Time  Nick             Message
23:50 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6142 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, stephane.delaune, ASSIGNED , CanBookBeReserved function is redefined in C4/ILSDI/Utility.pm
23:50 slef             oops, rude reply to bug 6142 sent. Probably shouldn't have.
22:59 paulnz           will z39 work?
22:56 paulnz           yep, all good - bon appetit
22:54 rangi            paulnz: search should be working now, ducking out for lunch now
22:51 rangi            have just emailed margaret
22:51 rangi            :)
22:48 paulnz           ok, will see how the suitcase looks
22:47 rangi            if you have room and its not a hassle may as well bring it
22:47 rangi            could be simple, could take a bunch of messing around
22:46 rangi            hmm the answer is maybe
22:45 paulnz           or too much messing around installing driver?
22:45 paulnz           i have a spare, it should be easy to use direct off one laptop only you think?
22:44 paulnz           forgot to mention receipt printer
22:43 paulnz           thanks rangi
22:37 cait             save travels :)
22:37 rangi            paulnz: will rebuild it now
22:36 paulnz           ok, lucky you. V jealous
22:35 eythian          hi cait
22:35 eythian          paulnz: no, leave on Saturday
22:32 paulnz           eythian are you in india yet?
22:29 paulnz           morning to you cait
22:28 cait             morning eythian and paulnz
22:27 paulnz           righto, that should stave off another bout of pre-conference panic
22:24 eythian          paulnz: nothing to worry about, he hasn't rebuilt the index yet
22:23 paulnz           rangi - Nothing comes up in catalog search results in 3.6
22:22 paulnz           howdy all
21:18 wahanui          well, mailing list is at http://koha-community.org/support/koha-mailing-lists/
21:18 cait             mailing list?
21:18 cait             what are we talking about?
21:18 cait             hm
21:17 rangi            bbiab meetings
21:17 * rangi          doesnt have to censor himself now he is no longer RM
21:17 rangi            and its not the people who get confused, its the ones who cause the confusion intentionally
21:17 rangi            we all know who the dickbags are here
21:17 rangi            naw hes not in trouble
21:16 rhcl_away        [off] LL examples
21:13 rangi            ?
21:10 rhcl_away        uh-oh. is he ever in trouble
21:00 slef             no reason. sorry. just a long day with no koha :( so looking in :)
21:00 cait             ?
20:59 slef             boomsheboom
20:35 francharb        bye all
20:01 * oleonard       will be back for more tomorrow
20:00 kathryn          hi there cait : )
19:59 cait             morning kathryn and rangi :)
19:59 rangi            ata marie kathryn :)
19:58 kathryn          morena rangi!
19:14 cait             oleonard: :(
19:14 cait             oleonard: yep it fails silently
19:12 cait             oleonard: hm it works for empty groups
19:11 cait             next - oleonard wanted me to test something :)
19:11 cait             ok
19:11 jcamins_away     cait++
19:11 jcamins_away     Thanks!
19:10 cait             sent
19:10 cait             ok, I took the short cut :)
19:10 * oleonard       often checks Bugzilla for email addresses
19:10 jcamins_away     It's not like everyone on #koha doesn't already have access to my e-mail address somewhere, though.
19:09 jcamins_away     True.
19:08 cait             pm would ave worked too :)
19:07 jcamins_away     [off] jcamins@cpbibliography.com
19:06 wahanui          cait: I forgot email
19:06 cait             forget email
19:06 cait             lol
19:06 wahanui          i guess email is hosed on library_guy's dev server :'(
19:06 cait             email?
19:04 jcamins_away     I will certainly take them. :)
19:04 jcamins_away     :)
19:01 cait             I wanted to send you the icu files
19:00 cait             ah
18:56 jcamins_away     cait: I am.
18:50 cait             have to share the laptop keyboard and mouse with someone else right now :)
18:49 cait             I can test in a minute
18:49 cait             hm
18:47 oleonard         From here: /cgi-bin/koha/acqui/basketgroup.pl?booksellerid=1
18:46 cait             not sure you can do it from other places too
18:45 cait             you can delete the basket group from the baskets
18:45 cait             what do you want to do?
18:45 cait             hm that makes sense
18:44 oleonard         cait: Looks like deleting a basket group fails if there are baskets in it
18:42 trea             ohi cait
18:42 cait             jcamins_away: still around?
18:42 cait             hi trea :)
18:41 trea_lunch       bah
18:40 trea_lunch       nick trea
18:25 cait             cool thx oleonard :)
18:25 oleonard         Try that cait
18:25 huginn           New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6880] Reason for suggestions do not save <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6880>
18:22 cait             hm you could not watch the bug list in general... but miss outon the other things then
18:09 chris_n          too bad theres not a way to send notices only to the reporter of the bug
18:08 * oleonard       comes rushing back wielding his bat, but cannot find chris_n
18:04 * chris_n        hammers the bug list with status update requests and quickly hides
17:32 jcamins_away     I don't need it now. I can remind you again when you're back from your vacation.
17:31 cait             let me see if it's in one of the mail folders I can access from here
17:31 jcamins_away     ;)
17:31 jcamins_away     Not that I'm having problems with ICU right now, but I'd like to see what a working configuration looks like.
17:31 cait             hm
17:31 jcamins_away     cait: it'd help me!
17:31 cait             trea_lunch: would an icu config file help you? I think there is a problem with the one in koha right now
17:30 cait             icu works nice for us
17:30 cait             hm
17:30 jcamins_away     Trea is suffering the slings and arrows of outrageous ICU.
17:28 libsysguy        what goes on in #Koha today
17:27 libsysguy        i was just wanting to ask her a migration question
17:27 libsysguy        hey guys :)
17:24 cait             and hi libsysguy :)
17:24 cait             yep
17:20 oleonard-away    druthb is traveling libsysguy
17:18 wahanui          druthb was last seen on #koha 2 days, 2 hours, 6 minutes and 49 seconds ago, saying: o/ [Mon Oct 24 15:09:44 2011]
17:17 libsysguy        seen druthb
17:06 * paul_p         goes to eat dinner ;-)
17:05 * jcamins_away   goes to eat lunch.
17:04 jcamins_away     I may have that backwards.
17:04 jcamins_away     Unless you're using ICU, in which case the search will fail.
17:03 wahanui          jcamins_away: that doesn't look right
17:03 jcamins_away     Change it to double quotes, and the search will work.
17:03 jcamins_away     trea: yeah, it's the quotes.
17:03 jcamins_away     ICU is a horrible monster that doesn't do what anyone expects.
17:03 wahanui          jcamins_away: I forgot icu
17:03 jcamins_away     wahanui: forget ICU.
17:03 wahanui          i heard ICU was a friend of yaz, not really integrated.
17:03 trea             ICU?
17:03 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7092 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Complete-subfield searches TraceCompleteSubfields syspref not working correctly
17:03 jcamins_away     Bug 7092.
17:02 jcamins_away     trea: it's ICU.
16:59 chris_n          a dubious honor to be sure ;-)
16:59 oleonard         chris_n will be the FDR of release maintainers before he knows it
16:58 * magnus_afk     wanders off to look after his lam karhai
16:58 huginn           New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6554] Broken encoding in members home/search page <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6554>
16:58 * chris_n        tosses his <your-local-goes-here>0.02 worth into the bugzilla remake thread
16:56 Oak              i totally agree magnus_afk :)
16:56 jcamins_away     packages++
16:55 * oleonard       wouldn't Google for anything Koha-install-related unless it was to find stuff from the mailing lists
16:55 magnus_afk       that whole experience of scratching your head for a while and then figuring it out is a great part of the learning experience, if you ask me!
16:55 Oak              :]
16:54 magnus_afk       Oak++
16:54 Oak              sounds fair
16:54 Oak              yes, i think so :) but, i'll ask if i get stuck for more than 30 minutes.
16:51 oleonard         So Oak, can you find your place in the INSTALL file and pick up there?
16:50 cait             once I have persuaded and bribed apache
16:50 cait             hm zebra is nice most of the time
16:50 magnus_afk       packages++
16:50 wizzyrea         not with the packages tho
16:50 wizzyrea         zebra is my usual nemesis
16:48 cait             lol
16:48 oleonard         Apache and Zebra see me coming and they're all, Oh, you didn't have enough? and start cracking their knuckles
16:48 cait             me to. apache hates me.
16:48 Oak              hmm
16:48 wizzyrea         ^^
16:48 oleonard         I ask installation questions every time I install Koha again.
16:47 cait             Oak: meaning it's not stupid to ask when you get stuck :)
16:47 magnus_afk       they do
16:47 cait             Oak: that's not right , people ask installation questions all the time
16:47 cait             busy day on the bugs list
16:47 Oak              i'm looking like an idiot. i'll read stuff online, google, bang my head. but should do that myself. should not ask these questions here. have never seen anyone asking help about this.
16:45 Oak              wait.
16:44 Oak              I just opened INSTALL file in cloned git folder koha1. i follow that?
16:44 magnus_afk       Oak: ok
16:44 Oak              i mean mysql is working.
16:44 Oak              no mysql is working.
16:44 oleonard         Yes. It works as expected if you add a column called "patronreason"
16:43 chris_n          I'll email fredericd
16:43 cait             so there should have been a separate column?
16:43 magnus_afk       Oak: unable to connect to mysql or in general? did you install mysql, btw?
16:43 cait             oleonard: ouch
16:43 chris_n          ahh
16:43 cait             chris_n: I think it's bad timing then - po files created before you were done fixing it
16:43 oleonard         cait: As far as I can tell the "patronreason" column was never added to the suggestions table. I'm not sure how the patch passed anyone's test missing that little detail
16:43 chris_n          the test was also buggy, however
16:42 chris_n          thanks, though
16:42 chris_n          cait: actually I found it earlier
16:42 oleonard         Oak: INSTALL file?
16:40 Oak              localhost:8080 says unable to connect. but localhost redirected me to http://localhost/cgi-bin/koha/maintenance.pl
16:39 huginn           cait: The operation succeeded.
16:39 cait             @later tell chris_n found a conflict marker in po files for 3.4 - is this related to the problems with the test earlier? (bad timing?) circulation.tt <<<<<<< HEAD %s
16:38 cait             chris_n: coming from circulation.tt
16:38 cait             chris_n: I found this in pootle for 3.4: <<<<<<< HEAD %s
16:37 Oak              is there a tutorial that tells you how to configure koha on a vanilla Debian / Ubuntu system? like really really a tutorial. not a treasure hunt map that only has hints.
16:37 libsysguy        morning #Koha
16:35 magnus_afk       i have not done it this way before either...
16:34 Oak              called it koha1
16:34 magnus_afk       and the thing you hve to change in that file is DocumentRoot, i think
16:34 Oak              i see
16:34 magnus_afk       (if you called your instance koha)
16:34 cait             I heard dinner will take another 30 minutes
16:34 magnus_afk       the file to edit would be /etc/apache/sites-enabled/koha
16:34 cait             magnus_afk: can you help?
16:34 cait             ah ok
16:34 magnus_afk       i think eythian said to change the apache config to point to the git clone
16:33 cait             and run the web installer
16:33 cait             and run the make thing
16:33 cait             then I create a database in mysql
16:33 cait             I only use the packages for getting the dependencies
16:33 cait             I have never done it using koha-create
16:33 cait             hm
16:32 Oak              uh oh, let me turn on that other pc again. i had just turned it off few minutes ago (init 0)
16:31 Oak              ok wait
16:31 Oak              i only know how to set it up in Slaclware...
16:31 cait             does this work?
16:31 cait             ok, so when you access localhost:8080
16:31 Oak              nope
16:31 cait             is your koha working?
16:31 cait             Oak: have you run the web installer?
16:31 cait             ah, not sure owen is still around :)
16:31 Oak              cait, when I left for class, i had done this: http://pastie.org/2761006, and one of the guys here told me that now i need to git clone and point apache to that. so now git clone is done. what's next i don't know. will bother you guys on weekend perhaps?!! now you do what you are working on with owen.
16:29 cait             oleonard: I updated teh bug with some additional thoughts
16:27 cait             Oak: does it work?
16:24 cait             i think so
16:24 oleonard         Or is that for approval/denial reasons?
16:24 cait             but the problem is, that it does not save there
16:24 cait             and we could use that - yes, although I would like a separate field better
16:24 cait             but that's normally used for tha reject/accept reasons
16:23 cait             yep
16:23 oleonard         cait there is a "reason" column in the suggestions table
16:22 Oak              okay thank you.
16:21 cait             you can go to preferences - there you can add saved searches to show up on the bottom for you
16:21 cait             what you want is the 'needs sign-off'
16:21 cait             on bugzilla, there are several saved searches you can use
16:21 cait             you pick something you want to work on :)
16:20 cait             aah
16:19 Oak              so after koha is git cloned, what do i do?
16:19 Oak              hello cait :)
16:19 cait             yeah, probably used to work
16:18 oleonard         Seems like something I would have tested...
16:18 cait             hehe
16:18 oleonard         Picky picky.
16:18 cait             hi Oak :)
16:18 cait             it does not save anywhere
16:18 oleonard         So what's not working?
16:18 cait             http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commit;h=9a15aa451442c3c0929ae0f81ad03f588eb2439e
16:18 cait             oleonard: you should hide!!
16:17 Oak              eythian around?
16:16 oleonard         It was problem lacking something fundamental which prevented it from being officially submitted.
16:16 oleonard         yeah, I think I worked on cherry-picking that feature actually
16:15 * Oak            waves
16:15 cait             I think <what should not be named> has a feature for storing old cardnumbers similar to what horizon does
16:15 cait             but last I checked it only showed lots of ??
16:14 cait             the borrower modify thing
16:14 cait             or perhaps the logs
16:14 cait             nope
16:14 oleonard         Does anyone know if it's possible to find out what a person's old card number was after they've changed it?
16:14 oleonard         Before I ask what the problem is, I have a quick question:
16:14 * oleonard       might be, did some work on suggestions
16:13 cait             feeling responsible? :)
16:13 wahanui          well, oleonard is the master UI designer of koha or an awesome bug wrangler
16:13 cait             oleonard?
16:13 cait             looks like before the template switch
16:13 * oleonard       hides
16:13 cait             hm
16:13 cait             working on finding the commit
16:12 paul_p           cait: git blame opac-suggestion.pl maybe ?
16:12 cait             perhaps we miss half of the implementation on this
16:11 cait             but I think it should be a separate field
16:11 cait             or have not identified it
16:11 cait             i don't see one in the suggestion table
16:11 paul_p           and it's probably in another field (at least I hope...)
16:11 paul_p           I hadn't seen it before
16:11 cait             yep
16:11 paul_p           or it's not the reason, it's an argument "why you should buy it"
16:11 cait             but totally broken right now
16:11 cait             hm, I can see it's a nice feature
16:10 * paul_p         can't see why there is a reason on the OPAC...
16:10 cait             also noted on the bug ;)
16:10 cait             and I checked the logs - no entries
16:10 cait             yep
16:10 paul_p           I've added suggestion from both staff & opac, then have accepted them, with a reason, from staff
16:10 paul_p           maybe that's the difference !
16:10 paul_p           ah ! i tested to add a reason on the staff, not on the OPAC !
16:09 cait             paul_p: oh, it IS a separate authorized value - OPAC_SUG
16:08 cait             paul_p: I think it should perhaps be a different auth list and database field for the patron reason?
16:08 cait             I am not even sure this should go into the reason field in the database
16:06 cait             suggestions have quite a lot of bugs right now :(
16:06 cait             reasons in opac - not in staff
16:06 cait             paul_p: I wondered if we were talking aobut the same
16:06 oleonard         Thanks
16:06 paul_p           oleonard: yep
16:06 paul_p           cait: strange for 6880...
16:05 oleonard         cait: A basket can't be in a group unless it has been closed?
15:58 wizzyrea         I need a report to show bibs with only one item
15:58 wizzyrea         dumb sql question of the day
15:57 wizzyrea         all right
15:53 jenkins_koha     chris.nighswonger: Removing merge conflict markers
15:53 jenkins_koha     Project Koha_3.4.x build #56: STILL UNSTABLE in 42 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.4.x/56/
15:39 huginn           cait: Karma for "suggestions" has been increased 0 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of -1.
15:39 cait             @karma suggestions
15:39 cait             suggestions--
15:39 chris_n          heya cait
15:39 cait             hi chris_n :)
15:39 huginn           chris_n: The operation succeeded.
15:38 chris_n          @later tell rangi never-mind; there were merge conflict markers, but the test was buggy as well
15:11 jenkins_koha     Starting build 56 for job Koha_3.4.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #50 17 j ago)
15:06 cait             paul_p: I tried adding a po line to as basket and closed the basket - but i got no mail for it to be ordered and the suggestion status has not changed - bug?
15:05 cait             paul_p: when is a suggestion ordered?
15:05 reiveune1        bye
15:04 Danielle         \o
15:01 * cait           is still checking acq - right now - feedback on suggestions by mail
14:58 chris_n          broken_test--
14:58 paul_p           (closing the patched ones, bumping the still applicable ones, doing nothing on some)
14:57 * paul_p         checking all BLO & CRI bug open against 3.6 now.
14:56 chris_n          interestingly confusing test output: not ok 5130 - ./koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/circ/circulation.tt has no merge conflict markers
14:50 huginn           chris_n: The operation succeeded.
14:50 chris_n          @later tell rangi what's up with the merge_conflic_marker test failures on jenkins? they pass fine on my rmaint repo
14:46 oleonard         I thought that referred to the fact that you have to have reports permission for the overdues report
14:44 wizzyrea         I don't see it either
14:42 nengard          I don't see it on the patron permissions list
14:42 nengard          release notes question - "New permission for overdues report" - where is this permission?
14:16 cait             ok, thank you !
14:13 oleonard         Line 752 of acq.js if you're curious. I'm not going to take time to debug, just report.
14:12 cait             I got a mail, but the suggestion info is not parsed into it :(
14:12 cait             I am working on testing the suggestion mails
14:12 cait             but there are lots of mysteries hidden in acq
14:12 cait             wonder what it's supposed to do!
14:11 oleonard         cait, it might not even show up as a js error, I'm not sure. I only noticed it because the Firebug console highlighted it. I'll file a bug: the javascript is trying to do something AJAXy with a perl script which doesn't exist.
14:08 pastebot         "nengard" at pasted "duplciates report" (10 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/97
14:08 cait             and where is the error shown?
14:07 cait             using which option?
14:07 cait             oh
14:05 oleonard         No, when adding order lines to a basket
14:05 cait             most of the time I don't use that - creating my basket group when closing the basket
14:05 cait             using the drag and drop?
14:05 cait             hm
14:04 oleonard         I'm seeing it in Firebug, file not found.
14:04 oleonard         cait, have you seen this error related to "fetch_sort_dropbox.pl" when adding items to a basket?
13:59 cait             instead of printing
13:59 cait             it would be nice to have an option for mailing them
13:59 cait             I would think so yes
13:59 cait             hm
13:59 oleonard         cait: So the purpose of the basket groups is primarily related to the printing process?
13:56 oleonard         Okay, I have successfully created a basket group :)
13:55 cait             paul had to show me how it worked, because I didn't get it
13:55 cait             it's the only place right now where we have drag & drop
13:55 cait             and drag and drop all ungrouped baskets into the group
13:55 cait             you can create a new group from the vendor summary page
13:55 cait             if you don't put it in a basket group when closing (checkbox not checked)
13:54 cait             going to the basket and change the group
13:54 cait             you can ungroup it
13:54 cait             is the same, without the basket group summary page
13:54 cait             pdfformat::layout2pages
13:54 cait             pdfformat::layout3pages means there will be a title page, a basket group summary page (listing the included baskets) and the baskets
13:54 oleonard         If I don't add my basket to a group when I close it, how can I add it to a group later?
13:53 cait             2 different values for that
13:53 cait             system preference... OrderPdfFormat
13:53 oleonard         Hang on...
13:53 cait             there are 2 different layout options for printing basket groups
13:53 cait             this can also be printed like that
13:53 cait             so 1 basket in the basket group
13:53 cait             the basket will be added to a group with the same name
13:53 cait             if you check the little checkbox
13:52 cait             if you just confirm - the basket will not be added to a group and you can group them later
13:52 cait             it will show you a yellow alert window
13:52 cait             you have to close the basket
13:52 cait             in order to create basket groups
13:52 cait             like a delivery address
13:52 cait             and define data for it
13:52 cait             you can print all of a baskt group into one pdf
13:52 cait             and baskets can be grouped into basket groups
13:51 cait             order lines which go into baskets
13:51 cait             we have
13:51 cait             ok
13:51 cait             or should I just keep talking... )
13:51 oleonard         What are they for?
13:51 cait             what do you want to know?
13:51 cait             np
13:51 oleonard         Yeah, sorry
13:51 cait             you mean basket groups?
13:51 cait             sure :)
13:51 cait             I think I will stick with acq for now
13:51 oleonard         cait: Is this a good time to talk about budget groups?
13:51 cait             ok
13:48 oleonard         ...although I prefer to exclude enhancements.
13:48 oleonard         paul_p has shared a similar search: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=very%20old&sharer_id=21&list_id=14032
13:46 cait             ah ok
13:46 cait             I was planning to spend some more time on acq, closing and testing bugs in there and then perhaps look at other patch pushed
13:46 oleonard         I've been going through my "older than a year" bug list
13:46 cait             I saw that you have been closing some older bugs - do you have a strategy or just as you run into them?
13:45 oleonard         Hi cait
13:45 oleonard         (testers willing, of course)
13:45 cait             hi oleonard :)
13:45 oleonard         paul_p: This is a hard one to test because it touches so many files, but partly because of that it'd be nice to get it in early in the 3.8 cycle
13:44 cait             hi all
13:44 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4048 normal, P5, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , CSS and JS libs must be outside of translated paths
13:44 oleonard         I've just pushed a big big fix for Bug 4048 to my public repo if anyone is interested
13:30 oleonard         Not that I know anything about it, but what kind of errors?
13:29 bocian85         i get errors in the proccess and i suppose it can be realted to some mismatches in the connection type that i've set up
13:29 bocian85         but i cannot import data from them
13:29 bocian85         well its not even that, i've already connected with 2 servers
13:27 bocian85         i'm looking for someone who could help me hook up some polish z39.50 to my koha installation
13:27 bocian85         is there anyone from poland here ?
13:27 bocian85         hello
10:20 magnuse          explain the hobbit thing
10:18 eythian_mobile   What'd I do?
10:18 magnuse          ah, thanks eythian_mobile
10:12 eythian_mobile   OK :-)
10:12 Oak              44% git cloning completed. me go for class now. will report when i get back :) later.
10:10 eythian_mobile   I forget the details, but it was a weakening of employment law relating to contractors, to make it easier for movie studios.
10:08 magnuse          what did the government do?
10:03 eythian_mobile   Not a lot, no. Nothing like that. The government did what it was always going to do, and no one cares any more.
10:02 magnuse          oh, there was more?
10:00 eythian_mobile   Yeah, that was related
09:59 magnuse          i remember there was some kind of rally one the first days of kohacon10
09:59 eythian_mobile   It was quite political here
09:59 eythian_mobile   Yeah
09:57 magnuse          yeah, i saw filming for the hobbit has started...
09:57 eythian_mobile   They have venomous plants too
09:57 asaurat          only orcs
09:57 magnuse          that was another big plus for nz: no dangerous animals!
09:56 eythian_mobile   No idea
09:56 Oak              that bit
09:56 Oak              what was it?
09:56 eythian_mobile   Also, Australians
09:56 magnuse          ouch
09:56 eythian_mobile   I got bit by something there a few years ago. Had a really evil looking rash covering my leg.
09:55 cait             lots of poisonous animals
09:55 cait             true
09:55 eythian_mobile   Of course, I have to go to Australia in a few weeks. Even scarier!
09:54 magnuse          heh
09:53 eythian_mobile   Hmm, suspicious
09:53 wahanui          Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world.
09:53 eythian_mobile   wahanui: germs
09:53 eythian_mobile   germs
09:53 eythian_mobile   Melbourne is a 4 hour flight.
09:53 cait             eythian: sure you want to come over here? the germs can be dangeorus...
09:52 cait             hehe
09:52 magnuse          combining_business_and_pleasure++
09:52 cait             I got to spend a night in london and they lost my suitcase on the way back
09:52 cait             lucky?
09:52 eythian_mobile   You were lucky. I've had a 12 hour flight from Melbourne before.
09:51 magnuse          36 hours of travel - each way
09:51 eythian_mobile   I probably will :-) actually I was thinking of going over sooner for a holiday, but maybe I can make them coincide.
09:51 cait             yeah, magnuse came too - and the flights were loooong
09:50 magnuse          what she said
09:49 cait             the least you can do is come over here next :P
09:49 cait             hey, I was in nz
09:48 eythian_mobile   Whereas I'll have to go to the antipodes
09:48 eythian_mobile   Yeah, but you could almost walk to it next year
09:48 cait             no matter what
09:48 cait             I will go next year
09:47 eythian_mobile   It'll be great
09:47 eythian_mobile   You should be
09:47 cait             not lazy, but perhaps regretting it a little right now :)
09:47 cait             hey!
09:47 Oak              :)
09:47 eythian_mobile   Hehe
09:47 Oak              let's talk about that pretending she is not here....
09:47 magnuse          let's see eythian_mobile getting out of that one... ;-)
09:46 eythian_mobile   Too lazy ;-)
09:46 Oak              but cait *is* cool. why is she not going?
09:46 eythian_mobile   Heh
09:46 Oak              was never cool.
09:46 * eythian_mobile leaves on a jet plane on Saturday NZ time
09:45 magnuse          hm...
09:45 Oak              ah, then it makes sense
09:45 eythian_mobile   Pity. All the cool kids are going
09:45 magnuse          <!++
09:45 Oak              eythian_mobile, unfortunately no :(
09:45 magnuse          hehe
09:44 huginn           eythian_mobile: Karma for "<!" has been increased 5 times and decreased 112 times for a total karma of -107.
09:44 eythian_mobile   @karma <!
09:44 Oak              oh, you guys!
09:44 huginn           magnuse: Karma for "Oak" has been increased 12 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 12.
09:44 magnuse          @karma Oak
09:44 magnuse          yeah Oak++
09:44 Oak              yes, says 197468 objects!! speed is around 70KB. so yes, may take a while.
09:44 huginn           magnuse: Karma for "Oak" has been increased 11 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 11.
09:44 magnuse          @karma Oak
09:44 eythian_mobile   Oak: coming to kohacon?
09:44 cait             and Oak++ :)
09:43 cait             sorry, had to move the laptop downstairs
09:43 cait             magnuse++ eythian++
09:43 eythian_mobile   It may take a little while
09:43 magnuse          yay!
09:43 Oak              it's working
09:43 Oak              okay, ran this command in my normal users folder:        git clone git://git.koha-community.org/koha.git koha1
09:40 magnuse          s/tun/run/
09:40 Oak              okay
09:40 magnuse          and don't tun it as root
09:40 Oak              got it
09:40 magnuse          i would do it in my home dir...
09:40 magnuse          it will get cloned into the directory you are in when you run the command
09:39 Oak              if I am in / for example, will it get cloned there? or should I be in a specific folder before running that command?
09:38 Oak              where will it get cloned... i mean in which folder?
09:38 Oak              run the git clone command as root?
09:36 Oak              okay. got it! setting up name and mail now...
09:36 magnuse          now that we have stopped sending signed off patches to the mail list you probably don't have to worry about setting up smtp
09:35 magnuse          3. http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Version_Control_Using_Git#Clone_the_Public_Repository
09:35 magnuse          2. http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Version_Control_Using_Git#Set_your_name_.26_mail_address
09:35 magnuse          1. installing git
09:35 magnuse          the important things are
09:35 Oak              thank you.
09:34 magnuse          http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Version_Control_Using_Git
09:34 Oak              no. wiki link? have not used git :-|
09:33 magnuse          Oak: have you cloned the koha code from/with git?
09:32 Oak              how do i do that?
09:31 eythian_mobile   Now you'll have to set your Apache to refer to the git code rather than the package.
09:28 Oak              well, this is what I just did: http://pastie.org/2761006
09:27 eythian_mobile   I wouldn't bother configuring it, it's mostly to make sure you have everything installed
09:26 Oak              hm
09:24 magnuse          i'd just do a normal dev install, minus the steps that koha-common saved you
09:24 magnuse          yeah, if you follow eythian_mobile 's instructions
09:22 Oak              now ... edit /etc/koha/koha-sites.conf i guess.
09:22 Oak              done :)
09:12 magnuse          yay!
09:12 Oak              apt-get install koha-common in progress...
09:10 Oak              magnuse++
09:10 magnuse          np
09:10 cait             also thx for your sign offs :)
09:10 cait             magnuse++
09:09 cait             :)
09:06 Oak              great! thank you.
09:05 magnuse          http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.4_on_Debian_Squeeze#Development_Version
09:05 Oak              i have an hour, before I head for class. let me turn on that pc, and ssh to it, and install koha.
09:05 magnuse          "sudo apt-get install koha-common" will take care of all the dependencies, except mysql
09:04 magnuse          good point
09:04 eythian_mobile   A handy trick is to install the packages, as that gets you everything you need to get going.
09:03 Oak              so when a running dev install is ready, then i'll annoy you guys.
09:03 Oak              okay
09:03 magnuse          having a running dev install is a good start
09:03 Oak              hm, eythian_mobile ...
09:02 Oak              on Debian pc, web server is set. i need to follow some tutorial on setting up Koha... should not be much problem.
09:02 eythian_mobile   Oak: virtualbox is good for that sort of thing
09:01 cait             ok, so where do we start? :)
09:01 Oak              cait, i prepared a second pc because on laptop, i have Slackware. and most tutorials are for Debian / Ubuntu centered. and i know you meant dev installation of Koha :)
08:52 * Oak            goes to http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/2011-11-04_Global_bug_squashing_day
08:52 magnuse          i have tried to collect relevant links here: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/2011-11-04_Global_bug_squashing_day
08:52 Oak              a second pc with Debian 6 is ready.
08:51 cait             using git?
08:51 cait             do you have a dev installation?
08:51 cait             ask me when I am here - but there are also good tutorials on the wiki
08:51 Oak              :)
08:51 Oak              okay, good.
08:51 cait             :)
08:51 cait             sure :
08:50 Oak              cait, yes I want to learn how to sign off things (you asked yesterday but i was away). will you please teach me this weekend perhaps?
08:45 Oak              ah
08:45 * magnuse        suspects Brooke is in india
08:45 Oak              :) hey
08:45 cait             hi Oak :)
08:45 huginn           Oak: The operation succeeded.
08:45 Oak              @later tell Brooke Oh Brooke, where art thou?
08:43 Oak              Bonjour Mademoiselle cait
08:41 Oak              magnuse
08:41 magnuse          Oak
08:41 Oak              aloha #koha
08:23 magnuse          namaste kmkale
08:19 kmkale           hi magnuse
08:19 magnuse          yay!
08:18 cait             :)
08:17 kmkale           and lots of fun :)
08:16 kmkale           next few days are going to be busy
08:16 kmkale           yep cait
08:15 cait             kmkale: and soon is kohacon :)
08:14 cait             morning magnuse :)
08:14 magnuse          guten morgen cait
08:11 kmkale           its Diwaali so its supposed to be the best time of the year
08:10 cait             how is it going?
08:10 cait             hi kmkale :)
08:10 kmkale           hi cait :)
08:07 cait             hi #koha
08:05 huginn           New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6302] Failing to send email notices - to_address not set <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6302>
07:31 kmkale           hi paul_p
07:29 paul_p           hello everybody
07:23 * magnuse        needs a reboot
07:19 francharb        hi everyone
07:02 sophie_m         hello #koha
06:48 wahanui          hola, reiveune
06:48 reiveune         hello
06:44 kmkale           bye mtj have fun and be careful
06:40 magnuse          ah, mtj is already in india? have fun!
06:40 mtj              will be on irc later...
06:40 mtj              thanks for the rassa info kmkale
06:39 mtj              ok, we are going to go for a wander to the supermarket
06:38 eythian_mobile   It's probably the sort of thing I could sit down and do in a few hours.
06:38 magnuse          eythian_mobile: i'd vote for that ;-)
06:37 ropuch           Morning #koha
06:37 eythian_mobile   Maybe I should do that at the hackfest.
06:37 eythian_mobile   Nope, I want to do more testing on them, but I haven't had time.
06:37 magnuse          eythian_mobile: but no i10n packages yet, right?
06:33 kmkale           mtj: Thane is just 1 hr by a local train from VT station
06:33 kmkale           mtj: if you cant find it come to Thane and I will take you to some good places I know
06:32 kmkale           :)
06:31 mtj              ill start on the red... then work my way up to the white rassa
06:30 kmkale           mtj: if not the red rassa is quite hot too ;)
06:29 kmkale           mtj: and ask if they have white "Rassa"
06:29 mtj              kmkale: ok, will do :)
06:28 kmkale           mtj: look for a restaurant advertising Kolhapuri cuisine
06:28 mtj              yess sir!
06:27 mtj              still looking for a hotttt vege curry!
06:27 eythian_         that is your mission ;)
06:27 magnuse          eythian++
06:27 eythian_         mtj: find the local craft beer scene, and report back to me when I get there
06:27 mtj              kmkale: thanx for the suggestions
06:27 kmkale           mtj: lots of nice pubs and clubs near where you are too ;)
06:26 eythian_         magnuse: I put out 3.6 packages today if you want something to play with :)
06:26 kmkale           mtj: crawford market, VT station, Chor Bazar
06:26 kmkale           mtj: a few suggestions nearby where you are. Prince of Wels Musium, Asiatic Library, Marine Drive, Girgaum Chaupaty,
06:25 mtj              kmkale: good idea, we will go to the island, with the group
06:24 kmkale           :)
06:24 eythian_         hi there
06:23 wahanui          eythian is in NZ. ;) or a good influence
06:23 mtj              heya eythian
06:23 kmkale           mtj: I suggest elephanta with the group might be better that alone
06:23 mtj              sorry i am a bit behind on my email, and have not responded yet :/
06:23 mtj              oohh, we are keen for the 3rd nov trip
06:23 eythian_         and, presentation completed. Refinements can come tomorrow.
06:22 mtj              but no absolute plans, so far
06:21 kmkale           mtj: yay thats where we are planning the 3rd nov day trip
06:21 mtj              perhaps elephanta island, tomorrow
06:20 mtj              hmm, lots of walking about
06:19 kmkale           mtj: what plans for next three days?
06:19 mtj              so far - so good
06:19 mtj              thanks! will do
06:18 kmkale           mtj: good for you. Call me if you need any help.
06:18 mtj              the rooms are very nice :)
06:18 mtj              then up to thane, on 39th
06:18 mtj              we are at the ywca in fort/coloba for the next few days...
06:17 kmkale           mtj: :) in India?
06:17 mtj              kmkale:  heya
06:16 wahanui          bonjour, alex_a
06:16 alex_a           bonjour
06:05 kmkale           hey mtj you here already? where are you put up?
06:03 * eythian_       has one section of his talk to finish writing, and then it's done...
05:53 * mtj            waves from mumbai...
05:53 mtj              happy diwaali kmkale
05:39 kmkale           Happy Diwaali !!
05:39 kmkale           Namaskaar #koha
03:23 rangi            yay
03:22 * eythian        uploads new packages from 3.6.0
02:52 * eythian        uploads new packages from master
02:26 huginn           New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7091] Patches required to make the packages know about the 3.6 release <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7091>
01:18 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6905 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, ASSIGNED , Allow selecting a patron from circulation history to take you to their circ page
01:18 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5995 blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---, matthias.meusburger, ASSIGNED , Glitch with checkauth
01:18 jenkins_koha     * chris.nighswonger: Updating Version Number to
01:18 jenkins_koha     * robin: Bug 6905: [3.4.x] change which page clicking users in circ history takes you to
01:18 jenkins_koha     * ian.walls: Bug 5995 Followup: checkpw was returning inconsistent values
01:18 jenkins_koha     * matthias.meusburger: Bug 5995 : MT2892: Fix security issue in CAS intranet login
01:18 jenkins_koha     * srdjan: bug_6770: removed doubled override increment when using AllowHoldPolicyOverride
01:18 jenkins_koha     * srdjan: bug_5533: Improved marking items as lost
01:18 jenkins_koha     Project Koha_3.4.x build #55: STILL UNSTABLE in 40 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.4.x/55/
00:38 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7078 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, NEW , HTML::Template::Pro still listed as Koha dependency
00:38 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7063 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Add available perl packages for Debian in install_misc/debian.packages
00:38 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5995 blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---, matthias.meusburger, ASSIGNED , Glitch with checkauth
00:38 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6854 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, fcapovilla, ASSIGNED , import_borrowers.pl : Double password encryption on member update if there is no password in the csv and no default password value.
00:38 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7060 blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, NEW , All instances of GetMemberDetails are unnecessary in C4::Circulation
00:38 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7057 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, NEW , C4::Reserves::CheckReserves uses GetMemberDetails unnecessarily
00:38 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7049 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, NEW , Item form on order receive has lots of blank space
00:38 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7027 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, NEW , Corrections to German web installer txt files
00:38 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6553 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , Parentheses in corporate author break tracings
00:38 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6253 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, srdjan, ASSIGNED , Unified Patron Search subroutine
00:38 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6972 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Hardcoded template paths to en in showmarc
00:38 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6982 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, magnus, NEW , Don't show MARC21 tag documentation links for NORMARC
00:38 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6285 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , overdues csv columns
00:38 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5616 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, fcapovilla, ASSIGNED , UTF-8 problem in Card View
00:38 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6996 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, m.de.rooy, ASSIGNED , Encoding problem in opac-showmarc
00:38 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6929 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, ASSIGNED , koha-stop-zebra falls over if a zebra process isn't running
00:38 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6526 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, RESOLVED FIXED, Hold requests require cardnumbers to be set
00:38 jenkins_koha     Starting build 55 for job Koha_3.4.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #50 17 j ago)
00:38 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7007 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, jcamins, RESOLVED FIXED, 490 not displaying without indicator 1
00:38 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7026 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, henridamien, ASSIGNED , Web installer does not switch language
00:38 jenkins_koha     * ian.walls: Bug 7078: Remove HTML::Template::Pro from Koha perl dependencies list
00:38 jenkins_koha     * ian.walls: Bug 7063: add available perl packages for Debian in install_misc/debian.packages
00:38 jenkins_koha     * ian.walls: Bug 5995 Follow up: variable scope in koha/sco/sco-main.pl
00:38 jenkins_koha     * ian.walls: Bug 7060 Followup: AddReturn needs GetMemberDetails
00:38 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7051 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , Unnecessary C4::Search dependency in C4::Reserves
00:37 jenkins_koha     * frederick.capovilla: Bug 6854: Correct a double password encryption problem in import_borrowers.pl
00:37 jenkins_koha     * m.de.rooy: 7042 Improving cleanup_database.pl: handling quotes in a_session and interpreting sessdays parameter
00:37 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7037 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , Remove 'use C4::Circulation' from C4::Print
00:37 jenkins_koha     * m.de.rooy: 6094 Follow up for cleanup_database
00:37 jenkins_koha     * ian.walls: Bug 7060: GetMemberDetails unnecessary in C4::Circulation
00:37 jenkins_koha     * ian.walls: Bug 7057: CheckReserves uses GetMemberDetails unnecessarily
00:37 jenkins_koha     * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7049: [SIGNED-OFF] Item form on order receive has lots of blank space
00:37 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7036 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , remove 'use C4::Koha' from C4/Circulation
00:37 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7035 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , de-nesting C4/ClassSource.pm and C4/ClassSortRoutine.pm
00:37 jenkins_koha     * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7027: [SIGNED-OFF] Corrections to German web installer txt files
00:37 jenkins_koha     * chris.nighswonger: Updating Version Number to
00:37 jenkins_koha     * m.de.rooy: 6094 Fixing ModAuthority problems
00:37 jenkins_koha     * m.de.rooy: 6094 Fixing ModAuthority problems
00:37 jenkins_koha     * ian.walls: Bug 6553: parentheses in authors break tracings
00:37 jenkins_koha     * ian.walls: Bug 6253 followup: explicitly check ref value for ARRAY before casting
00:37 jenkins_koha     * Chris Cormack: Bug 6972 : Followup fixing bad indentation
00:37 jenkins_koha     * maxime.pelletier: Bug 6972: Hardcoded template paths to en in showmarc
00:37 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7034 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , De-nesting C4::Branch
00:37 jenkins_koha     * magnus: Bug 6982 - Don't show MARC tag documentation links for NORMARC
00:37 jenkins_koha     * paul.poulain: Bug 6285 strange order in CSV upload
00:37 jenkins_koha     * m.de.rooy: Bug 5616: UTF-8 problem in Card View / Follow up
00:37 jenkins_koha     * m.de.rooy: Bug 6996: Encoding problem in opac-showmarc
00:37 jenkins_koha     * robin: Bug 6929 - ensure that koha-stop-zebra will try to stop everything
00:37 jenkins_koha     * srdjan: bug_6253: Unified member Search()
00:37 jenkins_koha     * robin: Bug 6526 - make the reserves code use the borrowernumber
00:37 jenkins_koha     * jcamins: Bug 7007: 490 series statements should appear when not traced
00:37 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6949 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, henridamien, NEW , can't remove owner from budget
00:37 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7043 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , masthead_search id used twice in template
00:37 jenkins_koha     * f.demians: Bug 7026 Web installer does not switch language
00:37 jenkins_koha     * paul.poulain: Bug 7051 de-nesting C4::Reserve, 1st step
00:37 jenkins_koha     * paul.poulain: Bug 7037 de-nesting C4/Print.pm
00:37 jenkins_koha     * paul.poulain: Bug 7036 de-nesting C4::Circulation
00:37 jenkins_koha     * paul.poulain: Bug 7035 de-nesting C4::ClassSource & ClassSortRoutine
00:37 jenkins_koha     * paul.poulain: Bug 7034: de-nesting C4/Branch.pm
00:37 jenkins_koha     * ian.walls: Bug 6949: cannot remove owner from fund
00:37 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6983 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Item type filter on overdues report does not respect item-level_itypes preference
00:37 jenkins_koha     * Chris Cormack: Updating perl version required to match reality
00:37 jenkins_koha     * oleonard: Fix for Bug 7043 - masthead_search id used twice in template
00:37 jenkins_koha     * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6983 - Item type filter on overdues report does not respect item-level_itypes
00:37 jenkins_koha     Project Koha_3.4.x build #54: STILL UNSTABLE in 41 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.4.x/54/
00:22 libsysguy        hey guys :)