Time Nick Message 00:21 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7117] Small display problems when organising suggestion tabs by name <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7117> 00:29 Judit hi 00:29 wahanui hola, Judit 00:36 cait hi Judit :) 00:37 Judit hi cait 00:37 Judit tell me something good 00:38 cait um 00:38 cait now I can't - too much pressure 00:38 Judit i need someencouragement 00:39 Judit i just spent 3 hours configuring a slip printet on winxp 00:43 cait oh 00:43 cait I had some windows time today too 00:43 cait it's evil 00:43 Judit it is 00:43 cait hmmm 00:43 cait I am presenting to students at library school tomorrow 00:43 cait about koha and open source ils 00:43 Judit last time i used windows xp 10 years ago 00:43 cait is this good? 00:43 Judit very good! 00:45 Judit tell them not to use win xp- freaks out poor koha people :) 00:45 Judit or just me 00:49 cait hehe 00:49 cait I can try 00:55 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7118] Any and empty entries in pull downs for suggestion filters <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7118> 00:57 Judit it works 00:57 Judit i can print slips from koha 00:58 cait whoohoo :) 01:00 Judit :) 02:43 * chris_n wanders by 03:41 Amit_Gupta heya chris 03:52 sekjal greetings from KohaCon '11 ! 03:53 rangi heya sekjal and Amit_Gupta 03:53 Amit_Gupta heya sekjal 03:53 sekjal good morning, Amit_Gupta 03:54 rangi many people there? 03:54 druthb o/ 03:54 rangi hey druthb 03:54 rangi jo up now? 03:55 Amit_Gupta chris i m going to mumbai on 4th for hackfast 03:56 sekjal rangi: I think there are about 100 people in the room right now 03:56 rangi cool not bad sekjal 03:56 rangi Amit_Gupta: cool 03:57 druthb I concur sekjal's count...100, possibly a few more. There's a large crowd of students in the back of one side. 03:58 rangi cool 03:58 Amit_Gupta heya druthb 03:59 rangi jransom killing it with her slides? 03:59 sekjal she's doing a lovely job 03:59 * druthb is tweeting. rangi has already been mentioned. 04:00 rangi heh 04:00 druthb she looks *glorious* in her sari. 04:00 rangi i hope it was marc must die that i was quoted saying 04:00 rangi or 'these rules are crazy' 04:00 druthb nope. "How hard can it be?" 04:00 rangi that came up a few times 04:00 druthb :P 04:01 rangi it wouldnt be hard if libraries had sane rules :) 04:01 rangi i need to only issue this book if the moon is 3/4 full .... but only on tuesdays 04:02 druthb lol 04:02 sekjal unless the patron is wearing a hat, or has ever been to East Timor 04:02 rangi i think im going to use that as the title of my next presentation 04:03 druthb [off] not gonna tweet what she just said...nope, nope, nope... 04:12 druthb rangi and wizzyrea both mentioned right at the end; she can't remember which came up with "don't be a dick!" 04:13 rangi heh 04:13 rangi i think wizzyrea 04:15 sekjal paul_p's up now, to present on Koha's history 04:16 rangi cool 04:17 druthb he apologized for his accent: "I'm from France...I'm French." hehehehe 04:35 * druthb waves to Irma from the back of the room 04:38 Irma hi druthb ah ... that is where you are ... 04:38 Irma is mtj there too? 04:39 sekjal Irma: yes, mtj is behind druthb and I. back of the left-hand side of the room 04:41 druthb Irma: I'm @druthb on twitter...may I follow you? 04:54 sekjal I do so love the "10 Years in 10 Minutes" video... always so inspiring 04:58 druthb buffering...buffering... 05:06 sekjal idea for Koha stats: contributions by country (via paul_p) 05:08 sekjal tea/coffee break! 05:13 * Oak waves 05:13 Oak kia ora druthb :) 05:24 stuartyeates rangi: looks like i've been surprise-nominated to provide tech support for a session you and Paul are running tomorrow at lianza 05:24 stuartyeates but i have no idea what's needed 05:39 francharb hi all! 05:39 francharb in direct from kohacon2011 05:39 francharb ;) 05:39 Amit_Gupta heya francharb 05:40 * Oak wants to say "lucky bastards" but thinks that would be rude. 05:41 Oak some thoughts must never be spoken. 05:47 druthb Hi, Oak! I do wish you were here, my friend. 05:48 Oak :) i know. 05:48 Oak hopefully next year though... 05:48 druthb :D 05:49 * Oak goes to find that Pink Floyd song 05:54 Oak http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXdNnw99-Ic 05:57 bg helll 06:01 Amit_Gupta ;D 06:01 * druthb waves to bg, and chucks Skittles at him from the back of the room. 06:01 bg heh 06:02 bg Amit_Gupta: are you here? 06:02 bg whoops that was supposed to be hello not helll 06:02 bg heh typos upfront 06:17 eythian http://ubuntuone.com/0YpnDPhUfyh2Txv4YFq3K0 06:21 francharb brooke's fantasy is about to begin 06:21 francharb :) 06:24 AndChat| http://ubuntuone.com/3ob6lHdZ9oUnjaEo93oa8t <-- Brooke 06:26 Oak coooool 06:41 sci123 Forbidden You don't have permission to access / on this server. Additionally, a 403 Forbidden error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request. 06:41 sci123 can anyone help us 06:41 sci123 pls 06:47 francharb almost lunch time 06:47 francharb see ya 06:49 eythian sci123: your Apache is mis-configured. I can't really say how, but that's where you need to look. 06:50 sci123 actually 80 port is running ..bt 8080 is not 06:50 sci123 can u help us 06:50 sci123 ? 06:51 sci123 when we try to run koha on localhost:8080,we r getting the follwing error : 06:51 sci123 Forbidden You don't have permission to access / on this server. Additionally, a 403 Forbidden error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request. 06:53 sci123 eythian r u there? 06:57 sekjal sci123: have you updated ports.conf to include line "Listen 8080" ? 06:57 sci123 yes 06:57 sekjal and restarted Apache after? 06:58 sci123 yes 06:58 sci123 we r getting permission problem 06:58 sci123 regarding 8080 port 06:58 sekjal firewall? 06:58 sci123 we r installing it on ubuntu 06:58 sci123 .. 07:01 sekjal NameVirtualHosts in koha-httpd.conf? 07:02 sci123 #NameVirtualHost * this 07:02 sci123 ? 07:02 sci123 right nw it is commented 07:02 sci123 we have to uncomment it or not? 07:02 sci123 and wat to write ? 07:03 sekjal try uncommenting, but the default settings should work out-of-the-box 07:03 sci123 let me try 07:04 sci123 it is nt working 07:04 sci123 sry 07:05 sekjal check file permissions in koha directories... that's the last thing I can think of. should be readable by www-data user 07:06 sekjal I hope that helps... I must go now (break time at KohaCon conference). back in an hour or so 07:06 * sekjal waves to cait on his way to lunch 07:06 cait hi #koha :) 07:07 sci123 help us 07:07 sci123 koha is not running on 8080 port 07:07 sci123 we r getting permisswion problem 07:07 sci123 permission* 07:10 Oak hello cait 07:12 cait hi Oak :) 07:12 Oak :] 07:13 cait sci123: I am not sure how to help you without knowing what you have done (and apache does not like me much) 07:14 sci123 we have followed all the steps .......................changed all the apache configuration file 07:14 sci123 s 07:14 sci123 and when tried to run webinstaller on 8080 07:14 sci123 we got an error that we have no permission to access / on this server 07:14 sci123 nw help us 07:15 rangi stuartyeates: ahh just laptops with a webbrowser on them, we should be fine :) 07:16 sci123 ??? 07:17 cait sci123: i think that was on a different topic 07:17 cait what is the exact error message you see? 07:17 sci123 Forbidden You don't have permission to access / on this server. Additionally, a 403 Forbidden error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request. 07:18 cait sci123: this looks like a problem with your apache settings 07:18 cait not koha 07:19 sci123 plz help us 07:19 sci123 can u tell us what to do 07:19 sci123 ? 07:20 cait sorry, I have to go 07:20 sci123 ok thanx alot for ur time 07:21 cait if you can, come back a little later and try again asking on the channel or write a mail to the mailing list, but make sure to include as much information as possible (version you installed, tutorial you followed, problems you see) 07:21 sci123 we already installed koha 5 times 07:22 sci123 this time we got 8080 problem 07:28 stuartyeates sci123: that looks very much like an apache permissions error 07:41 reiveune hello 07:41 wahanui hi, reiveune 07:43 Oak hello reiveune :) 08:02 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6679] Fixing code so it passes basic Perl::Critic tests <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6679> 08:04 rangi you're up in a couple of hours eh eythian ? 08:05 eythian Yeah about 3.5 hours 08:05 cait hi mr robin :) 08:05 rangi cool 08:05 eythian Hi cait :) 08:05 rangi it going well? 08:05 magnuse kia ora #koha 08:06 eythian So far, about 3 people have foreshadowed my topic :) 08:06 eythian It is going pretty well 08:06 magnuse must be a good topic, then! 08:06 eythian I think so ;) 08:07 magnuse "No Library Left Behind: Keeping Up With Koha" yay! 08:07 eythian All about upstreaming of things 08:08 rangi sweet 08:08 magnuse upstreaming++ 08:08 cait 8zuu 08:08 cait u 08:08 cait 9zeeuu 08:09 magnuse oops 08:09 magnuse ;-) 08:09 cait oups 08:10 eythian Time cait changed some passwords... 08:10 cait was carrying laptop downstars 08:10 * cait note to myself: don't use laptop keyboard as tray 08:10 eythian Heh 08:10 magnuse hehe 08:10 Oak magnuse 08:10 magnuse Oak 08:11 Oak hello Mr. Robin 08:11 eythian Hi oak 08:11 Oak :) 08:11 cait hi Oak :) 08:12 cait eythian: when is your presentation? 08:12 Oak :) hello Katrin 08:12 eythian In a few hours 08:13 cait hm mine too 08:14 cait was wondering if we will be presenting at the same time :) 08:14 cait mine starts in 2:30 08:15 rangi pretty close 08:15 eythian Actually, mines in 2.15, I miscalculated before 08:15 cait :) 08:15 bg heya all 08:15 cait I will tell them to not listen to me but check the tweets 08:15 eythian Haha 08:15 magnuse hi bg 08:16 Oak well, now when two will start your own presentations, you'll think about that! about the the other one. nice. 08:16 magnuse cait: where are you presenting? 08:16 cait library school 08:17 eythian You could be presenting here, but nooooo.. ;) 08:17 magnuse cait: cool 08:17 cait lol 08:17 cait it's scary enough in German 08:17 cait perhaps if I could chat the presentation instead of talking... that could work :P 08:18 eythian Heh it might, no promises though :) 08:20 Oak hm, a little bird just tweeted 08:20 magnuse http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/kohacon11/ yay! 08:21 * cait checks herself for feathers 08:24 * eythian uploads a couple of photos 08:25 cait eythian: link? 08:26 eythian http://www.flickr.com/photos/eythian 08:26 magnuse eythian++ 08:27 cait brooke in a sari photo! 08:27 magnuse yay! 08:27 magnuse hiya sekjal 08:27 Oak yup :) 08:28 sekjal hi, magnuse! 08:28 cait ok, have to go 08:28 magnuse having fun, sekjal? 08:28 cait good luck eythian :) 08:28 sekjal hi, cait, bye cait! 08:29 magnuse guten gl�ck cait 08:29 sekjal magnuse: yes, this is amazing 08:29 cait thx magnuse :) 08:29 eythian You too! 08:29 eythian Paul is up now again 08:29 magnuse yay 08:30 sekjal paul_p talking about how the community works 08:30 sekjal my answer: very well :) 08:30 rangi :) 08:30 magnuse paul_p++ 08:31 Oak just a quick question meaning to ask since that day (http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/koha/2011-10-26#i_798078), and i run perl Makefile.PL from inside that cloned folder, yes? if yes then if I choose 'dev', from 'standard', 'single' and 'dev'. right? I know it's not the best time to ask this question (KohaCon!!). so sorry about that in advance. 08:31 rangi yes, dev 08:31 Oak ok good. thank you. 08:32 Amit_Gupta heya Oak 08:32 Oak Namaste Amit_Gupta :) 08:32 Amit_Gupta Namaste 08:32 Amit_Gupta ;D 08:34 Oak welcome back druthb 08:35 druthb Thanks, Oak. We're back from lunch, and paul_p is at the front again. The food was wonderful! I got hold of something *really* spicy, though. 08:36 magnuse hehe 08:36 Oak hehe. 08:36 Oak enjoy karein ji ap. 08:37 Oak you should try Baryani in next lunch... or tomorrow 08:38 * magnuse wonders if mtj found anything hot enough yet 08:38 sekjal how many people are on the mailing list, roughly? 08:39 rangi the main one? 08:39 rangi 1684 08:39 sekjal thanks, rangi! 08:54 eythian_phone Ok all the photos I have are up now 08:54 druthb Hi, cait! 08:54 Amit_Gupta heya druthb 08:57 druthb hi, Amit_Gupta! :) 08:59 Amit_Gupta druthb: how is conference going on 08:59 magnuse eythian_phone: looks like the kohacon11 tag isn't working for you? strange... 09:00 eythian_phone Yeah I don't know why, maybe it takes time to update. 09:01 druthb Amit_Gupta: going well. Very nice conference facility, lots of friendly local folk here....and the lunch was *wonderful*. 09:01 eythian Yeah I don't know why, maybe it takes time to update. 09:01 magnuse eythian: yeah, could be 09:13 sekjal would it be possible to get download statistics from download.koha-community.org for India, by state if possible? 09:14 sekjal do we store those stats? 09:14 rangi hmm not by state 09:14 rangi we have by country 09:14 sekjal link? 09:15 rangi http://download.koha-community.org/awstats/awstats.pl 09:15 rangi click on countries on the lef 09:15 rangi t 09:15 rangi 115 in october 09:15 * druthb waves to jransom. 09:15 rangi 106 in september 09:15 jransom heya all 09:15 rangi hey jransom 09:15 wahanui hmmm... jransom is so pleased! 09:16 jransom how was lianza today rangi? 09:16 magnuse kia ora jransom 09:16 rangi not bad, got a lot of govt depts coming to talk to us 09:16 jransom heya magnus-in-a-kilt 09:16 magnuse tee hee 09:16 mtj_mumbai hi all 09:16 rangi tomorrow is workship 09:16 rangi shop even 09:16 sekjal great, thank you, rangi 09:17 sekjal a colleague here is doing a research paper 09:17 mtj_mumbai jransom: i've got your multi-box 09:17 * magnuse lols at workship 09:17 magnuse mtj_mumbai: found any chili to your liking yet? 09:18 mtj_mumbai magnuse: not yet, but tonight i will :p 09:19 * druthb has gotta-gotta get some work done tonight. After going to the tailor to pick up my sari, of course. 09:19 magnuse happy hunting mtj_mumbai! 09:19 sekjal FYI: annual view of AWS stats for download.koha-community.org is disabled; can only view by month 09:19 rangi yup 09:19 rangi thats on purpose 09:19 rangi it beats the hell out of the server 09:19 mtj_mumbai we may go out later, for a kolhap u ri rassa 09:20 rangi so ppl will just have to aggregate themselves 09:23 sekjal rangi: okay, cool 09:23 jransom mtj_mumbai : i am in bcak of room 09:23 jransom behind brooke 09:24 jransom @rangi funny that govt departs are moving to koha bit not libraries 09:24 huginn jransom: I've exhausted my database of quotes 09:24 eythian http://m.flickr.com/#/photos/eythian/6298263842/ 09:24 rangi 2612 + 269 + 444 09:24 wahanui 3325 09:24 druthb jransom: I finally spotted you...you changed!? I was looking for that wonderful sari! 09:24 rangi you mean public libraries? 09:25 rangi they are slow slow slow 09:25 rangi to decided anything 09:25 rangi specials, govt, academic etc all move a lot faster 09:25 rangi 3325 downloads of 3.4.5 or 3.6.0 in october alone 09:26 jransom i had to go back to hotel 09:26 jransom but came back 09:26 jransom (so sick of being sick) 09:26 jransom and determined not to miss out on anything at kohacon - bad enough with 1 day io bed preconference 09:32 jransom and here we all are 09:33 * druthb1 wonders how this network got hos hiccup-ey. 09:33 * cait waves 09:33 cait and off again - train arriving :) 09:33 Oak later cait 09:34 Oak do talk to strangers 09:34 jransom cya babe 09:34 rangi cya cait 09:37 Amit_Gupta heya cait 09:37 Oak perl Makefile.PL says, "unable to locate Koha configuration file koha-conf.xml at /home/silas/koha1/C4/Context.pm line 307." do I ignore it and go for 'dev' installation? 09:38 * Oak googles "unable to locate Koha configuration file koha-conf.xml" 09:38 druthb1 yes, Oak...on a new install, it'll do that. 09:39 Oak oh good 09:39 Oak okay 09:39 Oak thank you. 09:55 jransom Amit: are you here at KohaCon? 09:57 Amit_Gupta heya jransom: i am coming on 4th nov 09:57 Amit_Gupta for kohaconf 09:58 druthb1 away for tea. back shortly. 09:58 sekjal ^^ 10:10 cait and hi again #koha ;) 10:11 Amit_Gupta heya cait 10:11 cait hi Amit_Gupta :) 10:11 Amit_Gupta cait : r u in conf? 10:11 cait no 10:11 cait in stuttgart today to give a presentation about koha 10:11 Amit_Gupta ok 10:11 cait but seems people are having a good time at the conf :) 10:11 cait you are there? 10:12 Amit_Gupta no i m going on 4th 10:12 Amit_Gupta nov 10:16 cait :) 10:30 cait ok, I am gone 10:45 jransom Amit: please make sure you come and introduce yourself to me ok :) 10:46 bg same here Amit! I need to get a picture with you 10:46 bg :) 10:48 Amit_Gupta sure jrnasom 10:48 Amit_Gupta aah bg 10:49 bg Amit_Gupta: my wife told me I had to get a picture of you :D 10:49 bg you are famous in our house :) 10:49 Amit_Gupta aah why i am famous in you house 10:50 Amit_Gupta bg: why i am famous in your house 10:50 bg from IRC - and always saying hi to me - when I used to have the nick of brendan 10:50 Amit_Gupta ;D 10:50 Amit_Gupta aah 10:50 Amit_Gupta sure 10:50 * druthb1 wants to meet Amit_Gupta, too! 10:50 Amit_Gupta i am also druthb1 10:52 jransom Actually Amit, you should have been here the whole time. 10:53 Amit_Gupta hmm i m busy in some projects 10:54 jransom how often will kohacon come to India my friend 10:54 Amit_Gupta so coming on 4th 11:15 * druthb1 waves, and heads out. 11:24 sekjal conference done for the day. going to get some rest 11:25 francharb 0/ les gens! 11:25 francharb 0/ all of you 11:25 francharb ! 11:25 francharb see ya 11:29 magnuse @wunder mumbai 11:29 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 33.0�C (3:40 PM IST on October 31, 2011). Conditions: Smoke. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: 20.0�C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady). 11:29 magnuse @wunder thane 11:29 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 33.0�C (3:40 PM IST on October 31, 2011). Conditions: Smoke. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: 20.0�C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady). 11:30 Oak @wunder islamabad 11:30 huginn Oak: The current temperature in Islamabad, Pakistan is 29.0�C (3:00 PM PKT on October 31, 2011). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 37%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). 11:32 Amit_Gupta @wunder dehradun 11:33 huginn Amit_Gupta: The current temperature in Dehradun, India is 27.0�C (2:30 PM IST on October 31, 2011). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. Pressure: 29.79 in 1009 hPa. 11:33 Amit_Gupta @wunder New Delhi 11:33 huginn Amit_Gupta: The current temperature in New Delhi, India is 30.0�C (4:30 PM IST on October 31, 2011). Conditions: Smoke. Humidity: 25%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady). 11:34 magnuse @wunder boo 11:34 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 9.0�C (12:20 PM CET on October 31, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady). 12:22 oleonard Hi #koha 12:22 jwagner Hi oleonard 13:43 cait hi all :) 13:44 magnuse guten tag cait 13:44 magnuse how'd it go? 13:44 Oak the presentation 13:44 cait was ok 13:45 cait :) 13:45 cait I am here now: 13:45 cait http://www.flickr.com/photos/stadt_stuttgart/sets/72157627450627069/ 13:45 magnuse yay! 13:45 cait cafe in the new public library 13:45 Oak good 13:45 cait it's very white 13:45 magnuse "Zur Begr��ung gab es Schokolade." yay! 13:46 Oak yes, very white :) 13:55 Oak about running perl Makefile.PL in the git cloned folder. I did that. then chose 'dev', then after answering all the questions, it ended with a message saying, like, make file created I think. then after it when I give 'make' command, it says no such file. make file is not getting created. 13:57 cait hm 13:57 cait magnuse might know :) 13:58 magnuse hm, sorry no, i can't think of anything clever 13:58 Oak :) 13:58 magnuse sure you didn't get an error at the end of running "perl Makefile.PL"? 13:58 oleonard Wow cait, what a beautiful space 13:58 Oak let me run it again. 13:59 cait oleonard: It's been open for around a week now 13:59 cait the library school is right around the corner so I thought I should take a look :) 13:59 magnuse Oak: and the user you are running it as is the one that owns the files and directories 13:59 magnuse ? 14:00 cait going to explore a bit more :) 14:00 cait see you all later! 14:00 Oak :) I was just thinking the same thing as i read my own message. 14:00 Oak the other pc is booting, will check that first thing 14:01 oleonard cait++ # for her meticulous testing of Bug 7113 14:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7113 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Standardize vendor id name in templates and scripts 14:02 magnuse cait++ in general 14:02 Oak cait++ 14:04 Oak magnuse, yes it's owned by my user. one question though, it asks for "Configuration directory:" in the start. should i give it the same as cloned git, or the one it is suggesting? 14:05 Oak it is offering folder /home/user/koha-dev/ as configuration directory. 14:05 magnuse hm, you shouldn't need to tell it anything specific there 14:06 Oak okay 14:06 magnuse just somewhere you have write access 14:06 magnuse is your user called "user"? 14:06 Oak and what if the directory does not exist, and just press enter? 14:06 Oak nope 14:06 Oak it's called silas 14:07 Oak i just said user for easy to read/understand 14:07 magnuse ah, ok 14:07 magnuse it should be ok to just accept the default 14:10 Oak this is what happens: http://pastie.org/2788147 14:12 magnuse hm, it actually says "command not found" for make - sounds like you need to install make or something? 14:12 Oak uh oh 14:13 Oak it *is* a vanilla Debian netinst after all. perhaps i need to install 'make' 14:17 Oak i do actually 14:17 Oak i did 14:18 Oak make is running now 14:18 magnuse yay 14:20 Oak doing make install now :) 14:20 liw Oak, you may in fact want to install the build-essential package to get all the "usual" build tools, and the "perl" package, to get the whole perl standard installation 14:20 Oak oh okay, thank you. will do that now ten. 14:20 magnuse liw++ 14:21 magnuse hiya trea1 14:21 trea1 hi magnuse 14:22 Oak liw++ 14:23 magnuse see ya later #koha 14:31 * Oak installing build-essential 14:41 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7113] Standardize vendor id name in templates and scripts <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7113> 14:49 wizzyrea mornin 14:52 cait hi wizzyrea :) 14:52 cait oleonard++ 14:53 Oak oleonard++ 14:53 cait hi Oak :) 14:53 Oak hello cait :] 14:56 cait wizzyrea: I filled up the list of acq need sign-offs with tet plans ;) 14:57 * cait hides 14:57 cait Oak: were yo uable to finish your install? 14:58 Oak well, now I am about see what needs to be done about virtual hosts in Debian 14:58 nengard Hi #koha - say hi to the new Koha library here in OK 14:58 trea o/ morning 14:59 trea where are vendors stored in the db? 14:59 nengard hang on 14:59 nengard i have that 14:59 oleonard aqbooksellers 14:59 nengard aqbooksellers 14:59 Oak in my Slackware, it's done in /etc/koha/joha-httpd.conf http://pastie.org/2788355 15:01 cait hi trea and nengard 15:01 wizzyrea o/ wave 15:01 cait nengard: I miss your live blogging at this year's kohacon 15:01 wizzyrea *nod* 15:01 nengard cait i told the bywater team to do it for me 15:01 nengard apparently they didn't listen!! 15:01 cait tss 15:01 nengard you should email them 15:01 cait you should shorten their cookie supply 15:01 nengard hehe 15:02 nengard the trip to OK was hard enough - i couldn't do india 15:02 nengard back to training!! 15:02 nengard ttyl 15:02 cait have fun :) 15:13 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7120] After deleting order from order receive page redirect fails <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7120> 15:14 cait oh nice 15:14 cait oleonard++ 15:18 oleonard Okay, this is a new one for me: http://screencast.com/t/tDajb3pOA 15:18 oleonard why are lost and notforloan not editable? 15:18 wizzyrea because changing them there doesn't trigger the lost sequence in fines 15:19 wizzyrea so you're not supposed to edit them there 15:19 wizzyrea you're supposed to do it from the items in the detail 15:19 wizzyrea at least that's why lost is that way 15:20 oleonard Can't change notforloan from moredetail.pl 15:21 wizzyrea mine is editable 15:21 wizzyrea from edit items 15:21 wizzyrea notforloan 15:21 wizzyrea but lost isn't 15:23 oleonard wizzyrea: In master? 15:24 wizzyrea *nod* 15:26 wizzyrea cait what was that bug about searching if the user that created an aqbasket had been deleted? 15:26 wizzyrea I can't find it, i feel like I'm going ma. 15:26 wizzyrea mad* 15:40 oleonard Any luck wizzyrea ? 15:40 wizzyrea bah no 15:43 libsysguy is it normal to have more biblios than items? 15:44 jcamins_away libsysguy: yes, if you have ebooks. 15:44 jcamins_away If you don't have ebooks, no, you probably have a problem. 15:44 libsysguy gotcha 15:44 libsysguy well we do have a lot of ebooks...i just thought out cataloger was creating an item record for them 15:44 * jcamins_away can hear libsysguy thinking "please have ebooks please have ebooks please have ebooks, why doesn't jcamins ever give us good news?" 15:45 libsysguy ^^ 15:45 jcamins_away Hmmm... find an ebook record and check? This is probably not a good sign. 15:46 oleonard You could also have records for other electronic resources like web sites. 15:46 libsysguy yeah ill chekc it out...I thought there should be one biblioitem for each item 15:46 libsysguy but there are about 10K less 15:47 jcamins_away Wait, are you asking about entries in the biblio table against entries in the biblioitem table? If those two aren't the same, you're in trouble. 15:47 libsysguy oh poo 15:49 libsysguy grr and pastebot is down for me 15:49 libsysguy :'( 15:49 libsysguy http://pastebin.com/cze0cV5x 15:50 jcamins_away Oh boy. 15:51 * libsysguy feels like monday has won 15:52 jcamins_away I'm not even sure how that could happen. 15:53 libsysguy good question...maybe some bad data from out old ils? 15:59 jcamins_away libsysguy: how did you import the data? 15:59 libsysguy jcamins_away: what if there are 2 of every biblio 15:59 libsysguy with the import tool (script version 16:00 libsysguy if you multiply the number of biblioitems by 2 you get 6000-ish more than the biblios 16:00 libsysguy which would make since if you had multiple volumes of items 16:01 libsysguy is there anyway to verify that? 16:01 wizzyrea libsysguy: are you having a problem 16:01 wizzyrea ? 16:02 libsysguy apparently 16:02 libsysguy http://pastebin.com/cze0cV5x 16:02 jcamins_away libsysguy: yeah, something went very wrong. The import tool should not create biblios without biblioitems. 16:02 libsysguy i think maybe someting poped up when we were trying to use the matching records 16:03 libsysguy it has been a long time 16:03 * libsysguy is old and forgetful 16:03 libsysguy hehe 16:03 wizzyrea omg, if you are old and forgetful than I am ancient and demented. 16:03 wizzyrea hm. that may be true anyway >.> 16:03 libsysguy ^^ 16:03 libsysguy :p 16:04 wizzyrea well, not the ancient part :) 16:07 reiveune bye 16:08 jcamins_away wizzyrea: didn't you have a problem with matching and extra records in the biblio table? 16:08 wizzyrea well, there was the bug where imports weren't matching because the rule wasn't being applied properly because it had been edited 16:08 wizzyrea but I don't think that is necessarily relevant here 16:09 wizzyrea that wasn't my bug directly, just one I sort of poked at 16:10 jcamins_away No, way back. 16:10 wizzyrea oh my, hm 16:11 libsysguy c'mon wizzyrea where are those acient memories :p 16:11 libsysguy jk jk 16:11 * wizzyrea has every email sent since the dawn of NExpress on Koha 16:11 wizzyrea it's in my computer, pup. 16:11 libsysguy jesus I feel sorry for your mail server 16:12 wizzyrea send your condolences to googlez. 16:14 wizzyrea man idk, I am not finding anything like that 16:16 jcamins_away Hm. 16:16 jcamins_away I could've sworn you reported to me that Sharon was having the wrong records showing up when cataloging, because of extra stuff in your biblio table. 16:16 jcamins_away libsysguy: ask sekjal or druthb if they remember something like that. 16:21 juan_sieira hi henri 16:25 wizzyrea oleonard: I guess others are seeing your prob with not-for-loan, but it's totally working in my test install 16:28 wizzyrea http://screencast.com/t/4zJkh34fa 16:32 libsysguy yo trea you around 16:32 trea i'm here 16:47 wizzyrea oleonard: I just discovered something interesting 16:47 wizzyrea re: your not for loan thinger 16:47 oleonard Oh, not an interesting mushroom or fungus? 16:47 wizzyrea keke no 16:48 wizzyrea if you remove or hide fields from the items framework 16:48 wizzyrea it messes up which field gets the error span 16:48 oleonard Ah, that would be it. 16:49 oleonard So someone was making assumptions about field numbers 16:49 wizzyrea yea, looks that way 16:52 oleonard Good detective work wizzyrea 16:52 bg hey oleonard and wizzyrea 16:52 wizzyrea hey np, that bit was one of NEKLS things, iirc. 16:52 wizzyrea just keeping on top of it. 16:56 wizzyrea hi bg :) 17:00 jcamins_away Good morning (?) India! 17:00 wizzyrea afternoon :) 17:00 wizzyrea it was morning 4am-ish my time 17:00 jcamins_away Oh. 17:00 jcamins_away Good afternoon, India! 17:01 paul_p jcamins_away, not, really morning ! 10 PM here ;-) 17:01 wizzyrea don't ask me how I know that 17:01 Smita Hi this is Smita from Tauranga <nz a koha newbe 17:01 wizzyrea evening then lol 17:01 wizzyrea hi smita 17:01 paul_p hi smita 17:01 Smita I need help 17:01 wizzyrea you're up early :) 17:01 sekjal welcome, Smita 17:01 paul_p hi sekjal : you had a good dinner ? ;-) 17:01 wizzyrea ask anytime :) 17:01 Smita Could not sleep trying to install koha 17:01 wizzyrea oo, up late then. 17:02 Smita No early , it is 5 in the morning here 17:02 paul_p sekjal, do you know there is another similarity between Bywater & BibLibre : brendan & me birthday = january 9th ;-) 17:02 wizzyrea (to me it's early if you got up, late if you stayed up) 17:02 jcamins_away sekjal: libsysguy has more records in his biblio table than in his biblioitems table. I seem to recall encountering that issue while I was at ByWater. Do you remember what caused it, and how to fix it? 17:02 sekjal paul_p: wow, I did not know! 17:03 wizzyrea (it's confusing, either way, it's wee hours) 17:03 wizzyrea :D 17:03 paul_p sekjal, we just discovered that during dinner. 17:03 sekjal jcamins_away: if the biblioitems gets truncated, but the biblioitems table does not, that can happen 17:04 Smita I am stuck trying to create zebra search index, is there a easier way 17:04 jcamins_away sekjal: Thanks. 17:04 wizzyrea ah what kind of error 17:04 sekjal because the cascade is 'delete', which doesn't reset the numbers, while truncate does 17:04 jcamins_away libsysguy: did you truncate your biblioitems table at some point? 17:04 Smita no such command found, though i csn see the rebuild zebra.pl 17:05 wizzyrea oh, are you running perl rebuild_zebra.pl -v -b -r 17:05 jcamins_away Smita: you need to include the path: ./rebuild_zebra.pl (or the appropriate path) 17:05 Smita yes 17:06 wizzyrea what's the exact error? can you copy/paster? 17:06 wizzyrea paste* 17:07 sekjal Smita: what directory are you in? and what command are you typing (exactly)? 17:07 bg paster - noice wizzyrea 17:08 Smita I have installed koha 3.4, but these last few steps to run the indexing are still failing. It continues to say command not found. Also can you please send me examples of cronjobs to set up please? 17:09 sekjal Smita: read misc/cronjobs/crontab.example for an example of what to set up in cron 17:13 Smita Yes, but where do i add thses cronjob, how do i activate them 17:15 Smita new records that I am adding to the database are not being picked up as a result 17:15 jcamins_away Smita: http://www.howtoforge.com/a-short-introduction-to-cron-jobs 17:16 jcamins_away That may help you understand how to use cron. 17:16 Smita 7.2 Fast Index: $ misc/migration-tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -w - this command is failing to run 17:17 jcamins_away Please paste the output you're getting to paste.koha-community.org 17:17 jcamins_away That way we can see why. 17:18 wizzyrea pastebot was down earlier :/ 17:18 jcamins_away wizzyrea: not now. 17:18 wizzyrea well cool 17:22 gmcharlt general note for anybody using Syndetics for cover images - the Bowker/Syndetics data center apparently suffered a power outage due to snow in New Jersey; expected to be back online later today 17:22 wizzyrea ooo, any effects to libraryanywhere? 17:22 jcamins_away Bowker/Syndetics and the entire rest of the state! 17:23 Oak interesting read: http://scienceblogs.com/startswithabang/2011/10/why_we_think_theres_a_multiver.php 17:23 * sekjal is lucky to be in Mumbai, for more than a few reasons! 17:24 gmcharlt wizzyrea: appears that libraryanywhere is not affected 17:24 wizzyrea cool, ty :) 17:24 jwagner The traffic on the Unicorn listserv says Books in Print, Bowkerlink, Syndetic Solutions, Library Thing, RCL, BBAS, and some data services 17:24 slef sekjal? 17:24 wahanui well, sekjal is someone's favorite propeller-head. 17:25 * gmcharlt blinks 17:25 gmcharlt apparently B&T ContentCafe is a valid source of cover images for Library Anywhere 17:25 sekjal hi, slef! 17:26 smita The rest of the koha install is etraight forward, why are last steps of setting up indexes so hard 17:26 jcamins_away smita: we can't tell you unless you give us more details. 17:30 sekjal Smita: what do you see if you type "ls"? 17:30 wizzyrea or "pwd" 17:33 smita As I said, tried to follow the steps - Should I build the zebra indexer manually using this command $ sudo -u <koha> misc/migration_tools/rebuld_zebra.pl -z -b -a 17:33 sekjal Smita: what directory are you currently in? 17:34 smita libclone 17:39 sekjal and that's the directly you cloned from git? (git clone git://git.koha-community.org/koha.git libclone) 17:39 sekjal s/directly/directory/ 17:40 smita yes please 17:45 sekjal remove "sudo -u <koha>", and replace with "perl" 17:45 sekjal so: 17:46 sekjal perl misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -z -b -x 17:46 sekjal for biblios 17:46 sekjal and 17:46 sekjal perl misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -z -a 17:46 sekjal for authorities 17:46 sekjal (on the crontab) 17:46 sekjal for full reindex, replace "-z" with "-r" 17:50 smita great, i will try that. Now how do I set up a cronjob please 18:09 maximep hard to explain how to install and configure koha to someone with 0 unix experience :S 18:10 maximep oh, u need to say something to receive messages from huginn -_- 18:13 sekjal Smita: from command line: crontab -e 18:14 sekjal then type in your commands, like you can see in misc/cronjobs/crontab.example 18:20 maximep he left :/ 18:25 sekjal maximep: ah.. helps if I read the notices, not just the messages ;) 18:32 * jcamins_away predicts the library technology twitterverse gets very active. 18:32 rangi the rdf rda thing? 18:33 jcamins_away Yup. 18:37 oleonard Hi rangi 18:45 trea hey rangi 18:45 * sekjal is ready to pass out now. 18:45 sekjal goodnight, all 18:45 magnuse g'night sekjal 18:50 magnuse @wunder mumbai 18:50 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 28.0�C (11:40 PM IST on October 31, 2011). Conditions: Smoke. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 22.0�C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady). 18:51 magnuse not quite a cool night in thane, then... 18:51 oleonard "Smoke?" 18:51 magnuse sounds scary, but i think it often says that 18:51 jcamins_away @wunder kabul, afghanistan 18:51 huginn jcamins_away: The current temperature in Kabul, Afghanistan is 12.0�C (10:20 PM AFT on October 31, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 3.0�C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady). 18:51 magnuse ooh, nice temp! 18:52 wizzyrea @wunder 669=047 18:52 huginn wizzyrea: The current temperature in Barrio Hoconuco Alto, San German, Puerto Rico is 23.0�C (2:50 PM AST on October 31, 2011). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 22.0�C. Pressure: 30.03 in 1016.8 hPa (Steady). 18:52 wizzyrea uh, oh kay 18:52 wizzyrea @wunder 66047 18:52 jcamins_away Partly cloudy? Huh. In 2007 around this time, I probably would have described the weather as "smoke," too. 18:52 magnuse huh? 18:52 huginn wizzyrea: The current temperature in Lawrence Live-Courtesy of the Khoury's, Lawrence, Kansas is 20.4�C (1:50 PM CDT on October 31, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 30%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Pressure: 30.03 in 1016.8 hPa (Falling). 18:52 wizzyrea hm warmer than it feels 18:52 druthb @wunder mumbai 18:52 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 28.0�C (11:40 PM IST on October 31, 2011). Conditions: Smoke. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 22.0�C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady). 18:53 druthb "Conditions: Smoke" is a constant. 18:53 magnuse wow 24, i thought the us was having a bout of winter - guess it's a big coutry... 18:53 magnuse good evening druthb and cait 18:53 wizzyrea *nod* it's cold on the east coast. 18:53 druthb hi, cait! 18:53 wizzyrea @wunder Hartford, CT 18:53 huginn wizzyrea: The current temperature in APRSWXNET Hartford CT US, Newington, Connecticut is 12.8�C (2:17 PM EDT on October 31, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 5.0�C. Pressure: 30.36 in 1028.0 hPa. 18:53 wizzyrea but not that cold. 18:54 jcamins_away @wunder 11375 18:54 magnuse nope 18:54 huginn jcamins_away: The current temperature in Middle Village, Queens, New York is 11.7�C (2:51 PM EDT on October 31, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 4.0�C. Pressure: 30.32 in 1026.6 hPa (Falling). 18:54 wizzyrea @wunder Boston, MA 18:54 huginn wizzyrea: The current temperature in Winthrop Beach, Winthrop, Massachusetts is 10.3�C (2:52 PM EDT on October 31, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 3.0�C. Pressure: 30.37 in 1028.3 hPa (Steady). 18:54 wizzyrea jcamins_away: did you get snow? 18:55 magnuse @wunder wellington 18:55 huginn magnuse: Error: No such location could be found. 18:55 magnuse @wunder wellington, nz 18:55 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 15.0�C (7:00 AM NZDT on November 01, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Falling). 19:00 Danielle o/ 19:00 jcamins_away wizzyrea: very little. My family was without power for most of the weekend, though, and reported 5-7 inches. 19:01 wizzyrea oof 19:02 * Danielle has friends in northern CT still without power. 19:08 magnuse ouch 19:14 * cait waves 19:18 trea hi ciat 19:18 trea cait* 19:18 cait yes? 19:19 druthb cait? 19:19 wahanui That's Ms. Cait to you! 19:19 druthb hee hee. 19:19 druthb talljoy? 19:19 wahanui I CRUNCH DATA 19:19 druthb druthb? 19:19 wahanui you are a travelin' woman. 19:21 druthb1 @quote get 102 19:21 huginn druthb1: Quote #102: "<druthb> harrrumph!" (added by gmcharlt at 07:42 PM, November 11, 2010) 19:21 druthb1 druthb? 19:21 wahanui Don't ask. 19:21 druthb1 heh 19:21 druthb1 Brooke? 19:21 wahanui I'M TAKING THE PISS OUT OF 'EM. 19:21 druthb1 hehehe 19:24 jcamins_away druthb1? 19:25 wizzyrea druthb 19:25 wizzyrea druthb? 19:25 wahanui Don't ask. 19:25 wizzyrea pft 19:26 druthb1 hee hee 19:28 rangi wizzyrea? 19:28 wahanui I LIKE BAO or all about the resluts 19:28 wizzyrea keke 19:42 rangi just had a chat with karen coyle 19:44 rangi she was much excited with the export/import of frameworls 19:44 wizzyrea it's pretty sweeet 19:45 wizzyrea though I think we need some instructions/guidelines about how to go about editing your CSV so it's re-importable, I've never gotten that thing to work 19:45 wizzyrea but a native export/import with no modifications works fine 19:45 wizzyrea (I assumed I was doing it wrong) 19:57 rangi yep 19:58 cait wizzyrea: still have ot played with it.. hm I should 19:58 libsysguy rangi you still around? 19:59 rangi semi 19:59 rangi im on a stand at conference 19:59 rangi so i come and go 20:00 libsysguy I encountered a unique situation where my biblios table has (roughly) double the tuples of my biblioitems table...I think there are dupes in the biblio table...any way you know to verify? 20:05 rhcl wizzyrea: u planning on attending KohaCon12 20:05 rhcl ? 20:05 libsysguy where is KohaCon12? 20:05 wizzyrea it's improbable, but possible 20:05 libsysguy sorry to butt in 20:06 wizzyrea Edinburgh Scotland 20:06 libsysguy oh cool 20:06 ron416 hi all 20:06 * libsysguy wants to go :) 20:07 rangi hmm select count(distinct(title)) from biblio; 20:07 rangi try that 20:07 rhcl I'm looking for places to go fishing 20:07 libsysguy The Swede wants to go too :p 20:07 libsysguy rangi I tried that one...i got 350K records 20:07 libsysguy so a little off 20:07 libsysguy i thought about doing a diff of what is not in biblioitems 20:07 rangi yep 20:08 ron416 when i enter 'sudo -u myusername zebrasrv -f /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml 20:08 ron416 it says 'I/O warning: failed to load external entity "/etc/koha/koha-conf.xml" 20:09 ron416 someone pliz help me 20:09 cait libsysguy: meeting in scotland then:) 20:09 libsysguy you probaby don't have the conf file exported 20:09 rangi select count(*) from biblio where biblionumber not in (select biblionumber from biblioitems) 20:09 ron416 can you please tell me how to do that? 20:10 ron416 i am a first timer 20:10 libsysguy $ export KOHA_CONF=/your/install/dir/etc/koha-conf.xml 20:10 libsysguy did you do a prod install or dev? 20:10 ron416 i did standard 20:11 libsysguy then I think it is in /etc/koha/ 20:11 wahanui Hmm. No matches for that, libsysguy. 20:11 libsysguy but its been awhile since i've done a standard install 20:11 ron416 i chose standard since i am a first timer 20:12 libsysguy I did too 20:12 libsysguy as a first time install 20:12 ron416 yeah... 20:12 ron416 i have the installation manual with me 20:12 ron416 i followed each and every step 20:12 ron416 even the export bit 20:12 libsysguy oh? 20:12 libsysguy hmm 20:12 ron416 but i dont know what the problem is 20:13 libsysguy what exactly did you type for the export? 20:13 cait oh 20:13 cait closed wrong window 20:13 cait wanted to ask which installation manual and which verison of koha and which os :) 20:13 ron416 export KOHA_CONF=/etc/koha/koha-conf.xml 20:13 libsysguy eek cait 20:13 ron416 ver 3.4 20:13 cait eek? 20:13 * cait looks around 20:14 libsysguy like scared that you went away cait :) 20:14 cait ron416: are you doing a test install? you might want to use 3.6 then :) 20:15 libsysguy maybe it is a permissions thing 20:15 libsysguy have you looked at who owns that dir 20:15 wizzyrea or you exported as the wrong user 20:16 ron416 i mean when i enter that command, nothing happens. it just goes to the next line 20:16 trea ron416 what do you get when you type echo $KOHA_CONF 20:17 ron416 let me check now 20:17 libsysguy brb sorry ron416 20:18 ron416 it says /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml 20:18 magnuse ron416: if "sudo -u myusername zebrasrv -f /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml" results in "I/O warning: failed to load external entity "/etc/koha/koha-conf.xml" it sounds like /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml doesn't exist 20:18 ron416 yeah thats what i am thinking 20:19 ron416 but when i enter the export command 20:19 ron416 it doesnt do anything 20:19 cait it never gives feedback 20:19 cait the export command 20:19 magnuse it's not supposed to 20:19 cait it just... works or not 20:19 ron416 it just goes to the next line 20:19 magnuse try "ls /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml" 20:19 ron416 let me try 20:21 ron416 it says cannot access /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml: No such file or directory 20:21 magnuse that's a problem... 20:22 magnuse sorry gotta run, see y'all tomorrow! 20:22 ron416 libsysguy...what do you think 20:24 rachel hi pepl. SQL ? - will all biblios w/o items be deleted with: DELETE biblio.biblionumber, biblio.title FROM biblio LEFT JOIN items on biblio.biblionumber = items.biblionumber WHERE items.itemnumber is NULL 20:26 cait ron416: you have to find the file :) 20:26 cait ron416: and use the right path for the export 20:26 * libsysguy is about to delete half of his biblios table *crosses fingers* 20:27 wizzyrea you took a backup right 20:27 libsysguy yes of course :) 20:27 libsysguy do I have the go ahead wizzyrea 20:27 ron416 can somebody tell me how to find that file 20:28 wizzyrea ron416: sudo updatedb 20:28 wizzyrea <wait> 20:28 cait I am not sure where standard puts it 20:28 wizzyrea locate koha-conf.xml 20:28 libsysguy <holding> 20:28 wizzyrea lol, not you - you're grown, if you think it's right then you should do it :P 20:28 wizzyrea as long as you have a way out 20:29 libsysguy well there is a back door to run from the librarians :p 20:29 wizzyrea lol, ok 20:29 wizzyrea probably best to wait until off hours 20:29 wizzyrea :P 20:30 trea ron416 what do you get when you run locate koha-conf.xml 20:30 libsysguy haha well its too late 234100 records are now gone 20:30 * wizzyrea can't help it... holds her breath 20:31 * libsysguy waiting for calls 20:32 * chris_n thinks he hears the mob with pitch forks coming 20:32 cait ok, time to play sing star with one of my best friends 20:32 cait will be back :) 20:32 Danielle Enjoy 20:33 cait i will :) 20:33 ron416 trea when i typed that 3 lines were displayed 20:33 wizzyrea they were? 20:34 wizzyrea rather, ron416: what were they 20:35 ron416 1st.../etc/koha123/koha-conf.xml 20:36 ron416 2nd.../home/roneel/koha/blib/KOHA_CONF_DIR/koha-conf.xml 20:36 ron416 3rd.../home/roneel/koha/etc/koha-conf.xml 20:36 ron416 those were the 3 20:36 wizzyrea ok, that's why your export didn't work 20:37 wizzyrea you just did /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml 20:37 ron416 what should i do 20:37 ron416 i am so confused 20:37 wizzyrea you needed to have the path for /etc/koha123/koha-conf.xml 20:37 wizzyrea you were telling the system to look in the wrong place for the config file 20:38 wizzyrea export KOHA_CONF=/etc/koha123/koha-conf.xml 20:39 ron416 right i entered that 20:39 ron416 should i also enter export PERL5LIB=/usr/share/koha/lib 20:40 wizzyrea dunno, does /usr/share/koha exist? 20:40 wizzyrea ls /usr/share/koha 20:41 ron416 cannot access etc 20:41 ron416 which means it doesnt exist 20:41 wizzyrea now your'e gettin it :) 20:42 wizzyrea i'm just guessing, but ls /usr/share/koha123 20:42 wizzyrea does that exist? 20:42 ron416 let me check 20:42 ron416 no 20:42 ron416 what to do now 20:44 wizzyrea well you need to find where your koha/lib directory is 20:44 wizzyrea what OS are you running? 20:44 wizzyrea (shouldn't matter, in theory) 20:44 ron416 debian 20:45 wizzyrea ls /usr/share 20:45 wizzyrea there will be lots of stuff, but is there a koha? 20:45 wizzyrea or anything koha-like 20:46 ron416 after git-core i dont see anything in K 20:49 wizzyrea :/ sounds like somtihng non-standard happened 20:49 ron416 i have checked thoroughly but the word koha doesnt exist anywhere 20:49 ron416 sorry i made a mistake 20:50 ron416 A - Z are all mentioned 20:50 ron416 not uptill git-core as i said earlier on 20:50 ron416 but koha isnt mentioned anywhere 20:50 wizzyrea all good, probably you want to go back to whre you did your perl makefile.PL, make test, make install 20:51 wizzyrea you won't have to do every step, but doing that bit and accepting the defaults may bring you better results along the way 20:51 ron416 but now when i enter perl Makefile.Pl 20:52 ron416 it says Can't open perl script "Makefile.pl": No such file or directory 20:52 wizzyrea right, because you're not in the directory where that file is located 20:52 ron416 omg 20:52 ron416 now how will i find that directory 21:30 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7122] Adding divs to opac-messaging.tt to aid OPAC css styling <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7122> 21:31 magnuse ron416 might have had more luck with perl Makefile.PL, not perl Makefile.Pl... 21:32 * magnuse is really gone now... 21:42 libsysguy poor ron416 22:45 cait hi #koha :)