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23:58 wizzyrea poor pup
23:58 jcamins_away Oh no! I hope it's something with a quick recovery?
23:58 bg yeah I was up all night with a sick puppy - so I'm tired also
23:57 jcamins_away Tired. Allergy season arrived with a vengeance.
23:57 jcamins_away I'm doing pretty well.
23:57 bg how you doing?
23:56 bg ok thanks
23:56 jcamins_away bg: I think you need to edit cron.daily.
23:55 bg or do I need just edit/add to one of the crons
23:54 bg do you know the command for a package it I wanted to set long overdue.pl
23:54 bg rangi
23:49 jenkins_koha Starting build 460 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
23:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6600 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Library name linking wrong if current location is different
23:49 jenkins_koha oleonard: Fix for Bug 6600, Library name linking wrong if current location is different
23:49 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #459: SUCCESS in 47 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/459/
23:40 book_labels8 I have had a look at the documentation, but it doesn't say how to do that
23:37 wizzyrea book_labels8: have you had a look at the labels documentation? I think that it tells how to make those labels
23:37 wizzyrea (that was in regards to the barcode font size
23:36 wizzyrea but there is dev in the pipeline to allow that
23:36 wizzyrea book_labels8: unfortunately there isn't really a way to do that
23:14 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6953 - Value builder for NORMARC 007 does not show further options <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c7b77c789ee17515931e9d54a23d85234ed9e505>
23:10 mtj book_labels8: hmm, pass on that
23:05 book_labels8 Also, is there a way to increase the barcode font size?
23:03 book_labels8 Hi guys, does anyone know if you can create a custom book label with the branch name and barcode on it? Running version 3.4.2
23:02 jenkins_koha Starting build 459 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
23:02 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6268 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , Bad Total in basket.pl
23:02 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6076 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , acqui pdf error when marcxml wrong
23:02 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: BZ6268 follow-up for the form
23:02 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Bug 6268: (MT #6408) Bad Total in basket.pl
23:02 jenkins_koha * jonathan.druart: Bug 6076: acqui pdf error when marcxml wrong
23:02 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: BZ6074: setting import flag when staged file imported in aqbasket
23:02 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #458: SUCCESS in 47 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/458/
22:44 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 6600, Library name linking wrong if current location is different <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6ade95d5db2f2b6a0a2d47d53aecae26a9997243>
22:28 chris_n2 or it may have been a winders problem
22:27 chris_n2 I just hand edited those out
22:27 chris_n2 yeah
22:26 eythian it has utf-8 issues though I noticed.
22:25 rangi cool
22:24 chris_n2 saved a *bunch* of time
22:24 chris_n2 but that page I just created was based on such an export
22:24 chris_n2 yeah, it took a very small amount of cleanup
22:22 rangi oh, i didnt know that
22:22 chris_n2 libreoffice writer has a cool export to wiki option
22:19 eythian heh
22:19 chris_n2 its short for ex<plod>e
22:19 bg short skis and you can do it
22:18 chris_n2 LOL
22:18 eythian chris_n2: what's a .exe file?
22:18 eythian also impossible anywhere else :)
22:18 chris_n2 that sounds fun
22:17 eythian in that case, I plan to try skiing through a revolving door.
22:17 eythian heh
22:17 bg s/drive/driver
22:17 bg well anything is possible in india (a drive said that to me before)
22:17 chris_n2 for all of you brave people: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.4
22:17 eythian I sent mine away a week and a half ago, so it should be almost ready.
22:16 bg heh - just got mine last week
22:16 eythian nope
22:16 * eythian should chase up the status of his visa today, too
22:16 bg been to india before?
22:16 eythian sweet
22:16 bg Ah cool we are at the same place
22:15 * bg needs to look up the name again
22:15 eythian yeah, Vihang's Inn, which is where many others are staying.
22:15 jenkins_koha Starting build 458 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
22:15 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6958 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, NEW , Missing spaces in translated templates
22:15 jenkins_koha * srdjan: bug_6974: bugfix: do not create empty record before building input for new biblio
22:15 bg do you have a place you're staying yet?
22:15 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 6958 : Fix for leading spaces being stripped on translation
22:15 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #457: SUCCESS in 47 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/457/
22:15 eythian I'm usually pretty good with jet lag, also for me it'll just be staying up later :)
22:14 bg I think we'll need more time to adjust to the time difference
22:14 bg ahhh.. we're getting in two days early
22:14 eythian The night before the conference starts
22:13 bg when do you arrive?
22:13 bg awesome
22:13 eythian bg: yarp
22:13 bg eythian: you're going to india right?
22:13 rangi asleep is my guess
22:13 rangi hehe
22:13 bg where's slef - he'd have an opinion or at least tell me to watch football (non-US)
22:12 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: BZ6268 follow-up for the form <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1e16c7cbabf1b53be061d661dc02b27d4f271a3c> / Bug 6268: (MT #6408) Bad Total in basket.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0d0b3ef9c2840633ae9860b66babeba3cb453b1b>
22:12 bg I'm rooting for the tigers
22:12 bg so home field advantage
22:11 bg it's in yankee stadium
22:10 rangi the tigers?
22:10 rangi hmmm
22:09 bg so who wins tonight - the yanks or the tigers?
22:07 rangi cya cait
22:07 eythian heh cya
22:07 cait bye all
22:07 cait you are here, time to go to sleep for me :)
22:06 eythian hello cait
22:06 cait morning mr robin :)
22:06 eythian http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/musical/2011/10/10/111010crmu_music_frerejones?mbid=social_retweet <-- remember everyone, today is black metal friday
21:36 rangi :)
21:35 * cait cheers
21:32 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6076: acqui pdf error when marcxml wrong <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1f0e3d7a4ba5265e586c0f940c46a63d04ab1e3f> / BZ6074: setting import flag when staged file imported in aqbasket <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b5a3f485ab861b1d0330d1c4a3c4d17ba97f4863>
21:28 cait sekjal++
21:28 cait night sekjal
21:27 sekjal night, all
21:27 jenkins_koha Starting build 457 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
21:27 sekjal but for now, I rest
21:27 sekjal more QAing to follow
21:27 jenkins_koha srdjan: bug_6770: removed doubled override increment when using AllowHoldPolicyOverride
21:27 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #456: SUCCESS in 48 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/456/
21:27 sekjal testplans++
21:23 rangi it makes life a lot easier
21:23 * rangi really appreciates the testplans on the bugs he has been pushing
21:12 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: bug_6974: bugfix: do not create empty record before building input for new biblio <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4c1ea37e6366fc7a17ece602f73de4d7ebfbd279>
21:08 rangi heya bg :)
21:08 cait hi bg :)
21:07 bg HA
21:03 rangi always int he shadows
21:03 rangi that jesse
20:59 rangi trying to do ccl, in a half arsed fashion
20:59 rangi it all stems from us
20:59 rangi thats it
20:58 trea ya that looks like it
20:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1807 blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , ':' character blocks search ; search () give odd results
20:58 trea bug 1807? perhaps
20:57 rangi there are some bugs about that
20:57 trea anyone recall a bug about doing a search with parens returning no results?
20:56 * chris_n2 remembers when he thought his TI-990 was fast along with its whopping 28k of memory
20:55 chris_n2 and lots of junk running in the background
20:55 chris_n2 its an old, old pentium4 with maybe 2GB of memory
20:55 trea ;)
20:54 chris_n2 not on this box ;-)
20:54 * trea wonders if virtual box on WinXP running a debian VM is faster
20:54 * chris_n2 suspects its the low end hardware he's running
20:53 chris_n2 it is slooooooow as cold molasses, however
20:53 * Brooke cheers Chris squared.
20:53 chris_n2 well, I decided to keep notes this time
20:53 * Brooke has a one track mind.
20:53 cait yay!
20:52 Brooke no I think it's a stellar addition to the cheevo system :P
20:52 chris_n2 Brooke: you really want one?
20:52 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6958 : Fix for leading spaces being stripped on translation <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=873091dcc84de8856a1da936ab0045351273cc53>
20:52 chris_n2 lol
20:52 Brooke can we have one of those?
20:51 Brooke oooh
20:51 rangi well done
20:51 rangi chris_n2: you win the persistent bugger badge :-)
20:51 * Brooke assualts rangi with E Papa Waiari
20:51 rangi this will get rid of it
20:51 rangi http://grooveshark.com/#/s/Ghosts+n+Stuff/3HJOrj?src=5
20:50 chris_n2 for anyone who's interested: http://imageshack.us/f/5/kohatrunkonwin32.jpg/
20:50 rangi "out you demon song, out"
20:50 * rangi whacks his head
20:50 rangi now its stuck in my brain
20:50 trea iknorite
20:50 rangi we gotta move these colour tvs
20:50 trea Brooke: reminds me a Dire Straits song
20:43 cait !huginn botsnack blister cream(?)
20:42 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: bug_6770: removed doubled override increment when using AllowHoldPolicyOverride <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d388acd4825c7befb98438315a6ff8acd21cbbd9>
20:41 rangi heh
20:41 Brooke jenkins gonna get blisters on his bot fingers.
20:39 rangi one of many builds today i think
20:39 jenkins_koha Starting build 456 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
20:17 nengard be back
20:17 nengard must go - hubby says so - need to do my exercises cause i'm feeling tight
20:17 Brooke that many lines = naval class swearing.
20:17 nengard :)
20:17 nengard oh
20:16 Brooke just looking at the template toolkit dependency
20:16 nengard Brooke what's up?
20:16 nengard :)
20:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6689 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Improve styling of table pager
20:16 nengard sekjal signed off on bug 6689
20:16 nengard oleonard signed off
20:16 Brooke holy mf
20:15 * oleonard is not disappointed
20:15 * oleonard scrolls down expectantly to 5917
20:14 trea oleonard++
20:14 cait oleonard++
20:14 cait oh
20:14 gmcharlt sekjal: and for the ultimate view - http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/showdependencygraph.cgi?id=5917&display=doall&rankdir=LR
20:13 oleonard trea: span.results_summary.actions { display : none; }
20:12 oleonard nengard: Or vice-versa. They don't conflict.
20:12 sekjal gmcharlt: I'm thrilled by this
20:11 nengard so i apply that first and then this
20:11 nengard well that would be it :)
20:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6616 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Move common table pager markup to include
20:11 oleonard nengard: It depends on the patch for Bug 6616
20:11 nengard other ideas?
20:11 nengard oleonard 6689 - i applied and shift refreshed and don't see a difference
20:10 gmcharlt sekjal: for even more fun, http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/showdependencygraph.cgi?id=5917
20:10 rangi for all the others
20:10 rangi the way it works it will fall back to english
20:10 rangi and put the changed template in theer
20:10 rangi a 'language'
20:09 rangi is make a language
20:09 sekjal gmcharlt: nice!
20:09 cait rangi: yeah, make me feel bad about my newest project :P
20:09 rangi a trick you can use
20:09 rangi But
20:09 cait trea: very easy with jquery probably
20:09 rangi yeah changing templates for local use = bad, wrong and evil
20:09 trea ^^
20:09 cait that's the art :)
20:09 cait Brooke: I think without changing the templates
20:09 Brooke /* */
20:09 gmcharlt sekjal: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/showdependencygraph.cgi?id=6070
20:08 cait hm not so easy with css i think
20:08 Brooke why not comment it out initially so you don't break summat accidentally
20:06 trea how do you hide this?
20:06 trea i think this is a CSS question possibly: There is a span class "Actions" per-item in the search results. This is the HTML <span class="label">Actions:</span>
20:06 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6689] Improve styling of table pager <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6689>
20:03 nengard i'll see what i can add to the manual
20:03 nengard thanks cait
20:02 Brooke kia ora
20:02 cait or zebra deactivated, whatever :)
20:01 cait when you update from koha with nozebra activated
20:01 cait but people are still using it
20:01 cait nengard: we ar enot offering it on new installs
20:01 nengard cait i thought nozebra was deprecated ? am i wrong?
19:59 sekjal s/of/for/
19:59 sekjal cool idea of bugs.k-c.org: get the Dependency Graphs working
19:57 cait nengard: or presenting for me
19:57 cait only when you are still running nozebra i guess
19:55 nengard oleonard i hate that - that's what training is like for me
19:54 nengard for tom's email - QueryRemoveStopwords - does it do anything anymore?
19:48 cait some days it feels like everything falls apart that you touch
19:48 cait I know that feeling
19:48 oleonard Seems like I usually discover at least one bug for each bug I fix or sign off on
19:46 cait filing more bugs than resolving?
19:45 * oleonard wonders if we'll hit 7000 bugs before GBSD is over
19:41 cait reports like bugs or mistakes they find
19:41 cait as an option to get it included
19:41 wahanui a wiki page is probably broken again.
19:41 cait or a wiki page?
19:41 cait perhaps tell them to put text and reports on bugzilla?
19:40 nengard is that the one who found my mistakes?
19:40 oleonard Oh sure, get all technical with them.
19:36 rangi if you do it on the main list, we may even get more ppl :)
19:36 rangi show even
19:36 rangi nengard: you should should tom how to submit patches for documentation
19:34 cait at least on my new laptop :)
19:34 rangi well, ill give a couple of hours leeway
19:34 cait ah,it's not that much, it runs pretty fast
19:34 cait not my time zone?
19:34 cait utc?
19:34 rangi yeah, it only takes about 5 mins to run
19:34 cait run perl translate update somelanguagecode
19:34 cait take a complete po file
19:33 cait you hve
19:33 sekjal it sure would be nice if we had a readily accessible way of checking if a submitted patch introduces new strings
19:33 rangi which is 24:00 UTC October 8
19:33 rangi before string freeze
19:32 cait it's still possible
19:32 rangi then its got a couple of days
19:32 nengard but it made it in before the feature freeze
19:32 cait but nice
19:32 cait if it changes the template it will cause fuzzys
19:32 oleonard It certainly introduces template changes, probably new strings
19:32 cait probably
19:32 rangi does it introduce any new strings?
19:31 nengard it's NICE
19:31 nengard oleonard i hope so - i love that feature
19:30 trea ah, the energy drinks
19:29 cait I was wondering about the hummingbird
19:29 wahanui cait is kf or a programmer or really sweet or a source of great chocolate or the purveyor of an infinite supply of virtual cookies or not sure we need the page(s)... but that might just be me or Ms. Cait to you.
19:29 trea cait?
19:29 cait trea?
19:29 rangi its still fair game at this point oleonard
19:28 rangi hehe
19:27 * trea hovers
19:27 trea WOOO! I'm a hummingbird!
19:27 * rangi may have had too much energy drink this morning
19:27 sekjal HTML_comment++
19:27 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6483 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, salva, ASSIGNED , Paging in opac-detail when coming from a search
19:27 * oleonard wonders if Bug 6483 will make it in... haven't checked it in a while
19:27 oleonard heh
19:26 rangi its not used enough imho
19:26 rangi marquee
19:26 oleonard HTMl comment?
19:26 cait span?
19:26 cait hm, why div?
19:26 rangi yeah hiddent div would be fine
19:25 sekjal move to a hidden dev or an HTML attribute? for debugging purposes?
19:25 trea +1
19:25 rangi +1
19:25 nengard +1
19:25 cait +1 for removing
19:25 cait I had complaints about that too
19:25 rangi cos its about as useful to a borrower
19:25 cait hehe
19:25 nengard hehe
19:25 trea rangi++
19:25 trea ^^^
19:24 rangi ah:asa:aiwdh111!#$
19:24 rangi i vote we replace it with
19:24 rangi thats dumb on the opac
19:24 nengard :)
19:24 rangi trea: no, but we should
19:24 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6984 critical, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Holds Statistics Doesn't Work
19:24 nengard Bug 6984 reported
19:24 wahanui i already had it that way, trea.
19:24 trea reposting: in the Opac Search results, there is a little bit in the breadcrumbs div that says "kw,wrdl:<your search term>" - can you hide the "kw,wrdl:" bit?
19:23 rangi i guess i know what im doing today
19:23 rangi hmm 19 passed qa
19:22 nengard okay bug report
19:22 nengard on my system and a production system
19:22 nengard exactly what i found
19:22 oleonard I'm guessing broken.
19:22 oleonard nengard: I just tried it on our production system which should have lots of data. No results.
19:22 rangi :)
19:22 oleonard ^ adding to the pile
19:21 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6983] Item type filter on overdues report does not respect item-level_itypes preference <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6983>
19:19 nengard i have asked this before, but i'm trying again - has anyone gotten results from the holds statistics report - ever? cause I never have ? I don't have a help file for this one cause I've never seen it work
19:14 rangi heh
19:14 nengard oops scared him away
19:13 rhcl_MLA gotta go...
19:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6966 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, ASSIGNED , Update Help Files for Koha 3.6 Release
19:13 nengard lots of easy sign offs needed on bug 6966
19:12 rhcl_MLA thought
19:12 rhcl_MLA though that was a garble for "them" :)
19:12 rangi walter wrote kete, and still works on it
19:12 rhcl_MLA ah, ok
19:12 rangi wtem
19:12 rhcl_MLA send who a tweet?
19:11 rangi send wtem a tweet
19:11 rhcl_MLA only when I have to
19:10 rangi do you use twitter?
19:10 rangi catalyst dont no
19:09 rhcl_MLA does anyone (Catalyst?) support Kete?
19:09 rhcl_MLA also the Midwest Geneological Center at Mid-Continent Public Library
19:09 rangi cool
19:08 rhcl_MLA The Missouri State Historical Society is apparently considering starting to use it, and wanted input from others.
19:07 rangi heh
19:07 rhcl_MLA The attendees were really impressed that I could name-drop "Joann" and "Rangi"
19:07 rangi were there some ppl using it there?
19:06 rangi cool
19:06 rhcl_MLA we just had a table talk discussion about Kete here at the Missouri Library Association annual conference
19:05 rangi sorry was getting off the bus
19:02 wizzyrea thought i might have some time to hang out
19:02 wizzyrea ugh gotta go again
19:02 rhcl_MLA wish Joann was online...
19:01 rhcl_MLA They had lots of questions about using Kete w/ Koha, et al
19:01 wahanui interesting is good
19:01 wizzyrea interesting
19:01 rhcl_MLA It seems there is some interest by the Mo State Gen. Lib. about starting to use Kete
19:00 wizzyrea ah
19:00 rhcl_MLA I'm here at MLA, and just attended a table talk about Kete. Rebecca Hammond from Lawerence PL was at the talk.
18:59 rhcl_MLA what the heck...will resend
18:59 trea noice
18:59 rhcl_MLA hey hey rebecca Hammond here from Lawrence PL too, so met her
18:58 rhcl_MLA hey hey
18:58 wizzyrea trea - probably
18:58 wizzyrea sup rhcl
18:58 huginn rhcl_MLA: wizzyrea was last seen in #koha 2 hours, 10 minutes, and 53 seconds ago: * wizzyrea never went, but knew people who did
18:58 rhcl_MLA @seen wizzyrea
18:58 huginn rhcl_MLA: rangi was last seen in #koha 8 minutes and 15 seconds ago: <rangi> sweet
18:58 rhcl_MLA @seen rangi
18:58 trea ok, in the Opac Search results, there is a little bit in the breadcrumbs div that says "kw,wrdl:<your search term>" - can you hide the "kw,wrdl:" bit?
18:57 huginn rhcl_MLA: I have not seen everybody.
18:57 rhcl_MLA @seen everybody
18:57 huginn rhcl_MLA: joann was last seen in #koha 22 weeks, 0 days, 13 hours, 47 minutes, and 1 second ago: <joann> night all
18:57 rhcl_MLA @seen joann
18:56 huginn rhcl_MLA: I have not seen joanne.
18:56 rhcl_MLA @seen joanne
18:55 rhcl_MLA ping rangi
18:55 rhcl_MLA ping wizzyrea
18:50 rangi sweet
18:48 maximep yeah we keep everything in their branch
18:45 rangi so when u are allowed easy to send
18:45 rangi I guess main thing is try to keep them rebase on their own branches
18:44 maximep at least we can send bug fixes. Better than nothing, I guess
18:42 sekjal maximep: sorry to hear you had to pull patches. hopefully they'll be in a place where you can distribute them again soon
18:41 sekjal lol
18:40 rangi you can?
18:40 cait so you can't?
18:39 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6980] Existing extended patron attributes are shown on patron screens even when ExtendedPatronAttributes is disabled <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6980>
18:39 rangi we write our contracts so we can't, but u can't go back in time
18:39 rangi *nod* others have got into that situation before
18:38 maximep hard to explain
18:38 cait perhaps you should change your strategy there
18:38 cait ?
18:38 maximep so that means probably a few months
18:38 maximep they have to have the features before we can send them
18:38 maximep clients
18:37 rangi not tech issues eh? client ones?
18:37 cait one of my favourites too it seems
18:37 cait :(
18:37 rangi ohhh crappy
18:34 maximep :/
18:34 maximep because turns out we should not have sent them
18:34 maximep lots of patches we had to change the status
18:34 maximep well it's not for me
18:34 rangi lots passing qa
18:33 rangi heh no its good noise
18:33 maximep probably my fault :/
18:32 rangi thats noisy :)
18:32 rangi the bugs list isn't
18:31 chris_n its awful quiet in here
18:22 * oleonard will brb
18:22 cait :)
18:21 trea ty ty
18:21 trea cait++
18:21 cait $("option[value='callnum']").hide();
18:20 cait sec
18:20 cait hm
18:19 trea right
18:19 cait masthead - simple search in opac?
18:19 cait hm
18:18 cait let me take a look
18:14 trea no luck, i'll keep fiddlin
18:12 trea lemme try that
18:12 sekjal $("select[name='idx'].contains("Call Number")).hide(); ?
18:10 trea was trying to use $("select[name='idx'] option:sixth").hide(); but that's no bueno
18:10 trea any ideas how to hide the CallNumber in the masthead search via jquery?
18:09 huginn sekjal: The operation succeeded.
18:09 sekjal @later tell magnuse what's the NORMARC equivalent of MARC21's 773 or UNIMARC's 461? Host Item Entry
18:09 huginn sekjal: Error: I haven't seen later, I'll let you do the telling.
18:09 sekjal @tell later magnuse what's the NORMARC equivalent of MARC21's 773 or UNIMARC's 461? Host Item Entry
17:15 Danielle It was with the hiring manager who directly said he was going to have me in for an interview with the whole team.
17:14 Danielle Thanks.
17:14 cait grats :)
17:13 Danielle First-round job interview went well.
17:13 * Danielle has good news today.
17:13 Danielle No problem.
17:13 Danielle I see how I rate. ;)
17:12 cait hi Danielle - sorry, wrong sequence
17:10 cait morning rangi :)
17:10 rangi morning
17:09 wahanui hello, Danielle
17:08 Danielle Hi
17:08 cait hi all
16:49 * oleonard saw the very first incarnation when it was in Chicago (or nearby anyway)
16:47 * wizzyrea never went, but knew people who did
16:47 wizzyrea lollapalooza was a big deal for us teens of the 90's
16:47 * paul_p learned something today
16:46 wahanui okay, wizzyrea.
16:46 wizzyrea QA-palooza is also a play on the Lollapalooza music festival
16:46 sekjal http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lollapalooza
16:45 wizzyrea QA-palooza is a festival of looking at patches and a generally joyous expression of testing
16:45 paul_p sekjal: QA-palooza ???
16:44 paul_p QA-palooza ???
16:44 paul_p mantra for today : sekjal-6328-sekjal-6328-sekjal-6328-sekjal-6328-sekjal-6328-sekjal-6328- ;-)
16:43 sekjal next few weeks will be QA-palooza
16:43 sekjal paul_p: awesome, thanks!
16:42 paul_p sekjal: excatly 37 patches QAed this afternoon, from 71 that were pending. I'll continue tomorrow. If you can QA the BibLibre ones i'll be thankfull !
16:16 ropuch I wonder if they have similar customization in stuff interface
16:14 ropuch You mean ping response? ;>
16:14 paul_p (by train or car, no airlines)
16:14 paul_p the only bad side : Marseille <=> Limoges = 7Hours !!!
16:13 paul_p (all of them being BibLibre customers)
16:13 paul_p Add Limoges history museum & a CNRS research laboratory, Limoges is a 100% Koha city ;-)
16:13 ropuch Nice nice
16:13 paul_p in the french design, you'll notice : "Catalogue BfM". It's the public library of Limoges. And you know what, they use Koha too ;-)
16:11 oleonard ...but warn them that this is a custom template ropuch, with all the future upgrade issues which come along with custom templates
16:10 ropuch Bookmarked, I'll show it to students as an example how can you further customzie Koha [;
16:10 wizzyrea yea I like that a lot actually
16:09 ropuch :)
16:09 oleonard Very nice design, it should be seen by English speakers too! :)
16:09 paul_p (as I see french by default ;-) )
16:08 sekjal paul_p: ah
16:08 paul_p sekjal: I know it's language auto-detect, what I missed is that their design was only in french !
16:08 wizzyrea well it's pretty anyway
16:08 sekjal browser language auto-detect
16:08 * paul_p will warn our project manager immediately !
16:08 paul_p yikes ! strange ! they worked directly in fr-FR scope ! silly they !
16:08 sekjal ooooooh
16:08 nengard very puuurty
16:07 wizzyrea oh puuurty
16:07 wizzyrea *nod*
16:07 oleonard Switch to French to see their design
16:07 wizzyrea ty
16:07 oleonard http://catalogue.unilim.fr/
16:07 nengard so that others can benefit from it
16:07 nengard awesome! well you can translate the XML and submit the translation to the docs list
16:07 oleonard paul_p: Maybe not a whole translation, but because I was shown the English version automatically I didn't see their design
16:06 ropuch nengard: I'm thinking about translating some parts of it, so i reached for the source [;
16:06 wizzyrea oleonard - link?
16:06 paul_p & i'm not sure they're interested in translating into english. Limoges is a small city, a small university, maybe they don't have english native students.
16:06 ropuch Oh, sure I can
16:06 nengard ropuch can you not read the manual that's online in HTML already?
16:05 wizzyrea there's a linux tool docbook2html
16:05 paul_p hi oleonard, yep, they have a fully customised/local set of templates. We've explained the pain they'll face, they are ready to face it !
16:05 wizzyrea right
16:05 ropuch wizzyrea: and then I need to generate some html-or-whatever from the xml to see "readable" version of manual?
16:05 oleonard paul_p: Université de Limoges is using a custom template? They need to duplicate it for English speakers too!
16:04 wizzyrea yay!
16:04 JoeLib001 Awesome! :-) Thanks wizzyrea. I edited the Framework and changed TOPIC_TERM to nothing in the Thesauras option for the 690 field.
15:59 wizzyrea there are some open source ones
15:59 wizzyrea so you'd probably want a docbook editor
15:59 wizzyrea it's in docbook format
15:59 wizzyrea you mean, how to edit it?
15:59 ropuch How can I properly view manual.xml from kohadocs?
15:58 wizzyrea sorry to be so in and out - i'm at a workshop today
15:58 wizzyrea that or you need to modify your framework to make sure the 690 field doesn't require authority
15:57 JoeLib001 heading, BiblioAddsAuthorities must be turned on." Would that mean it would remove the lock and let me add the subjects I want?
15:57 JoeLib001 record without being *required* to open a popup window for each
15:57 JoeLib001 I found this statement. "In order for a cataloger to be able to add or edit a heading in the bib
15:55 reiveune bye
15:51 ropuch wizzyrea: kk
15:51 wizzyrea it ends when the last time zone leaves the 8th ;)
15:51 JoeLib001 They are not standard subjects as far as I can tell. I will be pulling from them to create an alphabetical list by subject of my collection. I am in the process of moving our Serials from EOS Glas to Koha and that is one of the things I am supposed to make functional.
15:51 nengard making good progress
15:51 ropuch wizzyrea: what time zone is this 8th? ;>
15:51 nengard will get it done this week then
15:50 nengard okay
15:50 nengard aka how long do i have to write help files ?. OH CRAP
15:50 wizzyrea 8th
15:50 nengard when is the string freeze?
15:48 JoeLib001 I have a list of subjects that I need to assign to each of my records. Should I be creating an authority record for each subject?
15:46 wizzyrea i guess I didn't know what was broken about it
15:46 wizzyrea ok
15:46 wizzyrea ?
15:46 cait in case you wondered :)
15:46 cait wizzyrea: rangi fixed the blog entry
15:45 wizzyrea lemme see if I can find the proper bit of the docs... sec
15:45 wizzyrea naw, not inept :)
15:45 JoeLib001 I hate to sound totally inept, but I really don't know. :-)
15:43 wizzyrea you probably have an authority on for it?
15:42 JoeLib001 I am trying to add a local subject in the 690 field, but the a field is locked. Anyone know what I should be doinng?
15:05 wizzyrea hi druthb :D
15:04 * druthb waves to wizzyrea!
14:57 * wizzyrea got distracted looking at the quotes generated by bugzilla
14:43 * oleonard hates configuring Apache so much... So many places for something to go wrong...
14:40 kf and I am really short on time this week
14:40 kf wajasu: I am not sure how this can be tested
14:39 wajasu it might just be that i'm running on archlinux and something in the character food chain is gumming up the works.
14:38 wajasu maybe its a mysql setting or perl thing. my only option is to set up a vm with debian and compare. i'm interested in knowing if your mysql db has C3BC in the author field as comment 16 mentioned.
14:24 kf weird
14:24 kf hm
14:23 wajasu kf: i created a new book with Jürgen in the author field and printed the barcode label and got two chars. no umlaut.
14:12 oleonard Working with the tabs is tricky because it's an old jqueryUI version. They seemed to change the syntax for that with every upgrade for a while
14:12 kf oleonard++ :)
14:11 gmcharlt oleonard++
14:11 druthb oleonard++
14:11 druthb That's got it!
14:10 oleonard }
14:10 oleonard $('#header_search > ul').tabs('select', 1);
14:10 oleonard if($("#authority_search").length > 0){
14:09 gmcharlt doh, /me was looking at the wrong thig
14:08 oleonard You can also say $('#header_search > ul').tabs('select', 1); , but then you have to figure out how to only trigger it on that page
14:08 druthb $("#main_heading").removeAttr("ui-tabs-hide");
14:08 druthb $("#authority_search").attr("ui-tabs-hide");
14:08 druthb Tried this, and that doesn't fly, either:
14:07 druthb oh-hoh.
14:07 gmcharlt the selected attribute is, well, an attribute, not a class
14:07 gmcharlt druthb: .removeAttr/.attr ?
14:02 druthb oh, absolutely!
14:02 kf tonight ok?
14:02 druthb They're not freaking about it, but would like to get it done and off my plate.
14:01 kf druthb: how urgent do you need it?
14:01 kf hmmm
13:58 * druthb is hoping for a jQuery god or goddess: On the main Authorities screen, one site wants to default that to "search main heading". I've tried using .addClass/.removeClass, but it doesn't appear to be working. Anyone played with that one?
13:57 druthb o/
13:50 kf perhaps copying umlauts from wikipedia or somewhere else?
13:50 kf have you tried creating a new record and printing that?
13:50 kf wajasu: I am not sure when i fill find time to test - i am sorry
13:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2246 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, cnighswonger, NEW , Label printing doesn't work with Unicode characters
13:49 wajasu can someone verify the behavior of diacritics not printing in barcode labels as I am trying to understand if its only true for my system. see bug 2246 comment 16. it seems to work for kf, but not for me unless i apply my patch.
13:35 nengard thanks!
13:35 nengard :)
13:34 nengard gmcharlt chrony is working
13:34 nengard +1
13:34 Danielle \0
13:34 * oleonard votes to pass 5459
13:34 nengard let me do it one more time
13:34 nengard and i did do the update
13:34 nengard no backports
13:33 gmcharlt sekjal: glad to help - looks like the term to google if you're using another host would be "time warp", believe it or not
13:33 gmcharlt if that does help, an alternative to to apt-get install chrony
13:32 gmcharlt if it doesn't, add it, then do an apt-get update
13:32 gmcharlt deb http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports squeeze-backports main
13:32 gmcharlt e.g., a line like this
13:32 gmcharlt first, see if your /etc/apt/sources.list contains backports
13:32 gmcharlt nengard: couple things
13:32 sekjal gmcharlt: that looks like a good starting place, thank you!
13:31 nengard gmcharlt - any other idaes on my time thing?
13:31 nengard brb
13:31 nengard now i have to open the door for coda cause she doesn't seem to understand that mommy doesn't like her fingers to freeze off!!!
13:30 nengard there you go
13:30 NateC and I LOVE MY WIFE
13:30 nengard I'm gonna tell!!
13:30 NateC bahahhahah
13:30 nengard you're in trouble ;)
13:30 nengard oooooo
13:30 NateC your right I love space :)
13:29 nengard better be more than like!!
13:29 NateC well, I do :)
13:29 NateC HA
13:28 nengard LOL
13:28 wahanui I LIKE SPACE AND MY WIFE
13:28 sekjal NateC?
13:28 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6616] Move common table pager markup to include <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6616>
13:28 gmcharlt Koha ... In ... Spaaaaaace!
13:28 nengard :)
13:27 oleonard sekjal: Your other option is to leave your VM on Earth and accelerate away at near the speed of light
13:26 gmcharlt sekjal: http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch09.html#warpguest looks interesting
13:25 nengard after an update it still gives me the same error message
13:24 nengard 6.0
13:24 gmcharlt /etc/debian_version will tell
13:24 nengard how do i find out?
13:24 nengard i know i should know that ?
13:23 gmcharlt also, which version of Debian?
13:23 gmcharlt nengard: try an apt-get update, then the apt-get install openntpd
13:19 nengard gmcharlt "Package openntpd is not available, but is referred to by another package."
13:18 nengard thanks gmcharlt trying now
13:18 sekjal perferrably much less
13:18 sekjal I'd like to be able to collect a year's worth of simulated data in a less than year
13:18 sekjal gmcharlt: yes, serious. I want to run usage simulations, but I'm impatient
13:16 gmcharlt sekjal: serious question? I suppose advancing the system clock with a cronjob could simulate it, at least roughly
13:15 gmcharlt nengard: to expand, 'sudo apt-get install openntpd' will do what you want
13:15 oleonard Gotta Inception up that VM
13:14 sekjal so one hour in the real world is a day on the VM's clock
13:13 sekjal gmcharlt (or anyone else): how about running a VM in accelerated time?
13:13 gmcharlt nengard: ntpd
13:13 sekjal nengard: marking a hold as 'waiting' with multiple borrowers entries is a bit problematic
13:12 * oleonard is not being helpful, is just muttering
13:11 * oleonard would think it would already be configured to do so automatically...
13:10 nengard linux experts, is there a way to set up my debian VM to get the right date and time everytime it restarts? automatically?
13:09 nengard brb
13:09 nengard and hols that are waiting and in transit
13:09 nengard i tested with item level holds and next available holds
13:08 nengard k
13:08 sekjal will try filling some holds, see how that affects it
13:08 sekjal yes, that's good
13:08 nengard :) that's a good thing ? right?
13:08 sekjal nengard: hmm... I can't seem to produce a kaboom by perturbing the list order
13:08 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6466] hung socket read causes SIP tests to fail <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6466> / [Bug 6817] In overdue.pl, downloading the overdues as a file ignores the filters if the page isn't in english. <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6817> / [Bug 6977] Support for repeated subfields when importing an authority into a biblio record field. <http://bugs.koha-community.o
13:08 nengard sekjal so it fails?
13:07 oleonard You're a regular Kevin Spacey gmcharlt.
13:07 gmcharlt oleonard: negotiations have successfully concluded
13:06 gmcharlt cool
13:06 paul_p gmcharlt: ok, works
13:06 gmcharlt does is still not work for you?
13:06 sekjal and if that's duplicated.... kaboom
13:06 gmcharlt paul_p: I checked, bugzilla works for me
13:06 sekjal (borrowernumber, biblionumber) is the only key we've got
13:05 sekjal the holds list for that title will have weirdness if a borrower is on there twice
13:05 nengard that was one test i didn't do
13:05 nengard WOO HOO
13:05 sekjal however
13:05 sekjal nengard: the merge works even if a borrower's got a hold on both titles
13:03 huginn gmcharlt: Quote #153: "<rangi> merging code in git doesn't make me angry, I just think back to svn and cvs, and git could punch me in the face and it would still be better" (added by gmcharlt at 07:49 PM, September 13, 2011)
13:03 gmcharlt @quote random
13:02 gmcharlt paul_p: it's also running on a linode .. so possible
13:02 paul_p is it me or bugzilla must be freed like huginn ?
13:00 sekjal but, if a borrower happens to have a hold on both records being merged together....
13:00 oleonard I sent gmcharlt a briefcase of unmarked bills
13:00 sekjal testing now
12:59 nengard no no no :(
12:54 sekjal I think 5459 may have yet another issue
12:51 oleonard Find gmcharlt I think
12:51 nengard how do we get huginn back?
12:50 nengard bug 6210 signed off
12:48 sekjal oleonard: thanks for test 6974. passed QA
12:45 magnuse yay, thanks sekjal!
12:45 sekjal magnuse: 6953 passed QA
12:43 magnuse http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6953 is a real simple one, just adding one character and only affects normarc, hint, hint ;-)
12:40 nengard and has ben tested like 8 times :)
12:39 sekjal could be improved when we finally get reservenumber primary key added to the table, but until then, uses the best logic we have
12:39 sekjal 5459 looks good (reading the code)
12:37 nengard :)
12:37 nengard for those on facebook - who love dogs: http://www.facebook.com/nengard/posts/132289780205791
12:36 nengard kf bug 6981
12:35 nengard kf, i don't have branchcode on my barcode ? i'm going to report a new bug
12:34 sekjal that may be independent of this particular fix, but it'd be worth noting
12:33 sekjal oleonard: do updates to the leader save correctly?
12:32 nengard thanks kf
12:32 nengard sekjal go to QAing it :) hehe
12:31 nengard bug 5459 signed off finally :)
12:31 nengard wooo hoooo
12:31 kf 5659 looks like my candidate
12:31 oleonard sekjal: it's clear that the auto-fill works again on blank records. Anything else you think I should check? Side-effects?
12:31 kf nengard: try a search for ALL autobarcode in bugzila
12:31 sekjal cool; logically, it does what my testing did, so I think it'll work
12:30 oleonard Yup, testing now
12:30 sekjal http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6974
12:30 sekjal oleonard: got a proposed patch from Srdjan on bug 6974
12:29 magnuse ouch
12:29 oleonard Now we know what it will feel like after the robot rebellion
12:28 * kf misses huginn so much
12:28 magnuse gah
12:28 magnuse @karma git_bz
12:28 kf nengard: hmm. let me check
12:28 kf git_bz++
12:28 oleonard huginn left and took gmcharlt with him (or perhaps vice versa)
12:27 nengard any idea on the bug number?
12:27 nengard kf, i'm on master as of 3 min ago ? but it's still not working
12:27 oleonard It's huginn we're missing
12:27 nengard love git bz!!
12:27 sekjal marking as Passed QA
12:27 paul_p very handy to test a patch !
12:26 sekjal paul_p: yup, that looks pretty straight forward
12:26 * paul_p is a fan of "git bz" !
12:26 kf and I think the plugins in serials have problems
12:26 kf nengard: I think there were some fixed about that - I have seen problesm with branchcode + incremented value
12:26 kf hm no wahanui?
12:26 nengard is there a bug report for the item barcode not incrementing anymore? or is it just my system?
12:25 kf bug 6076
12:25 paul_p the patch is trivial, but it fixes a "normal" bug
12:25 paul_p for example 6076
12:24 sekjal :)
12:24 sekjal I was being literal
12:24 sekjal ah
12:23 paul_p well, some are not marked trivial but are in fact
12:22 sekjal yes, but only two of those are marked 'trivial'
12:22 paul_p sekjal: I don't understand = "Only two trivial bugs that are signed off right now:". I see 71 bugs signed-off & waiting QA !
12:22 sekjal paul_p: yes
12:21 paul_p sekjal: around ?
12:00 nengard Brooke
12:00 Brooke nengard
11:58 kf yes :)
11:57 jcamins_away That would be impressive.
11:56 chris_n almost
11:56 chris_n well
11:56 chris_n a few changes and it "should" be a simple as doing an install on *nix
11:55 Brooke noice
11:55 * chris_n nearly has koha from master running on win32 again, fwiw
11:24 Brooke 0/
11:19 ropuch I'm not so sure ;>
11:19 Brooke which is much better than me :D
11:19 Brooke I bet you remember half the alphabet at least
11:19 Brooke you prolly have the same issues I have with Italian occasionally.
11:19 ropuch It's been so long time ago I hardly remember anything
11:18 ropuch Yup
11:18 Brooke some of it is the same :)
11:18 Brooke it should
11:18 ropuch Closely reminds me of my sanskrit courses ;>
11:11 Brooke http://www.ukindia.com/zhin001.htm
11:08 sekjal kia ore, magnuse kf
11:07 kf hi sekjal :)
11:07 magnuse kia ora sekjal
11:06 sekjal howdy, Brooke
11:06 Brooke ahoy sekjal
10:55 Brooke guten morgen!
10:55 kf hi Brooke
10:55 kf vacation?
10:53 Brooke God morgen.
10:53 magnuse oh no, where's huginn?
10:53 ropuch \o/
10:53 magnuse \o
10:52 Brooke 0/
10:51 magnuse @later tell wizzyrea: can you add owen as bug wrangler here? http://koha-community.org/koha-3-8-0-release-team-elected/
10:49 * kf cheers
10:40 magnuse well, it's October 7th in the timezone of your choice, and if you choose kiribati it started 40 minutes ago, to be precise
10:39 magnuse ;-)
10:39 ropuch I mean gbsd of course ;>
10:38 magnuse but gbsd started 38 minutes ago
10:38 magnuse nah, it's a never ending quest, of course...
10:36 ropuch So bug squashing officialy started 35 minutes ago? ;>
10:33 magnuse it's on! (in kiribati) http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/2011-10-07_Global_bug_squashing_day
10:26 magnuse guten tag kf
10:26 kf hi magnuse :)
10:16 magnuse for me too, thanks
10:15 sophie_m1 it works for me magnuse
10:06 magnuse bugzilla down?
07:28 alex_a :)
07:28 kf and hi alex_a :)
07:28 alex_a kf: o/
07:28 kf hi marcelr :)
07:28 marcelr hi kf
07:27 kf good morning #koha
07:27 hdl thanks for your involvement.
07:25 marcelr hi paul_P
07:25 clrh_ hello
07:25 paul_p hi marcelr & welcome to the Koha team as QA assistant !
07:23 wahanui salut, julian_m
07:23 julian_m hi wahanui
07:23 wahanui salut, julian_m
07:23 julian_m hello
07:20 marcelr morning koha
07:13 christophe_c hello all
07:12 paul_p hello magnuse
07:11 magnuse kia ora hdl and paul_p
06:58 wajasu is what I've described in Bug2246 not really exists for others?
06:55 wajasu So currently i see C3BC in the labels, and get two characters in my PDF. Is that what others get? C3BC in the PDF? or do you get F9, which maps to the latin1 ü just fine.
06:52 wajasu in the DB.
06:52 wajasu like '3BC%'; to see lines like: Moltmann, Jürgen. | 4D6F6C746D616E6E2C204AC3BC7267656E2E | 17
06:52 wajasu i do: select author,HEX(author),CHAR_LENGTH(author) from biblio where HEX(author)
06:50 wajasu oh, and whether the label showed ü or two other characters instead.
06:49 wajasu i'm trying to ascertain if there is something up with my barcode label printing. could someone search for a author Jürgen and print a barcode label to pdf. then using a hex editor (or od -x -c the.pdf | less) see if the ü is C3BC or F9?
06:49 reiveune hi magnuse
06:49 reiveune hi rangi, hi cait
06:49 magnuse hi reiveune
06:49 cait hi reiveune
06:48 rangi hi reiveune
06:46 reiveune hello
06:41 mtj http://git.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=xt/perltidyrc
06:41 mtj next to update the file...
06:39 cait mtj++
06:37 magnuse mtj++ # for perltidy info on the wiki
06:28 mtj http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.com/Non-technical-questions-and-beating-a-dead-horse-td4873696.html
06:27 wahanui thanks cait :)
06:27 cait wahanui botsnack cookies
06:26 ropuch Oh, 'non-technical' still alive? ;>
06:21 wahanui Cookies are delicious delicacies
06:21 cait cookies!
06:20 alex_a hi ropuch, magnuse :)
06:20 magnuse :-)
06:20 mtj hah, i had a chuckle at the 'Non-technical questions' mail thread...
06:20 magnuse hiya alex_a and ropuch
06:20 ropuch Hi magnuse, alex_a
06:20 alex_a hello #koha
06:19 magnuse eythian still around?
06:19 magnuse kia ora #koha
06:16 ropuch I will
06:16 cait you can write to the koha-translate mailing list
06:16 cait he is current and new translation manager
06:16 ropuch cait: so fredericd is the one to bother about pootle permissions?
06:11 ropuch So I remeber it right - i had overwrite permission earlier
06:10 ropuch Ha!
06:10 cait and add all new as suggestions
06:10 cait merge
06:10 cait I can do overwrite
06:09 cait I will check
06:07 ropuch I just don;t feel like sspending even more hours going over my corrected terms and aproving them, as they are now showed as suggestion ;>
06:06 ropuch I've spend couple of ours correcting fuzzy translation i polish and - without "overwrite" option
06:05 ropuch Yea, I know, just wasn;t sure if I just imnagined it being there
06:04 ropuch So you have the right for german translation?
06:04 cait I have no access to give you rights
06:04 cait perhaps ask fredericd about it
06:04 cait it#s a permission thing I think
06:04 cait ah
06:04 cait I think fredericd says it kills pootle because our files are too big
06:04 ropuch Rather something like overwrite
06:04 cait a merge thing?
06:03 ropuch cait: I'm not sure, but I remeber 3rd action to chose when uploading .po file to pootle
05:53 cait morning ropuch :)
05:50 ropuch Morning #koha
05:27 cait np
05:27 * bg types too fast
05:26 cait hi bg :)
05:26 bg heh
05:26 bg cait:
05:26 bg AHH
05:26 bg heya ciat
05:26 cait hi rangi :)
05:26 rangi hi cait
05:15 fa thanks a lot cait!
05:13 cait if you download koha look out for the INSTALL*files that come with it
05:13 cait I can't do better than that
05:13 cait there are lots of manuals on the wiki and in koha
05:09 fa I do not have enough money to hire experts, if you can show the way to do it. thanks
05:08 cait you will need to be able to use perl, mysql, cronjobs...
05:07 cait fa: usual web hosting will not work I think, you need a server
05:06 fa hello, tell me if can I put Koha in the usual hosting server?
05:05 cait morning #koha
04:09 eythian funny cos it's true
04:09 eythian heh
04:07 ibeardslee eg python
04:02 wajasu indenting makes people do funny things
03:48 jcamins Ah.
03:47 eythian So the indenting made me make bugs :)
03:47 eythian so I wasn't sure why there was another block at the bottom, and deleted it as it didn't make sense.
03:46 eythian not the indenting specifically, but the whole middle chunk is supposed to be indented by a level and isn't
03:46 jcamins Ah. Haven't had the misfortune of looking at that one.
03:46 eythian jcamins: opac-sendshelf.pl
03:46 jcamins Which file?
03:45 jcamins The _indenting_ was causing bugs?
03:42 * eythian gets to reformat a whole file as its indenting was so bad it was causing bugs.
03:36 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5459] merging records loses holds from one <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5459>
03:11 jcamins Ah.
03:11 eythian 4-space indents
03:10 jcamins eythian: what would you do instead?
03:08 eythian hmm found one default perltidy thing I don't like: two-space indents when continuing a statement on the next line.
02:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6975 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, NEW , OPACBaseURL called as OPACBaseurl in many templates
02:42 jenkins_koha ian.walls: Bug 6975: OPACBaseurl instead of OPACBaseURL
02:42 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #455: SUCCESS in 47 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/455/
02:36 * Brooke is tempted to crash the party that is surely happening in someone else's flat...
02:34 eythian heh
02:33 mtj i'm the 1st person *itching* to tidy all that terrible terrible wonky code :p
02:32 mtj eythian, um yeah, ok :)
02:31 mtj ta
02:31 eythian maybe also add "...unless it's really terrible" to the bit about not refactoring other code :)
02:30 eythian according to the man page
02:30 eythian npro, not nopro
02:29 mtj read ok?
02:29 mtj http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Perltidy
02:16 Brooke I think I might be forced to go to a pub for Cymru Éireann
02:14 rangi but effective
02:14 rangi boring rugby
02:14 * Brooke crosses ye olde fingers.
02:14 rangi thats how england will beat france too
02:14 rangi they'll win
02:13 rangi if the boks play it tight and smash up the middle
02:13 Brooke ENGAGE
02:13 Brooke pause
02:13 Brooke touch
02:13 Brooke crouch
02:13 rangi i mean the US scored a try, from a scrum
02:13 rangi depends, the aussie forwards are hopeless
02:12 Brooke I think the Boks might lose to the West Islanders, but the Oirish could best em, so who knows...
02:11 Brooke it has been known to happen
02:11 rangi unless france suddenly stop hating each other and decide to play as a team
02:10 Brooke chur ya think?
02:10 rangi wales
02:10 rangi england
02:10 Brooke Wales Éireann?
02:10 Brooke also
02:10 Brooke England France?
02:04 Brooke argh roles.
02:03 eythian pedestrians are even less safe!
02:03 * Brooke is sorely tempted to draw up pools based on Release Rolls.
02:03 * Brooke laughs.
02:03 rangi hey bus driver
02:03 Brooke 0/
01:54 jenkins_koha Starting build 455 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
01:47 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6975: OPACBaseurl instead of OPACBaseURL <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=38f4c5264dee725505e34f81756e68d2558c59f2>
01:41 jcamins :)
01:41 jcamins Right you are.
01:40 rangi old git maybe
01:40 rangi when all that changed was one letter
01:40 jcamins Hm. I wonder why it doesn't work on this other VM.
01:40 rangi its good for finding what actually changed
01:40 rangi heh
01:40 eythian it's all christmasy
01:40 rangi yup
01:40 eythian that is pretty nice
01:40 rangi git diff --word-diff-color works too of course
01:39 rangi makes reading diffs a lot easier
01:39 rangi its cool
01:39 rangi try it :)
01:39 jcamins No, what's it do?
01:39 rangi eh?
01:39 rangi git show --word-diff=color
01:39 rangi you ppl all know about
01:34 rangi hehe
01:34 eythian you made it subjective! shame on you!
01:34 rangi now covers all cases
01:33 * eythian tends to tidy a block before he starts working on it, it reduces chances of making mistakes due to bad indenting.
01:33 rangi i fixed it
01:33 eythian it's also objective. It says so.
01:33 * jcamins agrees with you, of course.
01:32 eythian jcamins: naw, it's all true
01:32 jcamins eythian: that might cause a bit of debate.
01:32 eythian probably not really
01:32 wizzyrea is that doc still relevant?
01:32 wizzyrea well and I knew that there were coding guidelines
01:31 eythian http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Vim <-- at least, a start
01:31 mtj oops, using perltidy removes whitespace errors too
01:31 wizzyrea right sorry
01:31 wizzyrea oh
01:31 eythian wizzyrea: already done
01:31 wizzyrea that way we can point people to it
01:31 wizzyrea mtj: if you write a wiki page of recommendations, that might help
01:30 mtj using perltidy always removes stupid whitespace junk, from files too
01:29 mtj people just need to learn how to get perltidy to clean selected-blocks, on their editor
01:29 eythian also, to do everything you'd have to have a commit freeze, or everyone would have a billion conflicts.
01:28 * rangi too
01:28 mtj yeah, i agree on that 'safe' option
01:27 eythian using the vim bindings, it's pretty quick and easy.
01:27 eythian I think that just tidying a block as you work on it is best, avoids messing up git history everywhere.
01:26 mtj ... now we get to discuss who/when/why old code gets tidyfied
01:23 eythian and actually is relevant to perl, that's a definite thing going for it, too.
01:23 mtj yep
01:23 mtj yeah.. ill take that as a win, too ;)
01:22 eythian ah
01:22 eythian that's the default for perltidy with no options?
01:22 mtj aka perltidy -nopro
01:22 eythian mostly because it's very similar.
01:22 eythian oh good, second best to pbp imo.
01:22 mtj larry-wall style
01:22 mtj i thought stupidity might win, for a bit there ... but no :)
01:21 eythian what was it in the end?
01:21 mtj hey, i'm very happy we managed to get a perltidy style accepted
01:14 wizzyrea swapping out the bugzilla default asignees
01:12 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6974] MARC21 Leader plugin no longer auto-fills the 000 field <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6974>
01:12 jcamins What?
01:10 wizzyrea in re: to the meeting this morning
01:10 wizzyrea uh, for the record: i'm totally cool shepherding circulation
01:10 jcamins As for why you don't have the author appearing after importing records, are you sure your old system is exporting real MARC?
01:09 novice Great, thanks for the info.
01:09 jcamins That is correct.
01:09 novice Ok thanks, so you are saying that the best practice is not to have the Author field mandatory?
01:08 jcamins Or a work with no author at all.
01:08 jcamins In fact, if you made the author mandatory, it would cause you very big problems as soon as you had a work with a corporate author.
01:07 wizzyrea you type too fast. :)
01:07 wizzyrea ^^
01:07 jcamins novice: I think you have a different problem, because whether or not a field is mandatory has nothing to do with it being imported.
01:06 novice Hello everyone, I have a question about MARC record import, the Author's name is not a mandatory field and therefore when a MARC record is imported into the library, the author's name does not come across (even when typed in). How can I make it mandatory?
00:17 wizzyrea I know it wasn't the only touchscreen smart phone
00:17 mtj i wasted a decade using MS crapware, that sometimes worked
00:17 wizzyrea the rest -- you wouldn't want to use it
00:17 wizzyrea naw, it was the only one that worked properly
00:16 eythian wizzyrea: the iphone was never the only touchscreen phone, their marketing just made you think that
00:16 wizzyrea *nod*
00:16 mtj yeah, apples stuff mostly 'just worked'
00:15 wizzyrea ^^ this, yes
00:15 ibeardslee wizzyrea: I think mainly because of the "see it can be done"
00:15 Judit yeah he changed the world
00:14 wizzyrea though I never had an iPad
00:14 wizzyrea same with my android tablet
00:14 wizzyrea so for that I am grateful.
00:14 wizzyrea i know that my android phone would not be what it is without the influence of the iphone
00:14 ibeardslee same here
00:14 wizzyrea when iphone was the only touchscreen smartphone, I had one - it was revolutionary.
00:13 wizzyrea ya
00:13 rangi *nod*
00:13 ibeardslee yup
00:13 Judit he was a kinda asshole, but he was a genius
00:12 rangi aka #trollytrolltrolltrollers
00:12 rangi nope
00:12 ibeardslee rangi: doesn't follow #catalyst does he?
00:11 rangi wow
00:09 wizzyrea today
00:09 wizzyrea just happened
00:09 wizzyrea no maam
00:07 Judit is this an old news?
00:07 Judit http://www.apple.com/stevejobs/
00:06 wahanui hi, Judit
00:06 Judit hi
00:03 wizzyrea ya
00:02 mtj bah, iSteve has died ?!?