Time Nick Message 23:26 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6651 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, NEW , koha-upgrade-to-3.4 fails when multiple instances are present 23:26 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6609 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Clean up guided reports dictionary entry process 23:26 jenkins_koha * robin: Bug 6651 - fix splitting of names when updating to 3.4 23:26 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6609, Clean up guided reports dictionary entry process 23:26 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 6458: Incorrect translation processing / results 23:26 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 6458: Incorrect translation processing / suggestion 23:26 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 6458: Incorrect translation processing / sco-main.tt 23:26 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 6458: Incorrect translation processing / serials/... 23:26 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 6458: Incorrect translation processing - rotating_collections/... 23:26 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 6458: Incorrect translation processing / opac-detail.tt 23:26 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 6458: Incorrect translation processing / cataloguing/... 23:26 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 6458: Incorrect translation processing / acqui/... 23:26 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 6458: Incorrect translation processing - masthead.inc 23:26 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 6458: Incorrect translation processing / 3x reports/... 23:26 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6458 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, ASSIGNED , incorrect parsing result in translation processing 23:26 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 6458: Incorrect translation processing / authorities.tt 23:26 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 6458: Incorrect translation processing / review.tt 23:26 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 6458: Incorrect translation processing / overdue.tt 23:26 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 6458: Incorrect translation processing - doc-head-close/open.inc 23:26 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #409: STILL UNSTABLE in 46 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/409/ 23:20 trea hey rangi 23:20 rangi hey trea 23:12 rangi its the new cataloguing standard, designed to replace AARC2 23:12 rangi nope 23:10 kulps is it a deprecated standard? 23:08 rangi if you really want to despair, read up on RDA 23:08 rangi its the standards that are the problem, they constrain what the systems can do 23:07 kulps poor MILS students... getting graded on systems so annoying. 23:07 rangi welcome to library standards 23:07 kulps if that's it though, I guess I give it a shot. 23:06 kulps it doesnt look like it's ever been maintained... 23:06 kulps I found that and thought I fell through a timewarp 23:06 kulps hmm 23:03 rangi http://www.loc.gov/marc/faq.html <-- is about the best there is 23:03 rangi but its the current standard, so we have to live with it 23:02 rangi marc21 is designed to be inscrutable, retarded and extremely annoying 23:02 rangi kulps: nope 22:59 kulps Hey folks, where can I learn about the marc framework? I tried to add a book, but the z39.50 lookup didnt return a control number identifier, I'd like to be able to correct issues like this on my own insteaf of having to ask/lookup all the time. Are there any good "marc21 for newbies" guides available? 22:47 chobbs sekjal: no worries :) 22:47 sekjal chobbs: hmmm, interesting mystery. love to help, but I've got to dash 22:45 chobbs Oddly, one patron (me) can log in with LDAP (confirmed by changing my koha password to something differnet. But a different (student) patron cannot log in to OPAC with LDAP, but can with Koha pw. 22:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5602 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, srdjan, ASSIGNED , Improve configurability of package building scripts 22:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6750 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, NEW , Guarantor search broken on translated templates 22:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6256 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED , Many bib1 attributes missing 22:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6665 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, NEW , advancedMARCeditor preference not functioning 22:45 jenkins_koha * robin: Bug 5602 - [3.4.x] Rewrite of package building script 22:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6555 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , only 10 lists in pull down when adding from a bib record 22:45 jenkins_koha * m.de.rooy: 6256 Follow up fixing typo 22:45 jenkins_koha * f.demians: Bug 6750 Guarantor search broken on translated templates 22:45 jenkins_koha * ian.walls: Bug 6256: Many bib1 attributes missing 22:45 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Follow up for 6665 : Fixing the hide_marc pref also 22:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6732 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , Missing Title for Manual Invoice 22:45 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 6665 : TT problem was preventing AdvancedMARCEditor pref from working when cataloguing 22:45 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 6555 : only 10 lists show in the staff client 22:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6724 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, brett, ASSIGNED , Holds Ratio does not allow decimals 22:45 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 6732 : Showing the bibliographic title on the manual invoices line 22:45 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Updating about file and history doc 22:45 jenkins_koha * brett: bug 6724: enable decimals on values greater than 1 22:45 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.4.x build #42: SUCCESS in 1 h 22 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.4.x/42/ 22:44 sekjal chobbs: glad to hear! 22:44 chobbs rangi and sekjal, thanks for the assist. I have LDAP sort of working. 22:40 jenkins_koha Starting build 409 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #385 25 j ago) 22:40 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 6716: Document suggestions DB table 22:40 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 6716 - Define reports_dictionary table 22:40 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 6716 - Document holiday tables 22:40 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 6716 - Document subscriptionroutinglist table 22:40 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 6716 - Documents the virtual shelves tables 22:40 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 6716 - Document z3950servers table 22:40 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 6716 - Documentation for the messages table 22:40 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 6716 - Documentation for the fieldmapping table 22:40 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 6716 - Document the systempreferences table 22:40 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 6716 - Document roadtype table 22:40 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 6716 - Document reviews table 22:40 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 6716 - Definition for the overduerules table 22:40 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 6716 - Document opac_news table 22:40 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 6716: Documentation for the letter table 22:40 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 6716: Documentation for the itemtypes table 22:40 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 6716: DB Documentation for the branchrelations table 22:40 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 6716 - Definition of the branchcategories table 22:40 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 6716 - Statistics Table Documentation 22:40 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 6716 - Issues Table Documentation 22:40 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 6716 - Cities Table Documentation 22:40 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 6716 - Borrower Attributes Tables 22:40 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug6716 - File Cleanup 22:40 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 6716 Documenting two Branch Group tables 22:40 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 6716 - Branch table documentation 22:40 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 6716 - Deleted Biblio Table 22:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3498 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, ASSIGNED , Allow partial fine payments 22:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6716 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, ASSIGNED , Database Documentation 22:40 jenkins_koha * colin.campbell: Bug 3498 [ENH] Allow Partial Payment of Fines 22:40 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Adding the 155th developer to the history 22:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6517 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, magnus, ASSIGNED , koha-create wants "use database" in DEFAULTSQL 22:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6857 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, ASSIGNED , Show a warning if placing a reserve will incur a cost 22:40 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 6716 - Deleted Borrowers MySQL 22:40 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: While testing the commits for 6716 I discovered a couple of missing 22:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6861 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, NEW , Fast Add returns to circulation page in all cases 22:40 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 6716 - MySQL Table Documentation - Biblio Table 22:40 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 6716 - MySQL definition for authorised values table 22:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6863 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED , covers missing from shelf browse for various services 22:40 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 6716 - Document Borrowers Table 22:40 jenkins_koha * magnus: Bug 6517 - [REVISED] koha-create wants "use database" in DEFAULTSQL 22:40 jenkins_koha * meenakshi.r: Bug id:6783 - Circulation restrictions dont work when other withdrawn reasons are used 22:40 jenkins_koha * nengard: Follow up to Bug 6857: Change language from 'reserve' to 'hold' 22:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6860 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED , syndetics covers not showing on search results or shelf browse 22:40 jenkins_koha * robin: Bug 6857: display a charge warning alert for reserves 22:40 jenkins_koha * ian.walls: Bug 6861: Fast Add returns to circ/circulation.pl in all cases 22:40 jenkins_koha * ian.walls: Bug 6863: Shelf Browser images not showing up 22:40 jenkins_koha * ian.walls: Bug 6860: SyndeticsClientCode improperly scoped on many OPAC pages 22:40 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bumpding database version 22:40 jenkins_koha * ian.walls: Enh 6165: Add OPACResultsSidebar system preference 22:40 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #408: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 h 24 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/408/ 22:36 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6651 - fix splitting of names when updating to 3.4 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ae022e9a22a4631216c43399609d8aae62d23fb5> / Fix for Bug 6609, Clean up guided reports dictionary entry process <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6ba210af184930f530bb6ed458fbf1034f52c734> 22:26 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 4945] Patron search is limited by default to the currently logged-in library <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4945> / [Bug 5226] MARC21 field 545 missing <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5226> 22:21 sekjal make them first-class citizens of the ILS 22:21 * sekjal is having a bit of fun figuring out how to fix up authorities 22:08 rangi like i say, that was unrelated to his real problem 22:08 rangi chobbs: it doesnt result in an undef subroutine 22:08 wizzyrea lkater peps 22:05 sekjal update, and ye shall be cured! 22:05 chobbs I'm off to git it :) 22:05 sekjal chobbs: yes 22:05 chobbs So if I update git I should be good as well? 22:05 chobbs But how does a busted mapping result in an undefined subroutine? And can I back that out in my git repo? 22:04 rangi so latest master is clean 22:04 rangi that checkpw_ldap was a red herring, and yes the commit causing it has been pulled 22:04 chobbs wow, I sure hope that's a bot :) 22:04 rangi his real problem someone had changed the the ldap setup on server side, and his mapping was busted 22:04 * sekjal chuckles at wahanui 22:04 wahanui wizzyrea: I forgot real problem 22:04 wizzyrea forget the real problem 22:03 sekjal chobbs: this was as problem with CAS authentication bugfix, which has subsequently been pulled 22:03 rangi no that was unrelated 22:03 wahanui the real problem is using squid as a reverse proxy .... thats a bad idea :) 22:03 rangi the real problem 22:03 chobbs Not sure how a weird LDAP server configuration makes Koha report an "Undefined subroutine" error. 22:03 rangi chobbs: the guy had 2 issues going on 22:03 wizzyrea http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Htp-to-tt-conversion 22:02 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6823 blocker, P5, ---, gmcharlt, RESOLVED INVALID, ldap auth broken in 3.5.10 master 22:02 chobbs Hi all! Why must LDAP be so frustrating :) I had it working before. Now I'm getting the error reported in bug 6823, but fankly the submitter's claim that he solved it on the LDAP side makes little sense. 22:02 sekjal great for academic institutions where many professors are authors of works kept by the library 22:01 sekjal can be wired to other people in more than just a "guarantor/guarantee" relationship 22:01 sekjal much more extensible 22:01 wizzyrea hmm 22:01 jcamins Heh. 21:59 sekjal and move all the contact and other info into the borrowers Authority Record 21:59 sekjal strip down the borrowers table to the bare minimum of system-required information (name, cardnumber, branchcode, category code, dateexpiry, flags, etc) 21:59 rangi yep 21:59 wizzyrea cool, i'll just grab your mail message and slap it in one then 21:59 rangi there were a bunch of emails tho 21:59 rangi nope 21:59 wizzyrea rangi is there a wiki page for the HTP -> TT conversion process? I couldn't find it 21:59 sekjal oooh, fun Friday idea (coming at you a few days early): 21:46 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'kc/new/bug_6458' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=74b62cd752942b13b9e15a4d1e49ccf45b19ab69> / Bug 6458: Incorrect translation processing / results <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=282a2d60b830b22661cc0324a84b7c17b7b905d1> / Bug 6458: Incorrect translation processing / suggestion <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/? 21:45 nengard i'll talk to you all later 21:45 nengard okay alll my eyes don't want to stay open 21:42 rangi cya magnuse 21:41 * magnuse wishes #koha a good night (or other time of the day) 21:41 nengard i'm talking to you all :) 21:41 rangi good 21:41 nengard rangi i'm not working 21:39 wizzyrea hehe 21:39 rangi that would be better than working ;) 21:39 rangi you could rescue my plants in monsterworld 21:38 nengard and then i'll close the laptop and sleep 21:38 nengard they'll be back soon 21:38 wizzyrea hehe 21:38 nengard and wanted to say hi to my other family 21:38 wizzyrea oooo 21:38 nengard so i'm alone 21:38 nengard everyone left to get dinner 21:37 * nengard waves back 21:37 wizzyrea but, i'm super glad you are feeling well so far 21:37 * magnuse waves to nengard 21:36 wizzyrea have a rest :) 21:35 wizzyrea lol put down the keyboard 21:35 nengard Brooke++ 21:35 nengard awesome 21:35 nengard Brooke came to see me!!! she's awesom 21:35 wizzyrea hehe 21:35 wizzyrea = good 21:35 wizzyrea but making it the 2nd time 21:35 nengard all 21:35 nengard but wanted to say hi to you a.l 21:35 wizzyrea dying = bad 21:35 nengard am a bit drugged adn typing funny 21:35 nengard ::) 21:34 wizzyrea oooo 21:34 nengard they got me up to walk and the first time i thought i'd die ? the second i walked up and down the hall 21:34 wizzyrea have you had your first walk with the new hip? 21:34 rangi yay! 21:34 nengard pretty darn good 21:33 rangi nengard!!! how you doing? 21:32 kulps it's not exactly a good reflection on ones self, hey... 21:31 magnuse not sure i'd want my face in the paper along with that story... 21:31 magnuse heh 21:29 wizzyrea hehe! 21:28 rangi http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/fan-central/5611874/South-African-tourists-19-000km-off-track 21:22 jenkins_koha Starting build 42 for job Koha_3.4.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 21:15 jenkins_koha Starting build 408 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #385 25 j ago) 21:15 jenkins_koha rangi: job koha_master build scheduled now 21:15 rangi !jenkins build koha_master now 21:14 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'kc/new/enh/bug_6716' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=35e3aa9a3758a62f00c430b017fa9ce90dc36def> / Bug 6716: Document suggestions DB table <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6a6edfeec8c1bb3ad090be49dbb175b0d9cbd432> / Bug 6716 - Define reports_dictionary table <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdif 21:10 jenkins_koha rangi: job koha_master build scheduled now 21:10 rangi !jenkins build koha_master now 21:10 magnuse kulps++ 21:07 kulps :) 21:07 kulps a better understanding of all the other features I'm not yet using 21:05 rhcl well, what more could you possibly want? 21:05 kulps now I just need to go home and catalog the rest 21:05 wizzyrea yay! 21:05 kulps I only have one record in, but it's searchable, it pulls the amazon jacket and doesn't throw errors when adding records 21:04 rhcl congrats! 21:04 kulps ladies and gents, it looks like I've got a basic, but working, install 20:58 sekjal it would serve could serve as a thesaurus for broader, narrower, related and obsolete terms 20:57 rhcl An OPAC would primarily be for patron's right? I'm thinking patrons might not really need to see much from the authority records? 20:52 sekjal so, if y'all wanted to browse authority records in the OPAC (or staff client, whichever), what info would you want to see about an authority? 20:46 rangi cya libsysguy_class 20:46 wizzyrea byee 20:46 libsysguy_class later #Koha 20:46 libsysguy_class ok gotta run 20:46 libsysguy_class right right...they might killme if i break prod again 20:46 wahanui backups are every night...and nothing changed this morning 20:46 wizzyrea backups! 20:46 rangi do it on a test machine first of course ;) 20:46 libsysguy_class doh 20:45 libsysguy_class ohh I can merge 20:45 rangi (substitute kc for origin or whatevere you call upstream) 20:45 rangi git merge kc/master 20:45 rangi libsysguy: checkout -b my_hourly kc/new/awaiting_qa/bug_5549 20:44 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 3498 [ENH] Allow Partial Payment of Fines <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=507c7f422485aaf7ae601b0a84bacdbaedac061c> 20:43 * libsysguy wishes hourly was in master so he could track it again 20:43 rhcl Speaking of regex, I casually wonder if rexx might not have some value with generating reports in Koha? Maybe sometime when my tech assistant is lesser employed I'll sic it on him as a research project. 20:43 rangi http://soundcloud.com/dashtotald/dash-totald-tea-party <-- to celebrate 20:43 * wizzyrea cheers 20:42 rangi 3498 is in the wild .. or at least in master 20:41 fcapo hi 20:41 rangi hi fcapo 20:39 wizzyrea for you whippersnappers. 20:39 wizzyrea http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAYHQWz3i7I&feature=related 20:38 druthb lol 20:38 maximep wow, got it after u said he was too young haha 20:37 libsysguy awww 20:37 * druthb thinks libsysguy is TOO YOUNG to understand the reference. 20:37 libsysguy well thats disappointing :p 20:37 wizzyrea lol no 20:37 libsysguy wizzyrea: is that a regex? 20:35 druthb hi, rangi. :D 20:35 rangi heya druthb 20:35 wizzyrea we're gonna stay at the " \o/ ^o^ /o/ /o\ 20:34 druthb ^.^ 20:34 druthb \o/ 20:34 oleonard 'o' 20:33 druthb \o 20:32 magnuse o/ 20:26 rhcl My TS supervisor wants to do reports on item record notes. 20:25 rangi :) 20:25 * magnuse did suggest it to cait, yes... ;-) 20:24 magnuse there was a somewhat similar position in stavanger in the south west of norway not too long ago 20:24 rangi :) 20:24 rangi hmm cait 20:24 magnuse ah yes, well developer-librarians are few and far between in this neck of the woods 20:23 rangi i just thought you might know someone ;) 20:23 magnuse rangi: yup, but i think i'll try and stick with libriotech a little longer... ;-) 20:22 rangi magnuse: you saw the job in sweden eh? 20:17 pastebot "rangi" at 202.78.240.7 pasted "for maximep" (14 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/34 20:16 sekjal all in one commit together 20:16 sekjal oleonard: they were part of the same contracted development, even though they are distinct features 20:15 * oleonard is surprised to see searching and editing linked as goals, but would be happy to see both 20:15 jcamins_away I think RHCL was talking about that advanced search feature. 20:15 sekjal advanced search would introduce a new page with more search fields, and also a means for bulk-editing of patrons 20:14 sekjal talljoy: unified search routine is just to make the existing search we have work consistently in different contexts. right now there are two routines, each doing it a little different 20:14 * wizzyrea will have a poke-see 20:14 wizzyrea k 20:14 sekjal wizzyrea: I'm not sure the bug report (if there ever was one) 20:11 talljoy ? 20:11 wizzyrea oh it's one of THOSe 20:11 wizzyrea sekjal do you know the bug for the advanced patron search 20:11 talljoy what is unified patron search versus advanced patron search? 20:11 sekjal MassCat paid for a feature to do that, and they're interested in getting it back now that that particular bit of code has been released 20:10 sekjal which is something else 20:10 sekjal and there is also "advanced patron search" 20:10 wizzyrea :) 20:10 wizzyrea ^^ 20:10 sekjal talljoy: there is the "unified patron search subroutine" work, which is in testing 20:10 talljoy lol. those guys are so busy. hate to bother them some times. 20:10 wizzyrea hehe don't 20:10 * talljoy feels abit chagrined for not asking there first......oops 20:09 wizzyrea by bywater, no less. 20:09 huginn 04Bug 6253: normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, srdjan, ASSIGNED , Unified Patron Search subroutine 20:09 wizzyrea http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6253 20:08 talljoy i found an 'abandoned RFC' for it in the wiki. 20:08 wizzyrea I thought there was... sec 20:08 wizzyrea like, searching on extended attributes? 20:08 talljoy search by address or phone number 20:08 wizzyrea define advanced patron search? 20:07 talljoy ? 20:07 talljoy is there active development on an 'Advanced Patron Search' functionality 20:07 jcamins_away magnuse: it's a little strange looking. 20:07 jcamins_away magnuse: no idea where, though. 20:06 magnuse jcamins_away: cool! 20:06 jcamins_away magnuse: it was at one point. I remember looking at it. 20:05 magnuse yeah, didn't get that far... 20:05 rangi could email them magnuse 20:05 magnuse is the bnv catalogue public? i tried to find it a while ago, but had no luck 20:05 rangi cya cait 20:05 wizzyrea gnite cait 20:04 cait night all 20:04 wizzyrea oo yea 20:04 rangi id guess delhi public is busy 20:04 wizzyrea and they do in fact run koha, so there's that. 20:04 wizzyrea but we do know that BNV has 7 million volumes, and that's quite a lot 20:03 rangi there are thousands of users we know of, and highly likely thousands more we dont 20:03 rangi kulps: we have no idea, its all self reported 20:02 rangi ah I might have misremembered 20:02 oleonard They must have done a smidge of weeding 20:02 rangi its actually apache that suffers 20:02 wizzyrea wait it says 7 million volumes 20:02 rangi writes are ok 20:02 rangi libsysguy: actually innodb row locks 20:01 kulps just curious, again, most users? 20:01 kulps neat 20:00 jcamins_away rangi: 30 million records? Wow! 20:00 magnuse Biblioteca Nacional de Venezuela http://www.librarytechnology.org/lwc-displaylibrary.pl?RC=927 20:00 libsysguy writing locks the tables :'( 20:00 libsysguy ^^ 20:00 rangi its transactions that put load on 20:00 rangi its not a worry 19:59 rangi I have a zebra with 30mil records in it 19:59 rangi ie how much stuff changes 19:59 wizzyrea 9 million bibs? 19:59 rangi amount of circ is the interesting thing 19:58 rangi doesn't do much circ 19:58 rangi national library 19:58 wizzyrea there you have it :) 19:58 libsysguy o.m.g 19:58 libsysguy 0_0 19:58 wizzyrea x9 apparently 19:58 rangi in venezuala 19:58 rangi 9 mill 19:58 wizzyrea pretty big, a million + bibs 19:58 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6855] bullet point showing in wrong place on error message <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6855> 19:56 kulps I've been wondering, how big is the biggest koha deployment? 19:56 magnuse kulps: you will, and that is a great feeling! ;-) 19:55 kulps eventually I'll get this right! 19:54 kulps alright, will do 19:54 rangi id do that 19:53 kulps I dont mind dropping and rebuilding the instance, since I've only got 2 records in it 19:53 kulps does this entry seem correct? 19:53 kulps http://lists.katipo.co.nz/public/koha/2011-February/027571.html 19:53 rangi but I dont know the framework set up so dont know what is or isnt mandatory 19:52 rangi you'd have to ask someone from france about unimarc, but theres no reason it shouldn't work with the packages 19:51 kulps can I easily change or do I have to re-setup? 19:51 kulps noted 19:48 rangi marc21 19:48 rangi canada uses, a 19:47 magnuse i think in connection with the packages, marc21 has been tested more than unimarc, but both should be pretty stable, and i can't think why unimarc would not work i the packages... 19:47 kulps canada 19:46 wizzyrea (marc21 is "american marc") 19:46 wizzyrea where are you, kulps? 19:43 kulps I had no solid reason to chose either one, if marc21 is more stable I'll happily go back to it 19:43 magnuse hm, not sure how much that has been tested... 19:42 kulps should I change to marc21, I wasn't really sure, I read that unimarc was better for multicountry and was having trouble finding entries with my last build (which I used marc21 for) 19:42 kulps yes 19:41 cait 995 - are you using unimarc and the packages? 19:41 magnuse kulps: marc21 or unimarc? 19:39 kulps magnuse helped me quite a lot 19:38 kulps I just built it this morning using the debian package 19:37 kulps all in 995 19:37 kulps then call number 19:36 kulps copy note 19:36 kulps as default as can be trusted after my failed attempt to compile myself 19:36 rangi and what is the first subfield its complaining about? 19:36 rangi kulps: haven't seen that before, default framework? 19:32 magnuse s/sitatuin/situation/ 19:32 magnuse i only read the headline, i see it says no spill, but a fear of loosing control of the sitatuin 19:30 wizzyrea but I admit that's the first article I've looked at 19:29 wizzyrea looks like more of a "problem at a nuclear plant that doesn't involve radioactivity" 19:29 wizzyrea http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/europe/09/12/france.nuclear/index.html 19:29 cait nuclear spill??!! 19:28 kulps when I try and create an item for a biblio record I get the following message, 1 mandatory fields empty (see bold subfields), when I check the marc structure, the bolded subfiels is not listed as mandatory. If I ignore the subfield and try to add the item again it errors on another subfield that is also not listed as mandatory. Any thoughts? 19:28 * wizzyrea has not read the news today 19:28 magnuse that's not too much! 19:28 wizzyrea nuclear spill! 19:28 paul_p about 100km 19:27 magnuse paul_p: how far is the nuclear spill from marseille? 19:27 paul_p hello magnuse 19:27 magnuse kia ora paul_p 19:23 * magnuse wrote that in the wrong window... 19:22 oleonard yes, that 19:22 magnuse did you see that job at the world maritime uni, btw? 19:20 * oleonard checks his email and finally understands what everyone was talking about 19:06 rhcl It is the sort of position you'd like to hear about a year in advance, so you could study up on the subject... 19:05 rhcl Ah, Ok, so that has "Confidential, Secret, and Top Secret" 19:05 * wizzyrea starts a campaign to convince you 19:05 wizzyrea see, easy enough. 19:05 huginn wizzyrea: Specifics pertaining to the security classification associated with the document, title, abstract, contents note, and/or the author. In addition, it can contain handling instructions and external dissemination information pertaining to the dissemination of the document, title, abstract, contents note, and author. The field may also contain downgrading or declassification data, the name of the (1 more message) 19:05 wizzyrea @marc 355 19:04 rhcl yea, and I'd be interviewing, and they'd ask what information goes in the 355 field, and I'd say something like "rare, medium, or well-done". 19:04 magnuse ;-) 19:04 magnuse aka "the ocean" 19:03 rhcl http://www.flickr.com/photos/enger/6140606719/ <-- pond, big pond 19:03 magnuse i'm sure you could figure out the librarian bits as you go along! 19:02 rhcl tempting thought...tempting.... 19:01 wizzyrea see? you should totally apply ;) 19:01 rhcl The job requirements list does include a lot of sysadmin stuff... 19:01 kulps hmmm, is it a known issue that a marc record not marked as mandatory would throw an error when left blank during item creation? 19:00 wizzyrea idk 19:00 wizzyrea speak swedish? 19:00 wizzyrea when in sweden 19:00 wizzyrea but you know 19:00 trea yea, only asks for strong english skills 18:59 magnuse i'm not sure you need swedish for that job at the maritime university 18:59 * magnuse doesn't have a pond 18:58 Danielle That I was a sysadmin and not a librarian is why I switched jobs in 1999-2000. 18:58 magnuse yay 18:57 rhcl Besides, I want to go work in Norway where I can go fishing in magnuse's pond and eat reindeer steak. 18:56 wizzyrea technicality, really. 18:56 rhcl I ain't a librarian. I'm a sysadmin. 18:56 wizzyrea maybe you should apply ;) 18:56 rhcl And to work on a project standing up something fantastically interesting like a "global center of maritime information". 18:55 wizzyrea beyond Tack så mycket 18:55 rhcl So you learn Sweedish. How hard can it be? I learned Korean. 18:54 rhcl I think it would be a great opportunity. 18:54 wizzyrea (and I don't speak swedish) 18:54 wizzyrea (really, it is.) 18:54 wizzyrea that's really tempting, but I'm cool I think :) 18:54 rhcl so wizzyrea: you gonna apply for the job in Se? 18:54 wizzyrea rangi I think 18:53 maximep because theres chances we will setup one internally for testing koha 18:53 maximep who setup jenkins.koha-community.org ? Id be curious to have a look at the config 18:50 cait in other words: evil untranslatable stuff :( 18:44 wizzyrea heh 18:44 wizzyrea Payment, thanks is another one 18:43 wizzyrea looks like: Dora's slumber party! 09/08/2011 18:41 * wizzyrea wonders what native koha descriptions look like, if anything 18:41 libsysguy yeah I think so too 18:41 wizzyrea yea, it looks like a lot of that depends on how it is migrated in 18:41 libsysguy I have stuff like OVERDUE fine migrated from Unicorn on Letter to my daughter / (0000001865062) in descripton 18:41 wizzyrea somewhere along the line 18:41 wizzyrea something they type in 18:40 wizzyrea yea, note is generated by the librarian 18:40 libsysguy both of those fields are populated 18:40 libsysguy apparently I need note and description 18:40 wizzyrea is in my data 18:40 wizzyrea stuff like "Ars Magica /OVERDUE" 18:40 wizzyrea yea, description is what you want 18:39 wizzyrea right, note is the bit you type in 18:39 libsysguy ah ha there is a description in there 18:39 wizzyrea accountlines.note 18:38 wizzyrea accountlines I think 18:38 libsysguy maybe it is close to there 18:38 libsysguy where is the description of charges held? 18:38 libsysguy hmm 18:38 wizzyrea no note in issues 18:37 libsysguy i think it might be the issues note? 18:36 wizzyrea there are tons of notes all over the place 18:36 cait public note or opac note from items? 18:36 libsysguy bib note? and the description of charges 18:35 wizzyrea or the bib note 18:35 wizzyrea the patron note? 18:35 libsysguy ohh i think she just wanted the note 18:35 wizzyrea items.barcode, 18:35 wizzyrea probably something like items.itemnumber, biblio.title, biblio.author, items.itemcallnumber, 18:34 wizzyrea that's what my peeps always want 18:34 libsysguy me either...im asking 18:34 cait the barcode, the title of the item, some other field? 18:34 wizzyrea sec 18:34 wizzyrea probably title/author 18:34 cait not sure what she meant 18:34 cait there is no field with that name 18:33 libsysguy Margo said she wanted the item description? 18:33 wizzyrea with itemnumber you can get bibnumber 18:33 cait do you mean the title of the book? 18:33 wizzyrea well issues will have an itemnumber 18:33 cait description of th item? 18:32 libsysguy but I can't really find the description field either lol 18:32 libsysguy i am running a report to get the amount of fines per patron...which i stole from the wiki...but I want to put in the description of the item 18:31 wizzyrea what are you trying to ascertain? 18:28 libsysguy is it issues? 18:28 libsysguy how do I link borrowers to biblios 18:20 libsysguy hey cait :) 18:20 cait hi libsysguy and sekjal :) 18:20 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6431 enhancement, P5, ---, chris, NEW , New Circulation modules for Hourly Circulation 18:20 libsysguy sekjal have you seen bug 6431 18:16 wizzyrea *nod* busy workin :) 18:16 * libsysguy wanders in...its so quiet 18:01 wizzyrea :D 18:01 magnus_afk gotcha! 18:01 trea or what have you 18:01 wizzyrea no su after two (drinks) 18:01 magnus_afk a ha! 18:01 wizzyrea 2 drinks :) 18:01 magnus_afk am or pm? 18:00 wizzyrea frankly, after 2, I'm probably not thinking about work at all anymore. 17:59 trea hehe 17:59 magnus_afk hmf 17:59 trea buncha teetotalers:P 17:58 magnus_afk ah :-) 17:58 trea well, people who don't like to sysadmin under the influence apparently. :P 17:57 magnus_afk who says? 17:55 trea "don't su after 2", as they say. 17:51 magnus_afk very cool, wizzyrea :-) 17:50 wahanui wine is not usually the best for programming :) 17:50 slef wine? 17:46 * oleonard-away did not know that 17:45 wizzyrea wine is not an emulator, you know 17:45 wizzyrea actually that's wine for mac 17:45 wizzyrea :) 17:45 * oleonard-away wonders about the icon on wizzyrea's menu bar which turns red when it's time for another glass of wine 17:44 cait oh! 17:44 wizzyrea awfully purty 17:43 wizzyrea magnuse: http://screencast.com/t/t0qIPvyCo 17:41 magnus_afk ooh ;-) 17:41 * wizzyrea sets that as her desktop background 17:40 magnus_afk thanks ;-) 17:40 wizzyrea o 17:40 wizzyrea great phot 17:40 wizzyrea gorgeous 17:40 * magnus_afk looks out of the window http://www.flickr.com/photos/enger/6140606719/ 17:34 magnus_afk the packages are awesome! 17:33 magnus_afk yay 17:30 kulps great success 17:29 kulps :) 17:29 kulps I was too literal 17:29 kulps koha-conf.xml 17:28 magnus_afk i think it's in /etc/koha/sites/YOURSITE/ ? 17:27 kulps magnus_afk, I tried to locate koha-config.xml and came up with nothing, did I miss a step somewhere? 17:06 fredericd For those intersted, the state of my 'thinking' and test about splitting and shriking Koha Git repository: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Git_Splitting_and_Shrinking 17:06 magnus_afk you will find it in the koha-config.xml of an instance 17:05 magnus_afk password is randomly generated 17:05 magnus_afk username is koha_instancename 17:04 kulps does koha-create also follow kohaadmin/katikoan or does it use another username/password? 17:01 magnus_afk no problem! 17:01 kulps sorry to bother you with such trivial things 17:01 magnus_afk yay 17:01 kulps success 16:57 magnus_afk kulps: yeah, it should be more like this: http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=debian/scripts/koha-create;hb=dedc0e1e1c1e79d8e72f1c52d05979031b1acb3c#l117 ;-) 16:55 kulps magnus_afk: I feel, and the system agrees, that I did this wrong http://pastebin.com/J0zTYKwW 16:48 kulps okay 16:48 kulps yeah? 16:48 magnus_afk what i would do then, if i were you, is to just fix koha-create by hand, and then it will be fixed for good next time you update the packages 16:47 magnus_afk hehe, yeah! 16:47 kulps neat, well I certainly don't begrudge having to do a little legwork to make it go, it's a lot better than building my own ILS 16:46 magnus_afk the fix for your problem was added to 3.4.x 9 days ago according to git, and the most recent package is probably slightly older than that 16:45 kulps and now I'm using the package 16:44 kulps so I thouhgt I'd just start again 16:44 kulps the nice folks here told me that the deb package was up to date 16:44 kulps anyway... 16:44 kulps and when I went to rip it out I learned I had no zebra daemon 16:43 kulps but then my indexing was fubared 16:43 kulps I had compiled it this weekend since not everything says that 3.4.4 is available by package (and I wanted the latest... right) 16:43 magnus_afk are you building your own packages or using the ones from debian.koha-community.org? 16:42 kulps I have the git clone going now 16:42 kulps just trying to get it setup at all though 16:42 kulps not production 16:41 magnus_afk depends on whether you are just "fooling around" or running things in production ;-) 16:40 magnus_afk the quick and (very) dirty way would be to just make sure koha-create looks like this around line 117: http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=debian/scripts/koha-create;h=fee39b788931f761bd6dc0a822550e832ec20d9b;hb=refs/heads/3.4.x#l117 16:39 kulps :) 16:39 kulps I'm not great with linux, so I'm currently reading how to use git to get that patch 16:37 magnus_afk or update to the latest version from git - depends on how you are running things 16:35 kulps k 16:35 magnus_afk hm, i would get the patch, i think 16:34 kulps can I just edit it here or should I get the patch? 16:33 magnus_afk that's the problem, then 16:33 kulps sorry, the java paste was incomplete 16:33 kulps yes 16:33 magnus_afk ? 16:33 magnus_afk and then "if [ -e "$configfile" ]" 16:32 kulps # Load the configfile given on the command line 16:32 magnus_afk if it doesn't it's fixed by this patch: http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commit;h=31bb901e2b31748dd86e7da45672c42a5359c5a4 16:31 magnus_afk check if line 118 says if [ "$configfile" != "" ] 16:30 kulps I assume it's pretty recent 16:30 kulps well, I did the install an hour ago 16:30 kulps yes 16:30 magnus_afk have you got the most recent version of the script? 16:30 magnus_afk yup, it could be an error i made 16:30 magnus_afk kulps: 16:29 kulps does anybody know why koha-create --create-db lib would return "does not exist"? 16:18 cait vfernandes: then you can use tools > logs to find out 16:10 vfernandes my logs are all activated 16:09 cait if you have activated them 16:09 cait the logs should show it 16:07 vfernandes it's possible to check which was the staff responsible to do some check out? 16:05 vfernandes hi Koha comunity :) 16:02 fredericd who has 'found' 16:02 fredericd cait: or maybe rangi who has the circular dependency issue 15:48 cait hi trea 15:48 trea o/ hi cait 15:46 cait perhaps magnus_afk could? 15:46 cait or perhaps wednesday - but not so likely 15:45 cait fredericd: I can#t do it before thursday i fear :( 15:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6755 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, m.de.rooy, ASSIGNED , Problems with switching languages 15:45 fredericd cait: Would you mind testing bug 6755? 15:41 cait hi #koha 15:38 sekjal still on 9000 15:38 sekjal he was able to fix it quickly, though 15:38 sekjal wizzyrea: yes, it seems prone crashing... I got that same error message last week when Chris showed it to me 15:33 rhcl Note: the port can be changed in etherpad-trunk/trunk/etherpad/etc/etherpad.localdev-default.properties. 15:33 rhcl wonder if he changed the default port? 15:32 Bengard it's just chicken broth 15:32 wizzyrea it's neat 15:32 * oleonard didn't know about etherpad 15:31 Oak soup is good 15:31 Oak hm 15:31 Bengard soup, I think 15:31 wizzyrea but it looks like it's broken 15:31 wizzyrea http://etherpad.koha-community.org:9000/ 15:31 wizzyrea I guess it's this 15:30 wizzyrea anybody know where rangi stashed the k-c.org etherpad? 15:30 wizzyrea hrmph. 15:30 wizzyrea etherpad? 15:30 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6755] Problems with switching languages <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6755> 15:29 Oak what is she having now? 15:28 Bengard she wouldn't eat a cheeseburger if I did! 15:28 hdl Bengard: big hug from Marseille to her 15:28 wizzyrea you snuck her in a cheeseburger right? 15:27 Bengard she's trying out her first "meal" after surgery now 15:27 Bengard but will go there again 15:27 Bengard been there, done that 15:27 wizzyrea :D 15:27 Bengard she says thanks 15:27 wizzyrea if it does hurt, a gentle loving squeeze of the hand will do 15:26 Oak tell her to get get well soon and take good care of her 15:26 Bengard will do 15:26 wizzyrea well, if they don't hurt too much 15:26 wizzyrea from kansas 15:26 wizzyrea please send her hugs 15:26 Oak Hello Bengard 15:24 trea greetings Bengard 15:22 Bengard I'm here on behalf of Nicole Engard, who is even as we speak recovering from surgery 15:22 Bengard hello all 15:14 sekjal wizzyrea++ 15:14 wizzyrea it's attached to the bug 15:14 wizzyrea as a new patch 15:14 wizzyrea sekjal: I squashed the IF updates, the documentation, and the original together 15:13 reiveune bye 15:09 Oak hello #koha 15:07 hdl hi 15:00 sekjal wehoo! 14:59 * wizzyrea whips up a patch 14:58 wizzyrea and it passes with the parens. 14:58 wizzyrea best idea evar 14:58 * wizzyrea loves having selenium tests to run for this 14:50 sekjal most of it is new subroutines and scripts, and all the tests I'm hearing are positive. 14:50 * wizzyrea gets to work 14:50 kulps wizzyrea, should I see errors after running rebuild_zebra.pl? 14:50 sekjal wizzyrea: if you were to add those parentheses in, I think it'd be safe to pass it through QA 14:49 * wizzyrea scowls at being compared to John McCain. 14:48 oleonard Oh, my mistake. You're an obedient conformist. 14:48 wizzyrea dude, wasn't my patch! 14:48 oleonard ...with your casual discarding of parentheses. 14:48 wizzyrea ! 14:47 oleonard wizzyrea is a maverick. 14:47 wizzyrea to the point of sabre rattling 14:47 wizzyrea my libs really want it 14:47 wizzyrea if you'd rather I can clean them up? 14:47 wizzyrea yea, it's just those two files that don't use the parens 14:45 wizzyrea hehe 14:45 * sekjal took a second to realize that was a "one" not and "L"... was about to list the connects of my current directory 14:44 wizzyrea 1s 14:44 * wizzyrea looks at the patch 14:44 sekjal perhaps I should just do the cleanup myself and resubmit the patch with my signoff 14:44 wizzyrea well, yes 14:44 sekjal seems a rather trivial thing to reject a patch over, though... 14:43 sekjal it does not make use of parentheses in it's T:T IF's 14:43 sekjal unfortunately, if we apply this one now, we'll have to send 3498 back for modification 14:43 sekjal I'm all for standards 14:42 wizzyrea sounds like we've invented a standard for ourselves then :) 14:42 sekjal perhaps my regex-fu isn't strong enough this morning, but I cannot find a counterexample to the convention in the current codebase 14:39 wizzyrea hehe 14:39 * oleonard bows to our machine overlords 14:39 wizzyrea though, remember the style was put there by a script 14:39 oleonard I guess I'd say there's a defined standard based on what's in the templates now 14:37 sekjal hmmm 14:37 sekjal is it worth being a stickler about it, when there is no defined community style standard for it yet? 14:37 sekjal I suppose this becomes a question of coding style 14:37 sekjal okay 14:37 sekjal looks like it's not necessary, then 14:37 sekjal yes, reading that now 14:36 oleonard I see examples of [% IF foo %] on that page 14:36 oleonard http://template-toolkit.org/docs/manual/Syntax.html 14:36 sekjal but stylistically... 14:36 sekjal err, functionally 14:36 sekjal I don't think necessarily are, functionality 14:35 oleonard I don't know 14:35 sekjal are the parentheses necessary? 14:35 sekjal when doing a test for a variable's existence, I see our standard is [% ( condition ) %]. 14:35 kulps from within the gui or is there a script in the koha folder I should run?> 14:35 oleonard Sure 14:34 sekjal oleonard: T:T style question, if you have a moment 14:33 wizzyrea well, first, try a forced index 14:31 kulps hmm, reading that I'm not really sure what I need to do (with the disclaimer that I'm not a proficient linux user) 14:28 wizzyrea we really ought to update that faq to indicate the (at least 2) other reasons that searching fails 14:27 wizzyrea no worries, yw :) 14:27 kulps Thanks for pointing me in the right direction 14:27 kulps I'm glad to hear it's not insurmountable, I'm sad to see the answer was so readily available. 14:27 wizzyrea but yes, you're probably running into the fact that your zebra cron isn't running 14:26 wizzyrea typo, #4 14:26 wizzyrea see #3 14:26 kulps I searched the cataloging section 14:25 wahanui searching faq is at http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/searching/ 14:25 wizzyrea searching faq? 14:25 kulps hurray! I'm not alone. 14:25 wizzyrea every new koha user has that problem. 14:24 kulps reading the buffer it looks like somebody else had a similar issue to me overnight, I added my first items to the catalog but am unable to search them. Do I need to manually force an index of Zebra? 14:24 wizzyrea mornin 14:23 kulps Good morning (for me anyway) #koha 14:22 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3498 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, ASSIGNED , Allow partial fine payments 14:22 wizzyrea bleh, nothing on bug 3498. 14:11 oleonard Thanks 14:11 paul_p oleonard, ok, will do asap 14:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5725 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , Batch modifications for Biblios 14:11 oleonard paul_p: Could you update the previous patches on Bug 5725 and squash them? I get an error when trying to apply them because of the change to updatedatabase.pl 13:58 wizzyrea yay! 13:56 magnuse 2x yay! 13:56 druthb Just got news on nengard--her surgery was a success, and she's in recovery now. 13:55 magnuse yay! 13:55 trea kia ora norway 13:55 magnuse kia ora western timezones 13:54 sekjal morning, everyone 13:53 druthb Hi, magnuse. :) 13:53 magnuse o/ 13:53 trea morning 13:53 * trea waves 13:46 wizzyrea haha! 13:46 druthb Lindsey has discovered that she is still a child; the childproof power cover thwarted her. 13:46 * druthb waves at wizzyrea 13:45 magnuse hehe 13:45 * oleonard is now on a YouTube tour of the early nineties 13:39 oleonard Any reason why we shouldn't approve the listing of Busara Core Solutions on the pay for support page? Requested Aug 26 13:38 wizzyrea :) 13:38 wizzyrea good, uh, morning 13:34 druthb o/ 13:33 oleonard Whoa, nineties flashback. 13:33 slef http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnBi-LNM0Og 13:32 slef you started it. Happy Monday indeed. 13:31 slef oleonard: STFW 13:31 oleonard ? 13:31 slef oleonard: You're twisting my melon, man. 12:48 oleonard Happy Monday #koha 11:52 cait hi again #koha 11:16 hdl in var/log/koha-error_log 11:16 hdl more information should be provided in your koha apache logs. 11:16 hdl raj: I guess this is because you miss one library in PERL should be perlmagick or libimage-magick-perl 11:02 raj any suggestion to over come this 11:01 raj hi...when i go to more->tools->Upload patron images, i am getting error 500. 10:43 rangi thanks fredericd 10:33 fredericd rangi: I will try 10:30 cait rangi: time problem :( 10:20 rangi anyone willing to try? :) 10:20 rangi what needs to be done is marcels patch rewritten slightly so it doesnt use themelanguage from C4::Output 10:20 rangi id fix that now, but im reinstalling my laptop and dont have x on it currently, so bit hard ;) 10:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6755 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, m.de.rooy, ASSIGNED , Problems with switching languages 10:19 rangi bug 6755 10:15 rangi :) 10:15 kivilahtio rangi: so nothing illegal hapening here,... yet 10:15 kivilahtio rangi: it was a post from the internets and didnt bother to replace mason to something else 10:12 * rangi wonders why kivilahtio is doing things in masons directory :) 09:38 cait kivilahtio: hope it helps :) 09:31 kivilahtio was my next task anyway :D Thanks #Koha, you are irreplaceable as ever 09:31 kivilahtio that 09:31 kivilahtio roger 09:30 cait it should not import them if you don#t have the branchcode in your system 09:30 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6852 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Staged import reports wrong success for items with false branchcode 09:30 magnuse bug 6852 09:30 kivilahtio branchcodes were reading 0001, even if no such branccode existed in koha 09:30 cait $a and $b need to be a branchcode that is associated with a library in your branches table 09:30 kivilahtio but I previously imported the same items and they were succesfully imported even if branchcodes wereinvalid 09:30 cait then there you go 09:29 kivilahtio branchcodes are invalid 09:29 cait I filed a bug because koha reports success even when it's not correct 09:29 kivilahtio 9,a,b,c,l,o,p,y 09:29 cait do you have $b and $a with a valid branchcode? 09:29 magnuse what subfields are you using for 952? 09:28 magnuse hm, that's weird 09:23 kivilahtio and zebra is reindexed 09:23 kivilahtio even if the staging says 11 items added 09:23 kivilahtio items table in database is still empty 09:23 kivilahtio then staged 09:23 kivilahtio imported 09:23 kivilahtio yes 09:23 magnuse did you import or just stage? not sure that's a relevant question, but it's the first thing i can think of... 09:21 kivilahtio but I cannot find those items 09:21 kivilahtio i do zebra indexing with flags -b -a 09:21 kivilahtio I stage the records via the koha staff pages and it says items are succesfully staged 09:20 kivilahtio and now i am again staging marc records with item data inside the 952 fields 09:20 kivilahtio zebraidx -c /home/mason/koha/ashs/etc/zebradb/zebra-biblios.cfg -g iso2709 -d biblios init 09:19 kivilahtio dom.cfg -g iso2709 -d authorities init 09:19 kivilahtio I have trouble adding items data to my Koha 3.4. I have just emptied the biblio, items, biblioitems, auth_header, sessions and zebraqueue databases. Then reset the Zebra indexer with zebraidx -c /home/mason/koha/ashs/etc/zebradb/zebra-authorities- 09:19 cait hi magnuse :) 09:18 magnuse guten morgen cait 09:17 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6576] changing framework while cataloging looses data <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6576> 09:06 cait hi Oak :) 09:05 Oak Guten Tag cait :) 08:59 cait hi #koha 08:11 zipporah magnuse: I did but no response for a week now. Anyway let me re-email once more. 08:10 magnuse Oak 08:10 magnuse zipporah: i think i already told you i cant help you with that? it's quiet here now, not a lot of folks around, you might be better off sending an email to the list... 08:08 Oak magnuse 08:08 zipporah magnuse: I am talking about the Authorized Values in Koha 3.2. 08:07 Oak kia ora #koha 08:05 raj i am using Koha 3.02.00.004 08:05 raj Any help please 08:05 raj wen i go to more->tools->Upload patron images 08:05 raj i am getting error 500 08:04 wahanui bonjour, raj 08:04 raj hi 08:04 zipporah Good day magnuse. I remember I had posed this question yesterday and you assisted by telling me to check on the value 0. Though I put in the description instead of being blank, I still cannot batch modify from "ordered" whose value -1 to the value of 0 (zero). So what is the solution. 08:00 magnuse sorry zipporah, wahanui is just a bot trying to be friendly/clever ;-) 07:59 wahanui no idea, zipporah 07:59 zipporah wahanui: Sorry I have received your message thought I ma not sure what you already had that way. Do you mean you had blank in that field? 07:54 wahanui i already had it that way, zipporah. 07:54 zipporah Friends out there, I am failing to Batch modify the "Ordered" to "Available" (blank) status on the so many books that were erroneously entered as such. Though changing to statuses like "Not for Loan" or "Staff Collection" is working fine. So what should I do? 07:48 zipporah Thanks, I wait for some others to join in. 07:46 wahanui no idea, zipporah 07:46 zipporah wahanui: Can you assist? 07:46 wahanui i already had it that way, zipporah. 07:46 zipporah Friends out there, I am failing to Batch modify the "Ordered" to "Available" (blank) status on the so many books that were erroneously entered as such. Though changing to statuses like "Not for Loan" or "Staff Collection" is working fine. So what should I do? 07:45 zipporah Has anybody looked at my question? Any answers plse. 07:17 zipporah magnuse: Thanks though. 07:09 magnuse zipporah: sorry, i have no experience with batch modifications like that 07:08 zipporah magnuse: I can see you are logged in. Would you be able to assist? 07:08 zipporah By the way I using koha 3.2. 07:05 zipporah Friends out there, I am failing to Batch modify the "Ordered" to "Available" (blank) status on the so many books that were erroneously entered as such. Though changing to statuses like "Not for Loan" or "Staff Collection" is working fine. So what should I do? 07:00 magnuse kia ora #koha 06:57 reiveune hello 06:43 francharb hello #koha 06:43 francharb hi rangi 06:43 rangi hi alex_a, julian and francharb 06:42 julian hello! 06:23 alex_a hello 06:19 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6636] a syspref to display 'powered by Koha' text to OPAC footer <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6636> 05:26 kulps once I've added items to the catalog, do I need to refresh the database to make them searchable? 05:14 kulps hmm, is the newbie guide still being worked on? 04:50 mtj yep, im still poking at it now, so it ain't done yet 04:49 eythian mtj: I'm getting headachey from paint fumes, so I think I'm going to go and study XSLT and/or docbook for a while, away from the office. That patch may have to wait until tomorrow, but I expect it'll still work then. 04:45 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6496] authors appearing incorrectly in OPAC and Staff Client <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6496> 04:45 mtj im def. avoiding any world-cup stuff 04:38 eythian It's possible to try to avoid it :) 04:38 BobB Impossible. :) 04:37 * eythian is trying to avoid it as much as possible 04:37 BobB Great start to the World Cup guys. Party time in Wellington? 04:37 * eythian gives up 04:37 wahanui eythian: i'm not following you... 04:37 eythian wahanui: I'm not talking to you 04:36 wahanui i already had it that way, eythian. 04:36 eythian no wahanui, \I'm not talking to \you is <action>cries in the corner 04:36 wahanui i already had it that way, eythian. 04:36 eythian wahanui: I'm not talking to \you is <action>cries in the corner 04:36 wahanui eythian: what? 04:36 eythian wahanui: I'm not talking to you 04:36 BobB Hi Mason 04:36 wahanui OK, eythian. 04:36 eythian wahanui: I'm not talking to you is <action>cries in the corner 04:36 mtj heya bob 04:36 BobB He'll never get that. 04:36 wahanui eythian: huh? 04:36 eythian wahanui: I'm not talking to you 04:35 wahanui bonjour, eythian 04:35 eythian hello 04:35 BobB hi mtj, hi eythian 04:28 mtj click 04:28 mtj ooooh, and now UPDATES only, no INSERTS :) 04:26 * eythian helps. 04:26 eythian yes, there's your answer. 04:25 mtj ok, some tidying :) 04:25 mtj ah, its been renamed from sysprefs.* to system_preferences.* 04:24 mtj in master/HEAD, when (and why) was the file 'installer/data/mysql/de-DE/mandatory/sysprefs.sql' deleted? 04:22 mtj here's my daily random git Q... 04:22 kulps I look forward to being less new to koha 04:22 kulps well, I shant hold you up, I've got a whole newbie guide to read 04:21 eythian :) 04:18 kulps well I'm super appreciative of your work, manning the channel and possibly contributing to the project 04:17 kulps neat 04:16 eythian s/librarians/perl developers/ in our case 04:15 kulps future robo-librarians 04:15 kulps aww crap 04:14 eythian (we're from the future you see) 04:14 eythian it's monday :) 04:13 kulps ah, it's 22:00 where I am, so I was a bit confused why somebody would still be working on a sunday 04:08 eythian and I'm getting pretty headachey from this smell too, going to tidy up the stuff I'm doing and head off also. 04:08 eythian 16:00 here 04:04 kulps what time do you have? 04:03 rangi ok, ive had enough of hte solvent smell here at work (new carpet) im going home 04:03 kulps that too 04:03 kulps yeah 04:03 kulps no sure if the smaller suites support it 04:03 rangi so much easier to get help 04:03 rangi koha has a big active community 04:02 kulps I want the ldap integration for the space 04:02 kulps but probably I'll stick to Koha 04:02 kulps maybe I'll give it a whirl 04:02 kulps hmm 04:01 rangi nope 04:01 kulps have you ever used it? 04:01 rangi seems to be alive 04:01 rangi https://bitbucket.org/mstetson/obiblio-10-wip/ 04:01 rangi but this fork 04:01 rangi no commits in over a year, in the main repo 04:00 rangi actually yeah, it looks like a dead project 03:59 kulps mmm 03:59 rangi openbiblio 03:59 kulps obiblio or biblioteq? 03:59 rangi and is far less featureful, but a lot smaller 03:58 rangi it seems kinda orphaned now 03:58 kulps I found biblioteq 03:58 rangi http://obiblio.sourceforge.net/ 03:58 kulps no 03:58 rangi you looked at openbiblio? 03:58 kulps in case any friends ask 03:58 kulps so, is there a smaller suite that I just failed to find in my searching? 03:57 kulps that's good news 03:57 eythian you'll find it appropriately hackable once you get it going. 03:56 rangi *nod* 03:54 kulps for us the exercise is often as important as the result 03:54 kulps but 03:54 kulps I setup the virtual appliance last year when I was piloting it for the hackerspace and knew it was overkill 03:54 kulps I know, but I tried to find a smaller suite and found nothinh usable 03:52 rangi koha is a bit overkill for most hobby people 03:51 rangi we get some hobby ones too 03:51 rangi mostly fulltime 03:51 kulps so are most people here full time librarians or do you see more hobby librarians? 03:49 kulps learning experience all around 03:49 kulps oh well 03:49 * kulps sighs 03:49 kulps I am, 03:48 rangi all the perl modules are packaged too 03:48 rangi yeah you dont need to with the packages, as long as you are running debian stable 03:48 kulps so that was pretty neat 03:48 kulps I'd never used cpan before 03:48 kulps I learned a few things during the install 03:48 kulps so I've been told, I'm working on it 03:48 kulps apt-get install notsodamnhardplease 03:47 mtj everything's a pain, when you are a windows admin :p 03:47 rangi next time ;) 03:47 kulps that probably would have been a lot easier 03:47 kulps damn 03:47 rangi yes 03:47 rangi http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.4_on_Debian_Squeeze 03:47 kulps are the packages kept as up to date? 03:47 kulps noted 03:47 rangi packages are a lot easier 03:46 kulps it's been a bit of a pain, I'm pretty fresh to linux, I'm a windows admin 03:46 rangi yeah, id use the packages in future, makes upgrading easier 03:46 kulps tarball 03:46 kulps just wanted to get my hackerspaces library indexed 03:46 rangi did you install using the packages? or from the tarball 03:46 kulps my "production" library will be smaller than my library 03:46 rangi well not for your personal one probably 03:45 kulps okay, I'll make the effort if you think it's worth it 03:45 rangi id highly recommend installing using the packages and upgrading for bugfix releases, when you put it into production 03:44 kulps I only plan to use koha for my personal collection until I get a better handle on it 03:44 kulps I likely wont move until there's a feature release 03:44 kulps okay 03:44 rangi http://koha-community.org/koha-3-4-4/#more-2633 <-- that was 3.4.4 03:43 rangi it wont contain any new features, only bug fixes 03:43 rangi you can see all the changelogs on the koha-community.org site 03:43 rangi we do a one monthly bug fix release, 6 monthly feature release 03:42 kulps is there a changelog for 3.4.5? will it be worth the upgrade? 03:41 kulps I like the way the newbie guide is written, quite approachable. 03:40 rangi http://koha-community.org/home/#more-1 03:40 rangi 3.4.5 will be out september 22 03:40 rangi yes 3.4.4 is the current stable release 03:40 rangi a company hostile to the project owns koha.org and they are being particularly annoying about it 03:39 kulps so 3.4 is current then? 03:39 rangi koha-community.org is 03:39 kulps okay 03:39 rangi koha.org is not koha 03:39 kulps wiki says 3.4.4 03:39 kulps koha.org says 4.2 03:39 kulps I'm a bit confused as to what the current version of the software is 03:36 kulps rangi, thanks for the newbie guide, I'll give it a read 03:36 kulps I understand, I popped in last night and it seemed like everyone was afk, I'm not in a big rush. 03:35 mtj ooooh, i'm a little busy for a demo, right now kulps 03:35 kulps I was googling (Without great success) 03:35 rangi http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Newbie_guide <-- is good too 03:35 kulps I hadn't yet 03:35 rangi http://koha-community.org/documentation/3-4-manual-en/ 03:35 rangi you've found the manual eh? 03:34 kulps 3.04.04.000 03:34 rangi what version are you running? 03:33 kulps I'm a brutally new user and have some questions, do you maybe have time to show me the program? 03:32 mtj hiya kulps 03:31 kulps anybody about? 03:31 kulps evening folks 03:07 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5533] marking item lost diff in two places <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5533> 03:04 rangi :) 03:03 eythian awesome, author stuff refactored into templates. Now I can copy-paste and each thing is only 3 lines, not 30. 02:57 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Adding the 155th developer to the history <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=755390b5f51c83874736ac44d864855168031c94> 02:54 eythian cya 02:54 eythian heh 02:54 jcamins_away Good night, #koha. 02:54 jcamins_away Okay, time for sleep. 02:53 jcamins_away Heh. Forgot about that. 02:53 jcamins_away Oh, and me. 02:49 rangi and kf and fredericd 02:49 * jcamins_away suspects marcelr may have had something to do with it. 02:49 rangi yup 02:48 eythian a few people have done a good refactoring of koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/xslt/MARC21slim2intranetDetail.xsl though, it's a crapload cleaner. 02:48 rangi that was his MO 02:48 rangi shortcuts r us 02:48 rangi yup 02:48 jcamins_away According to git log, I was correct in my prediction of which Koha person. ;) 02:47 rangi and then indexdata and then koha people 02:47 jcamins_away Yeah, LC could have done better with their examples, too. 02:47 eythian heh 02:47 jcamins_away Well color me purple, I never woulda guessed! 02:47 rangi they came from loc 02:46 * jcamins_away looks to see who wrote the XSLT stylesheets originally. 02:46 eythian that was unexpected. 02:46 eythian wholly chao, that worked. 02:46 eythian yeah 02:45 jcamins_away True. On the other hand, if it were done right from the beginning, that wouldn't be so likely to happen. 02:45 eythian big issue I have with declarative languages: doing a relatively minor change can often result in a refactor, and if you're not careful you can take the lazy way out. 02:44 jcamins_away The opac details xslt is particularly bad for copy-and-paste code. 02:43 jcamins_away Yeah, I can't find a bug with template routines for the details display. 02:42 eythian also not in the code, as I can see exactly why it's the way it is :) 02:41 eythian not in that bug, anyway 02:41 jcamins_away Right. I thought he did that for both. 02:41 eythian Mine's detail, not results 02:40 eythian different XSLT file 02:40 jcamins_away Yeah, templates are good. 02:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5643 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, m.de.rooy, RESOLVED WONTFIX, Few new template routines in MARC21slim2OPACResults.xsl 02:40 jcamins_away Bug 5643 02:39 eythian I might have a go at putting this into a template. 02:39 eythian it's pretty nice for the staff client (in fact, the code there is a whole lot nicer in general) but not the OPAC. 02:38 jcamins_away I thought marcelr fixed that. 02:38 eythian currently it's doing "if the tag is 100 or 700, display stuff" followed by similar for 110/710 and so on, however we really want all the 100's first, then the 700's later. 02:37 eythian it's the XSLT for rendering OPAC detail 02:36 jcamins_away What's it do? 02:36 * eythian considers copy-pasting a chunk of code because he's not sure about how to rewrite it. This surely is not the answer. 02:34 eythian yep. 02:34 jcamins_away So bandwidth is a key concern for off-site backups. 02:33 jcamins_away And my download speed isn't that great here, either. 02:32 eythian I can see that being problematic... 02:31 * jcamins_away has an Internet connection with 30KB/s upload. 02:31 eythian yeah :) 02:31 jcamins_away And actual computers that one can connect a tape drive to. 02:30 jcamins_away Yeah, but you're a big operation with a data center. 02:30 eythian it'd be a drop in the bucket compared to our other stuff :) I think it ends up on tape for us. 02:29 jcamins_away Yeah, daily full backups are good, but cost a lot of bandwidth for off-site backups. 02:28 eythian ah right. We just run daily, and sync that off the machine. There's a patch going through that will save the last two days worth by default (using koha-dump) 02:28 jcamins_away However, as you can tell, I expected one might want to do hourly incrementals. 02:27 jcamins_away Full weekly, incremental daily. 02:26 eythian so do you run a full backup daily, and incremental each hour, or something like that? 02:26 jcamins_away There doesn't seem to be. 02:25 jcamins_away eythian: exactly. Arguably a bit of an overkill for a site with ~100MB/data, but it's the principle of the thing. 02:25 jcamins_away Replication is best. The idea behind this script is that it runs on the backup DB server. 02:24 eythian I guess replication is the real way of doing that. 02:24 eythian I wonder if there's a way to get them without hitting the binlog, I'd expect that larger sites would also have one or more separate db servers. 02:23 eythian *backup 02:23 eythian jcamins_away: incremental backups are a good thing, especially for larger sites, where a full packup is expensive. 02:23 rangi i set it up, dont remember it being too hard 02:23 jcamins_away Yeah. For me, the script can live happily in my cpspecial branch, but other people might need incremental backups. 02:23 eythian oh, nifty 02:22 rangi (from 2 old time koha developers) 02:22 rangi https://gna.org/projects/pem/ <-- uses that 02:22 eythian yeah. 02:22 rangi which the old site had 02:22 rangi yup, its more a nice frontend to see that stuff 02:22 eythian or, even a page on the wiki to start with where people link to gitorious or whatever pages. 02:21 eythian could create a git repo with a very easy get-stuff-accepted policy 02:21 rangi yup, we just need to set up a new contribs site somewhere 02:20 jcamins_away rangi: oh, nifty. That would be the perfect place. 02:20 eythian fair enough :) 02:20 jcamins_away ;) 02:20 jcamins_away eythian: that's in no way the finished product. It's the script that I needed to have working yesterday. 02:20 rangi for stuff thats useful, but probably not ready (yet) for mainstream 02:20 jcamins_away eythian: that's for version 2. 02:19 rangi http://contribs.koha.org/ <-- old site 02:19 eythian the docs don't say how you go about restoring a backup you've made, either :) 02:19 jcamins_away Contribs? 02:18 rangi we should resurrect that site 02:18 rangi it seems like the perfect thing to live at contribs 02:18 eythian it definitely does seem to assume that the database and koha are on the same machine. That's a bit of concern to me. 02:18 jcamins_away rangi: I know. See my above comment about not being sure it is worthy. ;) 02:17 rangi i know we dont 02:17 rangi you wouldnt nessecarily have the packages on the db server 02:17 jcamins_away I wasn't entirely sure that it was worthy of inclusion in Koha, but magnuse and druthb both gave it a resounding vote for inclusion. 02:16 eythian yeah 02:16 jcamins_away See, that's the thing. It doesn't replace koha-dump. 02:16 eythian oh 02:15 jcamins_away This _has_ to be run on the database server. 02:15 jcamins_away Wait, no, that doesn't matter. 02:15 jcamins_away Ooh. 02:15 eythian it doesn't work if the database is on another machine. 02:15 jcamins_away Hm. I was afraid that might be the case. 02:15 eythian you can't use /etc/mysql/debian.cnf to get database access information. 02:14 jcamins_away And making it into a Perl script. 02:14 jcamins_away I thought about that, but that would require completely changing the way koha-dump works. 02:13 eythian should it be those features get merged into koha-dump? 02:13 jcamins_away You can see the script as it stands now here: https://github.com/jcamins/koha/blob/cpspecial/debian/scripts/koha-backup 02:13 jcamins_away eythian: I wrote a script for backing up the Koha database. I'd like to submit it as a script to go in the packages (different feature set than koha-dump). 02:11 eythian :) 02:11 * jcamins_away hears eythian's wince from across the globe. 02:11 jcamins_away Yay! 02:10 eythian jcamins_away: yarp 02:10 jcamins_away eythian: around? 02:06 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: While testing the commits for 6716 I discovered a couple of missing <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d6417257fde4e22252c78f2def21091016db17f3> 01:09 lastnode when i modified the URL for object number = itemnumber, the correct log came up. 01:09 mtj from what you said previously , it sounds like a bug 01:09 lastnode the modification log for a record queries with teh object number = biblionumber. this caused confusion 01:08 lastnode i think i misphrased my statemetn earlier and you misunderstood 01:07 lastnode the object being queried correspondes to itemnumber, not biblionumber. which is probably expected behaviour. 01:07 mtj ... and X is not the correct bibitem, its a bug 01:07 mtj if the log says ''biblioitemnumber' => 'X' 01:06 lastnode so that makes sense then 01:05 lastnode and not biblio? 01:05 lastnode mtj: im looking at this againa dn it looks like object maps to item 01:01 mtj a screenshot attached to your bug, looks useful here 01:00 lastnode sure, ok 00:59 mtj you probably wont know that, until you log it 00:58 lastnode well i dont know if it's a bug for sure, right? 00:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1 major, P2, ---, chris, CLOSED FIXED, Missing uploadedmarc table definition 00:58 mtj i would log a bug 1st 00:57 lastnode mtj: should i put it to the list? 00:55 lastnode hmmm 00:54 mtj sounds like a bug, to me 00:53 lastnode dont want to put it to the list if it's an obvious answer 00:53 lastnode will wait 00:53 lastnode maybe rangi or someone does 00:47 eythian Unfortunately, I have no idea about that area of things. 00:46 lastnode thoughts? 00:45 lastnode whereas the 'Object' column shows the correct biblioitem id 00:44 lastnode and X is not teh biblioitem of the record im looking at 00:44 lastnode im havinga problemwith the modification log. when i loadit up for a particular record, the SQL in the log shows { 'biblioitemnumber' => 'X' 00:03 cait bye :)