Time  Nick         Message
23:57 slef         I'd just like to mutter "bah, this code says LibLime all over it". I think I've earned that ;)
23:55 slef         I didn't find it in http://manual.koha-community.org/3.4/en/
23:54 Judit        scary question
23:54 slef         I'm probably getting this horribly wrong :)
23:54 slef         no worries... I'm surprised no-one else is talking here
23:54 Judit        :)
23:54 slef         hi caps lock :)
23:54 Judit        sorry
23:54 Judit        OH
23:54 Judit        THANKS FOR LOOKING INTO THIS
23:53 slef         can't find it in 3.5... this is strange. I think it would be worth asking the koha@lists.katipo.co.nz how one edits the message_attributes, if it's not in the manual. Would you mind?
23:51 slef         I'm a bit puzzled. At least in 3.2.9, it looks like there's no interface to it except using a mysql client... now checking 3.5
23:44 slef         I probably should just log into Koha. Maybe that'd be quicker
23:43 slef         yeah... I'm trying to look up where you define them now
23:42 Judit        so it depends on the messgae attributes not on the sample notices?
23:42 slef         aha, got it back
23:41 slef         and I've just broke my terminal :)
23:41 slef         it looks like you need to define some message_attributes to get the box to appear on the page you were looking at
23:41 Judit        sorry
23:41 Judit        it was 6am- yesterday when i did it, i dont remember
23:40 slef         ah... did you load sample_notices_message_attributes?
23:39 slef         ok, so what I actually need to ponder is message_attributes.message_attribute_id = message_transports.message_attribute_id
23:39 slef         I've often asked for 36h days but hey, where's my ambition
23:39 slef         mmm 61h days... I need some of those
23:38 slef         it's not just me, is it? those names are a bit close
23:38 Judit        not 61
23:38 Judit        16!!
23:38 Judit        maybe it is the 61h day, you know
23:38 Judit        :)
23:38 slef         bloody stupid naming
23:38 slef         that says GetMessagingOptions
23:37 slef         I was looking at GetMessagingPreferences
23:37 slef         arrrrrrrrrrgh
23:37 slef
23:37 slef         PREF: foreach my $option ( @$messaging_options ) {
23:37 slef         my $messaging_options = C4::Members::Messaging::GetMessagingOptions();
23:37 slef         # walk through the options and update them with these borrower_preferences
23:37 slef         there's this bit:
23:36 slef         Like I don't mean why it doesn't work in your case... I mean why it ever works.
23:36 slef         This could be because a) it doesn't in the version I'm looking at OR b) it's 00:35 and I've just done a 16h day :)
23:35 slef         I don't actually understand how this bit works at all.
23:35 Judit        so i am not the only one- good!
23:35 slef         ok, I'm confused :)
23:35 slef         or is it
23:35 Judit        :D
23:35 slef         ok, that's irrelevant actually
23:34 Judit        ehm
23:33 slef         it means I've something to think about :)
23:33 slef         message_attributes.message_name = ?
23:33 slef         borrower_message_transport_preferences.borrower_message_preference_id = borrower_message_preferences.borrower_message_preference_id / message_attributes.message_attribute_id = borrower_message_preferences.message_attribute_id / message_transports.message_attribute_id = message_attributes.message_attribute_id AND    message_transports.message_transport_type = borrower_message_transport_preferences.message_transport_type WHERE
23:33 Judit        :)
23:33 Judit        does that mean good or bad?
23:33 slef         oooh yuck :)
23:32 slef         C4::Members::Messaging::GetMessagingOptions
23:31 slef         C4::Form::MessagingPreferences::set_form_values({ categorycode => $categorycode } , $template);
23:31 slef         Judit: ok, I'm looking that up... excuse my mumbling for a moment
23:30 slef         magnus_away: thanks for saying my name ;-)
23:30 slef         liw: yeah, we've the usual fun with other events that can outbid us. We'll nail it down and be very very noisy as soon as we can.
23:30 Judit        koha/admin/categorie.pl?op=add_form&categorycode=L
23:28 slef         (I'd avoid linking your admin interface in this chat because it ends up on a public website)
23:28 slef         the bit from /cgi-bin/ onwards is fine
23:27 slef         do you have the URL for the page where you set the default messaging categories handy?
23:27 slef         I don't think the current situation makes sense, but maybe someone knows why it is this way.
23:26 slef         yeah, I think you're basically right: either we need a way that you can get all the functions with you unticked that; or you shouldn't be able to untick that.
23:25 Judit        yes, i did:)
23:25 slef         It looks to me like the checkbox for sample_notices is ticked, but you can untick it if you want
23:25 Judit        but i still had no box in the patron category
23:25 Judit        and i have created new notices - copied and pasted over the subject, name, code, from an other koha
23:25 slef         I'll check but not until the morning.
23:24 Judit        i dont remember to be honest
23:24 Judit        you know the box was missing al together
23:24 Judit        but then could not set the default messaging preferences in patron category
23:23 slef         was it labelled something like "you really should install this"?
23:23 Judit        i have installed a koha-3.4.5- without the sample messages with no problem
23:22 slef         Let me check if it looks possible
23:22 slef         I think if you can install koha and not install a database part that's in the mandatory collection, that seems like a bug to me.
23:21 Judit        yes, like the item due, and advanced notice, item checkout, item check-in, hold filled
23:20 slef         when you wrote "default notices", you meant the sample_notices, right?
23:20 slef         sample_notices_message_attributes and sample_notices_message_transports are in optional in 3.5
23:19 slef         hrm, sample_notices is in mandatory... sort of the wrong name
23:19 Judit        and for my first question, if i am right: is that a bug or a feature?
23:19 slef         depends on your point of view
23:19 Judit        was it his fault or he just takes the blame?
23:18 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5898 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , search to hold feature not clearing
23:18 slef         but sample_notices really seem to be in optional when they are almost required
23:18 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6977 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, fcapovilla, ASSIGNED , Support for repeated subfields when importing an authority into a biblio record field.
23:18 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Fix for Bug 5898 - search to hold feature not clearing
23:18 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5630 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , CAS improvements
23:18 jenkins_koha * frederick.capovilla: Bug 6977 : Adds support for repeatable subfields when importing authorities.
23:18 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Bug 5630, follow-up
23:18 jenkins_koha * ian.walls: Bug 5630 Followup: checkpw_ldap not imported
23:18 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 5630 CAS improvements
23:18 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #473: SUCCESS in 47 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/473/
23:18 slef         and I think I read the boat's captain is in court
23:17 slef         I'm checking 3.5 / master
23:17 Judit        and how bad the situation is with the oil spill?
23:16 Judit        and 3.2.9
23:16 Judit        3.4.5
23:16 Judit        it this correct?
23:16 Judit        even if you create new notices with the same name, subject and code
23:16 Judit        if you dont install the default notices during the initial webinstall- you dont have the option to set the Default messaging preferences for the patron categories
23:14 Judit        hi
22:31 jenkins_koha Starting build 473 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
22:31 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5528 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, tajoli, ASSIGNED , Analytical records support
22:31 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bumping db version
22:31 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 5528: Analytic records support
22:31 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #472: SUCCESS in 47 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/472/
22:21 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 5898 - search to hold feature not clearing <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7f6656aff84b2e9e47dd3317e8c72d69aaa8e433>
22:11 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6977 : Adds support for repeatable subfields when importing authorities. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f97726406697f7973d2f8118049acaac2f95a3ed>
22:01 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5630, follow-up <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1c0702c76e50173289a0ee340a9c5f190515d9c3> / Bug 5630 Followup: checkpw_ldap not imported <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=74c7c4e3a5d6a3ec20b525936c5ffe2f9b188744> / Bug 5630 CAS improvements <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=046c996c2fa8150b8c6a037976c9c22826e04b8b>
22:00 JoeLib001    'cause I wouldn't call that a feature. :-)
22:00 JoeLib001    Is there a place where I could enter the problem as a bug?
21:58 JoeLib001    Hehe. :-)
21:58 bg           it wouldn't be there anymore ;)  heh
21:58 JoeLib001    Ah.
21:58 JoeLib001    Anyone know what would happen, if I just delete the Z39.50 Server entry from the z3950 table?
21:58 bg           JoeLib001: you can most likely just remove it from the database instead of using the GUI
21:57 JoeLib001    :-)
21:57 NateC        at least im not worried about falling into the ocean though
21:57 bg           love it
21:57 wahanui      I LIKE SPACE AND MY WIFE
21:57 bg           NateC?
21:57 huginn       JoeLib001: The current temperature in WWater Treatment, Cleburne, Texas is 26.1�C (4:51 PM CDT on October 12, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 32%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 28.97 in 980.9 hPa (Falling).
21:57 JoeLib001    @wunder 76031
21:57 NateC        yeah rub it in
21:57 bg           eat that NateC
21:56 huginn       bg: The current temperature in Third Avenue Park, West Haven, Connecticut is 15.3�C (5:50 PM EDT on October 12, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1018.8 hPa (Falling).
21:56 bg           @wunder 06516
21:56 bg           I think that's the highest that I've seen
21:56 bg           holy shit that's a high!
21:56 huginn       bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 34.9�C (2:55 PM PDT on October 12, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 20%. Dew Point: 9.0�C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007.0 hPa (Steady).
21:56 bg           @wunder 93109
21:56 JoeLib001    I am unable to delete a Z39.50 Server entry. I think it is because I put a + in the title .
21:50 ibeardslee   classy
21:49 rangi        heh
21:49 eythian      http://imgur.com/r/reddit.com/YZnHu
21:47 rangi        not landing in the US
21:47 eythian      cait: yeah
21:47 rangi        thats it
21:47 cait         esta?
21:47 eythian      ah cool
21:47 rangi        but no direct akl to van
21:47 rangi        yeah, its still valid from ALA
21:47 rangi        i knew i didnt last time, but who knows
21:47 eythian      I doubt you'd need one for there, unless you're going via the US in which case you'll have to use there "I promise I won't take over the plane" system
21:46 rangi        i dont
21:46 rangi        phew
21:46 rangi        bit screwed if thats not the case ;)
21:46 rangi        but i just assumed i dont need one for canada
21:45 rangi        i probably should check
21:45 cait         you are really going :)
21:45 rangi        awesome
21:45 cait         whoohoo
21:45 * eythian    has his passport back with an Indian visa in it.
21:43 jenkins_koha Starting build 472 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
21:43 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5459 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , merging records loses holds from one
21:43 jenkins_koha Chris Cormack: Bug 5459 - Holds not being shifted when merging biblios
21:43 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #471: SUCCESS in 48 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/471/
21:31 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Bumping db version <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d205c2795799821bfb560109b841eafac7b239b1> / Bug 5528: Analytic records support <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f09e2ca27ee89860dbdd0ca512735f37fbfaf8a6>
20:54 jenkins_koha Starting build 471 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
20:51 rangi        :)
20:50 wizzyrea     so excited about that one
20:49 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5459 - Holds not being shifted when merging biblios <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=71defcbc6c851f54da223c040aa5d95e0bd43b73>
20:42 wizzyrea     ok right. backups.
20:42 cait         hehe
20:42 wizzyrea     lol
20:41 rangi        https://twitter.com/#!/wowser/status/124133829572169728
20:41 wizzyrea     I was hoping
20:41 wizzyrea     drat.
20:41 wizzyrea     !
20:41 wizzyrea     ! is www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1Y73sPHKxw
20:40 trea         that's what i hear in my head
20:40 wizzyrea     you are welcome
20:40 rangi        heh
20:39 wizzyrea     www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1Y73sPHKxw
20:39 wizzyrea     hehe
20:39 trea         bum bum BUMMMMMMMM
20:38 rangi        dead i say
20:38 rangi        we are all dead
20:38 rangi        if you figure out how to do that with js
20:37 gmcharlt     and, yes, adding a field doesn't mean that opac-userupate.pl would automatically know what to do it with it
20:37 cait         depends what the software does with it
20:37 gmcharlt     but it can't, in and of itself, populate that 'sort1' field for you with existing data unless it's already being passwd back in the template
20:37 cait         yeah
20:37 maximep      the problem is probably saving the field
20:36 gmcharlt     trea: yeah, you can use jquery to do enough DOM manipulation to create an input field
20:36 cait         hm not sure that will work
20:34 trea         can you use jquery to add an input field to a form? ie, adding "sort1" to opac-userupdate.pl
20:22 rangi        :)
20:22 rangi        c'mon you know you all want to!
20:21 cait         there, something nice and shiny to sign off :)
20:21 rangi        who wants to sign off on that
20:21 huginn       New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6390] Basket only visible for librarian who created it <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6390>
20:21 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6390 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, ef, ASSIGNED , Basket only visible for librarian who created it
20:21 rangi        oh bug 6390
20:21 wizzyrea     haha
20:21 rangi        :)
20:21 huginn       gmcharlt: Not yet - wait 10 days
20:21 gmcharlt     @arewethereyet
20:21 gmcharlt     let's try this again
20:21 rangi        i still havent finished my presentation
20:21 wizzyrea     oh.
20:20 rangi        better not be
20:20 wizzyrea     woohoo!
20:20 gmcharlt     liar
20:20 huginn       gmcharlt: YES!
20:20 gmcharlt     @arewethereyet
20:12 jcamins      Very good news.
20:12 rangi        it will get pushed sometime today
20:12 jcamins      rangi++
20:12 jcamins      Yippee!
20:12 rangi        barring any suprises
20:11 rangi        im doing checks on it this morning
20:11 jcamins      Woohoo!
20:11 rangi        jcamins: 5528 passed qa
20:11 mle          tired, but happy. on the train. dealing with the loud people talking ON THE PHONE. ;)
20:11 rangi        hows you?
20:11 rangi        good thanks, frantically trying to finish a presentation, and deal with a release in 9ish days
20:10 mle          how are you?
20:10 mle          hey rangi
20:09 rangi        hi mle
20:06 mle          : )
19:50 chris_n      I was rather thinking of an automated one
19:49 huginn       New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7016] CanBookBeReserved uses GetItemsInfo unnecessarily <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7016>
19:49 chris_n      well... that would be one other thing to keep up with
19:49 libsysguy    ^^
19:49 slef         so add one
19:46 chris_n      the topic bar needs a count-down timer to release day
19:46 chris_n      10 days and counting
19:44 libsysguy    tis...that way it keeps the url clean
19:44 * jcamins    is inclined to say that session is preferable.
19:43 libsysguy    i've done it using catalyst but im sure it wouldn't be too much different with the Koha base
19:43 libsysguy    either way would be easy
19:43 libsysguy    well we could either stash searches in the session or in the url
19:42 libsysguy    hehe cait
19:42 cait         my automatic translation program does a good job, eh? ;)
19:42 jcamins      libsysguy++ # for volunteering to have Koha remember searches.
19:42 libsysguy    I thought it would be
19:42 jcamins      It'd be easy.
19:42 libsysguy    just a random thought
19:42 libsysguy    yeah like what cait said
19:41 jcamins      You mean, populating the advanced search boxes?
19:41 libsysguy    basically pre-populate the advanced search form
19:41 cait         I would like that
19:41 cait         remembering the last search
19:41 cait         hm
19:41 jcamins      libsysguy: what do you mean?
19:41 huginn       libsysguy: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready
19:41 libsysguy    huginn replies to @random?
19:41 wizzyrea     http://play.aadl.org/
19:41 huginn       libsysguy: I suck
19:41 libsysguy    @random....how hard would it be to push the url variables from a current search into the advanced search if a user navigated there?
19:39 rangi        oh look i commented on that blog too
19:39 jcamins      She was one of the catalogers at my undergrad institution.
19:39 rangi        http://coffeecode.net/archives/234-Responding-to-the-Evergreen-research-article-in-Information-Technology-and-Libraries.html
19:39 rhcl         whois melissa hofmann
19:39 rangi        *nod*
19:38 jcamins      Yeah... if you look at the dates of the study, it becomes clear... their data was three years old.
19:38 rangi        etc
19:38 rangi        evergreen also has rss feeds
19:37 rangi        i remember dan scott pointed out a lot of the flaws for evergreen in a blog post
19:37 rangi        not true for either Koha or evergreen
19:37 rangi        nor is there any indication that the search is ANDed
19:37 rangi        there is no option to choose OR or NOT between rows,
19:37 rangi        all obvious to the user. In the demo OPACs examined,
19:37 rangi        however, the terms are ANDed only, a fact that is not at
19:37 rangi        In Koha’s and Evergreen’s advanced search,
19:36 rangi        yeah exactly
19:35 jcamins      Not a single Koha catalog represented.
19:35 jcamins      Oh, ouch.
19:34 rangi        f
19:34 rangi        if its the voyager compared one im thinking og
19:34 rangi        yeah i think its the quite badly done one im afraid :(
19:34 jcamins      This does seem a bit familiar.
19:34 rangi        at least im pretty sure it is
19:33 jcamins      Wait.
19:33 * jcamins    hasn't read it yet.
19:33 rangi          2010
19:33 rangi        oh thats an old one
19:33 jcamins      Yeah, she just got a publication! http://www.ala.org/ala/mgrps/divs/lita/publications/ital/29/3/yang.pdf
19:33 rangi        oh?
19:32 jcamins      Ooh, I should congratulate Melissa Hofmann.
19:29 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7015 enhancement, P5, ---, cnighswonger, NEW , Fixup Template Code to Accommodate More Variety of Label Styles
19:29 * chris_n    opens bug 7015 to keep track of this idea
19:21 chris_n      hmm... using an xml description of the template specs would allow for a lot greater flexibility in accommodating varieties of templates
19:20 rangi        thanks
19:19 chris_n      wb rangi
19:18 rangi        back
19:15 * chris_n    encounters a buffer overrun error while attempting to assign time to his schedule for such a modification
19:14 chris_n      the template code will need modification to allow variations in the size of columns
19:14 chris_n      yup, just as I suspected
19:12 cait         chris_n = talking about labels :)
19:12 cait         makes sense
19:11 chris_n      gaylord labels
19:11 cait         ah, there is a vendor called lsl
19:11 chris_n      man, can't spell today :P
19:11 cait         seems all I do today is making wahanui forget things
19:11 chris_n      ops
19:11 chris_n      ed?
19:11 wahanui      cait: I forgot edi
19:11 cait         forget edi
19:11 wahanui      edi is something weve been wanting too
19:11 cait         edi?
19:11 cait         lsl04?
19:10 rangi        ok my stop
19:10 * chris_n    examines the lsl04 template
19:08 chris_n      I think the problem may come with the template code which assumes all columns on a sheet of labels are the same dimension
19:06 chris_n      but I "think" that is what was intended back in days of yore when the code was first created
19:05 chris_n      I'm not sure alt will work in the present state of things
19:05 chris_n      the proof of the pudding is in the crust as they say
19:05 chris_n      hmm...
19:04 jcamins      chris_n++
19:04 jcamins      I stand corrected.
19:03 jcamins      Huh.
19:03 sekjal       back, as well
18:59 rangi        :)
18:58 bg           hi back
18:57 * cait       waves
18:56 rangi        back
18:47 huginn       libsysguy: The operation succeeded.
18:47 libsysguy    @later tell sekjal I'd like to talk about notices when you get some time
18:46 libsysguy    sekjal you around
18:41 libsysguy    hey #Koha
18:27 Oak          me go now. good night \o
18:22 jcamins      proven_backups++ # nothing worse than relying on a backup you've never tested. 99.95% chance it'll be corrupted.
18:21 wizzyrea     the worst part of this was finding a dang machine to put it on
18:21 wizzyrea     lesson kids: almost anything is surmountable if you have good and proven backups.
18:21 wizzyrea     not really
18:20 jcamins      Was that option on the table? Yikes! You're scary!
18:20 * wizzyrea   is glad I didn't make them recatalog them all
18:19 wizzyrea     wow, this library has more items than I thought
18:19 wizzyrea     hee
18:16 jcamins      Bomb diggle... that sounds like a mole that uses explosives. :)
18:16 rangi        bbiab
18:16 rangi        ok gotta go make breakfast for the kids
18:11 wizzyrea     someone buy eythian and liw lunch or something, packages = the bomb diggle.
18:10 wizzyrea     gmcharlt++
18:09 wizzyrea     that works a lot better >.>
18:09 wizzyrea     oh hey
18:09 bg           such a cute face there wizzyrea
18:09 wizzyrea     ty >.<
18:09 wizzyrea     i forgot that I was moving this from a nozebra to a zebra
18:08 * wizzyrea   can fix that
18:08 wizzyrea     ok
18:08 wizzyrea     hah
18:08 gmcharlt     since it means you have NoZebra turned on
18:08 wizzyrea     oh dear
18:08 gmcharlt     wizzyrea: you should be very, very, very worried
18:08 wizzyrea     I did koha-upgrade-to-3.4
18:07 wizzyrea     it seems to happen on every bib
18:07 * gmcharlt   takes a look
18:07 wizzyrea     it's the dev packages
18:06 wizzyrea     when running the 3.4 remove items from biblioitems
18:06 wahanui      master is probably for 3.6
18:06 gmcharlt     wizzyrea: master?
18:06 wizzyrea     Use of uninitialized value in pattern match (m//) at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Biblio.pm line 2841.
18:06 wizzyrea     should I be worried about this
18:06 wizzyrea     speaking of gmcharlt
18:06 wizzyrea     it's gmcharlt!
18:06 rangi        :)
18:06 gmcharlt     it's bg!
18:06 rangi        but thats because i use mutt with vim as its editor to write emails
18:05 rangi        i do
18:05 bg           yeah I'm always using vi commands in email or anything we're I need to type into  ( :wq ) !!!  heh
18:04 rangi        :)
18:04 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2505 major, P1, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , enable Perl warnings in all modules and scripts
18:04 rangi        trea can fix bug 2505 while he is at it
18:04 wizzyrea     keke
18:04 bg           it's gmcharlt
18:04 bg           oh you want the password
18:04 wizzyrea     bg: at least it wasn't the password
18:03 * jcamins    occasionally writes "/me" in e-mails.
18:01 * collum     has a tendency to type in VI commands into irc.  It hasn't worked, yet.
17:58 * bg         feels silly :P
17:57 bg           whoops wrong window :)
17:57 huginn       04Bug 2505: major, P1, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , enable Perl warnings in all modules and scripts
17:57 bg           trea http://ticket.bywatersolutions.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2505
17:53 chris_n      [off] so would 'apt-get remove windows' result in a stone-throwing session?
17:26 jcamins      There are about fifty gazillion mysql modules for puppet. Does anyone know which I should use?
17:23 gmcharlt     [off] jcamins: good point
17:23 jcamins      [off] gmcharlt: two. Also `apt-get remove windows`
17:18 gmcharlt     [off] rhcl shouldn't be too hard, especially since only one specific subcommand is really necessary - 'apt-get install linux' ;)
17:12 rhcl         [off]I wish somebody would port apt-get to Windows (at least as long as I have to work with Windows)
17:03 wizzyrea     i haven't seen this particular thing before
17:01 wizzyrea     when running the 3.4 update?
17:01 wizzyrea     Use of uninitialized value in pattern match (m//) at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Biblio.pm line 2841.
17:01 wizzyrea     should I be worried about a ton of
16:55 Oak          good luck
16:54 wizzyrea     :) but it worked
16:53 jcamins      Yikes!
16:50 wizzyrea     ya think?
16:50 wizzyrea     We are upgrading from Koha 3.00.00.107 to 3.05.00.011, you must update your database
16:50 wizzyrea     wish me luck
16:50 wizzyrea     lulz
16:43 cait         have a nice evening
16:43 cait         bye paul_p
16:42 paul_p       it's time to go back home for me. See you tomorrow #koha !
16:32 jcamins      wizzyrea: you're very welcome.
16:32 wizzyrea     jcamins++ thanks for the help
16:25 * oleonard   is leaving early
16:25 jcamins      oleonard: it's unlikely. Thanks for looking.
16:25 oleonard     jcamins: I'll look at it again tomorrow if you haven't gotten inspired before then.
16:18 jcamins      oleonard: oh, I guess I'm too distracted to notice that there are obvious patterns for when it works and when it doesn't.
16:18 oleonard     jcamins: It fails on the search results page because the function for adding multiple records only knows one error--the duplicate item error.
16:17 oleonard     jcamins: It works on the detail page because the function for adding a single record can complete with your error message
16:12 cait         hi again #koha
16:12 sekjal       lunch then appointment; back in a bit
16:11 clrh_        bybye
16:08 paul_p       WAing 6942 (sekjal)
16:04 jcamins      you're welcome.
16:04 wizzyrea     ty
16:03 wizzyrea     aha
16:02 pastebot     "jcamins" at 74.73.18.99 pasted "wizzyrea: Puppet config for Koha (note that it requires other modules)" (165 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/75
16:01 wizzyrea     yes, plz
16:01 wizzyrea     oo
16:00 jcamins      Lemme pastebin my Puppet config.
16:00 wizzyrea     I was just looking at that
16:00 wizzyrea     kool
16:00 jcamins      Yup.
16:00 jcamins      Though my Puppet configuration is somewhat superior.
16:00 wizzyrea     koha on lucid using koha packages?
16:00 jcamins      There's a wiki page which is accurate.
16:00 wizzyrea     I don't mind manual work
16:00 jcamins      Speaking of which, aren't we due for a new LTS release?
16:00 * wizzyrea   is
15:59 wizzyrea     ah
15:59 jcamins      Bit of manual work then.
15:59 jcamins      Unless you're on Ubuntu 10.04.
15:59 wizzyrea     dependencies are installed and all that jazz
15:59 jcamins      The Debian ones work fine.
15:59 jcamins      Right.
15:59 wizzyrea     the debian ones on ubuntu I mean
15:59 jcamins      No problems yet. :)
15:59 jcamins      I don't know what launchpad packages are.
15:59 wizzyrea     those work ok?
15:59 wizzyrea     oh i SEE
15:59 jcamins      (I've been using the Debian packages on Ubuntu)
15:58 jcamins      wizzyrea: I've been using the packages at debian.koha-community.org, but there are also "launchpad" packages.
15:58 wizzyrea     did I hear someone say there were ubuntu packages?
15:56 sekjal       5528 passed (wehoo!)
15:54 jcamins      At least that wasn't my fault. ;)
15:54 jcamins      Ah.
15:54 oleonard     jcamins: Not a breakthrough, but a head-smacking step forward: We were checking valCookie.length instead of arrayRecords.length when looping over arrayRecords!
15:52 oakivil      thanks a million again
15:52 oakivil      ok got Zebra working
15:52 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6912 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, ASSIGNED , OPAC display crashes for analytical biblio without 008 field
15:52 jcamins      bug 6912
15:51 jcamins      oakivil: I have no idea, sorry.
15:51 paul_p       (should be quickly done)
15:51 oakivil      +1
15:50 paul_p       sekjal: & jcamins QAing 6912
15:50 jcamins      sekjal++
15:50 jcamins      Woohoo!
15:50 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5528 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, tajoli, ASSIGNED , Analytical records support
15:50 sekjal       jcamins & paul_p:  QAing bug 5528
15:50 oakivil      Is there any documentation about the sms:ing module?
15:49 oakivil      I have their interface specs and it is such a simple interface, no brainer.
15:49 oakivil      Can you tell me how can I add a new sms service provider?
15:46 oakivil      but it is nice that I am finally starting to understand this Koha system
15:46 oakivil      for sure I will take the least painfull path
15:46 jcamins      Okay, carry on. Use 650, because it'll be less painful. :)
15:45 oakivil      yup, importing, indexing
15:45 oakivil      actually I already did that according to a national committees established conversion rules using the USEMARCON-program
15:45 jcamins      In that case, I still recommend 650.
15:45 jcamins      Oh, that's good.
15:45 oakivil      we are converting FinMarc to Marc21
15:44 oakivil      but the Authority stuff is just made up from a RDF/XML type national vocabulary
15:44 jcamins      You'll need to do an entire new framework, with different indexing configurations, etc.
15:44 * jcamins    just looked it up.
15:44 oakivil      I mean in our library we use FinMarc
15:44 jcamins      Ignore everything we said, FINMARC is quite different from MARC21.
15:44 jcamins      I have some... not-so-good news, if the data you're using is FINMARC.
15:44 oakivil      yes
15:43 jcamins      oakivil: You're using FINMARC?
15:43 oakivil      ok
15:43 jcamins      It won't make any practical difference, other than you won't have to rewrite everything.
15:43 oakivil      but i dont know the FinMARC we are using either
15:42 jcamins      Yeah, you'll probably be happier using 650.
15:42 oakivil      Actually no one in our library knows marc21 that well
15:42 oakivil      No idea
15:42 oakivil      I am not a Marc-pro thats for sure
15:41 jcamins      oakivil: it's not that you can't do things with 653, but if you don't understand MARC (and I'm guessing you don't really understand it), you're probably better off using something that's already configured.
15:41 sekjal       oakivil:  are you still aiming to create a new Authority Type?
15:41 jcamins      oakivil: topical term is a general subject.
15:40 oakivil      ok
15:40 kf           bye all
15:40 kf           now I am leaving :)
15:40 kf           in authority the main heading goes into 150 then, in your bibliographic files it will end up in 650
15:40 kf           yep
15:40 kf           ep
15:40 oakivil      for testing sake
15:40 oakivil      I can do that tho
15:40 oakivil      what is that?
15:40 kf           yeah
15:40 oakivil      Topical Term?
15:39 jcamins      I would definitely still strongly recommend that you consider using 650/150.
15:39 oakivil      now i got it
15:39 jcamins      I'm not sure that's valid, though.
15:39 oakivil      ah ok
15:39 jcamins      So, 153.
15:39 oakivil      I think I'll take a look in the Zebra config
15:39 jcamins      oakivil: no, it *must* be the 1xx field that matches the 6xx field you're using.
15:39 jcamins      However, I have no idea whether you'll have to rewrite the Zebra configuration.
15:39 kf           I have to leave - will be back later as cait
15:39 oakivil      so any 1xx field will do?
15:38 oakivil      ok
15:38 jcamins      oakivil: it will help the Zebra issue.
15:38 oakivil      but it wont fix the zebra issue or will it?
15:38 oakivil      ok
15:38 jcamins      oleonard: I have no idea what to make of the problem with split, but I guess that's the problem.
15:38 kf           1xx for authority, 6xx for bibliographic
15:38 kf           but that's not what it should do
15:38 kf           yeah
15:38 oakivil      i modified the import script to put 653 to the custom INDEX_TERM Authority type using field 653
15:37 oakivil      kf: authority field 100 is imported into the Personal Name Authority type
15:35 kf           thx a lot :)
15:35 kf           alex_a++ now it works :)
15:34 oakivil      kf: bot in the database it made no difference
15:34 oleonard     The list I'm using starts at 1
15:34 jcamins      I guess you have short-ish biblionumbers?
15:34 kf           alex_a: it doesn't like that much
15:34 jcamins      oleonard: I ran into problems long before that, too.
15:34 oakivil      damn i didnt change those types or formats
15:33 jcamins      oleonard: oh, tht's weird.
15:33 oakivil      damn no its authority
15:33 kf           ah, that's the bibliographic - ignoreme
15:33 oleonard     ...but I don't know what it means.
15:33 kf           not 6xx
15:33 kf           oakivil: hm should be in 100 in your authority
15:33 oleonard     jcamins: If I output the contents of the array created by valCookie.split("/") it outputs "undefined" for items above index 1021
15:27 oakivil      format is wrong
15:26 oakivil      Sorry for the pastebin.
15:26 oakivil      </record>
15:26 oakivil      </datafield>
15:26 oakivil      <subfield code="a">suometsät</subfield>
15:26 oakivil      <datafield tag="653" ind1="" ind2="">
15:26 oakivil      <leader>     nz  a22     o  4500</leader>
15:26 oakivil      <record format="FINMARC" type="Bibliographic">
15:26 oakivil      what is a main heading? This is the format of the imported data:
15:26 oakivil      kf: zebra indexed with -a.
15:24 jcamins      Oh, oops, missed the end of line bit.
15:24 alex_a       and s/(\[|\]|,)//g;
15:24 alex_a       kf: try s/(;|\s{+})$//g
15:22 jcamins      kf: you need to put a vertical bar before the , and then add |; after the comma.
15:21 reiveune     bye
15:21 sekjal       paul_p: 6278 passed
15:21 alex_a       kf: ; at the end of a line ?
15:18 kf           I have this now, removes , too s/(\[|\],)//g;
15:18 kf           alex_a: I need to remove trailing spaces and ; too... can you give me another hint?
15:14 alex_a       kf: :)
15:14 kf           hm, although I think it should be, it might be not
15:14 kf           perhaps this is not indexed
15:13 kf           oakivil: ah, in which field is your main heading in the authorities?
15:13 kf           oakivil: have you zebra indexing with -a ?
15:12 kf           oakivil: only searching is the problem?
15:12 kf           works :)
15:12 kf           alex_a++
15:12 oakivil      no errors thrown
15:11 oakivil      jcamins: I have no idea whether or not the Zebra indexed properly
15:10 kf           great, thx!
15:10 jcamins      oakivil: well, if it imported successfully, clearly I was mistaken.
15:09 alex_a       $your_string =~ s/(\[|\])//g;
15:08 alex_a       kf: s/(\[|\])//g;
15:08 oakivil      jcamins: It will be a lot of trouble to convert XML to binary
15:08 jcamins      oakivil: oh, interesting. Then I have no idea what's wrong.
15:07 oakivil      koha.auth_header -table
15:07 oakivil      well the script said 29000 authorities imported just fine, and i can see them in the database
15:06 sekjal       thanks, oleonard!
15:06 kf           in perl
15:06 kf           I want to remove ,[] from a string
15:06 kf           can someone help me with regex?
15:06 jcamins      oakivil: you can't import MARCXML authorities. Only in binary MARC format, as far as I know.
15:05 oleonard     sekjal: $("#furtherm").attr("class","").attr("style","");
15:05 oakivil      Do i need to modify Zebra indexing rules to index field 653?
15:05 oakivil      Zebra is running and I can see it trying to look with the keywords I type to Authorities module. Zebra is also indexed after some fuss which required me to delete the locks in koha-dev/var/zebra -folder.
15:05 oakivil      Hello #Koha again! I was able to import Marc21XML-Authorities to a custom Authorities type INDEX_TERM on field 653. Trouble is that I cannot find my authorities from the authorities module.
15:00 sekjal       oleonard: do you have any tips on how I could get the "more searches" menu on the OPAC to break out of the dropdown and back into a plain, always-visible menu block?
14:54 jcamins      Except every so often, you get the right error.
14:54 * oleonard   missed that part
14:54 oleonard     Oh, okay
14:54 jcamins      Once you fill up the cookie, that's the error you get.
14:54 sekjal       jcamins and paul_p: will look at all those reports, yes
14:54 jcamins      oleonard: yes, that's the problem.
14:54 oleonard     No idea if it's related...
14:53 oleonard     jcamins: Strange, I'm getting an "already in your cart" error when I know it's not
14:53 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5528 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, tajoli, ASSIGNED , Analytical records support
14:53 jcamins      sekjal: when you get a chance, could you take a look at bug 5528
14:52 * paul_p     QAing 6885 (sekjal)
14:52 paul_p       sekjal: could you validate 6278 pls (should require just a minute)
14:43 chris_n      wizzyrea: yeah, probably a five-star restaurant at that
14:32 jcamins      What's particularly baffling is the way that it does work occasionally.
14:29 jcamins      Clearly it's buggy, but I haven't the foggiest where.
14:29 jcamins      Yeah. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.
14:29 * oleonard   would be happy to test
14:29 oleonard     Randomly? :)
14:28 jcamins      oleonard: would you like me to e-mail you the patch I have that works randomly?
14:28 jcamins      Well, that's more time than I should've spent on this.
14:28 alex_a       oleonard: ok
14:28 jcamins      Nope, no idea.
14:27 jcamins      Ohhh.
14:26 oleonard     alex_a: Client-side for speed (don't wait for the page to reload) and server-side as a fallback.
14:26 * paul_p     QAing 6253
14:26 paul_p       sekjal: OK, then I'll announce here what i'm working on & pls do the same to avoid duplicate effort. OK ?
14:25 alex_a       oleonard: why both server and client validation ?
14:25 sekjal       paul_p: QAing what comes to my attention first, either by email update or by request in channel
14:25 paul_p       me = sorted by Sev, and going from worst to lowest. http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/buglist.cgi?regetlastlist=13133
14:24 paul_p       sekjal: I see you're QAing. How do you choose what you QA, as i'm QAing too, and that would be bad to QA the same patches.
14:24 jcamins      It insists on giving an error that the record was already added.
14:23 jcamins      Nope, doesn't work, after all.
14:23 gboisson     or is there already one?
14:23 gboisson     i'll file a bug for this
14:23 gboisson     yes that would be good :)
14:22 oleonard     gboisson: We need to add server-and client-side validation for that
14:21 maximep      FF hasn't crashed for me in at least 6 months =)
14:21 gboisson     oleonard:kf: i have an explanation for the problem i encountered: autorized values cannot contain spaces (or accents, or unusual characters)
14:20 oleonard     On my Mac it's, "What did you do to make Firefox crash? Oh, you tried to quit Firefox? Why would you do that?"
14:17 wizzyrea     you'd have at least dinner at a fancy restaurant?
14:17 kf           hehe
14:16 * chris_n    wishes he had a nickel for every time FF told him how embarrassed it was for having crashed :-(
14:15 paul_p       (but you'll have to amend it to update the 1st description line with the correct patch number)
14:14 paul_p       maximep: the signed-off please
14:13 maximep      do I attach the signed off patch or my original?
14:12 paul_p       if the QA request just a few changes, a few doc,... usually, it's not needed. Sometimes the QA or RM request a new signoff, but not the most common case
14:11 paul_p       hi maximep. Not necessarily. it depends on the nature of the change. In this case no
14:11 kf           maximep: I hope not :)
14:10 jcamins      Adding records is boring.
14:10 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6879 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, pelletiermaxime, ASSIGNED , Actual price should show correctly on order line and basket summary
14:10 maximep      paul_p: replied to bug 6879. If I attach the patch to 6414, will it have to be signed off again ?
14:10 jcamins      For me, anyway.
14:06 jcamins      Okay, now it works.
14:05 oleonard     That has tripped me up before
14:05 jcamins      Weakly_typed_languages--
14:05 jcamins      I have to turn an integer into a string.
14:04 jcamins      Oh, I bet I know what I have to do.
14:03 jcamins      Well, it seemed like something I could easily fix.
14:03 * jcamins    gives up.
14:02 jcamins      val.length is undefined.
13:58 kf           lol
13:57 rhcl         uhhh, I'm in the wrong place
13:57 oleonard     jcamins: Did you stroke its hair gently and whisper in its ear?
13:54 jcamins      It keeps on reporting "No item was added to your cart (already in your cart)!" when it should be using my new message.
13:53 sekjal       oleonard:  5898 passed
13:53 jcamins      Okay... why is it displaying the wrong message?
13:47 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5898 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , search to hold feature not clearing
13:47 * oleonard   roots for Bug 5898
13:44 oleonard     Display of the cart is a tad slow when it has 1000+ titles in it :)
13:43 jcamins      Thanks.
13:42 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7011 normal, P5, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED , Warn the user that they have reached the limit of how many items they can have in their cart
13:42 oleonard     Bug 7011
13:40 * oleonard   uses Firefox's Web Developer Toolbar for this
13:40 jcamins      Good idea.
13:39 oleonard     jcamins: Yeah, I've been editing them directly just now using a dump of biblionumbers from my database
13:39 jcamins      Gee... it sure takes a while to get your cookie up to the maximum length.
13:38 oleonard     sekjal: Only that it's seems obvious to me why a patron would have holds placed on both books: There's a waiting list on both and they don't know which will arrive first!
13:37 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5459 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , merging records loses holds from one
13:37 sekjal       does anyone else have an opinion on bug 5459, before I mark it?
13:37 jcamins      Exactly.
13:36 oleonard     It's the best we can do since it's a browser limitation
13:35 jcamins      So, I guess it's not quite fixing it, more preventing it completely breaking your session.
13:35 jcamins      "You have tried to add too many items to your cart."
13:35 oleonard     Oh yeah, what do you have in mind?
13:35 jcamins      If you report the cart length limit bug, I'll fix it.
13:34 oleonard     jcamins: We use a jquery plugin for cookie handling in some places. In some (older) places we do it manually
13:34 jcamins      Thanks.
13:34 oleonard     console.log( foo );
13:31 jcamins      How do I print data to the console?
13:28 jcamins      Do we use YUI's cookie handling stuff?
13:23 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7010 enhancement, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW , Select all records from search
13:23 jcamins      I admit I didn't really expect anyone else was ever going to want bug 7010. Kind of cool that you could've used it. ;)
13:21 oleonard     http://www.nczonline.net/blog/2008/05/17/browser-cookie-restrictions/
13:20 jcamins      That's not 4000 bytes per cookie, that's 4000 bytes per domain.
13:20 jcamins      Oh, eep!
13:20 oleonard     I was doing it via the cart because adding to the cart is faster
13:19 oleonard     I wanted to add all the results of my search to a list :)
13:19 oleonard     jcamins: In fact I discovered the bug when I was doing a task which could have used your suggested feature!
13:19 jcamins      Probably is.
13:19 jcamins      4000 characters.
13:18 oleonard     ...if it really is a cookie size limit.
13:18 oleonard     I'll have to test again... it probably depends on the length of the biblionumbers rather than the number of items
13:18 jcamins      I'm thinking if it's too many, have the OPAC alert the user.
13:17 jcamins      How many items can you have in the cart?
13:17 jcamins      Yeah.
13:17 oleonard     You'll have to figure out how to limit the option to just the lists then, since the controls are linked
13:17 jcamins      Good thing, I guess.
13:16 jcamins      :)
13:16 jcamins      Okay, I didn't *really* care about the cart anyway. Just lists.
13:16 * oleonard   should file a bug for that
13:16 oleonard     Makes sense, but if you try to add too many items to a cart things will go wrong. Cookie size limit I think.
13:15 jcamins      I mean, the language, not the feature.
13:15 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7010 enhancement, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW , Select all records from search
13:15 jcamins      Does bug 7010 make sense to people?
13:04 huginn       New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6996] Encoding problem in opac-showmarc <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6996>
13:03 huginn       kf: Place of publication, distribution, etc. May contain the abbreviation [S.l.] when the place is unknown. (Repeatable)
13:03 kf           @marc 260 a
13:03 huginn       kf: I suck
13:03 kf           @marc260$a
13:03 huginn       kf: Information relating to the publication, printing, distribution, issue, release, or production of a work. (Repeatable) [a,b,c,e,f,g,3,6,8]
13:03 kf           @marc 260
13:03 kf           gboisson: don't be afraid to ask questions :) we will try to help
13:02 kf           :)
13:01 gboisson     :)
13:01 gboisson     i have started working for biblibre just one week ago !
13:01 gboisson     true, i spoke with kf last week but didn't really introduce myself here...
12:59 kf           welcome gboisson then :)
12:59 kf           it's not that long since it was fixed
12:59 paul_p       (has gboisson introduced himself ? It's our new project manager, like Francois Charbonnier & Stéphane Delaye)
12:59 kf           that can be the reason I think
12:58 paul_p       gboisson: & oleonard & kf : the sandbox gaetan is working on is not uptodate (2 weeks old ?)
12:51 gboisson     thanks!
12:51 gboisson     ok i'll have a look in this direction then
12:50 oleonard     gboisson: The tables are now sorted by class, not ID: $(".sorted").tablesorter
12:49 oleonard     gboisson: That suggests to me that the version you're looking at is different from master
12:48 gboisson     on line 401
12:47 gboisson     $("#DEPtable").tablesorter({wodgets:["zebra"], sortList: [[0, 0]],headers: {1: {sorter: flase}}}).tablesorterPager is not a function
12:46 oleonard     What's the JS error?
12:46 gboisson     and tabs are non functionnal
12:45 gboisson     all the tables show up
12:45 gboisson     for instance if i have two ccodes books and cds, instead of having one table for books showing up, and the other accessible through tabs
12:43 gboisson     i have the problem in both english and french
12:43 kf           gboisson: are you looking at the english templates?
12:42 * oleonard   doesn't have any problem with the version in master
12:40 gboisson     hmm i saw this one but my problem is different
12:40 oleonard     It has been pushed, commit 377f174b0674b009945036c3ac3724378e12e9c5
12:39 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6842 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Branch transfer limits broken
12:39 oleonard     Bug 6842
12:39 kf           I had tested oleonard's patch
12:39 gboisson     oleonard: where can i check this fix ?
12:39 kf           I think it has been pushed, but not sure
12:39 gboisson     i see, that could be the reason
12:38 oleonard     gboisson: I submitted a fix for something on that page recently, I wonder if you have it
12:38 gboisson     and generate a javascript error when clicked
12:38 gboisson     tabs are not functionnal
12:37 gboisson     yes
12:37 gboisson     i would like to know if anyone else has experienced that problem before
12:37 oleonard     branch_transfer_limits.pl ?
12:37 gboisson     but not in the demos on the koha community portal
12:37 gboisson     i've reproduced the bug in a couple instances here
12:36 gboisson     i'm having a problem on koha 3.6, with tabs in Administration  Set Library Checkin and Transfer Policy
12:36 gboisson     hi all
12:11 * kf         is katrin
12:11 kf           hehe
12:11 * kf         crosses fingers
12:11 oakivil      you never know...
12:11 oakivil      or galls
12:11 kf           :)
12:11 oakivil      well thanks a lot guys again
12:11 oakivil      thats my plan
12:11 kf           hope that works without more work
12:11 kf           and link it to your auth framework, the $a field I think
12:11 kf           you have to go into marc bibiographic frameworks
12:10 kf           no
12:10 jcamins      oakivil: if you just add the text in the 653, your authorities won't actually be linked.
12:10 oakivil      and how to define the linking. ATM the authorities are embedded to the marcdata
12:09 oakivil      but now I also know how to import authorities together with the biblios
12:09 kf           cataloging from scratch should be ok
12:09 kf           the other things we talked about are migration problems mostly
12:09 kf           the auth plugin ill take care
12:09 oakivil      great
12:09 kf           if you do it all by hand it will work too
12:09 oakivil      do i still need to define the authorities 001 field?
12:08 oakivil      Then I modify existing biblios by adding 653-fields to them.
12:08 oakivil      but if i just add these authorities, then modify by hand the Books marc framework to use my custom authority list for field 653$a.
12:07 jcamins      kf's plan is good. :)
12:06 kf           if that matches the 001 and auth_header pk thing it will link
12:06 kf           yep
12:06 oakivil      you mean in the biblios 6xx $9?
12:05 kf           if you can't provide those fields, there is a script, but as jcamins says there are some problems wtih it
12:05 kf           that it needs
12:05 kf           because all information is there
12:05 kf           without running any scripts
12:05 kf           then it will establish the link
12:05 kf           oakivil: have ids for your authorities in 001 in authority, and the matching number in 6xx $9
12:04 kf           oakivil: one working way is
12:04 oakivil      hmm
12:04 jcamins      By all means, try running link_authority_records_to_bibs.pl (or whatever the script is), but don't expect it to work terribly well.
12:04 kf           but if you give it the right data to begin with, it works
12:03 kf           no
12:03 jcamins      It's not really possible, sorry.
12:03 kf           but he might explode or something
12:03 oakivil      I need to dig into the xml parsing module anyway because the xml variant uses different names for authorities frameworks
12:03 kf           you should ask jared about linking authorities to bibs...
12:03 kf           and the script will not do that
12:03 kf           that it will only do if the pk of your auth-header table and $9 in the records match
12:03 oakivil      yeah
12:03 kf           between your records
12:03 kf           you only have to know it willo not establish the links
12:02 kf           but basically it should work like you want it to work
12:02 kf           i think I would use a 69x
12:02 kf           that should work I think
12:02 oakivil      what is the most proper field etc. I am just lookign  for a quick hack anyway :D demo is on friday
12:02 oakivil      and forget about any marc hassle
12:02 kf           and you can link them together
12:02 oakivil      so what if I just added a clause to the import script to put these field 653's to the custom Authorities framework
12:02 kf           totally separate from bibliographic records
12:01 kf           the import script puts the authorities into a table in your database
12:01 wahanui      kf: I forgot actually
12:01 kf           forget actually
12:01 wahanui      actually is relevant to perl, that's a definite thing going for it, too.
12:01 kf           actually
12:01 kf           hm not the matching
12:01 jcamins      Hrm. I can't find the code for the plugin.
12:01 oakivil      yes the import script does the matching
12:01 kf           so happy it works now
12:01 kf           nengard: :) I understand you, that's why I made one of my coworkers sit down with me last week
12:00 nengard      thanks kf, testing is good, but i do want to get email working so I'll wait for a few more people to wake up over here and ask again :)
12:00 kf           the main heading from 1xx in the authority fiel will be copied to 6xx in the bibliographic file
12:00 kf           oakivil: different frameworks :)
12:00 jcamins      kf: that's a good question!
12:00 kf           the question is - does koha copy $2 over using the plugin?
12:00 jcamins      oakivil: the last two digits should be the same.
12:00 oakivil      but in koha i should have the authorities fields the same as in bibliographics?
12:00 kf           to specify the source
12:00 kf           yep
11:59 kf           jcamins_away: perhaps you are right
11:59 jcamins_away ^^ use 650$2
11:59 huginn       jcamins_away: Source of heading or term Code from: MARC Code Lists for Relators, Sources, Description Conventions
11:59 jcamins_away @marc 650 2
11:59 kf           oakivil: that's right
11:59 kf           you will want to use another field
11:59 oakivil      Marc21 fields re different when i look at the authorities documentation than in the bibliographic documentation
11:59 kf           if you want to keep them searate
11:59 jcamins_away kf: that's a good thing.
11:59 kf           jcamins_away: the problem is, he has authorities for those
11:59 kf           or that
11:59 jcamins_away I would use 650.
11:59 kf           you can use the 653 - but I would leave that open for real uncontrolled subjects
11:58 kf           if you want to link to authorieis
11:58 kf           a 69x field would be better perhaps
11:58 oakivil      unsorted by anything
11:58 oakivil      I have a 29000 word large vocabulary
11:58 kf           hm
11:58 oakivil      every kind of subjects
11:57 kf           what kind of subjects do you want to put in there?
11:57 kf           than 653
11:57 kf           oakivil: I would use another 6xx field
11:57 oakivil      and because I couldnt find a generic enough field from 1xx
11:57 kf           nengard: I can't tell you how :( but my coworker fixed it for me - can offer to try testing this tonight
11:57 oakivil      well because it seems like the easiest step to display Koha authorities functionality
11:56 kf           that means no authority linking intended
11:56 kf           653 is uncontrolled
11:56 kf           but why 653 and using authlrities?
11:56 nengard      is anyone here able to tell me how to get email working on my VM? I'd like to test owen's patron update email, but my system doesn't send email cause i never set it up
11:56 kf           I know
11:56 oakivil      like general descriptive words
11:56 kf           yep
11:56 oakivil      well I want to add Subject words to field 653
11:55 kf           the script finds out which framework to use by looking at the main heading in 1xx
11:55 kf           line 118ff
11:55 kf           http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=misc/migration_tools/bulkauthimport.pl;h=2709db91c9d7e851ea306814aaf646feb14d427d;hb=HEAD
11:55 kf           see here:
11:55 kf           to make it work
11:55 kf           I thought that adding a line to abulkauthimport for the new 1xx field should be enough
11:54 kf           when i had looked at custom auth frameworks
11:54 kf           the options both scripts provide are different
11:54 kf           bulkmarcimport with -a and bulkauthimport
11:54 kf           I think there are 2 scripts you can use to import authorities
11:54 kf           at the moment
11:54 kf           ok
11:53 oakivil      ;)
11:53 wahanui      kf: I forgot something like that
11:53 kf           forget something like that
11:53 wahanui      i heard something like that was sticking in nengard's mind
11:53 kf           or something like that
11:53 kf           I think the table is auth_header
11:53 oakivil      where should the authorities go in the database?
11:52 oakivil      nope
11:52 oakivil      already took a peek at it and thats why I ask. To not use false workflows
11:52 kf           have you tried bulkmarcimport with -a switch?
11:52 oakivil      I think I can figure it out
11:52 kf           hm I wonder
11:52 oakivil      ok
11:52 kf           thre is a line you will want to add to the import program
11:52 oakivil      yes
11:52 kf           oakivil: still around?
11:47 oakivil      Still unsure where the bulkauthimport.pl will put my authorities with only a leader field and field 653$a defined.
11:46 oakivil      I fixed the problem by adding a subfield I forgot to add
11:41 oakivil      -error even if I define indicators as ind1="" ind2="" to Marc21XML file, even with indicator values as 1, it gives the very same error.
11:41 oakivil      Field 653 must have indicators (use ' ' for empty indicators) at /usr/share/perl5/MARC/File/SAX.pm line 92
11:41 oakivil      Hello #Koha. It looks like I need to modify the bulkauthimport.pl to include my custom Authorities type INDEX_TERM, copying auth field 653. I am getting a
11:40 sophie_m     kf : the followup fixes a problem that cannot occur with -t parameter
11:23 magnuse      see ya later #koha
11:18 kf           adrien_s: was Cordon Bleu - but I doubt it was really french cuisine
11:18 hdl          Amit_Gupta: ?
11:01 kf           back
10:36 adrien_s     "Today's fish is trout à la creme !" ... Bon appetit !
10:35 Amit_Gupta   hdl around?
10:35 Amit_Gupta   heya kf
10:31 kf           I am leaving for lunch - will be back a little later
10:30 kf           in that case we could ask paul to qa on the first and the second can go in a little later
10:30 kf           does teh problem exist without the follow up too?
10:30 kf           I think it's ok, I will test it as soon as I can
10:29 sophie_m     Should this followup be part of another bug then ?
10:29 kf           I will try it
10:29 kf           I misunderstood the documentation
10:29 kf           I didn't know it would still use the triggers without -t
10:28 sophie_m     Admin>Tools>Overdue notice/status triggers
10:27 kf           I will test it
10:27 kf           hm I think I understand now
10:23 kf           how to specify the 10, 20 and 30 days limits?
10:23 kf           can you give me an example to use without -t on the bug?
10:23 kf           ok
10:22 sophie_m     arghh, this is when -t parameter is not used
10:21 kf           are you using the overdues script with -t?
10:20 kf           perhaps I am using the overdues differently?
10:20 kf           in this case
10:20 kf           because I think no notice shoul be generated at all
10:20 sophie_m     with the patch, only one letter is generated, listing both documents
10:20 kf           I don't understand that I think
10:20 kf           hm
10:19 sophie_m     without the followup, two level1 letters where générated 1 for the first document and one for the second
10:19 sophie_m     if a borrower has 2 books with overdue , one with 11 days and one with 15 for example
10:17 sophie_m     you trigger level 1 after 10 days, leverl 2 after 20 and level 3 after 30
10:17 sophie_m     kf : the test case if :
09:50 kf           it's a great improvement
09:49 kf           I would really like to see this go into 3.6
09:49 kf           I was not able to find a test case for your follow-up
09:49 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6292 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , Overdue notices have a bug when multiple overdues exist
09:49 kf           paul_p said to ask you about bug 6292
09:49 wahanui      kf is, like, cait or really, really sweet. or <reply>she gives me memory loss
09:49 sophie_m     kf ?
09:48 wahanui      kf: I forgot sophie_m
09:48 kf           wahanui: forget sophie_m
09:48 kf           forget sophie_m wahanui
09:48 wahanui      sophie_m is around, the best would be to ask here... Isn't the comment 13 enough ? (the test plan could be "have different overdues that would trigger different level of notice. Before the patch you get more than one letter, after the patch you just get a letter of the longest odue level, with all odues listed"
09:48 kf           sophie_m?
09:25 hdl          Amit_Gupta:  ?
09:25 kf           and triggering the same level with different due_dates is mathematically not possible - not as long as the overdues don't care about holidays
09:24 kf           I am not sure which case the follow-up covers that didn't came up by testing
09:24 kf           paul_p: I tested it for that- for me it worked without the follow-up
09:24 rangi        it says the same level of notice, not a different one
09:23 rangi        due_date triggering the same level
09:23 rangi        Several letters where generated if a borrower had overdues with different
09:23 rangi        hmm but thats not what comment 13 says
09:22 paul_p       kf: sophie_m is around, the best would be to ask here... Isn't the comment 13 enough ? (the test plan could be "have different overdues that would trigger different level of notice. Before the patch you get more than one letter, after the patch you just get a letter of the longest odue level, with all odues listed"
09:08 Amit_Gupta   hdl around?
09:08 Amit_Gupta   hdl there
09:06 kf           could you perhaps take a look?
09:06 kf           and not sure what it's supposed to fix
09:06 kf           I sigend off on 6292 but there is a follow up from sophie I have no test plan for
09:06 paul_p       kf: yep
09:06 kf           paul_p: have a second?
09:05 huginn       kf: The operation succeeded.
09:05 kf           @later tell wizzyrea: the layout on the paid for support page for Busara Core Solutions is a bit broken, can you take a look? :)
09:04 * paul_p     switches to "QAing bugzilla patches" mode...
08:54 Oak          i'll stop now
08:54 Oak          :)
08:54 Oak          Thank you = Shookriya
08:52 Oak          thirsty = pyasaa
08:52 Oak          thirst = pyaas
08:51 Oak          water = pani
08:51 mtj          hi adrien :)
08:50 Oak          staff in hotel will understand English I think :)
08:48 adrien_s     I guess it's impossible to pronounce correctly for us, so you may die before getting a glass of water
08:48 adrien_s     I'm hungry = mujhe bhook lagi hai
08:48 adrien_s     I'm thirsty = mujhe pyaas lagi hai
08:48 adrien_s     First and last hindi lesson :
08:46 adrien_s     we talked a little bit about Germany =)
08:45 paul_p       (did adrien_s introduce himself here ? He's the new support guy at BibLibre)
08:45 paul_p       adrien_s: you want to give us some lessons ?
08:44 adrien_s     will you guys learn a few hindi words ? ;P
08:43 mtj          ... and then we get stress-tested too
08:43 mtj          looks like their wifi may get a little 'stress-testing'... :p
08:43 paul_p       (hi mtj)
08:42 paul_p       KohaCon attendies will fill vihang-inn... (only 32 rooms)
08:42 mtj          paul_p:  we are staying in vihang-inn too
08:41 mtj          hiya pholks
08:41 rangi        http://www.espncricinfo.com/rankings/content/page/211271.html
08:41 rangi        both are hard to beat in cricket
08:40 rangi        australia are easier for nz to beat in rugby, than sa are
08:40 rangi        in cricket
08:40 rangi        no they are actually playing well
08:40 adrien_s     India won the last commonwealth games if I remember well, but I didn't notice how England got out of this
08:39 adrien_s     England is easy to beat in cricket games ?! they must be sad about it :)
08:37 rangi        yep, cos they are easier to beat :)
08:37 paul_p       too late, you said "i'm glad australia won". I heard it! ;-)
08:37 rangi        in cricket, i will choose sa, and england
08:36 rangi        in rugby
08:36 rangi        i will choose australia
08:36 rangi        or australia and england
08:36 rangi        well out of australia and south africa
08:36 rangi        hehe
08:36 paul_p       I want to register "i'm glad Australia won" !!!!
08:36 paul_p       how to register a quote ?
08:35 rangi        they only have 14 defenders :)
08:35 rangi        quade cooper cant tackle
08:35 rangi        easier to beat them than south africa
08:35 rangi        im glad they won
08:35 paul_p       yep. And you will have to get past your aussies friends
08:35 rangi        :)
08:34 rangi        gotta get past wales first
08:34 rangi        hehe
08:34 paul_p       rangi: OK, we let you the black shirt, you let us the cup. Sounds a reasonable deal ? :D
08:33 rangi        paul_p: http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/5771983/France-to-cede-final-jersey-rights-to-All-Blacks
08:17 kf           hi claire
08:16 clrh         hello
07:21 adrien_s     guten morgen :D
07:21 kf           hi adrien_s :)
07:21 rangi        hi adrien_s
07:20 kf           hi Amit_Gupta ;)
07:18 hdl          hi all
07:18 Amit_Gupta   heya kf ;)
07:16 asaurat1     hi
07:15 kf           hi hdl
07:15 kf           hi #koha
07:10 rangi        hi hdl and francharb
07:09 francharb    hello all
07:07 Amit_Gupta   hi hdl
06:55 cait         will be back
06:55 cait         grrr
06:55 cait         permission_system--
06:53 cait         eythian: I think it did once, there is code like that, only it does not work
06:53 julian_m     hello!
06:52 * eythian    mosies along
06:51 Oak          :) hi
06:51 Amit_Gupta   hi Oak
06:50 Oak          i hv nt Amit_Gupta
06:49 Amit_Gupta   any body try koha with solr
06:49 rangi        yeah
06:49 eythian      It's silly for every bit of code to have to check
06:48 eythian      I think haspermissions should understand superlibrarians.
06:48 eythian      Unless bit 1 isn't superlib, in which case the whole & 1 thing is wrong anyway
06:48 eythian      I think
06:48 rangi        warn it
06:48 eythian      but, if superlib is set, it should always be odd.
06:48 rangi        yep its easy to test
06:48 * eythian    isn't testing this right now, so take it with a grain of salt
06:47 rangi        hmm
06:47 eythian      noo, shouldn't be
06:47 rangi        which i think is caused if you have more than superlibrarian set
06:47 eythian      no cape.
06:47 eythian      yeah, so not a superlibrarian
06:47 eythian      oh right
06:47 rangi        261886
06:47 rangi        yeah it was even
06:47 eythian      but, I'd start by printing out the flags.
06:46 alex_a       hello
06:46 rangi        in summary, it tests for odd number
06:46 rangi        :)
06:46 eythian      that explanation was a little too sbstract perhaps
06:46 eythian      which is what & 1 does, it just gives you bit number 1, and if its set it's true
06:45 eythian      which means that the superlibrarian bit is set
06:45 eythian      you're not testing if it's one, you testing if it's an odd number.
06:44 cait         um 1
06:44 cait         the sysprefs overwrite it, because it's never 0
06:44 cait         it's really only the superlibrarian part that's broken
06:44 cait         but the other parts work
06:44 cait         eythian: I can do that
06:43 eythian      which is helpful :)
06:43 eythian      well, if you split it into parts, then you debug each part of it separately.
06:43 cait         eythian: and I know it's ugly - but only saying it's ugly is not helpful :)
06:42 cait         eythian: thx for looking at it :)
06:39 magnuse      bonjour reiveune and cait et al
06:38 cait         hi reiveune and magnuse
06:38 reiveune     hi Oak, cait, magnuse, everybody
06:37 magnuse      kia ora #koha
06:36 cait         :P
06:36 eythian      cait: feel free to write my kohacon talk ;)
06:36 magnuse      Oak
06:36 cait         eythian: feel free to improve it
06:36 eythian      I'd be inclined to split that if into multiple parts.
06:36 eythian      yeah, it's a good place to start
06:35 rangi        before the if
06:35 rangi        id do a warn $userenv->{'flags'};
06:35 cait         I know
06:35 eythian      a 5-line if condition is never going to be debuggable.
06:34 Oak          hello reiveune
06:34 eythian      that's some terrible code really
06:34 Oak          magnuse
06:33 cait         http://paste.koha-community.org/74
06:33 eythian      cait: perhaps throw 'warn's in where you expect the code to go, and see where it's going and what values it has
06:32 reiveune     hello
06:32 cait         only the user's
06:32 cait         but still not all baskets show up
06:32 cait         and the user has superlibrarian rights
06:32 cait         I have set the sys pref to 'only baskets created by this user'
06:32 cait         but it doesn't :(
06:31 eythian      I would expect & 1 to return true if the flag indicates the person is a superlibrarian
06:30 cait         and the second patch
06:30 cait         running around, getting ready for work
06:30 cait         sorry
06:30 cait         bookseller.pl...
06:30 cait         oh yes
06:27 ropuch       Any success?
06:27 eythian      cait: there are two patches on that bug, and neither touches basket.pl
06:27 cait         yep
06:27 ropuch       cait: still strugling with superlibrarian check?
06:27 cait         defensively?
06:26 cait         patch attached to bug
06:26 cait         eythian: basket.pl
06:26 cait         the '' are not there, sorry
06:26 cait         ah
06:24 eythian      so, if (($userenv->{'flags'} & 1) ||
06:23 eythian      cait: and I'd bracket defensively there
06:23 eythian      cait: also, no need for '' around the 1 (although it shouldn't hurt, but it might)
06:23 Amit_Gupta   heya ropuch
06:22 ropuch       Morning #koha
06:21 Amit_Gupta   ??
06:21 Amit_Gupta   hdl around
06:21 eythian      what line number/file?
06:20 cait         if ($userenv->{'flags'} & '1' ||
06:20 cait         I changed the superlibrarian line ot
06:20 cait           6390
06:20 eythian      what's the bug number?
06:19 cait         but it's still not showing me all baskets when I am a superlibraian
06:19 cait         got past the perl error
06:19 cait         because it's still not working
06:19 cait         you still can help
06:19 cait         eythian:
06:17 eythian      happy to help.
06:14 cait         never mind
06:14 cait         ok, I see it
06:12 cait         $loggedinuser->{'flags'} & 1
06:11 cait         it doesn't like the change ian suggests
06:11 cait         Can't use string ("1") as a HASH ref while "strict refs" in use at /home/katrin/kohaclone/acqui/booksellers.pl line 118.
06:11 cait         hmpf
06:07 laurence     hi Amit_Gupta
06:07 Amit_Gupta   heya laurence
05:52 Oak          :^)
05:52 cait         lol
05:52 Oak          hm, detective cait and detective eythian working on a case. cool :)
05:51 eythian      I hate our internal DNS management tool, I very nearly deleted an entire company domain when I intended to just delete a subdomain.
05:50 cait         perhaps
05:50 cait         hm
05:50 eythian      My assumption is that they copy-pasted content from a PDF, which does that sort of thing.
05:50 eythian      it is a lot weird.
05:48 cait         that sounds a bit weird
05:48 cait         ok?
05:44 eythian      but ones you use typesetting, like making 'fi' one character.
05:43 eythian      they weren't normal ligatures like � either
05:43 eythian      which is super-crazy.
05:43 eythian      the data had ligatures in it, defined by control characters.
05:42 eythian      yep
05:42 cait         sounds pretty normal
05:42 eythian      (most of which was dealing with crazy character set issues.)
05:42 cait         :)
05:42 eythian      sweet, first draft of a soon-to-be-Koha-library migration from Liberty completed in about 3 days.
05:39 huginn       New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6199] Allow bulkmarcimport to blank duplicate barcodes rather than skipping items <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6199> / [Bug 7008] Sometimes zebra needs a tmp directory that it doesn't create itself <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7008>
05:36 eythian      someone had added stuff that modified the record (stripping the item details) when it needed them later when it attempted to readd them.
05:35 cait         cool :)
05:35 eythian      yeah
05:34 cait         but you found the problem?
05:33 eythian      it was working for me the whole time, but I think maybe there'd been a change somewhere that upset it, and you were on a newer version (or something like that.)
05:32 cait         glad you finally believed me :P
05:32 eythian      cait: yep
05:27 cait         eythian: 6199?
05:27 rangi        hmm
05:17 Oak          oh well
05:17 wizzyrea     mhm
05:17 cait         :)
05:17 wizzyrea     resluts.
05:17 wizzyrea     nope
05:16 wahanui      I LIKE BAO or all about the resluts
05:16 cait         wizzyrea?
05:16 cait         I think it was not for me
05:16 Oak          next time wizzyrea readies the slapping trout, get your helmet!
05:16 Oak          now you know
05:16 Oak          :)
05:15 cait         lol
05:15 Oak          cait, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhJQp-q1Y1s
05:14 cait         hi Amit_Gupta
05:14 Amit_Gupta   heya cait
05:13 cait         and hi rangi
05:12 cait         stupid glitch
05:12 cait         lol
05:12 wizzyrea     stupid glitch.
05:12 wizzyrea     yes and no - it's by choice
05:12 rangi        late night wizzyrea ?
05:12 Oak          oh hello rangi
05:12 * wizzyrea   waves
05:12 rangi        and oak
05:12 rangi        hi cait and wizzyrea
05:11 wizzyrea     never mind
05:10 cait         ?
05:10 * wizzyrea   readies the slapping trout
05:10 cait         thought so hehe
05:10 eythian      nope :D
05:09 cait         I can never make you happy, can I?
05:09 cait         lol
05:09 eythian      cait: you're up late.
05:08 Oak          kia ora #koha
05:08 cait         hi Oak
05:08 Oak          Guten Tag cait
05:08 cait         morning #koha
04:32 eythian      hello
04:31 Amit_Gupta   heya eythian
04:31 Amit_Gupta   hmm
04:17 eythian      so, a bit over 2 weeks.
04:17 eythian      I sent mine on the 26th, they put it in the post today.
04:16 jransom      ethian: my visa took weeks to get
04:15 jransom      and leave on the 12th
04:15 jransom      I get there on the 22nd October
04:15 jransom      I got my travel documents today
03:59 eythian      Apparently my visa will be arriving tomorrow.
03:58 Amit_Gupta   on which date r u coming to india?
03:58 Amit_Gupta   heya jransom
03:47 jransom      heya Amit
03:27 rangi        hi Amit_Gupta
03:27 Amit_Gupta   heya chris gm
03:27 Amit_Gupta   heya all
01:30 libsysguy1   i keep making that typo when i am writing my OOPerl stuff
01:29 rangi        :)
01:29 libsysguy1   i knew it!!
01:29 rangi        that stuck
01:29 rangi        its a typo of self
01:29 libsysguy1   so who knows if slef is a play on words for $self
01:29 wahanui      slef was last seen on #koha 1 days, 6 hours, 55 minutes and 53 seconds ago, saying: biab [Mon Oct 10 18:32:02 2011]
01:29 libsysguy1   seen slef
01:28 libsysguy1   ok thanks rangi++
01:27 rangi        yes
01:25 libsysguy1   so if I have two overdue books there would be two tuples?
01:24 libsysguy1   the breakdown of charges is in that table right?
01:24 libsysguy1   cursed schema page :p
01:24 rangi        http://schema.koha-community.org/tables/accountlines.html
01:24 libsysguy1   well it is less about the structure
01:24 jcamins      It's evil.
01:23 rangi        theres a website for that
01:23 libsysguy1   anybody around that can maybe give me a brief rundown of the accountlines table?