Time Nick Message 00:00 eythian cait: you're up late? 00:00 cait :P 05:57 stuartyeates rangi: I'll be at lconz briefly (for the MÄori Subject Headings talk) if you want to catch up. Or you may be busy 06:04 magnuse kia ora #koha 06:08 stuartyeates kia ora magnuse, kei te pÄ“hea koe? 06:08 magnuse um, sorry? 06:09 eythian hi magnuse 06:10 magnuse hiya eythian 06:10 magnuse congrats on the rugby! 06:11 eythian http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xN1WN0YMWZU <-- this is my general opinion on the subject :) 06:14 magnuse good for you, eythian ;-) 06:14 eythian hehe 06:14 magnuse i'm with you, btw 06:14 eythian excellent :) 06:14 stuartyeates eythian: just like that, but with odd-shaped balls 06:15 eythian stuartyeates: you should see a doctor, maybe? ;) 06:15 magnuse lol! 06:17 * eythian is of the opinion that vim needs a ':write-my-presentation' function. 06:17 eythian I bet emacs has one. 06:17 magnuse then vim should have it too 06:18 stuartyeates i'm currently deciding whether to find myself work at a campus library with windows overlooking the ticker-tape parade route tomorrow 06:18 magnuse sounds like a good plan 06:20 eythian I think they just miss where I am. I should note what time it happens so I don't get caught up in it when I go to lunch. 06:20 magnuse even better plan ;-) 06:26 alex_a hello 06:26 eythian Speaking of better plans, I'm going to go take my laptop somewhere with fresh beer and get some presentation writing done there. 06:27 magnuse good luck eythian 06:28 eythian ta :) 06:51 reiveune hello 06:52 stuartyeates hello reiveune 06:52 reiveune :) 07:07 magnuse bonjour france 07:08 hdl hi magnuse 07:08 magnuse hiya hdl 07:09 rangi ` 07:09 magnuse ' 07:12 magnuse @wunder boo 07:12 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 8.0�C (8:50 AM CEST on October 25, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 3.0�C. Windchill: 5.0�C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady). 07:13 sophie_m1 hello magnuse 07:13 magnuse bonjour sophie_m1 07:13 asaurat hi all 07:14 magnuse hi asaurat 07:25 paul_p hello everybody 07:25 paul_p rangi: around ? 07:29 magnuse kia ora paul_p 07:31 paul_p hello magnuse 08:22 magnuse ooh, jransom reporting from india on twitter: "Sun sand mango lassi seafood masala" 08:46 cait hi #koha 09:08 stuartyeates the new note is at https://docs.google.com/document/d/1n8AJTpsfhOYgpER1ZarMfckZZpHHo55OB4DA7uoYU9Q/edit?hl=en_GB 09:09 stuartyeates oops, sorry, wrong channel 09:29 magnuse guten tag cait 09:39 cait hi magnuse :) 09:40 magnuse :-) 09:58 jcamins_away cait: around? 09:59 magnuse 1 year ago today since kohacon10 started! 09:59 cait yep 09:59 cait magnuse: don't make me sad! 10:00 magnuse cait: happy memories! 10:56 kohanew on holding a book on OPAC I am having this error "Sorry, none of these items can be placed on hold." 10:57 kohanew book multiple copies available & showing on OPAC... 10:57 jcamins kohanew: that means you need to adjust your circulation matrix, and add a circ rule to allow the items to be placed on hold. 11:06 kohanew jcamins: many thanks for your help its working now.. 11:07 jcamins Hooray! 11:10 cait jcamins++ 11:11 jcamins @karma 11:11 huginn jcamins: Highest karma: "rangi" (423), "oleonard" (337), and "gmcharlt" (266). Lowest karma: "<!" (-107), "failed" (-67), and "-" (-37). You (jcamins) are ranked 12 out of 1750. 11:11 jcamins Wow! 12 out of 1750? 11:11 jcamins @karma jcamins_away 11:11 huginn jcamins: Karma for "jcamins_away" has been increased 8 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 8. 11:11 jcamins @karma jcamins 11:11 huginn jcamins: Karma for "jcamins" has been increased 105 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 104. 11:12 * jcamins likes the fact that <! has the lowest karma. 11:19 cait :) 11:22 liw @karma liw 11:22 huginn liw: Karma for "liw" has been increased 18 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 18. 11:22 liw I don't even do anything for Koha :) 11:22 liw and I'm still better than XML comments 11:27 cait you are a lot better than the old comments :) 11:27 cait and you started the packages :) 11:28 jcamins liw++ 11:28 cait liw++ 11:28 cait @wunder Reutlingen 11:28 huginn cait: The current temperature in Reutlingen, Germany is 11.2�C (1:27 PM CEST on October 25, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 38%. Dew Point: -3.0�C. Pressure: 28.35 in 959.9 hPa (Steady). 11:43 magnuse liw++ 11:43 magnuse @wunder boo 11:43 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 8.0�C (1:20 PM CEST on October 25, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 3.0�C. Windchill: 5.0�C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady). 11:43 cait @wunder Konstanz 11:43 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 9.2�C (1:39 PM CEST on October 25, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Windchill: 9.0�C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1003.9 hPa (Steady). 11:44 magnuse @wunder stavanger, norway 11:44 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Stavanger, Norway is 12.0�C (1:20 PM CEST on October 25, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 3.0�C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). 11:56 * Oak waves 11:57 cait hi Oak 12:04 magnuse Oak 12:16 oleonard Hi #koha 12:20 * oleonard wonders why his new vendors are being added with null ids 12:23 jcamins oleonard: strong egos? 12:23 oleonard :P 12:24 oleonard So jcamins, are you up to anything fun lately? 12:25 cait oleonard: ouch 12:25 cait oleonard: I filed a bug about search in acq - if you would take a look at that too it would be appreciated 12:26 cait not a lot of people testing acq 12:26 * oleonard dropped the table and re-added it from kohastructure.sql and it seems to work now 12:27 jcamins oleonard: "fun"? Well, I'm in the process of buying an apartment (hopefully). 12:27 jcamins Not so fun. 12:31 jcamins Also some cataloging, which is more fun. :) 12:36 * oleonard is not much of a city boy, so the phrase "buying an apartment" sounds weird 12:36 jcamins It does to me, too. 12:38 magnuse not to me ;-) 12:44 magnuse hiya nengard! 12:45 nengard hello 12:45 wahanui hey, nengard 12:47 Oak magnuse 12:48 magnuse :-) 12:48 Oak hello cait 12:48 Oak :-) 12:48 cait hi Oak :) 12:57 magnuse kia ora trea 13:01 trea hi manguse 13:12 oleonard cait: Did you do any investigation of the SQL generated by an order search? 13:12 cait I am not sure how to do it :( 13:12 cait I checked the logs 13:12 cait but they were empty 13:13 oleonard I get the same results as you: A search from the quick search form works, a search from the advanced search doesn't 13:13 cait oleonard: hm and least you can reproduce 13:13 cait nicole said it worked for her yesterday 13:14 cait but not sure which title search she used 13:14 cait could you update the bug? give it another little push? 13:14 cait this is really annoying 13:14 * oleonard is going to do some more investigation 13:15 cait thx oleonard 13:15 cait are you planning to use acq? 13:15 vfernandes Hi Koha community 13:15 cait i would really appreaciate if you could add your personal touch to the basket groups page 13:15 cait hi vfernandes 13:16 oleonard I've looked at it before, but I was confused about how it worked or what it was supposed to do 13:16 oleonard I'd be happy to look again sometime 13:16 cait I can explain how it works if that helps :) 13:16 cait lots of css in the template 13:18 oleonard If you have AcqCreateItem set to create an item when placing an order and you don't fill out the add item form you get a nasty error 13:18 cait ah 13:18 cait yes 13:18 cait that's old 13:19 cait you need at least an item type 13:19 cait all other things you can leave empty 13:19 cait I keep filing bugs for acq... but noone cares 13:21 vfernandes which is the best way to change the code of one document type that is already in use? 13:22 cait oleonard: bug 495 13:22 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=495 enhancement, P2, ---, paul.poulain, RESOLVED WONTFIX, Omit numbers from marc_word table 13:22 paul_p cait: the good news is that we will start upgrading our customers in 3.6 in the next weeks/months, so we will have to deal with those bugs 13:22 cait bug 4955 13:22 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4955 critical, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW , adding to basket with no item throws error 13:22 oleonard Ah, critical no less :) 13:22 cait paul_p: it's been broken for a long time, I am a bit frustrated 13:22 cait and the prospect of some more weeks/months is not helping :( 13:24 paul_p cait: for this one, we don't face it, because we have default/mandatory values at least for branch field. 13:24 cait our library is quite unhappy with it and I had hoped things would be better with 3.6 - but while testing yesterday and today I find so many things still broken 13:25 paul_p (why would one have AcqCreateItems=ordering and nothing entered as item ?) 13:25 cait bug 6893 13:25 wahanui bug 6893 is, like, evil :( 13:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6893 critical, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW , Order from suggestion does not remove suggestion from 'accepted' list 13:25 cait wahanui botsnack cookie 13:25 wahanui :) 13:25 oleonard paul_p: People don't always want to do things the same way. We shouldn't make assumptions 13:26 cait paul_p: the problem is people forget to enter things 13:26 oleonard ...particularly not when our assumptions can lead to errors. We should always cover error-handling. 13:26 cait paul_p: and, if you have clicked the plus sign, and leave one item form empty... booom! 13:26 paul_p oleonard: I agree. But i'd like to know what is the logic behind it. Sometimes it's also because there's no logic 13:26 cait paul_p: and i don't have to mention that the - (minus) sign that used to be there to remove an accidently added item is broken currently too 13:27 magnuse would it help to make necessary fields mandatory? 13:27 paul_p cait: as I said = in our setup, this cannot happen because the branch is mandatory, so it's filled even if the library enter nothing 13:27 cait paul_p: I can try that for the library, this bug is not so terrible as others 13:28 cait bug 6740 13:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6740 critical, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW , can add items at ordering but not remove items 13:28 oleonard cait: This orders search thing seems to come and go 13:29 oleonard Wow, could it really be that the bug only manifests where there is only one order? 13:29 cait hm 13:30 cait werid but could be the case? 13:30 cait I have a talent for finding things like that 13:34 oleonard No, never mind. With two orders I can find one but not the other 13:35 cait oleonard: same here 13:37 Oak hm, detective work in progress. cool. 13:39 cait oleonard++ :) 13:40 cait Oak: there is another gbsd soon - want to learn how to sign off on things? ;) 13:43 vfernandes there is any script to update the marcxml of biblioitems table after changing one column of biblioitem table directly on the database 13:43 vfernandes ?? 13:46 jcamins vfernandes: not to my knowledge. 13:47 jcamins vfernandes: changing the database directly sounds like a terrible idea, for the record. 13:47 oleonard I don't get it. The query generated by the successful and unsuccessful searches are the same. 13:48 vfernandes jcamins i need to change the code of one document type, so the code must be updated in the biblioitems and items 13:49 jcamins vfernandes: I think you have to write a script to do that. 13:49 vfernandes for items there is a sync_items_in_marc_bib.pl which synchronized the data of items table with the biblioitem marcxml 13:50 vfernandes for biblioitems there isn't nothing to sync the marcxml 13:52 jcamins vfernandes: yes, because editing the database directly would be considered dangerous. 13:52 jcamins vfernandes: I don't think there's any way to do what you want other than writing a script yourself to make the change. 13:53 vfernandes yes i know that is dangerous... 13:53 cait perhaps exporting your marc data and reimportant that would work better? 13:54 vfernandes the itemtype is only used in the following tables of database: biblioitems, items, issuinrules, deletedbiblioitems, deleteditems and itemtypes 13:55 jcamins vfernandes: also, sync_items_in_marc_bib.pl doesn't apply to 3.4 or 3.6. 13:55 jcamins ^^ good idea 13:55 vfernandes i'm using 3.2.6 and UNIMARC so sync_items_in_marc_bib.pl works fine... 13:56 vfernandes i'll do a script to sync the biblioitems info with the marcxml 13:59 oleonard Acquisition.pm builds the order search sql by checking "if ( defined $title )" and "if ( defined $author )" etc. 13:59 vfernandes thanks ppl for the help :) 13:59 oleonard If I change that to "if ($title)", etc. it seems to work. 13:59 cait oleonard: werid 13:59 cait weird even 14:01 oleonard But I'm not sure how the two syntaxes differ technically 14:02 cait me neither :( 14:02 cait google? 14:02 wahanui well, google is not a web browser, it's a search engine company. 14:04 magnuse http://perldoc.perl.org/functions/defined.html 14:05 oleonard cait, I'm guessing it's correct because the SQL generated is correct, omitting the fields which were submitted with no value 14:06 oleonard ...whereas before the SQL included checks on author, isbn, etc even though I didn't submit anything in those fields 14:07 cait that sounds reasonable 14:07 cait oleonard++ 14:07 oleonard the only thing it doesn't explain is why the one query worked and the other didn't 14:08 oleonard I'll update the bug 14:08 cait thank you :) 14:08 cait but no patch with your little change? 14:09 oleonard I can send the patch and hope someone will smack it down if I'm wrong 14:09 cait we have a qa team for that :P 14:10 * oleonard just hates to have his knuckles rapped with a ruler like that 14:12 magnuse http://www.foo.be/docs/tpj/issues/vol4_2/tpj0402-0002.html 14:13 magnuse i *think* that in perl if you have $title = "", then 14:13 magnuse if ( defined $title ) => true 14:13 magnuse if ($title) => false 14:14 magnuse because when it's set to "", it *is* defined, but "" is counted as false 14:14 oleonard http://www.neverworkintheory.org/?p=197 14:14 oleonard "Perl users were unable to write programs more accurately than those using a language designed by chance" 14:14 nengard got a question - did i just find a bug? 14:15 oleonard nengard: Yes. 14:15 nengard I have AllowRenewalLimitOverride set to allow and the renew checkbox is always there 14:15 nengard even if i don't click the override checkbox at the bottom 14:15 nengard and if the book is on hold it never ever gives me the checkbox to renew 14:15 nengard and i don't think i'm making any sense 14:20 * oleonard sends a patch to the patches list and then wonders if he wasn't supposed to 14:21 nengard you're supposed to 14:21 nengard just not signed off patches 14:21 wizzyrea naw, original patches go to the list 14:21 wizzyrea what she said 14:22 cait oleonard: I think new patches is ok, it was only for sign-offs 14:22 magnuse what they said 14:22 nengard hehe 14:22 nengard echo echo echo 14:22 magnuse :-) 14:22 Oak cait, yes! 14:23 wizzyrea nengard: I think that when you go to check out the book to the same patron again, it says "item is on hold, override renew?" 14:23 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7085] Problems with searching for orders in acquisitions <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7085> 14:23 Oak sorry, i was away 14:23 nengard wizzyrea - i'll try - but it used to show a checkbox 14:23 cait yeah, i should read all of it too before answering :) 14:23 wizzyrea i'm not so sure that's true - the checkboxes have always been sketchy 14:24 nengard nope wizzyrea it didn't prompt me to check out anyway 14:24 wizzyrea then yea, it's probably a big 14:24 wizzyrea bug 14:24 wizzyrea not a big bug, just a regular one :P 14:24 Oak a big bug 14:24 * wizzyrea stops talking. 14:24 Oak oh okay 14:24 nengard Bug 7088 reported 14:24 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7088 major, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , renewal overriding funky 14:24 nengard sorry the title isn't better 14:24 wizzyrea hehe 14:25 nengard i have no idea how to describe this 14:25 wizzyrea we all need some funky in our lives. 14:25 wizzyrea http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDZFf0pm0SE 14:25 wizzyrea with extra funk 14:26 oleonard In order to test, one of the items I have checked out should be on hold for someone else? 14:26 * magnuse prefers http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyvxHL5hLfE 14:27 wizzyrea lol 14:27 wizzyrea that is beyond my imagination. 14:27 magnuse heh 14:28 wizzyrea where's trea, he would love that. 14:29 trea mmm? 14:29 wizzyrea click that last link from magnuse 14:29 oleonard nengard: The bug happens when I'm in circ, looking at a checked-out item which is on hold for someone else? 14:29 nengard yes 14:30 trea *thumbs up* 14:30 wizzyrea with AllowRenewalLimitOverride on 14:30 magnuse yay 14:30 oleonard nengard: And then what? 14:30 oleonard Oh, I check "override renewal limit" and the checkbox doesn't appear? 14:31 nengard i was reading things a big wrong - i thought the 0 (zero) was saying no renewals allowed - but it was saying renewed 0 times ? let me update the bug 14:32 nengard bug 7088 14:32 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7088 major, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , cannot renew items on hold even with override 14:32 nengard real title now :) 14:32 cait oleonard++ 14:32 magnus_afk oleonard++ 14:33 hdl anyone having that kind of message on install : 14:33 hdl !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 14:33 hdl ERROR: Cannot copy 'misc/translator/' to 'blib/INTRANET_TMPL_DIR/prog/fr-FR/js/tinymce/jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-undecided.gif': est un dossier 14:33 hdl !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 14:33 hdl ? 14:34 cait hm 14:34 cait running the translate install command? 14:35 cait I had tested a new install for german that seemed working nicely 14:35 magnus_afk never seen that 14:36 magnus_afk trying to copy a folder to a gif? weird! 14:36 * magnus_afk wanders off 14:38 hdl cait: no: it is only a make install. 14:38 hdl Which goes wild. 14:39 hdl (dev install) But it should work 14:39 hdl and it crash. 14:42 cait hmm 14:42 cait but make does not take care of translations I think? 14:44 slef magnus_afk wants people to use Google :( 14:45 slef (GBSD email) 14:45 * magnus_afk said "or something" and is always open to better suggestions 14:46 oleonard google works fine for people who use google 14:46 wizzyrea any thoughts on what would cause an entry in reserves to have no biblionumber and no itemnumber? 14:46 nengard deleting the bib record and item record after the hold was placed? 14:46 nengard no ? i guess that wouldn't touch the reserves table 14:47 wizzyrea even things with status like "waiting?!" 14:47 nengard hmmm 14:47 wizzyrea oh, the ones that have no bib# but are waiting have an itemnumber 14:47 nengard yeah seems unlikely 14:48 wizzyrea I have 72 of these such entries in my database 14:48 wizzyrea many since coming on to 3.3 14:48 wizzyrea all but 4, actually 14:49 oleonard I don't see any in our production database 14:49 wizzyrea hmm 14:49 slef magnus_afk: yeah, you suggest a closed tool, which most FOSS users don't know exactly what it does, so pushing them into the alternatives trap. :( 14:50 wizzyrea deleting a bib could do it I guess 14:51 wizzyrea wow that's a mystery 14:55 magnus_afk slef: what would you recommend, then?? 14:56 slef magnus_afk: I don't know what you're trying to do! 14:56 slef magnus_afk: see email reply. 14:56 wizzyrea hangout is multi user video conferencing. 14:57 wizzyrea VOIP 14:57 wizzyrea + video 14:58 libsysguy i love using hangout 15:03 wizzyrea i'm not aware of a similar open solution 15:03 wizzyrea but if anyone could find one, it would be slef :) 15:03 slef jitsi? 15:05 wizzyrea requires a client, hangout is web based, but a good alternative to skype for sure 15:05 slef I didn't think web browsers could read video yet? 15:06 slef there is a similar open protocol (multi-user jingle) which I'm sure Google could complete relatively quickly, but they've done their own private system first. 15:06 slef Oh wait... is hangout part of Google+? 15:07 libsysguy yeah it is slef 15:07 slef Oh well, that's something. I thought they'd launched a second Google video conferencing system for a few minutes there. 15:08 libsysguy haha yeah you should try it out...its actually really cool...i run it on my phone sometimes 15:08 libsysguy works better than facetime :p 15:08 slef I'll be quite surprised if hangout doesn't require a flash client to send video. 15:08 wizzyrea java maybe? 15:08 wizzyrea it's been a while since I set it up 15:08 libsysguy its their own driver-ish install 15:09 libsysguy works off the same thing gtalk video does 15:09 libsysguy where you can chat in gamil 15:09 slef point is, all the video-sending tools need clients 15:09 libsysguy gmail* 15:10 oleonard Weird, I can't find a previous state where that "override renewal limit" checkbox worked even though I know it did 15:11 paul_p oleonard: rel_3_8 is here ;-) 15:11 paul_p (instead of Rel_3_8) 15:11 oleonard :D 15:11 * paul_p discovering the admin section of bugzilla. Handy and powerfull... 15:13 wizzyrea bugzilla does a ton of stuff 15:14 paul_p wizzyrea: yep, i'm playing with versions ;-) 15:14 paul_p (all ENH attached to master instead of rel_3_8. Will be switched to 3_8 once they are pushed) 15:14 wizzyrea hm, with jitsi, you have to have or know a SIP service to connect to 15:14 wizzyrea to do video or voip 15:20 ago Hi #koha! My name is Albert Oller and I've just joined Bywater Solutions. I don't know anything yet, but I hope to be contributing soon. 15:20 reiveune bye 15:20 slef wizzyrea: sure, but we all have one, right? ;-) (if not, iptel.org and voipuser.org are two) 15:20 Danielle \o 15:20 wizzyrea hi ago 15:20 wizzyrea slef: I'd guess fewer of us have one than have a google plus account :P 15:21 wizzyrea (do note, I'm not arguing with you really - of course we should prefer open solutions. Sometimes it's just not *practical*) 15:23 Danielle ago: Congratulations! 15:24 * Danielle gets her references off to her new employer. 15:24 slef wizzyrea: probably. Because many Open Source users are frogs who happily keep sitting in the water ;-) 15:24 slef Danielle: references or referees? 15:27 Danielle slef: Sometimes it feels like both. 15:28 oleonard Welcome, ago 15:29 Danielle The list consists of a coworker, my manager at my last employer, and my current manager. My new employer requires that at least two of the references be current or former managers. 15:32 cait agi: hi and welcome :) 15:33 cait hm ago.. sorry 15:34 oleonard Danielle: So no stealth job changes eh? 15:34 slef Danielle: yeah, I'd call them referees. What they send are references. 15:34 wizzyrea i wish there was something like catchfree.com for FOSS projects 15:34 wizzyrea is there one? 15:35 Danielle slef: True enough. 15:35 Danielle oleonard: That has double meaning for me... :) 15:38 slef wizzyrea: not as flashy but FSF/UNESCO directory, freshmeat, maybe alternativeto.net (but free there = cost-free) 15:38 wizzyrea yea I just looked at alternativeto 15:39 wizzyrea i like the ratings thing on catchfree.com, handy 15:39 ago <cait>: I've been called worse. 15:41 * oleonard has never heard the name Oller before 15:43 cait <cait>? 15:43 cait it sounds a bit german :) 15:47 cait ok, have to leave :) bye all! 15:49 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6894] Order from suggestion defaulting to wrong currency <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6894> 15:55 nengard um ? did someone close the ticket on patron attributes not being editable/addable? I can't find it anymore 16:00 slef @query patron attributes 16:00 huginn slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2847 normal, P1, ---, oleonard, NEW , Use HTML escape in templates where appropriate 16:00 huginn slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4418 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Enable required option for patron attributes 16:00 huginn slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5272 minor, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , can't import just patron attributes 16:00 nengard nevermind 16:00 nengard found it 16:00 huginn slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6891 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , LDIF interoperability - a proposal 16:00 huginn slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5161 major, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , patron attributes clearing if error 16:00 nengard slef it was closed 16:00 nengard http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6930 16:00 huginn 04Bug 6930: critical, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, RESOLVED FIXED, can't add patron attributes anymore 16:00 slef was it fixed? 16:28 nengard slef yes, sorry 16:30 slef ok, cool 16:33 francharb bye 17:04 oleonard Bug 5083 isn't valid anymore is it, given that we no longer bundle all languages? (isn't that right?) 17:04 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5083 normal, P5, ---, chris, NEW , Some source files lack on ca-VA tree distribution 18:02 wizzyrea sql report library? 18:02 wahanui sql report library is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/SQL_Reports_Library 18:02 wizzyrea lazy me. 18:02 nengard wizzyrea - i can be even lazier - i have firefox remember my history so all i type is sql and it pops up :) 18:02 wizzyrea hehe 18:10 * oleonard loves the awesome bar 18:10 wizzyrea speak to me of this "awesome bar" 18:11 oleonard It's what Mozilla calls the location bar now that it pulls up history, bookmarks, etc. 18:11 wizzyrea aha 18:12 nengard http://blog.mozilla.com/blog/2008/04/21/a-little-something-awesome-about-firefox-3/ 18:12 nengard i didn't know that either 18:12 wizzyrea huh. "awesome" :) 18:15 slef aka the battery-draining CPU hog ;) 18:16 slef but when you need it, it's a useful feature 18:17 * wizzyrea muppet arms about privacy 18:17 * wizzyrea sits down 18:20 slef heh 18:20 slef I hadn't even thought about the privacy bit 18:20 slef but my computer's relatively secure anyway 18:21 wizzyrea rather like this: http://www.gifmania.co.uk/tv-series/muppet-show/kerm.gif 18:21 jwagner I frankly loathe the "awesome" bar to the extent that the first plugin I loaded was Old Location Bar -- to make it work as it used to. 18:24 slef heh, guess one of my machines needs its git config updating: "The following message to <patches@koha.org> was undeliverable. The reason for the problem: 5.4.7 - Delivery expired (message too old) 'timeout'" 18:24 slef 18:37 cait hi #koha 18:37 wizzyrea wb cait 18:39 oleonard cait, maybe you know the answer to this 18:39 oleonard Bug 5083 isn't valid anymore is it, given that we no longer bundle all languages? (isn't that right?) 18:39 wahanui i already had it that way, oleonard. 18:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5083 normal, P5, ---, chris, NEW , Some source files lack on ca-VA tree distribution 18:39 cait let me read the bus 18:40 cait bug 18:43 cait oleonard: broken po files I think 18:43 cait if you have errors in the po files, not all template files are created 18:43 cait when you run the script 18:43 cait and we still bundle them 18:44 cait the languages :) 18:45 cait ok 18:45 cait correction 18:45 cait we only bundle the po files, not the template files 18:46 cait oleonard: sorry, I just got home, want me to answer on the bug? 18:46 cait if it's 3.0 ther is not much we can do to fix it now 18:46 cait so I would suggest fixing the po files using poedit (we don't have 3.0 on pootle now) 18:47 oleonard If it's necessarily 3.0-related then we can just WONTFIX it. I just wanted to make sure it wasn't still valid for a current version 19:09 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6832] Validation of total > budget in neworderempty <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6832> 19:10 smeagol Does anyone know of a good, cheap cloud to store about 2 terrabytes of data? 19:11 smeagol terabytes 19:11 smeagol terrorbytes? 19:11 wizzyrea hehe 19:13 * oleonard would hesitate to entrust 2 terabytes to anyone described as "cheap" 19:14 cait oleonard: commented 19:14 cait magnuse++ 19:22 rhcl smeagol: a NAS out of the question? I've been pretty happy with our Seagate BlackArmor NAS 440 19:23 rhcl Ubuntu One is good for smaller storage. https://one.ubuntu.com/ 19:37 * wizzyrea has 2TB on her desk, just sayin 19:49 smeagol inexpensive..i should say.. 19:50 rhcl sounded to me like wizzyrea was offering... just sayin 19:50 wizzyrea haha 19:51 wizzyrea it'd cost a lot to get here ;) 19:51 oleonard Just write out the data on a postcard and she'll transcribe it. 19:52 smeagol Yeah, well we're thinking for disaster recovery, put the data in the cloud and forget about it kind of thing.. 19:52 rhcl oh, but write it out in binary for machine efficiency 19:53 smeagol Just found out though that Amazon charges an arm and two legs if you need the data back!!! 19:54 rhcl yea, gotta watch the data transfers w/ Amazon, but really their prices aren't out of line for quality data storage 19:56 smeagol true 19:59 smeagol Guess I'm not looking for the caddilac version..maybe the Buick or Pontiac version... 20:05 wizzyrea lol when did adding the library URL to the library definition make that hotlinkable in the holdings list? 20:05 * wizzyrea discovers something wonderful about koha every day 20:07 oleonard I don't know when it was added... I worked on a related bug recently which brought it to my attention 20:08 wizzyrea it's amazing 20:08 wizzyrea (I don't have them all added yet but LOOKIE: http://catalog.nexpresslibrary.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=144044 ) 20:09 oleonard Of course now your patrons will wonder why that link doesn't point to a map of the stacks 20:09 * wizzyrea facepalm 20:09 wizzyrea s 20:09 wizzyrea but 20:09 wizzyrea it kind of does >.> 20:09 wizzyrea it at least hopefully tells you how to get to that library 20:09 wizzyrea ^.^ 20:11 oleonard Heh, our call numbers used to be all "JE MAR" like that too, back when our ILS came with a data storage limit. 20:12 oleonard Hey my internet connection, should it really take 5 minutes to pull up Bugzilla search results? 20:26 wizzyrea apparently they want the call numbers to fit on the spine? 20:26 wizzyrea it's probably like cutting the end off the ham: that's how they've been told to do it for ever and ever 20:26 wizzyrea "why did you do that?" "because the ham wouldn't fit in my pan!" 20:26 wizzyrea "I always did it because that's what grandma did!" 20:27 wizzyrea (and mom... and auntie em, and... and... and... ) 20:28 oleonard Okay, all done for today. See y'all tomorrow. 20:46 wizzyrea oh zaps can you do news items specific to language too?! That's neat! 20:56 Oak night 20:58 smeagol Someham..over the rainbow... 20:58 bg NateC? 20:58 wahanui I LIKE SPACE AND MY WIFE 20:59 wizzyrea skies are blooooooooo 20:59 bg yay smeagol :) 20:59 bg love the name ;) 20:59 wizzyrea bg? 20:59 wahanui I LIKE BREAKFAST BURRITOS AND I LOVE BASEBALL 20:59 wizzyrea keke 21:01 smeagol Brendan..check this out.. 21:01 smeagol http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/gollum 21:02 wizzyrea O.O 21:02 wizzyrea that is terrifying and amazing. 21:02 bg yeah that's great! 21:02 smeagol thanks 21:02 bg whois smeagol ? 21:28 rhcl [off] (~smeagol@209.212.22.82) has joined #koha 21:29 rhcl [off] ISP of this IP: New Jersey State Library 21:29 rhcl [off] Organization: New Jersey State Library 21:30 bg [off] thanks rhcl - I am curious who is smeagol 21:35 eythian stupid parade 21:35 eythian I got stuck on a stupid bus because stupid roads are closed and the bus driver didn't realise people might want to get off part way along his normal route 21:38 wizzyrea aw 21:38 wizzyrea poor eythian 21:38 eythian I know! 21:39 cait poor eythian 21:40 eythian kill -SIGBUS -1 21:40 wizzyrea keke 21:45 Danielle o/ 23:56 jenkins_koha Starting build 54 for job Koha_3.4.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #50 17 j ago)