Time Nick Message
22:05 wizzyrea *saved in my tabs for tomorrow*
22:03 wizzyrea yea that's what I thought
22:03 eythian needs some updating, really. For 3.6 you don't have to worry about translations, just stick it in the english one and some magic happens somewhere.
22:02 wizzyrea cool thanks eythian
22:02 eythian http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/System_Preferences
22:02 wizzyrea shepherd's pie, good idea
22:02 eythian wizzyrea: there is a wiki page about writing sysprefs
22:02 libsysguy mashed potatoes
22:02 wizzyrea what should I have for dinner?
22:02 wizzyrea hoo boy look at the time >.>
22:01 wizzyrea i'm pondering just poking at it until I figure it out :P
22:01 wizzyrea oh it's all good
22:01 libsysguy hmm sorry wizzyrea but im not the expert in that area :-\
22:00 wizzyrea my assumption was that if it can be codified, it could be done. maybe that's wrong.
22:00 wizzyrea to not see a message about renewals
22:00 wizzyrea right now it's a kludgy workaround of setting the threshold super high and praying.
21:59 wizzyrea if OpacRenewalAllowed is off, nothing should ever show ever about renewals
21:59 libsysguy *n00b question*
21:59 libsysguy can you set dependent behaviors in sysprefs?
21:59 wizzyrea as in, anything relating to renewals in the opac
21:59 libsysguy hmm
21:58 wizzyrea the renewal_blocked_fines really ought to be dependent on OpacRenewalAllowed
21:58 wizzyrea i'm looking at the renewal sysprefs
21:58 wizzyrea urf
21:58 libsysguy because my patch got rejected :'(
21:58 libsysguy apparently that procedure changed since i last did it
21:57 wizzyrea i has a curious
21:57 wizzyrea is there a wiki on making and using sysprefs?
21:57 wizzyrea sincerely
21:56 wizzyrea i love you, schema.koha-community.org
21:34 libsysguy sweet thanks rangi…i swear one day ill get the tables down pat
21:34 rangi http://schema.koha-community.org/tables/virtualshelfcontents.html
21:34 rangi and
21:34 rangi http://schema.koha-community.org/tables/virtualshelves.html
21:33 libsysguy what table do list get stored in?
21:29 libsysguy hey #Koha
20:48 ibeardslee http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smarties ?
20:47 ibeardslee mmmm smarties
20:47 cait smarties?
20:47 cait ?
20:45 rangi heh
20:45 wizzyrea nm lol
20:45 wizzyrea ok smarties
20:30 nengard thanks wizzyrea
20:21 wizzyrea but many times that has to do with index lag
20:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2708 major, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Checked out items saying available
20:21 wizzyrea bug 2708
20:18 cait oleonard: I have no idea
20:16 nengard hey all - i'm looking for the bug report about the staff client results saying things are available even when they're not
20:16 * wizzyrea bets on arbitrary
20:16 oleonard I know...and why the difference? Some arbitrary choice in the past?
20:16 cait and no... that's no fun
20:15 cait oleonard: marc21 links to copyrightdate
20:15 cait oleonard: I think it does for unimarc
20:15 huginn cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 7.0�C (10:00 PM CEST on October 27, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Pressure: 30.11 in 1019 hPa (Rising).
20:15 cait @wunder Konstanz
20:10 * oleonard just discovered list sorting by year doesn't work because it tries to sort by biblioitems.publicationyear which is empty because default Koha to MARC mapping doesn't map it to anything
20:10 rangi since marc will never die and our grandchildren will still be dealing with this crap
20:10 rangi there really is no reason for the biblio/biblioitems split anymore,it should go away
20:09 rangi yup
20:09 * oleonard is sure he's been told this before
20:09 rangi stupid marc
20:09 rangi yeah MARC broke all that stuff
20:09 oleonard So copyright date was like "original copyright date" ?
20:09 wizzyrea much more like frbr
20:08 cait oh
20:08 rangi copyright date didnt change, the publication one did
20:08 rangi you had one biblio many biblioitems
20:08 rangi cos in the olden days
20:08 oleonard Why do we have biblio.copyrightdate and biblioitems.publicationyear?
19:33 oleonard Bugs are scaring out bugs
19:33 * oleonard is finding that the language-chooser in the staff client doesn't reflect the current language choice
19:29 rangi oleonard: we have to find where the \\ are being added, is pootle doing it, or is the translation tools doing it
19:27 maximep yeah that was jsut a workaround for a real bug
19:27 oleonard So switching from one quote to another doesn't fix the problem. Can we fix the double-\ problem?
19:14 maximep pretty sure " is used in most places
19:14 cait hm quoting I mean
19:14 cait but consistency would be nice
19:14 cait both ways it's annoying sometimes
19:14 cait and I can't use those
19:14 cait oleonard: it does, the other problem is, that normally I would use "" for quiting things in German
19:13 maximep oleonard: yes
19:12 rangi oleonard: but id have to try to be sure
19:12 cait you can add as suggestion, merge and overwrite I think - 3 options
19:12 rangi oleonard: i think it does
19:12 ebegin cait, thanks. it seems that he is away atm
19:12 oleonard maximep: I see. Does that work with the translation tool?
19:11 cait ebegin: you can overwrite but need a permission for that - ask fredericd
19:11 maximep _("Are you sure you want to renew this patron's registration?")
19:10 maximep instead of _('Are you sure you want to renew this patron\'s registration?')
19:10 oleonard Maybe I misunderstand you, but wouldn't that break up the string and make translation more difficult?
19:10 maximep french has way more ' than english, so always fixing those
19:10 maximep huh, why wouldn't it
19:09 oleonard maximep: That might work for \t, but not for apostrophes in english sentences
19:09 maximep spent the last 3 hours fixing translation bugs :/
19:07 maximep the en template should really just put the string in " " instead of escaping
19:06 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7109 major, P5, ---, frederic, NEW , Error in en-GB and en-NZ templates causes JavaScript errors
19:06 oleonard Bug 7109, for what it's worth. Sounds like it's really a template-processing bug that needs a more comprehensive fix.
19:06 ebegin Speaking of pootle, is there a way to replace a complete file with the one I'm uploading ?
19:06 cait or better, make it ".... ' "
19:05 cait that's the reason I removed all \n from the translations
19:05 cait best is to edit the file directly
19:05 cait it will always make them wrong
19:05 cait pootle doesn't like those
19:04 maximep just saw the same in fr-FR. Had \\t instead of \t
19:00 oleonard File a bug?
19:00 rangi ill take a look after the next 3 conferences :)
18:59 rangi sounds like. po file is wrong
18:59 rangi so doesn't get them
18:59 rangi right and all the other languages dont have retarded 's
18:59 oleonard _('Are you sure you want to renew this member\'s registration?')
18:59 oleonard should be
18:59 rangi ah thats possible
18:58 oleonard _('Are you sure you want to renew this member\\'s registration?')
18:58 oleonard Looks like escaping backslashes in JavaScript are getting escaped again
18:58 rangi oh?
18:58 oleonard I've discovered a problem in the en-GB and en-NZ translations
18:57 rangi oh the problems we have
18:57 rangi "pupils punished for going to parade"
18:57 rangi lead news item today
18:56 rangi lol
18:54 rangi ahh cool
18:54 rangi its a full on job watching his hands
18:54 rangi so laurel will be happy when it comes out
18:54 bg we're still holding up at nengard house
18:53 bg rangi: flight is in 5 hours
18:52 wizzyrea hehe
18:52 rangi and keeps trying to get stuff out of his backpack
18:52 rangi the only problem now is he thinks he is dora
18:51 rangi but I think he will be a lot happier with less interrupted sleep
18:51 rangi nothing seems to worry him much
18:51 rangi yep
18:50 wizzyrea he looks cheery enough in that pic :)
18:50 wizzyrea *nod*
18:50 rangi lucky he's a tough lil bugger
18:49 trea ya :-/
18:49 wizzyrea oh zounds!
18:49 rangi on the 16th
18:49 rangi tonsils and adanoids coming out
18:49 rangi yeah
18:49 rangi then they should know whats going on
18:49 wizzyrea (well, reflux sucks so, still poor guy about that bit)
18:49 rangi comes out in 5 hours
18:48 rangi :)
18:48 wizzyrea awwww
18:48 rangi its his packpack
18:48 rangi he doesn't mind
18:48 rangi measuring ph levels
18:48 wizzyrea poor lil guy
18:48 wizzyrea OH
18:48 rangi lil man has reflux still, so he has a computer attached to him
18:48 wizzyrea lol what is he doing?
18:47 rangi http://m.flickr.com/#/photos/ranginui/6285847392/
18:44 rangi :)
18:44 wizzyrea but I'm happy it's back up
18:44 * wizzyrea grumbles
18:43 wizzyrea even though they supposedly have 3 backbone providers?
18:43 rangi the market .... its full of shit
18:43 rangi I love how corporates make the internet less robust
18:42 wizzyrea guess they'll be looking at their redundancy strategies :P
18:42 rangi ouch
18:42 rangi :)
18:42 wizzyrea I guess the backbone for our local internet provider went completely down
18:42 rangi jcamins: boiled plants are ok
18:42 wizzyrea lordie!
18:42 cait hi wizzyrea :)
18:42 cait only had to show it and they even talked german with me :)
18:41 wizzyrea I do!
18:41 wizzyrea do I really have internet?
18:41 cait they let my chocolate in too :)
18:41 wizzyrea oh, is this real
18:41 jcamins :)
18:41 jcamins Drinks made of plants are good?
18:40 rangi its just food/plants we dont let in
18:40 rangi no drama either way
18:40 rangi yep I took some with me, brought some back
18:39 oleonard Thank goodness beer can go through customs
18:37 rangi got given it as a gift at the conference last week
18:36 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7108] opaclanguagesdisplay: Lists of "Similar" languages break display across multiple lines <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7108>
18:36 rangi ebegin: I have some beer from quebec in my fridge
18:36 huginn ebegin: The current temperature in Montreal / Dorval International, Que, Quebec is 4.0�C (2:00 PM EDT on October 27, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 36%. Dew Point: -5.0�C. Pressure: 29.84 in 1010 hPa (Falling).
18:36 ebegin @wunder montreal, canada
18:35 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 11.0�C (7:00 AM NZDT on October 28, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Steady).
18:35 rangi @wunder wellington nz
18:35 rangi bg: whens the flight?
18:35 rangi heya ebegin
18:35 bg heya ebegin
18:34 ebegin hello all! Long time no talk, see, etc ;)
18:34 bg morning dude
18:34 rangi morning
17:46 huginn Oak: The operation succeeded.
17:46 Oak @later tell Brooke hi, watch "Frequently Asked Questions About Time Travel" www.imdb.com/title/tt0910554/ very good
17:44 * oleonard remembers the problems we had with reports output right after the T:T switch
17:44 * oleonard wonders what version NCARLibrary is on
17:39 NCARLibrary thanks
17:39 NCARLibrary time for lunch. i'll shoot Galen an email.
17:39 NCARLibrary yeah, i could work around with a report
17:39 cait my database here is almost empty, so I get no results at all :(
17:38 cait perhaps you can find a good report to do that in the reports library?
17:38 NCARLibrary might be some issue with my local instance that Galen needs to tweak, I suppose.
17:38 NCARLibrary i'm just trying to get circ stats for various patron categories at various shelving locations
17:38 cait hm
17:37 NCARLibrary and shelving loc as column
17:37 NCARLibrary i selected patron category for row
17:37 cait what are you trying to search for?
17:37 NCARLibrary i get all my totals, along bottom and down the right side
17:36 cait I think you have to select one field for column and one for row
17:36 cait hm
17:35 NCARLibrary yes, the wizard
17:35 cait NCARLibrary: using the statistic wizard?
17:26 NCARLibrary Sorry for the delayed question...people just walk right up to you and start talking when you work at a library.
17:22 NCARLibrary Could it be a bug? Or just user error?
17:17 NCARLibrary I get no data in the body of the results...only totals.
17:16 NCARLibrary Circ Statistics...
17:10 Oak true story
16:57 oleonard We won't know until you ask
16:55 NCARLibrary Might anyone be interested in hearing my Stats question?
16:55 NCARLibrary Hey there people!
16:34 cait :)
16:34 cait hi oleonard
16:34 oleonard Hi cait
16:14 trea o/
16:10 * Oak waves
16:09 nengard :)
16:05 oleonard A misleading bug title becomes a misleading release notes item.
16:04 nengard an existing permission
16:04 nengard so it's not a new permission
16:04 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6898 major, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , circulation librarians can't run overdues without reports permissions
16:03 oleonard Not a fix for Bug 6898 as you probably hoped
16:03 huginn 04Bug 5876: enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED FIXED, New permission for overdues report
16:03 oleonard nengard: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5876
15:57 nengard releast notes question for anyone who can answer - it says "New permission for overdues report" - but where is it?
15:49 jcamins I will take a look if I can.
15:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7106 major, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW , analytics links broken
15:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7107 major, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , 'used in' column on analytics not populating
15:48 nengard bug 7107 and bug 7106
15:48 nengard jcamins - two bugs reported related to what I saw in analytics tests - it might be just me, but hopefully someone can figure them out
15:24 reiveune1 bye
15:23 cait hi magnus_afk :)
15:22 huginn magnus_afk: rangi was last seen in #koha 12 hours, 17 minutes, and 38 seconds ago: <rangi> not yet, i emailed dont have a reply yet, will chase up in the morning with a phone call
15:22 magnus_afk @seen rangi
15:21 magnus_afk kia ora cait
15:21 libsysguy hi cait :)
15:21 cait hi rhcl, libsysguy and nengard :)
15:21 nengard hi cait
15:21 nengard no prob
15:20 rhcl hi cait
15:20 libsysguy thanks nengard++
15:20 cait hi koha
15:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6961 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , runtime parameter for fund codes
15:19 nengard bug 6961
15:19 libsysguy gotcha
15:19 nengard i think i have a bug for it
15:19 libsysguy oh
15:19 nengard funds is not a runtime parameter
15:19 nengard not possible ?
15:19 libsysguy how would i format the <<>> bit
15:19 libsysguy nengard: if i wanted to doa dropdown in a report to see all the available funds
15:18 nengard no i did not
15:18 libsysguy nengard did you see my question about the reports?
15:17 jcamins Wow, she can go to India without going to the airport? Lucky!
15:17 libsysguy ohh fun…is there dip and chips?
15:17 libsysguy ok cool…well if she feels up to it I have a data question for her…otherwise it can wait
15:16 nengard gonna have a mini bywater gathering at my house
15:16 nengard bg is here -druthb, sekjal and JesseM are on their way :)
15:16 nengard India
15:16 nengard she'll be around in a few hours for a bit before going to the airport or Inda
15:16 libsysguy oh really?
15:16 nengard libsysguy, drthb is on her way to my house actually
15:14 rhcl They chat on freenode at #opencores
15:14 rhcl A mildly interesting project to follow: http://orsoc.se/openrisc1200-platform-2/
15:11 libsysguy like a new category
15:11 libsysguy so if i created a new one…it wouldn't work?
15:10 wizzyrea afk
15:10 wizzyrea possibly in the online help too
15:10 wizzyrea which ones
15:10 wizzyrea it's in the manual
15:10 wizzyrea but I think only itype, ccode work
15:09 wizzyrea administration -> Authorized Values
15:09 libsysguy is there a way to see the authorized values?
15:09 wizzyrea and only some of them work, iirc
15:09 wizzyrea the drop downs are dependent on authorized values
15:08 libsysguy how would i format the <<>> bit
15:08 libsysguy if i wanted to doa dropdown in a report to see all the available funds
15:08 libsysguy report question
15:02 wizzyrea meh
15:01 rhcl_away Well, that's why she missed her plane then.
14:58 wizzyrea that
14:58 oleonard wizzyrea's on a 1-hour delay rhcl_away.
14:57 rhcl_away ?
14:52 wizzyrea i had lots of dreams last year about missing my plane to NZ
14:51 jcamins Danielle_: more like "explain to dummy over there what he's doing wrong." ;)
14:50 * chris_n launches another explanatory missive, but feels the issue is becoming over-complicated :-(
14:50 Danielle_ Forensic Accountant time? ;)
14:49 * jcamins tries to figure out how much equity he has in his closely-held LLC, and fails utterly.
14:48 Danielle_ Or in the circle of trust. >.>
14:47 magnus_afk hehe
14:47 libsysguy jcamins has druthb bugged
14:47 magnus_afk that was quick
14:47 libsysguy dang it jcamins
14:46 * jcamins wins.
14:46 jcamins libsysguy: Newark area. :P
14:46 magnus_afk heh
14:46 libsysguy we can all play where in the world is druthb
14:46 libsysguy ohhh
14:45 magnus_afk she's in/on her way to india - hard to tell...
14:45 libsysguy hey does anybody know when druthb will be back around?
14:11 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7105] Bad sql request in GetSubscriptions <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7105>
13:47 huginn jcamins: The operation succeeded.
13:47 jcamins @later tell druthb The front page of your blog didn't update. Don't forget to rsync the whole website, and not just the one new post.
13:47 * oleonard hasn't traveled internationally for about 10 years, but still has anxiety dreams about not being ready for his flight
13:44 * jcamins pushes his master plan to nominate sekjal, bg, and druthb for a whole bunch of jobs back by one day. ;)
13:43 sekjal thankfully, no. then I'd be REALLY behind
13:43 jcamins Whoops.
13:43 jcamins sekjal: oh, Shari and I thought you were leaving at 8:30 yesterday.
13:42 sekjal jcamins: our flight leaves at 8:30 tonight
13:38 jcamins Shouldn't he be over Europe now?
13:38 jcamins Errr... isn't it a bit late for bg to be hanging around?
13:36 nengard will try again after i get bg coffee :)
13:36 nengard grrr
13:36 jcamins (though I can't recreate the problem)
13:35 jcamins Where if you start out with one, and it switches to the other, it still fails to populate the 773$0 and 773$9.
13:35 jcamins I'm guessing the problem is Javascript.
13:34 nengard so let me fix
13:34 nengard but it is possible i don't have 773 in that one
13:34 nengard jcamins but when i edited it it changed to default framework
13:34 jcamins That's one addition we need to the manual: whatever framework you use for analytics *must* have 773$9 and 773$0 defined.
13:34 * chris_n now knows where all of the spam is coming from ;-)
13:33 jcamins Your fast add framework doesn't have 773$0 and 773$9.
13:33 magnuse lol
13:32 jcamins "KOHA!" help, no less. :)
13:32 nengard i started with the fast add framework and then when i did the link it changed the framework to default
13:32 chris_n LOL
13:32 chris_n jcamins: perhaps they grab names, etc. from the home page of the website or some such
13:32 * oleonard writes "contact chris_n for KOHA! help" in every public restroom
13:32 jcamins What framework are you using?
13:32 jcamins There shouldn't be.
13:32 jcamins Wait... I have a guess.
13:32 nengard is there another cron i need?
13:32 jcamins nengard: once I reindexed, it worked properly.
13:32 nengard let me go rebuild the zebra and try one more time
13:32 nengard but it's not filled in on anything for me
13:31 nengard yes
13:31 nengard jcamins I don't see used in 1 analytics ? is ther esomething i need to do to my record to make that happen? some magic?
13:31 jcamins nengard: you know that the "Used in" column is filled in only for the host record, right?
13:31 jcamins chris_n: why do people even come up with the idea of contacting you directly?
13:27 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6818] acquisitions basket groups could use some design work <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6818>
13:27 jcamins (that was not a rhetorical question, I'm hoping I mentioned it)
13:26 jcamins What was I doing on this VM?
13:26 jcamins It just says things like "1 analytics" though. No titles.
13:25 jcamins "Used in" is working for me.
13:25 * chris_n wonders what is is about "I don't provide individualized support" that some folks don't seem to understand :P
13:25 jcamins I wonder why I did that.
13:22 jcamins Oh, cron's disabled.
13:22 jcamins Not seeing the record I just created, either...
13:21 jcamins Hm. I'm not seeing the Used in.
13:21 * jcamins is waiting for Zebra to reindex.
13:20 nengard two more pushes: http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=kohadocs.git;a=summary
13:20 jcamins (retrospective problem, not going forward, once they update to 3.6)
13:20 nengard oh! good stuff
13:20 jcamins That is a problem only for MDAH.
13:20 jcamins nengard: additional change: I fixed the issue with the 773 indicator.
13:17 jcamins We're still on 3.6 for Master? Huh. Hadn't realized that.
13:16 jcamins Checking out master now.
13:15 nengard keep in mind i might be missing a step
13:14 nengard right
13:14 jcamins But used in still isn't working for you?
13:14 nengard but not sure about the used in column
13:14 jcamins Good!
13:14 nengard thanks for finding the typo
13:14 nengard found the delink!!
13:14 magnuse see you fabio_t
13:14 jcamins One correction- "catalog" not "catlaog". ;)
13:14 fabio_t see you, I have to leave
13:13 fabio_t thank you guys - I love Koha, and the whole community is great
13:13 nengard for what i wrote so far
13:12 nengard http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=kohadocs.git;a=commitdiff;h=922e8401d3868e0c64d72b87d780d10b1349e908
13:12 jcamins Lemme check on Master.
13:12 nengard are these bugs or am i missing a step?
13:12 nengard also the used in column never fills in for me
13:12 nengard but i can't find it
13:12 nengard and linda mentioned there is a delink option
13:12 nengard i'm writing the analytics part of the manual
13:11 nengard easy peasy :)
13:11 jcamins nengard: how can I help?
13:11 nengard hehe
13:11 jcamins nengard: uh-oh.
13:11 jcamins fabio_t: here's what I'd recommend: use packages, but have a git install on a development system for development. If you make any changes you need for production, roll your own package, and use that.
13:11 nengard jcamins!! need your help :)
13:10 fabio_t right magnuse, thanks
13:10 magnuse fabio_t++
13:09 fabio_t if I will develop something, moreover, i'd be happy to share with the community
13:09 * magnuse does it too
13:09 jcamins One warning about building your own packages, though: some people have trouble with it.
13:09 magnuse debian/build-git-snapshot makes it quite easy to make packages
13:09 * jcamins does that
13:09 magnuse you can also build your own packages - that way you can run off packages but also incorporate patches
13:08 jcamins Did I just make up the term "hot-patching"? It sounded good in my head, but doesn't look quite right when written.
13:08 fabio_t thank you jcamins
13:08 jcamins fabio_t: as a general rule, though, I'd recommend against hot-patching your production system anyway.
13:07 jcamins_away fabio_t: but packages are *much* easier to use.
13:07 jcamins_away fabio_t: yes, you need to use git if you are doing any development.
13:05 magnuse anyone else got an opinion on that?
13:05 magnuse hm, not 100% sure about the corrdct answer to that one - it certainly makes it easier, i think
13:04 fabio_t Do i need Git to apply local patches too?
13:04 magnuse to run "straight koha" the packages are handy
13:03 magnuse you only need git if you are going to do development, or apply patches yourself
13:03 fabio_t (packages)
13:03 fabio_t that would be easier for us.
13:03 fabio_t I'm not that familiar with Git
13:02 fabio_t thank you magnuse
13:02 fabio_t hi there oleonard
13:02 magnuse fabio_t: i'd say no, go with the packages
13:01 fabio_t I noticed that latest Koha versions offer .deb packages too. Is there any reason to prefer Git installation and upgrade over the .deb packaging ones for a production server (in a non-developer point of view)?
13:01 oleonard Hi fabio_t
12:57 fabio_t Hi people! :)
12:54 magnuse should be a long term goal for the whole intranet
12:53 magnuse lol
12:52 oleonard ^^ That's what acquisitions is going to look like when cait and I get done with it ;)
12:52 magnuse tee hee
12:52 oleonard Could be worse: http://www.nasm.si.edu/imageDetail.cfm?imageID=1654
12:50 magnuse the gui leaves something to be desired, then?
12:50 magnuse hehe
12:50 oleonard The kind of phone where I have to read the instructions to do anything more complicated than a call.
12:49 magnuse some sort of non-mobile? ;-)
12:49 magnuse ah
12:49 oleonard In the olden days we used to call that a phone.
12:48 magnuse but what's that dark grey thingy with the buttons on the far left?
12:47 magnuse yay
12:47 oleonard That's my Chatzilla window on the right
12:47 magnuse and maybe irc too?
12:47 magnuse well, there's a koha staff screen
12:45 oleonard You guys are in that picture too, can you tell?
12:44 oleonard Referencing rather than straight-up reading (although straight-up reading would do me better)
12:43 magnuse yay ;-)
12:42 oleonard http://search.myacpl.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=170031
12:41 * magnuse tries to figure out what oleonard is reading
12:40 oleonard https://twitter.com/#!/oleonard/status/129537423498678272/photo/1
12:38 wahanui magnuse: I forgot meetings
12:38 magnuse wahanui: forget meetings
12:34 jcamins_away Not on the twenty-seventh floor, though... I don't like heights.
12:34 * jcamins_away adds "executive suite" to his master plan.
12:33 oleonard I might be exaggerating just a little bit.
12:32 * Danielle_ shudders, remembering the weekly status meeting at $job[-1]
12:32 paul_p oleonard: 27th floor ? In Athens ? really ? The building is new then ;-)
12:30 oleonard No meetings. I'm all alone this morning in the library's 27th floor executive suite.
12:30 wahanui meetings are getting longish, and I think that's happening from folks getting slammed at work. Pop in, talk to each other more. Should make for shorter meetings and better communication.
12:30 jcamins_away oleonard: meetings?
12:29 oleonard So what was it I was going to do when I got to work? I was thinking about it three hours ago...
10:43 cait bye all
09:10 magnuse cait++
08:51 druthb Must sleep.
08:51 druthb I'm not surprised...you're a long way from the server. I'll take a look at some optimizes in the morning.
08:50 kmkale druthb: on the above link I am getting image not loaded in 30 seconds bunch of such messages
08:49 kmkale i'll have to split early as its Baubeej tomorrow. Diner at sisters :)
08:49 kmkale druthb: cool. see ya soon :)
08:48 druthb but I'm rooming with Jo and Brooke anyway. :D
08:48 druthb thanx oodles magnus and kmkale. it's 0500 here...bed. We'll be there after drinks at vihangs--about 8 or 9, iirc...
08:48 kmkale druthb: friday is tomorrow. Planning to meet jo and brooke at Vihangs in the evening. What time are you likely to reach?
08:47 magnuse druthb: works for me
08:47 magnuse namaskar kmkale
08:47 kmkale Namaaste magnuse
08:47 druthb Hi, Magnus!
08:47 kmkale hehyes loads
08:46 druthb (without all the extra dots..)
08:46 magnuse \o
08:46 druthb http://www.kathleenmscanlon.com/galleries.html
08:46 druthb Try to load http://www.kathleenmscanlon.com/galleries.html.... does it work?
08:46 druthb Friday evening, Mumbai time. :)
08:46 kmkale sure
08:46 kmkale reaching?
08:46 druthb Can you do me a big favor right quick?
08:46 druthb hi, kmkale. we leave tomorrow morning, our time.
08:46 kmkale when are you starting?
08:46 kmkale heya druthb
08:46 druthb o/
08:36 magnuse http://www.internet-librarian.com/2011/
08:34 cait hm what is ili?
08:29 * magnuse should have been at ili in london today... next year maybe?
08:29 cait good morning magnuse :)
08:29 magnuse kia ora cait
08:15 cait hi #koha
07:05 asaurat hi !
06:43 reiveune1 hello
06:21 wahanui que tal, magnuse
06:21 magnuse bonjour
06:19 alex_a hi
06:18 magnuse eythian: cool picture!
05:22 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7090] Add "AllowItemsOnHandCheckout" syspref to allow issue to the patron regardless of hold status <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7090>
05:12 eythian http://imgur.com/HeCr1
03:56 kmkale rangi aroound?
03:51 kmkale Namaskaar #koha
03:04 rangi not yet, i emailed dont have a reply yet, will chase up in the morning with a phone call
03:04 paulnz did you get hold of anyone at vic?
03:00 paulnz nice one rangi
02:37 rangi paulnz: recommendations are building now
02:32 eythian heh
02:32 wizzyrea :)
02:32 wizzyrea it's a quote, don't be mad.
02:32 wizzyrea "strangled it's first vowel"
02:31 ibeardslee welsh?
02:31 eythian you only really need one vowel.
02:30 wizzyrea to my ears
02:30 wizzyrea well more like aeroplin
02:30 wizzyrea is aeroplane
02:29 wizzyrea the one that still gets me
02:29 wizzyrea it totally is.
02:29 eythian call it research :)
02:26 rangi heh
02:26 wizzyrea this is educational.
02:13 eythian http://www.nzonscreen.com/title/new-zild-2005
01:06 cait lol
01:01 slef i am not
01:01 wahanui i am a bot
01:01 slef ok wahanui!
01:01 wahanui the answer is always go back to sleep
01:01 slef the answer?
00:45 eythian ah right :)
00:45 bg I was seeing in wahanui had anything for memcached ;)
00:45 bg heh no -
00:41 eythian wrongwindow.com?
00:40 bg memcached?
00:06 paulnz rangi - excellent
00:04 rangi paulnz: ill make it work