Time Nick Message
23:57 slef I'd just like to mutter "bah, this code says LibLime all over it". I think I've earned that ;)
23:55 slef I didn't find it in http://manual.koha-community.org/3.4/en/
23:54 Judit scary question
23:54 slef I'm probably getting this horribly wrong :)
23:54 slef no worries... I'm surprised no-one else is talking here
23:54 Judit :)
23:54 slef hi caps lock :)
23:54 Judit sorry
23:54 Judit OH
23:54 Judit THANKS FOR LOOKING INTO THIS
23:53 slef can't find it in 3.5... this is strange. I think it would be worth asking the koha@lists.katipo.co.nz how one edits the message_attributes, if it's not in the manual. Would you mind?
23:51 slef I'm a bit puzzled. At least in 3.2.9, it looks like there's no interface to it except using a mysql client... now checking 3.5
23:44 slef I probably should just log into Koha. Maybe that'd be quicker
23:43 slef yeah... I'm trying to look up where you define them now
23:42 Judit so it depends on the messgae attributes not on the sample notices?
23:42 slef aha, got it back
23:41 slef and I've just broke my terminal :)
23:41 slef it looks like you need to define some message_attributes to get the box to appear on the page you were looking at
23:41 Judit sorry
23:41 Judit it was 6am- yesterday when i did it, i dont remember
23:40 slef ah... did you load sample_notices_message_attributes?
23:39 slef ok, so what I actually need to ponder is message_attributes.message_attribute_id = message_transports.message_attribute_id
23:39 slef I've often asked for 36h days but hey, where's my ambition
23:39 slef mmm 61h days... I need some of those
23:38 slef it's not just me, is it? those names are a bit close
23:38 Judit not 61
23:38 Judit 16!!
23:38 Judit maybe it is the 61h day, you know
23:38 Judit :)
23:38 slef bloody stupid naming
23:38 slef that says GetMessagingOptions
23:37 slef I was looking at GetMessagingPreferences
23:37 slef arrrrrrrrrrgh
23:37 slef
23:37 slef PREF: foreach my $option ( @$messaging_options ) {
23:37 slef my $messaging_options = C4::Members::Messaging::GetMessagingOptions();
23:37 slef # walk through the options and update them with these borrower_preferences
23:37 slef there's this bit:
23:36 slef Like I don't mean why it doesn't work in your case... I mean why it ever works.
23:36 slef This could be because a) it doesn't in the version I'm looking at OR b) it's 00:35 and I've just done a 16h day :)
23:35 slef I don't actually understand how this bit works at all.
23:35 Judit so i am not the only one- good!
23:35 slef ok, I'm confused :)
23:35 slef or is it
23:35 Judit :D
23:35 slef ok, that's irrelevant actually
23:34 Judit ehm
23:33 slef it means I've something to think about :)
23:33 slef message_attributes.message_name = ?
23:33 slef borrower_message_transport_preferences.borrower_message_preference_id = borrower_message_preferences.borrower_message_preference_id / message_attributes.message_attribute_id = borrower_message_preferences.message_attribute_id / message_transports.message_attribute_id = message_attributes.message_attribute_id AND message_transports.message_transport_type = borrower_message_transport_preferences.message_transport_type WHERE
23:33 Judit :)
23:33 Judit does that mean good or bad?
23:33 slef oooh yuck :)
23:32 slef C4::Members::Messaging::GetMessagingOptions
23:31 slef C4::Form::MessagingPreferences::set_form_values({ categorycode => $categorycode } , $template);
23:31 slef Judit: ok, I'm looking that up... excuse my mumbling for a moment
23:30 slef magnus_away: thanks for saying my name ;-)
23:30 slef liw: yeah, we've the usual fun with other events that can outbid us. We'll nail it down and be very very noisy as soon as we can.
23:30 Judit koha/admin/categorie.pl?op=add_form&categorycode=L
23:28 slef (I'd avoid linking your admin interface in this chat because it ends up on a public website)
23:28 slef the bit from /cgi-bin/ onwards is fine
23:27 slef do you have the URL for the page where you set the default messaging categories handy?
23:27 slef I don't think the current situation makes sense, but maybe someone knows why it is this way.
23:26 slef yeah, I think you're basically right: either we need a way that you can get all the functions with you unticked that; or you shouldn't be able to untick that.
23:25 Judit yes, i did:)
23:25 slef It looks to me like the checkbox for sample_notices is ticked, but you can untick it if you want
23:25 Judit but i still had no box in the patron category
23:25 Judit and i have created new notices - copied and pasted over the subject, name, code, from an other koha
23:25 slef I'll check but not until the morning.
23:24 Judit i dont remember to be honest
23:24 Judit you know the box was missing al together
23:24 Judit but then could not set the default messaging preferences in patron category
23:23 slef was it labelled something like "you really should install this"?
23:23 Judit i have installed a koha-3.4.5- without the sample messages with no problem
23:22 slef Let me check if it looks possible
23:22 slef I think if you can install koha and not install a database part that's in the mandatory collection, that seems like a bug to me.
23:21 Judit yes, like the item due, and advanced notice, item checkout, item check-in, hold filled
23:20 slef when you wrote "default notices", you meant the sample_notices, right?
23:20 slef sample_notices_message_attributes and sample_notices_message_transports are in optional in 3.5
23:19 slef hrm, sample_notices is in mandatory... sort of the wrong name
23:19 Judit and for my first question, if i am right: is that a bug or a feature?
23:19 slef depends on your point of view
23:19 Judit was it his fault or he just takes the blame?
23:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5898 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , search to hold feature not clearing
23:18 slef but sample_notices really seem to be in optional when they are almost required
23:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6977 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, fcapovilla, ASSIGNED , Support for repeated subfields when importing an authority into a biblio record field.
23:18 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Fix for Bug 5898 - search to hold feature not clearing
23:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5630 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , CAS improvements
23:18 jenkins_koha * frederick.capovilla: Bug 6977 : Adds support for repeatable subfields when importing authorities.
23:18 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Bug 5630, follow-up
23:18 jenkins_koha * ian.walls: Bug 5630 Followup: checkpw_ldap not imported
23:18 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 5630 CAS improvements
23:18 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #473: SUCCESS in 47 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/473/
23:18 slef and I think I read the boat's captain is in court
23:17 slef I'm checking 3.5 / master
23:17 Judit and how bad the situation is with the oil spill?
23:16 Judit and 3.2.9
23:16 Judit 3.4.5
23:16 Judit it this correct?
23:16 Judit even if you create new notices with the same name, subject and code
23:16 Judit if you dont install the default notices during the initial webinstall- you dont have the option to set the Default messaging preferences for the patron categories
23:14 Judit hi
22:31 jenkins_koha Starting build 473 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
22:31 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5528 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, tajoli, ASSIGNED , Analytical records support
22:31 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bumping db version
22:31 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 5528: Analytic records support
22:31 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #472: SUCCESS in 47 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/472/
22:21 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 5898 - search to hold feature not clearing <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7f6656aff84b2e9e47dd3317e8c72d69aaa8e433>
22:11 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6977 : Adds support for repeatable subfields when importing authorities. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f97726406697f7973d2f8118049acaac2f95a3ed>
22:01 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5630, follow-up <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1c0702c76e50173289a0ee340a9c5f190515d9c3> / Bug 5630 Followup: checkpw_ldap not imported <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=74c7c4e3a5d6a3ec20b525936c5ffe2f9b188744> / Bug 5630 CAS improvements <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=046c996c2fa8150b8c6a037976c9c22826e04b8b>
22:00 JoeLib001 'cause I wouldn't call that a feature. :-)
22:00 JoeLib001 Is there a place where I could enter the problem as a bug?
21:58 JoeLib001 Hehe. :-)
21:58 bg it wouldn't be there anymore ;) heh
21:58 JoeLib001 Ah.
21:58 JoeLib001 Anyone know what would happen, if I just delete the Z39.50 Server entry from the z3950 table?
21:58 bg JoeLib001: you can most likely just remove it from the database instead of using the GUI
21:57 JoeLib001 :-)
21:57 NateC at least im not worried about falling into the ocean though
21:57 bg love it
21:57 wahanui I LIKE SPACE AND MY WIFE
21:57 bg NateC?
21:57 huginn JoeLib001: The current temperature in WWater Treatment, Cleburne, Texas is 26.1�C (4:51 PM CDT on October 12, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 32%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 28.97 in 980.9 hPa (Falling).
21:57 JoeLib001 @wunder 76031
21:57 NateC yeah rub it in
21:57 bg eat that NateC
21:56 huginn bg: The current temperature in Third Avenue Park, West Haven, Connecticut is 15.3�C (5:50 PM EDT on October 12, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1018.8 hPa (Falling).
21:56 bg @wunder 06516
21:56 bg I think that's the highest that I've seen
21:56 bg holy shit that's a high!
21:56 huginn bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 34.9�C (2:55 PM PDT on October 12, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 20%. Dew Point: 9.0�C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007.0 hPa (Steady).
21:56 bg @wunder 93109
21:56 JoeLib001 I am unable to delete a Z39.50 Server entry. I think it is because I put a + in the title .
21:50 ibeardslee classy
21:49 rangi heh
21:49 eythian http://imgur.com/r/reddit.com/YZnHu
21:47 rangi not landing in the US
21:47 eythian cait: yeah
21:47 rangi thats it
21:47 cait esta?
21:47 eythian ah cool
21:47 rangi but no direct akl to van
21:47 rangi yeah, its still valid from ALA
21:47 rangi i knew i didnt last time, but who knows
21:47 eythian I doubt you'd need one for there, unless you're going via the US in which case you'll have to use there "I promise I won't take over the plane" system
21:46 rangi i dont
21:46 rangi phew
21:46 rangi bit screwed if thats not the case ;)
21:46 rangi but i just assumed i dont need one for canada
21:45 rangi i probably should check
21:45 cait you are really going :)
21:45 rangi awesome
21:45 cait whoohoo
21:45 * eythian has his passport back with an Indian visa in it.
21:43 jenkins_koha Starting build 472 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
21:43 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5459 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , merging records loses holds from one
21:43 jenkins_koha Chris Cormack: Bug 5459 - Holds not being shifted when merging biblios
21:43 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #471: SUCCESS in 48 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/471/
21:31 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bumping db version <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d205c2795799821bfb560109b841eafac7b239b1> / Bug 5528: Analytic records support <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f09e2ca27ee89860dbdd0ca512735f37fbfaf8a6>
20:54 jenkins_koha Starting build 471 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
20:51 rangi :)
20:50 wizzyrea so excited about that one
20:49 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5459 - Holds not being shifted when merging biblios <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=71defcbc6c851f54da223c040aa5d95e0bd43b73>
20:42 wizzyrea ok right. backups.
20:42 cait hehe
20:42 wizzyrea lol
20:41 rangi https://twitter.com/#!/wowser/status/124133829572169728
20:41 wizzyrea I was hoping
20:41 wizzyrea drat.
20:41 wizzyrea !
20:41 wizzyrea ! is www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1Y73sPHKxw
20:40 trea that's what i hear in my head
20:40 wizzyrea you are welcome
20:40 rangi heh
20:39 wizzyrea www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1Y73sPHKxw
20:39 wizzyrea hehe
20:39 trea bum bum BUMMMMMMMM
20:38 rangi dead i say
20:38 rangi we are all dead
20:38 rangi if you figure out how to do that with js
20:37 gmcharlt and, yes, adding a field doesn't mean that opac-userupate.pl would automatically know what to do it with it
20:37 cait depends what the software does with it
20:37 gmcharlt but it can't, in and of itself, populate that 'sort1' field for you with existing data unless it's already being passwd back in the template
20:37 cait yeah
20:37 maximep the problem is probably saving the field
20:36 gmcharlt trea: yeah, you can use jquery to do enough DOM manipulation to create an input field
20:36 cait hm not sure that will work
20:34 trea can you use jquery to add an input field to a form? ie, adding "sort1" to opac-userupdate.pl
20:22 rangi :)
20:22 rangi c'mon you know you all want to!
20:21 cait there, something nice and shiny to sign off :)
20:21 rangi who wants to sign off on that
20:21 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6390] Basket only visible for librarian who created it <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6390>
20:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6390 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, ef, ASSIGNED , Basket only visible for librarian who created it
20:21 rangi oh bug 6390
20:21 wizzyrea haha
20:21 rangi :)
20:21 huginn gmcharlt: Not yet - wait 10 days
20:21 gmcharlt @arewethereyet
20:21 gmcharlt let's try this again
20:21 rangi i still havent finished my presentation
20:21 wizzyrea oh.
20:20 rangi better not be
20:20 wizzyrea woohoo!
20:20 gmcharlt liar
20:20 huginn gmcharlt: YES!
20:20 gmcharlt @arewethereyet
20:12 jcamins Very good news.
20:12 rangi it will get pushed sometime today
20:12 jcamins rangi++
20:12 jcamins Yippee!
20:12 rangi barring any suprises
20:11 rangi im doing checks on it this morning
20:11 jcamins Woohoo!
20:11 rangi jcamins: 5528 passed qa
20:11 mle tired, but happy. on the train. dealing with the loud people talking ON THE PHONE. ;)
20:11 rangi hows you?
20:11 rangi good thanks, frantically trying to finish a presentation, and deal with a release in 9ish days
20:10 mle how are you?
20:10 mle hey rangi
20:09 rangi hi mle
20:06 mle : )
19:50 chris_n I was rather thinking of an automated one
19:49 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7016] CanBookBeReserved uses GetItemsInfo unnecessarily <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7016>
19:49 chris_n well... that would be one other thing to keep up with
19:49 libsysguy ^^
19:49 slef so add one
19:46 chris_n the topic bar needs a count-down timer to release day
19:46 chris_n 10 days and counting
19:44 libsysguy tis...that way it keeps the url clean
19:44 * jcamins is inclined to say that session is preferable.
19:43 libsysguy i've done it using catalyst but im sure it wouldn't be too much different with the Koha base
19:43 libsysguy either way would be easy
19:43 libsysguy well we could either stash searches in the session or in the url
19:42 libsysguy hehe cait
19:42 cait my automatic translation program does a good job, eh? ;)
19:42 jcamins libsysguy++ # for volunteering to have Koha remember searches.
19:42 libsysguy I thought it would be
19:42 jcamins It'd be easy.
19:42 libsysguy just a random thought
19:42 libsysguy yeah like what cait said
19:41 jcamins You mean, populating the advanced search boxes?
19:41 libsysguy basically pre-populate the advanced search form
19:41 cait I would like that
19:41 cait remembering the last search
19:41 cait hm
19:41 jcamins libsysguy: what do you mean?
19:41 huginn libsysguy: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready
19:41 libsysguy huginn replies to @random?
19:41 wizzyrea http://play.aadl.org/
19:41 huginn libsysguy: I suck
19:41 libsysguy @random....how hard would it be to push the url variables from a current search into the advanced search if a user navigated there?
19:39 rangi oh look i commented on that blog too
19:39 jcamins She was one of the catalogers at my undergrad institution.
19:39 rangi http://coffeecode.net/archives/234-Responding-to-the-Evergreen-research-article-in-Information-Technology-and-Libraries.html
19:39 rhcl whois melissa hofmann
19:39 rangi *nod*
19:38 jcamins Yeah... if you look at the dates of the study, it becomes clear... their data was three years old.
19:38 rangi etc
19:38 rangi evergreen also has rss feeds
19:37 rangi i remember dan scott pointed out a lot of the flaws for evergreen in a blog post
19:37 rangi not true for either Koha or evergreen
19:37 rangi nor is there any indication that the search is ANDed
19:37 rangi there is no option to choose OR or NOT between rows,
19:37 rangi all obvious to the user. In the demo OPACs examined,
19:37 rangi however, the terms are ANDed only, a fact that is not at
19:37 rangi In Koha’s and Evergreen’s advanced search,
19:36 rangi yeah exactly
19:35 jcamins Not a single Koha catalog represented.
19:35 jcamins Oh, ouch.
19:34 rangi f
19:34 rangi if its the voyager compared one im thinking og
19:34 rangi yeah i think its the quite badly done one im afraid :(
19:34 jcamins This does seem a bit familiar.
19:34 rangi at least im pretty sure it is
19:33 jcamins Wait.
19:33 * jcamins hasn't read it yet.
19:33 rangi 2010
19:33 rangi oh thats an old one
19:33 jcamins Yeah, she just got a publication! http://www.ala.org/ala/mgrps/divs/lita/publications/ital/29/3/yang.pdf
19:33 rangi oh?
19:32 jcamins Ooh, I should congratulate Melissa Hofmann.
19:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7015 enhancement, P5, ---, cnighswonger, NEW , Fixup Template Code to Accommodate More Variety of Label Styles
19:29 * chris_n opens bug 7015 to keep track of this idea
19:21 chris_n hmm... using an xml description of the template specs would allow for a lot greater flexibility in accommodating varieties of templates
19:20 rangi thanks
19:19 chris_n wb rangi
19:18 rangi back
19:15 * chris_n encounters a buffer overrun error while attempting to assign time to his schedule for such a modification
19:14 chris_n the template code will need modification to allow variations in the size of columns
19:14 chris_n yup, just as I suspected
19:12 cait chris_n = talking about labels :)
19:12 cait makes sense
19:11 chris_n gaylord labels
19:11 cait ah, there is a vendor called lsl
19:11 chris_n man, can't spell today :P
19:11 cait seems all I do today is making wahanui forget things
19:11 chris_n ops
19:11 chris_n ed?
19:11 wahanui cait: I forgot edi
19:11 cait forget edi
19:11 wahanui edi is something weve been wanting too
19:11 cait edi?
19:11 cait lsl04?
19:10 rangi ok my stop
19:10 * chris_n examines the lsl04 template
19:08 chris_n I think the problem may come with the template code which assumes all columns on a sheet of labels are the same dimension
19:06 chris_n but I "think" that is what was intended back in days of yore when the code was first created
19:05 chris_n I'm not sure alt will work in the present state of things
19:05 chris_n the proof of the pudding is in the crust as they say
19:05 chris_n hmm...
19:04 jcamins chris_n++
19:04 jcamins I stand corrected.
19:03 jcamins Huh.
19:03 sekjal back, as well
18:59 rangi :)
18:58 bg hi back
18:57 * cait waves
18:56 rangi back
18:47 huginn libsysguy: The operation succeeded.
18:47 libsysguy @later tell sekjal I'd like to talk about notices when you get some time
18:46 libsysguy sekjal you around
18:41 libsysguy hey #Koha
18:27 Oak me go now. good night \o
18:22 jcamins proven_backups++ # nothing worse than relying on a backup you've never tested. 99.95% chance it'll be corrupted.
18:21 wizzyrea the worst part of this was finding a dang machine to put it on
18:21 wizzyrea lesson kids: almost anything is surmountable if you have good and proven backups.
18:21 wizzyrea not really
18:20 jcamins Was that option on the table? Yikes! You're scary!
18:20 * wizzyrea is glad I didn't make them recatalog them all
18:19 wizzyrea wow, this library has more items than I thought
18:19 wizzyrea hee
18:16 jcamins Bomb diggle... that sounds like a mole that uses explosives. :)
18:16 rangi bbiab
18:16 rangi ok gotta go make breakfast for the kids
18:11 wizzyrea someone buy eythian and liw lunch or something, packages = the bomb diggle.
18:10 wizzyrea gmcharlt++
18:09 wizzyrea that works a lot better >.>
18:09 wizzyrea oh hey
18:09 bg such a cute face there wizzyrea
18:09 wizzyrea ty >.<
18:09 wizzyrea i forgot that I was moving this from a nozebra to a zebra
18:08 * wizzyrea can fix that
18:08 wizzyrea ok
18:08 wizzyrea hah
18:08 gmcharlt since it means you have NoZebra turned on
18:08 wizzyrea oh dear
18:08 gmcharlt wizzyrea: you should be very, very, very worried
18:08 wizzyrea I did koha-upgrade-to-3.4
18:07 wizzyrea it seems to happen on every bib
18:07 * gmcharlt takes a look
18:07 wizzyrea it's the dev packages
18:06 wizzyrea when running the 3.4 remove items from biblioitems
18:06 wahanui master is probably for 3.6
18:06 gmcharlt wizzyrea: master?
18:06 wizzyrea Use of uninitialized value in pattern match (m//) at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Biblio.pm line 2841.
18:06 wizzyrea should I be worried about this
18:06 wizzyrea speaking of gmcharlt
18:06 wizzyrea it's gmcharlt!
18:06 rangi :)
18:06 gmcharlt it's bg!
18:06 rangi but thats because i use mutt with vim as its editor to write emails
18:05 rangi i do
18:05 bg yeah I'm always using vi commands in email or anything we're I need to type into ( :wq ) !!! heh
18:04 rangi :)
18:04 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2505 major, P1, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , enable Perl warnings in all modules and scripts
18:04 rangi trea can fix bug 2505 while he is at it
18:04 wizzyrea keke
18:04 bg it's gmcharlt
18:04 bg oh you want the password
18:04 wizzyrea bg: at least it wasn't the password
18:03 * jcamins occasionally writes "/me" in e-mails.
18:01 * collum has a tendency to type in VI commands into irc. It hasn't worked, yet.
17:58 * bg feels silly :P
17:57 bg whoops wrong window :)
17:57 huginn 04Bug 2505: major, P1, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , enable Perl warnings in all modules and scripts
17:57 bg trea http://ticket.bywatersolutions.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2505
17:53 chris_n [off] so would 'apt-get remove windows' result in a stone-throwing session?
17:26 jcamins There are about fifty gazillion mysql modules for puppet. Does anyone know which I should use?
17:23 gmcharlt [off] jcamins: good point
17:23 jcamins [off] gmcharlt: two. Also `apt-get remove windows`
17:18 gmcharlt [off] rhcl shouldn't be too hard, especially since only one specific subcommand is really necessary - 'apt-get install linux' ;)
17:12 rhcl [off]I wish somebody would port apt-get to Windows (at least as long as I have to work with Windows)
17:03 wizzyrea i haven't seen this particular thing before
17:01 wizzyrea when running the 3.4 update?
17:01 wizzyrea Use of uninitialized value in pattern match (m//) at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Biblio.pm line 2841.
17:01 wizzyrea should I be worried about a ton of
16:55 Oak good luck
16:54 wizzyrea :) but it worked
16:53 jcamins Yikes!
16:50 wizzyrea ya think?
16:50 wizzyrea We are upgrading from Koha 3.00.00.107 to 3.05.00.011, you must update your database
16:50 wizzyrea wish me luck
16:50 wizzyrea lulz
16:43 cait have a nice evening
16:43 cait bye paul_p
16:42 paul_p it's time to go back home for me. See you tomorrow #koha !
16:32 jcamins wizzyrea: you're very welcome.
16:32 wizzyrea jcamins++ thanks for the help
16:25 * oleonard is leaving early
16:25 jcamins oleonard: it's unlikely. Thanks for looking.
16:25 oleonard jcamins: I'll look at it again tomorrow if you haven't gotten inspired before then.
16:18 jcamins oleonard: oh, I guess I'm too distracted to notice that there are obvious patterns for when it works and when it doesn't.
16:18 oleonard jcamins: It fails on the search results page because the function for adding multiple records only knows one error--the duplicate item error.
16:17 oleonard jcamins: It works on the detail page because the function for adding a single record can complete with your error message
16:12 cait hi again #koha
16:12 sekjal lunch then appointment; back in a bit
16:11 clrh_ bybye
16:08 paul_p WAing 6942 (sekjal)
16:04 jcamins you're welcome.
16:04 wizzyrea ty
16:03 wizzyrea aha
16:02 pastebot "jcamins" at 74.73.18.99 pasted "wizzyrea: Puppet config for Koha (note that it requires other modules)" (165 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/75
16:01 wizzyrea yes, plz
16:01 wizzyrea oo
16:00 jcamins Lemme pastebin my Puppet config.
16:00 wizzyrea I was just looking at that
16:00 wizzyrea kool
16:00 jcamins Yup.
16:00 jcamins Though my Puppet configuration is somewhat superior.
16:00 wizzyrea koha on lucid using koha packages?
16:00 jcamins There's a wiki page which is accurate.
16:00 wizzyrea I don't mind manual work
16:00 jcamins Speaking of which, aren't we due for a new LTS release?
16:00 * wizzyrea is
15:59 wizzyrea ah
15:59 jcamins Bit of manual work then.
15:59 jcamins Unless you're on Ubuntu 10.04.
15:59 wizzyrea dependencies are installed and all that jazz
15:59 jcamins The Debian ones work fine.
15:59 jcamins Right.
15:59 wizzyrea the debian ones on ubuntu I mean
15:59 jcamins No problems yet. :)
15:59 jcamins I don't know what launchpad packages are.
15:59 wizzyrea those work ok?
15:59 wizzyrea oh i SEE
15:59 jcamins (I've been using the Debian packages on Ubuntu)
15:58 jcamins wizzyrea: I've been using the packages at debian.koha-community.org, but there are also "launchpad" packages.
15:58 wizzyrea did I hear someone say there were ubuntu packages?
15:56 sekjal 5528 passed (wehoo!)
15:54 jcamins At least that wasn't my fault. ;)
15:54 jcamins Ah.
15:54 oleonard jcamins: Not a breakthrough, but a head-smacking step forward: We were checking valCookie.length instead of arrayRecords.length when looping over arrayRecords!
15:52 oakivil thanks a million again
15:52 oakivil ok got Zebra working
15:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6912 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, ASSIGNED , OPAC display crashes for analytical biblio without 008 field
15:52 jcamins bug 6912
15:51 jcamins oakivil: I have no idea, sorry.
15:51 paul_p (should be quickly done)
15:51 oakivil +1
15:50 paul_p sekjal: & jcamins QAing 6912
15:50 jcamins sekjal++
15:50 jcamins Woohoo!
15:50 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5528 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, tajoli, ASSIGNED , Analytical records support
15:50 sekjal jcamins & paul_p: QAing bug 5528
15:50 oakivil Is there any documentation about the sms:ing module?
15:49 oakivil I have their interface specs and it is such a simple interface, no brainer.
15:49 oakivil Can you tell me how can I add a new sms service provider?
15:46 oakivil but it is nice that I am finally starting to understand this Koha system
15:46 oakivil for sure I will take the least painfull path
15:46 jcamins Okay, carry on. Use 650, because it'll be less painful. :)
15:45 oakivil yup, importing, indexing
15:45 oakivil actually I already did that according to a national committees established conversion rules using the USEMARCON-program
15:45 jcamins In that case, I still recommend 650.
15:45 jcamins Oh, that's good.
15:45 oakivil we are converting FinMarc to Marc21
15:44 oakivil but the Authority stuff is just made up from a RDF/XML type national vocabulary
15:44 jcamins You'll need to do an entire new framework, with different indexing configurations, etc.
15:44 * jcamins just looked it up.
15:44 oakivil I mean in our library we use FinMarc
15:44 jcamins Ignore everything we said, FINMARC is quite different from MARC21.
15:44 jcamins I have some... not-so-good news, if the data you're using is FINMARC.
15:44 oakivil yes
15:43 jcamins oakivil: You're using FINMARC?
15:43 oakivil ok
15:43 jcamins It won't make any practical difference, other than you won't have to rewrite everything.
15:43 oakivil but i dont know the FinMARC we are using either
15:42 jcamins Yeah, you'll probably be happier using 650.
15:42 oakivil Actually no one in our library knows marc21 that well
15:42 oakivil No idea
15:42 oakivil I am not a Marc-pro thats for sure
15:41 jcamins oakivil: it's not that you can't do things with 653, but if you don't understand MARC (and I'm guessing you don't really understand it), you're probably better off using something that's already configured.
15:41 sekjal oakivil: are you still aiming to create a new Authority Type?
15:41 jcamins oakivil: topical term is a general subject.
15:40 oakivil ok
15:40 kf bye all
15:40 kf now I am leaving :)
15:40 kf in authority the main heading goes into 150 then, in your bibliographic files it will end up in 650
15:40 kf yep
15:40 kf ep
15:40 oakivil for testing sake
15:40 oakivil I can do that tho
15:40 oakivil what is that?
15:40 kf yeah
15:40 oakivil Topical Term?
15:39 jcamins I would definitely still strongly recommend that you consider using 650/150.
15:39 oakivil now i got it
15:39 jcamins I'm not sure that's valid, though.
15:39 oakivil ah ok
15:39 jcamins So, 153.
15:39 oakivil I think I'll take a look in the Zebra config
15:39 jcamins oakivil: no, it *must* be the 1xx field that matches the 6xx field you're using.
15:39 jcamins However, I have no idea whether you'll have to rewrite the Zebra configuration.
15:39 kf I have to leave - will be back later as cait
15:39 oakivil so any 1xx field will do?
15:38 oakivil ok
15:38 jcamins oakivil: it will help the Zebra issue.
15:38 oakivil but it wont fix the zebra issue or will it?
15:38 oakivil ok
15:38 jcamins oleonard: I have no idea what to make of the problem with split, but I guess that's the problem.
15:38 kf 1xx for authority, 6xx for bibliographic
15:38 kf but that's not what it should do
15:38 kf yeah
15:38 oakivil i modified the import script to put 653 to the custom INDEX_TERM Authority type using field 653
15:37 oakivil kf: authority field 100 is imported into the Personal Name Authority type
15:35 kf thx a lot :)
15:35 kf alex_a++ now it works :)
15:34 oakivil kf: bot in the database it made no difference
15:34 oleonard The list I'm using starts at 1
15:34 jcamins I guess you have short-ish biblionumbers?
15:34 kf alex_a: it doesn't like that much
15:34 jcamins oleonard: I ran into problems long before that, too.
15:34 oakivil damn i didnt change those types or formats
15:33 jcamins oleonard: oh, tht's weird.
15:33 oakivil damn no its authority
15:33 kf ah, that's the bibliographic - ignoreme
15:33 oleonard ...but I don't know what it means.
15:33 kf not 6xx
15:33 kf oakivil: hm should be in 100 in your authority
15:33 oleonard jcamins: If I output the contents of the array created by valCookie.split("/") it outputs "undefined" for items above index 1021
15:27 oakivil format is wrong
15:26 oakivil Sorry for the pastebin.
15:26 oakivil </record>
15:26 oakivil </datafield>
15:26 oakivil <subfield code="a">suometsät</subfield>
15:26 oakivil <datafield tag="653" ind1="" ind2="">
15:26 oakivil <leader> nz a22 o 4500</leader>
15:26 oakivil <record format="FINMARC" type="Bibliographic">
15:26 oakivil what is a main heading? This is the format of the imported data:
15:26 oakivil kf: zebra indexed with -a.
15:24 jcamins Oh, oops, missed the end of line bit.
15:24 alex_a and s/(\[|\]|,)//g;
15:24 alex_a kf: try s/(;|\s{+})$//g
15:22 jcamins kf: you need to put a vertical bar before the , and then add |; after the comma.
15:21 reiveune bye
15:21 sekjal paul_p: 6278 passed
15:21 alex_a kf: ; at the end of a line ?
15:18 kf I have this now, removes , too s/(\[|\],)//g;
15:18 kf alex_a: I need to remove trailing spaces and ; too... can you give me another hint?
15:14 alex_a kf: :)
15:14 kf hm, although I think it should be, it might be not
15:14 kf perhaps this is not indexed
15:13 kf oakivil: ah, in which field is your main heading in the authorities?
15:13 kf oakivil: have you zebra indexing with -a ?
15:12 kf oakivil: only searching is the problem?
15:12 kf works :)
15:12 kf alex_a++
15:12 oakivil no errors thrown
15:11 oakivil jcamins: I have no idea whether or not the Zebra indexed properly
15:10 kf great, thx!
15:10 jcamins oakivil: well, if it imported successfully, clearly I was mistaken.
15:09 alex_a $your_string =~ s/(\[|\])//g;
15:08 alex_a kf: s/(\[|\])//g;
15:08 oakivil jcamins: It will be a lot of trouble to convert XML to binary
15:08 jcamins oakivil: oh, interesting. Then I have no idea what's wrong.
15:07 oakivil koha.auth_header -table
15:07 oakivil well the script said 29000 authorities imported just fine, and i can see them in the database
15:06 sekjal thanks, oleonard!
15:06 kf in perl
15:06 kf I want to remove ,[] from a string
15:06 kf can someone help me with regex?
15:06 jcamins oakivil: you can't import MARCXML authorities. Only in binary MARC format, as far as I know.
15:05 oleonard sekjal: $("#furtherm").attr("class","").attr("style","");
15:05 oakivil Do i need to modify Zebra indexing rules to index field 653?
15:05 oakivil Zebra is running and I can see it trying to look with the keywords I type to Authorities module. Zebra is also indexed after some fuss which required me to delete the locks in koha-dev/var/zebra -folder.
15:05 oakivil Hello #Koha again! I was able to import Marc21XML-Authorities to a custom Authorities type INDEX_TERM on field 653. Trouble is that I cannot find my authorities from the authorities module.
15:00 sekjal oleonard: do you have any tips on how I could get the "more searches" menu on the OPAC to break out of the dropdown and back into a plain, always-visible menu block?
14:54 jcamins Except every so often, you get the right error.
14:54 * oleonard missed that part
14:54 oleonard Oh, okay
14:54 jcamins Once you fill up the cookie, that's the error you get.
14:54 sekjal jcamins and paul_p: will look at all those reports, yes
14:54 jcamins oleonard: yes, that's the problem.
14:54 oleonard No idea if it's related...
14:53 oleonard jcamins: Strange, I'm getting an "already in your cart" error when I know it's not
14:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5528 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, tajoli, ASSIGNED , Analytical records support
14:53 jcamins sekjal: when you get a chance, could you take a look at bug 5528
14:52 * paul_p QAing 6885 (sekjal)
14:52 paul_p sekjal: could you validate 6278 pls (should require just a minute)
14:43 chris_n wizzyrea: yeah, probably a five-star restaurant at that
14:32 jcamins What's particularly baffling is the way that it does work occasionally.
14:29 jcamins Clearly it's buggy, but I haven't the foggiest where.
14:29 jcamins Yeah. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.
14:29 * oleonard would be happy to test
14:29 oleonard Randomly? :)
14:28 jcamins oleonard: would you like me to e-mail you the patch I have that works randomly?
14:28 jcamins Well, that's more time than I should've spent on this.
14:28 alex_a oleonard: ok
14:28 jcamins Nope, no idea.
14:27 jcamins Ohhh.
14:26 oleonard alex_a: Client-side for speed (don't wait for the page to reload) and server-side as a fallback.
14:26 * paul_p QAing 6253
14:26 paul_p sekjal: OK, then I'll announce here what i'm working on & pls do the same to avoid duplicate effort. OK ?
14:25 alex_a oleonard: why both server and client validation ?
14:25 sekjal paul_p: QAing what comes to my attention first, either by email update or by request in channel
14:25 paul_p me = sorted by Sev, and going from worst to lowest. http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/buglist.cgi?regetlastlist=13133
14:24 paul_p sekjal: I see you're QAing. How do you choose what you QA, as i'm QAing too, and that would be bad to QA the same patches.
14:24 jcamins It insists on giving an error that the record was already added.
14:23 jcamins Nope, doesn't work, after all.
14:23 gboisson or is there already one?
14:23 gboisson i'll file a bug for this
14:23 gboisson yes that would be good :)
14:22 oleonard gboisson: We need to add server-and client-side validation for that
14:21 maximep FF hasn't crashed for me in at least 6 months =)
14:21 gboisson oleonard:kf: i have an explanation for the problem i encountered: autorized values cannot contain spaces (or accents, or unusual characters)
14:20 oleonard On my Mac it's, "What did you do to make Firefox crash? Oh, you tried to quit Firefox? Why would you do that?"
14:17 wizzyrea you'd have at least dinner at a fancy restaurant?
14:17 kf hehe
14:16 * chris_n wishes he had a nickel for every time FF told him how embarrassed it was for having crashed :-(
14:15 paul_p (but you'll have to amend it to update the 1st description line with the correct patch number)
14:14 paul_p maximep: the signed-off please
14:13 maximep do I attach the signed off patch or my original?
14:12 paul_p if the QA request just a few changes, a few doc,... usually, it's not needed. Sometimes the QA or RM request a new signoff, but not the most common case
14:11 paul_p hi maximep. Not necessarily. it depends on the nature of the change. In this case no
14:11 kf maximep: I hope not :)
14:10 jcamins Adding records is boring.
14:10 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6879 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, pelletiermaxime, ASSIGNED , Actual price should show correctly on order line and basket summary
14:10 maximep paul_p: replied to bug 6879. If I attach the patch to 6414, will it have to be signed off again ?
14:10 jcamins For me, anyway.
14:06 jcamins Okay, now it works.
14:05 oleonard That has tripped me up before
14:05 jcamins Weakly_typed_languages--
14:05 jcamins I have to turn an integer into a string.
14:04 jcamins Oh, I bet I know what I have to do.
14:03 jcamins Well, it seemed like something I could easily fix.
14:03 * jcamins gives up.
14:02 jcamins val.length is undefined.
13:58 kf lol
13:57 rhcl uhhh, I'm in the wrong place
13:57 oleonard jcamins: Did you stroke its hair gently and whisper in its ear?
13:54 jcamins It keeps on reporting "No item was added to your cart (already in your cart)!" when it should be using my new message.
13:53 sekjal oleonard: 5898 passed
13:53 jcamins Okay... why is it displaying the wrong message?
13:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5898 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , search to hold feature not clearing
13:47 * oleonard roots for Bug 5898
13:44 oleonard Display of the cart is a tad slow when it has 1000+ titles in it :)
13:43 jcamins Thanks.
13:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7011 normal, P5, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED , Warn the user that they have reached the limit of how many items they can have in their cart
13:42 oleonard Bug 7011
13:40 * oleonard uses Firefox's Web Developer Toolbar for this
13:40 jcamins Good idea.
13:39 oleonard jcamins: Yeah, I've been editing them directly just now using a dump of biblionumbers from my database
13:39 jcamins Gee... it sure takes a while to get your cookie up to the maximum length.
13:38 oleonard sekjal: Only that it's seems obvious to me why a patron would have holds placed on both books: There's a waiting list on both and they don't know which will arrive first!
13:37 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5459 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , merging records loses holds from one
13:37 sekjal does anyone else have an opinion on bug 5459, before I mark it?
13:37 jcamins Exactly.
13:36 oleonard It's the best we can do since it's a browser limitation
13:35 jcamins So, I guess it's not quite fixing it, more preventing it completely breaking your session.
13:35 jcamins "You have tried to add too many items to your cart."
13:35 oleonard Oh yeah, what do you have in mind?
13:35 jcamins If you report the cart length limit bug, I'll fix it.
13:34 oleonard jcamins: We use a jquery plugin for cookie handling in some places. In some (older) places we do it manually
13:34 jcamins Thanks.
13:34 oleonard console.log( foo );
13:31 jcamins How do I print data to the console?
13:28 jcamins Do we use YUI's cookie handling stuff?
13:23 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7010 enhancement, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW , Select all records from search
13:23 jcamins I admit I didn't really expect anyone else was ever going to want bug 7010. Kind of cool that you could've used it. ;)
13:21 oleonard http://www.nczonline.net/blog/2008/05/17/browser-cookie-restrictions/
13:20 jcamins That's not 4000 bytes per cookie, that's 4000 bytes per domain.
13:20 jcamins Oh, eep!
13:20 oleonard I was doing it via the cart because adding to the cart is faster
13:19 oleonard I wanted to add all the results of my search to a list :)
13:19 oleonard jcamins: In fact I discovered the bug when I was doing a task which could have used your suggested feature!
13:19 jcamins Probably is.
13:19 jcamins 4000 characters.
13:18 oleonard ...if it really is a cookie size limit.
13:18 oleonard I'll have to test again... it probably depends on the length of the biblionumbers rather than the number of items
13:18 jcamins I'm thinking if it's too many, have the OPAC alert the user.
13:17 jcamins How many items can you have in the cart?
13:17 jcamins Yeah.
13:17 oleonard You'll have to figure out how to limit the option to just the lists then, since the controls are linked
13:17 jcamins Good thing, I guess.
13:16 jcamins :)
13:16 jcamins Okay, I didn't *really* care about the cart anyway. Just lists.
13:16 * oleonard should file a bug for that
13:16 oleonard Makes sense, but if you try to add too many items to a cart things will go wrong. Cookie size limit I think.
13:15 jcamins I mean, the language, not the feature.
13:15 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7010 enhancement, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW , Select all records from search
13:15 jcamins Does bug 7010 make sense to people?
13:04 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6996] Encoding problem in opac-showmarc <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6996>
13:03 huginn kf: Place of publication, distribution, etc. May contain the abbreviation [S.l.] when the place is unknown. (Repeatable)
13:03 kf @marc 260 a
13:03 huginn kf: I suck
13:03 kf @marc260$a
13:03 huginn kf: Information relating to the publication, printing, distribution, issue, release, or production of a work. (Repeatable) [a,b,c,e,f,g,3,6,8]
13:03 kf @marc 260
13:03 kf gboisson: don't be afraid to ask questions :) we will try to help
13:02 kf :)
13:01 gboisson :)
13:01 gboisson i have started working for biblibre just one week ago !
13:01 gboisson true, i spoke with kf last week but didn't really introduce myself here...
12:59 kf welcome gboisson then :)
12:59 kf it's not that long since it was fixed
12:59 paul_p (has gboisson introduced himself ? It's our new project manager, like Francois Charbonnier & Stéphane Delaye)
12:59 kf that can be the reason I think
12:58 paul_p gboisson: & oleonard & kf : the sandbox gaetan is working on is not uptodate (2 weeks old ?)
12:51 gboisson thanks!
12:51 gboisson ok i'll have a look in this direction then
12:50 oleonard gboisson: The tables are now sorted by class, not ID: $(".sorted").tablesorter
12:49 oleonard gboisson: That suggests to me that the version you're looking at is different from master
12:48 gboisson on line 401
12:47 gboisson $("#DEPtable").tablesorter({wodgets:["zebra"], sortList: [[0, 0]],headers: {1: {sorter: flase}}}).tablesorterPager is not a function
12:46 oleonard What's the JS error?
12:46 gboisson and tabs are non functionnal
12:45 gboisson all the tables show up
12:45 gboisson for instance if i have two ccodes books and cds, instead of having one table for books showing up, and the other accessible through tabs
12:43 gboisson i have the problem in both english and french
12:43 kf gboisson: are you looking at the english templates?
12:42 * oleonard doesn't have any problem with the version in master
12:40 gboisson hmm i saw this one but my problem is different
12:40 oleonard It has been pushed, commit 377f174b0674b009945036c3ac3724378e12e9c5
12:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6842 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Branch transfer limits broken
12:39 oleonard Bug 6842
12:39 kf I had tested oleonard's patch
12:39 gboisson oleonard: where can i check this fix ?
12:39 kf I think it has been pushed, but not sure
12:39 gboisson i see, that could be the reason
12:38 oleonard gboisson: I submitted a fix for something on that page recently, I wonder if you have it
12:38 gboisson and generate a javascript error when clicked
12:38 gboisson tabs are not functionnal
12:37 gboisson yes
12:37 gboisson i would like to know if anyone else has experienced that problem before
12:37 oleonard branch_transfer_limits.pl ?
12:37 gboisson but not in the demos on the koha community portal
12:37 gboisson i've reproduced the bug in a couple instances here
12:36 gboisson i'm having a problem on koha 3.6, with tabs in Administration Set Library Checkin and Transfer Policy
12:36 gboisson hi all
12:11 * kf is katrin
12:11 kf hehe
12:11 * kf crosses fingers
12:11 oakivil you never know...
12:11 oakivil or galls
12:11 kf :)
12:11 oakivil well thanks a lot guys again
12:11 oakivil thats my plan
12:11 kf hope that works without more work
12:11 kf and link it to your auth framework, the $a field I think
12:11 kf you have to go into marc bibiographic frameworks
12:10 kf no
12:10 jcamins oakivil: if you just add the text in the 653, your authorities won't actually be linked.
12:10 oakivil and how to define the linking. ATM the authorities are embedded to the marcdata
12:09 oakivil but now I also know how to import authorities together with the biblios
12:09 kf cataloging from scratch should be ok
12:09 kf the other things we talked about are migration problems mostly
12:09 kf the auth plugin ill take care
12:09 oakivil great
12:09 kf if you do it all by hand it will work too
12:09 oakivil do i still need to define the authorities 001 field?
12:08 oakivil Then I modify existing biblios by adding 653-fields to them.
12:08 oakivil but if i just add these authorities, then modify by hand the Books marc framework to use my custom authority list for field 653$a.
12:07 jcamins kf's plan is good. :)
12:06 kf if that matches the 001 and auth_header pk thing it will link
12:06 kf yep
12:06 oakivil you mean in the biblios 6xx $9?
12:05 kf if you can't provide those fields, there is a script, but as jcamins says there are some problems wtih it
12:05 kf that it needs
12:05 kf because all information is there
12:05 kf without running any scripts
12:05 kf then it will establish the link
12:05 kf oakivil: have ids for your authorities in 001 in authority, and the matching number in 6xx $9
12:04 kf oakivil: one working way is
12:04 oakivil hmm
12:04 jcamins By all means, try running link_authority_records_to_bibs.pl (or whatever the script is), but don't expect it to work terribly well.
12:04 kf but if you give it the right data to begin with, it works
12:03 kf no
12:03 jcamins It's not really possible, sorry.
12:03 kf but he might explode or something
12:03 oakivil I need to dig into the xml parsing module anyway because the xml variant uses different names for authorities frameworks
12:03 kf you should ask jared about linking authorities to bibs...
12:03 kf and the script will not do that
12:03 kf that it will only do if the pk of your auth-header table and $9 in the records match
12:03 oakivil yeah
12:03 kf between your records
12:03 kf you only have to know it willo not establish the links
12:02 kf but basically it should work like you want it to work
12:02 kf i think I would use a 69x
12:02 kf that should work I think
12:02 oakivil what is the most proper field etc. I am just lookign for a quick hack anyway :D demo is on friday
12:02 oakivil and forget about any marc hassle
12:02 kf and you can link them together
12:02 oakivil so what if I just added a clause to the import script to put these field 653's to the custom Authorities framework
12:02 kf totally separate from bibliographic records
12:01 kf the import script puts the authorities into a table in your database
12:01 wahanui kf: I forgot actually
12:01 kf forget actually
12:01 wahanui actually is relevant to perl, that's a definite thing going for it, too.
12:01 kf actually
12:01 kf hm not the matching
12:01 jcamins Hrm. I can't find the code for the plugin.
12:01 oakivil yes the import script does the matching
12:01 kf so happy it works now
12:01 kf nengard: :) I understand you, that's why I made one of my coworkers sit down with me last week
12:00 nengard thanks kf, testing is good, but i do want to get email working so I'll wait for a few more people to wake up over here and ask again :)
12:00 kf the main heading from 1xx in the authority fiel will be copied to 6xx in the bibliographic file
12:00 kf oakivil: different frameworks :)
12:00 jcamins kf: that's a good question!
12:00 kf the question is - does koha copy $2 over using the plugin?
12:00 jcamins oakivil: the last two digits should be the same.
12:00 oakivil but in koha i should have the authorities fields the same as in bibliographics?
12:00 kf to specify the source
12:00 kf yep
11:59 kf jcamins_away: perhaps you are right
11:59 jcamins_away ^^ use 650$2
11:59 huginn jcamins_away: Source of heading or term Code from: MARC Code Lists for Relators, Sources, Description Conventions
11:59 jcamins_away @marc 650 2
11:59 kf oakivil: that's right
11:59 kf you will want to use another field
11:59 oakivil Marc21 fields re different when i look at the authorities documentation than in the bibliographic documentation
11:59 kf if you want to keep them searate
11:59 jcamins_away kf: that's a good thing.
11:59 kf jcamins_away: the problem is, he has authorities for those
11:59 kf or that
11:59 jcamins_away I would use 650.
11:59 kf you can use the 653 - but I would leave that open for real uncontrolled subjects
11:58 kf if you want to link to authorieis
11:58 kf a 69x field would be better perhaps
11:58 oakivil unsorted by anything
11:58 oakivil I have a 29000 word large vocabulary
11:58 kf hm
11:58 oakivil every kind of subjects
11:57 kf what kind of subjects do you want to put in there?
11:57 kf than 653
11:57 kf oakivil: I would use another 6xx field
11:57 oakivil and because I couldnt find a generic enough field from 1xx
11:57 kf nengard: I can't tell you how :( but my coworker fixed it for me - can offer to try testing this tonight
11:57 oakivil well because it seems like the easiest step to display Koha authorities functionality
11:56 kf that means no authority linking intended
11:56 kf 653 is uncontrolled
11:56 kf but why 653 and using authlrities?
11:56 nengard is anyone here able to tell me how to get email working on my VM? I'd like to test owen's patron update email, but my system doesn't send email cause i never set it up
11:56 kf I know
11:56 oakivil like general descriptive words
11:56 kf yep
11:56 oakivil well I want to add Subject words to field 653
11:55 kf the script finds out which framework to use by looking at the main heading in 1xx
11:55 kf line 118ff
11:55 kf http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=misc/migration_tools/bulkauthimport.pl;h=2709db91c9d7e851ea306814aaf646feb14d427d;hb=HEAD
11:55 kf see here:
11:55 kf to make it work
11:55 kf I thought that adding a line to abulkauthimport for the new 1xx field should be enough
11:54 kf when i had looked at custom auth frameworks
11:54 kf the options both scripts provide are different
11:54 kf bulkmarcimport with -a and bulkauthimport
11:54 kf I think there are 2 scripts you can use to import authorities
11:54 kf at the moment
11:54 kf ok
11:53 oakivil ;)
11:53 wahanui kf: I forgot something like that
11:53 kf forget something like that
11:53 wahanui i heard something like that was sticking in nengard's mind
11:53 kf or something like that
11:53 kf I think the table is auth_header
11:53 oakivil where should the authorities go in the database?
11:52 oakivil nope
11:52 oakivil already took a peek at it and thats why I ask. To not use false workflows
11:52 kf have you tried bulkmarcimport with -a switch?
11:52 oakivil I think I can figure it out
11:52 kf hm I wonder
11:52 oakivil ok
11:52 kf thre is a line you will want to add to the import program
11:52 oakivil yes
11:52 kf oakivil: still around?
11:47 oakivil Still unsure where the bulkauthimport.pl will put my authorities with only a leader field and field 653$a defined.
11:46 oakivil I fixed the problem by adding a subfield I forgot to add
11:41 oakivil -error even if I define indicators as ind1="" ind2="" to Marc21XML file, even with indicator values as 1, it gives the very same error.
11:41 oakivil Field 653 must have indicators (use ' ' for empty indicators) at /usr/share/perl5/MARC/File/SAX.pm line 92
11:41 oakivil Hello #Koha. It looks like I need to modify the bulkauthimport.pl to include my custom Authorities type INDEX_TERM, copying auth field 653. I am getting a
11:40 sophie_m kf : the followup fixes a problem that cannot occur with -t parameter
11:23 magnuse see ya later #koha
11:18 kf adrien_s: was Cordon Bleu - but I doubt it was really french cuisine
11:18 hdl Amit_Gupta: ?
11:01 kf back
10:36 adrien_s "Today's fish is trout à la creme !" ... Bon appetit !
10:35 Amit_Gupta hdl around?
10:35 Amit_Gupta heya kf
10:31 kf I am leaving for lunch - will be back a little later
10:30 kf in that case we could ask paul to qa on the first and the second can go in a little later
10:30 kf does teh problem exist without the follow up too?
10:30 kf I think it's ok, I will test it as soon as I can
10:29 sophie_m Should this followup be part of another bug then ?
10:29 kf I will try it
10:29 kf I misunderstood the documentation
10:29 kf I didn't know it would still use the triggers without -t
10:28 sophie_m Admin>Tools>Overdue notice/status triggers
10:27 kf I will test it
10:27 kf hm I think I understand now
10:23 kf how to specify the 10, 20 and 30 days limits?
10:23 kf can you give me an example to use without -t on the bug?
10:23 kf ok
10:22 sophie_m arghh, this is when -t parameter is not used
10:21 kf are you using the overdues script with -t?
10:20 kf perhaps I am using the overdues differently?
10:20 kf in this case
10:20 kf because I think no notice shoul be generated at all
10:20 sophie_m with the patch, only one letter is generated, listing both documents
10:20 kf I don't understand that I think
10:20 kf hm
10:19 sophie_m without the followup, two level1 letters where générated 1 for the first document and one for the second
10:19 sophie_m if a borrower has 2 books with overdue , one with 11 days and one with 15 for example
10:17 sophie_m you trigger level 1 after 10 days, leverl 2 after 20 and level 3 after 30
10:17 sophie_m kf : the test case if :
09:50 kf it's a great improvement
09:49 kf I would really like to see this go into 3.6
09:49 kf I was not able to find a test case for your follow-up
09:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6292 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , Overdue notices have a bug when multiple overdues exist
09:49 kf paul_p said to ask you about bug 6292
09:49 wahanui kf is, like, cait or really, really sweet. or <reply>she gives me memory loss
09:49 sophie_m kf ?
09:48 wahanui kf: I forgot sophie_m
09:48 kf wahanui: forget sophie_m
09:48 kf forget sophie_m wahanui
09:48 wahanui sophie_m is around, the best would be to ask here... Isn't the comment 13 enough ? (the test plan could be "have different overdues that would trigger different level of notice. Before the patch you get more than one letter, after the patch you just get a letter of the longest odue level, with all odues listed"
09:48 kf sophie_m?
09:25 hdl Amit_Gupta: ?
09:25 kf and triggering the same level with different due_dates is mathematically not possible - not as long as the overdues don't care about holidays
09:24 kf I am not sure which case the follow-up covers that didn't came up by testing
09:24 kf paul_p: I tested it for that- for me it worked without the follow-up
09:24 rangi it says the same level of notice, not a different one
09:23 rangi due_date triggering the same level
09:23 rangi Several letters where generated if a borrower had overdues with different
09:23 rangi hmm but thats not what comment 13 says
09:22 paul_p kf: sophie_m is around, the best would be to ask here... Isn't the comment 13 enough ? (the test plan could be "have different overdues that would trigger different level of notice. Before the patch you get more than one letter, after the patch you just get a letter of the longest odue level, with all odues listed"
09:08 Amit_Gupta hdl around?
09:08 Amit_Gupta hdl there
09:06 kf could you perhaps take a look?
09:06 kf and not sure what it's supposed to fix
09:06 kf I sigend off on 6292 but there is a follow up from sophie I have no test plan for
09:06 paul_p kf: yep
09:06 kf paul_p: have a second?
09:05 huginn kf: The operation succeeded.
09:05 kf @later tell wizzyrea: the layout on the paid for support page for Busara Core Solutions is a bit broken, can you take a look? :)
09:04 * paul_p switches to "QAing bugzilla patches" mode...
08:54 Oak i'll stop now
08:54 Oak :)
08:54 Oak Thank you = Shookriya
08:52 Oak thirsty = pyasaa
08:52 Oak thirst = pyaas
08:51 Oak water = pani
08:51 mtj hi adrien :)
08:50 Oak staff in hotel will understand English I think :)
08:48 adrien_s I guess it's impossible to pronounce correctly for us, so you may die before getting a glass of water
08:48 adrien_s I'm hungry = mujhe bhook lagi hai
08:48 adrien_s I'm thirsty = mujhe pyaas lagi hai
08:48 adrien_s First and last hindi lesson :
08:46 adrien_s we talked a little bit about Germany =)
08:45 paul_p (did adrien_s introduce himself here ? He's the new support guy at BibLibre)
08:45 paul_p adrien_s: you want to give us some lessons ?
08:44 adrien_s will you guys learn a few hindi words ? ;P
08:43 mtj ... and then we get stress-tested too
08:43 mtj looks like their wifi may get a little 'stress-testing'... :p
08:43 paul_p (hi mtj)
08:42 paul_p KohaCon attendies will fill vihang-inn... (only 32 rooms)
08:42 mtj paul_p: we are staying in vihang-inn too
08:41 mtj hiya pholks
08:41 rangi http://www.espncricinfo.com/rankings/content/page/211271.html
08:41 rangi both are hard to beat in cricket
08:40 rangi australia are easier for nz to beat in rugby, than sa are
08:40 rangi in cricket
08:40 rangi no they are actually playing well
08:40 adrien_s India won the last commonwealth games if I remember well, but I didn't notice how England got out of this
08:39 adrien_s England is easy to beat in cricket games ?! they must be sad about it :)
08:37 rangi yep, cos they are easier to beat :)
08:37 paul_p too late, you said "i'm glad australia won". I heard it! ;-)
08:37 rangi in cricket, i will choose sa, and england
08:36 rangi in rugby
08:36 rangi i will choose australia
08:36 rangi or australia and england
08:36 rangi well out of australia and south africa
08:36 rangi hehe
08:36 paul_p I want to register "i'm glad Australia won" !!!!
08:36 paul_p how to register a quote ?
08:35 rangi they only have 14 defenders :)
08:35 rangi quade cooper cant tackle
08:35 rangi easier to beat them than south africa
08:35 rangi im glad they won
08:35 paul_p yep. And you will have to get past your aussies friends
08:35 rangi :)
08:34 rangi gotta get past wales first
08:34 rangi hehe
08:34 paul_p rangi: OK, we let you the black shirt, you let us the cup. Sounds a reasonable deal ? :D
08:33 rangi paul_p: http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/5771983/France-to-cede-final-jersey-rights-to-All-Blacks
08:17 kf hi claire
08:16 clrh hello
07:21 adrien_s guten morgen :D
07:21 kf hi adrien_s :)
07:21 rangi hi adrien_s
07:20 kf hi Amit_Gupta ;)
07:18 hdl hi all
07:18 Amit_Gupta heya kf ;)
07:16 asaurat1 hi
07:15 kf hi hdl
07:15 kf hi #koha
07:10 rangi hi hdl and francharb
07:09 francharb hello all
07:07 Amit_Gupta hi hdl
06:55 cait will be back
06:55 cait grrr
06:55 cait permission_system--
06:53 cait eythian: I think it did once, there is code like that, only it does not work
06:53 julian_m hello!
06:52 * eythian mosies along
06:51 Oak :) hi
06:51 Amit_Gupta hi Oak
06:50 Oak i hv nt Amit_Gupta
06:49 Amit_Gupta any body try koha with solr
06:49 rangi yeah
06:49 eythian It's silly for every bit of code to have to check
06:48 eythian I think haspermissions should understand superlibrarians.
06:48 eythian Unless bit 1 isn't superlib, in which case the whole & 1 thing is wrong anyway
06:48 eythian I think
06:48 rangi warn it
06:48 eythian but, if superlib is set, it should always be odd.
06:48 rangi yep its easy to test
06:48 * eythian isn't testing this right now, so take it with a grain of salt
06:47 rangi hmm
06:47 eythian noo, shouldn't be
06:47 rangi which i think is caused if you have more than superlibrarian set
06:47 eythian no cape.
06:47 eythian yeah, so not a superlibrarian
06:47 eythian oh right
06:47 rangi 261886
06:47 rangi yeah it was even
06:47 eythian but, I'd start by printing out the flags.
06:46 alex_a hello
06:46 rangi in summary, it tests for odd number
06:46 rangi :)
06:46 eythian that explanation was a little too sbstract perhaps
06:46 eythian which is what & 1 does, it just gives you bit number 1, and if its set it's true
06:45 eythian which means that the superlibrarian bit is set
06:45 eythian you're not testing if it's one, you testing if it's an odd number.
06:44 cait um 1
06:44 cait the sysprefs overwrite it, because it's never 0
06:44 cait it's really only the superlibrarian part that's broken
06:44 cait but the other parts work
06:44 cait eythian: I can do that
06:43 eythian which is helpful :)
06:43 eythian well, if you split it into parts, then you debug each part of it separately.
06:43 cait eythian: and I know it's ugly - but only saying it's ugly is not helpful :)
06:42 cait eythian: thx for looking at it :)
06:39 magnuse bonjour reiveune and cait et al
06:38 cait hi reiveune and magnuse
06:38 reiveune hi Oak, cait, magnuse, everybody
06:37 magnuse kia ora #koha
06:36 cait :P
06:36 eythian cait: feel free to write my kohacon talk ;)
06:36 magnuse Oak
06:36 cait eythian: feel free to improve it
06:36 eythian I'd be inclined to split that if into multiple parts.
06:36 eythian yeah, it's a good place to start
06:35 rangi before the if
06:35 rangi id do a warn $userenv->{'flags'};
06:35 cait I know
06:35 eythian a 5-line if condition is never going to be debuggable.
06:34 Oak hello reiveune
06:34 eythian that's some terrible code really
06:34 Oak magnuse
06:33 cait http://paste.koha-community.org/74
06:33 eythian cait: perhaps throw 'warn's in where you expect the code to go, and see where it's going and what values it has
06:32 reiveune hello
06:32 cait only the user's
06:32 cait but still not all baskets show up
06:32 cait and the user has superlibrarian rights
06:32 cait I have set the sys pref to 'only baskets created by this user'
06:32 cait but it doesn't :(
06:31 eythian I would expect & 1 to return true if the flag indicates the person is a superlibrarian
06:30 cait and the second patch
06:30 cait running around, getting ready for work
06:30 cait sorry
06:30 cait bookseller.pl...
06:30 cait oh yes
06:27 ropuch Any success?
06:27 eythian cait: there are two patches on that bug, and neither touches basket.pl
06:27 cait yep
06:27 ropuch cait: still strugling with superlibrarian check?
06:27 cait defensively?
06:26 cait patch attached to bug
06:26 cait eythian: basket.pl
06:26 cait the '' are not there, sorry
06:26 cait ah
06:24 eythian so, if (($userenv->{'flags'} & 1) ||
06:23 eythian cait: and I'd bracket defensively there
06:23 eythian cait: also, no need for '' around the 1 (although it shouldn't hurt, but it might)
06:23 Amit_Gupta heya ropuch
06:22 ropuch Morning #koha
06:21 Amit_Gupta ??
06:21 Amit_Gupta hdl around
06:21 eythian what line number/file?
06:20 cait if ($userenv->{'flags'} & '1' ||
06:20 cait I changed the superlibrarian line ot
06:20 cait 6390
06:20 eythian what's the bug number?
06:19 cait but it's still not showing me all baskets when I am a superlibraian
06:19 cait got past the perl error
06:19 cait because it's still not working
06:19 cait you still can help
06:19 cait eythian:
06:17 eythian happy to help.
06:14 cait never mind
06:14 cait ok, I see it
06:12 cait $loggedinuser->{'flags'} & 1
06:11 cait it doesn't like the change ian suggests
06:11 cait Can't use string ("1") as a HASH ref while "strict refs" in use at /home/katrin/kohaclone/acqui/booksellers.pl line 118.
06:11 cait hmpf
06:07 laurence hi Amit_Gupta
06:07 Amit_Gupta heya laurence
05:52 Oak :^)
05:52 cait lol
05:52 Oak hm, detective cait and detective eythian working on a case. cool :)
05:51 eythian I hate our internal DNS management tool, I very nearly deleted an entire company domain when I intended to just delete a subdomain.
05:50 cait perhaps
05:50 cait hm
05:50 eythian My assumption is that they copy-pasted content from a PDF, which does that sort of thing.
05:50 eythian it is a lot weird.
05:48 cait that sounds a bit weird
05:48 cait ok?
05:44 eythian but ones you use typesetting, like making 'fi' one character.
05:43 eythian they weren't normal ligatures like � either
05:43 eythian which is super-crazy.
05:43 eythian the data had ligatures in it, defined by control characters.
05:42 eythian yep
05:42 cait sounds pretty normal
05:42 eythian (most of which was dealing with crazy character set issues.)
05:42 cait :)
05:42 eythian sweet, first draft of a soon-to-be-Koha-library migration from Liberty completed in about 3 days.
05:39 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6199] Allow bulkmarcimport to blank duplicate barcodes rather than skipping items <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6199> / [Bug 7008] Sometimes zebra needs a tmp directory that it doesn't create itself <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7008>
05:36 eythian someone had added stuff that modified the record (stripping the item details) when it needed them later when it attempted to readd them.
05:35 cait cool :)
05:35 eythian yeah
05:34 cait but you found the problem?
05:33 eythian it was working for me the whole time, but I think maybe there'd been a change somewhere that upset it, and you were on a newer version (or something like that.)
05:32 cait glad you finally believed me :P
05:32 eythian cait: yep
05:27 cait eythian: 6199?
05:27 rangi hmm
05:17 Oak oh well
05:17 wizzyrea mhm
05:17 cait :)
05:17 wizzyrea resluts.
05:17 wizzyrea nope
05:16 wahanui I LIKE BAO or all about the resluts
05:16 cait wizzyrea?
05:16 cait I think it was not for me
05:16 Oak next time wizzyrea readies the slapping trout, get your helmet!
05:16 Oak now you know
05:16 Oak :)
05:15 cait lol
05:15 Oak cait, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhJQp-q1Y1s
05:14 cait hi Amit_Gupta
05:14 Amit_Gupta heya cait
05:13 cait and hi rangi
05:12 cait stupid glitch
05:12 cait lol
05:12 wizzyrea stupid glitch.
05:12 wizzyrea yes and no - it's by choice
05:12 rangi late night wizzyrea ?
05:12 Oak oh hello rangi
05:12 * wizzyrea waves
05:12 rangi and oak
05:12 rangi hi cait and wizzyrea
05:11 wizzyrea never mind
05:10 cait ?
05:10 * wizzyrea readies the slapping trout
05:10 cait thought so hehe
05:10 eythian nope :D
05:09 cait I can never make you happy, can I?
05:09 cait lol
05:09 eythian cait: you're up late.
05:08 Oak kia ora #koha
05:08 cait hi Oak
05:08 Oak Guten Tag cait
05:08 cait morning #koha
04:32 eythian hello
04:31 Amit_Gupta heya eythian
04:31 Amit_Gupta hmm
04:17 eythian so, a bit over 2 weeks.
04:17 eythian I sent mine on the 26th, they put it in the post today.
04:16 jransom ethian: my visa took weeks to get
04:15 jransom and leave on the 12th
04:15 jransom I get there on the 22nd October
04:15 jransom I got my travel documents today
03:59 eythian Apparently my visa will be arriving tomorrow.
03:58 Amit_Gupta on which date r u coming to india?
03:58 Amit_Gupta heya jransom
03:47 jransom heya Amit
03:27 rangi hi Amit_Gupta
03:27 Amit_Gupta heya chris gm
03:27 Amit_Gupta heya all
01:30 libsysguy1 i keep making that typo when i am writing my OOPerl stuff
01:29 rangi :)
01:29 libsysguy1 i knew it!!
01:29 rangi that stuck
01:29 rangi its a typo of self
01:29 libsysguy1 so who knows if slef is a play on words for $self
01:29 wahanui slef was last seen on #koha 1 days, 6 hours, 55 minutes and 53 seconds ago, saying: biab [Mon Oct 10 18:32:02 2011]
01:29 libsysguy1 seen slef
01:28 libsysguy1 ok thanks rangi++
01:27 rangi yes
01:25 libsysguy1 so if I have two overdue books there would be two tuples?
01:24 libsysguy1 the breakdown of charges is in that table right?
01:24 libsysguy1 cursed schema page :p
01:24 rangi http://schema.koha-community.org/tables/accountlines.html
01:24 libsysguy1 well it is less about the structure
01:24 jcamins It's evil.
01:23 rangi theres a website for that
01:23 libsysguy1 anybody around that can maybe give me a brief rundown of the accountlines table?