Time  Nick           Message
00:30 rangi          bg: sorry was at lunch
00:30 rangi          yeah the koha-common in /etc/cron.daily/
00:37 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_master build #460: SUCCESS in 47 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/460/
00:37 jenkins_koha   magnus: Bug 6953 - Value builder for NORMARC 007 does not show further options
00:37 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6953 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, magnus, NEW , Value builder for NORMARC 007 does not show further options
00:46 huginn         New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6986] update perltidy with new official style <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6986>
00:54 jenkins_koha   Starting build 461 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
01:02 huginn         New commit(s) kohagit: 6584: Enable searching on Zebra's Bib-level index <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f02796d989a377266a844e5b498945372a2a254f>
01:12 huginn         New commit(s) kohagit: 6786: False detection of index names in Search; make index names case insensitive <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=cd1fbb7510c8d931cf0658d62ff66bdfbb079ef1> / 6769 Getting rid of some RIS errors/warnings <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=293a9baba8b95bb7bb60c0a3d7ba3ce33c16c01d>
01:24 huginn         New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6048: printoverdues.sh bash odities <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=cfe8b6bd9a4f1921cb728d784083300344bcf2b1>
01:34 druthb         o/
01:37 rangi          heya druthb
01:38 Danielle       Hi!
01:38 jcamins_away   rangi++ # for solving tough problems
01:38 druthb         hi, rangi and Danielle!
01:41 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_master build #461: SUCCESS in 47 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/461/
01:41 jenkins_koha   m.de.rooy: 6584: Enable searching on Zebra's Bib-level index
01:41 jenkins_koha   Starting build 462 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
01:43 jcamins_away   rangi: question about resource use with the packages- how costly are separate Zebra servers for each instance?
01:44 rangi          2 secs
01:44 jcamins_away   Take your time.
01:44 eythian        jcamins_away: zebra is pretty light
01:45 pastebot       "rangi" at 202.78.240.7 pasted "2298 ashs-koh 20 0 97900 5272" (6 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/66
01:45 rangi          not a lot
01:45 rangi          is the answer
01:45 jcamins_away   Hmm. That's good.
01:45 jcamins_away   Thomas Krichel has been running ca. 20 instances on a server with no more than 1GB of RAM.
01:46 rangi          yeah
01:46 rangi          its very light
01:46 eythian        we've also been thinking about the idea of allowing the packages to have a dedicated, remote, zebra server. Though, the main reason for this would be IO load more than anything.
01:46 eythian        as yet we haven't needed to.
01:46 jcamins_away   eythian: yeah, I like the idea of that.
01:46 jcamins_away   eythian: I mean, having that as an easy option.
01:47 eythian        yeah, zebra allows it, but I'm not sure how the rebuilding would work.
01:47 jcamins_away   Ah, right.
01:47 eythian        http://blog.ounodesign.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/OccupyWallStreetVelcrow11x.jpg
01:48 jcamins_away   Heh. I know her.
01:48 jcamins_away   Or, at least, we've met.
01:55 jcamins_away   rangi: thanks!
01:56 rangi          hopefully its some use
01:56 jcamins_away   Hm. Running low on RAM. Maybe it's because I have two VMs running.
01:56 jcamins_away   Three, now.
01:56 rangi          heh its the day for continually calling people the wrong name
01:56 rangi          mason has been called james twice
01:57 rangi          and magnus got marcus
01:57 jcamins_away   Heh.
01:57 jcamins_away   I was called "Jordan" the other day.
01:57 jcamins        No idea where that came from.
01:57 rangi          heh
01:59 eythian        cait: it's 4am there.
01:59 cait           oh wow
01:59 rangi          wtf
01:59 cait           wtf
01:59 rangi          hehe
01:59 eythian        ah, you're sleepircing.
01:59 cait           woke up and have no clock on my bed
01:59 cait           thought it was later
02:00 eythian        heh
02:01 druthb         hi, cait!
02:02 druthb         bye, cait!
02:02 druthb         :P
02:02 jcamins        eythian: is there a list of variables that can go in koha-sites.conf?
02:02 eythian        There's some in the man page, but mostly look in the source of koha-create, it's changing a lot at the moment
02:03 jcamins        Ah.
02:03 jcamins        Ohhh. That's supposed to be "DOMAIN".
02:04 jcamins        I was wondering about that.
02:04 eythian        hmm?
02:04 jcamins        I had a typo.
02:04 jcamins        It said MAIN=whatever.
02:04 eythian        where'd it say that?
02:04 eythian        ah
02:10 eythian        http://www.dangerousminds.net/comments/photos_of_people_scared_shitless_at_haunted_house/
02:11 rangi          did i ever tell you thats how i spent my stag night
02:11 rangi          in kennywood amusement park in pittsburgh
02:11 rangi          during halloween season
02:11 eythian        heh
02:11 rangi          so they had ppl walking round with chainsaws, and the clown from It
02:12 rangi          after a few beers, that stuff is scary!
02:12 rangi          those are awesome photos
02:13 eythian        http://www.flickr.com/photos/nightmaresfearfactory/with/5985153495/ <-- the whole set
02:13 jcamins        I thought one of the complaints about Puppet was that it had a global namespace.
02:13 jcamins        So where are my global variables?
02:13 eythian        variables?
02:14 jcamins        That was a mostly rhetorical question. I don't expect you to solve my Puppet problems.
02:14 eythian        heh
02:14 eythian        puppet doesn't really have variables
02:14 jcamins        I have a variables $zebra_marc_language set to 'en' in manifests/site.pp.
02:14 eythian        also, I think it's more the class namespace is global
02:14 eythian        that's more of a constant
02:14 eythian        because you can't change it
02:14 jcamins        Well, yeah, unchanging variable.
02:14 jcamins        Like in XSLT. :)
02:15 eythian        but anyway, I can't remember how to namespace them in puppet, it's been too long.
02:15 jcamins        When I try to use that constant in a template used by the Koha class, it recognizes that they were set, but doesn't have any value in them.
02:16 * jcamins      grumbles a bunch
02:23 jcamins        Oh, mystery solved.
02:24 eythian        What is the solution?
02:24 wahanui        the solution is probably probably to enable a way to tell Koha not to store that local password value
02:24 jcamins        Heh.
02:24 jcamins        No, wahanui, the solution is to use the proper template syntax.
02:24 wahanui        okay, jcamins.
02:24 eythian        heh right
02:24 wizzyrea       the solution
02:24 wahanui        the solution is to use the proper template syntax.
02:24 wizzyrea       hrmph
02:25 jcamins        You know, going from H::T::P to T::T to ERB leaves a fellow very confused.
02:25 eythian        heh
02:28 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_master build #462: SUCCESS in 47 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/462/
02:28 jenkins_koha   * m.de.rooy: 6769 Getting rid of some RIS errors/warnings
02:28 jenkins_koha   * m.de.rooy: 6786: False detection of index names in Search; make index names case insensitive
02:29 jenkins_koha   * jonathan.druart: Bug 6048: printoverdues.sh bash odities
02:29 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6048 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, jonathan.druart, ASSIGNED , printoverdues.sh bash odities
02:33 jcamins        Hm. There should be OPACPORT, OPACPREFIX, and OPACSUFFIX. Has someone reported a bug yet?
02:33 eythian        nope, no one has needed them :)
02:34 eythian        actually, OPACPORT I think is going to go in
02:34 jcamins        Ah, yes, well done. :)
02:34 jcamins        Patched, too.
02:34 jcamins        Still needs a sign-off.
02:34 eythian        yeah
02:35 * jcamins      adds that to his list for signing off.
02:35 eythian        I've been meaning to sort out another patch and was going to do them both at the same time.
02:35 eythian        But feel free to check it out and sign-off on it if you want :)
02:35 jcamins        I won't get until it until Saturday at the earliest.
02:35 eythian        no problem
02:35 jcamins        I don't actually need it, since I'm only noticing the need for this as I eliminate my need for koha-create.
02:36 eythian        ah right
02:43 Guest12815     Hi everyone, I have a problem when importing a MARC record, author field (100) is locked, how do I edit it to enter the author?
02:44 eythian        author is linked to authorities by default
02:44 eythian        you can change that in the framework
02:45 jcamins        Guest12815: you'll could change BiblioAddsAuthorities to "allow" or "true," so that you don't have to have a pre-existing authority for every author.
02:45 eythian        that's another option, yeah
02:46 jcamins        That's probably the better option.
02:47 Guest12815     I have checked and 'BiblioAddsAuthorities' is set to allow
02:47 jcamins        Guest12815: and you're sure you can't type text into the author box?
02:47 jcamins        You want to edit subfield a.
02:48 jcamins        It will show a lock icon to tell you that there are authorities associated with that field.
02:49 Guest12815     I can't edit 100 a it's greyed out and it has a padlock and 3 dots at the end
02:50 jcamins        Guest12815: and you tried typing in that box?
02:51 jcamins        (sorry if this seems like a redundant question, but this confuses a lot of people)
02:51 Guest12815     I feel very stupid now! I have just tried typing in the box and I can! Sorry to waste your time!
02:51 jcamins        No problem.
02:51 eythian        jcamins: so, the field looks the same when you can't write in it as when you can?
02:52 eythian        I don't think that's so good.
02:52 jcamins        eythian: yeah, I agree.
02:52 Guest12815     Yes it looks grey with a padlock inside the box, that's why I thought it was read only
02:53 eythian        that's also how it looks when it is readonly
02:53 eythian        it should at least not be grey when you can write in it.
02:55 Guest12815     I totally agree with you guys! If you see a grey textbox with a padlock in it you assume it's read only don't you?
02:56 jcamins        Except for when I know that it's not, as in this case. ;)
02:56 jcamins        But, generally, yeah, that's very confusing.
02:56 Guest12815     Ok I'd better go and do some work now, thanks again guys. Catch you later
02:58 jcamins        Woohoo! I have an Apache config file!
02:58 eythian        cool :)
02:58 jcamins        It's the little things. :)
02:58 eythian        are you having puppet reproduce all of koha-create, or is it using koha-create to create things?
02:59 jcamins        The former.
02:59 jcamins        If I were really good, I'd figure out a way to do the latter, but I'm not that good.
02:59 eythian        that seems like the hard way
02:59 jcamins        There are two problems with using koha-create.
02:59 eythian        it's really easy, you just set it up so that it uses koha-list to figure out if an instance exists, if not it uses koha-create to create it.
03:00 jcamins        Okay, that solved one of 'em.
03:00 jcamins        The other one is that the passwords would be created on each individual machine.
03:01 eythian        why's that an issue?
03:01 jcamins        Making it very difficult to have an Apache front-end on multiple servers.
03:02 jcamins        (remember, it is not my claim that this would necessarily be impossible, just that I'm not smart enough to do it)
03:02 eythian        ah right
03:02 eythian        that's solvable, patch koha-create to allow it to use a command to get the password, and then you can supply a file or whatever along with puppet that it's to use for the password.
03:03 jcamins        Hmmm.
03:03 jcamins        That makes sense.
03:03 * jcamins      can't believe you waited until _after_ I had battled the Apache config to point this out. :P
03:04 eythian        you shoulda asked ;)
03:04 jcamins        Yeah, apparently so. I thought you had work to do, though. :P
03:04 eythian        I'm researching for my kohacon talk at the moment :)
03:06 jcamins        eythian: what other variables were you going to add to koha-list and koha-create?
03:06 jcamins        It turns out I need to patch koha-create now.
03:07 eythian        only the ones on bug 6913
03:07 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6913 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, NEW , Improving koha-list and koha-create
03:07 eythian        at least, that's all I have plans for in the near future.
03:07 eythian        Magnus may be adding some more perhaps.
03:07 jcamins        You had said that you had something else you planned on adding to that, though, before asking for a sign-off?
03:08 eythian        oh yeah, it's for koha-list
03:11 jcamins        You know what, I think I'll wait to modify koha-create until Saturday.
03:12 jcamins        For right now, I'll just avoid having Puppet manage multiple servers.
03:12 eythian        heh
03:12 eythian        cait: it's 5am there
03:12 cait           I know
03:12 jcamins        And it's after 11 here.
03:12 eythian        It's still far too early
03:12 eythian        it's beer o'clock here
03:13 cait           and it's too early because it's beer o clock?
03:13 eythian        no, it's too early to be up, were I in Europe.
03:14 cait           hmpf
03:15 jcamins        Hm.
03:15 jcamins        Another problem with using koha-create.
03:15 jcamins        No, never mind.
03:15 jcamins        I can overload DEFAULTSQL to load data.
03:16 eythian        yep
03:17 jcamins        How do I use koha-list to check if an instance exists?
03:17 jcamins        Got it.
03:17 eythian        if koha-list | grep $instance ; then echo it exists ; fi
03:17 eythian        I think should do it
03:17 jcamins        Yup.
03:18 wajasu         this will help me out.  can someone create fresh new book with the author name having "Tester, Jürgen", and then save it as marcxml, and paste it in the koha paste tool.  i want to see if my dev/runtime environment is the same as someone with a wholesome debian environment.
03:18 jcamins        Even koha-list | grep $name || koha-create
03:18 eythian        grep -e "^$instance\$" is probably better.
03:18 jcamins        Ooh, yes, much better.
03:20 eythian        alright, beer o'clock time here.
03:20 wajasu         whats the best way to dev/test ( virtualbox with debian.  which debian?)  I might have to create such and environment.
03:20 eythian        debian stable
03:20 eythian        in virtualbox will work just fine
03:21 wajasu         perl version? what comes with debian?
03:21 eythian        yep
03:21 eythian        http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Setting_Up_Koha_in_Virtual_Environment_%2B_Using_That_as_a_Development_Environment
03:21 wajasu         ok. here goes.
03:23 jcamins        Ah, the DB bit is going to be tricky.
03:24 jcamins        I guess koha-create also needs an option to use the existing database.
03:30 jcamins        As a temporary measure, I'll use --create-db
03:34 jcamins        Hm. Have to figure out how to run these commands in order.
05:09 eythian        jcamins_away: just run it with --populate-db
05:10 eythian        oh, that won't set everything up
05:10 eythian        yeah, an option to provide existing db details would be good.
05:11 * cait         waves
05:37 huginn         New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6774] Display barcode on OPAC detail page <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6774>
05:59 huginn         New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6761] Longer userid field <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6761>
06:06 ropuch         Morning #koha
06:06 cait           morning ropuch :)
06:15 magnuse        kia ora #koha
06:17 cait           hi magnuse :)
06:18 magnuse        guten morgen cait
06:26 alex_a         magnuse, cait: bonjour !
06:27 alex_a         and hello all
06:27 magnuse        bonjour alex_a
06:28 ropuch         Hi magnuse & alex_a
06:28 magnuse        hiya ropuch
06:30 oakivil        gooood moorniing #koha!
06:31 oakivil        I have been thinking about doing a Perl script updating the authorities tables inside Koha MySQL from a external authorities repository
06:32 oakivil        Anyway do you have any ideas can I directly inject authorities to the MySQL tables or do I have to use the bulkauthoritiesimport.pl?
06:32 huginn         New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6776] Add Checkin tab to patron search tool <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6776>
06:35 magnuse        oakivil: i wonder if cait is doing something like that? i might not remember correctly
06:35 cait           we use bulkmarcimport with -a I think
06:35 cait           or bulkauthorities
06:36 cait           should basically be quite similar in the outocme
06:37 magnuse        oakivil: i think i would generally prefer existing scripts over doing things directly in the database
06:39 magnuse        http://div.libriotech.no/kohamisc/gbsd/gbsd5/hourlystatus-gbsd5.txt yay!
06:40 rangi          awesome!
06:44 reiveune       hello
06:44 wahanui        salut, reiveune
06:45 magnuse        yeah, nothing like a deadline to make things happen, hehe ;-)
06:45 magnuse        bonjour reiveune
06:46 reiveune       salut magnuse :)
06:53 alex_a         bug 6919
06:53 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6919 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, alex.arnaud, ASSIGNED , Implementing XSLTResultsDisplay
06:53 magnuse        yay
06:55 magnuse        how does bug 6958 affect translations - will .po files have to be regenerated, or does it only affect installation of translations?
06:55 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6958 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, NEW , Missing spaces in translated templates
06:56 rangi          the former
06:56 rangi          have to be updated
06:56 rangi          translate update
06:58 francharb      hello
06:58 rangi          hi francharb
06:59 magnuse        thanks rangi
07:13 kf             good morning #koha :)
07:13 rangi          heya kf
07:13 asaurat        good morning :)
07:14 kf             hi asaurat :)
07:14 kf             paul said you worked in germany?
07:14 * kf           whois asaurat
07:14 kf             ah, I am not awake et
07:14 asaurat        I've been in Berlin for a while, but I'm in Marseilles now
07:15 kf             how did you like it in Berlin?
07:15 asaurat        do you know Germany ? are you from there ?
07:16 kf             I am German :) working for BSZ in Konstanz
07:16 asaurat        I liked it, awesome city, would stay there forever if.. well... if it was in France :D (I don't feel like living in a foreign land after all)
07:16 asaurat        oh, I visited Konstanz too on my way back !
07:16 kf             oh nice!
07:17 asaurat        I wanted to see more of Germany and walked through Berlin - Pirna - Nürnberg - München - Lindau - Konstanz - Freiburg
07:17 kf             the lake is nice, right? (I am biased)
07:18 asaurat        hehe, the lake is very beautiful, I took the boat to cross it, not enough time to visit the Lindenberg museum sadly
07:18 * Oak          waves
07:18 christophe_c   hello people
07:18 rangi          hi christophe_c and Oak
07:18 rangi          and asaurat
07:18 asaurat        hi
07:18 Oak            hello rangi
07:18 christophe_c   hello rangi
07:19 kf             :)
07:19 Oak            Guten Tag kf
07:19 christophe_c   hello kf
07:19 kf             I was in marseille for the last european hackfest - it's a nice city
07:19 kf             didn't see much though, lots of hacking
07:19 kf             hi christophe_c :)
07:19 kf             hi Oak :)
07:19 christophe_c   yes it was good time kf
07:20 christophe_c   unhappy the sea was a little cool....
07:20 kf             yep, hope to repeat it .)
07:20 christophe_c   me too
07:20 kf             even if it will force you all to talk English again ;)
07:20 christophe_c   :)
07:21 christophe_c   it's a good practice for a froggy ;-)
07:21 kf             for me too
07:21 kf             don't get to talk much
07:22 hdl            hi
07:22 kf             hi hdl :)
07:22 asaurat        Marseille is a very contrasted city, some parts are gorgeous, other parts are... well... not so
07:23 rangi          i like itd
07:23 rangi          wow
07:23 rangi          i liked it
07:23 rangi          that was a crazy typo
07:23 * kf           sends coffeee and cookies
07:23 rangi          http://photos.bigballofwax.co.nz/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=6848
07:24 rangi          http://photos.bigballofwax.co.nz/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=6917  <-- recognise anyone? :)
07:26 christophe_c   hdl on 1140334417_l  as a cowboy ?
07:26 christophe_c   :)
07:26 rangi          hehe
07:26 christophe_c   nice rangi
07:26 rangi          that was at the rugby bar, in marseille
07:26 christophe_c   oh I see
07:26 rangi          they had good food there
07:27 rangi          i forget the name of it, but it was close to the hotel we stayed at
07:44 rangi          hi paul_p
07:44 paul_p         hi rangi & al
07:44 paul_p         rangi: what's your bet for tomorrow FR-EN match ?
07:45 rangi          my heart says france
07:45 rangi          my head says england
07:45 paul_p         (don't ask me mine, I really can't do one, there's a too big difference between what I feel and what I want ;-) )
07:45 rangi          by 12 and under
07:45 kf             morning paul_p
07:47 paul_p         I think i'll try to look at NZ-AR on sunday morning (& go to the church early). That should be a pleasant game to see !
07:49 rangi          i think sa vs aus too
07:49 rangi          will be interesting
08:09 slef           oh both FR and EN are capable of having a stinker
08:09 rangi          tis true
08:18 mtj            rangi: about still?
08:18 rangi          yup
08:18 * alex_a       hopes rangi's heart will be right
08:19 mtj            heya chris, i'm having a last -minute wack at the stars-ratings code...
08:20 mtj            who soon until the general freeze?
08:20 mtj            s/who/how/
08:20 mtj            its tomorrow-ish?
08:20 rangi          string freeze?
08:20 wahanui        somebody said string freeze was 8th april
08:20 rangi          close
08:21 rangi          24:00 8th October
08:21 rangi          but bugs that dont change templates/strings are still ok after that
08:21 mtj            gotcha
08:23 oakivil        cait: magnuse: So I could download the recent changes from the national authorities repository, then use the bulkauthimport.pl to add the recent updates to Koha. I could make a Cron Job to handle these tasks. Sounds like a plan.
08:23 kf             oakivil: I think that's how we do it
08:23 kf             matching on 001
08:24 kf             I think we do something to keep the 001 and let it not be replaced by koha's internal number
08:24 kf             would have to ask my coworker, might be possible to do it with the options available from the script
08:25 magnuse        oakivil: sounds doable, but i havn't actually tried it...
08:25 oakivil        Also had a discussion with our systems administratoress, and we found out that we need to have separate notification triggers for each item type.
08:25 oakivil        Cd's should have 7 days notification delay, Books 21 days. Items with holds 5 days.
08:25 oakivil        currently you can only set delays on a Patron category basis.
08:27 oakivil        I guess it is doable via the script variables
08:32 kf             yeah
08:32 kf             oakivil: there is a group
08:32 kf             working on a spec for notice rewrite
08:33 kf             and this is definitely on the list of thigns a lot of people want
08:38 kf             http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Messaging_rewrite_RFC
09:10 slef           wahanui: no, string freeze is 24:00 8th October
09:10 wahanui        ...but string freeze is 8th april...
09:10 slef           wahanui: no, string freeze is 24:00 8th October
09:10 wahanui        ...but string freeze is 8th april...
09:11 kf             forget string freeze
09:11 wahanui        kf: I forgot string freeze
09:11 slef           kf: bah. I know we can do that, but why aren't corrections working as documented?
09:11 kf             slef: arguing with a bot... not a good idea :)
09:11 kf             ask eythian :)
09:11 slef           wahanui: string freeze is 24:00 8th October
09:11 wahanui        OK, slef.
09:11 kf             and there is documentation?
09:11 slef           kf: /msg wahanui help corrections
09:12 kf             oh
09:44 huginn         New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5786] Move AllowOnShelfHolds system preference to the Circulation Matrix <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5786>
10:06 magnuse        any UNIMARC users who have an opinion about Bug 6982?
10:06 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6982 minor, P5, ---, magnus, NEW , Don't show MARC21 tag documentation links for NORMARC (and UNIMARC?)
11:58 huginn         New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6982] Don't show MARC21 tag documentation links for NORMARC <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6982>
12:12 kmkale         namaskar #koha
12:19 paul_p         hello back
12:19 paul_p         (annoying BibLibre VPN...)
12:25 oleonard       Bug 6576 really doesn't want to play nice
12:25 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6576 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, srdjan, ASSIGNED , changing framework while cataloging looses data
12:37 oleonard       Anyone willing to test Bug 6970 in some non-Windows browsers?
12:37 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6970 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , logout not redirecting to login page
12:40 nengard        oleonard i will
12:42 oleonard       Hey schuster, long time no see
12:43 oleonard       He dschust1, long time no see
12:43 * kf           waves
12:43 dschust1       yeah things have been a bit crazy and not being on community has kept me away.
12:44 oleonard       not_using_Koha--
12:44 kf             :(
12:44 dschust1       We're still on Koha I'm just working to get us back to koha-community.
12:44 dschust1       That PTXX thing.
12:44 oleonard       There's only one Koha.
12:45 dschust1       Anyway you know what I mean...
12:45 oleonard       :)
12:45 dschust1       We love koha and what we can do so things are moving forward.
12:45 nengard        oleonard bug 6970 needs another sign off from a windows and/or linux user
12:45 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6970 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , logout not redirecting to login page
12:47 dschust1       Besides I have missed all of you!
12:48 magnuse        oleonard: i can't seem to get 6970 to do it's stuff for Opera 11.10 on Ubuntu 11.04
12:49 oleonard       magnuse: Be sure to clear your cache so the browser is fetching a fresh copy of the js
12:49 magnuse        yeah, that's what i'm trying to make sure i'm doing ,-)
12:52 magnuse        oleonard: i deleted everything, but it still closes the tab koha is in...
12:52 oleonard       Interesting... Opera seems to be the only browser besides FF7 affected by this bug?
12:53 magnuse        the patch fixed it for ff7 on ubuntu
12:53 magnuse        chromium was not affected
12:59 oleonard       Hm, works for me in Opera on Windows, v. 11.51
13:02 huginn         New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6987] C4::Overdues::GetFine returns inconsistent <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6987>
13:20 kf             hm I have to add a new language to the pull down in advanced search
13:21 kf             do I have to change the database tables for that?
13:24 hdl            kf: unfortunately yes
13:26 * oleonard     learns for the first time of the language_descriptions table
13:28 kf             hdl: hm, I could hard-code the list too?
13:28 kf             hdl: or is it strictly needed for search? the table
13:28 kf             hdl: special use case, I only need weird languages like latin, old english...
13:28 oleonard       The advanced search form pulls the languages from that table
13:29 nengard        heh
13:29 nengard        maybe i should document that
13:29 kf             oleonard: yep, I compared the generated list in html to the template
13:29 oleonard       Although yeah, theoretically speaking you could hard-code an option in the template
13:29 hdl            kf: you can take whatever solution you want.... But for sake of consistency with the community, you may want just add those langauges into database...
13:30 hdl            C4::Languages is a mess.
13:30 hdl            And is really heavy loading on all the pages.
13:31 * oleonard     wonders why, in his production catalog, the only language listed is Norsk nynorsk (Norwegian nynorsk), and it's listed twice...
13:32 kf             hdl: I think this is too special to be sent as patch
13:32 kf             hdl: it's a catalog for old manuscripts
13:32 oleonard       right  up jcamins_away's alley, kf
13:33 kf             I will think about it - the best way to make it work
13:33 kf             oleonard: I told him about it - hopes he will proof read some of my translations
13:33 oleonard       Our languages table must have gotten hosed a some point, and Norwegian got added in by a database update
13:34 wizzyrea       oleonard: what if you offered a suggestion and the patron typed it in themselves, twice.
13:35 wizzyrea       re: your mail
13:35 oleonard       wizzyrea: That's a valid option... although to be specific we're talking about the staff side, so it would be the staff typing
13:35 kf             hdl: it works :) thx
13:36 wizzyrea       or enter it twice, select this radio button to use this (dislayed) random password
13:36 wizzyrea       sorry, that wasn't clear
13:37 wizzyrea       have the option to enter it twice and type it in, or offer to use this displayed random password
13:38 oleonard       It would be easy to make the suggested password a link which when clicked would populate both fields.
13:39 oleonard       wizzyrea: Do your librarians use the suggested password?
13:39 wizzyrea       i'm not sure
13:39 wizzyrea       i could poll them
13:40 sekjal         oleonard:  re your double Norwegian language issue, I don't believe those options are pulled from the database
13:40 sekjal         I believe they're template-only
13:41 oleonard       No, the languages aren't hard-coded into the template
13:44 sekjal         huh, there is a database field for that... that's so strange
13:46 kf             not only a field
13:46 kf             tables
13:46 kf             that's why I have resorted to hardcode my 5 languages for now :P
13:47 oleonard       sekjal: And there is a line in updatedatabase.pl which adds Norwegian.
13:48 oleonard       kf: Although if you added your custom languages directly to your database it would probably not be overwritten upon upgrade (as we can see from my system)
13:49 jcamins_away   kf: alas, adding languages to the tables is the way to go.
13:49 kf             kf: I will change it if there is some time left later on
13:49 kf             oleonard... not talking to myself
13:49 jcamins        Well, even better would be removing the expensive helper functions altogether.
13:49 kf             have to truncate the tables and rewrite them completely
13:50 kf             and not sure if not other things pull from there too
13:50 kf             like the template langauge selection
13:50 kf             I suspect they do
13:50 oleonard       The language chooser in the footer? That looks at enabled languages doesn't it?
13:50 kf             yep
13:50 kf             but it also does use the codes
13:51 kf             submenus
13:51 kf             for english and so on
13:51 kf             nz, gb...
13:51 kf             and looking at the tables... there is a lot of information in there that I am not sure how it's used
13:51 oleonard       Ah you're right, I see there are different lines in language_descriptions just for that
13:51 kf             and I need different lists
13:52 kf             I know I am doing evil thigns changing the templates :)
13:52 * oleonard     adds Klingon and Pirate
13:52 kf             it's only they need a lot of special things :)
13:52 kf             so advanced search is a file I have to touch
13:54 magnuse        oleonard: why would you ever need anything else than nynorsk? ;-)
13:54 sekjal         oleonard:  looks like this is a potential problem with large upgrade jumps... trying to find the right table to use to restore
13:54 oleonard       It's very low priority sekjal
13:55 oleonard       Sorry magnuse: "No results match your search for “ ln,rtrn:nno” in Athens County Public Libraries Catalog"
13:56 magnuse        well, you better start buying then!  ;-)
13:57 magnuse        kf: yes , the language chooser at the bottom of pages gets the names of languages from some database table
14:02 sekjal         I can't seem to find where that table gets populated on install
14:06 kf             sekjal: I think it should be in kohastructure?
14:06 kf             it's a mandatory table
14:06 kf             ah
14:06 kf             there are also single sql files for the contents
14:06 kf             I remember NOT translating those
14:07 ropuch         This string is missing <, right? "other film type/option> %s " Or the "/option>" part is inthere by mistake?
14:08 oleonard       ropuch: Where?
14:09 oleonard       Oh, looks like an error in unimarc_field_115a.tt
14:09 oleonard       <option value="d" selected="selected">other film type/option>
14:09 ropuch         Its in stuff .po file, source entry 9243
14:10 oleonard       The string should just be "other film type"
14:10 ropuch         There's another, entry 8962 "lithography/option> %s "
14:10 kf             ropuch: you are right, looks like an html error
14:11 oleonard       sekjal: Is it overreaching for non-QA to say "failed QA" on a bug if it fails our testing?
14:11 kf             oleonard: there is no other way I think if it applies and is still not working
14:11 sekjal         oleonard:  if it fails your testing, please mark as Failed QA, with a description of how it failed
14:11 kf             ropuch: which file?
14:12 ropuch         stuff .po
14:13 sekjal         I'm planning to meet with the 3.8 QA team in the next few weeks and go over an explicit set of rights/responsibilities in this regard, so everyone knows the expectations
14:13 ropuch         pl-PL-i-staff-t-prog-v-3002000.po but it's in english source entries, not polish ones ;>
14:13 ropuch         Brb
14:13 sekjal         such a document is of course subject to community approval
14:13 kf             ropuch: I was thinking about the file where the string comes from :)
14:14 kf             ropuch: should be shown somewhere, it's in the comments
14:18 oleonard       cataloguing\value_builder\unimarc_field_116.tt
14:24 kf             ah
14:25 * Oak          waves
14:27 jcamins        Does anyone have the CSS off the top of their head to change the Intranet background color?
14:27 jcamins        This computer doesn't have Firebug.
14:29 oleonard       I don't think it's one simple change, because various containers also have their own background colors
14:29 oleonard       But generally speaking, just add a background-color to the body tag
14:29 jcamins        oleonard: it just has to be something visible, not something attractive.
14:29 jcamins        Thanks.
14:29 jcamins        I should've been able to figure that out.
14:30 * oleonard     changes the color of #header to help him see that he's in production vs. testing
14:30 Oak            oleonard, you use Debian ?
14:30 Oak            just wondering
14:30 jcamins        oleonard: clever.
14:31 kf             oleonard: I do that too :)
14:31 oleonard       Oak: I run Ubuntu in a VM and do most of my development in Windows
14:31 Oak            hmm. got it.
14:33 jcamins        oleonard: good idea with the header.
14:33 kf             paul_p: not sure it's true for this patch, but git bz only does git apply I think, sometimes patches apply when you use git am -i3
14:33 kf             seeing your comment for 6303
14:34 paul_p         really ? wow, that would be annoying (& surprising, 90% of patches need -3 flag)
14:34 * paul_p       checks
14:34 kf             it gives you the path for the file it saved
14:35 kf             so it's easy to run git am -i3 after it failed
14:35 kf             no need to download the file separately at least
14:36 oleonard       I wouldn't be surprised if that genuinely doesn't apply. Lots of changes to lots of files
14:38 kf             yeah, me neither
14:38 paul_p         oleonard++
14:38 kf             really :) but still might be of help to know
14:38 kf             that bugzilla doesn't do it like you would normally do
14:39 paul_p         the patch does not apply with git -i3 either
14:39 * paul_p       can't be sure wether there is a -3 or no implied
14:39 paul_p         git bz calls git.am function, that is hidden "I don't know where"
14:43 hdl            git-am
14:43 hdl            not git.am...
14:44 kf             paul_p: I think this was discussed before in the chat - I am quite sure about it
14:45 paul_p         hdl, nope, the python function is git.am
14:45 paul_p         kf: ok, i'll check on the next "does not apply" bz problem
14:45 hdl            paul_p: should be in a git python module then.
14:46 kf             paul_p: only thing might be that it's changed in slefs version of git-bz
14:46 paul_p         hdl: yes, but as I don't know python, that's why i say "I don't know where" ;-)
14:47 paul_p         (silly to type in english on an irc channel where the guy you "speak" with is 4 meters away, and we could speak in native language ;-) (does it prove we are true geeks ;-) )
14:47 paul_p         s/where the guy/when the guy/
14:47 jcamins        paul_p: that makes perfect sense to me.
14:48 kf             hehe to me too
14:48 kf             we are all geeks
14:50 maximep        sorry for the spam on the bugzilla ml yet again. It seems finally our client authorized us to send those patches =)
14:51 sekjal         maximep:  huzzah!
14:52 kf             huzzah!
14:52 kf             I like this k ind of spam :)
14:52 kf             bug 6390 sekjal or paul: can someone of you fix it perhaps? I am sure I have messed it up when signing off
14:52 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6390 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, ef, ASSIGNED , Basket only visible for librarian who created it
14:52 kf             and still no idea where that comes from only sometimes
14:53 jcamins        Uh-oh. Linode just crashed?
14:53 kf             perhaps only a reconnect?
14:55 jcamins        Yeah, that was mighty fast for a crash.
14:55 sekjal         kf:  on my list for tackling today
14:55 sekjal         will get it working
14:55 jcamins        Momentary routing glitch, I suppose.
14:55 kf             sekjal: thx a lot
14:56 paul_p         kf I just wanted to finish my tour of all bugs before taking care of this. But sekjal, if you can, please do (it's 5PM here, so only 2 hours left. thx TZs that let us work 24x7 !)
14:56 paul_p         (well 24x5 at least !)
14:57 sekjal         24x6, even, with International Date Line
15:01 huginn         New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6978] Notify the user on his account page when it is almost expired. <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6978>
15:01 jcamins        Hey, viaf has a web interface, doesn't it?
15:02 jcamins        s/web/web services/
15:02 jcamins        s/web services interface/API/
15:02 jcamins        We should have Koha hook into that.
15:06 kf             :)
15:10 magnuse        not so much an api as a way to add different suffixes to urls, i think?
15:10 jcamins        magnuse: hm. I was thinking that would be a nifty cataloging plugin.
15:11 magnuse        it would!
15:12 magnuse        maximep: shouldn't those bugs that are now "patch sent" also be "needs signoff"? (i might be missing something, though...)
15:12 jcamins        On a totally different subject, it seems to me that moving XSLT/whatever rendering to an outside service would be pretty straightforward, if not actually trivial.
15:13 maximep        magnuse: hmmm probably
15:15 alex_a         wizzyrea ?
15:15 wahanui        I LIKE BAO or all about the resluts
15:15 wizzyrea       lol hi
15:15 wizzyrea       sup
15:16 alex_a         wizzyrea: juste did a new xslt for the bug 6919 :p
15:16 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6919 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, alex.arnaud, ASSIGNED , Implementing XSLTResultsDisplay
15:16 alex_a         s/juste/just/
15:16 alex_a         so french
15:16 wizzyrea       o cool
15:16 alex_a         it comes from opac :S but works well
15:16 * sekjal       just had an idea for more easily proxying 856$u subfields
15:17 wizzyrea       i think that's fine
15:17 wizzyrea       i'll check it
15:20 * alex_a       prays
15:21 sekjal         kf: got patch for bug 6390 to apply
15:21 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6390 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, ef, ASSIGNED , Basket only visible for librarian who created it
15:22 sekjal         minor merge conflict, which I've resolved.  on to testing
15:33 huginn         New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6919] Implementing XSLTResultsDisplay <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6919>
15:38 sekjal         kf: is the intent of 6390 to prevent superlibrarians from seeing all baskets unless the syspref allows it?
15:40 kf             no
15:40 kf             it lessens
15:40 kf             mom
15:40 kf             let me find words
15:41 kf             at the moment it's very strict
15:41 kf             superlibrarians see all, normal users only their own
15:41 kf             which is very strict
15:41 kf             the intent of the patch is to make it possible to see all of your branch or really all baskets system wide
15:41 kf             for normal users
15:41 kf             I am not sure how superlibrarians are affected here
15:42 kf             I tested with a user without superlibrarian set I think - haven't thought of it
15:42 kf             :(
15:42 sekjal         kf:  okay.  if I have the syspref set to "mine only", I can only see mine, even as superlibrarian
15:42 sekjal         superlibrarians privilege gets no special consideration
15:42 kf             ah, than it's to strict for that now
15:42 kf             bah.
15:42 kf             too strict even
15:43 kf             sekjal: will it be hard to change it so that superlibrarian sees all and for others the syspref is used?
15:43 sekjal         kf:  I don't think so
15:44 sekjal         just need to add an additional check in the conditional for "OR loggedinuser is superlibrarian"
15:44 sekjal         one line should do it
15:44 kf             I am packing up here right now
15:45 kf             can you leave a comment on the bug?
15:45 sekjal         already done :)
15:45 kf             will try to get back to it later
15:45 kf             thx
15:45 kf             ok
15:46 kf             the language thing should be easy to fix with a little help from #koha :)
15:47 kf             bye all
15:47 sekjal         later, kf!
15:54 huginn         New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6972] Hardcoded template paths to en in showmarc <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6972>
16:01 oleonard       What is a "Koha target for SFX?"
16:03 sekjal         oleonard: it's an SFX configuration
16:03 sekjal         so you can tie your Ex Libris SFX server to your Koha install
16:03 sekjal         I forget which direction, though (Koha to SFX, or SFX to Koha)
16:03 * oleonard     only knows SFX = "Special Effects"
16:04 sekjal         ah, it's from SFX to Koha
16:05 sekjal         Best Koha could do with that is linking at the ISBN/ISSN level
16:05 sekjal         (SFX is an electronic resources tracker, and can handle individual volume/issue and even article-level info)
16:16 oleonard       Hi vorstller
16:17 vorstller      entering a new books with "Framework > Books, Booklets, Workbooks (BKS)" ... I found all book already "on hold"
16:17 vorstller      oleonard: hi
16:18 vorstller      how to resolve this problem.... i need un-hold entries
16:18 oleonard       So you saved the record, added items, and then...?
16:19 vorstller      then i switch to OPAC and find the saved book in OPAC its shown already hold
16:19 vorstller      Am i missing any step?
16:20 oleonard       Where in the OPAC does it say it is on hold?
16:22 vorstller      when i search that specific book.... I am not allowing to hold this book through OPAC
16:24 paul_p         bugzilla is down ?
16:24 oleonard       paul_p: It is for me too
16:24 oleonard       vorstller: It sounds like you may not have a circulation rule set up to allow holds
16:24 paul_p         ok, so it means it's time to go back home ! 6:30PM here
16:25 oleonard       vorstller: http://manual.koha-community.org/3.2/en/circfaq.html#holdsfaq
16:25 oleonard       paul_p: Bugzilla is angry that we've made it work so hard
16:26 paul_p         oleonard: was thinking this too ! (+ was wondering if he was unhappy to have 5 "failed QA" consecutively !)
16:27 paul_p         on monday, no community work for me = quarterly update of all our customers ! on tuesday, i'll be in Lyon. See you on wednesday !
16:27 paul_p         (unless everything go smoothly on monday... may happend...)
16:29 reiveune       bye
16:30 sekjal         cheers, paul_p!
16:30 magnus_afk     http://div.libriotech.no/kohamisc/gbsd/gbsd5/hourlystatus-gbsd5.txt yay!
16:34 gmcharlt       paul_p: it's amazing - every time you report that bugzilla down, it seems to be right back up when I log in to check
16:34 gmcharlt       in any event, works for me
16:34 paul_p         lol. works again for me as well
16:34 paul_p         (but this time, owen saw it was down !
16:34 paul_p         )
16:35 gmcharlt       "Dear linode running bugs.koha-commmunity.org: do you need more cookies?"
16:35 paul_p         (& I got a nasty "mysql is down" page :
16:35 paul_p         Software error: Can't connect to the database. Error: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (111)   Is your database installed and up and running?   Do you have the correct username and password selected in localconfig?    For help, please send mail to the webmaster (chris@bigballofwax.co.nz), giving this error message  and the time and date of the error.
16:35 paul_p         ok, time to go back home. Good week end everybody !
16:37 sekjal         I also got the error, but it's back up now
16:37 paul_p         patches to QA down to 41... keep on good work sekjal ! I've checked all bugs <6879. They are not string-freeze concerned, except for my patches (6328, 5636, 5898, 5981 & maybe a few others)
17:10 cait           good evening #koha
17:12 cait           hm silent :)
17:18 nengard        hi
17:19 cait           hi nengard :)
17:22 * jcamins      is going to celebrate pizza Friday in New York. :)
17:31 cait           yay! :)
17:38 nengard        meh - don't know if i can finish these help files today
17:38 nengard        i'm so tired of looking at them ?.
17:38 nengard        bug 6966 needs some sign offs to get in before the string freeze fyi
17:38 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6966 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, ASSIGNED , Update Help Files for Koha 3.6 Release
17:40 * cait         sendsnengard cookies
17:40 cait           if it makes you happy... I will have to translate all those!
17:40 cait           I know how it feels
17:41 cait           I can already feel it hehe
17:44 nengard        heh
17:58 jcamins        Hey, cool. I think ISTC runs on Zebra.
18:06 jcamins        thatcher_lunch: why aren't you trea anymore? :)
18:07 sekjal         jcamins:  'cause he's at lunch!
18:07 jcamins        sekjal: yeah, right after I said that, I realized my mistake.
18:08 jcamins        thatcher_lunch: why did you decide to be thatcher_lunch instead of trea_lunch? :)
18:15 herj           Hi all
18:15 herj           Anyone up for a newbie Koha question?
18:15 maximep        go ahead and i'm sure someone will answer
18:16 herj           Ok. I install koha on my ubuntu 11.04 server. The install seems to have worked. I can login to the system and change settings. However....
18:17 herj           I have been unable to add a patron. When I go to Patron and click on "add" nothing happens
18:17 herj           I am running Koha 4.02
18:18 jcamins        herj: there is no Koha 4.02.
18:18 jcamins        If you want support, you should probably install Koha, which you can get from http://koha-community.org/
18:18 herj           Hmmm
18:18 jcamins        What some people call "Koha 4.02" is actually a different program, based on Koha, from LibLime.
18:19 jcamins        (but based on an old version of Koha)
18:19 jcamins        No one here uses it, so we can't really offer advice.
18:19 herj           Ah, yes. You are correct! I will navigate there. Thank you!
18:22 leaper         Hey all. Is this the place to ask about Liblime Koha?
18:23 rangi          no, just about koha, from http://koha-community.org/
18:23 jcamins        leaper: I don't think there's anywhere to ask about LibLime Koha, sorry.
18:23 jcamins        I mean, no IRC channel. You could call them.
18:24 leaper         Bugger..
18:24 leaper         Thank you!
18:24 jcamins        If you don't have any data in your installation yet, you might want to consider installing Koha.
18:25 rangi          of course we would recommend you install actual Koha
18:25 rangi          heh, what jcamins said :)
18:25 leaper         I don't have any data yet. I have to admit that I installed liblime by accident
18:26 rangi          it seems to catch a few ppl that way unfortunately
18:26 rangi          what OS are you using?
18:26 leaper         Ubuntu Server 11.04
18:27 jcamins        Actually, regardless of whether you have data in your installation, you should probably consider it, but if you don't have data in it yet, it'll be easy. :)
18:27 rangi          cool
18:27 jcamins        leaper: yeah, you want real Koha.
18:27 jcamins        Accept no substitutes! (isn't that the tagline of a classic commercial)
18:27 jcamins        leaper: good news, installing Koha is easy on Ubuntu. :)
18:27 rangi          there is a ppa for it even
18:27 leaper         cool!
18:28 leaper         I fear removing liblime will be the bigger issue
18:28 rangi          https://launchpad.net/~koha/+archive/koha-stable
18:32 slef           hehehe me suggesting more javascript use
18:32 * slef         wanders to dinner
18:32 rangi          hehe
18:33 rangi          leaper: the packages at debian.koha-community.org should work fine on ubuntu too, they are almost identical
18:33 rangi          and there is a good guide on wiki.koha-community.org
18:33 rangi          i dunno where liblime ils stores it stuff, but you should be able to drop the db, and most likely its all in /usr/share/koha ?
18:40 leaper         thanks. I went in deleted everything I could find :) If all else fails I can wipe the system.
18:41 rangi          and nuke it from orbit
18:41 * rangi        may have watched aliens last night
18:54 JesseM         I LIKE SPACE!
18:56 rangi          NateC?
18:56 wahanui        I LIKE SPACE AND MY WIFE
18:56 rangi          JesseM?
18:56 JesseM         Hey
18:56 rangi          awww he doenst know about you
18:56 JesseM         rangi
18:56 NateC          I like turdles
18:56 rangi          cigars and frozen drinks out of a turtle
18:57 NateC          nice
18:57 JesseM         very nice!!
19:07 rangi          ok time to get up and take atarau to a bday party
19:08 rangi          back later
19:39 nengard        I'm DONE!!
19:39 nengard        help files are done
19:39 nengard        bug 6966 is ready for sign off or pushing (since it's just a copy of the manual)
19:39 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6966 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, ASSIGNED , Update Help Files for Koha 3.6 Release
20:53 dschust1       by all been nice hanging!
21:33 vorstller      new book entry not showing in OPAC?
21:34 vorstller      I'm using framework:Default
21:34 vorstller      Default
21:34 vorstller      any sugg. please
21:43 vorstller      chris_n: are u there?
21:43 vorstller      gmcharlt: are u there?
21:43 vorstller      any buddy please resolve this issue
21:47 gmcharlt       vorstller: what's up?
22:04 vorstller      gmcharlt: new book entry not showing in OPAC? any sugg.
22:05 vorstller      gmcharlt: using framework: Default
22:06 vorstller      new book entry not showing in OPAC
22:11 gmcharlt       vorstller: is rebuild_zebra.pl set up to run?
22:11 vorstller      No
22:12 vorstller      gmcharlt: no not now
22:12 vorstller      gmcharlt: how I can do that process...?
22:12 gmcharlt       well, setting it up to run (assuming you're using Zebra mode, of course) should help
22:12 gmcharlt       a couple bits from the FAQ may help
22:12 gmcharlt       http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/installingupgrading/#1
22:13 vorstller      yes i'm using Zebra mode
22:13 gmcharlt       http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/searching/#18
22:15 gmcharlt       and http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=misc/cronjobs/crontab.example;hb=HEAD has an example of what you'll need in the crontab
22:18 vorstller      gmcharlt: thanks,, let me read this FAQ , then let back to you with the result
22:34 gmcharlt       @quote random
22:34 huginn         gmcharlt: Quote #105: "* wizzyrea would like to note that you do *not* have to add good morning to all of your patches." (added by gmcharlt at 04:11 PM, November 24, 2010)
22:35 gmcharlt       ... just for the very polite ones
23:29 * cait         waves
23:48 * jcamins_away waves back
23:48 jcamins_away   Pizza is in the oven.
23:48 jcamins_away   It's not going to be my best pizza ever.
23:48 jcamins_away   I was too hungry to let it rise or anything.
23:53 jcamins_away   It should be tasty enough, though.