Time  Nick              Message
23:11 rangi             hmm
22:58 Brooke            0/
21:44 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6937 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, ASSIGNED , Change "fines" message on circ page to "Fees & charges"
21:44 jenkins_koha      robin: Bug 6937 - change "Fines" to "Fees & Charges" on circ page
21:44 jenkins_koha      Project Koha_master build #453: FIXED in 46 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/453/
21:44 jenkins_koha      Yippie, build fixed!
21:43 wizzyrea          u got it :)
21:42 phlunk3           tx wizzyrea
21:11 wizzyrea          phlunk3 ^^
21:11 wizzyrea          if you don't see anything in there, it was a source install
21:09 wizzyrea          dpkg --get-selections | grep koha
21:09 wizzyrea          if the list is too unwieldy
21:09 wizzyrea          dpkg --get-selections would show you the currently installed  packages
21:08 phlunk3           I have a machine with koha installed, however I am not sure if it was installed with the package or from source. I am not a server guy but presume I can check this with some basic command from the machine, can anyone tell me how to do that?
21:01 rangi             pushed to the right branch tho, so thats ok ;)
21:00 rangi             heh
20:59 rangi             hmmm yep sorry i missed the typo when i signed off too
20:57 sekjal            whoops
20:57 sekjal            huh, did I get the wrong bug number on that one?
20:57 jenkins_koha      Starting build 453 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #451 4 j 0 h ago)
20:57 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5236 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, CLOSED FIXED, "hide my tags" link does nothing
20:57 jenkins_koha      ian.walls: Bug 5236 Followup: items table information being keyed by biblionumber instead!
20:57 jenkins_koha      Project Koha_master build #452: UNSTABLE in 47 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/452/
20:50 wizzyrea          good lu... oh, he's gone
20:31 cait              rangi++
20:29 hguewmLibrarian   Thanks for the help, I will probably return... IF IT gets back to me
20:26 huginn            New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6937 - change "Fines" to "Fees & Charges" on circ page <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1d89ab22c973311939c3664ebb886ede713c0df2>
20:20 hguewmLibrarian   then will try again to reimplement wizzrea's solution
20:20 hguewmLibrarian   just told IT to make the Windo$e computer static
20:17 * oleonard        toodles off home
20:15 * wizzyrea        toodles off to check on her other dire projects of the day
20:15 hguewmLibrarian   yup (in progress)
20:15 wizzyrea          worth a try anyway
20:14 hguewmLibrarian   quite possibly...
20:13 wizzyrea          http://cri.ch/linux/docs/sk0001.html
20:13 wizzyrea          maybe something like this would work
20:13 * hguewmLibrarian checks
20:13 hguewmLibrarian   sidenote: webmin is awesome!
20:13 wizzyrea          you don't have smbclient on your linux box?
20:12 hguewmLibrarian   but it was server side not client
20:12 hguewmLibrarian   i updated the samba module using webmin
20:12 hguewmLibrarian   linux says wut?
20:12 wizzyrea          ah so you've got samba-like access to it
20:12 hguewmLibrarian   Windows to windows
20:12 hguewmLibrarian   does work
20:12 hguewmLibrarian   but the  extension \\univAdmin-PC\univlibrary1\
20:12 wizzyrea          hrm.
20:11 hguewmLibrarian   yeah the IP they gave me on Saturday, doesn't work now
20:11 wizzyrea          soo ok
20:11 wizzyrea          ;)
20:10 hguewmLibrarian   senor o senora
20:10 hguewmLibrarian   si senor
20:10 hguewmLibrarian   locked down from me
20:10 wizzyrea          oy
20:10 hguewmLibrarian   nope
20:10 hguewmLibrarian   so the latest strategy (again one i don't like)
20:10 wizzyrea          you have access to the windows machine?
20:10 wizzyrea          ohh
20:10 hguewmLibrarian   oh and iBackup doesn't allow FTP
20:09 hguewmLibrarian   they're feeling the pressure for the CEO, so they want me to fix their problems
20:09 hguewmLibrarian   um... well... IT isn't helpful (by that i mean that they're making me do this, after ignoring my requests for the last 2 months)
20:09 jenkins_koha      Starting build 452 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
20:08 wizzyrea          for whatever reason?
20:08 wizzyrea          ah, and you can't tell the windows machine to "be static, dammit"
20:08 hguewmLibrarian   they're in the same private network
20:07 wizzyrea          how remote is remote
20:07 wizzyrea          well, you can set up a dyndns for the windows machine, and connect to it using the name
20:07 rangi             :)
20:06 oleonard          rangi: It's enough to worry about what everyone else's Windows machines are doing ;)
20:06 huginn            New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'kc/new/enh/bug_5263' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=481f620455d40f93a3cb37136ef2c3964497751e> / Bug 5236 Followup: items table information being keyed by biblionumber instead! <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=37c48ccfb2b0893366676741a506e0243db49d40>
20:06 hguewmLibrarian   rangi: I'd rather not either
20:06 rangi             sorry
20:06 * rangi           doesnt have windows machines to worry about
20:06 hguewmLibrarian   http://www.ibackup.com/online-backup-linux/
20:06 rangi             i dont
20:05 hguewmLibrarian   OR configure the iBackup linux command line tool to do the job
20:05 hguewmLibrarian   oh Koha Ninja-Gurus: How does one best back up their FS to a remote Windows machines (with apparently a dynamic IP address)??
19:52 huginn            New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6963] When creating a new order, the item isn't added if its barcode already exists in the items table. <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6963>
19:52 oleonard          the fact that the KOCT addon doesn't remember the patron barcode between transactions makes it almost unusable IMO
19:50 oleonard          I did get an error with an incorrect patron, so that's good
19:48 paul_p            :((( right, just tested and got the same behaviour. i'll investigate (i just tested with a correct barcode/patron, it work well)
19:47 oleonard          I had one entry with a deliberately non-existent barcode and got no error. It said "success"
19:47 paul_p            FF plugin > upload to koha > process all uploaded data. Only in the last step there are checkings
19:46 paul_p            oleonard, in the FF plugin, no. But on the offline_circ/list.pl, when you say "Process", you should
19:45 oleonard          paul_p: Should I have gotten an error from the offline circ processing page when submitting an entry with a non-existent barcode?
19:42 paul_p            oleonard, thanks ! will investigate if i understand why it does not work, and if I can't understand  i'll remove the  000
19:42 oleonard          paul_p: I would sign off on the bulk biblio tool with 000 updating removed
19:41 paul_p            you must use "commit to koha", then go to cgi-bin/koha/offline_circ/list.pl, where you'll see all the file uploaded from different circ-desk-computer.
19:40 oleonard          I have know idea what "commit to Koha" and "apply directly" mean or how they differ
19:40 paul_p            oleonard, yes, same for me, they differ
19:40 oleonard          On mine I have "commit to Koha", "apply directly," and "clear"
19:39 paul_p            oleonard, important thing : the branch in your parameters must be the branch you're logged on, otherwise, you won't see the line uploaded (as you apply branch by branch)
19:39 oleonard          On the wiki the log tab as one button, "Commit to Koha"
19:39 oleonard          paul_p: The screenshots on the wiki differ from what I see
19:39 paul_p            oleonard, not that I know
19:39 paul_p            oleonard, as we are very close from string freeze, would you be OK to sign off the bulk biblio update with 000 (leader) removed ? I will reintroduce it lated, as a bugfix
19:39 oleonard          paul_p: Do you have a different version of the KOCT addon than is on the Mozilla site?
19:38 paul_p            oleonard, i really want to see the bulk biblio (& the koct tool) in 3.6, so i'll investigate again !
19:38 nengard           thanks
19:37 paul_p            nengard, yep, it's adding data from aqorders
19:37 oleonard          paul_p: Yes, I've tested successfully with fields other than 000. I was particularly interested in the 000 field because we have a lot of errors in our current database with 000
19:36 nengard           i mean how does the number get calculated - is it adding up data in another table?
19:36 paul_p            once it's recieved, it will be in "spent" column
19:36 paul_p            nengard, it's the total ordered (from aqorders page), and not yet recieved
19:35 paul_p            oleonard, about the biblio bulkupdate tool, do you have tested things outside from field 000 ? because i'm thinking removing the 000 field, as I think it's quite uncommon to update ALL the leader (and this tool can't update a part of the leader)
19:35 nengard           it's not from aqbudgets.budget_encumb because that's all zeros in my DB
19:35 nengard           can anyone tell me where the 'ordered' amount is coming from on this page: cgi-bin/koha/acqui/acqui-home.pl ?
19:34 paul_p            don't forget to crete the new table.
19:34 oleonard          paul_p: I was confused when I read the page on the wiki. I didn't realize it was part of your RFC. I thought it was about the current workflow
19:34 paul_p            oleonard, & wizzyrea new patch submitted, rebased against head.
19:32 paul_p            just below the old "koct upload"
19:32 paul_p            oleonard, about the link to reach the new script, it's located on circulation/circulation-home.pl
19:31 paul_p            oleonard, right. it's just supposed to have updatedatabase
19:26 oleonard          I don't think the patch is supposed to include kohaversion.
19:24 paul_p            seems there is something wrong with the patch (it does not apply due to a kohaversion not set correctly)
19:21 * wizzyrea        will test it too
19:21 oleonard          Hm, perhaps a merge error when I was testing the patch...
19:20 * paul_p          restarting from scratch testing the patch
19:20 paul_p            oleonard, on http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=4862, there is an updatedatabase for it
19:19 oleonard          paul_p: I don't have that table. Nor do I find any reference in master to "pending_offline_operations"
19:13 cait              my tab didn't work
19:13 paul_p            hi cait
19:13 cait              hi paul_p
19:13 cait              hi pa
19:13 paul_p            about 5877, do you have checked that you have the pending_offline_operations table ?
19:12 oleonard          Yes
19:12 paul_p            oleonard, about ?
19:12 paul_p            owen, about ?
19:12 paul_p            hello everybody
18:53 rangi             ok my stop bbiab
18:43 rangi             when I get in to my desk
18:43 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5263 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, cnighswonger, ASSIGNED , Add support for including fields from the ISSUES table in advanced due notices
18:43 rangi             sekjal: im gonna push your fix for bug 5263
18:42 cait              yep
18:42 rangi             yuck
18:41 cait              when I was leaving from the bbq at the rhine river my bike was all wet :(
18:41 rangi             its def gonna rain here
18:41 huginn            rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 11.0�C (7:00 AM NZDT on October 04, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Rising).
18:41 rangi             @wunder wellington nz
18:41 cait              no rain
18:41 cait              humid
18:41 huginn            cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 14.9�C (8:36 PM CEST on October 03, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 30.23 in 1023.6 hPa (Steady).
18:41 cait              @wunder Konstanz
18:38 rangi             sweet
18:37 ibeardslee        righto I'll wander by at some stage
18:36 rangi             any time in the arvo is fine
18:36 rangi             yup that would be good
18:36 rangi             make that 2 meetings :)
18:36 ibeardslee        rangi: want to catch up about the academy later today? ;)
18:36 cait              :)
18:35 rangi             only 1 meeting today, yay
18:31 cait              to nz, soon 12
18:31 cait              yep 11 hours now from here
18:31 cait              oh
18:30 oleonard          Daylight Savings Time
18:28 cait              dst?
18:28 cait              morning :)
18:28 rangi             Heh
18:28 * wizzyrea        is not used to your DST
18:28 wizzyrea          mornin
18:27 rangi             Morning
18:25 cait              hi liz :)
18:25 wizzyrea          hi cait :)
18:24 cait              hi #koha :)
18:22 wizzyrea          I see.
18:22 wizzyrea          never mind.
18:22 wizzyrea          where'd you see that
18:22 wizzyrea          whoa
18:21 oleonard          Doesn't contribute to Koha, calls other's contributions hacks...
16:55 ropuch            oleonard: it seems that I have templatetoolkti 2.20, which has problem with uri/url filters and utf8
16:49 wizzyrea          *nod*
16:48 oleonard          Okay, thanks for the input. It has been sheer inertia keeping us from using the built-in notices. I'd like the patrons to have the options of the other kinds of notices though, and that's good motivation to switch.
16:47 wizzyrea          but that's a pretty simple thing to do iirc
16:47 wizzyrea          right
16:42 oleonard          Right now they get an email if they have one registered with us, no bones about it
16:42 oleonard          Yeah if we start using notices we'll have to bulk update our patrons to enable the holds message
16:41 wizzyrea          libraries tell people when they sign them up they'll be getting emails
16:41 wizzyrea          we have hold notices turned on by default for new patrons
16:41 wizzyrea          right
16:41 oleonard          ...and if there is no email address they just... see that there isn't?
16:39 wizzyrea          and that is printed on the slip
16:39 wizzyrea          I think they put "PHONE ONLY" in the phone number
16:39 wizzyrea          for those that explicitly want to be called
16:39 oleonard          Does the librarian look at the confirmation dialog to check for an email address? I'm wondering how they know if they have to make a call
16:39 wizzyrea          well
16:38 oleonard          I assume some don't have email addresses
16:38 oleonard          When the book arrives, how does the library indicate whether the patron needs to be contacted?
16:38 wizzyrea          yep
16:38 oleonard          So if a book is being transferred to another branch you print out a slip and send the book with the slip?
16:37 wizzyrea          if you want I'll get you some screen caps of what they look like
16:37 wizzyrea          print them
16:37 oleonard          Do your libraries print out hold slips, or fill out slips by hand wizzyrea ?
16:37 wizzyrea          *nod*
16:37 oleonard          We've been using our own home-grown process since before 3.0, so we've never used the built-in notices feature for holds
16:36 wizzyrea          ropuch: that could definitely happen
16:36 wizzyrea          sure, I'll try
16:36 oleonard          wizzyrea: Do you have time for a notice question? Or anyone who uses hold notification emails
16:34 ropuch            Maybe wrong encoding was chosen during import?
16:34 ropuch            Don;t think it's zebra related
16:33 * wizzyrea        has been down several rabbit holes this morning already
16:33 wizzyrea          actually, I don't want to send you down a rabbit hole, I really don't know the cause of your problem.
16:32 wizzyrea          right, maybe it's not indexing in utf8 or something?
16:32 ropuch            Well, searching works just fine
16:32 wizzyrea          no idea why it would be doing that
16:31 wizzyrea          ropuch: completely off the wall wild guess - zebra is using the wrong encoding?
16:29 ropuch            oleonard: I can't reproduce the error on fresh instance using same imported record, so I guess it's not a bug in Koha, but rather mine install/server issue
16:23 wizzyrea          Ah
16:23 nengard           and wizzyrea it's not a library that was ever on anything but Koha
16:22 nengard           thanks oleonard!!
16:17 * oleonard        is happy to see if it can be made to work that way
16:17 wizzyrea          harleyism?
16:17 wizzyrea          I don't recall it ever doing that either
16:12 nengard           I can change the severity to enhancement and tell him we can't find where it ever worked
16:12 nengard           i have to admit I didn't remember it ever working that way, but a partner of ours said it did and I took his word for it
16:11 oleonard          I agree that the way you describe it is how it *should* work.
16:11 oleonard          nengard: Do you have an example of that working the way you expect?
16:11 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6954 normal, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW , z39.50 results highlighting not sticking
16:11 oleonard          nengard, I'm looking at Bug 6954. I've gone back to before the T:T conversion and can't find where it worked as you described.
15:58 oleonard          Do Z39.50 searches return a certain maximum number of records?
15:57 ropuch            Ok, I'm going with fresh head install and will try to reproduce it
15:50 ropuch            With author name "Ziemiański"
15:49 ropuch            Hm that was some random record I took from academic marc repo
15:47 oleonard          ropuch: That record didn't appear to import correctly for me, and wouldn't open in MarcEdit.
15:39 reiveune          bye
15:37 ropuch            oleonard: I have this error using this marc record http://loza.art.pl/~ropuch/ziemianski.mrc
15:34 huginn            New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6553] Parentheses in corporate author break tracings <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6553>
15:29 oleonard          ropuch: I can't reproduce that error in my test system (which is up to date on master) using that name
15:15 ropuch            Brb
15:11 ropuch            http://spg.bagno.be/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=ziemia%C5%84ski
15:11 ropuch            Ziemiański
15:09 oleonard          ropuch: Can you give an example of an author name which triggers the error?
15:08 oleonard          If the git emails, tweets, and RSS aren't enough: https://github.com/sickill/git-dude
15:07 ropuch            Author link is broken too
15:06 ropuch            I just looked into bib with some polish letter in author's name
15:06 ropuch            Hm, actually it can be issue with |url filter
15:04 ropuch            After removing |url filter from link_loo.link subject link is working fine
15:03 ropuch            Well, as other instances of subject (in title tag) was displaying ok, I looked into the code and took a gues
15:00 oleonard          ropuch: How do you reproduce the problem?
15:00 huginn            New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5263] Add support for including fields from the ISSUES table in advanced due notices <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5263> / [Bug 6957] Authors disappearing when emailing lists <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6957>
15:00 oleonard          the |url is the Template:Toolkit filter, so if there is a bug it will be with Template:toolkit and observable anywhere the |url filter is used.
14:55 ropuch            I might have found a bug in opac-detail.tt, line 166 > [% link_loo.link  |url %] is messing the link, a the |url seems to be responsible for that
14:39 cait              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Unity_Day
14:39 cait              holiday in germany today - invited to a bbq :)
14:39 cait              bye all :)
14:35 sekjal            awesome!
14:34 oleonard          Thanks sekjal, that worked
14:32 oleonard          Ah, maybe that's it
14:32 sekjal            oleonard: loop.size?
14:32 * oleonard        has a vague memory...
14:30 oleonard          Something besides just checking IF ( loop.name ) ?
14:30 schwitzd          I created the structure for the default framework from the Books, Booklets, Workbooks framework
14:30 oleonard          Am I remembering this right? Isn't there a new way with T:T to check whether a template loop is empty?
14:29 oleonard          schwitzd: How?
14:29 schwitzd          thanks a lot for your support
14:28 schwitzd          cait: solved :D
14:28 liquidxd          hellooo
14:24 schwitzd          cait: how I can import the default framework structure?
14:22 schwitzd          cait: http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/4620/66707171.png
14:20 cait              that's probably not a good thing
14:20 schwitzd          empty*
14:20 schwitzd          cait: the structure of the default framework is emty
14:19 cait              or 245
14:19 cait              if 200 is still ok
14:19 cait              i would check in the default framework
14:19 cait              y
14:19 cait              schwitzd: I have no idea , sorr
14:19 schwitzd          cait: but why the pull down for the 500s is not empty and the 200s is empty?
14:14 schwitzd          I didn't touch nothing
14:14 schwitzd          the pull down is empty
14:14 cait              have you changed your marc frameworks?
14:13 cait              the pull down is empty?
14:13 schwitzd          cait: uhm but why if I try to associate the tag 245 i cannot? (second printscreen)
14:12 cait              schwitzd: yes, the association is missing - but somethin gmust have changed the mapping
14:11 schwitzd          is missing one assotiation... for me this is the problem
14:10 schwitzd          if you look the first printscreen
14:10 schwitzd          today I did a search and now I have this problem...
14:10 schwitzd          but until yesterday all works fine...
14:09 schwitzd          marc21
14:09 cait              schwitzd: have you installed koha with marc21 or unimarc?
14:06 schwitzd          could be a bug?
14:06 schwitzd          http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.com/MARC-Mapping-td4864837.html
14:06 schwitzd          Here the print screen
14:05 schwitzd          all my books has the title "No title"
14:05 schwitzd          someone can help me with a koha problem
14:04 schwitzd          Hello to everybody :)
14:02 ropuch            wizzyrea: and hi ;-)
14:01 cait              hi wizzyrea
14:01 ropuch            wizzyrea: yup
14:00 wizzyrea          morning
14:00 wizzyrea          ropuch they are ok in the record?
14:00 ropuch            Hello cait [;
13:59 ropuch            http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/854/opac.png
13:59 ropuch            I have funny issue with imported records, subjects' link has some weird encoding, different that in title tag for the link
13:59 cait              hi ropuch
13:59 cait              oleonard++ :)
13:55 ropuch            Hello #koha
13:43 oleonard          At least I can start the day with an easy one.
13:35 huginn            New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6955] Toolbar on reading history broken <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6955>
13:31 nengard           no prob oleonard
13:29 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6959 critical, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Can't import record via Z39.50 from MARC edit page
13:29 oleonard          Thanks for putting the bug in Bugzilla nengard. Bug 6959
13:28 * sekjal          hides
13:28 oleonard          It's okay, sekjal will make it all better.
13:23 oleonard          I see a templates.pm error in the log, but that looks unrelated.
13:23 oleonard          I've reproduced it on two systems, but with similar data (not sure if it's data related or not)
13:14 oleonard          New to me.
13:14 cait              oleonard: new thing?
13:14 wahanui           i already had it that way, cait.
13:14 cait              not that I am aware of
13:09 oleonard          Wonderful. Z39.50 importing from addbiblio is broken?
12:41 magnuse           hehe
12:40 oleonard          A funny tweet from the jQuery conference: "Spotted: a LINE at the 6-stall women's bathroom at the jQuery Conference. Success :D"
12:31 cait              we don't use that in our libraries
12:31 cait              hm no
12:31 magnuse           i was asked by a librarian...
12:30 hdl               magnuse: interesting question.
12:29 magnuse           anyone tried using a receipt-printer with the web based self checkout?
12:25 oleonard          Hi #koha
11:51 * jwagner         waves to cait
11:50 * cait            waves
11:48 nengard           hello
11:48 jwagner           Hi magnuse
11:48 magnuse           kia ora jwagner and nengard
10:40 huginn            magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 10.0�C (12:20 PM CEST on October 03, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady).
10:40 magnuse           @wunder boo
10:06 huginn            cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 14.8�C (12:01 PM CEST on October 03, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 97%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1024.9 hPa (Rising).
10:06 cait              @wunder Konstanz
10:04 huginn            rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 11.0�C (10:00 PM NZDT on October 03, 2011). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady).
10:04 rangi             @wunder wellington nz
08:13 cait              heavy fog.. yes
08:12 huginn            cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 14.0�C (10:00 AM CEST on October 03, 2011). Conditions: Heavy Fog. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 30.29 in 1026 hPa (Rising).
08:12 cait              @wunder Konstanz
07:50 rangi             tab completion fails again
07:50 rangi             gah, hdl
07:50 rangi             hi marcelr, francharb and huginn
07:45 marcelr           hi hdl
07:41 hdl               hi all
07:37 marcelr           hi cait
07:37 cait              hi francharb and marcelr
07:31 marcelr           hello koha
07:30 francharb         hi all
06:59 wahanui           hola, reiveune
06:59 reiveune          hello
06:37 cait              hi rangi
06:37 rangi             hi cait
06:36 alex_a            :)
06:36 cait              mornin alex_a
06:36 alex_a            morning cait
06:30 cait              morning #koha
06:24 wahanui           alex_a: sorry...
06:24 alex_a            wahanui: \o
06:23 wahanui           niihau, alex_a
06:23 alex_a            hello
05:00 huginn            rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 11.0�C (5:00 PM NZDT on October 03, 2011). Conditions: Rain Showers. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Falling).
05:00 rangi             @wunder wellington nz
03:30 phlunk3           thanks
03:29 rangi             might be called patrons
03:29 phlunk3           I don't even see a borrowers link anywhere in the system, maybe these guys customised it.
03:28 rangi             then set permissions, make it a superuser
03:28 rangi             make a user
03:27 rangi             go to borrowers
03:27 phlunk3           another probably stupid question, where do I go inside the system to create a new librarian account for this guy?
03:24 phlunk3           ahh sorry thanks
03:23 rangi             the username that is in that file yes
03:22 phlunk3           okay I've got the definitive correct xml file (changed pass and get db connection error). u r saying this pass should work with the username kohaadmin in the libraryadmin section of the site?
03:18 phlunk3           ahh maybe Im in the wrong xml then, thx will try figure out how to see what files being used.
03:16 rangi             but if it wasnt working, there would be no db connection
03:16 rangi             check your apache conf, to make sure it is the right koha-conf.xml file
03:15 phlunk3           if the pass in the xml file isnt working, then there is some other issue? seems crazy that it doesnt just work with that if thats what u expected though.
03:14 Oak               hello #koha
03:13 rangi             no worries
03:11 phlunk3           tx m8
03:10 rangi             koha-conf.xml file
03:10 phlunk3           stupid question, cause I've asked this before sorry, but where can I see the user/pass that the koha install is using to access the database?
03:09 rangi             :)
03:09 phlunk3           yeah will do thanks :)
03:09 rangi             and getting them to use that
03:09 rangi             making a real user, assigning it superlibrarian
03:09 rangi             you'll be doing them a big favour
03:09 rangi             but dont tell them that
03:09 phlunk3           thanks
03:09 rangi             yes
03:09 phlunk3           ahh so the pass is just the db pass?
03:09 rangi             you should make them a real user
03:08 rangi             thats the user koha connects to the db as
03:08 rangi             and they should never login with that, apart from when doing the install
03:08 phlunk3           ahh good, just saw its not in borrowers lol
03:08 rangi             oh thats not a real user
03:08 phlunk3           yeah thats their user they r asking about
03:08 rangi             login wihth the kohaadmin user
03:07 phlunk3           they r the only admin account in this system I believe, so need to reset their user pass via the db lol
03:07 rangi             its one way encryption
03:07 rangi             you can make them a new one
03:07 rangi             but if you find their user in koha
03:07 phlunk3           thx, what format are the passwords saved in?
03:07 rangi             you cant get their password out, its encrypted
03:07 rangi             admin users arent special, they are just borrowers in the borrowers table, with elevated privileges
03:06 phlunk3           just the library admin, db is fine
03:06 rangi             just a library admin, not the kohaadmin user for connecting to the db eh?
03:05 phlunk3           hi guys, an admin from our system has forgotten their password (maybe username) can anyone tell me where the admin accounts are saved in the database?
00:16 jcamins_away      eythian: that's what I thought, thanks.