Time  Nick         Message
22:15 eythian      huh, surprising.
22:14 jcamins      New York/London.
22:14 eythian      where is this, btw. I didn't think liberty had much presence outside NZ/AU
22:14 eythian      we can help :D
22:14 eythian      you could migrate them to koha
22:13 eythian      heh
22:13 jcamins      I mean, good for Koha, not so good for my chances of not going crazy if I have to work with Liberty.
22:13 eythian      all librarians I've talked to have been really happy with the change.
22:13 jcamins      That's unfortunate.
22:13 jcamins      Hm.
22:12 eythian      In fact, I'm doing such a migration now.
22:11 rangi        yeah, we should send them a thank you card
22:11 eythian      I've spent a lot of time moving people off of liberty and onto koha.
22:11 rangi        cya cait
22:11 cait         hi eythian, bye eythian :)
22:11 eythian      bye cait
22:11 eythian      hi cait
22:11 jcamins      I had a feeling.
22:11 cait         good night all :)
22:11 eythian      jcamins: I've never used it, but from what I've heard, terribly
22:11 jcamins      How miserable would it make me to work with it?
22:10 eythian      yeah
22:09 jcamins      Is Liberty an ILS?
22:02 cait         :)
22:02 rangi        hehe
22:00 jransom      hehe - only coz there tend to be few men around and e can let rip
22:00 rangi        you guys are CRAZY!
22:00 rangi        ive been to librarian parties
22:00 rangi        pshaw
21:58 jransom      well hopefully  not spectacular (m leaving the bikini at home) but it should be very cool. We are staying in old Goa well away from party central (because we are ladies of a certain age after all)
21:53 wizzyrea     jransom: spectacular
21:39 huginn       jransom: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
21:39 jransom      @wizzyrea someone told brooke to watch out for drunk Europeans on the beach in Goa - she replied what! we'll BE the drunk Europeans ...
21:37 talljoy      apparently it is confusing....:-)  i still don't know for sure.
21:36 cait         I got confused
21:36 cait         ok
21:36 talljoy      there is no score in matchchecks
21:36 cait         so you rate how important a single match check in a matching rule is
21:36 talljoy      on match points they do.  But do the matchchecks override points with a final yes/no?
21:36 jcamins      Oh, yes, good point!
21:36 cait         I think th scores make a difference too?
21:35 jcamins      You're welcome.
21:35 jcamins      Probably wise.
21:35 talljoy      thanks jcamins
21:35 talljoy      i'll go with that then.  may try testing a few items to be sure.
21:35 jcamins      Right.
21:34 talljoy      so following that logic...if matchpoint offer success on matching, but a match check fails....then it is not considered a match.
21:34 jcamins      That seems like a good explanation.
21:33 jcamins      talljoy: I could explain how they apply, but I'm not sure I could explain how to use them in advance.
21:33 talljoy      it seems that match points offer point values on matching per tag/subfield.  Match checks appear to allow matching on any fields (cross fields even 245 to 246) and are a strict yes/no.  Essentially an override function.
21:32 talljoy      i have a feeling i'm about to get asked....
21:32 talljoy      i'm just trying to sort out how they work
21:29 wizzyrea     get yer glowsticke!
21:29 * wizzyrea   imagines jransom raving on the beach in Goa
21:29 wahanui      rumour has it the goal is to be more useful, not less
21:29 jcamins      talljoy: what's the goal?
21:29 rangi        no idea im afraid talljoy
21:28 talljoy      help file has  ???
21:28 talljoy      i'm looking for help on distinguishing how match points work differently than match checks
21:27 rangi        for canada
21:27 rangi        i leave on sunday
21:27 rangi        oh cool
21:23 jransom      I leave NZ on the 22nd and spending a wek in Goa before KohaCon
21:22 magnuse      gotta catch some sleep - see ya folks!
21:20 rangi        http://danielmiessler.com/study/lsof/
21:20 rangi        handy
21:11 rangi        but not actual dates yet
21:11 rangi        its sounding like june
21:10 magnuse      yup
21:10 cait         I think they have to find a venue now and get bids
21:10 liw          wiki says not yet, I'll hang out on the channel to learn about it
21:10 cait         no
21:09 liw          is the date decided, then?
21:08 rangi        hehe
21:08 liw          I should perhaps not say this in a room full of librarians, but it might be possibly a good idea for me to learn to read some day
21:08 rangi        october 1
21:08 liw          I thought the vote would end November 1
21:08 cait         :)
21:08 rangi        yep, it won the vote
21:08 liw          nice
21:08 liw          ah
21:07 cait         edinburgh is for sure now
21:07 rangi        oh its been decided
21:07 liw          but afaik this is all premature planning, since the location hasn't been changed yet (I can't afford to go to Reno for KohaCon, alas)
21:06 * magnuse    hopes slef is taking notes
21:06 rangi        och aye
21:06 wizzyrea     ohhh
21:06 magnuse      wizzyrea: this is planning for next year, methinks?
21:06 cait         wizzyrea: we are actually planning for next year already
21:05 liw          if he wants to, of course
21:05 wizzyrea     ok now i'm *really* sad I'm going to mis kohacon this year
21:05 magnuse      yay
21:04 liw          then eythian can give a talk on what the current packages actually do for you, and what they can do but you need to know about to get them to do that
21:04 magnuse      yes please!
21:03 rangi        it was very good
21:03 liw          rangi and eythian have been subjected to that training, iirc
21:03 magnuse      +1
21:03 rangi        part of the hackfest/dev conference
21:03 rangi        ohh thats a good idea liw
21:03 liw          i.e., something where participants make packages, instead of hearing me talk about how to make packages
21:02 cait         I only say germs
21:02 liw          I'd rather do 2 or 4 hours training session
21:02 cait         so I get a chance to tease robin
21:02 cait         you can do the presentation together
21:01 liw          nah, keep praising eythian, he's the one doing all the work
21:01 rangi        and he can give a presentation on packaging things :)
21:01 magnuse      then we can all give liw the praise he deserves for the work on the packages!
21:00 magnuse      cool!
20:59 rangi        w00t
20:58 * liw        might show up in Edinburgh for KohaCon, given that he'll be living nearby
20:57 magnuse      jransom: so when are you leaving for india?
20:57 magnuse      a little bit
20:56 jransom      wahanui is a bit silly sometimes
20:56 magnuse      hehe
20:56 jransom      lol
20:56 cait         those were my friends, not yours
20:56 wahanui      cait: I forgot edinburgh
20:56 cait         forget edinburgh
20:56 cait         oh wahanui
20:55 cait         hehe
20:55 cait         and if I have to swim there
20:55 wahanui      edinburgh is cool - I have been there once when visiting friends in scotland :)
20:55 cait         edinburgh!
20:55 cait         :)
20:55 magnuse      but i will definitely be in edinburgh! and i'll try and bring as many cool norwegian library people as i can!
20:54 jransom      I'm sorry to hear that to.
20:54 magnuse      i'm not going to india either, sadly
20:50 jransom      hehe - can't do everything babe - and you got to NZ just the year prior so itsot really a surprise
20:50 cait         hope all going will tweet and blog and chat
20:50 cait         sorry for not coming to India
20:50 jransom      :)
20:49 cait         we will cross fingers too
20:47 jransom      bit sad about that .... have to cross fingers SCotland
20:46 rangi        im pretty sure thats right
20:46 jransom      thanks
20:46 rangi        :)
20:45 jransom      oh i kne that!
20:45 rangi        katrin :)
20:45 jransom      so just confirming: Magnus and Caitlin: neither coming to kohacon11?
20:42 jransom      hiya
20:41 cait         hi jransom :)
20:40 magnuse      kia ora jransom
20:33 magnuse      guten abend cait
20:33 cait         hi magnuse
20:28 rangi        cya oleonard
20:28 * oleonard   will return... some day.
20:28 magnuse      no pizza today
20:28 magnuse      :-)
20:28 wahanui      i guess magnuse is afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza.
20:28 rangi        heya magnuse
20:28 magnuse      kia ora #koha
20:07 * cait       puts it on her gigantic list
20:07 cait         oleonard++
20:07 rangi        hehe
20:07 oleonard     Look ma, no template changes!
20:07 Oak          \o
20:06 Oak          okie, 1am here. me go now. to sleep.
20:06 ropuch       Sleeping more than 7,5 hours (max) makes me dizzy and sleepy again
20:06 huginn       New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7006] highlight patron changes in email <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7006>
20:06 rangi        sup JesseM_
20:05 cait         conspiracy!
20:04 jcamins      :)
20:04 Oak          you hear cait what jcamins said? hmm?
20:04 jcamins      Oak: I know you know. I was just commenting publicly. ;)
20:04 Oak          i know jcamins :)
20:04 huginn       Oak: The operation succeeded.
20:04 Oak          @later tell Brooke very good movie this: The Private Lives of Pippa Lee http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1134629/
20:03 jcamins      And leaves one feeling energized when s/he wakes up in the morning. :)
20:03 jcamins      Oak: I heard that 8 hours of sleep a night is very healthy. :)
20:03 * cait       hides
20:03 Oak          :)
20:02 Oak          how about trying 8 hour sleep for once
20:02 cait         it's not that late
20:02 cait         not another
20:02 cait         oh
20:02 Oak          kia ora #koha
20:02 Oak          go to bed cait
19:55 cait         thought I had a double appearance right now :)
19:55 cait         ah
19:55 rangi        hehe
19:55 cait         that#s because my windows at work refuses to shut down lately...
19:55 cait         oh right
19:52 wizzyrea     there we have it
19:52 wahanui      it has been said that ropuch is kijanka
19:52 wizzyrea     ropuch?
19:52 ropuch       ;>
19:52 wizzyrea     now wahanui will know ;)
19:52 wizzyrea     ropuch is kijanka
19:51 wizzyrea     kijanka is ropuch
19:51 wizzyrea     oh we have a kf and a cait thing
19:51 ropuch       *changed
19:51 ropuch       So I chnaged one nick to kijanka ;>
19:51 ropuch       I was swicthing between 2 screens and was confused with ropuch_ and ropuch
19:50 ropuch       ;>
19:50 cait         you are rejuvenating?
19:50 cait         oh
19:50 ropuch       And ropuch means toad
19:50 ropuch       kijanka means tadpole
19:49 cait         kijanka: why the changed nick? :)
19:49 cait         oleonard: +1
19:48 kijanka      So, after sign off I should change bug status next?
19:48 oleonard     Include a link to the staff client edit screen in the update email if staffClientBaseURL system pref is populated?
19:48 rangi        :)
19:48 kijanka      heheh
19:48 * rangi      will fix that
19:47 * jcamins    is definitely not receiving spam from his Koha commits.
19:47 cait         good spam filter I guess
19:47 rangi        we all are
19:46 cait         hm haven't notices more spam really on my addresses
19:46 rangi        yup :)
19:46 kijanka      ;>
19:46 kijanka      So I'm doomed!
19:46 rangi        it's already too late
19:46 rangi        im not sure that being harvested is such an issue now, they sell lists, if its been found once
19:46 kijanka      rangi: yea, I've just thought the same ;>
19:46 oleonard     kijanka: Or from Bugzilla
19:45 kijanka      Then be it ;>
19:45 rangi        too
19:45 rangi        they could get it from git.koha-community.org
19:45 kijanka      Huh
19:45 kijanka      I don't feel iike getting more spam, and in that form (Signed-off-by: Piotr Wejman <ropuch@bagno.be>) it's easy to harvest
19:45 rangi        it needs to be there
19:44 rangi        you cant really do either
19:44 rangi        on the bug? or on the patch?
19:43 kijanka      How can I hide my mail in sign off message?
19:43 kijanka      Kk
19:43 rangi        its fine as it is
19:43 kijanka      Should I repeat a bug desc in sign off?
19:43 rangi        is change the patch status to signed off
19:43 rangi        all you need to do now
19:42 rangi        it is indeed
19:42 huginn       04Bug 6989: minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, NEW , Patron categories not properly displayed if not pure ASCII
19:42 kijanka      http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6989 - can you tell me if that's proper sign off?
19:41 cait         oleonard: like it
19:40 oleonard     Come to think of it, why don't we send ONLY the fields which have changed when we send that email?
19:39 rangi        cool
19:38 oleonard     My patch properly hides the renewal controls in cases where they should be blocked (if I got it right that is)
19:38 * rangi      stops rampaging :)
19:38 rangi        great
19:38 rangi        the browser issue was a red herring?
19:38 oleonard     That was a red herring
19:38 rangi        phew
19:38 rangi        the perl should block it too
19:38 oleonard     No
19:38 rangi        we need a kick up the bum
19:38 rangi        cos if so
19:38 rangi        are we banking on js stopping a renewal?
19:37 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6598 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, REOPENED , OPACFineNoRenewals syspreference does not stop user renewing in opac
19:37 rangi        hmm bug 6598
19:37 cait         waiting for approval
19:37 cait         data
19:37 cait         temp borrowers
19:36 * cait       nods
19:36 rangi        i think its all the same feature/bug
19:36 * oleonard   was considering throwing some money at online library card signups
19:36 rangi        sometime
19:36 rangi        then just come into the library with some id
19:36 rangi        let ppl sign up from the opac
19:36 rangi        yes or from home
19:36 rangi        ohh
19:35 cait         on some terminal in the library
19:35 cait         preregistering
19:35 cait         could use the same table as for new users
19:35 huginn       New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7007] 490 not displaying without indicator 1 <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7007>
19:35 cait         sounds great
19:35 cait         yeah
19:33 rangi        yep, that would be fine too
19:32 oleonard     That's why I'd really like to see it get a moderation system, where the changes would get saved to a table and the librarian could approve the changes with a click
19:31 oleonard     My point exactly!
19:30 cait         the mail I mean, got complaints they don't understand what to do and how to read it
19:30 cait         it confuses them :(
19:30 cait         my libraries don#t use it really
19:30 cait         opacuserupdate is mean
19:30 cait         oh
19:29 oleonard     That opac-userupdate bug is just so old! (for certain relevant definitions of old)
19:29 rangi        :)
19:29 cait         so, that's what I meant
19:29 cait         always happy if it gets improved :)
19:28 cait         oleonard: but always happy to improve it :)
19:28 cait         oleonard: they don't complain a lot
19:27 rangi        cool :)
19:27 jcamins      Okay, patched 7007.
19:26 * oleonard   wonders if they're just used to it
19:25 * oleonard   is surprised in general at how much non-translatable text non-English-speakers put up with
19:25 huginn       New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6598] OPACFineNoRenewals syspreference does not stop user renewing in opac <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6598>
19:23 jcamins      Please insert punctuation in the appropriate place.
19:23 jcamins      That's the one I was asking about 5528.
19:22 * rangi      knows them off by heart
19:22 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5528 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, tajoli, ASSIGNED , Analytical records support
19:22 rangi        bug 5528
19:22 rangi        jcamins++
19:22 * jcamins    confirms that his fix works.
19:22 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7007 enhancement, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW , 490 not displaying without indicator 1
19:22 * jcamins    confirms bug 7007.
19:22 jcamins      I just made that number up.
19:22 jcamins      Maybe.
19:22 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5581 enhancement, P5, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , BibLibre authorities improvements for 3.4
19:22 jcamins      Bug 5581
19:22 jcamins      It was an enhancement.
19:21 rangi        just a .tt would be a good start
19:21 rangi        altho that might be overkill
19:21 rangi        we should make that a notice
19:21 oleonard     The email message hard-coded into opac-userupdate.pl
19:21 rangi        ah
19:20 oleonard     The email itself doesn't
19:20 rangi        yeah i cant believe that either
19:20 rangi        wow
19:20 rangi        does it not?
19:20 rangi        i thought it had a template?
19:20 oleonard     ...at the very least the templatize part of it.
19:20 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1153 minor, P2, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , opac-userupdate.pl update to allow moderation, and templatize
19:20 oleonard     I can't believe that not a single non-English-speaking library has asked for a fix for Bug 1153
19:20 rangi        as is 5549
19:20 rangi        5528 is still fair game
19:20 rangi        yes
19:20 rangi        duh
19:19 wahanui      the 773$w field contains the value of the 001 field of the parent record. Also, MARC sucks.
19:19 rangi        oh analytics
19:19 rangi        its still fair game in my book
19:19 rangi        its a bug right?
19:19 jcamins      rangi: so do we think you'll be able to push the analytics, in light of your proposal to push features and have them translated for 3.6.1?
19:15 rangi        back
19:14 jcamins      Cool.
19:14 jcamins      Yes, !=
19:14 jcamins      I don't remember.
19:14 cait         not !=1?
19:13 jcamins      XPath, I mean.
19:13 jcamins      How do I do != in XSLT?
19:12 jcamins      :)
19:12 jcamins      If anyone objects to the report, they can add a comment clarifying.
19:12 jcamins      If I don't fix this immediately, there's no way that I'll get around to it.
19:12 cait         may be too strict now
19:12 cait         before it was not showing them at all sometimes
19:11 cait         the indicators
19:11 cait         I think it was me
19:10 jcamins      No? Excellent!
19:09 jcamins      Anyone object to me copying her original e-mail straight into a bug?
19:08 rangi        my stop brb
19:07 jcamins      Where the "Series:" label was displaying, but no text.
19:07 rangi        ah ok
19:07 jcamins      It was a different problem with the 490.
19:07 jcamins      No, the problem is still in Master.
19:06 rangi        not in 3.4.x only master maybe?
19:06 jcamins      Hm. Oh well.
19:05 nengard      and it is closed
19:05 nengard      that's the 440
19:05 nengard      bug 2704?
19:05 jcamins      Maybe it was closed.
19:05 jcamins      Yeah, the bug about 490s not displaying properly.
19:04 nengard      490 bug?
19:04 jcamins      You filed it...
19:04 jcamins      nengard: any idea where the 490 bug is?
19:03 nengard      i agree with jcamins
19:02 rangi        you'd probably know better feel free to tell him so :)
19:01 rangi        ahh
19:01 jcamins      I mean, it's true that Koha does what he says, but I think it should.
19:01 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5407 normal, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW , Koha displays series entries in the order they're in the MARC
19:01 jcamins      Hmmm... I disagree with Robin's report on bug 5407.
19:00 rangi        but I dont think thats it
19:00 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2704 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED FIXED, 440 Display Issues
19:00 rangi        bug 2704
19:00 rangi        she mentioned one 2704 I think
19:00 rangi        thanks :)
19:00 jcamins      I wish I could search for "490".
18:59 jcamins      There should be a bug for this.
18:59 jcamins      Uhhh... yeah, sure.
18:59 rangi        have u got time to reply to magdalena?
18:59 rangi        yeah I like ur suggestion
18:58 rangi        ahh
18:58 jcamins      490ind1 == '0'
18:56 cait         what is it now?
18:55 rangi        right
18:55 cait         hm
18:55 jcamins      Yeah, I suggest making it 490ind1 != '1'
18:52 rangi        but library data is very rarely compliant
18:52 rangi        technically it is right
18:52 rangi        I wonder if we can have a loose mode or something?
18:50 rangi        thought that might be it
18:49 rangi        ahhh
18:48 jcamins      Yeah, looks like an instance of the the XSLT stylesheet relying on MARC21-compliance.
18:48 cait         I think it is the indicators
18:46 rangi        and indicators
18:45 rangi        the question on the mailing list from magdalena about 490
18:45 * jcamins    doesn't, but what's the question.
18:45 rangi        who all understands indicators?
18:43 oleonard     Hi rangi
18:43 rangi        morning
18:21 cait         Oak even
18:21 cait         seems not only me is in a good mood today :) hi oak
18:21 cait         lol
18:14 Oak          that's hello in cavemen language
18:13 Oak          Ooga booga #koha
16:41 cait         hi rhcl :)
16:40 rhcl         hi cait
16:38 cait         hi #koha
16:31 sekjal       paul_p:  thanks!
16:30 paul_p       sekjal: just submitted a follow-up for 6328
15:54 * wizzyrea   too
15:54 sekjal       I find that highly encouraging
15:54 libsysguy    so that makes me (and the circ staff) very happy :p
15:54 libsysguy    that too...but I haven't had any issues out of hourly in a long time
15:53 sekjal       hourly loans, as well
15:53 libsysguy    i was just frustrated about it so I thought i'd poke you and ask
15:53 libsysguy    right-o
15:53 sekjal       it's on my punchlist for the next few days
15:53 sekjal       yeah, saw that
15:52 libsysguy    did you see that it got failed? I guess it never got pushed?
15:52 sekjal       just the one, though
15:52 sekjal       libsysguy:  yes
15:51 libsysguy    are you still using that for your libraries?
15:51 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5079 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, tdavis, ASSIGNED , Make display of shelving location and call number in XSLT results controlled by sysprefs
15:51 libsysguy    sekjal i meant to ask you about bug 5079
15:49 libsysguy    i giggle a little bit too
15:49 wizzyrea     i laugh every time.
15:48 wahanui      well, libsysguy is Koha's hottest developer or partying with swedes on his deck
15:48 sekjal       hey, libsysguy
15:48 libsysguy    hey sekjal...long time no type
15:48 libsysguy    heh
15:48 sekjal       libsysguy:  it's bug-squashing week-and-a-half, now :)
15:47 libsysguy    oh no...busy wizzy
15:47 * wizzyrea   can't squish today, too busy doing other stuff
15:46 libsysguy    so are we talking about bug squishing day or just hanging out today?
15:32 rhcl         I'll be glad to share my impressions of this year's LITA conference, which I attended two weeks ago, if anyone would like.
15:31 rhcl         We, which would be I, might be willing to "partner" with a vendor or other interested party if desired.
15:30 oleonard     rhcl: Right in my neck of the woods
15:28 wizzyrea     ty wahanui
15:27 wahanui      graphicsmagick is avaliable in package form for the following Operating Systems: Version 1.1.11 in Lenny, 1.3.12 in Squeeze, 1.3.5 in Sid and Ubuntu Lucid. Regarding the update message, all Koha functions still work even if you only have Version 1.1.11.
15:27 wizzyrea     graphicsmagick
15:27 rhcl         http://www.lita.org/ala/mgrps/divs/lita/conferences/forum/2012/2012%20LITA%20National%20F.pdf
15:27 oleonard     Interesting, maximep's works for me, the other doesn't (although I know it did at one time)
15:25 maximep      I use PS1='[\u@\h \W$(__git_ps1 " (%s)")]\$ '
15:24 kijanka      oleonard: that, thanks
15:22 wahanui      Maybe that is, like, held generall and /etc/koha/zebradb/etc is valid for all koha-sites
15:22 oleonard     Maybe that?
15:22 pastebot     "oleonard" at 66.213.78.34 pasted "Trick for keeping track of what git repo you are currently using/editing" (14 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/73
15:17 kijanka      There was this tiny script showing active git branch in bash prompt
15:16 kijanka      s/to/too
15:16 kijanka      Me to :)
15:16 wizzyrea     kijanka: glad you got it workign.
15:16 kf           bye all
15:16 kf           ok, but more later - thx for the pointer
15:16 kijanka      wizzyrea: ok, I have it working - was misleaded by "or if you have Chrome or Firefox installed on your dev machine, and have logged into bugzilla at least once from that machine, git-bz can use that."
15:15 kf           acq probably...
15:15 kf           lists has a bug for that too
15:15 kf           not only there
15:14 sekjal       particularly in C4/Serials.pm
15:14 sekjal       yeah, lots of checks on {'flags'} != 1
15:13 kf           sekjal: I searched around in git and found different versions of checking for superlibraian, but none seemed to work :(
15:12 kijanka      wizzyrea: I've done it
15:11 wizzyrea     git config bz.default-product Koha
15:11 wizzyrea     git config --global bz-tracker.bugs.koha-community.org.path /bugzilla3
15:11 wizzyrea     kijanka: these - git config bz.default-tracker bugs.koha-community.org
15:11 kf           sekjal: than a lot of places in the code need fixing
15:11 sekjal       kf:  cool; do keep in mind I could be mistaken, but that *should* fix it
15:11 kf           sekjal: I can try taht tonight
15:10 wizzyrea     ah, have you configured your globals?
15:10 sekjal       kf:  ($userenv->{'flags'} & 1) should do it
15:10 wahanui      i already had it that way, kijanka.
15:10 kijanka      NameError: global name 'host' is not defined
15:10 kijanka      Same as your was, it seems
15:10 kf           kijanka: what is your error?
15:09 kijanka      From where can I get a working copy o git-bz? I've been trying to follow "Git bz configuration from koha wiki, but git-bz is throwing an error
15:09 kf           sekjal: sorry, not sure I can go there
15:09 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6885 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, ASSIGNED , Superlibrarian users can't delete items from another library when IndependantBranches
15:09 oleonard     Is the check used in Bug 6885 incorrect?
15:09 kf           ??
15:09 sekjal       kf:  fix will require bitwise AND
15:08 nengard      or i thought it wasn't a bug but if oleonard says the code is funny maybe it was a bug :)
15:08 kf           there seems to be no real working check for superlibrarian permission
15:08 nengard      was happy it wasn't a "bug"
15:08 kf           sekjal: what oleonard writes in bug 7002 is the reason my work on the basket thing failed :(
15:08 nengard      sekjal that would be me :)
15:08 wizzyrea     heh
15:08 kf           yeah we did
15:08 sekjal       oh, we DID crack 7000 before 3.8
15:06 reiveune     bye
15:06 nengard      i'm not sure it should have anything to do with it ?.
15:06 oleonard     }
15:06 oleonard     $item->{'branchname'} = $branches{$item->{$hbranch}};
15:06 wahanui      interesting is good
15:06 oleonard     if ($item->{$hbranch}) {
15:06 nengard      interesting
15:06 oleonard     # set item's branch name, use HomeOrHoldingBranch syspref first, fall back to the other one
15:06 nengard      intresting
15:05 nengard      oh
15:05 kf           I thought I was going crazy over this
15:05 oleonard     nengard: No but rangi mentioned it yesterday, and indeed the code includes a check for it
15:05 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7002 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Inaccurate checks for borrower flags == 1
15:05 kf           oleonard++ for bug 7002
15:05 nengard      oleonard i don't mention that preference in the bug report do I?
15:01 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7000 enhancement, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW , show home and holding branch on staff search results
15:01 oleonard     Re: Bug 7000, I don't understand what HomeOrHoldingBranch has to do with the display of library name on search results.
14:16 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5528 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, tajoli, ASSIGNED , Analytical records support
14:16 sekjal       jcamins_away++ (for work on bug 5528)
14:10 paul_p       wizzyrea: in fact we had both cases : once, there was a trailing invisible space at the end of a branchcode. No pain except in overdue_notices iirc. And once a - and some problems I don't remember exactly what they were (well, should have been in command line script, as - is for parameters...)
14:09 wizzyrea     :)
14:09 wizzyrea     thanks for the advice
14:09 paul_p       wizzyrea: we don't have special chars in library code, except, iirc, we have a - once. and we had some problems with that (or was it a space...)
14:09 jcamins_away wizzyrea: I'm betting that causes weird things, too, but I've never tried.
14:09 sekjal       paul_p:  my passport and visa were returned to the wrong address, several miles down the road... had to have a little talk with FedEx
14:08 wizzyrea     what about dots
14:08 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6553 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , Parentheses in corporate author break tracings
14:08 oleonard     How to test Bug 6553?
14:08 wizzyrea     k, I thought that might be a bad idea
14:07 jcamins_away wizzyrea: last I heard, weird things happened.
14:07 wizzyrea     is that inadvisable or ok
14:07 wizzyrea     branchcode, sorry
14:07 wizzyrea     library branchname
14:07 wizzyrea     does anyone know if weird things happen with special characters, say, hyphens, in library codes
14:06 paul_p       lol. I've got my visa yesterday, so I feel the odor of the trip ;-)
14:06 sekjal       it's hard to wrap my head around how quickly KohaCon is coming up
14:06 sekjal       thanks!
14:05 paul_p       will cc: you !
14:05 paul_p       well, it's in less than 3 weeks from now, i'll drop him a mail to see where we are (I know he was wounded in an accident, this may explain that...)
14:04 sekjal       paul_p:  no, I haven't heard anything
14:03 paul_p       sekjal: do you have had some news from koustubha about hackfest ?
14:03 sekjal       paul_p:  I think we wound up in three rooms
14:02 paul_p       ?
14:02 paul_p       you booked a suite for 3 of you (ruth being with jo & brooke iirc)
14:02 paul_p       yes ! we are here too !
14:02 sekjal       we're at Vihang's Inn
14:01 sekjal       :)
14:01 paul_p       bg ? You mean Bill Gates ? really ? (kidding ;-) )
14:01 sekjal       paul_p:  bg, druthb, JesseM and myself
14:00 paul_p       fine. some questions around KohaCon & hackfest: who comes from ByWater ? in which hotel do you stay ?
14:00 sekjal       paul_p:  yes, I'm here
14:00 paul_p       sekjal: around ?
13:58 gmcharlt     rhcl: howdy
13:58 huginn       rhcl: gmcharlt was last seen in #koha 3 days, 15 hours, 22 minutes, and 55 seconds ago: <gmcharlt> ... just for the very polite ones
13:58 rhcl         @seen gmcharlt
13:54 oleonard     Hi wizzyrea
13:53 wizzyrea     mornin
13:50 huginn       New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6963] When creating a new order, the item isn't added if its barcode already exists in the items table. <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6963>
13:36 oakivil      hmm xslt stylesheet were turned off
13:34 oakivil      ok so i have only tha bare necessary headers and the 653 field
13:34 oakivil      I create a marc21 binary file to be imported with this bulkauthimport.pl
13:34 sekjal       Koha is hardcoded to figure out what a MARC Authority Record's type is by what fields are present (110, 111, 120, etc)
13:33 oakivil      sekjal: so what do you mean by this "completely different MARC field" ?
13:33 kf           not to the normal views/xslt views
13:33 oakivil      ok
13:33 kf           the hidden values
13:32 kf           oakivil: that only applies to the mac views
13:32 kf           was a one liner last time I looked at it
13:32 oakivil      in my default configuration Books marc framework has field 653$a hidden
13:32 kf           and add that to the import script
13:32 kf           what sekjal says
13:32 kf           yep
13:31 sekjal       oakivil:  be sure your custom Authorities type uses a completely different MARC field for the main heading
13:30 oakivil      and then attach it to a Marc framework
13:30 oakivil      But I need to make a custom Authorities type for that
13:30 oakivil      I am importing this National Subject Word Repository to Koha, and I need to cut the words from this XML/RDF mess and create a Marc21 wrapper for them to be injected into Koha
13:29 kf           much nicer view
13:29 jwagner      yes, if you're not using XSLT now
13:29 kf           it's recommendable anyway
13:29 kf           yep
13:29 kf           if noone has been changing that
13:29 oakivil      so i need to configure from admin -> settings the xslt view -> ON
13:29 kf           standard
13:29 kf           all 6xx fields show
13:29 kf           we have that in one of our libraries
13:29 kf           no it shows
13:29 kf           it should show up with xslt view ON
13:28 jwagner      If you're asking about _displaying_ the 653 that may require a change to the XSLT file
13:28 oakivil      yes it is
13:28 kf           isn't 653 repeatable?
13:28 kf           let me reread it
13:28 kf           I am not sure I undertand your queston
13:28 kf           sorry oakivil
13:27 oakivil      is this possible?
13:26 oakivil      A question about Marc21-fields 6xx. Subject Added Entry and Index Term. It is possible to give one biblio multiple for ex. field 653 Index Terms, but how is it possible to show them in the OPAC to a customer? I should change the Zebra indexer settings to index field 653 and show it in the OPAC?
13:15 nengard      hello
13:15 kijanka      Hi oleonard, nengard
13:15 nengard      no prob oleonard
13:14 kijanka      I've already got used to it ;>
13:13 oleonard     Thanks for re-testing nengard
13:12 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6576 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, srdjan, RESOLVED FIXED, changing framework while cataloging looses data
13:12 * oleonard   is relieved Bug 6576 is fixed
12:53 Oak          \o
12:26 kf           hi oleonard :)
12:21 oleonard     Hi #koha
10:06 kf           :)
10:05 oakivil      but xslt sounds like a answer
10:02 oakivil      RDF as a authorities storage is pretty weird
10:02 oakivil      first I need to figure out how these RDF/XML files are structured
09:59 wahanui      well, xslt is a maze of twisty turny passages, all alike.
09:59 kf           xslt?
09:59 kf           hm
09:59 oakivil      in my case
09:59 oakivil      I guess the big problem is the conversion of RDF/XML to Marc21-authority
09:58 oakivil      hardly necessary
09:58 kf           but it basically should work I guess
09:58 kf           or creating new ones
09:58 kf           I never tried changing the mappings
09:58 kf           you are welcome
09:58 oakivil      kf: thank you, yeah it's coming clear to me now
09:43 kf           an example you can see for 100$a
09:42 kf           you link an authority framework to a marc subdield
09:42 kf           oakivil: the mappings are defined in the bibliographic frameworks
09:41 oakivil      I would like to know more about the Authorities module. What Marc21-authorities fields are mapped and how do I define which authorities go to which Koha lists?
09:40 oakivil      'ello #Koha
08:56 Amit_Gupta   heya kf
08:55 kf           hi Amit_Gupta and hdl
08:49 Amit_Gupta   for your reply
08:49 Amit_Gupta   yes thank
08:49 hdl          Amit_Gupta: have you received my answer ?
08:49 rangi        hi hdl
08:49 hdl          hi rangi
08:49 hdl          hi Amit_Gupta
08:49 Amit_Gupta   heya hdl, rangi
08:49 rangi        hi Amit_Gupta
08:49 Amit_Gupta   hi all
08:49 Amit_Gupta   heya koha
07:30 kf           :)
07:30 kf           morning alex_a
07:26 alex_a       morning kf :)
07:25 kf           good morning #koha
07:23 clrh         hello koha
07:13 rangi        http://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/5763630/Rena-worst-maritime-environmental-disaster
07:12 rangi        its a mess
07:12 rangi        yep
07:11 paul_p       rangi: yikes ? http://www.leparisien.fr/diaporama/en-images-maree-noire-catastrophique-en-nouvelle-zelande-11-10-2011-1648954.php
07:10 francharb    hello all
07:07 alex_a       bonjour
07:05 rangi        hi paul_p
07:04 paul_p       hello world
06:57 rangi        using git-bz
06:57 rangi        and then attach it to the bug
06:57 ropuch       I'm in the middle of ProGit Lecture ;>
06:57 rangi        git commit --amend -s
06:57 rangi        i do this
06:56 rangi        ahh its not so tricky
06:56 ropuch       But I have'nt been using git for some time
06:56 rangi        cool
06:56 ropuch       rangi: I'm on this page already [;
06:55 ropuch       I have strange feeling that "signing off" is not a proper form
06:55 rangi        http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Sign_off_on_patches
06:54 wahanui      signing off is, like, a great idea
06:54 rangi        wahanui: signing off?
06:54 rangi        sign off patches?
06:53 ropuch       Now I need to look through signing off instructioons
06:53 ropuch       fredericd: the patch for 6989 wokrded for me
06:52 cait         morning paul_p :)
06:36 reiveune     hi cait
06:36 cait         hi reiveune
06:36 reiveune     :) hi rangi
06:36 rangi        hi reiveune
06:36 reiveune     hello
06:30 rangi        :)
06:30 rangi        thats its
06:30 ropuch       But I bet you were thinking about 8859 ;)
06:30 Oak          :)
06:29 ropuch       ;-)
06:29 ropuch       ISO 9951 - Measurement of Gas Flow in Closed Conduits - Turbine Meters.
06:29 Oak          sure
06:29 cait         ew = encoding problems
06:29 rangi        or whatever it is :)
06:29 Oak          awesome
06:29 rangi        no iso-9951
06:28 Oak          you just said 'eew'
06:28 cait         aloha Oak :)
06:28 Oak          Aloha cait
06:28 ropuch       ;>
06:27 cait         bit high
06:27 cait         9951?
06:27 rangi        but that bug should be easy to test
06:27 rangi        9951 or wahtever
06:27 cait         eew
06:27 rangi        yep, it can cause the browser to try and render it in iso
06:27 Oak          :)
06:27 ropuch       Serwus, Oak ;>
06:26 Oak          kia ora #koha
06:26 fredericd    Perl recent versions support far better those situations
06:26 fredericd    Just try. Sometime a mix of utf8 and non-utf8 string breaks completly the page rendition. It depends of Perl version
06:25 cait         ropuch: weird
06:25 ropuch       And that was really strange
06:24 ropuch       But it was not only category that was dipslayed wrong, every single non-asci character on the page was messed up
06:23 fredericd    test it, sign it off...
06:23 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6989 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, NEW , Patron categories not properly displayed if not pure ASCII
06:23 fredericd    ropuch: bug 6989
06:23 ropuch       The patron category description was "Uczeń"
06:22 ropuch_      Give me sec
06:21 cait         can you give me your example?
06:21 ropuch_      Description
06:20 cait         the patron category code or description?
06:20 cait         hm
06:20 ropuch_      Although page info and doctype/head info still was sayingL utf8
06:19 ropuch_      I found a strange bug yesterday: when patron category with some non standard Ĺletters was created, content of memeber.pl and members-home.pl was diplsayed with wrong ancoding
06:18 cait         what do you need to know? :)
06:18 cait         i might have
06:18 ropuch_      cait: do you by any chance have a minute and acces to 3.04.05 stuff interface?
05:56 rangi        heya ropuch_
05:56 cait         morning ropuch :)
05:56 ropuch_      *rangi
05:56 ropuch_      Morning #koha, hi cait & rabgi
04:45 cait         hi rangi :)
04:45 rangi        hi cait :)
04:38 cait         morning #koha
03:27 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bumping database version to 3.05.00.015
03:27 jenkins_koha * ian.walls: Enh 6902: Novelist Select enhanced content
03:27 jenkins_koha * ian.walls: Enh 6902: Novelist Select enhanced content
03:27 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #470: SUCCESS in 48 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/470/
02:39 jenkins_koha Starting build 470 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
02:34 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Bumping database version to 3.05.00.015 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d2d42b47c86d7dd10ccb3f866b090f70cac0140c> / Enh 6902: Novelist Select enhanced content <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0435a1d2f50b9380bbb9eef43c8f6d8ad3404e18> / Enh 6902: Novelist Select enhanced content <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e5ff85d5562330dbd3
01:32 rangi        heya NateC