Time Nick Message
23:50 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6862 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED , Duplicate VOKAL icons can cause problems on Windows file system
23:50 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6825 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, NEW , OpacNav menu hide user menu on opac-user.pl page
23:50 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bumping database version
23:50 jenkins_koha * ian.walls: Bug 6862: Duplicate VOKAL Book icons
23:50 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bumping database version
23:50 jenkins_koha * f.demians: Bug 6825 OpacNav menu hide user menu on opac-user.pl page
23:50 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #479: SUCCESS in 48 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/479/
23:02 jenkins_koha Starting build 479 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
23:02 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6807 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, amit.gupta, ASSIGNED , Add ISBN filter to advanced order search
23:02 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5780 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , RIS format export not exporting URI field
23:02 jenkins_koha * amit.gupta: Bug 6807 - Add ISBN filter to advanced order search.
23:02 jenkins_koha * gmc: bug 5780 followup: RIS export now includes all URLs
23:02 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 5780 - Export the URI as part of a RIS export
23:02 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #478: SUCCESS in 48 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/478/
22:55 wahanui :)
22:55 cait wahanui botsnack butterkeks
22:55 cait hehe
22:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6970 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , logout not redirecting to login page
22:54 wahanui bug 6970 is the weirdest bug I've seen in a whlie
22:54 rangi bug 6970
22:54 rangi 6970
22:54 rangi thats wrong
22:54 rangi hmm no
22:53 cait hm 6070?
22:52 rangi thats the next on my list to test and push
22:52 rangi glad thats fixed
22:51 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6070 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , On a new order defined from suggestion some fields were missing.
22:51 rangi ohh bug 6070
22:51 bg git_repo_owner++
22:51 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bumping database version <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f85c06d0c0330bc4512db8000b9898ac75fe7481> / Bug 6862: Duplicate VOKAL Book icons <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ebd03e31e2a1cf2c30b97f2af48e283212d7a49a>
22:48 rangi heh
22:48 bg I think my favorite email to read is always from Git repo owner
22:47 bg yeah - I can wear shorts during the day in the winter here
22:47 rangi right so never cold cold
22:46 bg we get a few weeks of cold - but that hovers between 7 and 14 :)
22:46 rangi tis a good beach
22:46 rangi cool
22:46 bg on the beach oh yeah
22:46 bg yup - but around here we don't get winter
22:46 rangi on the beach?
22:46 bg he's slower today - but we went for a great run this morning when it was cool
22:46 rangi isnt it supposed to be going into winter?
22:45 bg rangi it's almost too hot for a shaggy puppy here
22:40 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bumping database version <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b83c3896456a20ad3612e4f91e4b63fcaf3bfb02> / Bug 6825 OpacNav menu hide user menu on opac-user.pl page <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d7cbdd3d0bcc4bf06f65ed1fec16d506fa8f217f>
22:40 bg ah yeah - would should let slef know
22:27 rangi but lets hope it doesnt come to that
22:27 rangi in a pinch
22:27 cait but scotland beats ala, right? :)
22:26 rangi if hte dates work, doing ALA then kohacon or vice versa would be excellent
22:26 rangi :)
22:25 bg totally
22:25 bg yeah
22:25 rangi june eh?
22:25 bg come visit here again chris :)
22:24 bg ah that's cold - heh
22:24 rangi i best pack a warm jacket
22:24 rangi hmm
22:24 rangi thanks :)
22:24 huginn bg: The current temperature in Vancouver, British Columbia is 11.0�C (3:00 PM PDT on October 13, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 30.20 in 1023 hPa (Falling).
22:24 bg @wunder vancouver, bc
22:24 rangi you dumbhead
22:24 huginn rangi: Error: No such location could be found.
22:24 rangi @wunder vancouver, ca
22:24 bg heh
22:24 huginn rangi: Error: No such location could be found.
22:24 bg in October
22:24 rangi @wunder vancouver
22:24 bg yeah was 35 here yesterday
22:24 rangi dizzam!
22:24 huginn bg: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 14.0�C (11:00 AM NZDT on October 14, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady).
22:24 bg @wunder wellington nz
22:23 bg damn check that rangi
22:23 huginn bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 31.9�C (3:22 PM PDT on October 13, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 32%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 29.70 in 1005.6 hPa (Falling).
22:23 bg @wunder 93109
22:13 jenkins_koha Starting build 478 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
22:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6519 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , Analytic links should use ti,phr
22:13 jenkins_koha Chris Cormack: Bug 6519 : Changing analytic searches from Title: to ti,phr
22:13 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #477: SUCCESS in 48 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/477/
22:07 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6807 - Add ISBN filter to advanced order search. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6c9ab3678a9ab747eb9f5a89a4a6972a861fa9ca>
21:55 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7027] Corrections to German web installer txt files <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7027>
21:45 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: bug 5780 followup: RIS export now includes all URLs <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=72eeac56fdb967d3fcfb08fc3f8dfb56bf74e755> / Bug 5780 - Export the URI as part of a RIS export <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=412666e52b4e8f7bc5ae70f2b2978b1bd088a885>
21:42 rangi not me
21:42 rhcl Anybody know Brice Stanley by chance? https://github.com/bricestacey/php-sip/blob/master/sipapi.module
21:41 Judit but thanks cait
21:40 Judit it is that early for me :)
21:39 Judit omg
21:39 wizzyrea :)
21:39 wizzyrea wb is welcome back
21:36 Judit wb?
21:33 cait wb Judit :)
21:33 Judit i need coffeeee
21:30 Brooke morena!
21:30 Judit morning
21:25 jenkins_koha Starting build 477 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
21:23 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6519 : Changing analytic searches from Title: to ti,phr <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=31d748665a396582ad344249c3dfd394b6047f85>
21:23 magnuse g'night #koha
21:18 rangi :)
21:17 Brooke eh oh
21:17 rangi jo was after you on twitter
21:17 rangi heya Brooke
21:16 Brooke kia ora
21:10 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7022] should sample_notices_message_attributes and sample_notices_message_transports move to mandatory? <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7022>
20:57 rangi :)
20:53 * gmcharlt will review patches as penance ;)
20:52 huginn gmcharlt: Not yet - wait 9 days
20:52 gmcharlt @arewethereyet
20:52 * gmcharlt is going to be annoying for a second
20:50 rangi :)
20:50 rangi hdl: make eythian spend some time with paul and julian at kohacon :) get him to show them the tricks and then they can show you
20:48 hdl maybe one day I can play more with that.
20:44 rangi that one would do the debconf questions and call the scripts provided by koha-common
20:43 rangi is for running a single server
20:43 rangi koha
20:43 rangi koha-common asks you the questions as config switches when you create an instance
20:43 rangi koha-common and koha
20:43 rangi there are 2 packages
20:42 hdl wonder how this could get with debian packaging.... debconf would help... But it should ask the good questions.
20:42 rangi yep
20:41 hdl In order to add etc/httpserver/apache2/configuration etc/httpserver/nginx
20:41 hdl could be interesting... But could also be the place to a C4::Context and configuration....
20:37 rangi after the release would you like to have a meeting to talk about persistence, we can make a wip branch we can all push to
20:35 rangi gotta package starman for debian etc too
20:35 rangi once im not rm and have some time to actually work on code
20:35 rangi its not far away from production, early next year i hope
20:34 rangi but it works if you are keeping an eye on it
20:34 rangi its too fragile yet
20:34 rangi yep
20:34 hdl (restarting the server via runit or monit could be done)
20:33 hdl was that stable enough for production though ?
20:33 rangi there are still things that dont get cleaned up
20:33 rangi thats why its not ready for master yet
20:33 rangi yes
20:32 hdl no problems of memory ?
20:32 rangi what needs to be done is make it installable, and remove any memory leaks
20:32 rangi using the koha.psgi we worked on
20:32 rangi hdl: just using nginx to serve static, and to proxy through to starman
20:31 oleonard Okay rangi, I'll give it a try
20:31 hdl rangi: you told you had some success with nginx, Plack and circulation any hint on the configuration you realized ?
20:30 rangi then it shouldnt slow the script down
20:29 rangi or whatever
20:29 rangi or 1 second
20:29 rangi if you had time to test that?
20:29 rangi might do it
20:29 rangi oleonard: i was thinking date_add(now(),'5 seconds')
20:27 hdl any experience with spagoBI anyone ?
20:25 rangi hdl: excellent
20:24 ropuch I'll check Selenium then, thx
20:24 hdl and can generate PERL scripts
20:24 hdl Or SeleniumHQ which is recording your web browsing.
20:23 hdl You can also use Test::WWW::Mechanizer
20:23 hdl WWW::Mechanizer
20:22 hdl just wanted to tell you in case anyone needed that.
20:22 ropuch Can you recommend some perl web-automation module?
20:22 octp tables* :)
20:22 octp hi. I emptied the mysql dbs biblioitems, items and biblios and rebuilt the zebra index, but can find my records in the search? how do I reset my whole catalogue?
20:21 hdl since it is updating a syspref when it is updated.
20:21 rangi you should submit it up (wont make 3.6 obv) but no reason it cant make 3.8
20:20 hdl this was even better.
20:20 rangi but its never made it into master
20:20 rangi hdl: yep, i remember you and i did it at kohacon
20:19 ropuch Evening #koha
20:18 hdl http://git.biblibre.com/?p=koha;a=commit;h=fa73ff898a054b59e27de58a116cd03cd85074ba
20:17 hdl It is working.
20:17 hdl rangi : we did wome work on set_preference to update the hash...
20:14 rangi its likely
20:14 sekjal checkouts seem to be
20:14 rangi there are bound to be other things like that
20:14 rangi (it will change in the db, not in ram)
20:13 rangi so under mod_perl you cant change a preference without restarting apache
20:13 rangi it doesnt do that
20:13 rangi if you look at set_preference now
20:13 sekjal a bit...
20:13 rangi does that help?
20:13 rangi those kinda things
20:13 rangi which needs to be done anytime a syspref is changed
20:13 rangi }
20:13 rangi sub clear_syspref_cache { %sysprefs = ();
20:13 rangi fixed by this
20:12 rangi in C4/Context
20:12 rangi }
20:12 rangi return $sysprefs{$var};
20:12 rangi if (exists $sysprefs{$var}) {
20:12 rangi heres an example
20:11 rangi any variables that shouldnt be persistent need to become not persistent
20:11 sekjal rangi: what would such a clean up look like?
20:10 rangi *nod*
20:10 sekjal but only the SECOND time a visit the page
20:10 * chris_n heads home
20:10 rangi because we dont clean up, we bank on the cgi dying and doing that for us
20:10 sekjal the circ toolbar is coming up as links only, and the checkouts table is only the headings, not the actual checkouts
20:09 rangi yeah its not mod_perl safe
20:09 sekjal I am finding some strangeness on circ/circulation.pl, though
20:09 rangi cool
20:09 sekjal after some tweaking to fit my particular install, yes
20:09 rangi its been a long time since i looked
20:09 * oleonard is happy to have a better suggestion prompted by a hacky fix for a 3-year-old bug :)
20:09 rangi did they work?
20:09 sekjal rangi: just tried your mod_perl configs for Koha
20:08 rangi we do something like now()+5
20:08 rangi so how about
20:08 rangi ie slow down the browser
20:07 rangi for a second
20:07 rangi this will hang the makeaccounts
20:07 rangi but will work
20:07 rangi hacky
20:06 rangi sounds good
20:06 oleonard So maybe in the meantime ^^
20:05 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 2601] Order fines by date and time <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2601>
20:00 rangi its also shifting to the Koha:: namespace
19:59 sekjal oleonard: yes, eythian is working on that
19:59 rangi yeah its underway
19:58 cait i thought robin started on it
19:58 oleonard Is someone working on a Fines overhaul atm?
19:56 cait he gives me some headache about analytics
19:56 cait yeah really
19:56 libsysguy all patches should fear the wringer of sekjal
19:55 sekjal libsysguy: I have it installed locally, but I haven't started putting it through the wringer yet
19:53 libsysguy anybody know how bug 5549 is going as far as QA
19:49 * rangi blathers
19:49 rangi so extending the new Koha::Dates would be the way to go
19:49 rangi we have started on the move to the Koha/ names space
19:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5549 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED , Hourly Loans
19:49 rangi with bug 5549
19:48 rangi however
19:48 rangi thats something we should extend it to do at some point too
19:48 rangi yep
19:48 oleonard We don't even have a time format system pref, so doing time formatting would be presumptuous.
19:48 rangi etc
19:48 rangi print $date->output("iso");
19:48 rangi my $date1 = C4::Dates->new("09-21-1989","us");
19:47 rangi there is format_date_in_iso shortcut
19:47 rangi its a 2 liner
19:47 rangi well you have to parse the thing first
19:46 oleonard ...but not a shortcut like format_date
19:45 cait maximep: glad it helped :)
19:44 rangi http://perldoc.koha-community.org/C4/Dates.html
19:44 maximep updating koha-dev/etc/zebradb worked. Thanks for the help cait
19:44 rangi has that stuff oleonard
19:43 rangi C4::Dates
19:43 oleonard We don't have a global date-and-time format function do we?
19:43 phlunk3 yeap
19:43 rangi you're in tauranga eh?
19:42 rangi hey phlunk3
19:42 phlunk3 morning o/
19:40 rangi hiya melia
19:37 libsysguy thanks sekjal
19:37 libsysguy just saw that
19:37 sekjal libsysguy: use 'controlfield' isntead of 'datafield'
19:36 libsysguy i am running "select ExtractValue(marcxml,'//datafield[@tag="001"]') AS OCLC, i.itemnumber FROM biblioitems b join items i on b.biblioitemnumber=i.biblioitemnumber WHERE location="REFERENCE" limit 1\G"
19:34 libsysguy but if I just output the marc I see it
19:34 libsysguy and i keep getting a blank
19:34 libsysguy I am trying to pull the 001 datafield from marc
19:34 libsysguy ok so I have a query question
19:17 cait so the files could be older
19:17 maximep oh ok
19:17 cait and a git pull will not update them
19:17 maximep yes, like I said, it's master from a few weeks
19:17 cait because the indexing files live in koha-dev
19:16 cait yes to git?
19:16 maximep the items script and things?
19:16 maximep yes
19:15 cait is this a git install?
19:15 cait should not affect authority searching though
19:15 cait after importing from 3.2?
19:15 cait right?
19:15 cait you have run the items script and things?
19:14 cait hm
19:14 maximep or not. It seems to work on another db, but not on one imported from 3.2. /me is confused
19:14 rangi again
19:14 rangi back
19:13 maximep maybe that's it
19:13 maximep oh. I have a master from a few weeks
19:13 cait but htought that had been fixed
19:13 cait there were problems with authority searching
19:13 cait hm
19:07 maximep and no results
19:07 maximep anyone ever had the error "oAuth error: Unsupported Use attribute (114) Heading-Main Bib-1" in the logs when searching authorities ?
19:05 * oleonard has a hate-hate relationship with that feature
19:05 oleonard So now if you submit the checkout form with no barcode instead of clearing the screen you get a print receipt popup. Can we turn that off?
18:59 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 3385] Add checkout date and renewal date to display list of checked out items <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3385>
18:56 libsysguy you mean for the email values?
18:55 sekjal libsysguy: first things I notice about the script are the hardcoded values
18:34 rangi back
18:32 libsysguy there you go
18:32 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6833 enhancement, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW , Notifications Rewrite
18:32 libsysguy bug 6833
18:30 libsysguy yeah I know I have been...poor margo was doing them all by hand with mail merges
18:30 wizzyrea to get more than 3 notices
18:30 wizzyrea libsysguy: i'm sure that people have been wanting that for a while
18:29 libsysguy basically just a little script to send out overdues and fines that you can toss in the cron
18:29 libsysguy yeah I am attaching it to the bug now
18:29 nengard k
18:29 cait go through them and see where the difference is
18:28 cait check the conditions
18:28 cait for the patron where you know it should show up
18:28 cait what I would do
18:28 sekjal libsysguy: new script?
18:28 cait werid
18:27 nengard grrrr - still nothing for them
18:27 nengard let me try on the partner's system
18:27 nengard looks like it's working!!
18:26 nengard let me see if they're accurate
18:26 nengard i get results
18:26 cait http://paste.koha-community.org/84
18:26 cait does this make a difference?
18:23 cait let me check something
18:23 cait ok
18:23 wahanui sekjal was last seen on #koha 2 hours, 31 minutes and 20 seconds ago, saying: going to have to do all kinds of tests to prove whether or not that makes any speed improvement, but it certainly doesn't hurt [Thu Oct 13 15:51:12 2011]
18:23 libsysguy seen sekjal?
18:23 libsysguy is he around?
18:23 nengard cait my patron is getting 2 other notices, but not holds
18:23 nengard libsysguy talk to sekjal about that
18:23 libsysguy nengard also I wrote a script for overdue notices and fines that can go in the cron incase you have anybody wanting to send out more than 3 overdues...just set the cron on whatever frequency...let me know if you want a copy
18:23 nengard yes
18:22 cait he has
18:22 cait does he have any other message preference set?
18:22 nengard libsysguy okay
18:22 cait ah
18:22 nengard i just changed their settings
18:21 libsysguy about list**
18:21 nengard cait i get no results and i have at least one patron who meets the criteria
18:21 cait http://paste.koha-community.org/83
18:21 libsysguy nengard just wanted to let you know that you can probably close that ticket that margo submitted to bywater
18:21 cait check this
18:21 cait hm
18:20 wizzyrea syntax error?
18:19 nengard ideas
18:19 nengard i'm out of ideas
18:19 nengard okay
18:19 nengard and grrr
18:19 cait yep
18:19 nengard hmmm
18:19 nengard you get people?
18:18 cait works for me
18:18 nengard i'm okay if you get one result - i'm getting none
18:18 cait hm
18:17 cait only have a small database here
18:16 cait i will look at it :)
18:16 nengard :(
18:16 nengard I don't remember writing it :) but it's not working
18:16 nengard maybe you helped me write that ?
18:16 cait or I have done it for liz
18:16 cait it sounds very familiar
18:16 cait haven#t we done that before?
18:16 cait ah
18:16 cait sure :)
18:16 nengard [13:45] <pastebot> "nengard" at 98.114.30.184 pasted "report" (12 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/82
18:16 nengard [13:45] <nengard> need more report help if possible - i need a report to show me the patrons who have email addresses who aren't receiving the holds email
18:15 nengard cait, wanna help with another report?
18:02 rangi heya
18:01 trea_lunch kia ora rangi
18:01 cait oh, and hi rangi
17:57 oleonard good morning rangi
17:48 rangi should be
17:48 cait txt and sql?
17:48 cait it's only moving the files, right?
17:47 cait I can
17:47 rangi answer is yes, if someone sends a patch to do it
17:47 nengard that paste of mine isn't working ? obviously
17:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7022 normal, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW , should sample_notices_message_attributes and sample_notices_message_transports move to mandatory?
17:46 rangi slef: when you say 3.8 on bug 7022 do you mean 3.6 ?
17:46 pastebot "nengard" at 98.114.30.184 pasted "report" (12 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/82
17:46 nengard need more report help if possible - i need a report to show me the patrons who have email addresses who aren't receiving the holds email
17:37 trea yes, sorry in the results list
17:35 wizzyrea (but I haven't tried it)
17:35 wizzyrea with jquery
17:35 wizzyrea you might be able to nuke out rows in the items detail based on keyword
17:33 wizzyrea well, show where? on the detail or results?
17:33 trea mmmk
17:33 cait perhaps you could construct something to add that parameter to the url always?
17:32 wizzyrea that would be awesome tho
17:32 cait you can limit to available items
17:32 cait in the result list?
17:32 cait no
17:32 trea is there a syspref to show only available items by default in the opac search?
17:24 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6553 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , Parentheses in corporate author break tracings
17:24 jcamins_away bug 6553
17:09 cait another good point
17:08 hdl oleonard: some libraries ask for independent shelves between branches.
17:08 cait hi jcamins_away :)
17:01 jcamins_away cait: "Holding library" works.
16:51 cait because we can check for tihngs more easily
16:51 cait I think some of it could be less complicated now with TT
16:51 cait I had system preferences done... and all, but couldn't figure out the logic
16:51 * cait nods
16:47 oleonard Yeah, the lists code is hard (for me)... It was done in a style not very much like other Koha sections
16:46 cait oleonard: I stared at the code for lists for a while... beofre 3.4... but need some help there
16:46 cait oleonard: I amwilling ot help :)
16:45 oleonard Hi bg
16:43 bg heya oleonard and paul_p :)
16:43 oleonard One step at a time!
16:42 paul_p better and better = define groups that you share your shelves with
16:41 oleonard I guess that means we should just do it :P
16:40 * oleonard too
16:40 cait oleonard: what I dream of is activting/deactivating open/public/private by category...
16:40 cait oleonard: I think it would be nice to make them more granular
16:23 oleonard I wonder if there are libraries that would like a separate preference for opac and staff virtual shelves
16:19 dschust1 Well thanks again community I have a 3.4.5 version up and running to play with... talk again soon. I have to go pickup a storyteller at the airport for our Annual Lonestar Storytelling Festival this weekend in Frisco Texas! Bil Lepp - nationally acclaimed liar!
16:17 cait :)
16:17 rhcl koha cait - has a certain ring I think
16:17 cait hi rhcl :)
16:17 rhcl hi #cait
16:16 cait hi #koha
16:13 dschust1 All I know is when I compared those two the second one started with ULL - so I copied it and now it works fine.
16:13 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7019] Circulation History Sort Order Wrong <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7019>
16:13 dschust1 usr/share/koha/intranet/htdocs/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/about.tt was corrupt
16:12 dschust1 as
16:12 oleonard I don't understand why there would be a copy...doesn't make sense to me.
16:10 dschust1 My problem earlier - was that the about.tt in /kohaclone/koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/about.tt - was ok but the "copy" that was placed at:
16:09 dschust1 I put the kohaclone as a directory of its own - but when I run make and make test - it puts the files in /usr/share/koha
16:09 dschust1 I have never fully understood how to install a "test" system other than that.
16:08 oleonard Right, but you shouldn't move the files from where git puts them
16:08 dschust1 So what I did was git clone git://git.koha-community.org/koha.git kohaclone - which pulls the files to my local server. Then I use the instructions for INSTALL.debian to "install" my system.
16:08 oleonard Good.
16:05 wahanui i think INSTALL.debian is at git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=INSTALL.debian
16:05 dschust1 INSTALL.debian
16:05 oleonard Are you following the INSTALL file?
16:04 oleonard You should be using git to put the files in the same location that you run your installation
16:03 dschust1 Ok I'm going to show my stupidity here... After I git the files, I have always run a full install process to install it in /usr/share/koha
16:00 oleonard Copied them over? I thought it was a git install?
16:00 dschust1 oleonard - about my problem earlier - for some reason some of my templates were corrupt. I copied them over and they seem to be fine now... who knows.
15:52 sekjal going to have to do all kinds of tests to prove whether or not that makes any speed improvement, but it certainly doesn't hurt
15:51 reiveune bye
15:51 wizzyrea \o/
15:44 sekjal I think I've successfully removed C4::Items dependency on C4::Reserves
15:38 kf bye all :)
15:37 dschust1 thanks
15:37 oleonard misc/admin/koha-preferences
15:37 dschust1 oleonard - where did you find it?
15:35 * oleonard finds it
15:33 oleonard Did the command line syspref editor make it into master?
15:28 libsysguy maybe somebody just got tt happy
15:28 libsysguy i don't know why it was there in the first place
15:28 libsysguy oleonard to fix it i basically just removed the if opacbookbag
15:25 libsysguy well I'm not exactly tracking master
15:24 oleonard Or are you working on a fix libsysguy?
15:20 oleonard I think you're right libsysguy. If you file a bug I'll work on it.
15:18 libsysguy which I think you need for lists too
15:17 libsysguy if you don't have the book bag enabled then it never calls the cartList function
15:17 libsysguy oleonard I think I see the issue
15:08 wizzyrea this makes me giggle.
15:08 wizzyrea A GUIDE TO FRESHWATER & TERRESTRIAL TURTLES OF THE UPPER MIDWEST" in my collection
15:08 wizzyrea someone wants me to put the book "TURTLES IN YOUR POCKET
15:04 dschust1 ok I think you made it.
15:03 wahanui one more is better than one less but yeah they should be the same
15:03 nengard one more
15:03 nengard thanks
14:59 libsysguy done
14:59 nengard http://www.networkedblogs.com/blog/koha-ils
14:58 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6913] Improving koha-list and koha-create <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6913>
14:58 libsysguy what is the link
14:58 rhcl http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-20119811-92/dennis-ritchie-father-of-c-programming-language-dies/
14:58 nengard anyone on FB willing to click the magic link?
14:57 nengard we just need two more confirmations :)
14:57 libsysguy who's not annoyed with facebook
14:57 wahanui nengard: that doesn't look right
14:57 nengard change the design all you want but don't screw with my functionality
14:57 magnuse nengard: now it says "Received 3 of 6 confirmations."
14:57 nengard kind of annoyed at FB right now
14:57 nengard i'll add more authors once it's approved
14:57 libsysguy but when I select one and click save I should get an popup right?
14:56 nengard thanks magnus
14:56 libsysguy hmm I'm logged in and I just get Add to list: -> Your lists: {my lists}
14:56 magnuse nengard: done - i got your pic and name and "is this the author yes/no"
14:54 oleonard libsysguy: you'll see the option if you're logged in.
14:54 nengard FB has changed it's policies related to pages - this means that the Koha FB page won't be auto fed with Koha news - I have a way around it but I need you all (those of you on FB) to go to this link: http://www.networkedblogs.com/blog/koha-ils and validate me as the 'author' - I'm hoping there is a link on that page for you to do that, I'm not seeing it but it might be because I'm the one trying to get 'author' status
14:53 libsysguy I have cart disabled...so maybe thats why I don't see that option
14:52 libsysguy menu**
14:52 libsysguy the Add to list: medu?
14:51 libsysguy http://catalog.uttyler.edu/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=lasers#
14:51 oleonard libsysguy: From the "add to" menu
14:48 libsysguy from where kf?
14:48 kf you have to select list or cart first
14:47 kf yep
14:47 kf I know I have asked about this too
14:47 kf hm I think you have to chooose an option first
14:46 libsysguy where is that code, becuase I am not getting the popup to save
14:46 libsysguy when you click save on that form there is supposed to be a popup
14:45 libsysguy ok So i have a question about lists on the opac-results page
14:43 kf hi paul_p and miguel
14:43 tcohen hi miguel
14:42 paul_p hi miguel
14:41 miguel hello all
14:38 paul_p magnuse: ???
14:25 kf morning libsysguy :)
14:22 libsysguy morning #Koha
14:21 schuster2 Thanks
14:21 schuster2 I was afraid of that... hmmmm guess I will have to play some more... I was wondering if it could just be the templates, but will go and do some exploration...
14:19 oleonard schuster2: If you see that garbage on your screen it has nothing to do with your version. Your installation is broken somehow
14:18 schuster2 I'm trying to snag a screen shot of the about page and share it too.
14:18 schuster2 yep!
14:17 oleonard schuster2?
14:16 oleonard schuster2: You see this on your screen? http://screencast.com/t/n8nRjUGp9c
14:15 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6949] can't remove owner from budget <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6949> / [Bug 7024] Can't delete other library's messages to the patron with AllowAllMessageDeletion on <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7024>
14:13 kf hm 3.3 - after tempalte change?
14:13 kf looks really weird
14:13 kf same here
14:11 magnuse that's what i see too, at least
14:10 oleonard mib_ep1dnc: You see this? http://screencast.com/t/n8nRjUGp9c
14:09 kf or still waiting...
14:09 kf hm doesn't open for me
14:08 magnuse it's copy/paste i think?
14:08 mib_ep1dnc Yep that is what I see when I go into circ rules.
14:07 oleonard mib_ep1dnc: Is that supposed to be a screenshot? I see garbled characters.
14:04 ropuch bbl
14:04 ropuch magnuse: don't know
14:04 mib_ep1dnc Not all of the preferences seem broken, but it could be my data I guess... It migrated fine though to 3.3...
14:04 mib_ep1dnc This is what I see when I go into circ/fine rules
14:03 mib_ep1dnc http://mibpaste.com/R0SKJV
14:03 mib_ep1dnc only at conferences.
14:03 wahanui Schuster is probably a fan of hawaiian shirts
14:03 mib_ep1dnc Schuster
14:03 mib_ep1dnc hmm odd name...
14:02 mib_ep1dnc whew back.
14:02 magnuse does that mean nobody has no permissions?
14:01 magnuse yeah, and when i choose e.g. nobody, nothing happens
14:01 ropuch In permission section
14:01 ropuch You should have drop down just under your nick
14:00 magnuse oops, that's http://translate.koha-community.org/nb/36/admin_permissions.html
14:00 ropuch Let me look
14:00 magnuse i'm looking at http://translate.koha-community.org/nb/34/admin_permissions.html but it only shows my permissions
14:00 magnuse in pootle, is there a way to see what rights are assigned to nobody and default?
13:59 kf hehe
13:59 wahanui i haven't a clue, oleonard
13:59 oleonard wahanui has his own kf?
13:57 wahanui I haven't seen 'my', kf
13:57 kf wizzyrea: seen my note about the support provider's list?
13:57 kf she can do magic, but probably not that :)
13:56 dschust1 all powerful wizzyrea just can't see my screen?...
13:56 wizzyrea ^^
13:56 hdl jing
13:56 wizzyrea ya, "shows stuff that I can't figure out what it is" isn't an error we can troubleshoot really :/
13:55 dschust1 When I do one of the options my screen just shows stuff that I can't figure out what it is. hmmm I need to connect it to the network and screen shot... and share.
13:55 wizzyrea what's it doing
13:54 dschust1 Hey all... I am doing some testing on different features and documenting a few things locally I have 3.03 running with a copy of my database and I have up and running a copy of what I think is 3.4.5 but it could be master(I think I cloned it from git) - everything is fine until I go into admin and select any of the options say circ/fine rules
13:47 hdl hi tcohen
13:47 tcohen its been a long time, congrats to those elcted for 3.8
13:46 tcohen hi #koha
13:45 magnuse g'night Judit
13:44 Judit z39! :)
13:44 Judit thanks for all the help, good night!
13:22 oleonard So, for instance, the sorting isn't broken if the user has nothing currently checked out
13:21 oleonard Sort by date is broken when the column has mixed date and text content
13:21 * magnuse blushes
13:21 druthb magnuse++
13:21 kf Judit: I agree, he is :)
13:21 kf magnuse++
13:20 magnuse yay
13:19 Judit magnus is a hero- officially
13:11 oleonard Thanks. That's weird.
13:10 nengard oleonard done
13:09 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7019 normal, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , Circulation History Sort Order Wrong
13:09 oleonard nengard: Could you add a screenshot to Bug 7019?
13:09 Judit is there any change to blame it on eythian? (the package) :) i wonder
13:08 Judit with xmlstarlet
13:06 magnuse Judit: i can't see the usual "uncomment this to enable"...
13:06 magnuse Judit: how did you change koha-config.xml to enable z39.50?
13:04 kf nengard: sometimes you need another set of eyes or just someone to eplain the problem to
13:04 kf nengard: I know that feeling
13:00 nengard kf it seems to run just fine! Thank you so much! sometimes I get stuck and only see what's in front of me and not what else it could be
13:00 Judit yes i am
12:59 magnuse Judit: are you using the debian packages?
12:59 kf nengard: only a fair warning - for me pretty everything is fast. so I don't have much experience with optimizing :)
12:58 Judit just a sec magnus
12:57 magnuse Judit: could you let us have a look at you koha-conf.xml, minus the juicy bits?
12:57 nengard kf i'll test on a bigger db and see what happens :)
12:56 Judit no
12:56 Judit magnus, not really
12:56 nengard kf that seems to work and I love that it's only asking once!!!
12:56 kf for perf issues you have to ask ian - my databases are too small to care
12:55 kf and it will only afford to give the dates once
12:55 kf http://paste.koha-community.org/79
12:55 kf better version coming
12:54 kf yep
12:54 nengard kf it's only showing 1 ccode
12:54 kf hmhm
12:54 kf I think ah, but perhaps this is still wrong
12:53 Judit let me have a look
12:53 kf cool :)
12:53 nengard kf - we might have it! let me test on another system
12:53 magnuse Judit: this looks like a similar problem, maybe? http://lists.indexdata.dk/pipermail/zebralist/2006-September/001149.html
12:52 kf http://paste.koha-community.org/78
12:51 kf paste coming
12:51 kf hm I think I have an idea
12:51 nengard making kf think :)
12:50 Judit yes
12:49 magnuse Judit: and port 2103 is the one you are using?
12:48 kf hmm
12:47 nengard yes
12:47 kf nengard: goal is a list of ccodes with counts?
12:46 kf nengard: looking now
12:45 pastebot "Judit" at 121.44.18.57 pasted "zebralog" (69 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/77
12:44 Judit coming
12:44 magnuse Judit: http://paste.koha-community.org/
12:42 Judit i ahve more
12:42 magnuse is that all the output you get?
12:41 Judit anyone for zebrasrv -v all -1 -f ...koha-conf.xml?
12:39 nengard to accurately get the number that were added i need to check on those items that were deleted as well
12:39 nengard I need the number of items added to the collection in a time period by collection code
12:39 nengard "nengard" at 98.114.30.184 pasted "report help" (21 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/76
12:39 Amit_Gupta heya nengard
12:38 kf ok, what was the question?
12:37 nengard kf not solved
12:37 nengard i added a third and it didn't work either
12:37 nengard jcamind there are two group bys in there
12:37 nengard jwagenr th problem with your report is that it doens't look at the items that were deleted
12:37 kf all solved?
12:36 kf nengard: here
12:34 Judit first
12:34 Judit this is missing from the second query
12:34 Judit yyyy-mm-dd)>> group by ccode
12:34 jcamins_away nengard: I'm running late, so I can't give you the new report, but the issue is the GROUP BY.
12:33 Judit zebrasrv -v all -1 -f ...koha-conf.xml
12:33 magnuse i'm trying to take some notes here: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Troubleshooting_Koha_as_a_Z39.50_server
12:33 jwagner SELECT items.itype, count(items.itemnumber) as ItemsCreated FROM items WHERE (items.dateaccessioned like concat(date_format(LAST_DAY(now() - interval 1 month),'%Y-%m-%'))) GROUP BY items.itype
12:33 magnuse Judit: where is that from?
12:33 jwagner nengard, here's one I use for previous month by item type -- you can adapt for ccode:
12:32 jcamins_away GROUP BY in the wrong place.
12:32 Judit 23:30:25-13/10 10faf7b5 [request] Init ERROR 1 ID:34 Name:LC/CNIDR zclient/gateway Version:2.0
12:32 Judit 23:30:25-13/10 10faf7b5 [request] Auth none
12:32 Judit have you ever seen something like this:
12:32 nengard kf around?
12:32 nengard i'm missing something simple I'm sure
12:32 nengard i have a working report and a non working report
12:31 pastebot "nengard" at 98.114.30.184 pasted "report help" (21 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/76
12:31 nengard I have need the number of items added to the collection in a time period by collection code
12:31 nengard I'm looking for some report help
12:30 Judit i should stay away from it- i guess
12:29 magnuse ?
12:27 Judit :) wow
12:27 * magnuse never touched that...
12:25 Judit do i need this?
12:25 Judit <listen id="mergeserver">tcp:@:11001</listen>
12:24 magnuse yay!
12:24 Judit :D firts thing i have checked
12:24 magnuse cool, that was the solution for me once, so just checking ;-)
12:23 Judit i can search, receive valid result
12:23 Judit it is
12:23 Judit sure
12:23 magnuse Judit: back to basics: zebra is up and running, right? you can search in the opac and get hits?
12:23 Judit it that TCP not an UDP by any chance?
12:21 Judit re timezones
12:20 Judit slef it is kinda other way around now with the 2 of us
12:20 Judit :)
12:19 slef Judit: yay timezones
12:19 slef zebra, not yaz
12:19 slef it'll show if yaz is listening
12:19 magnuse hm, that sounds like it might be a problem with the config, somehow
12:19 slef you might also find "sudo netstat -pn --udp --listen" useful
12:18 Judit wow, i dont like yaz-client
12:18 Judit yz cient says permanent system error
12:18 Judit lunch? it is pretty late for lunch :)
12:18 magnuse i'm stuck here...
12:18 slef tough, I'm going to lunch and then out!
12:17 Judit dont go anywhere, i will be back
12:17 wahanui OK, slef.
12:17 slef wahanui: yaz-client is http://www.indexdata.com/yaz/doc/yaz-client.html
12:17 wahanui slef: I forgot yaz-client
12:17 slef wahanui: forget yaz-client
12:17 wahanui rumour has it yaz-client is the next debugging step
12:17 Judit yaz-client!
12:17 magnuse http://www.indexdata.com/yaz/doc/yaz-client.html
12:16 slef let me find a better link so I can tell wahanui something more useful
12:16 kmkale #koha can i have a show of hands to see who are attending kohacon11?
12:16 slef part of the indexdata zebra tools
12:16 wahanui well, yaz-client is the next debugging step....
12:16 Judit what is yaz-client?
12:16 wahanui yaz-client is the next debugging step....
12:16 Judit yaz-client?
12:16 slef like magnuse suggests :)
12:16 slef Judit: test with yaz-client ?
12:15 magnuse have you tried connecting to it from localhost?
12:15 Judit nice try :)
12:15 magnuse ah, ok
12:15 Judit but i didnt
12:15 Judit it is
12:15 magnuse hm, i think it's possible to set a password for z39.50?
12:14 Judit i have
12:14 Judit oh yes
12:14 Judit and the error is acces denied
12:14 jwagner Have you verified the Koha database name and port number?
12:13 kf I have never used this feature :(
12:13 Judit i can
12:13 Judit yes
12:13 jwagner You can ping it from outside your network?
12:13 kf perhaps some authentication mode activated?
12:12 Judit i can ping the port
12:12 kf could be the reason
12:12 Judit nope
12:12 kf firewall perhaps?
12:12 jwagner Judit, are you sure the incoming port is open at your firewall?
12:12 kf hm
12:11 Judit http://www.loc.gov/z3950/test.html
12:11 Judit from outside
12:11 Judit using this to test
12:11 Judit any idea why is this error message Server access denied
12:11 kf z39.50 download into koha or accessing a koha db from outside via z39.50?
12:11 Judit so
12:10 Judit :D
12:10 kf :)
12:10 kf right, that explains it
12:10 Judit well, it is almost tmorrow here
12:10 magnuse me neither
12:10 kf I am so not up to date
12:10 magnuse it is? wow! ;-)
12:10 kf no!
12:10 Judit didnt you know?
12:09 Judit hi
12:09 Judit z39.50 is the new ji:)
12:09 Judit i knw
12:09 Judit yesyes
12:09 Judit i have set it up in koha but i receive server acces denied
12:09 kf not hi but z39.50? :)
12:09 Judit ehm, z39.50
12:08 kf hi Judit :)
12:08 Judit hi
12:07 magnuse there are also PPAs for ubuntu: https://launchpad.net/~koha
12:06 amt768 procedure not working as in link
12:06 kf when downloading koha there are also files named INSTALL.* with installation guides for various distributions
12:06 kf there is the wiki page, and the packages are under debian.koha-community.org
12:05 kf I have posted you the link a bit earlier: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.4_on_Debian_Squeeze
12:05 amt768 any body guide me to do so
12:05 amt768 I have not found the solution to install koha on ubuntu 11.04
12:04 amt768 j
12:04 druthb hi, kmkale! :)
12:04 amt768 hello there
12:04 kmkale hi druthb
12:03 kf slef: thx :)
12:01 jwagner Hi Amit_Gupta. Not coming to this year's, but hoping for next year's
12:01 Amit_Gupta jwagner: ru coming
12:01 Amit_Gupta heya jwagner
12:01 slef I'd like to have dates by kohacon11 if we can but nYAAAAAAAAARGH :)
12:00 jwagner OK, will look forward to it. I'm hoping/planning to go
11:59 Amit_Gupta heya slef
11:59 druthb hi, kf. :)
11:59 slef we'll get the basic dates / part of the city together first
11:59 kf hi druthb :)
11:59 druthb o/
11:59 slef yeah, I appreciate that
11:59 slef Seriously, we a little bit at the mercy of mercenary venues. I don't think we have a co-op venue that would give us preferential treatment.
11:58 jwagner It would be nice to get a jump on airfare etc....
11:58 slef jwagner: when they're ready.
11:58 jwagner slef, speaking of Edinburgh, roughly when do you anticipate having dates, details, etc. available? Next month or so?
11:57 slef kf: email address?
11:57 kf http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.4_on_Debian_Squeeze
11:57 wahanui :)
11:57 slef wahanui: have a botsnack :)
11:57 wahanui edinburgh is for sure now
11:57 slef edinburgh!
11:57 amt ok
11:57 kf there is also a wiki page explainign about it
11:56 kf debian packages are at debian.koha-community.org
11:56 amt let me know the procedure
11:56 kf debian packages?
11:56 kf and will make it very easy to update too
11:56 kf amt: it's the easiest way to install koha
11:56 kf amt: for ubuntu you might want to consider the debian packages
11:56 kf hi Amit_Gupta
11:56 amt i am getting prb to install koha in ubuntu 11
11:55 Amit_Gupta heya kf ;)
11:55 kf wahanui is our bot, don't get confused by him
11:55 amt ok
11:55 kf then is <reply>
11:54 wahanui kf: I forgot then
11:54 kf wahanui: forget then
11:54 wahanui i guess then is equal to later.
11:54 amt then?
11:54 kf what do you intend to do? for a production system a koha live cd might not be the way you want to go
11:54 amt how will you guide me?
11:54 kf amt: we have seen your first question :)
11:53 wahanui i already had it that way, amt.
11:53 amt can it is possible to install koha live cd on hard drive
11:53 kf slef: can you cc me?
11:53 slef kf: yes, we should. I'm opening a bug.
11:53 amt can it is possible to install koha live cd on hard drive
11:53 kf it's only a matter of moving some files around, perhaps we should get that done before 3.8
11:53 kf not much sense in that then
11:53 kf hm
11:52 slef sample_notices is already mandatory
11:52 kf slef: yep, those 2
11:52 jwagner message transports is what you're looking for, I think
11:52 kf and perhaps would make sense to have them recommended
11:52 slef the files are called sample_notices_message_attributes and sample_notices_message_transports I think
11:52 kf although sample_notices are always good in my opinion
11:52 kf message type something
11:52 kf hm not sample notices
11:51 slef ok, so the bug is: sample_notices_* should be mandatory?
11:51 kf they should be the same for all libraries, so reloading should not cause any trouble
11:51 slef but then how would they have any table content?
11:51 kf as a reason
11:51 slef I'll offer to reload for them.
11:51 kf ah, than probably not being checked in web installer
11:51 slef kf: missing some table content I think
11:50 kf for the latter exists a script
11:49 kf slef: are you missing the table content or the patrons are missing the preferences?
11:49 kf hm, I think that's a different problem
11:49 nengard no?
11:49 nengard ooo ? that first one might be it ?
11:49 * slef fires up the web
11:49 slef damnit
11:48 huginn slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5647 normal, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW , Enhanced Notices are using name and not id
11:48 huginn slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5539 enhancement, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW , Options for Suggestion Emails
11:48 huginn slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4171 enhancement, P5, ---, cnighswonger, NEW , overduerules.pl needs an overhaul
11:48 huginn slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4819 enhancement, P5, ---, chris, NEW , Add ID tags to certain areas of OPAC so jquery can be used to hide them
11:48 huginn slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5918 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , When AddPatronLists is set to "general" and EnhancedMessagingPreferences is set, messaging prefs not copied from defaults
11:48 slef @query enhanced messaging
11:48 kf message_transport_types might also be missing
11:48 kf so should be mandatory
11:48 kf slef: I think thre should. messages don't work without and you can't configure it from the GUI
11:47 nengard not attributes ? if that helps in searching
11:47 slef shouldn't there be?
11:47 nengard kf slef I call it enhanced messaging
11:47 kf but I have been there... wondering what's gone wrong
11:47 kf not from me at least
11:47 kf I think
11:47 kf there is no bug for that
11:47 huginn slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4925 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Remove Smithsonian as a delivered z39.50 target
11:47 huginn slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4418 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Enable required option for patron attributes
11:47 huginn slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3642 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Modify Overdue.pl export to include other borrower information
11:47 huginn slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2810 normal, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , corrupt marc data is causing the commit_biblios_file.pl to abort
11:47 huginn slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2847 normal, P1, ---, oleonard, NEW , Use HTML escape in templates where appropriate
11:47 slef @query attributes
11:47 kf so some tables are empty if you forget to check them during install
11:47 slef yeah, I'll offer to reload them from SQL
11:47 kf which they should be
11:47 kf the problem is, they are not mandatory in web installer
11:47 nengard yeah, I have one of those too and I'm so confused
11:47 kf reload them from the sql files
11:47 slef and that's really strange
11:46 kf oh
11:46 kf message attributes?
11:46 slef I'm looking at a koha where some of them are missing
11:46 nengard hehe
11:46 nengard or that :)
11:46 hdl slef: you add entry in sql.
11:46 nengard it's all or nothing
11:46 nengard you can't
11:46 slef how does a librarian add or remove message attributes?
11:46 nengard ??
11:45 slef nengard! kf! help! ;-)
11:25 kf wizzyrea: around? :)
10:06 kmkale going well
10:05 slef hi kmkale - how goes it?
10:05 kmkale hi slef
10:05 slef I'd blacklist that phrase, except maybe then I would miss email from nengard
10:05 slef heh, more spam addressed to "Nicole C. Engard"
10:05 kmkale hi Amit_Gupta
10:05 Amit_Gupta heya kmkale
09:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6938 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, ASSIGNED , The "Subscription History" public and private note fields have gone missing
09:58 jenkins_koha robin: Bug 6938 - replace two subscription fields that were incorrectly removed
09:58 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #476: SUCCESS in 48 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/476/
09:44 kmkale thanks paul
09:42 paul_p kmkale: http://drupal.biblibre.com/sites/all/themes/biblibre/logo.png
09:39 kmkale paul_p: need artwork of your company logo asap
09:37 kf hdl: not going to india this year, but scotland for sure next
09:37 kf hi kmkale :)
09:37 wahanui niihau, paul_p
09:37 paul_p kmkale: hi
09:36 kmkale hi kf hdl
09:36 kmkale ping paul_p
09:35 hdl I think that julian_m will be able to show you if you go to India.
09:34 hdl so am I
09:33 kf glad it works then :)
09:31 hdl he had problems installing solr.
09:31 hdl well just glad he did it.
09:31 * kf is courious about solr :)
09:30 kf I saw that, but was curious about the meaning
09:29 hdl I replied Yooohoo
09:29 hdl Amit_Gupta: said : solr done
09:28 kf I wonderes about your yohooo and the cryptic message exchange
09:28 wahanui it has been said that kf is cait or really, really sweet. or <reply>she gives me memory loss
09:28 hdl kf ?
09:27 kf hdl: ?
09:10 jenkins_koha Starting build 476 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
09:07 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6938 - replace two subscription fields that were incorrectly removed <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2f11d527a0749e86350d62055f289aaee9435848>
08:06 hdl \o/
08:06 hdl yoohooo !!!
07:56 Amit_Gupta hdl solr done
07:52 hdl hi Amit_Gupta.
07:50 Amit_Gupta ?
07:50 Amit_Gupta hdl around
07:50 Amit_Gupta heya hdl
07:39 kf hi hdl :)
07:39 hdl hi all
07:39 kf hi asaurat :)
07:39 asaurat hi !
07:37 kf hi magnuse :)
07:36 magnuse ooops: kf
07:36 magnuse guten morgen kjf
07:36 kf good morning (again) #koha :)
07:05 francharb hello everyonr
07:03 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6803] Removing remote include in MODS xslt <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6803>
07:03 reiveune hi marcelr
07:03 julian_m hello marcelr
07:03 marcelr hi julian_m and reiveune
07:02 julian_m hello
06:54 reiveune Hello
06:48 cait I always find those things when doing presentations
06:48 cait it's been annoying
06:47 cait thx for your work on it :)
06:47 marcelr hi cait; thanks for signing those two encoding patches
06:47 cait morning marcelr :)
06:40 marcelr hello koha
06:37 cait I tried linking from 110 to a corporate author
06:36 cait I can't link authorities on current master in cataloging
06:36 cait can someone do a quick test for me?
06:36 cait morning ropuch, magnuse, mtj and alex_a
06:33 magnuse :-(
06:31 mtj yeah, ship happens :/
06:30 magnuse so sad to hear about that container ship falling apart!
06:29 magnuse kia ora mtj
06:29 mtj heya alex_a and magnuse :)
06:28 alex_a hi magnuse
06:28 magnuse hiya alex_a and #koha
06:27 alex_a hello #koha
06:26 ropuch Morning #koha
06:25 cait hm
05:50 cait bye
05:48 eythian bye!
05:48 eythian can you add something asking me to, I'm heading now and I'll forget otherwise
05:47 cait can you clarify on the bug? :)
05:47 cait ok
05:46 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6904] Suggestion status 'pending' and 'asked' <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6904>
05:45 eythian I should have given it its own bug, yeah
05:45 eythian the others go on top of it
05:45 eythian well, the basic reply-to stuff (the first patch) is standalone
05:44 cait do I need to apply all 3 patches for testing?
05:44 cait hmpf :)
05:44 cait and you could have given it his own bug
05:43 eythian hmm, good point I suppose.
05:43 cait passwords in new account
05:42 eythian why not?
05:42 cait hm and addresschange
05:42 cait we can't put that in message queue I guesss
05:41 cait what about the 'new account' thing?
05:41 eythian cool :)
05:41 cait good that I can send mail from my laptop now :)
05:40 cait yeah
05:40 wahanui Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world.
05:40 eythian wahanui: germs.
05:39 eythian But, it'll need a lot of testing, it touches a lot of the mail systems.
05:39 eythian yeah, it's been bothering me for ages.
05:39 cait eythian: I remember us talking about it at kohacon last year :)
05:39 cait eythian: I think I might forgive you the germs for 6973 :)
05:38 cait oh 6973
05:38 Amit_Gupta heya cait
05:27 cait ah found him, was hiding
05:27 cait no huginn?
05:15 cait hi eythian :)
05:14 eythian hi cait
05:09 cait good morning #koha
04:31 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6925 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, juan.sieira, ASSIGNED , The way to show the plural of a word is not compatible with multilanguage
04:31 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6840 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , error in Template.pm in logs
04:31 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6912 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, ASSIGNED , OPAC display crashes for analytical biblio without 008 field
04:31 jenkins_koha * juan.sieira: Bug 6925 : The way to show the plural of the word "Item" is not compatible with multilanguage
04:31 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6885 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, ASSIGNED , Superlibrarian users can't delete items from another library when IndependantBranches
04:31 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Bug 6840 warning in logs
04:31 jenkins_koha * f.demians: Bug 6912 Test 008 presence in get CoinS function
04:31 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 6885 Follow up to fix superlibarian permission check
04:31 jenkins_koha * f.demians: Bug 6885 Allow superlib to delete items from any library
04:31 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #475: SUCCESS in 47 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/475/
04:30 libsysguy off for the night…cya tomorrow
04:20 Oak welcome back then... :)
04:18 rangi back from the bus
04:17 Oak hello Amit_Gupta :)
04:17 Amit_Gupta heya Oak
04:17 Oak kia ora #koha
04:07 libsysguy haha true story bg
04:06 * rangi goes to catch the bus
04:06 rangi hometime
04:05 bg :)
04:04 bg always let a girlfriend win
04:04 libsysguy that is how i was feeling when I played my gf
04:04 bg it's been awhile since I've played but I used to be decent
04:04 bg yeah pool is great!
03:54 libsysguy I love to play though
03:54 rangi :)
03:54 libsysguy I'm pretty competitive
03:54 libsysguy it actually came out to a tie rangi…I was disappointed in myself
03:54 libsysguy true…but she wants to go back there to get married in one of thier big churches
03:54 rangi who won at pool
03:54 rangi the big question is
03:54 libsysguy LOL!
03:53 jcamins libsysguy: this doesn't seem such a problem for you... didn't I hear that your girlfriend is Swedish? She's already outside her home country. ;)
03:53 libsysguy heh
03:53 bg heh reed
03:53 rangi reef
03:53 rangi douchebag container ship, trying to race to get into the harbour hit a reed
03:52 libsysguy and jcamins yes…don't tell my girlfriend
03:52 rangi http://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/rena-crisis/5776790/Deeply-sorry-for-your-situation-Renas-owner
03:52 libsysguy dang...
03:52 jcamins Has anyone else noticed that most of the marriage proposals on #koha seem to take place somewhere other than the participants' home countries?
03:52 rangi its a bloody mess
03:52 rangi still going
03:52 libsysguy oh oh rangi wasn't there an oil spill close to new zealand?
03:52 rangi who all had a drumline march them down the aisle?
03:51 rangi hehe
03:51 bg not bad for an american woman
03:51 bg noice!
03:51 rangi mine was in tokyo
03:51 wahanui I LIKE SPACE AND MY WIFE
03:51 bg NateC?
03:51 bg yup
03:51 rangi nate has a good one too
03:50 bg they are all great - cause it's the story that matters!
03:50 bg jcamins - that's great!
03:50 Amit_Gupta marrage->marriage
03:50 jcamins I highly doubt it.
03:49 libsysguy bg gets the #Koha best marrage proposal award…any takers for a better story
03:49 jcamins My proposal was very anticlimactic, I think. I turned to Shari and said "hey, let's get engaged." Her response was "okay, when?" To which I said "now." And that was it. :\
03:49 bg yo Amit_Gupta
03:49 rangi :)
03:49 Amit_Gupta heya bg
03:49 bg a girl's got to have a story right?
03:49 rangi :)
03:49 Amit_Gupta wow
03:49 rangi yeah beat that !
03:49 jcamins Wow, what a great proposal!
03:48 libsysguy wow ^^
03:48 bg I actually proposed to Sonja on christmas morning as the sun rose at the Taj Mahal
03:48 libsysguy was it arranged? serious question*
03:48 bg Sonja and I went for a friends wedding
03:48 * jcamins always buys spices when he goes interesting places.
03:48 jcamins I don't blame you.
03:48 jcamins bg: when/why/where were you in India before?
03:47 bg I'm planning on getting as much as I can fit
03:47 bg :)
03:47 bg a tin of curry is like 2.50 usd
03:47 bg no worries man
03:47 libsysguy bg I can wire you some money over paypal or something to set me up
03:47 bg so when I get indian food here - I don't get anything creamy - makes a big difference
03:46 bg I think it's the cream - we use different stuff here
03:46 libsysguy that is what I hear
03:45 bg but the real india food didn't/doesn't do the same
03:45 jcamins Okay, just checking. :)
03:45 libsysguy so I get the full experience…kind of
03:45 libsysguy yes there are a lot of Indian grad students here
03:45 bg the india food here - expands when it hits my stomach
03:45 jcamins That too.
03:45 bg and it's a completely different food
03:45 jcamins libsysguy: you know that Indian food in America is nowhere near as spicy as Indian food in India, right?
03:45 bg you'll need to send me your address
03:45 bg ok cool - I'll get you a tin of curry powder
03:45 libsysguy there is a place here that makes the best Thai red curry I have ever had
03:44 bg 28th to the 6th
03:44 libsysguy red for sure…and the spicier the better
03:44 jcamins bg: how long will you be in India?
03:44 bg libsysguy: spicy or just normal - red, green?
03:43 jenkins_koha Starting build 475 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
03:43 jenkins_koha m.de.rooy: 6278 Funny translation bug with XSLT subfieldSelect parameters
03:43 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #474: SUCCESS in 48 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/474/
03:42 jcamins Also, I think KohaCon coincides with the major conference in Slavic Studies, where I'm presenting on a very star-studded panel.
03:42 bg no problem
03:42 * libsysguy loves curry
03:42 bg of course!
03:41 libsysguy can you bring back a poor college student some curry?
03:41 bg yes I am - my second time there
03:41 jcamins Actually, it's probably because of my experience almost crashing into Baku.
03:41 bg heh get a boat :) you'd have plenty of time to catalog :)
03:41 libsysguy bg you going to India?
03:40 bg ahhh… no way
03:40 bg for you? nothing is too far
03:40 jcamins Believe it or not, for someone who managed to cross the Atlantic five times in one year, I hate flying.
03:40 jcamins bg: nah, too far.
03:40 bg jcamins you going to india?
03:38 bg I think on the plane flights coming up I'll have enough time to finish the other two
03:38 jcamins Awesome books!
03:38 bg about half way through fellowship
03:38 * bg is currently rereading LOTR
03:37 bg HA
03:37 jcamins [off] Yeah, if I'd had time to read the books.
03:37 bg if it's something you like I guess
03:37 bg oh book review? sounds fun
03:37 bg it's only 23:00
03:37 jcamins bg: yeah, stupid book review. :(
03:37 bg oh wait - timezone fail
03:36 bg wowie
03:36 bg jcamins you're still up?
03:36 bg hey Amit_Gupta
03:36 libsysguy huzzaah…inverted index engine successfully rewritten in OOPerl :D
03:33 jcamins Amit_Gupta: you're welcome. It would have been a shame for the code to not get into 3.6, either.
03:32 libsysguy but the object oriented version is well over 100
03:32 Amit_Gupta thanks jacamins
03:32 libsysguy and yes…i wrote it as a script first and did it in 38 lines (its basic)
03:32 jcamins ;)
03:32 jcamins I use irssi.
03:32 libsysguy there should be a font for that
03:32 jcamins That was supposed to convey shock and awe at your bravery.
03:32 libsysguy oops
03:32 libsysguy oh hehe
03:32 libsysguy or parts of C4
03:32 jcamins Oh, I know what it is.
03:31 libsysguy yeah…its normal perl written with Object Oriented paradigm in mind…like the new Koha modules that will be replacing C4
03:31 jcamins Object-oriented Perl?
03:30 libsysguy indeed
03:30 libsysguy in object oriented perl…i feel i have made a bad choice
03:30 jcamins From scratch, indexing engine and everything?
03:30 jcamins Oh?
03:30 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6925 : The way to show the plural of the word "Item" is not compatible with multi... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=518710878972a72b8d7b306af571b7c543267ddd> / Bug 6840 warning in logs <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=37902b25a7aa5c9e1b3f90e8cbb50741b27dae1d>
03:30 libsysguy im writing a search engine for class
03:30 jcamins Well, book review.
03:30 jcamins_away Writing a paper.
03:30 Amit_Gupta heya jcamins
03:30 * jcamins_away isn't here.
03:29 jcamins_away :)
03:29 libsysguy jcamins_away: you are going to have to just leave it jcamins when you are away and when you are here you can say jcamins_present
03:27 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5528 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, tajoli, ASSIGNED , Analytical records support
03:27 jcamins_away Amit_Gupta: you'll be glad to know that the analytics code (bug 5528) made it in.
03:27 Amit_Gupta ah!
03:26 libsysguy you know how librarians love the books heh
03:25 Amit_Gupta hmm
03:25 libsysguy yes I think she bought it thinking it was was a guide to using Koha not installing it :p
03:25 Amit_Gupta yes book written by Amit Gupta and Savitra
03:24 Amit_Gupta yes koha 3 library management system
03:24 libsysguy :)
03:24 Amit_Gupta hyea libsysguy
03:23 libsysguy hey Amit…I knew that name looked familiar…one of our librarians bought your book on Koha 3
03:21 rangi hiya Amit_Gupta
03:21 Amit_Gupta good morning
03:21 Amit_Gupta heya chris
03:08 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6912 Test 008 presence in get CoinS function <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7621591ae697328798a44a95757352a147e33d72>
03:01 bg oh yeah 10 days man - 10 days
02:58 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6885 Follow up to fix superlibarian permission check <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=cdd798ec3216c6019adccc40935e93736ce4dc3b> / Bug 6885 Allow superlib to delete items from any library <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b64dbb246c8f29ac1c5e40b88a1f26f8d207b18d> / 6278 Funny translation bug with XSLT subfieldSelect parameters <http://git.koha-community.org/g
02:54 jenkins_koha Starting build 474 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
02:51 libsysguy interesting…ok thanks rangi++
02:50 rangi you
02:50 rangi youre variable contains 0, not a hashref is what that error is telling on
02:50 libsysguy hmm maybe I've referenced it wrong
02:50 rangi you cant use an integer as an actual hashref :)
02:49 rangi thats the whole hashref
02:49 rangi thats not a hash key
02:49 rangi yeah
02:49 libsysguy i keep getting an error Can't use string ("0") as a HASH ref while "strict refs"
02:48 libsysguy Does anybody know if you can use integers as perl hash keys?
02:39 jcamins Heh. I hadn't noticed that.
02:36 rangi theres less bacon ipsum
02:35 rangi hope some ppl got screenshots
02:35 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7020] Items with no checkouts report does not output call number, barcode or item details <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7020>
02:35 rangi they are fixing it
02:31 eythian http://www.act.org.nz/policies <-- better policies than most, really
02:26 rangi done
02:15 rangi patch isnt in git format but ill soon fix that
02:14 wizzyrea o/ HIGHFIVE \o
02:14 rangi awesome
02:14 rangi bug report, and a patch from a school district all in one
02:14 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7020 minor, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Items with no checkouts report does not output call number, barcode or item details
02:14 rangi bug 7020
02:11 jcamins mtj: what about verbose AND incomprehensible?
02:11 mtj 'verbose and readable' > 'tight but incomprehensible'
02:11 jcamins rangi++
02:11 jcamins rangi: hooray!
02:10 rangi jcamins: 5528 is pushed :)
02:10 jcamins Beautiful, isn't it?
02:10 * jcamins votes for adding the following variable into every single file, just to mess with people: $thisiStHemOstiMportantvAriableyOuwIlleVereNcounteraNdyOuwIllsPendfArmOretImetHanyOuwAnttOaDmittRyingtOfIgureoUtwHy.
02:09 mtj .. people 'compressing' a perfectly readable block of code, into a brainfxed one-liner
02:07 mtj yeah, thats my *big* pet peeve too
02:07 eythian or really long expressions that shouldn't be so long
02:07 mtj either too much indentation, or $NamesThat_are_wayToo_long_DotCom' ...
02:06 eythian PBP says that by the time you've read that far to the right, a) scanning back left is hard, and b) you're starting to load up on too information and will start forgetting things.
02:05 mtj ... which was a comment that made me have a good think
02:05 eythian yeah.
02:05 mtj linus has a good post about linux-kernal code, saying 'if you cant fit your code happily in a 80 column window, its probably a too-complex block of code'
02:03 eythian $a_suffusion_of_yellow
02:02 mtj ... is that you can get away with $way_too_big_names_for_stuff_dot_com naming in your code :/
02:02 eythian ...you can't spread them 3-wide on a normal sized screen?
02:01 mtj you know.... one of the problems that you get with 178 column editors
00:05 Judit good night:)
00:00 slef ok, back in 9h or so