Time Nick Message 22:31 jcamins cait: yeah, probably. 22:28 cait jcamins: sandwiches? 22:24 rhcl chili 22:24 * jcamins thinks he knows what rhcl will be having for dinner. :) 22:23 rhcl coleslaw 22:23 rhcl potato salad, baked beans 22:23 jcamins I've mostly stopped eating red meat, actually, so probably not hamburger. 22:23 rhcl onion 22:23 rhcl pickles 22:23 rhcl ketchup and mustard 22:22 rhcl hamburgers 22:21 jcamins I don't think so. 22:21 jcamins Hmm. 22:21 cait gnocchi? 22:21 cait hmmmm 22:09 jcamins What should I have for dinner? 22:09 * jcamins waves, too. 22:08 * cait waves 22:03 phlunk3 thanks rangi btw :) 21:55 rangi the apache config 21:40 phlunk3 hi guys, when I make a new installation of koha I know it sets a couple of url's for you to use, one for the backend and one for the opac, can someone tell me where these are listed? just trying to help someone with a fresh install over the phone. 19:48 wizzyrea lol I just spent 10 minutes finding batteries for my wireless mouse 19:43 talljoy wizzyrea++ your library system rocks. 19:40 talljoy i need me that drill bit. 19:32 wizzyrea ty, I don't think there are too many rough edges on it. I'm not utterly happy with the home page but... will figure something out 19:32 oleonard Congratulations wizzyrea 19:30 wizzyrea well I made it live: http://catalog.nexpresslibrary.org 19:29 * chris_n looks around for his bag of square pegs ;-) 19:29 wizzyrea chris_n: that is wow... 19:28 wizzyrea gl :) 19:28 rangi ok people all arriving, bbl 19:28 * wizzyrea bites 19:27 chris_n drilling a square hole: http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=4Y77MGlb0eo&vq=small#t=11 19:27 * chris_n has seen it all now 19:27 wizzyrea hm 19:26 oleonard That scheme was supposed to be a lot more flexible with regard to the opac main page than it has turned out to be. 19:25 wizzyrea ah I think that's what I'm coming up against possibly 19:25 oleonard But there are lots of places in the templates where <div class="yui-g"></div> is used as a generic container without a <div class="yui-u"> inside 19:24 oleonard When you have <div class="yui-g"> it means that <div class="yui-u first"></div> and <div class="yui-u"></div> will form 50%/50% columns 19:24 wizzyrea when logged out 19:24 wizzyrea Ah, to accommodate the login screen 19:23 oleonard When you have <div class="yui-ge"> it means that <div class="yui-u first"></div> and <div class="yui-u"></div> will form 75%/25% columns 19:22 wizzyrea that needs signoff 19:22 wizzyrea actually ignore that 19:22 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7128] logged in and logged out states of opac-main.tt are hard to style <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7128> 19:21 wizzyrea it has to do with being logged in or out 19:21 wizzyrea I can't figure out what the deal is with the yui-g and yui-ge on opac-main 19:21 talljoy in fact today, i had to break out a sweater 19:21 talljoy jcamins. i'm *always* cold. 19:21 oleonard Oh, go ahead. 19:20 wizzyrea what... where'd he go? 19:19 * oleonard holds perfectly still 19:19 wizzyrea an* opac 19:19 jcamins_away talljoy: 24 degrees Celcius is cold for you?!? 19:19 wizzyrea I have a opac styling conundrum 19:19 wizzyrea ? 19:19 wizzyrea oleonard, about 19:19 wizzyrea gnite magnuse 19:19 talljoy gnight! 19:18 * magnuse wishes #koha a good night! 19:18 rangi that too 19:13 ibeardslee that and a late night? 19:13 rangi im talked out 19:13 * rangi is glad today is the last day on the stand 19:12 rangi heh 19:06 talljoy all i have left is the height. 19:06 talljoy it's been bred out of my genetics. ha! 19:05 magnuse or maybe that's exactly why? ;-) 19:02 talljoy it will get chilly, but mostly warm. Ironic since I'm roughly 1/2 Swedish. :-/ 19:01 oleonard ...usually. 19:01 oleonard I guess you're in the right place talljoy 18:53 talljoy i like it hot. real hot. desert hot. 18:52 talljoy to me it is. brrr. 18:47 magnuse 24.4 is merely warmish? 18:39 talljoy pretty day today. sunny, warmish. one of the few good things in Texas 18:39 huginn talljoy: The current temperature in APRSWXNET Benbrook TX US, Fort Worth, Texas is 24.4�C (1:13 PM CDT on November 01, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 36%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1017.8 hPa. 18:39 talljoy @wunder 76109 18:38 talljoy brrrr. winter-- 18:34 jcamins_away libsysguy: OpacMaintenance = yes? 18:26 magnuse not bad at all for november 18:26 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo Vi, Norway is 11.0�C (7:00 PM CET on November 01, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 29.52 in 1000 hPa (Falling). 18:25 magnuse @wunder boo 18:25 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 16.0�C (7:00 AM NZDT on November 02, 2011). Conditions: Rain Showers. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 29.39 in 995 hPa (Steady). 18:25 rangi @wunder wellington nz 18:25 libsysguy wait...it finally came though 18:24 magnuse g'day rangi 18:24 wizzyrea mornin 18:24 rangi morning 18:24 libsysguy i turned on incrementals...apparently somebody has been busy...now zebra is doing its thing 18:23 libsysguy anybody know how to throw up the maintenance page from the db...my system is crawling and i can't run a query to see 18:23 wizzyrea oak++ 18:23 magnuse Oak did 18:23 wizzyrea oh yay and someone signed off on that one ^.^ thanks :) 18:22 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7122 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, NEW , Adding divs to opac-messaging.tt to aid OPAC css styling 18:22 magnuse (not signing off from irc but on bug 7122, of course) 18:22 magnuse Oak++ for signing off! 18:21 Oak good night magnuse, good night teacher! :) 18:21 magnuse g'night Oak 18:21 cait good night Oak :) 18:21 Oak good night. 18:20 Oak me go now. to sleep. 18:17 Oak :) 18:17 cait hehe 18:16 * jcamins sallies forth into the world to pick up his new eyeglasses. 18:16 Oak by* 18:16 Oak cait, i was remembering this bye the way: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0124298/quotes?qt0413309 18:16 jcamins Wait, no... 18:16 * jcamins sallies forth into the world, righting all wrong... 18:12 Oak okay good to hear :) 18:12 Oak not funny 18:12 Oak never mind 18:12 Oak and lucy? 18:12 cait sushi was yummy 18:12 cait hi Oak :) 18:12 Oak how was sushi? 18:12 Oak cait! 18:11 jcamins Heh. 18:08 oleonard Not only do you exist, but you are quite complex. 18:04 * jcamins guesses he's still connected, since wahanui heard his existential query. 18:03 wahanui i heard jcamins was supposed to be an outstanding cook. or well-traveled and brilliant. or trying to think of a solution, but short of a set of three sysprefs (ShelfBrowserUsesLocation, ShelfBrowserUsesCcode, and ShelfBrowserUsesHomeBranch), I don't really have any ideas. or awesome fixing broken email notifications or the wizard that forges queries in the deep fires of zebra 18:03 jcamins wahanui: jcamins? 17:17 cait oleonard: my family is the same ) 17:02 oleonard I try to talk lots about Koha but my kids just tune me out. 16:50 cait hehe thx 16:50 jcamins cait++ # lots of talking about Koha 16:48 cait and they asked a few questions :) 16:48 cait It was ok I think :) 16:48 cait oh 16:48 * wizzyrea also wants to know 16:48 jcamins Hi cait! How did your talk go? 16:47 wizzyrea trea is the master of esoteric youtube finds 16:45 trea hi cait! 16:45 cait hi oleonard and trea 16:43 trea speaking of gregory hines http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCzV3erpow4 16:37 oleonard Hi cait 16:36 cait hi #koha 16:28 jcamins I wrote a paper in which I claimed that (and several other similar things), and one of my classmates thought it was all true! 16:27 oleonard No made-up enough! 16:27 jcamins Like when I won the Gregory Hines medal for tap dancing? 16:26 oleonard "Invented the Snuggie®" 16:26 oleonard Be sure to throw in some wildly made-up stuff. 16:25 * jcamins is still here, but working on a brief autobiographical statement for a lecture invitation. 16:24 * oleonard must have missed the part when everyone went off to lunch together 16:23 oleonard Must be an old bug. I rolled git back a long way looking for a time when it worked. 16:22 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7126 major, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , Transfer does not prompt with hold information 16:22 oleonard Bug 7126 15:57 * jcamins will try to remember what. 15:56 jcamins There was something else I was going to suggest you make with him. 15:56 jcamins Pretty nifty. 15:55 jcamins Yeah, context would be good. 15:55 wizzyrea that's what nexpress will look like soon 15:55 wizzyrea oh sorry, context for the screengrab 15:55 jcamins :) 15:55 wizzyrea his job was to roll them and dip them in sugar 15:55 wizzyrea he helped me make gingersnaps a few days ago 15:54 wizzyrea :D 15:54 jcamins wizzyrea: truly an inspired idea, and you could probably get a little one involved in the wrapping. 15:54 wizzyrea oh my 15:54 jcamins wizzyrea: I made individually wrapped fudge the other day. 15:54 wizzyrea http://screencast.com/t/2WuKisOZ 15:50 wizzyrea yea, that's what losgatos is using 15:50 * jcamins is no expert, though. 15:50 magnuse but then again, it's not a "like" 15:50 jcamins magnuse: yeah, I'm pretty sure that one's okay. 15:49 magnuse the link described here should be pretty safe, i hope: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/OPACMySummaryHTML 15:49 magnuse the los gatos one has an iframe with a lot of stuff going on... 15:49 jcamins http://everybodyslibraries.com/2011/09/27/libraries-be-careful-what-your-web-sites-like/ 15:48 wizzyrea I don't think losgatos is doing that 15:48 jcamins See... 15:48 wizzyrea O.o 15:48 jcamins And links it to your Facebook account. 15:48 jcamins The button Farmington is using reports every page view to the Facebook platform. 15:47 wizzyrea such as? 15:47 jcamins wizzyrea: I'm not sure if the button being used by Los Gatos has the same issue. 15:47 jcamins wizzyrea: but do note that the button being used by Farmington has serious privacy implications. 15:47 * wizzyrea runs away giggling 15:47 * wizzyrea ducks 15:47 * wizzyrea teases 15:47 wizzyrea well who would look there :P 15:46 * wizzyrea incites nengard 15:46 jcamins wizzyrea: instructions for adding Facebook-y buttons are in the manual. 15:46 magnuse ah, that makes sense 15:46 jcamins That's what he did. 15:46 jcamins That's it! 15:46 magnuse he shouldn't have... or maybe he built on my code for making biblionumber etc available as placeholders? 15:45 jcamins magnuse: really? I'm pretty sure sekjal gave you credit for it. 15:44 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6165 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, NEW , OPACResultsSidebar system preference 15:44 magnuse maybe bug 6165 15:44 magnuse no, my code was for "My summary" 15:44 * wizzyrea giggles 15:44 wizzyrea magnus! that's your stuff! 15:44 jcamins I'm pretty sure it made it in. 15:44 jcamins That's magnuse's code. 15:43 wizzyrea I remember him working on ti at kudoscon 15:43 magnuse s/stuff/html/ 15:43 magnuse ah, i think sekjal made a patch for a syspref for putting stuff there? 15:42 wizzyrea twitter and facebook 15:42 wizzyrea see the links on the right 15:42 wizzyrea http://catalog.losgatosca.gov/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=149793 15:42 magnuse can't remember anything, but then i can't claim i managed to keep track of everything that went into 3.6.0... 15:40 wizzyrea no, for the opac 15:40 magnuse or my summary? 15:40 wizzyrea yea 15:40 magnuse for the opac? 15:40 wizzyrea links 15:40 wizzyrea the "send this to facebook" 15:40 magnuse what stuff was that? 15:39 wizzyrea rangi or sekjal would know 15:39 wizzyrea did hankbank's facebook stuff ever make it into koha? 15:05 Oak :-) 15:05 Oak magnuse 15:05 magnuse Oak 15:03 Oak kia ora #koha 15:01 * magnuse wonders of oleonard saw something else in the template that made him run for cover 14:57 * oleonard sees stuff in the template for it 14:57 oleonard well I guess if it ever showed a warning it was a long time ago. I rolled back to just before the T:T transition and no message 14:54 wizzyrea aha 14:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7123 minor, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW , barcode should be one word 14:54 * oleonard was looking at bug 7123 14:53 oleonard we don't use transfers either 14:53 oleonard As far as I can recall it did 14:52 wizzyrea we use the reserves transiting all the time 14:52 wizzyrea I admit we barely ever use transfers unless it's an item that's gotten stuck at a branch wrongfully 14:51 wizzyrea you mean that it used to say "this item is on hold at x for y" or somesuch? 14:50 wizzyrea hmm 14:49 oleonard I can transfer an item which has a hold and I get no message 14:49 wizzyrea uh oh 14:49 wizzyrea ! 14:48 oleonard branchtransfers.pl doesn't seem to be catching items on hold anymore 14:44 trea that sounds good 14:43 wizzyrea nom nom nom 14:43 * magnuse is having left over home made lamb karhai and will be thinking of all the cool people in thane eating the real thing... 14:40 ebegin :) 14:40 * magnuse feels hungry 14:40 * wizzyrea feels educated now 14:39 magnuse "From French omelette, from alemette, from alemelle (�knife blade�), probably derived from la lemelle, from Latin lamella (�thin plate�)." http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/omelette 14:39 ebegin The spelling �omelette� evolved in old French from une amelette: a wide, flat frying pan. After a good spin on the orthographical Ferris wheel of Middle French, after many spelling alterations, ultimately amelette does derive from Latin lamella meaning �thin layer,� �thin blade� or �slender leaf,� referring to the thin blade of iron from which a blacksmith would have hammered out at the forge the earliest frying pan. 14:39 NCARLibrary Grammarist says: For the dish consisting of beaten eggs cooked until set and folded over, Australian, British, and Canadian writers prefer the French spelling, omelette. American writers prefer omelet by a wide margin, and U.S. dictionaries and usage guides concur. 14:39 * wizzyrea giggles 14:38 NCARLibrary Om 14:36 oleonard Is there a word for which omelette is the diminutive form? 14:36 ebegin from wikipedia : "In cuisine, an omelette or omelet is a dish..." 14:35 magnuse 3.4.5 - an omelette with improved breadcrumbs... 14:35 wizzyrea apparently 14:35 ebegin is omelet a word in english ? 14:34 NCARLibrary ooh, 3.4.5 has "improved breadcrumbs"! nice. 14:34 oleonard ebegin: Mozilla likes "omelet" instead, which looks wrong to me. 14:34 oleonard Especially with KohaCon underway 14:34 wizzyrea yea, I'd wait for the first revision 14:34 oleonard There hasn't been much time to catch bugs in 3.6 NCARLibrary 14:33 ebegin oleonard, it would if your language was french :) 14:33 NCARLibrary so i could, in theory, jump directly to 3.6, but it could prove foolhardy? 14:33 * oleonard finds that Mozilla doesn't think omelette is a word 14:33 * tcohen is thinking of hot cheese right now 14:32 wizzyrea it's like a word with a properly raised pinky finger. 14:32 * wizzyrea loves the word omelette 14:32 oleonard Indeed. 14:31 wizzyrea we had to break a lot of eggs? 14:31 oleonard 3.4 was quite the omelette. 14:31 wizzyrea ^^ is what I did 14:31 NCARLibrary boy, if i just hung out in here all day and asked dorky questions, i might get smart. 14:31 wizzyrea etc. :) 14:31 wizzyrea 3.7 is the development version for 3.8 14:30 NCARLibrary right 14:30 NCARLibrary oh, odd numbers. 14:30 wizzyrea so no 14:30 wizzyrea 3.5 is the development version for 3.6 14:30 NCARLibrary is there no 3.5? 14:29 NCARLibrary ok 14:28 NCARLibrary oh 14:28 wizzyrea a lot of those bugs were introduced in 3.4 14:28 NCARLibrary bugs fixes is more correct than bug fixes? 14:27 * wizzyrea speaks typo 14:27 wizzyrea yw 14:27 oleonard Thanks 14:27 wizzyrea bugs* 14:27 oleonard Of course a lot of those bug fixes were introduced in 3.4 ;) 14:27 wizzyrea heh 14:26 NCARLibrary 3.6.0: 356 bug fixes? egad! 14:24 magnuse yay! 14:24 wizzyrea because it's always getting better ^.^ 14:24 wizzyrea yea is better to not get attached to a specific koha version >.> 14:24 wizzyrea hehe 14:24 magnuse sometimes you gotta kill your darlings... 14:23 NCARLibrary well, i'm ready for 3.4.5 then. even though i've had mere weeks to enjoy 3.4.4 14:21 NCARLibrary yes, i had a feeling he was only master of NCAR's (Koha) dungeon. though this detracts nothing from his perceived power. 14:20 * magnuse is planning on doing a test migration from 3.4.5 to 3.6.0 for his customers real soon, though 14:19 oleonard I've heard about those places where you can hire a personal dungeon master 14:19 magnuse 3.6.0 is the epitome of cool, though: http://koha-community.org/koha-3-6-0-released/ 14:19 magnuse yup 14:19 gmcharlt magnuse: hence why 3.6.1 looks attractive 14:19 oleonard I see 14:18 gmcharlt oleonard: well, I'm not the general dungeonmaster, but I am NCARLibrary's *specific* dungeonmaster ;) 14:18 magnuse of course 3.6.0 is the latest and greatest, but i suspsect not a lot of libraries are using that in production yet 14:18 oleonard Besides, gmcharlt turned in his dungeonmaster credentials a while ago (not that his advice is any less valuable) 14:17 NCARLibrary (investigating coolness) 14:17 magnuse look at all the coolness it's got: http://koha-community.org/koha-3-4-5/ 14:17 NCARLibrary i guess there's democracy in the dungeon 14:17 magnuse 3.4.5 is latest stable 14:16 NCARLibrary haha 14:16 gmcharlt NCARLibrary: who am I to fight consensus? ;) 14:16 NCARLibrary from 3.4.4 to what? 14:16 jcamins upgrade++ 14:15 wizzyrea upgrade 14:15 magnuse i'm not galen but i'd say upgrade - that will fix other problems too 14:12 NCARLibrary what say dungeonmaster galen? patch or upgrade? 14:08 oleonard That's my guess anyway 14:08 NCARLibrary ok 14:08 oleonard Or an upgrade 14:07 NCARLibrary so i need a patch applied? 14:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6640 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Template errors in defining default variable values causes information not to be displayed 14:07 oleonard Bug 6640 14:05 NCARLibrary duh. (excuse: just back from 3 wks vacation...brain is shutdown) 14:05 NCARLibrary oh 14:05 gmcharlt NCARLibrary: yep, 3.4.4 is what you're running 14:05 NCARLibrary anyways, i'm selecting Patron category for Row and Shelving Location for column. 14:05 oleonard NCARLibrary: The problem you're having sounds like one that existed in early versions of 3.4 14:04 NCARLibrary (though, when i click on About Koha, it says 3.04.04...) 14:04 NCARLibrary just updated to 3.2.6 14:01 oleonard What version are you on NCARLibrary ? 14:01 NCARLibrary (standby) 14:00 gmcharlt what are you using for the row and column? 14:00 NCARLibrary results show only totals. nothing in body of table. 14:00 NCARLibrary running circ stats w/wizard 14:00 NCARLibrary i wanted to hit you with what seems like an odd glitch... 13:59 NCARLibrary oh hey galen! 13:59 gmcharlt NCARLibrary: I'm here 13:59 NCARLibrary hey gang. has galen popped in yet? 13:59 magnuse guten tag cait 13:58 magnuse you might want to add the name of the index (desc) to some dropdown on the search screens though, sp users can choose it for their search 13:58 talljoy just adding it to an existing index. 13:58 cait hi #koha 13:58 jwagner talljoy, if you're adding a field to an existing index, that will do it. If you're creating a brand new index, there are some additional places to add it. 13:58 jcamins talljoy: one moment. 13:57 magnuse talljoy: that should pretty much do it, i think 13:55 talljoy morning all. I am looking for a way to add a marc field to the indexes. (583$z ) How can I do this? Do I add <melm 583$z desc> to /zebradb/marc_defs/biblios/record.abs and then reindex? Or do I need to add it somewhere else also? 13:52 jcamins Right. 13:52 magnuse looks like bug 5630 was commited, reverted and then commited again 13:52 magnuse blob | commitdiff 13:52 magnuse Chris CormackBug 5630 CAS improvements new/enh/bug_5630 13:52 magnuse 2011-08-10 13:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5630 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , CAS improvements 13:52 magnuse blob | commitdiff 13:52 magnuse Chris CormackRevert "Bug 5630 CAS improvements" 13:52 magnuse 2011-09-02 13:52 magnuse blob | commitdiff 13:52 magnuse Chris CormackBug 5630 CAS improvements 13:52 wahanui 1989 13:52 magnuse 2011-10-12 13:51 jcamins Right. 13:51 magnuse and i just did a git pull before i checked on my clone 13:51 jcamins Yeah, it was re-added 10/12. 13:51 magnuse no it's still here: http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=tree;f=C4;h=33a3dddb2d15fb634316ca699e6c3ee7c7ffe8a7;hb=HEAD 13:51 jcamins Yeah, but then it was removed? 13:50 magnuse 2011-08-10 as far as i can tell from the link i pasted above 13:50 jcamins Maybe. 13:50 jcamins Looks like it was added 10/12. 13:49 jwagner It's not in my current head server, which hasn't been updated in a week or two 13:49 magnuse http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=history;f=C4/Auth_cas_servers.yaml.orig;h=8ad171e0c98b9136992d84103fd4d48de6616137;hb=HEAD 13:49 jcamins I wonder how it got deleted. 13:48 jcamins Hm. Thanks. 13:48 magnuse yup, got it 13:48 jcamins Thanks. 13:47 magnuse checking now... 13:46 jcamins I have no idea where it came from. 13:46 jcamins Does anyone else have the file C4/Auth_cas_servers.yaml.orig? 13:43 jcamins tcohen: you're welcome. 13:39 libsysguy jcamins ftw 13:38 tcohen thanks jcamins 13:38 jcamins Or XML::Entities, perhaps. 13:38 jcamins Yeah, HTML::Entities looks like a good possibility. 13:37 tcohen HTML::Entities perhaps? 13:36 tcohen in which I found double escaped html strings 13:35 tcohen data source is a crapy students database... 13:35 tcohen jcamins, I know thanks, I'm doing some ETL for a library 13:35 libsysguy dunno what you are escaping 13:35 libsysguy if its in the url... 13:34 libsysguy or URI::Escape? 13:34 jcamins tcohen: I suspect T::T includes a filter for that. 13:34 tcohen which (perl) library can I use for unescaping HTML? 13:33 tcohen hi 13:32 * jcamins tosses trea the duct tape. 13:21 oleonard Got your cat-o-nine-tails freshly conditioned? 13:20 gmcharlt he should be showing up in channel later today 13:20 gmcharlt oleonard: hi owen - I'm breaking in a new Equinox employee 13:19 oleonard Hi gmcharlt, what are you up to? 13:19 huginn gmcharlt: Quote #55: "<jdavidb> Harrrrumph!" (added by gmcharlt at 12:38 PM, February 11, 2010) 13:19 gmcharlt @quote random 12:58 talljoy good morning jcamins. 12:58 jcamins Good morning, talljoy. 12:40 sekjal have a good day, all! 12:40 jcamins Enjoy. 12:40 sekjal okay, just about time for the cultural program. Going to go. not sure I'll be back on later tonight; need rest 12:39 jwagner That got it, thanks 12:39 jcamins jwagner: https://twitter.com/#!/search?q=%23kohacon11 12:38 jwagner Used to be, though, if I had a URL I could go there 12:38 jwagner It won't let me search unless I have a Twitter account, and I resolutely refuse.... 12:38 sekjal jwagner: #kohacon11 is the hashtag 12:38 sekjal jcamins: right, wouldn't want Git to feed the records, just track the changes to them by multiple users 12:38 jcamins jwagner: I just went to Twitter. 12:37 jwagner What's the URL for the twitter feed? 12:37 jcamins sekjal: if you want to share a large mass of records, better to use Z39.50 and Zebra than git, I think. 12:37 sekjal jwagner: I know, right?! makes a great story 12:37 * jwagner is puzzled how an airline can lose a carryon. Checked bags, yes, I've had that happen... 12:37 jcamins Good morning. 12:36 sekjal morning, jcamins 12:36 * jcamins_away catches up on the Twitter stream from KohaCon. 12:34 sekjal but outside is toasty 12:34 sekjal well, not *right here*; in air conditioning at the moment 12:34 sekjal very hot here 12:34 sekjal jwagner: I brought my "Kiwi Jersey", the sweater I got when the airline lost my carry-on. Haven't had much need of it beyond the airplane, though 12:31 bg hi jwagner 12:31 jwagner Hi bg 12:30 bg evening 12:30 sekjal we're also pushing translation very hard; Hindi is only 31%, and it's the only one of the 15 languages here with a file 12:29 sekjal I've had several areas of need identified to me, and I've got some leads on how to fix the problems 12:29 sekjal oleonard: hopefully many will show up to the hackfest, and we'll do an introductory developer training 12:28 oleonard sekjal: I hope you'll get a feel for what we can do to get Indian developers more involved with the community 12:26 jwagner Well, at least I'm wearing one of my NZ sweaters :-) 12:22 sekjal the Koha community really is the best around! 12:22 sekjal very exciting stuff 12:22 sekjal also got some previews of new developments that are in progress or soon to be funded 12:22 sekjal lots of good presentations on how Koha works in India (as well as what they need to make it work better) 12:21 sekjal second day is complete; we're getting ready for a cultural program and dinner with our hosts 12:21 jwagner Hope to be there next year 12:21 sekjal jwagner: very well 12:21 jwagner How is the conference going? 12:21 jwagner good morning/evening all 12:18 sekjal good morning, oleonard 12:18 oleonard Hi #koha 11:15 Oak cait++ 11:14 cait bye all 11:13 cait Oak++ 10:35 druthb thanx! 10:35 cait wb druthb 10:35 druthb o/ 10:15 smita now to run off to bed :) nn and thanks again 10:08 magnuse smita: if you see ways to improve the INSTALL.* files that come with the koha download, or the wiki, that's always welcome 10:07 cait smita++ 10:06 magnuse smita++ 10:04 smita it must be indexed now because it works! thank you so much magnuse for putting up with all my questions :) everyone else too for holding your laughter in ;) I will try this again tomorrow if I can find a spare machine to do it with and write step for step what I did so that someone else can follow it in the future if needs be :) 10:02 magnuse smita: "ps aux | grep zebra" or something like that 10:01 smita looks good on that page 10:00 smita ahh ok, I will go make a cup of tea and see if it has come through. Should there be some way for me to see if the zebra indexing service is actually tunning? 10:00 magnuse have a look at /cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=1 to see what it looks like 10:00 magnuse smita: nope, that sounds good - it might take a minute or two before it's inedxed, though 09:59 smita Ive created an item, imported a marc record and then just clicked add item, should I have to do more for it to show up in the frontend search? 09:55 magnuse smita: here are some videos too: http://blip.tv/bywater-solutions-tv/copy-cataloging-in-koha-3-2-4034682 and http://blip.tv/bywater-solutions-tv/fast-cataloging-in-koha-3-2-4037833 09:53 smita now, will try follow this manual and add a book :) brb 09:52 eythian| smita: ah, I think I may have been talking to someone about that a little while ago. 09:51 magnuse way cool! 09:51 smita yeah, just one test in a single library for now, but meeting with 5 councils and I believe will quickly get it into their libraries also. 09:51 magnuse koha in fiji - yay! 09:50 smita tauranga, but it will be used in fiji just being set up here on a laptop to take there to show to some councils 09:50 paul_p (who said there is no link between RWC & UNIMARC ?) 09:50 paul_p magnuse, unimarc is also used in a lot of very large countries: monaco for example :D But for NZ, as they've won the RWC, yes, smita, you have to use marc21 (and let us -frenchies- with UNIMARC) 09:50 paul_p cait & oak: another option to learn how to signoff is to join us at the hackfest, on friday, in Mumbaï, india. Well, it may be a little bit expensive... 09:49 Oak okay, manual first. 09:49 eythian| smita: where in nz? 09:49 cait so yes, downloading the attachment with wget or manually is the first step 09:48 cait and get you to git bz in the next steap 09:48 cait or we can do it the manual way first 09:48 smita thanks magnuse 09:48 cait we should get you git bz 09:48 magnuse smita: http://manual.koha-community.org/3.6/en/cataloging.html#addbibrec 09:48 cait Oak: ah 09:48 magnuse smita: depends on your definition of "hard" ;-) - let me find the relevant page in the manual 09:47 Oak download the attachment ? 09:47 Oak okay 09:47 smita The reason I am actually installing this test system is that the last person to install it somehow managed to not get zebra working. Is it hard for me to add a book or so so that I can test the search? if its a bit of work I'll leave it up to the librarian to do tomorrow but would prefer to know if it works before I show up there. 09:46 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7122 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, NEW , Adding divs to opac-messaging.tt to aid OPAC css styling 09:46 cait bug 7122 is a nice one to start with 09:45 Oak ok ms teacher. please proceed. 09:45 cait mr arslan, i am ready to teach now :P 09:45 Oak here 09:45 wahanui i think Oak is Arslan. I am a student doing masters in Library Science (2nd semester). I am a web developer and work in Joomla. 09:45 cait Oak? 09:45 cait hmhmhm 09:40 smita thx 09:40 smita think I should just add it all? its just for testing indeed 09:40 magnuse if so, i would add all the optional data 09:40 magnuse are you just setting up an installation for testing and playing around? 09:40 magnuse not easily 09:38 smita all the "optional" stuff with checkboxes, can this be added later? 09:38 magnuse unimarc is mostly used in france, i think it's fair to say? 09:38 magnuse as far as i know 09:38 magnuse ah, marc21 is the way to go then 09:38 smita new zealand 09:38 magnuse where in the world are you? 09:37 magnuse smita: not changed easily 09:37 smita I have to choose marc21 or unimarc for this user to begin with, not sure which is most common, or, can that be changed easily later? 09:37 smita any nz librarians here? 09:36 Oak :) 09:36 cait can't promise 09:35 Oak okay. don't use it as tray this time 09:34 cait Oak: 10 minutes, ok? moving the laptop downstairs to the big table 09:34 francharb 0/ all 09:34 smita thank you 09:34 smita LOL 09:34 cait hehe 09:34 magnuse <pass>password</pass> 09:34 magnuse smita: it should look like this: <user>username</user> 09:34 eythian| You want the DB block password 09:34 Oak not baking cookies :) 09:34 smita eythian yeah its the only one in the file with password, except for the one in the db block. 09:34 Oak yes! what else? 09:34 cait Oak: free for what, teaching you sign off? :) 09:33 wahanui Oak is Arslan. I am a student doing masters in Library Science (2nd semester). I am a web developer and work in Joomla. 09:33 cait Oak? 09:32 eythian| smita: the bottom one in the file 09:32 Oak cait let me know when free 09:28 smita <serverinfo id="biblioserver"> 09:28 smita should be in this block right? 09:25 sekjal cheers 09:25 sekjal be back if I find a power outlet I can fit into 09:25 sekjal low battery, going to disappear for a bit 09:25 cait hm it should work 09:25 smita didn't edit either just c/p :S and yeah didnt use the mysql one 09:24 cait did you edit the right one? 09:24 cait there are 2 passwords I think, one for mysql one for the backend 09:24 smita is there a default user/pass for the backend? I edited the file it said it was in but that pass doesnt seem to work for the screen lol 09:21 magnuse yay 09:21 smita that seems to have worked :) 09:16 smita yeah it does, its the hosts file issue, will reboot the pc see if that helps the dashed thing take affect, be back shortly. 09:14 magnuse have a look in /etc/apache2/sistes-enabled/mylibrary and see if ServerName and ServerAlias says what you thin it should say 09:13 smita not sure why my hosts file change didnt take effect, really weird cause this is a fresh install too. 09:13 magnuse smita: yes, might be 09:13 smita could be an issue with me not using the correct domain? 09:12 smita that worked, but unfortunately it just says url / wasnt found on this server. 09:11 magnuse did you add "Listen 8080" to /etc/apache2/ports.conf (i might be remebering that name wrong)? 09:10 smita problem loading page, so I guess apache isnt listening there, Ill google that though Im sure its covered online :) 09:10 magnuse hm, what do you get when you open localhost:8080 ? 09:09 smita 8080 isnt enabled I guess, any idea on doing that properly? 09:09 magnuse smita: the good news is you a re almost done! ;-) 09:09 smita thank you magnuse , been a great help so far :) 09:09 smita not sure why my hosts file change isnt taking effect :S 09:09 Oak there is one 3.4 installation on my Slackware. can i have a wiki link on how to upgrade old installations? 09:09 magnuse smita: you need to go to localhost:8080 and do the web part of the install! 09:08 smita however it then goes "The Koha Online Catalog is offline for system maintenance. We'll be back soon! If you have any questions, please contact the Site Administrator" 09:08 Oak sure, wait 09:08 smita seems to work fine from localhost url :P 09:08 cait there is a patch from liz for adding a div with an id tag 09:08 cait you could start with something easy for sign-off 09:08 cait congratulations :) 09:07 magnuse smita: time to have a look in /etc/apache2/sistes-enabled/mylibrary 09:07 cait Oak++:) 09:07 Oak :) 09:07 magnuse Oak++ 09:07 Oak not Debian 09:07 Oak magnuse, i got the Koha installed from git cloned folder, and ran the setup, and it's all set up. on my Slackware. 09:06 smita that is just a real site and my hosts file isnt working I guess lol 09:06 smita oh no it doesnt ;) 09:05 smita https: works :P 09:05 smita ooh sorry 09:05 smita first didnt help but did ask for reload (which I did) second gave "default site already disabled" 09:04 magnuse then do "sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 reload" and see if that helped 09:03 magnuse or is that "sudo a2dissite 000-default"? i never remember... 09:03 magnuse try "sudo a2dissite default" to disable the default site (unless you use it for something else, of course) 09:02 magnuse a hah - 000-default might be the problem 09:02 smita 2 files, mylibrary and 000-default 09:02 magnuse it's a directory, it should have a file for your koha site 09:01 smita have not touched that file, will go have a look thanks 09:01 magnuse what have you got in /etc/apache2/sistes-enabled ? 09:00 magnuse maybe the default site is masking koha? 09:00 smita I pointed the fake url to 127.0.0.1 which is just the apache root not the koha root I guess :S 09:00 magnuse hm, do you get "it works!" 08:59 smita yes 08:59 magnuse smita: did you edit /etc/hosts 08:59 magnuse yay 08:59 druthb magnuse: in my final slide, same as in at KUDOS. I'll be uploading slides to my blog later. 08:58 smita okay the install seems to have gone okay, the question I now have is, how would I access it via the browser? when I access my fake domain I just get to the apache root on the server, sorry if this is covered somewhere :S have been struggling a couple of days now. 08:58 magnuse ;-) 08:58 * magnuse needs to see that! 08:57 druthb :D 08:57 cait omg 08:56 * druthb had pictures of both magnuse and cait in her presentation 08:56 magnuse ooh, nice 08:55 Irma .. we are talking a lot about our absent friends so it feels you are a bit here as well ... 08:54 magnuse i wonder if anyone has a number for how many koha installations there are in india... 08:53 magnuse have fun Irma! 08:53 cait have fun :) 08:53 Irma ciao ... I will listen to the very interesting survey of Indian libraries being presented now ... 08:52 Irma yes with number 63 08:52 magnuse yay 08:52 magnuse i had to lol a little when i saw the address had been translated - "black hammar road" or something ;-) 08:52 Irma it's 5 meters away from me and looks big and proud:) 08:51 magnuse Irma: thanks, but druthb fixed one for me already 08:51 Irma I will send you a photo of the banner re your KohaCon 11 sponsorphip 08:51 smita oh of course, thanks magnuse 08:51 magnuse hi Irma 08:51 magnuse you could give it a domain of say "mykoha" and then map that to localhost in /etc/hosts 08:50 Irma hi magnuse :-) 08:50 magnuse yay 08:50 smita ubuntu 10.04 32bit 08:50 cait Irma: cool :) hoffe wir hören/sehen ein bisschen was vom hackfest und wir haben ja gbsd am freitag :) 08:50 magnuse smita: what operating system are you using? 08:50 smita should I just use localhost? or just use a fake domain and it will be okay without actually existing? 08:50 Irma :-) 08:49 magnuse smita: yes, that is how it's written, but you should be able to do without it too 08:49 Irma Hindi 08:49 Irma manche personen von India werden auf der ubersetzung arbeite 08:49 smita haha yes I had this open, I was just unsure about this because it seems to need a domain ? 08:49 Irma cait es ist sehr interresant und wir fruenuns auf dem hackfest 08:48 smita thank you magnuse 08:48 magnuse smita: it should be explained here: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.4_on_Debian_Squeeze#Quick_Start 08:48 cait Wie ist Indien? :) 08:48 Irma schoen! 08:48 Irma cait schon :-) 08:48 cait noch diese Woche 08:47 Irma gut! Fur wie lange? 08:47 cait gut - im Urlaub :) 08:47 smita I have just finally gotten koha-common to install on my local laptop for a test instance, but I am not sure how to set up a "library" which I can access from localhost, can anyone suggest a document with examples as to how to do this? 08:47 Irma cait wie geht's dir? 08:47 cait ich mir auch! :) 08:47 Irma cait ich wunche mir du warst auch hier 08:46 magnuse hi smita 08:46 wahanui hola, smita 08:46 smita hello 08:45 cait guten morgen Irma :) 08:45 BobB Excellent Kohacon so far 08:45 cait hi BobB :) 08:45 BobB hi magneuse, hi #koha 08:43 cait magnuse++ for his usual awesomeness 08:43 magnuse kia ora BobB and Irma 08:42 magnuse i'm gonna propose having it as a theme or track or whatever at kohacon12 08:41 magnuse i think we need to start thinking about this 08:41 magnuse i have tried to start an RFC on the wiki: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Semantic_data_RFC 08:41 cait magnuse: you want hope - I can understand that ;) 08:41 magnuse eythian|: yeah, but i think these are steps in the right direction 08:40 cait eythian: same for me 08:40 druthb :) thanx, cait 08:40 eythian| magnuse : I'll believe it when I see it :-) 08:40 cait ... and for the record - you rock the sari :) 08:39 cait hi druthb :) 08:39 druthb o/ 08:39 eythian| cait: cool 08:38 magnuse eythian|: looks like MARC is starting to fade now, the LoC seems very much in favour of semantic data. yay!!! 08:36 cait I like your slides! 08:36 magnuse yay 08:36 cait hi eythian :) 08:35 eythian| hi cait 08:35 wahanui http://marc-must-die.info 08:35 eythian| wahanui: marc 07:51 cait hi magnuse :) 07:51 magnuse guten morgen cait 07:51 cait morning #koha 07:42 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 3966] receiving items should allow for entering barcode <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3966> 07:40 * sekjal leaves for lunch, as well 07:40 sekjal magnuse: some people come only for one day or another, so it varies 07:38 * druthb signs off for lunch 07:38 druthb There are about a hundred, magnuse, but I've not heard an official number. 07:37 magnuse is there an official number of attendees at kohacon? 07:36 magnuse nah, not at all... ;-) 07:34 stuartyeates magnuse: it's not like it's been smelling dead for a while now or anything... 07:30 magnuse "The new bibliographic framework project will be focused on the Web environment, Linked Data principles and mechanisms, and the Resource Description Framework (RDF) as a basic data model." 07:29 magnuse btw: it looks like MARC is dead: "A Bibliographic Framework for the Digital Age" http://www.loc.gov/marc/transition/news/framework-103111.html 07:28 magnuse yeah, save some energy for the hackfest 07:26 sekjal no late hacking tonight 07:25 sekjal so long as I take it easy, I should be okay 07:25 sekjal thanks, magnuse 07:25 magnuse here's hoping sekjal gets better real soon! 07:25 magnuse yay 07:23 druthb It's going well, other than poor sekjal being sick. I'm done with my presentation, so I'm feeling much better. 07:23 magnuse ooh 07:23 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 34.0�C (12:10 PM IST on November 01, 2011). Conditions: Smoke. Humidity: 41%. Dew Point: 19.0�C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Falling). 07:23 magnuse @wunder mumbai 07:22 magnuse Oak 07:22 Oak magnuse 07:22 magnuse how are things going in thane? 07:22 * druthb sets up a quarantine zone around sekjal, just in case. 07:22 sekjal good morning, magnuse 07:21 eythian| hi magnuse 07:21 magnuse yay! 07:21 druthb namaste, magnuse. 07:20 magnuse namaste #koha 07:10 Oak http://www.tarladalal.com/Kashmiri-Kahwa-4219r 07:10 Oak sekjal, if you can, drink Kashmiri Kahwa 07:06 Oak :) good. 07:06 sekjal Oak: just one at a time, as they wear off :) 07:06 sekjal s/if/it/ 07:06 Oak well, don't eat all of them 07:06 sekjal I'll take an early night tonight, and hope to sleep if off 07:06 sekjal Oak: everyone is handing me meds 07:04 Oak take good care of that. 07:03 Oak because of dust may be... in the air 07:03 Oak uh oh 07:03 sekjal my voice is weak 07:03 sekjal upper respitory, coughing 07:03 Oak what happened 07:02 sekjal Oak: no, I'm sick 07:02 Oak why tired? feeling okay? 07:02 Oak good work with the camera sekjal :) 07:01 sekjal very tired today 07:01 * sekjal looks up in a daze 07:01 * druthb points at sekjal. 07:01 druthb thanx, Oak. I had a great photographer. 07:00 Oak purple sari! very very nice :) 06:58 druthb Pics are up of me rocking the sari: http://s1235.photobucket.com/albums/ff431/druthb/Kohacon%202011/Sari-Kohacon%202011/ 06:22 huginn Oak: The operation succeeded. 06:22 Oak @later tell cait i'll give Debian another try however... later. 06:21 Oak fair enough 06:21 Oak okay. :) 06:21 druthb ask someone who saw it...they're the ones who benefit, not me. 06:20 druthb I think. 06:20 Oak you think? :D 06:20 druthb went well, I think. :) 06:20 Oak the presentation 06:20 Oak :) how was it druthb 06:19 huginn Oak: The operation succeeded. 06:19 Oak @later tell cait Koha development version (git cloned) installed and working, but on my Slackware \o/ 06:19 * druthb is moderating a lightning round. :) 04:12 Phlunk4 its okay guys, will come beg for more support this evening when I get home :) thanks for the help 04:10 Phlunk4 I need to enable more repos I believe :) 04:10 Phlunk4 ahh 04:09 ibeardslee oh 04:09 ibeardslee could also try installing each of those dependancies individually 04:09 Phlunk4 says the same with the -f also unfortunately 04:09 ibeardslee if I understand it right, it'll work a bit hard at getting them sorted 04:08 Phlunk4 that will mean I am missing dependancies though yeah? 04:08 Phlunk4 lol 04:08 ibeardslee 'apt-get -f install koha-common' might do it 04:07 ibeardslee there is some magic incantation that should sort that 04:07 ibeardslee shouldn't matter 04:06 Phlunk4 nm will work on it tonight from home :) maybe cause I had 64 bit ubuntu though? 04:05 Phlunk4 sorry for spam 04:05 Phlunk4 Depends: libtext-csv-encoded-perl but it is not installable 04:05 Phlunk4 Depends: libpdf-api2-simple-perl but it is not installable 04:05 Phlunk4 Depends: libmemoize-memcached-perl but it is not installable 04:05 Phlunk4 Depends: liblocale-currency-format-perl but it is not installable 04:05 Phlunk4 koha-common: Depends: libhttp-oai-perl but it is not installable 04:04 Phlunk4 any idea about this issue? 04:02 ibeardslee should just now be able to to 'apt-get update' and then 'apt-get install koha-common' .. I think 04:00 Phlunk4 hi guys, can someone tell me how to add the koha repo for ubuntu so I can use apt to install koha-common? I already added deb http://debian.koha-community.org/koha squeeze main to my sources.list :S 03:59 * druthb gets her head screwed on straight for her presentation. 03:51 phlunk3 thx druthb :) 03:50 Khdw I want using dedicated server on the internet. Like I-Page.com 03:49 druthb phlunk3: when you do the apt-get install, it should pick up mysql-server and apache2 automagically. 03:47 phlunk3 begging for an answer guys :P got someone from a np here who will be off to fiji shortly to show off koha to the local councils and just needs a base install to show oh her laptop. 03:47 Khdw Can I installing internet ? 03:46 Khdw I want installing Koha on I-Page 03:46 Khdw I.m writing from Mongolia 03:46 wahanui what's up, Khdw 03:46 Khdw Hello 03:43 phlunk3 completely fresh ubuntu install, I want to install koha-common, do I need to install mysql-server and apache first or will they be prompted? and is there any online walkthrough for this process? can't seem to find anything for ubuntu using koha-common online but am sure I've used it before. 03:39 Irma hi all from Thane 03:35 druthb it's *glorious*. I'll have pictures right after my presentation, which starts an hour from now. 03:35 Oak cool 03:35 Oak hehe 03:35 * druthb blushes 03:35 wahanui it has been said that druthb is rocking the sari. 03:35 druthb wahanui: druthb? 03:34 Oak :] 03:34 druthb \o/ 03:34 Oak \o 03:34 druthb o/ 03:34 bg heya Oak 03:34 Oak morning bg 03:33 bg morning all 03:25 Oak kia ora #koha 01:26 phlunk3 thanks cait. 01:21 cait misc/cronjobs or something like that 01:21 phlunk3 still waiting to see the librarians system so not 100% sure what help she needs yet :) 01:21 cait yes 01:21 phlunk3 thanks cait, in the git repo is an example you mean? 01:21 cait phlunk3: and information about the different jobs can be found in the manual 01:21 cait phlunk3: there is an example file for the cronjobs in koha 00:37 phlunk3 she was saying she had issues setting up the cron jobs, but I don't see any mention of cron requirements in this install method ( http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.4_on_Debian_Squeeze_%28Git_Method%29#Installation ) am I missing something? 00:34 phlunk3 found the directions now ;) 00:33 phlunk3 hey guys, just about to have a librarian visit me as she has tried to install koha on a debian machine from git and is having problems. I have only ever installed koha via the packages. Are there also packages available for debian? and if not can anyone point me to an installation guide from git (I didnt google yet, about to look ;))