Star ratings in the opac <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5668>
22:01 libsysguy    seen cait
22:01 wahanui      cait was last seen on #koha 2 hours, 57 minutes and 53 seconds ago, saying: took a moment but then was fast [Wed Nov  2 19:02:29 2011]
22:02 * cait       giggles
22:02 libsysguy    hehe hi cait
22:02 cait         hi libsysguy :)
22:02 libsysguy    so I have a question about your hourly comment?
22:03 libsysguy    can I still sign off after I test because I still have it in production
22:03 libsysguy    I just don't want to break a rule
22:03 libsysguy    …I know how hard it would be to test that one
22:03 jcamins_away Bad libsysguy! No rule breaking!
22:04 wizzyrea     pf
22:04 cait         libsysguy: I am not totally sure - qa should decide
22:04 wizzyrea     ok later
22:04 cait         but technically
22:04 libsysguy    haha im all about breaking the rules
22:04 cait         as you have done the follow ups
22:04 cait         you can't sign-off on them
22:04 cait         but qa could say it's ok
22:04 libsysguy    that is what I thought
22:04 cait         I was only tidying up the new 'no status' list
22:04 ebegin       ls
22:05 cait         :)
22:05 libsysguy    I just don't know who else could test :-/
22:05 cait         best is you ask sekjal
22:05 ebegin       oups.. wrong window... (ls)
22:05 cait         pushed to qa seemed wrong to me, as this should be used for brnaches on koha's git repo I think
22:05 jcamins_away [off] I just signed a contract to buy an apartment... don't listen to anything I say right now, I'm in too much shock to make sense.
22:05 libsysguy    yeah he said he was going to run it though QA when he got back from India
22:06 libsysguy    jcamins_away: http://xkcd.com/616/
22:06 libsysguy    also I think you should be banned from using away :p
22:07 jcamins_away libsysguy: yeah, I know, I posted that on all my social media profiles when I realized I started the process.
22:07 libsysguy    haha it is one of my favorite comics