Time Nick Message 23:57 slef I'd just like to mutter "bah, this code says LibLime all over it". I think I've earned that ;) 23:55 slef I didn't find it in http://manual.koha-community.org/3.4/en/ 23:54 Judit scary question 23:54 slef I'm probably getting this horribly wrong :) 23:54 slef no worries... I'm surprised no-one else is talking here 23:54 Judit :) 23:54 slef hi caps lock :) 23:54 Judit sorry 23:54 Judit OH 23:54 Judit THANKS FOR LOOKING INTO THIS 23:53 slef can't find it in 3.5... this is strange. I think it would be worth asking the koha@lists.katipo.co.nz how one edits the message_attributes, if it's not in the manual. Would you mind? 23:51 slef I'm a bit puzzled. At least in 3.2.9, it looks like there's no interface to it except using a mysql client... now checking 3.5 23:44 slef I probably should just log into Koha. Maybe that'd be quicker 23:43 slef yeah... I'm trying to look up where you define them now 23:42 Judit so it depends on the messgae attributes not on the sample notices? 23:42 slef aha, got it back 23:41 slef and I've just broke my terminal :) 23:41 slef it looks like you need to define some message_attributes to get the box to appear on the page you were looking at 23:41 Judit sorry 23:41 Judit it was 6am- yesterday when i did it, i dont remember 23:40 slef ah... did you load sample_notices_message_attributes? 23:39 slef ok, so what I actually need to ponder is message_attributes.message_attribute_id = message_transports.message_attribute_id 23:39 slef I've often asked for 36h days but hey, where's my ambition 23:39 slef mmm 61h days... I need some of those 23:38 slef it's not just me, is it? those names are a bit close 23:38 Judit not 61 23:38 Judit 16!! 23:38 Judit maybe it is the 61h day, you know 23:38 Judit :) 23:38 slef bloody stupid naming 23:38 slef that says GetMessagingOptions 23:37 slef I was looking at GetMessagingPreferences 23:37 slef arrrrrrrrrrgh 23:37 slef 23:37 slef PREF: foreach my $option ( @$messaging_options ) { 23:37 slef my $messaging_options = C4::Members::Messaging::GetMessagingOptions(); 23:37 slef # walk through the options and update them with these borrower_preferences 23:37 slef there's this bit: 23:36 slef Like I don't mean why it doesn't work in your case... I mean why it ever works. 23:36 slef This could be because a) it doesn't in the version I'm looking at OR b) it's 00:35 and I've just done a 16h day :) 23:35 slef I don't actually understand how this bit works at all. 23:35 Judit so i am not the only one- good! 23:35 slef ok, I'm confused :) 23:35 slef or is it 23:35 Judit :D 23:35 slef ok, that's irrelevant actually 23:34 Judit ehm 23:33 slef it means I've something to think about :) 23:33 slef message_attributes.message_name = ? 23:33 slef borrower_message_transport_preferences.borrower_message_preference_id = borrower_message_preferences.borrower_message_preference_id / message_attributes.message_attribute_id = borrower_message_preferences.message_attribute_id / message_transports.message_attribute_id = message_attributes.message_attribute_id AND message_transports.message_transport_type = borrower_message_transport_preferences.message_transport_type WHERE 23:33 Judit :) 23:33 Judit does that mean good or bad? 23:33 slef oooh yuck :) 23:32 slef C4::Members::Messaging::GetMessagingOptions 23:31 slef C4::Form::MessagingPreferences::set_form_values({ categorycode => $categorycode } , $template); 23:31 slef Judit: ok, I'm looking that up... excuse my mumbling for a moment 23:30 slef magnus_away: thanks for saying my name ;-) 23:30 slef liw: yeah, we've the usual fun with other events that can outbid us. We'll nail it down and be very very noisy as soon as we can. 23:30 Judit koha/admin/categorie.pl?op=add_form&categorycode=L 23:28 slef (I'd avoid linking your admin interface in this chat because it ends up on a public website) 23:28 slef the bit from /cgi-bin/ onwards is fine 23:27 slef do you have the URL for the page where you set the default messaging categories handy? 23:27 slef I don't think the current situation makes sense, but maybe someone knows why it is this way. 23:26 slef yeah, I think you're basically right: either we need a way that you can get all the functions with you unticked that; or you shouldn't be able to untick that. 23:25 Judit yes, i did:) 23:25 slef It looks to me like the checkbox for sample_notices is ticked, but you can untick it if you want 23:25 Judit but i still had no box in the patron category 23:25 Judit and i have created new notices - copied and pasted over the subject, name, code, from an other koha 23:25 slef I'll check but not until the morning. 23:24 Judit i dont remember to be honest 23:24 Judit you know the box was missing al together 23:24 Judit but then could not set the default messaging preferences in patron category 23:23 slef was it labelled something like "you really should install this"? 23:23 Judit i have installed a koha-3.4.5- without the sample messages with no problem 23:22 slef Let me check if it looks possible 23:22 slef I think if you can install koha and not install a database part that's in the mandatory collection, that seems like a bug to me. 23:21 Judit yes, like the item due, and advanced notice, item checkout, item check-in, hold filled 23:20 slef when you wrote "default notices", you meant the sample_notices, right? 23:20 slef sample_notices_message_attributes and sample_notices_message_transports are in optional in 3.5 23:19 slef hrm, sample_notices is in mandatory... sort of the wrong name 23:19 Judit and for my first question, if i am right: is that a bug or a feature? 23:19 slef depends on your point of view 23:19 Judit was it his fault or he just takes the blame? 23:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5898 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , search to hold feature not clearing 23:18 slef but sample_notices really seem to be in optional when they are almost required 23:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6977 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, fcapovilla, ASSIGNED , Support for repeated subfields when importing an authority into a biblio record field. 23:18 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Fix for Bug 5898 - search to hold feature not clearing 23:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5630 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , CAS improvements 23:18 jenkins_koha * frederick.capovilla: Bug 6977 : Adds support for repeatable subfields when importing authorities. 23:18 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Bug 5630, follow-up 23:18 jenkins_koha * ian.walls: Bug 5630 Followup: checkpw_ldap not imported 23:18 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 5630 CAS improvements 23:18 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #473: SUCCESS in 47 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/473/ 23:18 slef and I think I read the boat's captain is in court 23:17 slef I'm checking 3.5 / master 23:17 Judit and how bad the situation is with the oil spill? 23:16 Judit and 3.2.9 23:16 Judit 3.4.5 23:16 Judit it this correct? 23:16 Judit even if you create new notices with the same name, subject and code 23:16 Judit if you dont install the default notices during the initial webinstall- you dont have the option to set the Default messaging preferences for the patron categories 23:14 Judit hi 22:31 jenkins_koha Starting build 473 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 22:31 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5528 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, tajoli, ASSIGNED , Analytical records support 22:31 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bumping db version 22:31 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 5528: Analytic records support 22:31 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #472: SUCCESS in 47 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/472/ 22:21 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 5898 - search to hold feature not clearing <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7f6656aff84b2e9e47dd3317e8c72d69aaa8e433> 22:11 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6977 : Adds support for repeatable subfields when importing authorities. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f97726406697f7973d2f8118049acaac2f95a3ed> 22:01 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5630, follow-up <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1c0702c76e50173289a0ee340a9c5f190515d9c3> / Bug 5630 Followup: checkpw_ldap not imported <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=74c7c4e3a5d6a3ec20b525936c5ffe2f9b188744> / Bug 5630 CAS improvements <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=046c996c2fa8150b8c6a037976c9c22826e04b8b> 22:00 JoeLib001 'cause I wouldn't call that a feature. :-) 22:00 JoeLib001 Is there a place where I could enter the problem as a bug? 21:58 JoeLib001 Hehe. :-) 21:58 bg it wouldn't be there anymore ;) heh 21:58 JoeLib001 Ah. 21:58 JoeLib001 Anyone know what would happen, if I just delete the Z39.50 Server entry from the z3950 table? 21:58 bg JoeLib001: you can most likely just remove it from the database instead of using the GUI 21:57 JoeLib001 :-) 21:57 NateC at least im not worried about falling into the ocean though 21:57 bg love it 21:57 wahanui I LIKE SPACE AND MY WIFE 21:57 bg NateC? 21:57 huginn JoeLib001: The current temperature in WWater Treatment, Cleburne, Texas is 26.1�C (4:51 PM CDT on October 12, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 32%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 28.97 in 980.9 hPa (Falling). 21:57 JoeLib001 @wunder 76031 21:57 NateC yeah rub it in 21:57 bg eat that NateC 21:56 huginn bg: The current temperature in Third Avenue Park, West Haven, Connecticut is 15.3�C (5:50 PM EDT on October 12, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1018.8 hPa (Falling). 21:56 bg @wunder 06516 21:56 bg I think that's the highest that I've seen 21:56 bg holy shit that's a high! 21:56 huginn bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 34.9�C (2:55 PM PDT on October 12, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 20%. Dew Point: 9.0�C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007.0 hPa (Steady). 21:56 bg @wunder 93109 21:56 JoeLib001 I am unable to delete a Z39.50 Server entry. I think it is because I put a + in the title . 21:50 ibeardslee classy 21:49 rangi heh 21:49 eythian http://imgur.com/r/reddit.com/YZnHu 21:47 rangi not landing in the US 21:47 eythian cait: yeah 21:47 rangi thats it 21:47 cait esta? 21:47 eythian ah cool 21:47 rangi but no direct akl to van 21:47 rangi yeah, its still valid from ALA 21:47 rangi i knew i didnt last time, but who knows 21:47 eythian I doubt you'd need one for there, unless you're going via the US in which case you'll have to use there "I promise I won't take over the plane" system 21:46 rangi i dont 21:46 rangi phew 21:46 rangi bit screwed if thats not the case ;) 21:46 rangi but i just assumed i dont need one for canada 21:45 rangi i probably should check 21:45 cait you are really going :) 21:45 rangi awesome 21:45 cait whoohoo 21:45 * eythian has his passport back with an Indian visa in it. 21:43 jenkins_koha Starting build 472 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 21:43 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5459 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , merging records loses holds from one 21:43 jenkins_koha Chris Cormack: Bug 5459 - Holds not being shifted when merging biblios 21:43 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #471: SUCCESS in 48 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/471/ 21:31 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bumping db version <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d205c2795799821bfb560109b841eafac7b239b1> / Bug 5528: Analytic records support <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f09e2ca27ee89860dbdd0ca512735f37fbfaf8a6> 20:54 jenkins_koha Starting build 471 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 20:51 rangi :) 20:50 wizzyrea so excited about that one 20:49 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5459 - Holds not being shifted when merging biblios <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=71defcbc6c851f54da223c040aa5d95e0bd43b73> 20:42 wizzyrea ok right. backups. 20:42 cait hehe 20:42 wizzyrea lol 20:41 rangi https://twitter.com/#!/wowser/status/124133829572169728 20:41 wizzyrea I was hoping 20:41 wizzyrea drat. 20:41 wizzyrea ! 20:41 wizzyrea ! is www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1Y73sPHKxw 20:40 trea that's what i hear in my head 20:40 wizzyrea you are welcome 20:40 rangi heh 20:39 wizzyrea www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1Y73sPHKxw 20:39 wizzyrea hehe 20:39 trea bum bum BUMMMMMMMM 20:38 rangi dead i say 20:38 rangi we are all dead 20:38 rangi if you figure out how to do that with js 20:37 gmcharlt and, yes, adding a field doesn't mean that opac-userupate.pl would automatically know what to do it with it 20:37 cait depends what the software does with it 20:37 gmcharlt but it can't, in and of itself, populate that 'sort1' field for you with existing data unless it's already being passwd back in the template 20:37 cait yeah 20:37 maximep the problem is probably saving the field 20:36 gmcharlt trea: yeah, you can use jquery to do enough DOM manipulation to create an input field 20:36 cait hm not sure that will work 20:34 trea can you use jquery to add an input field to a form? ie, adding "sort1" to opac-userupdate.pl 20:22 rangi :) 20:22 rangi c'mon you know you all want to! 20:21 cait there, something nice and shiny to sign off :) 20:21 rangi who wants to sign off on that 20:21 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6390] Basket only visible for librarian who created it <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6390> 20:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6390 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, ef, ASSIGNED , Basket only visible for librarian who created it 20:21 rangi oh bug 6390 20:21 wizzyrea haha 20:21 rangi :) 20:21 huginn gmcharlt: Not yet - wait 10 days 20:21 gmcharlt @arewethereyet 20:21 gmcharlt let's try this again 20:21 rangi i still havent finished my presentation 20:21 wizzyrea oh. 20:20 rangi better not be 20:20 wizzyrea woohoo! 20:20 gmcharlt liar 20:20 huginn gmcharlt: YES! 20:20 gmcharlt @arewethereyet 20:12 jcamins Very good news. 20:12 rangi it will get pushed sometime today 20:12 jcamins rangi++ 20:12 jcamins Yippee! 20:12 rangi barring any suprises 20:11 rangi im doing checks on it this morning 20:11 jcamins Woohoo! 20:11 rangi jcamins: 5528 passed qa 20:11 mle tired, but happy. on the train. dealing with the loud people talking ON THE PHONE. ;) 20:11 rangi hows you? 20:11 rangi good thanks, frantically trying to finish a presentation, and deal with a release in 9ish days 20:10 mle how are you? 20:10 mle hey rangi 20:09 rangi hi mle 20:06 mle : ) 19:50 chris_n I was rather thinking of an automated one 19:49 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7016] CanBookBeReserved uses GetItemsInfo unnecessarily <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7016> 19:49 chris_n well... that would be one other thing to keep up with 19:49 libsysguy ^^ 19:49 slef so add one 19:46 chris_n the topic bar needs a count-down timer to release day 19:46 chris_n 10 days and counting 19:44 libsysguy tis...that way it keeps the url clean 19:44 * jcamins is inclined to say that session is preferable. 19:43 libsysguy i've done it using catalyst but im sure it wouldn't be too much different with the Koha base 19:43 libsysguy either way would be easy 19:43 libsysguy well we could either stash searches in the session or in the url 19:42 libsysguy hehe cait 19:42 cait my automatic translation program does a good job, eh? ;) 19:42 jcamins libsysguy++ # for volunteering to have Koha remember searches. 19:42 libsysguy I thought it would be 19:42 jcamins It'd be easy. 19:42 libsysguy just a random thought 19:42 libsysguy yeah like what cait said 19:41 jcamins You mean, populating the advanced search boxes? 19:41 libsysguy basically pre-populate the advanced search form 19:41 cait I would like that 19:41 cait remembering the last search 19:41 cait hm 19:41 jcamins libsysguy: what do you mean? 19:41 huginn libsysguy: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready 19:41 libsysguy huginn replies to @random? 19:41 wizzyrea http://play.aadl.org/ 19:41 huginn libsysguy: I suck 19:41 libsysguy @random....how hard would it be to push the url variables from a current search into the advanced search if a user navigated there? 19:39 rangi oh look i commented on that blog too 19:39 jcamins She was one of the catalogers at my undergrad institution. 19:39 rangi http://coffeecode.net/archives/234-Responding-to-the-Evergreen-research-article-in-Information-Technology-and-Libraries.html 19:39 rhcl whois melissa hofmann 19:39 rangi *nod* 19:38 jcamins Yeah... if you look at the dates of the study, it becomes clear... their data was three years old. 19:38 rangi etc 19:38 rangi evergreen also has rss feeds 19:37 rangi i remember dan scott pointed out a lot of the flaws for evergreen in a blog post 19:37 rangi not true for either Koha or evergreen 19:37 rangi nor is there any indication that the search is ANDed 19:37 rangi there is no option to choose OR or NOT between rows, 19:37 rangi all obvious to the user. In the demo OPACs examined, 19:37 rangi however, the terms are ANDed only, a fact that is not at 19:37 rangi In Koha’s and Evergreen’s advanced search, 19:36 rangi yeah exactly 19:35 jcamins Not a single Koha catalog represented. 19:35 jcamins Oh, ouch. 19:34 rangi f 19:34 rangi if its the voyager compared one im thinking og 19:34 rangi yeah i think its the quite badly done one im afraid :( 19:34 jcamins This does seem a bit familiar. 19:34 rangi at least im pretty sure it is 19:33 jcamins Wait. 19:33 * jcamins hasn't read it yet. 19:33 rangi 2010 19:33 rangi oh thats an old one 19:33 jcamins Yeah, she just got a publication! http://www.ala.org/ala/mgrps/divs/lita/publications/ital/29/3/yang.pdf 19:33 rangi oh? 19:32 jcamins Ooh, I should congratulate Melissa Hofmann. 19:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7015 enhancement, P5, ---, cnighswonger, NEW , Fixup Template Code to Accommodate More Variety of Label Styles 19:29 * chris_n opens bug 7015 to keep track of this idea 19:21 chris_n hmm... using an xml description of the template specs would allow for a lot greater flexibility in accommodating varieties of templates 19:20 rangi thanks 19:19 chris_n wb rangi 19:18 rangi back 19:15 * chris_n encounters a buffer overrun error while attempting to assign time to his schedule for such a modification 19:14 chris_n the template code will need modification to allow variations in the size of columns 19:14 chris_n yup, just as I suspected 19:12 cait chris_n = talking about labels :) 19:12 cait makes sense 19:11 chris_n gaylord labels 19:11 cait ah, there is a vendor called lsl 19:11 chris_n man, can't spell today :P 19:11 cait seems all I do today is making wahanui forget things 19:11 chris_n ops 19:11 chris_n ed? 19:11 wahanui cait: I forgot edi 19:11 cait forget edi 19:11 wahanui edi is something weve been wanting too 19:11 cait edi? 19:11 cait lsl04? 19:10 rangi ok my stop 19:10 * chris_n examines the lsl04 template 19:08 chris_n I think the problem may come with the template code which assumes all columns on a sheet of labels are the same dimension 19:06 chris_n but I "think" that is what was intended back in days of yore when the code was first created 19:05 chris_n I'm not sure alt will work in the present state of things 19:05 chris_n the proof of the pudding is in the crust as they say 19:05 chris_n hmm... 19:04 jcamins chris_n++ 19:04 jcamins I stand corrected. 19:03 jcamins Huh. 19:03 sekjal back, as well 18:59 rangi :) 18:58 bg hi back 18:57 * cait waves 18:56 rangi back 18:47 huginn libsysguy: The operation succeeded. 18:47 libsysguy @later tell sekjal I'd like to talk about notices when you get some time 18:46 libsysguy sekjal you around 18:41 libsysguy hey #Koha 18:27 Oak me go now. good night \o 18:22 jcamins proven_backups++ # nothing worse than relying on a backup you've never tested. 99.95% chance it'll be corrupted. 18:21 wizzyrea the worst part of this was finding a dang machine to put it on 18:21 wizzyrea lesson kids: almost anything is surmountable if you have good and proven backups. 18:21 wizzyrea not really 18:20 jcamins Was that option on the table? Yikes! You're scary! 18:20 * wizzyrea is glad I didn't make them recatalog them all 18:19 wizzyrea wow, this library has more items than I thought 18:19 wizzyrea hee 18:16 jcamins Bomb diggle... that sounds like a mole that uses explosives. :) 18:16 rangi bbiab 18:16 rangi ok gotta go make breakfast for the kids 18:11 wizzyrea someone buy eythian and liw lunch or something, packages = the bomb diggle. 18:10 wizzyrea gmcharlt++ 18:09 wizzyrea that works a lot better >.> 18:09 wizzyrea oh hey 18:09 bg such a cute face there wizzyrea 18:09 wizzyrea ty >.< 18:09 wizzyrea i forgot that I was moving this from a nozebra to a zebra 18:08 * wizzyrea can fix that 18:08 wizzyrea ok 18:08 wizzyrea hah 18:08 gmcharlt since it means you have NoZebra turned on 18:08 wizzyrea oh dear 18:08 gmcharlt wizzyrea: you should be very, very, very worried 18:08 wizzyrea I did koha-upgrade-to-3.4 18:07 wizzyrea it seems to happen on every bib 18:07 * gmcharlt takes a look 18:07 wizzyrea it's the dev packages 18:06 wizzyrea when running the 3.4 remove items from biblioitems 18:06 wahanui master is probably for 3.6 18:06 gmcharlt wizzyrea: master? 18:06 wizzyrea Use of uninitialized value in pattern match (m//) at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Biblio.pm line 2841. 18:06 wizzyrea should I be worried about this 18:06 wizzyrea speaking of gmcharlt 18:06 wizzyrea it's gmcharlt! 18:06 rangi :) 18:06 gmcharlt it's bg! 18:06 rangi but thats because i use mutt with vim as its editor to write emails 18:05 rangi i do 18:05 bg yeah I'm always using vi commands in email or anything we're I need to type into ( :wq ) !!! heh 18:04 rangi :) 18:04 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2505 major, P1, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , enable Perl warnings in all modules and scripts 18:04 rangi trea can fix bug 2505 while he is at it 18:04 wizzyrea keke 18:04 bg it's gmcharlt 18:04 bg oh you want the password 18:04 wizzyrea bg: at least it wasn't the password 18:03 * jcamins occasionally writes "/me" in e-mails. 18:01 * collum has a tendency to type in VI commands into irc. It hasn't worked, yet. 17:58 * bg feels silly :P 17:57 bg whoops wrong window :) 17:57 huginn 04Bug 2505: major, P1, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , enable Perl warnings in all modules and scripts 17:57 bg trea http://ticket.bywatersolutions.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2505 17:53 chris_n [off] so would 'apt-get remove windows' result in a stone-throwing session? 17:26 jcamins There are about fifty gazillion mysql modules for puppet. Does anyone know which I should use? 17:23 gmcharlt [off] jcamins: good point 17:23 jcamins [off] gmcharlt: two. Also `apt-get remove windows` 17:18 gmcharlt [off] rhcl shouldn't be too hard, especially since only one specific subcommand is really necessary - 'apt-get install linux' ;) 17:12 rhcl [off]I wish somebody would port apt-get to Windows (at least as long as I have to work with Windows) 17:03 wizzyrea i haven't seen this particular thing before 17:01 wizzyrea when running the 3.4 update? 17:01 wizzyrea Use of uninitialized value in pattern match (m//) at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Biblio.pm line 2841. 17:01 wizzyrea should I be worried about a ton of 16:55 Oak good luck 16:54 wizzyrea :) but it worked 16:53 jcamins Yikes! 16:50 wizzyrea ya think? 16:50 wizzyrea We are upgrading from Koha 3.00.00.107 to 3.05.00.011, you must update your database 16:50 wizzyrea wish me luck 16:50 wizzyrea lulz 16:43 cait have a nice evening 16:43 cait bye paul_p 16:42 paul_p it's time to go back home for me. See you tomorrow #koha ! 16:32 jcamins wizzyrea: you're very welcome. 16:32 wizzyrea jcamins++ thanks for the help 16:25 * oleonard is leaving early 16:25 jcamins oleonard: it's unlikely. Thanks for looking. 16:25 oleonard jcamins: I'll look at it again tomorrow if you haven't gotten inspired before then. 16:18 jcamins oleonard: oh, I guess I'm too distracted to notice that there are obvious patterns for when it works and when it doesn't. 16:18 oleonard jcamins: It fails on the search results page because the function for adding multiple records only knows one error--the duplicate item error. 16:17 oleonard jcamins: It works on the detail page because the function for adding a single record can complete with your error message 16:12 cait hi again #koha 16:12 sekjal lunch then appointment; back in a bit 16:11 clrh_ bybye 16:08 paul_p WAing 6942 (sekjal) 16:04 jcamins you're welcome. 16:04 wizzyrea ty 16:03 wizzyrea aha 16:02 pastebot "jcamins" at 74.73.18.99 pasted "wizzyrea: Puppet config for Koha (note that it requires other modules)" (165 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/75 16:01 wizzyrea yes, plz 16:01 wizzyrea oo 16:00 jcamins Lemme pastebin my Puppet config. 16:00 wizzyrea I was just looking at that 16:00 wizzyrea kool 16:00 jcamins Yup. 16:00 jcamins Though my Puppet configuration is somewhat superior. 16:00 wizzyrea koha on lucid using koha packages? 16:00 jcamins There's a wiki page which is accurate. 16:00 wizzyrea I don't mind manual work 16:00 jcamins Speaking of which, aren't we due for a new LTS release? 16:00 * wizzyrea is 15:59 wizzyrea ah 15:59 jcamins Bit of manual work then. 15:59 jcamins Unless you're on Ubuntu 10.04. 15:59 wizzyrea dependencies are installed and all that jazz 15:59 jcamins The Debian ones work fine. 15:59 jcamins Right. 15:59 wizzyrea the debian ones on ubuntu I mean 15:59 jcamins No problems yet. :) 15:59 jcamins I don't know what launchpad packages are. 15:59 wizzyrea those work ok? 15:59 wizzyrea oh i SEE 15:59 jcamins (I've been using the Debian packages on Ubuntu) 15:58 jcamins wizzyrea: I've been using the packages at debian.koha-community.org, but there are also "launchpad" packages. 15:58 wizzyrea did I hear someone say there were ubuntu packages? 15:56 sekjal 5528 passed (wehoo!) 15:54 jcamins At least that wasn't my fault. ;) 15:54 jcamins Ah. 15:54 oleonard jcamins: Not a breakthrough, but a head-smacking step forward: We were checking valCookie.length instead of arrayRecords.length when looping over arrayRecords! 15:52 oakivil thanks a million again 15:52 oakivil ok got Zebra working 15:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6912 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, ASSIGNED , OPAC display crashes for analytical biblio without 008 field 15:52 jcamins bug 6912 15:51 jcamins oakivil: I have no idea, sorry. 15:51 paul_p (should be quickly done) 15:51 oakivil +1 15:50 paul_p sekjal: & jcamins QAing 6912 15:50 jcamins sekjal++ 15:50 jcamins Woohoo! 15:50 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5528 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, tajoli, ASSIGNED , Analytical records support 15:50 sekjal jcamins & paul_p: QAing bug 5528 15:50 oakivil Is there any documentation about the sms:ing module? 15:49 oakivil I have their interface specs and it is such a simple interface, no brainer. 15:49 oakivil Can you tell me how can I add a new sms service provider? 15:46 oakivil but it is nice that I am finally starting to understand this Koha system 15:46 oakivil for sure I will take the least painfull path 15:46 jcamins Okay, carry on. Use 650, because it'll be less painful. :) 15:45 oakivil yup, importing, indexing 15:45 oakivil actually I already did that according to a national committees established conversion rules using the USEMARCON-program 15:45 jcamins In that case, I still recommend 650. 15:45 jcamins Oh, that's good. 15:45 oakivil we are converting FinMarc to Marc21 15:44 oakivil but the Authority stuff is just made up from a RDF/XML type national vocabulary 15:44 jcamins You'll need to do an entire new framework, with different indexing configurations, etc. 15:44 * jcamins just looked it up. 15:44 oakivil I mean in our library we use FinMarc 15:44 jcamins Ignore everything we said, FINMARC is quite different from MARC21. 15:44 jcamins I have some... not-so-good news, if the data you're using is FINMARC. 15:44 oakivil yes 15:43 jcamins oakivil: You're using FINMARC? 15:43 oakivil ok 15:43 jcamins It won't make any practical difference, other than you won't have to rewrite everything. 15:43 oakivil but i dont know the FinMARC we are using either 15:42 jcamins Yeah, you'll probably be happier using 650. 15:42 oakivil Actually no one in our library knows marc21 that well 15:42 oakivil No idea 15:42 oakivil I am not a Marc-pro thats for sure 15:41 jcamins oakivil: it's not that you can't do things with 653, but if you don't understand MARC (and I'm guessing you don't really understand it), you're probably better off using something that's already configured. 15:41 sekjal oakivil: are you still aiming to create a new Authority Type? 15:41 jcamins oakivil: topical term is a general subject. 15:40 oakivil ok 15:40 kf bye all 15:40 kf now I am leaving :) 15:40 kf in authority the main heading goes into 150 then, in your bibliographic files it will end up in 650 15:40 kf yep 15:40 kf ep 15:40 oakivil for testing sake 15:40 oakivil I can do that tho 15:40 oakivil what is that? 15:40 kf yeah 15:40 oakivil Topical Term? 15:39 jcamins I would definitely still strongly recommend that you consider using 650/150. 15:39 oakivil now i got it 15:39 jcamins I'm not sure that's valid, though. 15:39 oakivil ah ok 15:39 jcamins So, 153. 15:39 oakivil I think I'll take a look in the Zebra config 15:39 jcamins oakivil: no, it *must* be the 1xx field that matches the 6xx field you're using. 15:39 jcamins However, I have no idea whether you'll have to rewrite the Zebra configuration. 15:39 kf I have to leave - will be back later as cait 15:39 oakivil so any 1xx field will do? 15:38 oakivil ok 15:38 jcamins oakivil: it will help the Zebra issue. 15:38 oakivil but it wont fix the zebra issue or will it? 15:38 oakivil ok 15:38 jcamins oleonard: I have no idea what to make of the problem with split, but I guess that's the problem. 15:38 kf 1xx for authority, 6xx for bibliographic 15:38 kf but that's not what it should do 15:38 kf yeah 15:38 oakivil i modified the import script to put 653 to the custom INDEX_TERM Authority type using field 653 15:37 oakivil kf: authority field 100 is imported into the Personal Name Authority type 15:35 kf thx a lot :) 15:35 kf alex_a++ now it works :) 15:34 oakivil kf: bot in the database it made no difference 15:34 oleonard The list I'm using starts at 1 15:34 jcamins I guess you have short-ish biblionumbers? 15:34 kf alex_a: it doesn't like that much 15:34 jcamins oleonard: I ran into problems long before that, too. 15:34 oakivil damn i didnt change those types or formats 15:33 jcamins oleonard: oh, tht's weird. 15:33 oakivil damn no its authority 15:33 kf ah, that's the bibliographic - ignoreme 15:33 oleonard ...but I don't know what it means. 15:33 kf not 6xx 15:33 kf oakivil: hm should be in 100 in your authority 15:33 oleonard jcamins: If I output the contents of the array created by valCookie.split("/") it outputs "undefined" for items above index 1021 15:27 oakivil format is wrong 15:26 oakivil Sorry for the pastebin. 15:26 oakivil </record> 15:26 oakivil </datafield> 15:26 oakivil <subfield code="a">suometsät</subfield> 15:26 oakivil <datafield tag="653" ind1="" ind2=""> 15:26 oakivil <leader> nz a22 o 4500</leader> 15:26 oakivil <record format="FINMARC" type="Bibliographic"> 15:26 oakivil what is a main heading? This is the format of the imported data: 15:26 oakivil kf: zebra indexed with -a. 15:24 jcamins Oh, oops, missed the end of line bit. 15:24 alex_a and s/(\[|\]|,)//g; 15:24 alex_a kf: try s/(;|\s{+})$//g 15:22 jcamins kf: you need to put a vertical bar before the , and then add |; after the comma. 15:21 reiveune bye 15:21 sekjal paul_p: 6278 passed 15:21 alex_a kf: ; at the end of a line ? 15:18 kf I have this now, removes , too s/(\[|\],)//g; 15:18 kf alex_a: I need to remove trailing spaces and ; too... can you give me another hint? 15:14 alex_a kf: :) 15:14 kf hm, although I think it should be, it might be not 15:14 kf perhaps this is not indexed 15:13 kf oakivil: ah, in which field is your main heading in the authorities? 15:13 kf oakivil: have you zebra indexing with -a ? 15:12 kf oakivil: only searching is the problem? 15:12 kf works :) 15:12 kf alex_a++ 15:12 oakivil no errors thrown 15:11 oakivil jcamins: I have no idea whether or not the Zebra indexed properly 15:10 kf great, thx! 15:10 jcamins oakivil: well, if it imported successfully, clearly I was mistaken. 15:09 alex_a $your_string =~ s/(\[|\])//g; 15:08 alex_a kf: s/(\[|\])//g; 15:08 oakivil jcamins: It will be a lot of trouble to convert XML to binary 15:08 jcamins oakivil: oh, interesting. Then I have no idea what's wrong. 15:07 oakivil koha.auth_header -table 15:07 oakivil well the script said 29000 authorities imported just fine, and i can see them in the database 15:06 sekjal thanks, oleonard! 15:06 kf in perl 15:06 kf I want to remove ,[] from a string 15:06 kf can someone help me with regex? 15:06 jcamins oakivil: you can't import MARCXML authorities. Only in binary MARC format, as far as I know. 15:05 oleonard sekjal: $("#furtherm").attr("class","").attr("style",""); 15:05 oakivil Do i need to modify Zebra indexing rules to index field 653? 15:05 oakivil Zebra is running and I can see it trying to look with the keywords I type to Authorities module. Zebra is also indexed after some fuss which required me to delete the locks in koha-dev/var/zebra -folder. 15:05 oakivil Hello #Koha again! I was able to import Marc21XML-Authorities to a custom Authorities type INDEX_TERM on field 653. Trouble is that I cannot find my authorities from the authorities module. 15:00 sekjal oleonard: do you have any tips on how I could get the "more searches" menu on the OPAC to break out of the dropdown and back into a plain, always-visible menu block? 14:54 jcamins Except every so often, you get the right error. 14:54 * oleonard missed that part 14:54 oleonard Oh, okay 14:54 jcamins Once you fill up the cookie, that's the error you get. 14:54 sekjal jcamins and paul_p: will look at all those reports, yes 14:54 jcamins oleonard: yes, that's the problem. 14:54 oleonard No idea if it's related... 14:53 oleonard jcamins: Strange, I'm getting an "already in your cart" error when I know it's not 14:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5528 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, tajoli, ASSIGNED , Analytical records support 14:53 jcamins sekjal: when you get a chance, could you take a look at bug 5528 14:52 * paul_p QAing 6885 (sekjal) 14:52 paul_p sekjal: could you validate 6278 pls (should require just a minute) 14:43 chris_n wizzyrea: yeah, probably a five-star restaurant at that 14:32 jcamins What's particularly baffling is the way that it does work occasionally. 14:29 jcamins Clearly it's buggy, but I haven't the foggiest where. 14:29 jcamins Yeah. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. 14:29 * oleonard would be happy to test 14:29 oleonard Randomly? :) 14:28 jcamins oleonard: would you like me to e-mail you the patch I have that works randomly? 14:28 jcamins Well, that's more time than I should've spent on this. 14:28 alex_a oleonard: ok 14:28 jcamins Nope, no idea. 14:27 jcamins Ohhh. 14:26 oleonard alex_a: Client-side for speed (don't wait for the page to reload) and server-side as a fallback. 14:26 * paul_p QAing 6253 14:26 paul_p sekjal: OK, then I'll announce here what i'm working on & pls do the same to avoid duplicate effort. OK ? 14:25 alex_a oleonard: why both server and client validation ? 14:25 sekjal paul_p: QAing what comes to my attention first, either by email update or by request in channel 14:25 paul_p me = sorted by Sev, and going from worst to lowest. http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/buglist.cgi?regetlastlist=13133 14:24 paul_p sekjal: I see you're QAing. How do you choose what you QA, as i'm QAing too, and that would be bad to QA the same patches. 14:24 jcamins It insists on giving an error that the record was already added. 14:23 jcamins Nope, doesn't work, after all. 14:23 gboisson or is there already one? 14:23 gboisson i'll file a bug for this 14:23 gboisson yes that would be good :) 14:22 oleonard gboisson: We need to add server-and client-side validation for that 14:21 maximep FF hasn't crashed for me in at least 6 months =) 14:21 gboisson oleonard:kf: i have an explanation for the problem i encountered: autorized values cannot contain spaces (or accents, or unusual characters) 14:20 oleonard On my Mac it's, "What did you do to make Firefox crash? Oh, you tried to quit Firefox? Why would you do that?" 14:17 wizzyrea you'd have at least dinner at a fancy restaurant? 14:17 kf hehe 14:16 * chris_n wishes he had a nickel for every time FF told him how embarrassed it was for having crashed :-( 14:15 paul_p (but you'll have to amend it to update the 1st description line with the correct patch number) 14:14 paul_p maximep: the signed-off please 14:13 maximep do I attach the signed off patch or my original? 14:12 paul_p if the QA request just a few changes, a few doc,... usually, it's not needed. Sometimes the QA or RM request a new signoff, but not the most common case 14:11 paul_p hi maximep. Not necessarily. it depends on the nature of the change. In this case no 14:11 kf maximep: I hope not :) 14:10 jcamins Adding records is boring. 14:10 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6879 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, pelletiermaxime, ASSIGNED , Actual price should show correctly on order line and basket summary 14:10 maximep paul_p: replied to bug 6879. If I attach the patch to 6414, will it have to be signed off again ? 14:10 jcamins For me, anyway. 14:06 jcamins Okay, now it works. 14:05 oleonard That has tripped me up before 14:05 jcamins Weakly_typed_languages-- 14:05 jcamins I have to turn an integer into a string. 14:04 jcamins Oh, I bet I know what I have to do. 14:03 jcamins Well, it seemed like something I could easily fix. 14:03 * jcamins gives up. 14:02 jcamins val.length is undefined. 13:58 kf lol 13:57 rhcl uhhh, I'm in the wrong place 13:57 oleonard jcamins: Did you stroke its hair gently and whisper in its ear? 13:54 jcamins It keeps on reporting "No item was added to your cart (already in your cart)!" when it should be using my new message. 13:53 sekjal oleonard: 5898 passed 13:53 jcamins Okay... why is it displaying the wrong message? 13:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5898 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , search to hold feature not clearing 13:47 * oleonard roots for Bug 5898 13:44 oleonard Display of the cart is a tad slow when it has 1000+ titles in it :) 13:43 jcamins Thanks. 13:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7011 normal, P5, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED , Warn the user that they have reached the limit of how many items they can have in their cart 13:42 oleonard Bug 7011 13:40 * oleonard uses Firefox's Web Developer Toolbar for this 13:40 jcamins Good idea. 13:39 oleonard jcamins: Yeah, I've been editing them directly just now using a dump of biblionumbers from my database 13:39 jcamins Gee... it sure takes a while to get your cookie up to the maximum length. 13:38 oleonard sekjal: Only that it's seems obvious to me why a patron would have holds placed on both books: There's a waiting list on both and they don't know which will arrive first! 13:37 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5459 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , merging records loses holds from one 13:37 sekjal does anyone else have an opinion on bug 5459, before I mark it? 13:37 jcamins Exactly. 13:36 oleonard It's the best we can do since it's a browser limitation 13:35 jcamins So, I guess it's not quite fixing it, more preventing it completely breaking your session. 13:35 jcamins "You have tried to add too many items to your cart." 13:35 oleonard Oh yeah, what do you have in mind? 13:35 jcamins If you report the cart length limit bug, I'll fix it. 13:34 oleonard jcamins: We use a jquery plugin for cookie handling in some places. In some (older) places we do it manually 13:34 jcamins Thanks. 13:34 oleonard console.log( foo ); 13:31 jcamins How do I print data to the console? 13:28 jcamins Do we use YUI's cookie handling stuff? 13:23 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7010 enhancement, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW , Select all records from search 13:23 jcamins I admit I didn't really expect anyone else was ever going to want bug 7010. Kind of cool that you could've used it. ;) 13:21 oleonard http://www.nczonline.net/blog/2008/05/17/browser-cookie-restrictions/ 13:20 jcamins That's not 4000 bytes per cookie, that's 4000 bytes per domain. 13:20 jcamins Oh, eep! 13:20 oleonard I was doing it via the cart because adding to the cart is faster 13:19 oleonard I wanted to add all the results of my search to a list :) 13:19 oleonard jcamins: In fact I discovered the bug when I was doing a task which could have used your suggested feature! 13:19 jcamins Probably is. 13:19 jcamins 4000 characters. 13:18 oleonard ...if it really is a cookie size limit. 13:18 oleonard I'll have to test again... it probably depends on the length of the biblionumbers rather than the number of items 13:18 jcamins I'm thinking if it's too many, have the OPAC alert the user. 13:17 jcamins How many items can you have in the cart? 13:17 jcamins Yeah. 13:17 oleonard You'll have to figure out how to limit the option to just the lists then, since the controls are linked 13:17 jcamins Good thing, I guess. 13:16 jcamins :) 13:16 jcamins Okay, I didn't *really* care about the cart anyway. Just lists. 13:16 * oleonard should file a bug for that 13:16 oleonard Makes sense, but if you try to add too many items to a cart things will go wrong. Cookie size limit I think. 13:15 jcamins I mean, the language, not the feature. 13:15 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7010 enhancement, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW , Select all records from search 13:15 jcamins Does bug 7010 make sense to people? 13:04 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6996] Encoding problem in opac-showmarc <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6996> 13:03 huginn kf: Place of publication, distribution, etc. May contain the abbreviation [S.l.] when the place is unknown. (Repeatable) 13:03 kf @marc 260 a 13:03 huginn kf: I suck 13:03 kf @marc260$a 13:03 huginn kf: Information relating to the publication, printing, distribution, issue, release, or production of a work. (Repeatable) [a,b,c,e,f,g,3,6,8] 13:03 kf @marc 260 13:03 kf gboisson: don't be afraid to ask questions :) we will try to help 13:02 kf :) 13:01 gboisson :) 13:01 gboisson i have started working for biblibre just one week ago ! 13:01 gboisson true, i spoke with kf last week but didn't really introduce myself here... 12:59 kf welcome gboisson then :) 12:59 kf it's not that long since it was fixed 12:59 paul_p (has gboisson introduced himself ? It's our new project manager, like Francois Charbonnier & Stéphane Delaye) 12:59 kf that can be the reason I think 12:58 paul_p gboisson: & oleonard & kf : the sandbox gaetan is working on is not uptodate (2 weeks old ?) 12:51 gboisson thanks! 12:51 gboisson ok i'll have a look in this direction then 12:50 oleonard gboisson: The tables are now sorted by class, not ID: $(".sorted").tablesorter 12:49 oleonard gboisson: That suggests to me that the version you're looking at is different from master 12:48 gboisson on line 401 12:47 gboisson $("#DEPtable").tablesorter({wodgets:["zebra"], sortList: [[0, 0]],headers: {1: {sorter: flase}}}).tablesorterPager is not a function 12:46 oleonard What's the JS error? 12:46 gboisson and tabs are non functionnal 12:45 gboisson all the tables show up 12:45 gboisson for instance if i have two ccodes books and cds, instead of having one table for books showing up, and the other accessible through tabs 12:43 gboisson i have the problem in both english and french 12:43 kf gboisson: are you looking at the english templates? 12:42 * oleonard doesn't have any problem with the version in master 12:40 gboisson hmm i saw this one but my problem is different 12:40 oleonard It has been pushed, commit 377f174b0674b009945036c3ac3724378e12e9c5 12:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6842 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Branch transfer limits broken 12:39 oleonard Bug 6842 12:39 kf I had tested oleonard's patch 12:39 gboisson oleonard: where can i check this fix ? 12:39 kf I think it has been pushed, but not sure 12:39 gboisson i see, that could be the reason 12:38 oleonard gboisson: I submitted a fix for something on that page recently, I wonder if you have it 12:38 gboisson and generate a javascript error when clicked 12:38 gboisson tabs are not functionnal 12:37 gboisson yes 12:37 gboisson i would like to know if anyone else has experienced that problem before 12:37 oleonard branch_transfer_limits.pl ? 12:37 gboisson but not in the demos on the koha community portal 12:37 gboisson i've reproduced the bug in a couple instances here 12:36 gboisson i'm having a problem on koha 3.6, with tabs in Administration Set Library Checkin and Transfer Policy 12:36 gboisson hi all 12:11 * kf is katrin 12:11 kf hehe 12:11 * kf crosses fingers 12:11 oakivil you never know... 12:11 oakivil or galls 12:11 kf :) 12:11 oakivil well thanks a lot guys again 12:11 oakivil thats my plan 12:11 kf hope that works without more work 12:11 kf and link it to your auth framework, the $a field I think 12:11 kf you have to go into marc bibiographic frameworks 12:10 kf no 12:10 jcamins oakivil: if you just add the text in the 653, your authorities won't actually be linked. 12:10 oakivil and how to define the linking. ATM the authorities are embedded to the marcdata 12:09 oakivil but now I also know how to import authorities together with the biblios 12:09 kf cataloging from scratch should be ok 12:09 kf the other things we talked about are migration problems mostly 12:09 kf the auth plugin ill take care 12:09 oakivil great 12:09 kf if you do it all by hand it will work too 12:09 oakivil do i still need to define the authorities 001 field? 12:08 oakivil Then I modify existing biblios by adding 653-fields to them. 12:08 oakivil but if i just add these authorities, then modify by hand the Books marc framework to use my custom authority list for field 653$a. 12:07 jcamins kf's plan is good. :) 12:06 kf if that matches the 001 and auth_header pk thing it will link 12:06 kf yep 12:06 oakivil you mean in the biblios 6xx $9? 12:05 kf if you can't provide those fields, there is a script, but as jcamins says there are some problems wtih it 12:05 kf that it needs 12:05 kf because all information is there 12:05 kf without running any scripts 12:05 kf then it will establish the link 12:05 kf oakivil: have ids for your authorities in 001 in authority, and the matching number in 6xx $9 12:04 kf oakivil: one working way is 12:04 oakivil hmm 12:04 jcamins By all means, try running link_authority_records_to_bibs.pl (or whatever the script is), but don't expect it to work terribly well. 12:04 kf but if you give it the right data to begin with, it works 12:03 kf no 12:03 jcamins It's not really possible, sorry. 12:03 kf but he might explode or something 12:03 oakivil I need to dig into the xml parsing module anyway because the xml variant uses different names for authorities frameworks 12:03 kf you should ask jared about linking authorities to bibs... 12:03 kf and the script will not do that 12:03 kf that it will only do if the pk of your auth-header table and $9 in the records match 12:03 oakivil yeah 12:03 kf between your records 12:03 kf you only have to know it willo not establish the links 12:02 kf but basically it should work like you want it to work 12:02 kf i think I would use a 69x 12:02 kf that should work I think 12:02 oakivil what is the most proper field etc. I am just lookign for a quick hack anyway :D demo is on friday 12:02 oakivil and forget about any marc hassle 12:02 kf and you can link them together 12:02 oakivil so what if I just added a clause to the import script to put these field 653's to the custom Authorities framework 12:02 kf totally separate from bibliographic records 12:01 kf the import script puts the authorities into a table in your database 12:01 wahanui kf: I forgot actually 12:01 kf forget actually 12:01 wahanui actually is relevant to perl, that's a definite thing going for it, too. 12:01 kf actually 12:01 kf hm not the matching 12:01 jcamins Hrm. I can't find the code for the plugin. 12:01 oakivil yes the import script does the matching 12:01 kf so happy it works now 12:01 kf nengard: :) I understand you, that's why I made one of my coworkers sit down with me last week 12:00 nengard thanks kf, testing is good, but i do want to get email working so I'll wait for a few more people to wake up over here and ask again :) 12:00 kf the main heading from 1xx in the authority fiel will be copied to 6xx in the bibliographic file 12:00 kf oakivil: different frameworks :) 12:00 jcamins kf: that's a good question! 12:00 kf the question is - does koha copy $2 over using the plugin? 12:00 jcamins oakivil: the last two digits should be the same. 12:00 oakivil but in koha i should have the authorities fields the same as in bibliographics? 12:00 kf to specify the source 12:00 kf yep 11:59 kf jcamins_away: perhaps you are right 11:59 jcamins_away ^^ use 650$2 11:59 huginn jcamins_away: Source of heading or term Code from: MARC Code Lists for Relators, Sources, Description Conventions 11:59 jcamins_away @marc 650 2 11:59 kf oakivil: that's right 11:59 kf you will want to use another field 11:59 oakivil Marc21 fields re different when i look at the authorities documentation than in the bibliographic documentation 11:59 kf if you want to keep them searate 11:59 jcamins_away kf: that's a good thing. 11:59 kf jcamins_away: the problem is, he has authorities for those 11:59 kf or that 11:59 jcamins_away I would use 650. 11:59 kf you can use the 653 - but I would leave that open for real uncontrolled subjects 11:58 kf if you want to link to authorieis 11:58 kf a 69x field would be better perhaps 11:58 oakivil unsorted by anything 11:58 oakivil I have a 29000 word large vocabulary 11:58 kf hm 11:58 oakivil every kind of subjects 11:57 kf what kind of subjects do you want to put in there? 11:57 kf than 653 11:57 kf oakivil: I would use another 6xx field 11:57 oakivil and because I couldnt find a generic enough field from 1xx 11:57 kf nengard: I can't tell you how :( but my coworker fixed it for me - can offer to try testing this tonight 11:57 oakivil well because it seems like the easiest step to display Koha authorities functionality 11:56 kf that means no authority linking intended 11:56 kf 653 is uncontrolled 11:56 kf but why 653 and using authlrities? 11:56 nengard is anyone here able to tell me how to get email working on my VM? I'd like to test owen's patron update email, but my system doesn't send email cause i never set it up 11:56 kf I know 11:56 oakivil like general descriptive words 11:56 kf yep 11:56 oakivil well I want to add Subject words to field 653 11:55 kf the script finds out which framework to use by looking at the main heading in 1xx 11:55 kf line 118ff 11:55 kf http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=misc/migration_tools/bulkauthimport.pl;h=2709db91c9d7e851ea306814aaf646feb14d427d;hb=HEAD 11:55 kf see here: 11:55 kf to make it work 11:55 kf I thought that adding a line to abulkauthimport for the new 1xx field should be enough 11:54 kf when i had looked at custom auth frameworks 11:54 kf the options both scripts provide are different 11:54 kf bulkmarcimport with -a and bulkauthimport 11:54 kf I think there are 2 scripts you can use to import authorities 11:54 kf at the moment 11:54 kf ok 11:53 oakivil ;) 11:53 wahanui kf: I forgot something like that 11:53 kf forget something like that 11:53 wahanui i heard something like that was sticking in nengard's mind 11:53 kf or something like that 11:53 kf I think the table is auth_header 11:53 oakivil where should the authorities go in the database? 11:52 oakivil nope 11:52 oakivil already took a peek at it and thats why I ask. To not use false workflows 11:52 kf have you tried bulkmarcimport with -a switch? 11:52 oakivil I think I can figure it out 11:52 kf hm I wonder 11:52 oakivil ok 11:52 kf thre is a line you will want to add to the import program 11:52 oakivil yes 11:52 kf oakivil: still around? 11:47 oakivil Still unsure where the bulkauthimport.pl will put my authorities with only a leader field and field 653$a defined. 11:46 oakivil I fixed the problem by adding a subfield I forgot to add 11:41 oakivil -error even if I define indicators as ind1="" ind2="" to Marc21XML file, even with indicator values as 1, it gives the very same error. 11:41 oakivil Field 653 must have indicators (use ' ' for empty indicators) at /usr/share/perl5/MARC/File/SAX.pm line 92 11:41 oakivil Hello #Koha. It looks like I need to modify the bulkauthimport.pl to include my custom Authorities type INDEX_TERM, copying auth field 653. I am getting a 11:40 sophie_m kf : the followup fixes a problem that cannot occur with -t parameter 11:23 magnuse see ya later #koha 11:18 kf adrien_s: was Cordon Bleu - but I doubt it was really french cuisine 11:18 hdl Amit_Gupta: ? 11:01 kf back 10:36 adrien_s "Today's fish is trout à la creme !" ... Bon appetit ! 10:35 Amit_Gupta hdl around? 10:35 Amit_Gupta heya kf 10:31 kf I am leaving for lunch - will be back a little later 10:30 kf in that case we could ask paul to qa on the first and the second can go in a little later 10:30 kf does teh problem exist without the follow up too? 10:30 kf I think it's ok, I will test it as soon as I can 10:29 sophie_m Should this followup be part of another bug then ? 10:29 kf I will try it 10:29 kf I misunderstood the documentation 10:29 kf I didn't know it would still use the triggers without -t 10:28 sophie_m Admin>Tools>Overdue notice/status triggers 10:27 kf I will test it 10:27 kf hm I think I understand now 10:23 kf how to specify the 10, 20 and 30 days limits? 10:23 kf can you give me an example to use without -t on the bug? 10:23 kf ok 10:22 sophie_m arghh, this is when -t parameter is not used 10:21 kf are you using the overdues script with -t? 10:20 kf perhaps I am using the overdues differently? 10:20 kf in this case 10:20 kf because I think no notice shoul be generated at all 10:20 sophie_m with the patch, only one letter is generated, listing both documents 10:20 kf I don't understand that I think 10:20 kf hm 10:19 sophie_m without the followup, two level1 letters where générated 1 for the first document and one for the second 10:19 sophie_m if a borrower has 2 books with overdue , one with 11 days and one with 15 for example 10:17 sophie_m you trigger level 1 after 10 days, leverl 2 after 20 and level 3 after 30 10:17 sophie_m kf : the test case if : 09:50 kf it's a great improvement 09:49 kf I would really like to see this go into 3.6 09:49 kf I was not able to find a test case for your follow-up 09:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6292 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , Overdue notices have a bug when multiple overdues exist 09:49 kf paul_p said to ask you about bug 6292 09:49 wahanui kf is, like, cait or really, really sweet. or <reply>she gives me memory loss 09:49 sophie_m kf ? 09:48 wahanui kf: I forgot sophie_m 09:48 kf wahanui: forget sophie_m 09:48 kf forget sophie_m wahanui 09:48 wahanui sophie_m is around, the best would be to ask here... Isn't the comment 13 enough ? (the test plan could be "have different overdues that would trigger different level of notice. Before the patch you get more than one letter, after the patch you just get a letter of the longest odue level, with all odues listed" 09:48 kf sophie_m? 09:25 hdl Amit_Gupta: ? 09:25 kf and triggering the same level with different due_dates is mathematically not possible - not as long as the overdues don't care about holidays 09:24 kf I am not sure which case the follow-up covers that didn't came up by testing 09:24 kf paul_p: I tested it for that- for me it worked without the follow-up 09:24 rangi it says the same level of notice, not a different one 09:23 rangi due_date triggering the same level 09:23 rangi Several letters where generated if a borrower had overdues with different 09:23 rangi hmm but thats not what comment 13 says 09:22 paul_p kf: sophie_m is around, the best would be to ask here... Isn't the comment 13 enough ? (the test plan could be "have different overdues that would trigger different level of notice. Before the patch you get more than one letter, after the patch you just get a letter of the longest odue level, with all odues listed" 09:08 Amit_Gupta hdl around? 09:08 Amit_Gupta hdl there 09:06 kf could you perhaps take a look? 09:06 kf and not sure what it's supposed to fix 09:06 kf I sigend off on 6292 but there is a follow up from sophie I have no test plan for 09:06 paul_p kf: yep 09:06 kf paul_p: have a second? 09:05 huginn kf: The operation succeeded. 09:05 kf @later tell wizzyrea: the layout on the paid for support page for Busara Core Solutions is a bit broken, can you take a look? :) 09:04 * paul_p switches to "QAing bugzilla patches" mode... 08:54 Oak i'll stop now 08:54 Oak :) 08:54 Oak Thank you = Shookriya 08:52 Oak thirsty = pyasaa 08:52 Oak thirst = pyaas 08:51 Oak water = pani 08:51 mtj hi adrien :) 08:50 Oak staff in hotel will understand English I think :) 08:48 adrien_s I guess it's impossible to pronounce correctly for us, so you may die before getting a glass of water 08:48 adrien_s I'm hungry = mujhe bhook lagi hai 08:48 adrien_s I'm thirsty = mujhe pyaas lagi hai 08:48 adrien_s First and last hindi lesson : 08:46 adrien_s we talked a little bit about Germany =) 08:45 paul_p (did adrien_s introduce himself here ? He's the new support guy at BibLibre) 08:45 paul_p adrien_s: you want to give us some lessons ? 08:44 adrien_s will you guys learn a few hindi words ? ;P 08:43 mtj ... and then we get stress-tested too 08:43 mtj looks like their wifi may get a little 'stress-testing'... :p 08:43 paul_p (hi mtj) 08:42 paul_p KohaCon attendies will fill vihang-inn... (only 32 rooms) 08:42 mtj paul_p: we are staying in vihang-inn too 08:41 mtj hiya pholks 08:41 rangi http://www.espncricinfo.com/rankings/content/page/211271.html 08:41 rangi both are hard to beat in cricket 08:40 rangi australia are easier for nz to beat in rugby, than sa are 08:40 rangi in cricket 08:40 rangi no they are actually playing well 08:40 adrien_s India won the last commonwealth games if I remember well, but I didn't notice how England got out of this 08:39 adrien_s England is easy to beat in cricket games ?! they must be sad about it :) 08:37 rangi yep, cos they are easier to beat :) 08:37 paul_p too late, you said "i'm glad australia won". I heard it! ;-) 08:37 rangi in cricket, i will choose sa, and england 08:36 rangi in rugby 08:36 rangi i will choose australia 08:36 rangi or australia and england 08:36 rangi well out of australia and south africa 08:36 rangi hehe 08:36 paul_p I want to register "i'm glad Australia won" !!!! 08:36 paul_p how to register a quote ? 08:35 rangi they only have 14 defenders :) 08:35 rangi quade cooper cant tackle 08:35 rangi easier to beat them than south africa 08:35 rangi im glad they won 08:35 paul_p yep. And you will have to get past your aussies friends 08:35 rangi :) 08:34 rangi gotta get past wales first 08:34 rangi hehe 08:34 paul_p rangi: OK, we let you the black shirt, you let us the cup. Sounds a reasonable deal ? :D 08:33 rangi paul_p: http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/5771983/France-to-cede-final-jersey-rights-to-All-Blacks 08:17 kf hi claire 08:16 clrh hello 07:21 adrien_s guten morgen :D 07:21 kf hi adrien_s :) 07:21 rangi hi adrien_s 07:20 kf hi Amit_Gupta ;) 07:18 hdl hi all 07:18 Amit_Gupta heya kf ;) 07:16 asaurat1 hi 07:15 kf hi hdl 07:15 kf hi #koha 07:10 rangi hi hdl and francharb 07:09 francharb hello all 07:07 Amit_Gupta hi hdl 06:55 cait will be back 06:55 cait grrr 06:55 cait permission_system-- 06:53 cait eythian: I think it did once, there is code like that, only it does not work 06:53 julian_m hello! 06:52 * eythian mosies along 06:51 Oak :) hi 06:51 Amit_Gupta hi Oak 06:50 Oak i hv nt Amit_Gupta 06:49 Amit_Gupta any body try koha with solr 06:49 rangi yeah 06:49 eythian It's silly for every bit of code to have to check 06:48 eythian I think haspermissions should understand superlibrarians. 06:48 eythian Unless bit 1 isn't superlib, in which case the whole & 1 thing is wrong anyway 06:48 eythian I think 06:48 rangi warn it 06:48 eythian but, if superlib is set, it should always be odd. 06:48 rangi yep its easy to test 06:48 * eythian isn't testing this right now, so take it with a grain of salt 06:47 rangi hmm 06:47 eythian noo, shouldn't be 06:47 rangi which i think is caused if you have more than superlibrarian set 06:47 eythian no cape. 06:47 eythian yeah, so not a superlibrarian 06:47 eythian oh right 06:47 rangi 261886 06:47 rangi yeah it was even 06:47 eythian but, I'd start by printing out the flags. 06:46 alex_a hello 06:46 rangi in summary, it tests for odd number 06:46 rangi :) 06:46 eythian that explanation was a little too sbstract perhaps 06:46 eythian which is what & 1 does, it just gives you bit number 1, and if its set it's true 06:45 eythian which means that the superlibrarian bit is set 06:45 eythian you're not testing if it's one, you testing if it's an odd number. 06:44 cait um 1 06:44 cait the sysprefs overwrite it, because it's never 0 06:44 cait it's really only the superlibrarian part that's broken 06:44 cait but the other parts work 06:44 cait eythian: I can do that 06:43 eythian which is helpful :) 06:43 eythian well, if you split it into parts, then you debug each part of it separately. 06:43 cait eythian: and I know it's ugly - but only saying it's ugly is not helpful :) 06:42 cait eythian: thx for looking at it :) 06:39 magnuse bonjour reiveune and cait et al 06:38 cait hi reiveune and magnuse 06:38 reiveune hi Oak, cait, magnuse, everybody 06:37 magnuse kia ora #koha 06:36 cait :P 06:36 eythian cait: feel free to write my kohacon talk ;) 06:36 magnuse Oak 06:36 cait eythian: feel free to improve it 06:36 eythian I'd be inclined to split that if into multiple parts. 06:36 eythian yeah, it's a good place to start 06:35 rangi before the if 06:35 rangi id do a warn $userenv->{'flags'}; 06:35 cait I know 06:35 eythian a 5-line if condition is never going to be debuggable. 06:34 Oak hello reiveune 06:34 eythian that's some terrible code really 06:34 Oak magnuse 06:33 cait http://paste.koha-community.org/74 06:33 eythian cait: perhaps throw 'warn's in where you expect the code to go, and see where it's going and what values it has 06:32 reiveune hello 06:32 cait only the user's 06:32 cait but still not all baskets show up 06:32 cait and the user has superlibrarian rights 06:32 cait I have set the sys pref to 'only baskets created by this user' 06:32 cait but it doesn't :( 06:31 eythian I would expect & 1 to return true if the flag indicates the person is a superlibrarian 06:30 cait and the second patch 06:30 cait running around, getting ready for work 06:30 cait sorry 06:30 cait bookseller.pl... 06:30 cait oh yes 06:27 ropuch Any success? 06:27 eythian cait: there are two patches on that bug, and neither touches basket.pl 06:27 cait yep 06:27 ropuch cait: still strugling with superlibrarian check? 06:27 cait defensively? 06:26 cait patch attached to bug 06:26 cait eythian: basket.pl 06:26 cait the '' are not there, sorry 06:26 cait ah 06:24 eythian so, if (($userenv->{'flags'} & 1) || 06:23 eythian cait: and I'd bracket defensively there 06:23 eythian cait: also, no need for '' around the 1 (although it shouldn't hurt, but it might) 06:23 Amit_Gupta heya ropuch 06:22 ropuch Morning #koha 06:21 Amit_Gupta ?? 06:21 Amit_Gupta hdl around 06:21 eythian what line number/file? 06:20 cait if ($userenv->{'flags'} & '1' || 06:20 cait I changed the superlibrarian line ot 06:20 cait 6390 06:20 eythian what's the bug number? 06:19 cait but it's still not showing me all baskets when I am a superlibraian 06:19 cait got past the perl error 06:19 cait because it's still not working 06:19 cait you still can help 06:19 cait eythian: 06:17 eythian happy to help. 06:14 cait never mind 06:14 cait ok, I see it 06:12 cait $loggedinuser->{'flags'} & 1 06:11 cait it doesn't like the change ian suggests 06:11 cait Can't use string ("1") as a HASH ref while "strict refs" in use at /home/katrin/kohaclone/acqui/booksellers.pl line 118. 06:11 cait hmpf 06:07 laurence hi Amit_Gupta 06:07 Amit_Gupta heya laurence 05:52 Oak :^) 05:52 cait lol 05:52 Oak hm, detective cait and detective eythian working on a case. cool :) 05:51 eythian I hate our internal DNS management tool, I very nearly deleted an entire company domain when I intended to just delete a subdomain. 05:50 cait perhaps 05:50 cait hm 05:50 eythian My assumption is that they copy-pasted content from a PDF, which does that sort of thing. 05:50 eythian it is a lot weird. 05:48 cait that sounds a bit weird 05:48 cait ok? 05:44 eythian but ones you use typesetting, like making 'fi' one character. 05:43 eythian they weren't normal ligatures like � either 05:43 eythian which is super-crazy. 05:43 eythian the data had ligatures in it, defined by control characters. 05:42 eythian yep 05:42 cait sounds pretty normal 05:42 eythian (most of which was dealing with crazy character set issues.) 05:42 cait :) 05:42 eythian sweet, first draft of a soon-to-be-Koha-library migration from Liberty completed in about 3 days. 05:39 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6199] Allow bulkmarcimport to blank duplicate barcodes rather than skipping items <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6199> / [Bug 7008] Sometimes zebra needs a tmp directory that it doesn't create itself <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7008> 05:36 eythian someone had added stuff that modified the record (stripping the item details) when it needed them later when it attempted to readd them. 05:35 cait cool :) 05:35 eythian yeah 05:34 cait but you found the problem? 05:33 eythian it was working for me the whole time, but I think maybe there'd been a change somewhere that upset it, and you were on a newer version (or something like that.) 05:32 cait glad you finally believed me :P 05:32 eythian cait: yep 05:27 cait eythian: 6199? 05:27 rangi hmm 05:17 Oak oh well 05:17 wizzyrea mhm 05:17 cait :) 05:17 wizzyrea resluts. 05:17 wizzyrea nope 05:16 wahanui I LIKE BAO or all about the resluts 05:16 cait wizzyrea? 05:16 cait I think it was not for me 05:16 Oak next time wizzyrea readies the slapping trout, get your helmet! 05:16 Oak now you know 05:16 Oak :) 05:15 cait lol 05:15 Oak cait, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhJQp-q1Y1s 05:14 cait hi Amit_Gupta 05:14 Amit_Gupta heya cait 05:13 cait and hi rangi 05:12 cait stupid glitch 05:12 cait lol 05:12 wizzyrea stupid glitch. 05:12 wizzyrea yes and no - it's by choice 05:12 rangi late night wizzyrea ? 05:12 Oak oh hello rangi 05:12 * wizzyrea waves 05:12 rangi and oak 05:12 rangi hi cait and wizzyrea 05:11 wizzyrea never mind 05:10 cait ? 05:10 * wizzyrea readies the slapping trout 05:10 cait thought so hehe 05:10 eythian nope :D 05:09 cait I can never make you happy, can I? 05:09 cait lol 05:09 eythian cait: you're up late. 05:08 Oak kia ora #koha 05:08 cait hi Oak 05:08 Oak Guten Tag cait 05:08 cait morning #koha 04:32 eythian hello 04:31 Amit_Gupta heya eythian 04:31 Amit_Gupta hmm 04:17 eythian so, a bit over 2 weeks. 04:17 eythian I sent mine on the 26th, they put it in the post today. 04:16 jransom ethian: my visa took weeks to get 04:15 jransom and leave on the 12th 04:15 jransom I get there on the 22nd October 04:15 jransom I got my travel documents today 03:59 eythian Apparently my visa will be arriving tomorrow. 03:58 Amit_Gupta on which date r u coming to india? 03:58 Amit_Gupta heya jransom 03:47 jransom heya Amit 03:27 rangi hi Amit_Gupta 03:27 Amit_Gupta heya chris gm 03:27 Amit_Gupta heya all 01:30 libsysguy1 i keep making that typo when i am writing my OOPerl stuff 01:29 rangi :) 01:29 libsysguy1 i knew it!! 01:29 rangi that stuck 01:29 rangi its a typo of self 01:29 libsysguy1 so who knows if slef is a play on words for $self 01:29 wahanui slef was last seen on #koha 1 days, 6 hours, 55 minutes and 53 seconds ago, saying: biab [Mon Oct 10 18:32:02 2011] 01:29 libsysguy1 seen slef 01:28 libsysguy1 ok thanks rangi++ 01:27 rangi yes 01:25 libsysguy1 so if I have two overdue books there would be two tuples? 01:24 libsysguy1 the breakdown of charges is in that table right? 01:24 libsysguy1 cursed schema page :p 01:24 rangi http://schema.koha-community.org/tables/accountlines.html 01:24 libsysguy1 well it is less about the structure 01:24 jcamins It's evil. 01:23 rangi theres a website for that 01:23 libsysguy1 anybody around that can maybe give me a brief rundown of the accountlines table?