Time Nick Message 23:29 * jcamins dinners 23:18 * eythian lunches 23:18 eythian awesome. Have a look in the koha-create script, there's a few options in there that are currently undocumented, too. 23:17 jcamins I now have a defaults.sql.gz file with just what I need. :) 23:17 jcamins And that time included doing most of the setup for the packages. 23:15 eythian yep, that's why I like them. It's so very quick. 23:15 jcamins One hour from "gee, I think I'd better set up a bunch of catalogs" to "hey, look at that, it's a bunch of catalogs." 23:14 rangi we should make liw come to kohacon and talk ;) 23:14 gbarniskis agreed ++ 23:14 rangi liw++ # for teaching us 23:14 eythian sweet :) 23:14 jcamins eythian++ # the Koha packages are fantastic 23:05 jcamins eythian: yep, thanks. :D 23:01 eythian jcamins: jcamins has answered all your questions 22:43 huginn jcamins: Contains information about processing, reference, and preservation actions. (Repeatable) [a,b,c,d,e,f,h,i,j,k,l,n,o,u,x,z,2,3,5,6,8] 22:43 jcamins @marc 583 22:08 jcamins I never can remember. 22:08 jcamins Do you have to have AmazonEnabled set to on for AmazonCoverImages to work? 21:50 jcamins Cool, thanks. 21:50 jcamins Ah, koha-dump-defaults. 21:50 jcamins Does anyone know off the top of their head how to create the default SQL the packages use? 21:45 maximep cya 21:45 maximep yay, work day is done. Crazy day, but at least did 3 or 4 bug reports with patchs for Koha =) 21:42 maximep maybe our default was broken.... anyway 21:41 maximep looks like it showed an error in 3.2 but now works in master 21:41 maximep :S 21:40 maximep S 21:40 maximep coworker said that creating a new autority with default framework wouldn't be a good idea 21:40 maximep just not sure what to do with it 21:40 maximep not my patch 21:40 maximep no idea 21:40 jcamins maximep: why would you remove the default framework? 21:40 maximep I really don't know anything about authorities 21:39 maximep I have a branch with a patch that removes the default framework in the New Authority button 21:31 jcamins Oh wow! I can provide a default SQL file? That's so cool! 21:30 jcamins Awesome, thanks. 21:30 jcamins Yep, that's the one. 21:30 wahanui i guess koha-sites.conf is never generated during install 21:30 jcamins koha-sites.conf? 21:30 jcamins eythian: how do you change the domain that the packages are using? 21:28 cait good night :) 21:28 Oak good night :) 21:28 Oak i know 21:28 cait go to bed! :) 21:28 cait oh yes you should 21:28 Oak 2:30 am here. must sleep myself 21:28 cait 23:27 21:28 cait yes 21:28 Oak Hello cait what time is there... time to sleep huh 21:27 cait hi Oak 21:27 cait not for long :) 21:27 Oak oh look cait is here 21:25 rangi bbiab 21:21 cait hehe 21:21 wahanui rumour has it interesting is sometimes bad or sometimes good 21:21 cait interesting 21:21 jcamins Yup. 21:21 cait so substring is good? 21:21 cait hm? 21:19 rangi yup 21:19 jcamins Bang, no more TEXT columns. 21:19 jcamins If you're writing a custom report, just use SUBSTRING(barcode, 0, <your barcode length>) 21:19 jcamins rangi: I wouldn't be concerned about that. 21:18 rangi you are running on disk anyway 21:17 rangi cos if they are small 21:17 rangi but depends again on how big your temp tables are 21:17 rangi would be slower 21:17 rangi select barcode, stuff 21:17 rangi altho, reports would be hit 21:17 jcamins Queries that didn't use SELECT * could cut down on that, though. 21:16 jcamins True. 21:16 rangi that that will already be an issue 21:16 rangi well there are enough text columns on biblio, biblioitems and items 21:16 jcamins The index issue applies only in 3.23 and 4.0.<14 21:15 rangi hmmm 21:15 jcamins The MEMORY storage engine doesn't support BLOB/TEXT. 21:15 jcamins No, that's a hard rule. 21:15 rangi theres a zillion things you can tweak 21:15 rangi probably depends a lot on how big you allow mysql to make temp tables 21:14 rangi *nod* 21:14 jcamins s/yet/anymore 21:14 jcamins (because in-memory temporary tables can't handle them) 21:14 jcamins Looks like that may not be an issue yet, but joins that include TEXT columns are more likely to use disk. 21:12 rangi sekjal: we'd have to check that index thing, since if indexes had to be read from disk, that would hurt circ performance a lot 21:11 eythian > After 65,536 characters, the location bar no longer displays the URL in Windows Firefox 1.5.x. However, longer URLs will work. I stopped testing after 100,000 characters. 21:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6633 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, NEW , Self Checkout Return Item button disappeared Renew Item button doesn't work 21:11 jenkins_koha ian.walls: Bug 6633: SCO return button doesn't work 21:11 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #451: SUCCESS in 47 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/451/ 21:11 eythian yeah, there's no limit in the RFC, IE has a 2,083 limit. 21:11 sekjal was just think if people used QR for barcodes and put URLs in there for their item barcodes 21:10 rangi jcamins: if thats true, that would definitely be a blocker to changing to text 21:10 eythian hmm, not sure there is a limit, aside from what webservers can handle 21:09 eythian oh 21:09 cait hi wizzyrea :) 21:09 wizzyrea the carrying capacity of an unladen african swallow 21:09 rangi how long can a url be/ 21:09 eythian what would I know? 21:07 rangi eythian: would know for sure 21:06 rangi in old browser 256 21:06 rangi but yes if thats true, that would be a blocker 21:06 sekjal how long can a URL be? 21:06 rangi not sure, would have to check 21:05 wizzyrea hi cait :) 21:05 jcamins Has that changed? 21:05 jcamins At least, I think that's what it said. 21:05 jcamins rangi: according to High Performance MySQL, indexes on TEXT fields always have to be read from disk, and can't be cached in RAM. 21:04 cait hi rangi :) hi koha# 21:04 rangi hi cait 21:04 rangi it was in 1999 21:04 rangi the diff in storage between text and varchar is not worth worrying about in 2011 21:03 rangi why not let them 21:03 rangi if someone wants to put a novel in 21:03 wizzyrea which makes perfect sense 21:03 rangi well i don thtink the barcode has to be 20 21:03 wizzyrea and you can't have dupes 21:03 wizzyrea right 21:03 rangi cos they all get truncated to the same 21:02 rangi wizzyrea: thats cos all the rest match it 21:02 sekjal should we have varchar in fields that allow freetext entry in the GUI? 21:02 wizzyrea but doesn't do the rest 21:02 wizzyrea yes, exactly - it truncates the 1st 21:01 * wizzyrea checks that 21:01 rangi could be 21:01 wizzyrea sorry I should have looked at that >.< 21:01 wizzyrea or if the original barcode is over 20 21:01 wizzyrea I think it dumps them all if it rolls over at all 21:00 wizzyrea is what i meant 21:00 wizzyrea yes, that 21:00 rangi dont have one with 20 digits that will rollover 21:00 rangi 20 is ok 20:59 rangi 9999999999999999999 20:59 wizzyrea don't have a barcode with 19 digits that's gonna roll over 20:59 rangi dont start one on 20:59 wizzyrea if you want to add 10 items 20:59 rangi thats the db limit 20:59 wizzyrea so 20:59 rangi 20 20:59 wizzyrea so it doesn't add the items. 20:59 wizzyrea 1. it truncates the barcode, and can't add any more digits 20:58 wizzyrea well that explains it then 20:58 rangi yep 20:58 wizzyrea is there a limit to the length of the barcode? 20:58 wizzyrea dumb question 20:58 wizzyrea erm 20:58 druthb Hello, Oak! 20:58 Oak heya druthb 20:57 * wizzyrea tries one more thing 20:54 rangi $itemrecord = $record; 20:54 rangi push @errors, "no_next_barcode"; 20:54 rangi if ($oldbarcode && !$testbarcode) { 20:54 rangi my $testbarcode = $barcodeobj->next_value($oldbarcode) if $barcodeobj; 20:54 sekjal so we need to look at the next_value subroutine 20:54 wizzyrea so that's probably bad. 20:53 wizzyrea and it doesn't tell you that it didn't add them 20:53 rangi barcodevalue = $barcodeobj->next_value($oldbarcode) 20:53 wizzyrea certainly it doesn't add if you run into a duplicate 20:53 sekjal how does the "add multiple" deal with barcodes on the copies? 20:53 wizzyrea btw I'm growing to very much like the new layout on the items page. 20:52 * wizzyrea ponders 20:52 rangi its plausible thats happening 20:52 rangi if the barcode is a duplicate 20:51 rangi it will silently not add them 20:51 rangi if (!$exist_itemnumber) { my ($oldbiblionumber,$oldbibnum,$oldbibitemnum) = AddItemFromMarc($record,$biblionumber); 20:51 rangi $exist_itemnumber = get_item_from_barcode($barcodevalue); 20:51 * wizzyrea tries that 20:51 wizzyrea it might be related 20:50 rangi i wonder if its jamming cos it hits a barcode 20:50 wizzyrea not in the sequence 20:50 wizzyrea a completely new barcode string 20:50 rangi i didnt on the 55 one, that might be the issue 20:50 wizzyrea oh, let me try this 20:50 wizzyrea yea 20:50 rangi are you puttingin a barcode? 20:50 libsysguy sekjal maybe it was a fluke 20:50 * wizzyrea starts another bib 20:50 wizzyrea bizarre -- i have seen it at least 3x now 20:50 rangi and i can easily see thats more than 10 ;) 20:50 libsysguy hmm it checked out to me fine...and the other patron seems to be ok as well 20:49 rangi 55 works 20:49 wizzyrea maybe it's only 10 20:48 rangi 11 works 20:48 wizzyrea because it just happened again. 20:48 wizzyrea now I have to find it! 20:48 wizzyrea that makes it do it 20:48 wizzyrea there is some condition 20:48 rangi yep i just did 15, lemme try another record 20:47 wizzyrea not 0 20:47 wizzyrea 0 20:47 wizzyrea now make the last number of the barcode not - 20:47 wizzyrea ok 20:47 sekjal libsysguy: verify the patron has their branchcode set properly, that you are indeed logged into a branch as staff, and that the item has both it's home- and holdingbranches set 20:47 rangi i did 20:47 wizzyrea try it on one with items already on it 20:47 wizzyrea oo 20:46 rangi yeah master seems ok too 20:46 wizzyrea let me try something else 20:46 rangi heh 20:46 wizzyrea ok, that is weird, because I just had it work 20:46 libsysguy other than just doing a print from that function ? 20:46 rangi wizzyrea: was trying 3.4.x ill try master now 20:45 sekjal depends on your CircControl syspref 20:45 sekjal branch is a little more complicated 20:45 sekjal the patron category and item type should be easy to get 20:45 sekjal GetIssuingRule(), I belive 20:45 libsysguy sekjal what function is that...it all looks right on the staff side 20:43 wizzyrea ? 20:43 libsysguy gotcha sekjal 20:43 wizzyrea with a barcode 20:43 wizzyrea did you do it 20:43 * wizzyrea tries again 20:43 wizzyrea weird! 20:43 rangi wizzyrea: i just added 12 20:42 rangi hmm and i cant replicate either 20:42 sekjal libsysguy: first, figure out what branchcode/itemtype/patron category are being passed to the circ rules 20:42 libsysguy other than the logs :p 20:42 libsysguy im not really sure where to start looking for a code error 20:42 libsysguy the item type is set correctly in items 20:41 libsysguy ok so I have something weird happening...I have an item that is supposed to check out for 3 hours...but is checking out for 4 weeks...I thought maybe a circ rule was messed up but there is no circ rule that is set to checkout for that long 20:41 rangi it will add as many as you pass it 20:41 rangi the perl doesnt care 20:41 * wizzyrea will look 20:40 rangi wizzyrea: its the js 20:40 ropuch Dev install is on, some cataloging already goin, so I guess I;m almost there 20:39 Brooke ropuch++ 20:39 Brooke eggsellent 20:39 ropuch And I'm convincing one my librarian friend to switch to Koha 20:38 Brooke translation+ 20:38 ropuch Struggling to get some more free time to work on translation 20:37 ropuch fine 20:37 wizzyrea how are you? 20:37 wizzyrea hi! 20:37 ropuch Hi wizzyrea [; 20:37 ropuch yup 20:35 wizzyrea that one's funny 20:35 huginn 04Bug 6944: normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Cannot add more than 9 items at a time 20:35 wizzyrea http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6944 20:25 Brooke ahoy nengard 20:24 jenkins_koha Starting build 451 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 20:21 maximep wow, been a while since I saw a net split, or however u call it these days 20:21 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6633: SCO return button doesn't work <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a291cc52ca79ed11e0032e73b380b17f3bf308cb> 20:18 * oleonard wonders off home 20:18 Brooke cheers 20:18 * Danielle wanders off - hit-up a coworker about Tivoli commands than off to dinner with my parents to give them the good and bad news. 20:03 Danielle Also tossed some brake pads in the order since that beast goes through them. 20:02 Danielle Choke cable went snap a couple weeks ago and the brake pedal return spring became bored with life Monday night. 20:01 trea um, wow 20:01 Brooke teh ohnoes 20:01 Danielle Brooke: I think it's like a couple bits on my motorcycle presently - broken! 20:00 Brooke Dani are you skating over the interwebs plug again> 19:58 druthb :D 19:57 Brooke yo! 19:57 druthb o/ 19:42 Danielle Only reason I didn't do the boot camp this summer was that I had to be out of town for the actual try-outs. 19:42 Brooke "Nutters." 19:42 Brooke I look at rollerderby and go 19:42 Brooke I happily played american football 19:42 Brooke rollerderby is not a sport for the weak of heart 19:42 Brooke those bastard children were mercilessly picking on me lunge last night 19:41 Danielle Season tickets for the local AAA baseball team here, and some friends are trying to get me into rollerderby. 19:41 rangi there will be more ;) 19:41 * Danielle sees she missed a couple sports convos. 19:35 Brooke I can put Car Wash in your head instead ;) 19:35 ropuch You've made it, I'm listening ghostbusters' them ;> 19:34 Brooke aye 19:34 ibeardslee so they can disappoint the people that remember it from childhood, but get cash out of them anyway 19:33 * Brooke strikes a Shakespearean pose and sulks. 19:32 Brooke why must they remake art?! 19:32 Brooke ick 19:32 ropuch Bugbusters ;-P 19:32 ibeardslee there is talk of remaking that :( 19:32 Brooke who you gonna call? 19:31 * Brooke giggles. 19:31 ibeardslee as long as you don't cross the streams 19:28 Brooke aww my da told me to think about my cross tabs. <3 19:20 rangi :) 19:19 sekjal now, it's either derby, or that PhD... 19:19 rangi ahh that sux 19:19 sekjal put the breaks on things 19:19 Brooke doh 19:19 sekjal but the she discovered she had mono 19:19 sekjal rangi: she's considered going out for the team, even tried once when we were in Rhode Island 19:18 rangi hi ropuch 19:18 ropuch Evening #koha [; 19:18 Brooke 0/ 19:13 Brooke turning the world one person at a time 19:13 Brooke you kiwis 19:13 rangi sekjal: awesome, sarah play? 19:13 rangi works on mahara.org 19:12 sekjal one of our non-library friends just made the team this year, too 19:12 sekjal several library folks in the area are into it 19:12 rangi yep, emigrated here about 4 years ago 19:12 maximep rangi: no u didnt 19:12 rangi maximep: did I tell you I work with someone from quebec city? 19:12 Brooke geology? 19:11 Brooke kia ora 19:11 rangi I forget her derby name, but they are all funny 19:11 rangi sekjal: she plays for smash malice 19:08 sekjal rangi: cool 19:08 rangi im sure bg will get me to a mets game at some point :) 19:08 rangi my kids kindergarten teacher plays 19:08 rangi sekjal: yep, in wellington too 19:08 rangi ohh cool maximep 19:06 jwagner We need to get you to a REAL game :-) 19:06 maximep right next to where i live 19:06 jwagner rangi, that was a minor league baseball game -- doesn't count! 19:06 sekjal rangi: do you have Rollerderby in NZ? 19:06 rangi :) 19:06 rangi so I just walked up on the night 19:06 maximep we are supposed to get a team in Quebec in the next years 19:05 maximep haha 19:05 rangi columbus was easy, cos the bluejackets are horrible 19:04 maximep saw only 1 nhl game 19:04 rangi great game to watch 19:04 rangi I've been to 2 hockey games, one in columbus, one in pittsburgh 19:04 maximep but it's really hard to get tickets to see the canadiens :/ 19:04 rangi figured :) 19:03 maximep big fan of hockey, like everyone here 19:03 rangi maximep: how about hockey? 19:03 rangi definitely 19:03 maximep I wish the Expos were still in montreal so that I could experience it one time 19:03 rangi :) 19:02 rangi oh and Nahuel and jwagner too 19:02 rangi that was with oleonard and bg and paul 19:02 JesseM well rangi we are going to have to change that next time your over here :) 19:02 * rangi has only ever been to one baseball game 19:01 JesseM Yep and they still lost in extra inning 19:00 rangi gotta cheer your team even when they are sucking, thats the rule :) 19:00 rangi ahhh 18:59 JesseM it was fun. They had no chance to make the playoffs so the stadium was empty 18:58 rangi heya JesseM, how was the mets game? 18:56 JesseM Hey rangi! 18:55 rangi bus im on is flying a big samoan flag, man I hope they pull off a miracle win tonight 18:53 rangi morning 18:52 wizzyrea it doesn't even add the 1st. 18:52 wizzyrea and if you do say, 12 18:51 wizzyrea oooo 18:49 wizzyrea it's not urgent. 18:49 * wizzyrea will just file a regular old bug for it 18:48 wizzyrea just add lots of sets of 9! 18:48 wizzyrea i mean, that's not a huge thing really 18:47 sekjal wizzyrea: very interesting... 18:46 wizzyrea put in 10 and it adds only the 1st 18:46 wizzyrea only up to 9 18:46 wizzyrea add multiple items can't do double digit adds. 18:46 wizzyrea well i'm entertained anyway 18:46 wizzyrea lol, here's a fun bug 18:34 f18 w8w8 :) 18:34 wizzyrea :P 18:34 wizzyrea easily. 18:34 wizzyrea with butter? 18:34 wizzyrea stick it in the 952 and it should slide in like butter. :) 18:34 f18 thank you!!! 18:34 wizzyrea so, if you have item info in your MARC record 18:34 f18 i understand 18:34 wizzyrea but that is what Koha expects 18:34 wizzyrea ISIS may not have kept the info there 18:33 wizzyrea item info is held in the MARC 952 fields 18:33 wizzyrea there we go 18:33 wahanui The 952 field is used by Koha to store item data in MARC21 and is described at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Holdings_data_fields_%289xx%29 18:33 huginn wizzyrea: unknown tag 952 18:33 wizzyrea @marc 952 18:33 wahanui The 952 field is used by Koha to store item data in MARC21 and is described at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Holdings_data_fields_%289xx%29 18:33 huginn wizzyrea: unknown tag 952? 18:33 wizzyrea @marc 952? 18:33 f18 the funny thing is, there was never a item management in ISIS, just one of the records AND the information of the amount of the books/items behind the record 18:32 oleonard Or is you question, how do I get item records out of ISIS? 18:31 f18 thats my question - how can I create items for the imported record 18:31 f18 but when I import everything into the catalog, there are no items for the record 18:31 f18 i have the tag 300 and the number 1 (for one item) 18:29 oleonard I mean, why, not what. 18:29 oleonard What do you need to define the number of items attached to a record? 18:29 f18 i got the work to transform a whole ISIS system into a koha system and I've never worked with any kind of library software... and the only thing I have are the marc21 records from the old system 18:26 oleonard Why do you ask f18? 18:21 f18 is there a possibility to define the number of items of a record in a tag? 18:14 wahanui hmmm... searching faq is at http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/searching/ 18:14 wizzyrea searching faq? 18:13 f18 hello! I imported marc21 records into the catalog, but there are no items for the "bibs". could that be a reason why I can't find any record through the search? 18:04 sekjal ;) 18:04 libsysguy but I only caught that becuase I've been swimming in the hourly code 18:04 sekjal stupid shift key 18:04 sekjal what? 18:04 sekjal ;0 18:04 sekjal ... that's even weaker than regex 18:04 libsysguy its not even regex...its just an eq 18:04 sekjal that sounds like weak regex 18:03 libsysguy so even 1 hour has to say 1 hours 18:03 sekjal oh yeah, that's got to be fixed 18:03 libsysguy you have to say hours 18:03 libsysguy becuase if i say hour...it defaults to day 18:03 libsysguy you have to type it in...I think it should be a drop down 18:03 libsysguy well I think there could be some confusion on how you differenciate between hourly and daily... 18:02 wizzyrea file an *enhancement* bug that depends on the original. 18:02 sekjal libsysguy: are these for convenience sake, or do the make/break the workflow? 18:02 wizzyrea you know what I mean. 18:02 wizzyrea ;) 18:02 wizzyrea don't be daft. 18:02 libsysguy well they aren't bugs...just enhancements :p 18:02 wizzyrea and make them depend on the original hourly ticket 18:01 wizzyrea you could add the bugs 18:00 libsysguy I just don't want to put them into this ticket since its already huge 18:00 * wizzyrea had no idea magnus was a robot fighter http://boingboing.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/magnus-robot.jpg 18:00 libsysguy although when it goes into master I would like to make a few usability changes 17:59 wizzyrea right 17:59 libsysguy since we have both types ;) 17:59 libsysguy with and without 17:59 libsysguy yes I have 17:58 wizzyrea I trust that you've tested *with* the rules, and they are working 17:57 libsysguy correct wizzy 17:57 sekjal the translation of existing data 17:57 wizzyrea checking everything still works with no hourly rules defined 17:57 wizzyrea ok, so 17:57 sekjal ah, okay 17:57 libsysguy no its just controlled by the circ rules 17:57 sekjal something you can toggle? 17:56 sekjal libsysguy: is it syspref controlled? 17:56 libsysguy yeah for those libraries who don't want to use it 17:56 wizzyrea well, a lot of that is making sure that stuff still works as it's supposed to with hourly off, right? 17:55 sekjal but will need to be checked for the right data display 17:55 sekjal templates shouldn't be much of a problem 17:55 sekjal functionality verified there 17:55 sekjal to other C4 routines, as well as script code 17:54 sekjal any other subroutines that are changed in C4 will need to be traced out 17:54 wahanui sekjal: huh? 17:54 sekjal wahanui: you lie like a rug 17:54 libsysguy yeah there were a lot of changes in the calendar 17:54 wahanui sekjal, I didn't have anything matching calendar 17:54 sekjal wahanui: forget the calendar 17:54 wahanui somebody said the calendar was up through the middle of October at this point. We're on one-week sprints, due to some appointments I have here and there. 17:54 sekjal the calendar 17:54 sekjal fines and notices will need to be addressed 17:53 sekjal testing not only the new hourly functions, but that all the old functions are preserved 17:53 sekjal a full workup of the new circ rules 17:53 libsysguy yeah it needs to be 17:53 sekjal the testing is going to be pretty extensive 17:52 libsysguy hehe wizzyrea 17:52 JesseM :) hehe 17:52 wizzyrea gentle rubbing only. 17:52 * wizzyrea protects sekjal - no poking the qa manager! 17:51 libsysguy just keep poking sekjal JesseM hehe 17:51 wizzyrea what testing does it need? 17:51 JesseM Hoping it makes it in to Koha soon! 17:50 JesseM libsysguy++ 17:50 maximep *need to 17:50 maximep I will probably need test hourly loans, but only in a few weeks :/ 17:49 libsysguy JesseM was asking me about it 17:49 libsysguy I know that other library in Cali has been wanting to move to Koha but hourly is holding them back 17:49 sekjal I have not had time to test it any further yet 17:49 libsysguy hows hourly looking 17:49 libsysguy speaking of 3.6 17:49 wahanui libsysguy is Koha's hottest developer or partying with swedes on his deck 17:49 sekjal hey libsysguy 17:49 maximep cool =) 17:48 libsysguy yo sekjal 17:48 sekjal maximep: it's too late to get into 3.6, but we can certainly look it over and hopefully get it into 3.8~ 17:47 maximep this was one of the first feature I did in Koha... and in perl, so I hope the code isn't too bad =) 17:45 sekjal maximep: I've actually had a couple of our partners ask about that! 17:43 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6943 enhancement, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW , Create new budget from a copy of a previous budget 17:43 maximep Any comments on if bug 6943 is a good idea and was the good way to do it ? 17:09 wahanui The 952 field is used by Koha to store item data in MARC21. or <reply> 952 is described at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Holdings_data_fields_(9xx) 17:09 huginn slef: unknown tag 952 17:09 slef @marc 952 16:59 wizzyrea yeap, probably prudent 16:58 nengard was waiting for feature freeze :) 16:58 nengard yeah the new ones i've got on my list 16:58 wizzyrea HA 16:58 * wizzyrea starts at A and works down. 16:58 wizzyrea or new things. 16:58 wizzyrea k 16:58 nengard let me know if you find a funky help file .. there are some in there that i may have missed in 3.4 that i'll want to update for 3.6 16:58 wizzyrea oki doki - nengard++ for the super quick signoff ^.^ 16:57 nengard :) 16:57 nengard sure 16:57 wizzyrea yay - more like that then? 16:57 nengard wizzyrea signed off 16:50 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6940] Add reports library and schema to reports online help <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6940> 16:25 wizzyrea nengard, something like this: http://screencast.com/t/Uly1iplMW9M6 16:20 wizzyrea even if you're in html mode. 16:19 wizzyrea because it thinks they are unsafe 16:19 wizzyrea the visual editor always tries to strip out script elements 16:19 wizzyrea that's why it did it. 16:19 nengard yes 16:18 wizzyrea visual and html 16:18 wizzyrea i.e. you have 2 tabs? 16:18 wizzyrea but you have the visual editor enabled, right? 16:17 nengard that's what i'm saying 16:17 nengard but i was in the html editor 16:16 wizzyrea it happens ;) 16:16 wizzyrea visual editor, probably 16:16 nengard sorry ? and what did i do? i just added a link 16:16 wizzyrea nice 16:16 nengard http://koha-community.org/documentation/ 16:15 nengard i edited the page in HTML mode and added the 3.6 link but it broke the search 16:15 wizzyrea broke what 16:15 nengard wizzyrea ? um ? i broke it 16:14 wizzyrea ya that's fine 16:13 nengard it might be a bit too much info, i was thinking links to the right chapter/section and a search the manual link 16:12 wizzyrea http://www.google.com/cse?cx=003732456596742799141:blgwqpc1on8&q=reports 16:12 wizzyrea on reports 16:12 wizzyrea as an example, something like this 16:12 nengard wizzyrea i mean what search will you be running? 16:11 oleonard Is it "legal" to put a link to a book review in the 856 tag? 16:09 wizzyrea it did happen while you were gone ^.^ 16:09 wizzyrea I guess you missed the fact that I added searching to the manual? 16:09 wizzyrea heh 16:09 nengard search results for what search? 16:08 wizzyrea or I could even do a link to the search results 16:08 wizzyrea as the search there searches all of the manuals 16:08 wizzyrea okies, then I'll do the links - was just gonna send them straignt to k-c.org/documentation 16:07 nengard go for it :) 16:07 nengard yuppers! 16:07 wizzyrea well, work is easier if it's shared right? 16:06 nengard wizzyrea it is a-ok with me, but I'm about to go through all the help files and prep them for the release so i can do it if you want 16:05 wizzyrea nengard: ok with you if I go through the online help and add a link to the manual to every page? 15:44 trea aw, shucks. 15:38 Oak that means all of you 15:38 Oak kia ora dear ones 15:31 rhcl_away off to LITA, bye-bye 15:25 oleonard See, if the error message was better it would have told me I had AllowOnShelfHolds turned off. :P 15:22 reiveune bye 15:22 * oleonard is tired of the uninformative error messages on request.pl 15:21 * oleonard is a glutton for punishment... Working on tags code, wondering if I should take a break and look at holds code 15:15 wizzyrea *poof* 15:15 * wizzyrea ruins your productivity for the day 15:15 wizzyrea :P 15:15 wizzyrea you should watch Quantum World as well. 15:14 * wizzyrea mentions what while you're watching melodysheep videos 15:14 * oleonard goosebumps 15:14 wizzyrea it's pretty great at 2:45 as wel 15:14 trea epic giggling solo by Yoda 15:13 wizzyrea love it at 2:15 15:13 oleonard I'm surprised Lucas didn't go back and replace him with CGI for the Blu-ray. 15:13 wizzyrea somehow him being 'nimbler' makes him less impressive. 15:13 trea that is no joke oleonard 15:12 wizzyrea HA 15:12 oleonard Man, the Yoda of Empire kicks the Prequels' Yoda's butt. 15:12 libsysguy i feel like rangi should have posted this 15:12 trea "turn on captions if understand him you do not." 15:11 trea word 15:11 wizzyrea try that 15:11 wizzyrea http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GITb6rzpTWM 15:11 wizzyrea oh geez 15:11 wizzyrea http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=melodysheep%20yoda&source=web&cd=3&ved=0CCoQtwIwAg&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DGITb6rzpTWM&ei=U4qETrOXEYqvsAK74aHQDw&usg=AFQjCNFAaX8nvTxBMmxY85VPnPBpoZCjZA 15:11 wizzyrea I give you 15:11 wizzyrea with that 15:11 wizzyrea it is *awesome* that you read that in Yoda's voice 15:08 libsysguy is it crazy that I read that in Yoda's voice? 15:08 trea have a good morning, you will. 15:08 wahanui sekjal was last seen on #koha 17 hours, 56 minutes and 41 seconds ago, saying: cheers, all [Wed Sep 28 21:11:01 2011] 15:08 libsysguy seen sekjal 15:08 libsysguy morning yoda_wizzyrea 15:07 wizzyrea morning guysyslib 15:07 libsysguy morning #Koha 15:02 * oleonard thinks perhaps gmcharlt is the only one who might have been there when the label was composed 15:02 oleonard Is the label "Tags from this library" supposed to disambiguate whether the tags are part of the MARC record? That the tags are user-added? 14:58 trea hehe 14:58 trea wizzyrea++ 14:58 wizzyrea that's correct 14:55 trea as i understand it, the point of the dropbox mode is working on the assumption that the overdue item has to be transferred from a remote "dropbox" to the library, thus granting the item a 24 hour rollback in it's fine status, correct? 14:54 trea somebody want to answer a quick question about DropBox Mode? 14:54 trea morning Koha 14:09 maximep nengard: thanks for looking at my patch! Looking into the date format problem 13:49 kf bye :) 13:49 oleonard bbiab 13:49 * jwagner hushes oleonard and goes back to sleep 13:47 * oleonard bangs some pots and pans to make sure everyone is awake 13:02 huginn kmkale: Quote #132: "<oleonard> nengard: It depends what time zone Jesus uses I think" (added by druthb at 02:07 PM, May 20, 2011) 13:02 kmkale @quote random 13:02 huginn kmkale: Quote #148: "<oleonard> sekjal wants EVERYTHING in a matrix! <sekjal> I'm like the Anti-Neo" (added by wizzyrea at 05:11 PM, August 25, 2011) 13:02 kmkale @quote random 08:15 wahanui hello, hdl 08:15 hdl hi 08:04 kmkale kf the cast comes off on 17th october. then maybe some physiotherapy. but i am back in office regularly now.. 08:03 kmkale to emails 08:03 kmkale usually they respond same day.. 08:02 kmkale better give a phone call 08:02 paul_p kmkale, I sent a mail on monday to 3 of the hotels you've pointed on the conference site, to get some information (we are 3 should I book 2 rooms or do you have something for 3 ?) , and I got no feedback from any. Is it common with hotel in india ? Should I wait more or send another mail ? 08:01 kmkale not fully paul_p. typing with only left hand is hard :( for a right handed parson.. 08:00 paul_p kmkale, how are you ? You've recovered ? 08:00 paul_p hello kf & kmkale 08:00 kf hi kmkale, how is your arm? 08:00 kmkale hi kf paul_p 07:38 kf morning #koha 07:15 francharb hello everyone 07:03 paul_p hello #koha. BibLibre is back to office... 06:44 kmkale using git how do i hard reset a branch back to a particular commit number say cfece89a441d419df29600c659940bdd6b6da67e 06:43 cait hi reiveune and bye #koha :) 06:41 reiveune hello 05:31 cait hmpf 05:30 rangi :) 05:30 rangi yes 05:30 cait rangi: trying to add to my todo list? :) 05:12 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6938] The "Subscription History" public and private note fields have gone missing <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6938> 05:11 rangi id probably push a patch that does either, as long as its consistent :) 05:07 rangi its on their site, saying effective immediately 05:07 rangi ok, i say, change the sql to be 999 05:06 rangi yup 05:06 cait have you read my comment? :) 05:06 cait I saw that, it's linked from the koha blog 05:06 cait yep 05:06 rangi http://www.oclc.org/developer/news/daily_noncommercial_usage_limi 05:06 cait or perhaps ask if the terms have not been updated? 05:06 rangi altho 05:05 cait yeah, seems better 05:05 rangi we should stick with what theri terms and conditions say 05:04 rangi http://www.worldcat.org/affiliate/webservices/xisbn/app.jsp 05:04 rangi 499 is right 05:04 rangi The xISBN Web service is free for non-commercial use when usage does not exceed 500 requests per day. Free usage is governed by the WorldCat Affiliate Terms and Conditions. See the xISBN API for instructions. 05:03 cait and I am still not sure - see comment 05:03 cait and I only wondered what is the correct value :) 05:02 rangi i was just happy to get a librarian submitting bugs directly :) 05:02 rangi cool 05:02 cait you will see 05:02 cait let me finish my bug comment 05:01 cait there is a nother bug from nicole 05:01 cait yep 05:00 rangi so one of them needs to change 05:00 rangi VALUES ('XISBNDailyLimit',499, 04:59 rangi which doesnt make sense 04:59 rangi by default and the text says leave it at 999 04:59 rangi 499 04:59 rangi i think the syspref sets 4999 04:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6935 enhancement, P5, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , SYStem preference XISBNDailyLimit preference text error 04:55 cait bug 6935 - have they changed the policy again? 04:54 cait evening rangi 04:51 rangi hi cait 04:43 cait hi eyhian 04:43 eythian evening cait 04:43 cait morning #koha 04:23 rangi yeah 04:16 eythian We really need an option for date placeholders in reports. 03:55 wajasu \0 03:42 * Danielle does the wave. ;) 03:36 Brooke 0/ 03:32 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6937] Change "fines" message on circ page to "Fees & charges" <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6937> 03:04 eythian Φ 03:02 Danielle \o 02:38 Brooke 0/ 01:52 eythian that's worth noting 01:51 wajasu i know when i applied the fix against my older production system, it did not work, so the fix must depend on some newer 3.4.4 fix as well. 01:50 wajasu ok. I'll work on making a patch tonight. 01:50 eythian A broken PDF tends to include the error message, so maybe it broke somewhere else on their system 01:49 eythian Make a patch, submit it, let people test it. 01:49 eythian It might be. Maybe they did it wrong. Or maybe you missed an instruction. 01:49 wajasu last night I changed one line in create-label-pdf.pl and my diacritics show up for authors now. two others tried it, and got a broken PDF. I wonder if the function, or the version of PDF::Reuse I am using is newer. 01:46 eythian just, document it 01:46 eythian test what you have 01:46 wajasu or must it be 5.8? 01:45 wajasu might the version of perl matter? 5.12.1 vs 15.14? 01:45 eythian just the library/package versions you tested under. 01:44 eythian The distro itself doesn't matter 01:44 wajasu i'm on archlinux. 01:44 eythian It's easier that way 01:44 wajasu should i be on a debian distro? 01:44 eythian yes 01:43 wajasu should i set up a git clone dev environment against master? 01:43 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2246 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, cnighswonger, NEW , Label printing doesn't work with Unicode characters 01:43 wajasu i want to try to patch bug 2246. a couple of folks tried the one line change, but had a problem generating the PDF. I don't know why it worked for me. Maybe I need to try against a target set of versioned components (perl, cpan modules, koha).