Time  Nick         Message
23:38 jransom      Irma where are you staying and what day do you arrive?
23:34 jcamins_away Irma: depending on your accent, that's "good morning" in Arabic, too.
23:29 Irma         jransom Bon voyage and see you in Thane!
23:18 Irma         jransom very excited too and also very excited that we have now all our hosted libraries upgraded to Koha 3.4.5 :-) by CALYX's clever team!
23:16 wahanui      i think you is ketchup Oak's friend, you!
23:16 jransom      you?
23:16 jransom      but mostly excited
23:16 jransom      yes
23:16 Irma         jransom how are you? Getting nervous?
23:15 Irma         = goodmorning in Farsi
23:15 Irma         Subbakhair jransom
23:15 jransom      Hi Jidit
23:14 jransom      Hi Irma
22:52 Judit        eythian thank you
22:51 Judit        good morning
22:34 * rangi      heads out to explore more
22:06 Brooke       hooray for done presos
22:06 phlunk3      now you've got me thinking of water slides
22:06 phlunk3      :(
22:06 rangi        presentation ones
22:05 phlunk3      fun slides, or, presentation slides?
22:05 rangi        slides all finished yay!
22:04 anitsirk     hehe. i know it's not hard. i just don't have it in my auto-join list. should set it up though.
22:02 Brooke       eggsellent
22:02 cait         anitsirk: it's not hard, log in, eat some virtual cookies... fridays are especially nice
22:01 anitsirk     Brooke: we are looking into that. that's actually how rangi learned about it b/c we talked to the mozilla people first :-)
22:01 Brooke       also, if you were to tie Mahara to a badge system = win.
22:01 anitsirk     hi Brooke
22:01 Brooke       you can make amends
22:01 anitsirk     oh cool. sorry that i don't hang out here much at all.
22:00 Brooke       DUDE anitsirk! <3
22:00 cait         from the student that asked about elearning and koha - met him at an event last month
22:00 cait         and I have to deliver a 'thank you'
22:00 cait         you should hang out on #koha more often
21:59 cait         fine :) finally got some testing done
21:59 anitsirk     hi wizzyrea
21:59 wizzyrea     heya anitsirk
21:59 anitsirk     hey cait. how are you?
21:59 cait         finally!
21:59 cait         hi anitsirk :)
21:59 anitsirk     i have a question for you in private :')
21:59 anitsirk     hi rangi .
21:59 rangi        hi phlunk3
21:58 rangi        its anitsirk !
21:58 phlunk3      o/
21:47 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6390 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, ef, ASSIGNED , Basket only visible for librarian who created it
21:47 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7044 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, ASSIGNED , branch selector in OPAC not selecting
21:47 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bumping database version
21:47 jenkins_koha * jonathan.druart: Bug 6390: Implement 'see mine/my branches/all baskets'-syspref
21:47 jenkins_koha * nengard: Follow up for Bug 6390: Add upatedatabase.pl
21:47 jenkins_koha * jonathan.druart: Bug 6390: Implement 'see mine/my branches/all baskets'-syspref
21:47 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 7044 OPAC Branch Selector Fix
21:47 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #485: STILL UNSTABLE in 48 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/485/
21:40 jransom      heya cait
21:40 jransom      going to start wearing Goa clothes to work tomorrow - just to get in the groove ....
21:40 * Brooke     definitely did not just squeal like a wee girl.
21:40 cait         hi jransom :)
21:40 wizzyrea     :D
21:39 Brooke       eeeeeeeeee
21:38 jransom      only 4 more sleeps (just sayin)
21:37 maximep      weird :S
21:37 cait         I could go back and check the logs, if that helps
21:37 cait         I am not sure what caused it
21:37 cait         it works now after switching away from this branch
21:36 maximep      I just don't understand 404 - file not found
21:36 maximep      haha
21:36 cait         maximep: and you want me to retest that? ;)
21:36 kathryn      hi cait : )
21:36 cait         hi kathryn :)
21:36 kathryn      hello rangi!!
21:36 maximep      too many names on that list to remember any =)
21:36 rangi        hey kathryn
21:35 wahanui      rumour has it irc regulars is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Regulars
21:35 wizzyrea     irc regulars?
21:35 maximep      I wasn't =)
21:35 cait         maximep: you are aware I am one and the same?
21:35 cait         oh
21:35 cait         I am still here you know :)
21:35 cait         hm?
21:33 maximep      oh man, I should have removed those stupid sys-tech comments before sending that patch
21:33 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6943 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, pelletiermaxime, ASSIGNED , Create new budget from a copy of a previous budget
21:33 maximep      how could kf get a 404 from my patch on bug 6943. It seems impossible to me :S
21:30 rhcl         IFLA
21:30 rhcl         2012 - Helsinki, FI   <$2500 for hotel, flight car
21:15 Brooke       someday, when my ship comes in, I'll make it to IFLA
21:07 hdl          back in 2005 or 2006
21:07 hdl          For IFLA preconference
21:07 rangi        ahh cool
21:07 hdl          It was a great time.
21:07 hdl          even before... In Dakar.
21:06 rangi        you met her at code4lib eh?
21:05 hdl          say hi to Bess
21:03 rangi        yeah some interesting topics, i think it will be a fun conference
21:03 hdl          It looks pretty good
21:03 hdl          hope you have a nice time there.
21:02 rangi        im on thursday at 2.30
21:01 rangi        hdl: http://access2011.library.ubc.ca/schedule/
20:59 jenkins_koha Starting build 485 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #483 2 j 13 h ago)
20:58 jenkins_koha srdjan: bug_5533: Slightly improved marking items as lost
20:58 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #484: UNSTABLE in 48 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/484/
20:58 cait         but still thx!
20:58 cait         it is a bit scary :)
20:58 pastebot     "hdl" at 83.43.165.93 pasted "paste of all the patches to be sent by BibLibre on acquisition" (339 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/91
20:57 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Bumping database version <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1ffdbfa5e9c3f4d63244f0897ac9b8f5eb1177d2> / Merge remote-tracking branch 'kc/new/bug_6390' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f2794f79342e48bc433f0d56ea8baf5ef0bba526> / Bug 6390: Implement 'see mine/my branches/all baskets'-syspref <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdi
20:57 cait         hdl: didn't get a notice from pastebot
20:56 cait         hdl: sorry, did you send me a link?
20:56 hdl          the pastebot...
20:55 cait         hdl - which list?
20:55 cait         ?
20:55 hdl          cait: hope that the list sent on the chan doesnot scare you.
20:54 hdl          rangi: talking of ?
20:54 Brooke       Europeans up late today :D
20:54 hdl          hi Brooke
20:51 * Brooke     cheers Rangi on
20:51 Brooke       :D
20:50 rangi        ok thats a few patches pushed, time to finish off my slides
20:46 sekjal       okay, all, I'm going to get some rest before I start doing sloppy QA.  have a good <<localtime>>
20:45 Brooke       hey cait
20:45 cait         hi Brooke :)
20:45 Brooke       damien
20:45 Brooke       hi henri
20:44 Brooke       0/
20:27 huginn       moodaepo: The current temperature in MSU Physics Dept, Mankato, Minnesota is 13.0�C (3:25 PM CDT on October 17, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 1.0�C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011.1 hPa (Falling).
20:27 moodaepo     @wunder 56001
20:26 ibeardslee   all news I can find just talks about the semi
20:23 ibeardslee   thought I saw something about him being back .. but would need to go diggin to confirm either way
20:23 rangi        he is the only player i really worry about in the australian team
20:22 rangi        yeah that would have been great
20:22 rangi        is beale still out?
20:22 ibeardslee   I just think of what it would do for world rugby if the welsh had got into the final and pushed the ABs
20:21 rangi        lost ot ireland, scraped past SA (with the help of the ref)
20:21 rangi        i think wales can take them
20:21 rangi        altho, they are pretty crap
20:21 rangi        yeah
20:20 ibeardslee   I feel sorry for the Welsh, because the Aussies will have something to prove
20:20 rangi        night magnuse
20:20 magnuse      g'night #koha
20:19 rangi        i hear they played well tho
20:19 rangi        couldnt find it on tv here
20:18 ibeardslee   rangi: have you seen the replay of Sunday's game?
20:18 huginn       magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 8.0�C (9:50 PM CEST on October 17, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 5.0�C. Windchill: 5.0�C. Pressure: 29.47 in 998 hPa (Steady).
20:18 magnuse      @wunder boo
20:17 rangi        id guess 16
20:17 rangi        it feels a lot warm than 12
20:17 huginn       New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7049] Item form on order receive has lots of blank space <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7049>
20:17 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7044 OPAC Branch Selector Fix <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5938eb306acc2668b00178d88f319ad18c93e775>
20:17 huginn       sekjal: The current temperature in Mark's Porch Rose Village, Vancouver, Washington is 13.8�C (1:15 PM PDT on October 17, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 9.0�C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026.0 hPa (Steady).
20:16 sekjal       @wunder vancouver WA
20:16 huginn       sekjal: The current temperature in Vancouver, British Columbia is 12.0�C (1:00 PM PDT on October 17, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 30.45 in 1031 hPa (Falling).
20:16 sekjal       @wunder vancouver, BC
20:16 huginn       cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 8.0�C (10:00 PM CEST on October 17, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Pressure: 30.23 in 1024 hPa (Falling).
20:16 cait         @wunder Konstanz
20:16 huginn       cait: Error: No such location could be found.
20:16 cait         @wunder vancouver
20:16 cait         and a lot warmer than here
20:16 cait         yep
20:15 magnuse      looks nice!
20:12 rangi        (taken on my phone so not super good quality)
20:12 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7049 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, NEW , Item form on order receive has lots of blank space
20:12 cait         bug 7049
20:12 rangi        http://www.flickr.com/photos/ranginui/
20:12 cait         so someone up to sign off my nice and shiny new patch?
20:11 cait         dedicated
20:11 cait         yep :)
20:11 cait         rangi++
20:11 magnuse      not lame, dedicated!
20:11 magnuse      rangi++
20:11 rangi        in my defense my legs are tired
20:10 rhcl         I am envious.
20:10 jenkins_koha Starting build 484 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
20:09 rangi        yes, i am lame, i am pushing patches in a cafe in vancouver
20:07 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: bug_5533: Slightly improved marking items as lost <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4770555855930e45eeaedd1e25a9a39af0861604>
19:50 cait         is there a branch you suspect?
19:49 cait         perhaps I could pick some of them
19:49 cait         hm ok
19:49 hdl          rather
19:49 hdl          :(
19:49 hdl          yes... acq do search on biblios ;)
19:49 cait         hm solr in acq?
19:49 hdl          cait: we have many... But based on solr.
19:49 maximep      hey =)
19:48 cait         hi maximep :)
19:48 cait         perhaps someoe from biblibre could check if oyu have patches for those?
19:48 maximep      i mean 6963
19:48 maximep      he's working on it btw
19:48 cait         lots of small things
19:48 cait         hdl: I keep filing bugs for acq the last days
19:47 hdl          your comment is ok.
19:47 cait         not sure I understand :) but I think he will resubmit
19:46 hdl          "best practise"
19:46 hdl          cait: no... I meant, it is not dev friendly to have to comment on those things and ask to abide to more... and undocumented best practise....
19:36 cait         you can always add a more technical comment :)
19:36 cait         or the patch itself?
19:36 cait         my comment?
19:35 hdl          not really developer friendly.... I hope he will be able to resubmit
19:30 cait         and kept it failed qa
19:30 cait         hdl: I added a note to the bug that it should check the mappings
19:27 hdl          unless we are using a json for MARC structure, i think things wil get harder and harder with jscript lurking everywhere...
19:26 hdl          )
19:26 hdl          (would be more general and not require a If UNIMARC....
19:26 hdl          should be a template variable and use GetMarcFromKohaField('items.barcode',....)
19:25 cait         not the patch...
19:25 cait         hm on the bug
19:25 cait         thx!
19:25 cait         :)
19:25 cait         I will note on the patch
19:25 cait         ok
19:25 hdl          cait yes.
19:23 huginn       04Bug 6963: normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, fcapovilla, ASSIGNED , When creating a new order, the item isn't added if its barcode already exists in the items table.
19:23 cait         http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6963
19:23 cait         it seems it's hardcoded to p - but I think barcode in unimarc is f?
19:22 cait         and wondered if it's hardcoded to marc21
19:22 hdl          hi
19:22 cait         I awas looking at 6963 again
19:22 * hdl        not a javascript ninja, but maybe can help
19:22 cait         hi hdl :)
19:22 hdl          cait: ?
19:20 sekjal       black squirrels are a favourite around here
19:18 cait         if noone for unimarc? :)
19:18 cait         ok, someone speaking javascript?
19:18 cait         magnuse: good argument
19:17 cait         more happy exploring :)
19:17 rangi        cyas again later
19:16 rangi        ok this place is packed gonna go wander a bit more
19:16 magnuse      well, could they be ninjas if you saw them?
19:15 cait         sounds reasonable :)
19:15 rangi        im pretty sure they are ninjas
19:15 rangi        yeah black ones
19:13 cait         ninja squirrels? :)
19:13 rangi        saw otters, an eagle, totem poles, lots of ninja squirrels
19:13 * cait       waves back
19:13 rangi        around stanley park
19:13 rhcl         In Korean the plurals are frequently optional.
19:12 rangi        tired now, walked for about 5 hours
19:12 * trea       waves to rangi
19:12 * magnuse    waves to rangi
19:11 rangi        lots of free wifi in this city
19:11 * rangi      waves hi from some food court in vancouver
19:09 cait         francharb_away: ?
19:08 cait         a unimarc person around? :)
19:08 cait         are another suspect to check
19:08 wahanui      messaging tables are quite a bit complicated, but could be extended I guess
19:08 cait         messaging tables
19:08 cait         ah
19:07 magnuse      i'll backup the db and give it a try ;-)
19:06 magnuse      nope, very simple patron data
19:06 cait         if yes, you will want to check if those delete with the borrower I think
19:05 cait         ?
19:05 cait         in use
19:05 cait         patron attributes on use?
19:05 cait         hm
19:02 magnuse      hm, someone imported the same csv file of patrons twice - none of the patrons has been "used" yet - is it as simple as deleting the last set from the borrowers table, or would that miss anything in other tables?
18:55 wizzyrea     as in, apply brute force with great speed.
18:55 wizzyrea     unique in a "i want to hit it" kind of way. And not hit it in the vernacular sense, in the literal sense.
18:54 chris_n      bye
18:54 wizzyrea     later :)
18:54 francharb    ;)
18:54 francharb    see ya
18:54 chris_n      np
18:54 francharb    it's late, i need to go now!
18:54 francharb    thanks!
18:54 chris_n      in a not so nice sorta way
18:54 wizzyrea     :)
18:54 francharb    ;)
18:54 * wizzyrea   agrees
18:54 francharb    so expect me to forget some 's'
18:54 * chris_n    thinks english grammar tends to be a bit unique
18:53 francharb    plus i will be speaking
18:53 francharb    you re rigth
18:53 wizzyrea     but people will know what you mean
18:53 chris_n      good catch
18:53 wizzyrea     (well, strictly speaking, if you added one permission it would be "a permission." If multiple permissions, "permissions")
18:52 francharb    hope i will see you there ;)
18:52 francharb    thanks!
18:52 francharb    great!
18:52 chris_n      +1
18:52 wizzyrea     that looks perfect to me
18:52 francharb    So we added permission to allow the librarian to be able to manage budgets, orders, receiving and claims in a centralised way
18:52 francharb    and what about this one?
18:52 wizzyrea     yw :)
18:52 francharb    great thank you
18:51 wizzyrea     or when you receive the item -> would also work
18:51 chris_n      that sounds fine to me
18:51 francharb    You can either choose to create your items at the basket level when you place your order, or at the receiving level.
18:50 wizzyrea     what's the whole sentence?
18:50 chris_n      so just 'receiving'
18:50 chris_n      francharb: english would not use the definite article there
18:49 francharb    i make sense to me
18:49 francharb    can we just say 'the receiving'?
18:49 wahanui      it has been said that acquisitions is complicated because booksellers all make their own rules :)
18:49 wizzyrea     acquisitions?
18:49 francharb    and i'm note sure of the way we say the receiving process
18:48 francharb    i'm preparing my presentation for kohacon
18:48 wizzyrea     go ahead :)
18:48 wizzyrea     hehe
18:48 chris_n      hehe
18:48 francharb    sorry
18:48 chris_n      what language is that?
18:48 francharb    i got an english question
18:48 libsysguy    ehy francharb
18:48 francharb    how are you doing
18:48 libsysguy    yayy chris_n
18:48 wizzyrea     hey, at least I didn't get out the trout
18:48 francharb    hey guys
18:47 wizzyrea     woot!
18:47 chris_n      I'm there now
18:47 * chris_n    pokes wizzyrea back
18:47 * libsysguy  hates it when he writes code and comes back a week later only to be confused by his own brilliance
18:47 huginn       magnuse: Not yet - wait 5 days
18:47 wahanui      i think @arewethereyet is counting down the days until release
18:47 magnuse      @arewethereyet
18:46 libsysguy    haha oh wizzy
18:45 wizzyrea     I poke as much as I wanna!
18:45 libsysguy    wizzyrea didn't we talk about poking people :p
18:45 * chris_n    goes to look
18:44 chris_n      ouch
18:44 * wizzyrea   pokes chris_n
18:44 wizzyrea     well and he's not on there ANYWAY
18:44 wizzyrea     hehe
18:44 libsysguy    idk why I didn't look for chris_n
18:44 wahanui      chris_n: huh?
18:44 chris_n      wahanui got up on the wrong side of the bed this morning it appears :-)
18:44 libsysguy    wizzyrea: i just added myself to that
18:44 magnuse      resluts?
18:43 wizzyrea     hi :)
18:43 wahanui      I LIKE BAO or all about the resluts
18:43 chris_n      hey wizzyrea
18:43 chris_n      we run Koha in our library
18:43 wahanui      somebody said irc regulars was at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Regulars
18:43 wizzyrea     irc regulars?
18:43 chris_n      I head up IT for a small Bible college
18:42 libsysguy    do you work for a library or someone else?
18:42 libsysguy    heh sounds like where I grew up
18:42 chris_n      blink and you'll miss it :-)
18:41 chris_n      just outside of Benson
18:41 libsysguy    small town?
18:41 chris_n      toward the east
18:41 chris_n      about 30 mins from Raleigh
18:41 libsysguy    oh cool :)
18:41 chris_n      libsysguy: NC, USA
18:41 chris_n      you can have some too, cait :-)
18:40 libsysguy    chris_n I always see you around but never found out where you are from
18:40 libsysguy    aww thanks chris_n
18:39 * chris_n    hands libsysguy a box of dark chocolate candies and a cup of strong coffee
18:37 libsysguy    i just got done with a bout with OOPerl so im a little bitter
18:34 cait         could be
18:34 chris_n      maybe my tendency toward OO Perl explains it all ;-)
18:33 cait         made me laugh :)
18:33 cait         oleonard++ for ie tweet
18:33 libsysguy    chris_n: why in the world would you be trying to get windows to work...thats almost as futile as programming in OOPerl :p
18:31 oleonard     Windows and labels... chris_n is a glutton for punishment.
18:09 cait         and hiya chris_n :)
18:09 cait         hehe
18:09 * chris_n    will now run and hide
18:08 chris_n      the working installation should be a repeatable experiment now
18:08 * chris_n    pushes his MSWin32 branch and updates the wiki page
18:08 chris_n      heya cait
18:03 cait         hi #koha
17:59 libsysguy    but not to fines
17:59 libsysguy    oh yes and my own personal little enhancement
17:59 libsysguy    sekjal the only real change I had to make after colin fixed my one issue is the frequency in which I ran fines
17:55 sekjal       libsysguy:  in your experience, how has this code changed the behaviour of fines.pl cron?
17:51 chris_n      hmm... its back now
17:48 * chris_n    wonders if the wiki is down everywhere or just in his slice of reality
17:41 libsysguy    I always had to communicate though him though the bug report...what a drag lol
17:40 sekjal       sometimes, yes
17:39 libsysguy    does he ever come on here
17:38 sekjal       yeah... I'm wondering if Colin is working off the same spec as is on the wiki
17:38 libsysguy    the checkHighHolds function definitely references the new Koha::Calendar module so I know it has to be something they were doing either in prep for the change over or just for houlry
17:37 sekjal       from the bug report, it looks like Colin had some code he was working on, too, and it all got mashed together
17:36 libsysguy    oh...hmm for some reason I thought it was PTFS Europe
17:35 sekjal       libsysguy:  Catalyst was working on it
17:32 libsysguy    Was Colin the only devel on this?
17:32 sekjal       yeah, no doubt an interesting and potentially valuable feature
17:31 libsysguy    although I can see it being very useful for hourly loans
17:31 libsysguy    indeed it does...I didn't write it *maintains innoncence*
17:31 sekjal       ..okay, interesting, but that seems like an entirely different feature
17:30 libsysguy    ok so if there are 20 holds on an item...the next person to get the item would acutally have a shorter checkout period than the one defined int eh circualtion rules becuase of the number of people wanting the item
17:29 libsysguy    heh
17:29 sekjal       not yet
17:29 libsysguy    does that make sense
17:29 libsysguy    and how long you can checkout
17:29 libsysguy    I think...
17:29 libsysguy    to see how many times you are allowed to renew
17:28 libsysguy    that function checks to see the frequency in which holds are being placed
17:28 libsysguy    ohhh
17:27 sekjal       references a couple sysprefs I can't find
17:27 sekjal       new C4::Circulation subroutine, CheckHighHolds
17:27 libsysguy    I haven't run across that
17:27 sekjal       :)  yes
17:27 libsysguy    I'm assuming your refering to Koha :p
17:26 sekjal       libsysguy:  what's a High Hold?
17:21 kf           bye all, see you later for more testing fun :)
17:21 libsysguy    and hopefully attract some more academic libraries
17:21 libsysguy    and it will give other libraries the chance to test it
17:20 libsysguy    that way it is in master and can be easily maintained and worked on without it falling behind again
17:20 libsysguy    I think that would be a good idea
17:19 sekjal       if I can verify that the modifications so far can be safely ignored with some set of configurations, then we can mark this as a limited, experimental feature for now, and continue to build on it in parts
17:19 libsysguy    understandable
17:18 sekjal       I was hoping that the code so far was.... further along.
17:18 sekjal       I suppose that's one way to approach it
17:16 libsysguy    why not tackle all the cases in the rfc as individual enhancements?
17:16 libsysguy    but it does add (basically) everything we needed here to get houly loans running
17:15 sekjal       it doesn't seem to implement much of the RFC at all
17:14 libsysguy    but im probably off base
17:14 libsysguy    its already a massive patch that needs a lot of tweaking
17:14 libsysguy    I was really viewing this as a basline for hourly loans
17:13 libsysguy    thats how it is now yes
17:12 sekjal       libsysguy:  so your 1 hour loan materials are due EXACTLY 60 minutes after they're checked out, even if you're closed at that time?
17:11 libsysguy    maybe I am a little confused but I thought we wanted to break this down some
17:10 libsysguy    yeah I really don't think it is included...you might ask Colin
17:08 libsysguy    hmm
17:07 sekjal       there is a big section of the RFC on how to handle various situations around library closed times
17:06 libsysguy    i think it does a calculation based on the checkout time
17:06 sekjal       that's necessary for figuring out due times.
17:05 libsysguy    i haven't seen it
17:05 libsysguy    I'm not sure that option is provided yet
17:04 sekjal       the calendar doesn't seem any different to me
17:04 sekjal       libsysguy:  where do I set library hours?
16:58 libsysguy    frustrating
16:58 libsysguy    1 hour instead of 1 hours
16:58 libsysguy    yeah I've submitted with incorrect terms
16:57 sekjal       in the event the form gets submitted with invalid terms
16:57 sekjal       and a little logic on the backend to provide a default value
16:57 sekjal       should be.  just something on the Template level
16:56 libsysguy    i didn't want to fix that until after it was in...should be a simple change
16:56 libsysguy    ugh I know
16:56 sekjal       first problem I'm seeing:  unit type is free text
16:56 sekjal       yes, I've got your reconciled code, and I'm working on adding values to Circ Rules now
16:55 libsysguy    so you were able to pull ok?
16:55 libsysguy    most excellent
16:55 sekjal       which, btw, is actually going pretty well
16:55 libsysguy    gotcha
16:55 sekjal       if I encounter any strangeness, I should be sure it's definitely coming from Hourly Loans, not possibly from my mod_perl testing
16:55 sekjal       libsysguy1:  scientific method
16:52 libsysguy1   sorry i seem to be late on that one
16:51 libsysguy1   sekjal why should you turn off mod perl
16:35 * kf         sends more cookies
16:35 * sekjal     should probably turn off mod_perl before testing hourly loans
16:30 kf           typhoid seems to be mean
16:30 kf           you are not the only one
16:30 sekjal       oddly enough
16:30 * sekjal     is feeling increasingly 'blah' since getting shot full of typhoid
16:30 kf           hope that works too - woudl be a nice addition, not easy to test
16:30 kf           ok :)
16:29 sekjal       kf:  I've got 5680 open, but I'm going to get Hourly Loans set up on my test machine first
16:29 kf           that when you delete/cancel orders the items remain
16:29 kf           I think some design work from owen would be good, but it would fix some easy to make mistake
16:29 kf           sekjal: 5680 is the next waiting for qa... the other 2 need more work and testing
16:28 kf           remaining 3...
16:28 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6390 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, ef, ASSIGNED , Basket only visible for librarian who created it
16:28 kf           bug 6390
16:28 kf           but 6390
16:28 kf           one off my list, remaining 4 :)
16:27 kf           yay!
16:26 sekjal       6390 passed
16:23 kf           go team koha! :)
16:23 nengard      :)
16:22 sekjal       go team Koha!
16:21 nengard      thank you for the report help!!
16:18 kf           and thx for your sign-off :)
16:18 kf           ok!
16:18 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6390 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, ef, ASSIGNED , Basket only visible for librarian who created it
16:18 nengard      and i signed off on bug 6390
16:18 nengard      kf - no errors on that one! we'll see if it works for them
16:17 kf           perhaps it's time to leave and go home...
16:15 kf           http://paste.koha-community.org/89
16:15 kf           ugh
16:15 kf           AND time(dt) BETWEEN <<Time BETWEEN (hh:mm)>> AND <<and (hh:mm)>>
16:15 kf           AND DATE(dt)=<<Date>>
16:15 kf           br = "LUBBOK"
16:15 kf           WHERE
16:15 kf           ) as stat_summary
16:15 kf           s2.type not in ('localuse')
16:15 kf           where
16:15 kf           from statistics s2
16:15 kf           SELECT 'returns, issues, renewals' AS action, COUNT(s2.datetime) as count, s2.datetime as dt, s2.branch as br
16:15 kf           union
16:15 kf           where type = "renew"
16:15 kf           -- AND time(datetime) BETWEEN <<Time BETWEEN (hh:mm)>> AND <<and (hh:mm)>>
16:15 kf           -- DATE(statistics.datetime)=<<Date>> and branch="LUBBOCK"
16:15 kf           -- WHERE
16:15 kf           from statistics s1
16:15 kf           (select s1.type AS action, COUNT(s1.datetime) as count, s1.datetime as dt, s1.branch as br
16:15 kf           FROM
16:15 kf           nengard: I named the columns, hope that fixes it SELECT action, count
16:13 kf           I think I got it, sec
16:13 kf           ok
16:11 kf           I forgot to move that back into the right place
16:11 kf           as count...
16:11 kf           I know why
16:11 kf           oh
16:10 kf           confusing
16:09 kf           looking at it
16:08 nengard      branch works in the other queries
16:07 nengard      no - yuh huh - grrrrr
16:07 kf           is yuh huh you fixed it? :)
16:07 nengard      yuh huh
16:07 kf           grr
16:07 nengard      ERROR 1054 (42S22): Unknown column 'stat_summary.branch' in 'where clause'
16:07 kf           stat_summary.datetime - will hopefully work
16:07 kf           stat.summary.datetime
16:06 kf           same
16:06 nengard      hmmm
16:06 nengard      ERROR 1054 (42S22): Unknown column 'branch' in 'where clause'
16:06 kf           and if that does not work, stat_summary.datetime
16:05 kf           make it only datetime
16:05 kf           ah
16:05 nengard      ERROR 1054 (42S22): Unknown column 'statistics.datetime' in 'where clause'
16:04 nengard      was just trying to do that :)
16:04 kf           nengard: moved your conditions outside - http://paste.koha-community.org/88
16:02 kf           sec
16:01 kf           hmhmhm
16:01 kf           read over it and change the conditions a bit perhaps
16:01 kf           can you check the sql? I don't have localuse, so I put in renewal for testing
16:00 nengard      :)
16:00 kf           easy
16:00 kf           oleonard++ nengard++ :)
16:00 nengard      i just tested it :)
16:00 nengard      thanks oleonard
16:00 nengard      :)
15:59 kf           nengard: thx for 7043 :) now you can change the width of that using css! yay! :)
15:59 nengard      will continue to test
15:59 nengard      okey dokey
15:59 kf           but the test plan should still work
15:59 huginn       New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7043] masthead_search id used twice in template <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7043>
15:59 kf           so it might not work now as it is described on the bug
15:58 kf           yes, robin changed something
15:58 kf           ah
15:58 kf           you will always see your own
15:58 kf           ?
15:58 kf           superlibrarian = your own userß
15:58 kf           http://paste.koha-community.org/87 perhaps like this?
15:55 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6390 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, ef, ASSIGNED , Basket only visible for librarian who created it
15:55 nengard      and question about bug 6390 - i'm on MASTER right now and I am logged in as a librarian with aquisitions permissions (not superlibrarian) but before applying the patch I see the basket created by the superlibrarian with no problems ?.
15:54 nengard      yes kf
15:54 Brooke       0/
15:52 kf           the renewals, issues and returns?
15:52 kf           and all others summed together?
15:52 nengard      doesn't matter to me what order it's in - first row is localuse - second is all others
15:50 kf           ok, first row should be what?
15:50 kf           to make it display
15:50 kf           I think you could do a union
15:50 kf           no localuse value yet
15:50 kf           I have issue, renew and return
15:50 kf           ah
15:49 nengard      now it shows a count from localuse in one row, issue in another, renew in another, etc etc
15:48 nengard      They would like to see one row with the count of statistics.type=localuse and one with the sum of count from statitics.type renew, issue, return
15:48 kf           can you rephrase the question?
15:47 kf           hm
15:47 nengard      "nengard" at 98.114.30.184 pasted "possible to edit?" (10 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/86
15:47 kf           nengard: shoot :)
15:47 kf           hmpf :)
15:47 kf           waah! not to mention I have to finish an important project at work this week
15:46 kf           the basket permissions thing I asked nicole to test, christophe's patch for deleting/cancelling orders, barcode on receive (have to retest the new patch from srdjan) and a patch for overdues that has an untested follow-up
15:46 pastebot     "nengard" at 98.114.30.184 pasted "possible to edit?" (10 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/86
15:46 nengard      actually kf - more urgent need - report help
15:46 kf           I have 4 on my wish list...
15:45 kf           (15:29:48) rangi: but the other 6 ill push, and will evalutate any more that get passed qa between now an wednesday night vancouver time
15:45 * sekjal     gets on it
15:45 sekjal       so I only have until Wednesday, eh?
15:45 kf           sekjal: rangi said all that gets through qa until wednesday he will consider... :(
15:45 kf           nengard: I will think about it :)
15:44 nengard      I need video ideas for my videos for patrons series, i only have 1 more idea and i need to do a bunch this week
15:44 kf           they don't like how it currently works at all
15:44 kf           nengard: yep, but my libraries are not superlibraians
15:44 nengard      now i have an assignment for you kf :)
15:44 kf           nengard: if you are not superlibrarian, only those you created, or those from your branch, or all (according to system preference)
15:44 nengard      k will go test now
15:44 nengard      that's probably why i never saw it on my system :)
15:44 kf           nengard: if you have superlibrarian permission you shoudl always see all baskets - no matter how your syspref is set
15:43 kf           nengard: then toggle the syspref around
15:43 kf           nengard: what you need is: one basket that you own, one from another branch, one from another user
15:43 nengard      kf i can try to test that one - i usually only saw it on partner's machines when i trained them and never on mine - so i need to do some testing to cause the bug on mine first :)
15:43 kf           I am wy behind testing
15:43 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5680 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, christophe.croullebois, ASSIGNED , When deleting an order, delete attached items, and if applicable biblio
15:43 kf           sekjal: bug 5680... could you take a look at it?
15:43 libsysguy1   its up to date as of saturday
15:42 sekjal       (was out this morning getting my immunizations for KohaCon)
15:42 libsysguy1   awesome
15:42 sekjal       libsysguy1:  I see it.  I'm pulling it down today
15:42 libsysguy1   sekjal I got that branch merged for you
15:42 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6390 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, ef, ASSIGNED , Basket only visible for librarian who created it
15:42 kf           bug 6390
15:42 nengard      bug #?
15:41 kf           nengard: and now... I can't sign off on it
15:41 kf           nengard: I reworked the basket permission patch
15:41 nengard      bribe me for what?
15:41 kf           nengard: ooooh... can I bribe you too?
15:41 sekjal       hi, everyone
15:41 kf           do you want cookies?
15:41 kf           hi sekjal :)
15:41 nengard      there's sekjal :)
15:41 kf           rhcl: I think so - the name you want to use for it
15:41 nengard      work :)
15:40 libsysguy1   what are you guys up to this morning
15:40 nengard      hehe
15:40 wahanui      nengard is, like, fast
15:40 libsysguy1   nengard!!
15:40 libsysguy1   there he goes again
15:40 nengard      libsysguy1! :)
15:40 reiveune     bye
15:39 rhcl         In this command: $ git remote add pb git://github.com/paulboone/ticgit.git   - is pb just an alias for what follows?
15:37 kf           I believe you :)
15:37 nengard      hehe - i promise he's not hiding and would probably rather be here than at the doctor :)
15:37 kf           nengard: I wanted to ask him about 2 bugs... so I can understand if he wants to hide :)
15:36 kf           oh
15:34 nengard      but he was out getting medical stuff for KohaCon so it might be longer than he expected
15:34 nengard      kf my calendar says he should be back any minute now :)
15:29 nengard      testing druthb's patch
15:29 nengard      i think so - i'll check my calendar in a sec
15:29 kf           nengard: ah, will he be around later?
15:14 oleonard     I busy
15:13 rhcl         I here
15:13 nengard      slow monday morning here ? where is everyone?
14:57 nengard      sekjal is out this morning
14:49 kf           sekjal: around?
14:22 huginn       New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7045] Default-value substitution inconsistent <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7045>
14:10 huginn       New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7044] branch selector in OPAC not selecting <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7044>
13:51 nengard      enjoy
13:51 rangi        ok, off to explore bbl
13:50 rangi        hehe
13:49 kf           ;)
13:49 kf           don't get lost mr rm
13:49 rangi        looks to me like i just walk south and ill end up at stanley park
13:47 * rangi      goes to look at a map
13:42 kf           :)
13:40 magnuse      yay!
13:40 rangi        the last time we won the world cup
13:40 rangi        its a repeat of 24 years ago
13:40 rangi        nz vs france in the final
13:39 magnuse      moahaha ;-)
13:38 rangi        i had the librarians here research me places to watch it :)
13:37 rangi        of course!!
13:37 rangi        what kind of question is that???
13:37 magnuse      hehe, will you stay awake for it?
13:36 rangi        magnuse: 1am sunday morning vancouver time
13:36 rangi        but once i landed i tried to stay awake til night
13:36 * oleonard   was trying to think of what circumstances would prompt an American airline to break out the bubbly... couldn't.
13:36 magnuse      when is the final?
13:36 rangi        i think i dozed off and whiplashed my neck a few times
13:36 magnuse      hehe
13:35 rangi        otoh nz won and htey gave us lots of sparkling wine to celebrate on the plane
13:35 oleonard     Not even a nap in there somewhere?
13:35 magnuse      ouch
13:35 rangi        cos i had been awake 37 hours at that point
13:35 oleonard     Not too early to get up, just too early to be at work
13:35 rangi        i fell asleep at 7pm tho
13:34 rangi        6.30am
13:34 jcamins_away ... isn't it awfully early in Vancouver?
13:34 oleonard     Doesn't it make you want to yell at him to get back to bed?
13:34 kf           in the afternoon!
13:34 kf           yeah it is
13:34 rangi        hehe
13:34 jcamins_away Wow... having rangi online in the morning is weird.
13:34 rangi        keeps you on your toes
13:34 rangi        panic in an RM is a good thing
13:34 rangi        :)
13:33 kf           all will be well
13:33 kf           no panic!
13:32 rangi        and release
13:32 rangi        :)
13:32 rangi        do lots of testing, panic if any core features misbehave
13:32 rangi        write release notes
13:32 kf           nah, will be nice
13:32 rangi        then i have to get all the .po files in
13:31 kf           hehe
13:31 kf           seeekjal!
13:31 rangi        but the other 6 ill push, and will evalutate any more that get passed qa between now an wednesday night vancouver time
13:30 rangi        i think 4 i will leave for 3.6.1
13:30 rangi        there are 10 in passed qa
13:29 * oleonard   would love to see the bulk biblio mod patch make it if we can get the last few questions answered
13:29 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6390 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, ef, ASSIGNED , Basket only visible for librarian who created it
13:29 kf           bug 6390
13:29 kf           pleeease?
13:29 kf           speaking about patches?
13:28 kf           someone willing to sign off on that basket patch?
13:28 kf           hmhm
13:27 rangi        but i will push a few on wednesday, while at the hackfest
13:26 rangi        gets to the too dangerous stage
13:26 rangi        probably wont be many more pushed between now and release
13:26 rangi        hehe
13:26 * oleonard   loves waking up to pushed patches
13:25 oleonard     With you here who's going to push patches while I'm sleeping? :)
13:25 oleonard     Hi rangi
13:23 rangi        im in your continent messing with your light switches north america
11:54 kivilahtio   It seems I needed to go to marcedit view of the new ACQ framework to actually generate it.
11:52 kivilahtio   Frameworkcode = ACQ
11:52 kivilahtio   hey what is the case with acquisitions module. When I try to order new items from and existing biblio, systems says I don't have a ACQ-framework even if I just made such a Marc Framework based on the Default one.
11:05 kf           oleonard: around?
10:47 huginn       wahanui: (arewethereyet [<channel>]) -- Let us know if we've reached Koha 3.6 yet.
10:47 huginn       magnuse: Not yet - wait 5 days
10:47 wahanui      @arewethereyet is, like, counting down the days until release
10:47 magnuse      @arewethereyet
10:39 magnuse      hiya kivilahtio
10:37 huginn       New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 4877] Create and update the manual pages for the koha-* scripts. <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4877>
10:21 kivilahtio   Hello #Kohasters
10:01 huginn       New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7042] Improving cleanup_database.pl: handling quotes in a_session and interpreting sessdays parameter <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7042>
09:47 ropuch       s/lokk/looks
09:47 ropuch       At least you will see how installation process lokks like ;)
09:46 Rima         ok
09:45 ropuch       There is a simple (but still technical) howto
09:44 ropuch       Rima: http://www.blazingmoon.org/news/2008/12/installing-koha-3-on-ubuntu-810-a-tutorial/
09:44 Rima         Thank You
09:44 Rima         ok
09:43 ropuch       You should pass this to your IT department, really
09:42 ropuch       Probably, but you need root privileges, not just "shell access"
09:42 Rima         against my account?
09:41 Rima         Is it possible to install koha who have shell permission on the server??
09:41 ropuch       So you can;t install Koha on that account
09:41 Rima         i don't have shell account
09:40 Rima         yes you are right
09:40 ropuch       And then I assume you don;t have shell account on this server
09:40 ropuch       I assume you have acces to web server only, some phpmydamin at best
09:39 Rima         i have an account in ixwebhosting server
09:39 ropuch       Nah
09:39 Rima         but i use server in graphics mode
09:38 ropuch       And paste teh result
09:38 ropuch       uname -a
09:38 ropuch       OK, so log into your root account type in
09:37 Rima         yes i have
09:36 ropuch       Not really, I means admin privileges to your server
09:36 Rima         root access means root access of the site where i want to include koha??
09:36 ropuch       And I'n not sure what ixwebhosting server you actually have, so I can't help you atm.
09:35 ropuch       They should find all information they'll need in those install files
09:34 ropuch       You need root acces to your server and some basic understanding of linux
09:34 ropuch       So I advice you to point them to koha-community.org
09:33 Rima         now i am seeing several install file that is install.debian etc
09:33 Rima         i have unpacked koha 3.04.05.tar.gz
09:32 Rima         yes
09:31 ropuch       Do you have any IT department/
09:30 Rima         we use ixwebhosting server
09:30 ropuch       Linux is general name for a whole 'family' of system
09:29 Rima         what linux distribution means?
09:28 ropuch       What linux distribution you have on your server?
09:28 Rima         After unpacking what should i do?
09:27 Rima         no
09:27 ropuch       How to unpack tar.gz?
09:27 Rima         but how?
09:27 ropuch       After unpacking koha-3.04.05.tar.gz you will find few INSTALL files for different linxu distribution
09:26 ropuch       So if you want to run get it working, you need to set up koha server
09:26 ropuch       Rima: koha works in client-server model
09:26 Rima         yes our server is linux based
09:25 kf           yes, your server
09:25 Rima         not desktop?
09:25 Rima         are u asking me about server?
09:24 kf           you can't install koha under windows xp - I think you are talking about your desktop? Koha is accessed through a browser, but the server where it's installed on should run Linux
09:23 Rima         I need complete step by step instruction for using koha into our website
09:22 Rima         windows xp
09:22 wahanui      which os are you using?
09:22 kf           which os?
09:22 Rima         yes
09:20 kf           Rima: is it your own server?
09:20 Rima         Now i am downloading koha from http://download.koha-community.org/koha-3.04.05.tar.gz this link
09:18 Rima         I am using linux based server
09:18 kf           if you are using debian or ubuntu you can use packages to install KOha
09:18 kf           and there are also instructions on the koha wiki, wiki.koha-community.org
09:17 kf           the instructions are provided within the koha taball, there are instruction files named INSTALL.*
09:17 kf           you will not get help for this fork of Koha on the mailing lists and in the channel here
09:17 Rima         but i need instruction for executing koha in website
09:16 Rima         i have got install instruction for  Koha Offline Circulation Client
09:16 kf           this is a fork from older Koha code - if you want to run Koha yourself you might want to download the software from koha-community.org
09:15 kf           you haven't downloaded Koha then
09:15 kf           ok
09:15 Rima         http://www.liblime.com
09:15 kf           have you followed the install instructions?
09:15 kf           ?
09:15 kf           where did you download koha from
09:14 Rima         for this reason what should i do?
09:14 Rima         now i include koha into a website from where i can manage library
09:13 Rima         I have downloaded koha
09:13 kf           Rima: I am sorry Rima, I am not sure what you want to do
09:11 Rima         how can i include koha into my site?
07:59 huginn       New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7041] Sort >1000 search results with sortmax parameter in zebra config file <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7041>
07:40 sophie_m     hello #koha
07:40 kmkale       Namaste magnuse :)
07:38 magnuse      namaste kmkale
07:38 kf           hi francharb :)
07:38 asaurat      hi!
07:37 kmkale       Namaste kf
07:36 francharb    morning #koha
07:36 kmkale       Namaskaar #koha :)
07:36 kf           morning asaurat and kmkale
07:33 kf           morning #koha
07:00 paul_p       magnuse: i'm just thinking France can't win easily. We can win, but not with a large score (unless a referee uses 2 red cards. Because only one won't be enough ;-) )
07:00 alex_a1      paul_p: i want too
06:59 paul_p       alex_a1: frankly, and without being too friendly with rangi I don't want this solution. I want to win only if it's not stolen.
06:59 alex_a1      oups ...
06:59 alex_a1      paul_p, 3rd option: france wins thanks to the referee ;)
06:52 magnuse      you do get the impression nz wants to win the whole thing... ;-)
06:52 paul_p       I can't imagine France beating you easily ;-)
06:52 paul_p       rangi: so it will be F-NZ... I see 2 options : either NZ wins easilly, or the match is very hard and will end with a score like 12-11 or 13-15
06:51 paul_p       )
06:51 paul_p       hello (just for a few minuts here : will catch a train in 20mn...
06:50 magnuse      kia ora paul_p
06:47 reiveune     hi magnuse :)
06:46 magnuse      bonjour reiveune
06:46 wahanui      niihau, reiveune
06:46 reiveune     hello
06:38 cait         and alex_a1 :)
06:37 magnuse      guten morgen cait
06:37 cait         morning magnuse
06:37 cait         fredericd++
06:18 magnuse      kia ora #koha
06:13 cait         morning ropuch :)
06:07 ropuch       Morning #koha
05:46 eythian      cya
05:46 jransom      off home - night night
05:44 eythian      ah right :)
05:43 jransom      no - thats what I'm buying with the proceeds
05:43 eythian      that's what you sold on Trademe?
05:43 jransom      tequila on the beach with Brooke :)
05:43 eythian      awesome :)
05:43 jransom      yay - my trademe auction just sold for asking price : I have spending money for India!
05:42 jransom      :)
05:41 eythian      a workmate just got back from there. She had a tan.
05:41 eythian      that'll be fun
05:41 jransom      Samoa for Xmas perhaps
05:40 jransom      indeed they will :)
05:40 eythian      on the flip side, my airpoints card will be happy
05:40 eythian      no, not so much. Though, by the end of all that I'm going to be so sick of planes.
05:39 jransom      ah yes - but thats just over the ditch -nowhere near as exciting
05:39 eythian      it should be fun. I also have to go to Australia for two more conferences within a week of getting back.
05:38 jransom      I am so SO excited about this: always wanted to go to India
05:37 eythian      heh yes
05:36 jransom      yeah: please supply copy of passpotrt scared me off that site pretty quick ...
05:36 eythian      but I think asking a local to find a good company and picking one up there is likely to work
05:36 eythian      also out of stock
05:35 jransom      wonder how dodgy that is ...
05:35 jransom      oh: This service requires registration BEFORE YOU TRAVEL.
05:34 eythian      yeah. My vodafone roaming data rates are hideous also
05:34 jransom      but definitely cheaper than the price gouging which will happen if Telecom involved
05:34 jransom      or this: http://www.telestial.com/view_product.php?ID=LSIM-IN02
05:33 eythian      ah, useful
05:33 jransom      http://www.indiamike.com/india/electronics-in-india-f15/prepaid-mobile-phone-in-india-a-starters-guide-roaming-sim-cards-networks-t8434/
05:33 jransom      we shall have to read fine print!
05:32 jransom      SIM cards are quite cheap, about 150-200 Rupees. But you should know that if you are TRAVELLING around India that you can only recharge your card (for most of the providers) in the area where you bought it!
05:31 eythian      e.g. in Malysia it was about $1 for 24 hours of data, which was perfect for staying for a week.
05:31 jransom      phew ...
05:31 jransom      thats true
05:31 eythian      those kinds of places often seem to have pretty good deals compared to us.
05:31 jransom      good idea
05:31 eythian      I'm going to see about picking up a prepay sim card when I'm there.
05:31 cait         jransom: hope you and others will tweet a lot :)
05:30 jransom      like in the olden days: making arrangements to meet and sticking to them!
05:30 jransom      OMG - imaging a life without my cellphone ...
05:30 eythian      Yeah, but you still need an account, which I don't have :)
05:30 eythian      though, I don't know that I'll have data there anyway.
05:30 jransom      Don (i meant)
05:30 jransom      and chris too
05:30 jransom      on posts from that to twitter i think ..
05:29 eythian      I do use identi.ca though
05:29 jransom      what a bonus - a spare day
05:29 * eythian    doesn't twit
05:29 jransom      doubt my phone will be used much but there is always twitter
05:29 eythian      yeah :) oh, I just discovered I have a spare day, I thought the conf started on the 30th.
05:28 jransom      i'llleave a message at desk with our room number
05:28 jransom      oh yes .... breakfast then :)
05:28 eythian      Well, I land at 11pm, so I'll probably just want to sleep by then :)
05:28 jransom      we get in the day before
05:27 jransom      so Vihnags housebar on the 29th it is then :)
05:27 jransom      excellent
05:27 eythian      I arrive on the evening of the 29th, and staying at vihang's.
05:27 jransom      (I am leaving on Saturday and we should arrange a meeting spot)
05:27 jransom      Robin: what date are you flying into Mumbai and where are you staying?
05:19 eythian      hopefully, yeah
05:18 cait         eythian: ah, that will make some people happy :)
05:18 eythian      goodness our internet is going fast today.
05:17 * eythian    is publishing new koha packages from master
05:16 jransom      Heya katrin
05:12 huginn       New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7028] koha-conf.xml template that comes with the packages needs updating <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7028>
05:09 cait         hi jo :)
05:08 jransom      WOuld anyone hear know how many people have registered for KohaCon11?
05:08 jransom      Hi everyone.
05:02 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7028 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, ASSIGNED , koha-conf.xml template that comes with the packages needs updating
05:02 cait         bug 7028
05:02 cait         hi Amit_Gupta
05:02 huginn       eythian: The operation succeeded.
05:02 eythian      @later tell Judit Bug 7028 is ready for your testing :D
05:02 Amit_Gupta   heya cait
04:43 cait         hi eythian :)
04:42 eythian      hi cait
04:42 cait         good morning #koha
03:41 phlunk3      off home. evening(almost ish!!) all :P
03:34 Amit_Gupta   good morning all ;)
03:34 Amit_Gupta   heya chris
03:21 sekhar       any volunteers?
03:21 sekhar       looking for help in setting up fines and circulation rules?
03:21 sekhar       hallo..
02:48 huginn       New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5533] marking item lost diff in two places <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5533>