Time Nick Message
22:56 eythian heh OK
22:55 rangi figured i wouldnt kill bugs.kc playing with it ;)
22:55 rangi its not apache its a big java stack, and the mod_proxy was wigging out like mental
22:54 rangi its not happy about it
22:54 rangi yeah i tried doing that
22:54 eythian although, it's got its own domain, I'd run it on :80
22:53 eythian oh, useful
22:52 rangi http://etherpad.koha-community.org:9000/
21:46 sekjal good night, #koha!
21:31 cait good night all :)
21:14 rangi cya magnus_afk
21:14 magnus_afk g'night #koha
21:12 magnus_afk good luck wizzyrea
21:12 cait good luck?
21:12 wizzyrea wish me luck :)
21:12 * wizzyrea is off to make mac and cheese for the kiddo's family pot luck at school tonight
21:12 rangi naw, thats when im no longer RM
21:12 * magnus_afk makes a note to do that ;-)
21:11 ibeardslee or earlier if the ABs choke?
21:11 rangi ask me again after october 22
21:11 cait hehe
21:10 magnus_afk we need to find a way to make rangi do it, for example to prove how easy it would be... ;-)
21:06 cait sounds so easy when you talk abou tit :)
21:05 rangi done
21:05 rangi then you can just add widgets that format that json nicely
21:05 rangi and we have a webservice
21:05 rangi and then add caching
21:05 rangi the trick is make the report engine hand out json
21:05 magnus_afk yay!
21:05 * wizzyrea squees
21:04 sekjal user. configurable. widgets.
21:02 wizzyrea oo
21:02 rangi too
21:02 rangi in the last hour 141422 items were issued
21:02 rangi id like it show things like
21:02 rangi yeah the dashboard would be good to do that
21:00 wizzyrea or on the catalogue statistics page
21:00 cait hm
20:59 wizzyrea a new builtin
20:59 wizzyrea that's what I was thinking
20:59 cait or have a new built in report
20:59 cait perhaps
20:59 wizzyrea you mean put that count on the home page?
20:59 cait I think the dashboard could do that
20:57 wizzyrea total owed in fines
20:57 wizzyrea bibs/patrons/items right now
20:57 wizzyrea you know it would be cool to have a saved report that gave you that snapshot count
20:54 wizzyrea yw
20:54 aarkerio wizzyrea, great! thanks a lot!
20:53 wizzyrea http://screencast.com/t/gepGBLxgdy
20:53 wizzyrea v
20:53 wizzyrea aarkerio:
20:51 aarkerio There is not a report page in admin section?
20:50 wizzyrea you'll probably have to add it
20:50 wizzyrea or created from sql reports
20:50 wizzyrea in your saved reports
20:50 wizzyrea select count(*) from items;
20:49 aarkerio hi where can I see how many books already are in the database?
20:48 rangi i had to do /ignore whingers who cant ignore things themselves the other day :)
20:48 rangi heh
20:47 ibeardslee /ignore rangi ?
20:42 cait :)
20:39 wizzyrea unlikely
20:39 rangi you'll be sick of me after 45 days of this :)
20:39 rangi http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWhbavFpWZk
20:37 trea heh
20:34 wizzyrea cheeky.
20:34 rangi (Not really :))
20:34 wizzyrea rly?
20:34 rangi oh look my house
20:32 rangi http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMQqogKePbI
20:32 rangi oh and
20:31 wizzyrea the add patron one is on current master, and the fines add/pay one is master + the patch
20:30 wizzyrea all good :)
20:30 maximep wizzyrea: anyway, sorry, but my install is way too far from 4.4 to help you run the entire test
20:27 wizzyrea but yes, that is very good to know... I wiill try to remember to add the help that you may need to change your base url to run the test
20:26 wizzyrea but thank you for looking it over
20:25 wizzyrea the hazards I guess ;)
20:25 maximep well there's no way your test to create a patron will work on my bd, but that's because of local changes -_-
20:25 wizzyrea thank you for your concern. :)
20:24 wizzyrea oh, idc
20:24 maximep just telling you that u might not want to share yours
20:24 maximep I know
20:24 wizzyrea open it, and set your base URL
20:24 wizzyrea at the top
20:24 wizzyrea set your base URL
20:24 wizzyrea oh oh
20:24 wizzyrea OH
20:22 wizzyrea just text right?
20:22 maximep not sure... maybe just put nothing and the user will add it
20:22 wizzyrea i mean, you could just go in, edit it to your base
20:22 maximep good question
20:21 wizzyrea ?
20:21 wizzyrea how do you make it portable
20:21 wizzyrea I see
20:21 maximep http://koha-staff.lan.nekls.org
20:21 maximep well when I open them in selenium ise it puts it as the base url
20:21 wizzyrea think
20:20 wizzyrea i hink
20:20 wizzyrea oic
20:20 wizzyrea ok, i am new to this, so I"m not sure what you mean
20:19 maximep wizzyrea: looking at them. Probably not a good idea to put a selenium.base in your test
20:16 rangi cool
20:15 wizzyrea no errors
20:15 wizzyrea well they run for me ^.^
20:15 rangi if i get a chance ill have a go
20:15 libsysguy thats the one i really need lol
20:15 libsysguy yeah hourly loans
20:15 rangi selenium is sometimes persnickety
20:14 wizzyrea if ppl want to play with selenium, I attached a couple of tests. I don' tknow if they'll work though?
20:14 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3498 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, ASSIGNED , Allow partial fine payments
20:14 cait like allowonshelfholds in circ matrix or hourly loans
20:14 wahanui rumour has it bug 3498 is a fairly old implementation that colin updated. It just popped up because I added 'needs signoff'
20:14 wizzyrea bug 3498
20:14 cait and it clashes with a lot of other stuff that could go in 3.6
20:13 cait the problem is it' s really big
20:13 libsysguy I was jw if there was a place I could check it out and poke around with it
20:13 libsysguy yes yes...circ "enhancements"
20:13 cait the big bug
20:12 cait if you mean circ enhancments that#s not so likely right now
20:12 libsysguy I thought I read something about a rewrite of circulation was coming in 3.6?
20:11 rhcl funny
20:11 rangi what circulation module?
20:10 libsysguy anybody know anything about the circulation module that is supposed to be in 3.6?
20:09 rangi ill see about setting about a dedicated one
20:08 rangi cool
20:07 cait rangi: we love it :)
20:06 libsysguy good luck
20:06 wizzyrea gl
20:06 chris_n off in search of food
20:06 * chris_n has had all of the DBIx fun he can stand for one day
20:06 wizzyrea k
20:05 cait I am postponing all that is fun until then
20:05 cait wizzyrea: ask me again on thursday?
20:03 maximep I guess I could take a few minutes to run it with selenium ide
20:02 maximep I wish I had time to help :/
20:01 wizzyrea I have a test case with the patch for 3498, i wonder if you'd care to see if my test case works for you
20:01 wizzyrea anybody out there have selenium installed?
19:52 wizzyrea whee!
19:52 maximep hundreds of hours of fun
19:52 wizzyrea cool beans :)
19:52 maximep rebasing everything on 3.6 in the next months
19:52 wizzyrea ah cool
19:52 maximep in theory it could be called a fork... but 3.2.3
19:51 maximep well
19:48 wizzyrea maximep: what version are you running?
19:48 rangi linking them together with depends etc would help a lot too
19:47 maximep hard for me to say what is different on our side :/
19:47 rangi k
19:47 maximep by fcapo
19:47 maximep most of our patches were sent
19:47 rangi noting on the bug that u are using it helps
19:47 maximep rangi: we have some changes, but pretty much, yeah
19:47 maximep well I had to mess with it today
19:47 rangi that implementation of it maximep ?
19:46 maximep but that doesnt help :p
19:46 wizzyrea please tell me you don't hate it and that it works ok :)
19:46 sekjal if it can get a signoff and through QA before the feature freeze date, then it's in
19:46 rangi if it passes qa, it'll get merged
19:46 maximep all I can tell is that were using it in production
19:46 sekjal maximep: I'd like to see that happen, assuming the testing goes well
19:45 maximep heh
19:45 * wizzyrea is only testing the available patch
19:45 * wizzyrea doesn't think to merge anything
19:45 maximep are you thinking of merging partial fines for 3.6 ?
19:45 * wizzyrea tries her best to break partial fines >:)
19:44 wizzyrea oh that could be
19:42 jwagner Or maybe not....
19:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3166 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED , Fines are summing off by 1 penny due to rounding issue when summing.
19:42 jwagner wizzyrea, that is probably due to Bug 3166
19:39 wizzyrea but the partial fines payment looks good to me, though I noted one small anomaly with the error messages - sometimes in the error messages it computes out to like 10 decimal places. but not always? will test more.
19:39 Brooke 0/
19:39 sekjal wizzyrea: it may help reduce required processing...would have to pass it through NYTProf
19:38 libsysguy exactly lol
19:38 rangi heh thats a fail sign
19:37 wizzyrea (chasing rabbits, etc)
19:37 wizzyrea sorry, that might be a rabbit
19:37 wizzyrea !
19:37 libsysguy rangi made me think of your last comment http://i.imgur.com/mplST.jpg
19:37 wizzyrea right
19:37 sekjal in commit message
19:37 wizzyrea scoped variables
19:37 wizzyrea require all the borrowers attributes to be passed as global
19:37 wizzyrea this has the same functionality as the old include but does not
19:37 wizzyrea NB: Adds a version of the include circ-menu.inc as circ-menu.tt
19:37 sekjal ah, I see it
19:36 sekjal wizzyrea: NB?
19:36 wizzyrea patrons with large numbers of checkouts?
19:35 wizzyrea er no
19:35 wizzyrea does that affect what we were talking about a few days ago on patron search
19:35 rangi got the old bus today im pretty sure its older than me
19:35 wizzyrea see the NB:
19:35 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3498 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, ASSIGNED , Allow partial fine payments
19:35 wizzyrea i'm looking at the patch from colin on bug 3498
19:35 sekjal wizzyrea: shoot
19:35 wizzyrea question
19:35 wizzyrea sekjal
19:26 aarkerio ok thanks again!
19:22 rangi ok time to go catch my bus, bbl
19:22 rangi you can use to check if its listening
19:22 rangi koha uses Mail::Sendmail which by default will try to connect to localhost port 25 to send mail, telnet localhost 25
19:20 aarkerio oh yea!
19:19 rangi postfix, or exim4 or whatever :)
19:19 rangi no, your mail transport agent
19:19 aarkerio if ( $piece->{'pref'} =~ /^$searchfield$/i ) {
19:19 aarkerio 224 line is:
19:17 aarkerio "No system preferences matched your search for MTA. You can try a different search or return to where you were before."
19:17 aarkerio I am getting:
19:17 aarkerio in /cgi-bin/koha/admin/preferences.pl?op=search&searchfield=MTA
19:16 aarkerio preferences.pl: Use of uninitialized value in pattern match (m//) at /var/www/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/admin/preferences.pl line 224.
19:15 aarkerio I apache log I am getting:
19:11 rangi see if its reaching the mta at least
19:11 rangi also check you mta logs
19:10 rangi check the apache error logs to start with
19:09 aarkerio or localize the error message?
19:09 aarkerio any idea where can I look?
19:09 aarkerio hi! I am having problems when a user wants send "Your cart" email to himself. I can send emails from command line
18:34 sekjal wizzyrea: you can set a temporary item type in the Framework as default, sure
18:33 wizzyrea under cataloging
18:33 cait fast add wat?
18:33 libsysguy lol
18:33 libsysguy i think sekjal has been thinking about this longer than I have
18:33 cait ?
18:33 * wizzyrea may be dreaming about that
18:33 wizzyrea re: the fast add notification, doesn't the fast add set a temp category code?
18:33 cait should give you the informaton to compare in the patron account with options to accept / reject
18:33 cait ´but needs some work on the address change - sending an email is not the best way to do it
18:32 cait that would be a neat feature too :)
18:32 wizzyrea ok, I thought you meant outgoing to patron "your address has been changed"
18:32 cait and not translatable (which is worse)
18:32 wizzyrea AH
18:32 cait the mail is not understandable
18:32 cait notice to librarian - address change required
18:32 wizzyrea re: address change, you know currently patrons can't update their own addresses (and that's probably right)
18:31 sekjal this is pretty neat
18:26 cait I don't hate it right now
18:26 cait :)
18:25 libsysguy i think it's ok...better than the other one
18:24 rangi and if you guys dont hate this, let me know ill set up one on my linode server for the project to use
18:24 rangi maybe=member
18:24 rangi maybe to hit the save revisions link every so often
18:24 libsysguy phew
18:23 rangi i liked my name better
18:23 * wizzyrea pinches libsysguy
18:23 rangi aww
18:23 * libsysguy wishes somebody pinch me so i can speak
18:23 sekjal yes
18:23 wizzyrea jinx
18:23 wizzyrea looks like sekjal
18:23 libsysguy looks like sekjal
18:23 cait who is violet?
18:22 cait yay
18:21 rangi try that
18:21 rangi http://typewith.me/3gYf6ozqf4
18:20 cait can't even copy my text although I still see it :(
18:20 cait yeah
18:20 cait grr
18:19 rangi not the demo/beta
18:19 rangi i suspect if you want to do it for real, you should pick one of the public sites
18:19 libsysguy grr
18:19 sekjal out
18:19 sekjal and now
18:19 sekjal I'm back in
18:19 rangi nope someone else is typing too
18:19 cait yeah, don't be so rude
18:19 libsysguy rangi stop kicking us out
18:19 cait so you are alone now rangi :P
18:19 rangi not me
18:18 cait booo
18:18 sekjal booo
18:18 sekjal and I
18:18 libsysguy noo...actually I did too
18:18 cait and disconnected again
18:18 cait i got kicked out and all my changes are lost :(
18:17 libsysguy ^^
18:17 sekjal everyone else in channel is of course welcome to join this pad if you would like to contribute to this discussion at this time
18:17 libsysguy ok so what do we need to add
18:17 libsysguy excellent
18:17 sekjal it's working!
18:16 libsysguy sweet
18:16 rangi if we like etherpad, we can set up etherpad.koha-community.org too
18:16 wizzyrea I should be more specific: populating the address/phone/hours data for 39 libraries = not how I would like to spend my afternoon.
18:16 libsysguy P->V or V->V
18:16 sekjal http://beta.etherpad.org/p/Koha%20Notices%20Rewrite%20meeting%20sept%208%202011
18:16 wizzyrea library thing for libraries/LibraryAnywhere
18:15 cait wizzyrea: in what?
18:15 wizzyrea (data entry sucks. That is all.)
18:15 sekjal creating
18:14 cait :)
18:14 rangi and morning cait :)
18:14 rangi free software ftw
18:14 cait evening rangi
18:14 cait oh
18:13 rangi http://etherpad.org/
18:13 rangi yo
18:13 libsysguy tdavis@uttyler.edu
18:12 sekjal send me your preferred invite emails, and I'll add you to the doc
18:12 sekjal libsysguy: we do
18:12 libsysguy sekjal doesn't bywater use google docs
18:10 cait but I don't have access to that i think, not sure how to open a new document
18:10 sekjal works for me
18:10 cait for marseille we had a google docs document, that was fun :)
18:10 libsysguy im all for google docs
18:10 cait ok, what can we use?
18:10 sekjal cait: agreed
18:09 wahanui logs are at http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/koha/
18:09 cait logs?
18:09 cait the log is hard to read, i think we should do some structuring in a document while we are discussing
18:09 wizzyrea irc log?
18:09 libsysguy wahanui is always watching
18:09 wizzyrea it's already logged
18:09 libsysguy ok so who wants to set up that log
18:09 wizzyrea chat is always logged ;)
18:09 cait in google we could all write
18:09 sekjal libsysguy: chat is logged
18:09 sekjal yes, we need a work space to write down all these ideas
18:09 libsysguy can we log this chat?
18:08 libsysguy i agree
18:08 cait or perhaps a google document?
18:08 cait i think we should write that on the wiki page
18:08 cait ok
18:08 sekjal formatting types: plaintext, HTML, short-message (140 char limit)
18:08 cait but being able to send a third or forth notice as print
18:08 cait not only falling back to print with no email
18:08 sekjal delivery methods: print, email, sms, rss
18:08 cait i would like to see that configurable
18:08 cait print, email, sms
18:07 cait delivery types
18:07 wizzyrea messages for print
18:07 sekjal message triggering
18:07 sekjal message creation and editing
18:07 sekjal okay, so we've got several areas to cover:
18:07 cait so this is going to be big
18:07 cait ok
18:07 sekjal mine as well. overdue messages are just one type
18:06 cait ok
18:06 libsysguy imo
18:06 libsysguy all messages
18:06 libsysguy sounds good to me too
18:06 cait notificatons = all messages we can send or only overdues?
18:06 sekjal so, that's two large areas of change
18:06 cait sounds good to me
18:06 sekjal with fines included, along with debarring and such
18:06 cait but we should have print as an option
18:06 sekjal more than just 3
18:06 cait I think we could build on the existing structures for that
18:06 sekjal and for overdues, a more robust set of triggers
18:05 libsysguy ^^
18:05 sekjal I'd like to see a unified message system for all outgoing emails, printed pages, SMS and RSS
18:05 cait because I would love to see them tied closely together, or being able to sync overdue notices and overdue fines
18:05 libsysguy i think they will have to be touched
18:05 cait in your opinion?
18:04 cait does cover notificatons fines too?
18:04 libsysguy yeah toss out notices...bad joke...
18:04 cait first i would like to talk about the area
18:04 cait delete?
18:04 libsysguy i say with the delete button
18:04 cait let me open the wiki page
18:03 cait good question
18:03 libsysguy so where do we start?
18:03 libsysguy ok cool
18:03 sekjal no, I'm good
18:03 libsysguy oh...do we need to wait?
18:03 sekjal sorry, working on an urgent set of patches
18:03 sekjal I'm here
18:02 libsysguy im excited about doing it
18:02 libsysguy i wonder if sekjal forgot?
18:01 libsysguy oh no!
18:01 cait almost forgot abou tthe meeting
18:01 cait i am here
18:01 libsysguy sekjal, cait are do you guys want to talk about notices?
17:47 cait I would start lookin gat the perl skript for the template where you see the overdue thing
17:36 libsysguy so it is the circulation module that i need to be looking at?
17:24 cait libsysguy: you don#t hve to - things will show up overdue (red) when the date calculation says they are
17:00 libsysguy im not even running that script
17:00 cait and not sure what's been changed for hourly loans
16:59 cait not sure
16:59 cait but something else might be used to indicate it's overdue (mark it red) in patron's account
16:59 cait hm I think there is something used by the overdues script
16:59 libsysguy cait do you know if there is a function for overdues to check to see if an item is overdue
16:57 libsysguy me either
16:57 cait no idea :(
16:57 libsysguy so apparently they changed the shelving location...but they just changed it back and its still giving an overdue notice
16:57 cait hm
16:51 libsysguy and the due time is correct
16:51 libsysguy although the circ librarian is now telling me that she changed something -_-
16:51 cait and due time?
16:51 cait is the due date calculated correctly?
16:51 libsysguy that is what I am wondering
16:51 cait perhaps some check is not ok?
16:51 libsysguy no fines
16:51 cait or only hsow up as overdue (red)
16:50 cait does it have fines?
16:50 cait oh
16:50 cait hm
16:48 libsysguy ok so I'm still getting that an item is overdue as soon as it it checked out (hourly)
16:42 cait wizzyrea: and didn#t have the right patron categories :)
16:42 nengard will update
16:42 nengard thanks
16:42 wizzyrea cait's last
16:42 nengard cait's?
16:42 nengard so i can add the patron data back in
16:41 nengard wizzyrea which rport worked?
16:41 cait wizzyrea: yes, was not sure what is needed
16:39 jwagner maximep, thanks, and thank him for doing the bugzilla report/patch -- I was just about to create one because I hadn't found one when I searched the other day. Looks like he did his yesterday :-)
16:37 wizzyrea so newest date is the most recent any activity in accountlines?
16:36 wizzyrea ez enuf I think
16:36 wizzyrea but
16:36 wizzyrea still gotta get the patron categories in there
16:35 * wizzyrea is reviewing the criteria
16:34 nengard yeah me too
16:34 cait I had only a very minimalistic data set to test with
16:34 wizzyrea :)
16:34 wizzyrea yea, that's my next step
16:34 cait check the sum and such things... that it#s right
16:34 nengard wizzyrea which one? I'll put it on the wiki with the proper credits
16:33 wahanui somebody said which one was it
16:33 trea which one?
16:33 nengard WOO HOO
16:33 cait yay :)
16:33 wizzyrea cait, nengard, trea: taht definitely got results!
16:33 maximep in short : yes :p
16:33 maximep jwagner: ok hes looking at it and will answer soon =)
16:32 libsysguy and i think it is still on UTC time
16:32 libsysguy well I did change the timezone we were in from UTC time to CDT last night
16:31 cait libsysguy: that sounds strange
16:30 libsysguy eek mysql's time is not the same as my system time
16:30 wizzyrea mine is chomping away
16:30 jwagner I'm pretty sure it is the same problem, but want to verify.
16:29 maximep jwagner: sure
16:29 jwagner maximep, I'm adding a comment to that bug report now -- want to see if it's the same issue -- can you have your coworker take a look in a couple of minutes?
16:29 nengard :)
16:29 wizzyrea yes, yes you should
16:29 nengard if they do then we should share on the wiki
16:28 nengard trea you can use either cait's or mine and see if they work
16:28 nengard that might work too
16:28 maximep *my
16:28 maximep jwagner coworker did that patch
16:28 cait should be the same :)
16:28 cait didn's ee that there is an accounttype pay in accountlines
16:28 nengard oh ...
16:28 cait no, I was using statistics
16:28 nengard cait there is no 'type' in accountlines
16:27 cait like this perhaps
16:27 cait http://pastebin.com/SmTGvaBv
16:27 nengard trea does that work?
16:27 pastebot "nengard" at 98.114.30.184 pasted "collections report" (13 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/32
16:25 nengard cait that might work, updating now
16:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6854 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, fcapovilla, ASSIGNED , import_borrowers.pl : Double password encryption on member update if there is no password in the csv and no default password value.
16:25 jwagner Anyone know anything about the issue in Bug 6854? I think it's the same problem that I'm seeing in multiple places including current head.
16:25 wahanui cait: that doesn't look right
16:25 cait and change the subquery to use statistics and payments?
16:24 cait nengard: check this: http://pastebin.com/V2xcP27f
16:24 nengard cait any ideas? :)
16:24 nengard issues should only be populated when an item is checked out or renewed
16:23 libsysguy yeah I am getting a message about an item being overdue when its clearly not
16:23 cait nengard: i see the problem hm
16:22 * wizzyrea needs something along these lines as well
16:22 cait libsysguy: when you checkout something?
16:21 cait so my version didn't work?
16:21 cait ah
16:21 libsysguy can anybody tell me how issues gets populated
16:20 trea http://pastebin.com/0SGf1aE7 this gives output, but i may be off
16:19 nengard but I don't know how to make that happen
16:18 nengard i feel like this bit "accountlines.date > DATE_SUB(CURDATE(),INTERVAL 60 DAY)" needs it's own WHERE statement to say where accounttype='PAY' or accounttype='C'
16:18 nengard report help needed (I'm working with trea on this) - we have this: http://pastebin.com/7EveDisn but we need to add to it a check to see that the account hasn't had any payments in 60 days - and the check that's in there will find fines and payments so any ideas on how to add that limit would be great
16:16 rhcl The new turkey sandwich @hardees is pretty good, and only 460cal.
16:08 cait hehe
16:08 wizzyrea woot cait's back
16:07 cait hi chris_n :)
16:07 chris_n lets go get some lunch
16:06 chris_n hi cait
16:06 cait hi #koha
16:01 matchew certainly
16:01 wizzyrea let us know how it works out :)
16:01 matchew that helps me a lot
16:00 matchew okay
16:00 matchew right,
16:00 wizzyrea that's five point ten
16:00 wizzyrea we require 5.10
16:00 wizzyrea you are running 5.8.8?
16:00 matchew so 5.8.8
16:00 matchew oh right
16:00 reiveune bye
15:59 wizzyrea either way, matchew, you can find out with perl -v
15:55 wizzyrea there you have it
15:55 chris_n we currently require 5.10
15:55 wizzyrea and when kmkale solved it, he updated to 5.10.0
15:55 wizzyrea is that it has to do with perl 5.8.8
15:54 wizzyrea yea, the only thing i'm seeing
15:54 chris_n matchew: also note that the zebraqueue daemon is best left unused ATM
15:53 chris_n matchew: what perl version are you using?
15:51 gmcharlt chris_n: heh, we're practically neighbors nowadays
15:50 matchew I'll likely be thinking about this all day
15:50 matchew no problem, take your time.
15:49 * wizzyrea thinks about this
15:48 * chris_n looks down the interstate to see if he can see gmcharlt
15:46 matchew I'm sort of stumped. Using CentOS it was pretty hard to get this far, and I'd like to figure this one out.
15:45 matchew and I ignored it, after google turned up the logs from this channel => http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/koha/2010-05-06#i_435450
15:44 matchew the interesting thing about the 2nd issue is that was the error returned from make test
15:44 matchew now, that issue of course is different
15:44 matchew I do recieve a similar issue when trying to start my zebraqueue_daemon.pl => http://mibpaste.com/p7h5Ug
15:43 wizzyrea hm
15:42 matchew at the end of the installion on centOS 5.6 I receive this error on localhost:80 or :8080 http://mibpaste.com/mvUVch
15:41 wizzyrea :)
15:41 wizzyrea as in, go for it.
15:41 wizzyrea gopher it
15:41 matchew Hi, I had asked a question yesterday evening. It was a bit slow in here at the time. So, now that I am working on the problem again I thought I would ask my question once again
15:40 gmcharlt chris_n++ # persistance is paying off for you
15:36 talljoy makes crunching data even tastier.
15:35 * talljoy likes code named after food. mmmmmm
15:28 wizzyrea oh wow!
15:27 chris_n yeah, the folks that maintain strawberry and vanilla included the remaining critical modules a release or so ago just for us
15:27 trea hehe
15:26 wizzyrea hey that's cool
15:26 chris_n however, strawberry perl should pretty much fully support such an install with only a few minor caveats
15:25 wizzyrea :)
15:25 chris_n LOL
15:24 wizzyrea to paraphrase mark twain - i've never wished a system dead, but I've read many post-mortems with glee
15:24 * chris_n thinks he hears rangi saying "good riddance" ;-)
15:24 chris_n well, I should say of the master branch of the main git repo
15:24 * wizzyrea plays the dirge
15:23 chris_n for the record: the only fully functioning native win32 installation of Koha succumbed to a motherboard failure last week
15:23 wizzyrea hee
15:22 * chris_n gives his zebra its bi-monthly whack
15:18 wizzyrea kf++ I think you're onto something
15:08 miguel hi
15:08 julian_ hi wizzyrea
15:07 wizzyrea hi miguel and julian_
14:51 wizzyrea ah
14:50 aarkerio mmm, great, thx!
14:48 kf_away when you use the syntax like it is now
14:47 kf_away wizzyrea: I think you need to ads someting link borrower.borrowernumber = accountlines.borrowernumber
14:44 wizzyrea you can search on that
14:44 wizzyrea so if you happen to know what a call number for a book is
14:44 wizzyrea A number used in libraries to classify a book and indicate its location on the shelves.
14:44 wahanui it has been said that call number is in the location
14:44 wizzyrea n.
14:44 wizzyrea call number
14:43 aarkerio hi! I the search options what means "Call number" ?
14:41 wizzyrea with correct parens of course
14:41 wizzyrea something like from borrowers join accountlines using(borrowernumber(
14:40 kf_away you don#t linke the accountlines and borrowers table together?
14:40 kf_away also I wonder
14:40 kf_away hm
14:38 kf_away not the entry for the borrower
14:38 kf_away I think it's summing up the whole table
14:38 kf_away your format sum
14:38 trea :D
14:38 trea that is definitely over $24.99
14:37 trea hmmm
14:37 kf_away reporting 44.00 euro due for every user
14:37 kf_away but I doubt it's right
14:37 kf_away it's fast on my other database
14:36 kf_away hm
14:35 trea understandable. is why i was running it against a local copy
14:34 kf_away a bit scared to try a real database
14:34 kf_away it still finishes, but I don't meet the other criteria
14:34 kf_away wizzyrea: you are so right
14:33 wizzyrea or fines over 60 days old?
14:32 wizzyrea well you probably don't have those particular category codes
14:32 kf_away 0 results though
14:32 kf_away hm it finishes for me
14:30 trea i've imported a local db with fines; it just ran literally all night and never completed.
14:29 wizzyrea we really need some test data with fines. Hrmph.
14:28 wizzyrea (mine never finished either)
14:28 kf_away test database
14:28 kf_away hm
14:28 trea trying to figure out why it's not finishing
14:28 wizzyrea *nod* we're working on similar things
14:28 kf_away this looks familiar
14:27 trea http://pastebin.com/KtrJGwba
14:27 kf_away trea: yep
14:27 kf_away :)
14:26 trea anybody on that feels like looking at a sql query
14:25 wizzyrea mhm, it should be clickable :)
14:24 lastnode the number of the user. thanks!
14:24 lastnode tehre is a column called librarian which shows who added it
14:23 trea logging enabled
14:23 lastnode but yeahm found it
14:22 lastnode logging on?
14:21 wizzyrea by twiddling knobs under the modification log tab
14:21 wizzyrea if you have logging on, you can see the borrowernumber of the person who added an item, yes
14:20 lastnode wizzyrea: is theresomeway i can see which user account added a certain item/record?
14:19 lastnode way to go ICANNN
14:19 lastnode haha
14:19 * wizzyrea tries to imagine what nekls .xxx content would look like... shudders
14:19 wizzyrea truthfully I hadn't considered it
14:18 rhcl wizzyrea: is you guys thinking at all about purchasing a ".xxx" domain? Some here in Missouri are suggesting it should be considered. Like you might buy "nelks.xxx" or we might buy rhcl.xxx to prevent those from being registered.
14:15 wizzyrea just helping :)
14:15 wizzyrea aw
14:15 wizzyrea I made an assumption, that you wanted to know when the *item* was added, as when you added the bib is (usually) less important. :)
14:14 lastnode wizzyrea++
14:14 lastnode #koha, why you use awesome?
14:14 lastnode thanks wizzyrea
14:14 wizzyrea as "accession date"
14:14 wizzyrea acq date is going to be under the items tab
14:13 wizzyrea for the bib
14:13 wizzyrea lastnode: you can look at the acquisition date in the record, or look at the modification log
14:13 wizzyrea sorry to hear about your arm, that is never fun
14:12 wizzyrea oy!
14:12 Irma cast is hopefully coming off in 3 weeks
14:12 Irma and I have a broken arm :-(
14:11 Irma so looking forward to KohaCon but for the moment run off my feet as there is much happening
14:10 wizzyrea i'm well, and you?
14:10 Irma How are you?
14:10 Irma Hi wizzyrea ... it's late for me ... thought I was going off to sleep but remembered I needed to send an email to MJ
14:10 lastnode a record/item was added i mean
14:09 lastnode is tehre an easy log of when a book was added
14:09 wizzyrea hi irma :)
14:08 * Agent_Dani knows where wizzyrea's mind is. Good choice.
14:06 wizzyrea keke
14:05 wizzyrea yes sorry, angry intelligent beautiful women
14:05 Brooke it's a dependency
14:05 Brooke don't forget the intelligent part
14:05 wizzyrea um... i'm behind, I was giggling at the varying responses to being surrounded by angry beautiful women
14:04 kf_away wizzyrea: ?
14:04 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6831] Enhanced Workflow for adding analytical records <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6831>
14:04 wizzyrea jeje
14:00 kf_away and now it's there
14:00 kf_away I was talking about that to eythian yesterday
14:00 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6831 enhancement, P5, ---, colin.campbell, REOPENED , Enhanced Workflow for adding analytical records
14:00 kf_away oh nice, bug 6831
14:00 * kf_away hides
14:00 trea dun dun DUNNNN!
13:57 Brooke agent_dani++
13:56 Agent_Dani Not the comfy chair!
13:55 Brooke fate worse than death I tells ye
13:55 Brooke it would be terrible to be surrounded by angry, beautiful, intelligent women
13:55 Brooke yes
13:55 wizzyrea heh
13:53 rhcl To avoid persecution.
13:52 Brooke that's the sort of plotting that is best out in the open :)
13:52 Brooke why be secret about it :P
13:49 rhcl yea, secretly I'm trying to formulate some grand unifying theory (a la Einstein) about the differences I've observed in M-F gender differences in all things computer tech.
13:47 wizzyrea rhcl that's definitely interesting
13:46 * Agent_Dani finds Sarah to be an interesting person but, obviously, had different interactions.
13:45 Brooke then I was like "Well fine, if I do my crap anyway, are you gonna get touchy?"
13:44 Brooke then I was like "Hey! Can I help, cause we're doing something similarish."
13:44 Brooke and I was like "Dude!"
13:44 Brooke but her call for interviewees came like right after I did my initial draft for the same area of a survey I'm trying to block out right now
13:43 rhcl ic
13:43 Brooke yes rhcl definitely
13:43 Brooke yes
13:43 Brooke but um I think that what she's doing is cool and will be important
13:43 Brooke I should prolly shuddup before I misconstrue what she's doin
13:43 rhcl "and a better study type thing that she'd take her time on and put out later" <-> do you mean, of women in open source?
13:42 Brooke if you mean the topic of the study type thing then yes
13:42 Brooke can a brotha get a rephrase?
13:41 rhcl Brooke: with the topic, do you mean, of women in open source?
13:40 kf_away was thinking about something else
13:40 Brooke and a better study type thing that she'd take her time on and put out later
13:40 kf_away oh, I missed the link, ignore me
13:40 Brooke that needed doin asap
13:40 Brooke a project for school
13:39 Brooke I mean to my knowledge she was doing 2 things
13:39 kf_away if we are talking about the same thing :)
13:39 kf_away or what do you mean by properly?
13:39 kf_away I thin it's already published in a repository
13:38 Brooke just hope it's not behind a wall at like emerald or summat
13:38 Brooke can't wait til she properly publishes
13:38 kf_away hm?
13:37 rhcl "Researchers and community members have proposed reasons that keep women out of open source, but overlooked are social reasons"
13:35 rhcl oi
13:34 Brooke 0/
13:22 chris_n wizzyrea++
13:22 Brooke http://opensource.com/life/11/8/research-reveals-value-gender-diversity-open-source-communities
13:07 drakmor thanks for the help!
13:06 drakmor okay, bug submitted. hopefully I did it right...
13:04 drakmor okay
13:04 kf_away drakmor: I think mention that you have set automembernum
13:03 drakmor should I upload all my settings? I have no idea what might be causing this, since there's only this one setting that should affect it afaik
13:02 drakmor okay
13:02 kf_away drakmor: you can upload screenshots or write down your settings
13:02 oleonard drakmor: You can always file a new bug if your issue doesn't seem to match existing ones.
13:02 kf_away drakmor: you have to register first, but all it needs is an email address - after that you can file bugs. Make sure you give your version and how to reproduce
13:01 drakmor yeah, we're just buying them at this point. I was just wondering
13:00 Brooke cheap
13:00 Brooke very
13:00 Brooke very
13:00 Brooke barcodes are cheap
13:00 drakmor there's a few other bugs about autoMemberNum not working, but they're all from 3 or 4 years ago. Can I make a new one?
12:58 drakmor okay, thanks
12:58 kf_away sorry, we don't use that feature
12:58 drakmor does that work for you?
12:58 drakmor whenever I make one of the pdf's, the barcodes are shifted to one side....
12:57 drakmor another thing I'm probably doing something stupid with is the barcode printer
12:57 drakmor haha, that's for sure
12:56 kf_away better than a bug :)
12:56 drakmor yup
12:55 kf_away ok
12:55 kf_away ah
12:55 drakmor I didn't notice that thing and didn't enter any card number on the patrons that already had numbers
12:55 drakmor yeah, thats the issue then
12:55 kf_away but I haven't tested it on our 3.4.4 installation yet - I made a note to do so
12:55 kf_away we use 3.2.2 right now and the matchign works there
12:54 drakmor okay
12:54 kf_away for matching
12:54 kf_away once you have the field defined as unique it will show up in the patron import
12:54 drakmor thats exactly what I need
12:54 kf_away I use it to add student id and use that for matching
12:54 drakmor okay, I'll take a look
12:54 kf_away it's a way to configure more fields
12:54 drakmor thanks
12:54 kf_away administration > extended patron attributes
12:53 kf_away what you can do is use extended attributes that are marked as unique
12:53 kf_away no, you can't use name
12:53 * kf_away nods
12:53 drakmor can I use name or something else?
12:53 drakmor the only field it lets me match is cardnumber
12:53 drakmor I'm pretty new to this so it's probably me
12:53 drakmor let me check
12:52 kf_away on what are you matching?
12:52 drakmor I might have done it wrong
12:52 kf_away it shouldn't do that
12:52 kf_away oh
12:52 drakmor that and the fact the patron import tool makes duplicate entries when I tell it to merge....
12:52 drakmor hopefully the next update fixed this....
12:52 drakmor okay
12:51 kf_away you can try the mailing list next or file a bug report
12:51 drakmor nothing there when I searched "autoMemberNum"
12:51 drakmor yeah, thats the one I checked
12:51 drakmor ah
12:51 wahanui i heard bugzilla was found at http://bugs.koha-community.org
12:51 kf_away bugzilla?
12:51 kf_away wahanui is our chatbot, he reacted to your use of @
12:51 wahanui RDA is a room in a twisty maze of standards
12:51 drakmor RDA?
12:51 huginn drakmor: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready
12:51 drakmor @kf_away no bugs on the tracker :/
12:50 kf_away jcamins_away: around?
12:45 kf_away drakmor: I am not aware of a bug ith this feature - perhaps check bugzilla for a bug report
12:38 drakmor hey, I'm running koha 3.04.02.000, and I'm getting a bug where the patron card number field doesn't automatically fill in even though I have autoMemberNum set to "do". Any fix for this?
12:34 Brooke nor will planning things out
12:34 Brooke being nice won't kill us
12:34 Brooke but for lack of a better phrase
12:33 Brooke and we didn't get into this boat to lie; we'd be proprietary
12:33 Brooke that said marketing should never be more than the fruits of the labour
12:33 Brooke I am quite concerned that we don't give a fig in that department, and that it might cost us
12:32 Brooke yessir
12:28 oleonard So you do believe we should worry about marketing well.
12:28 Brooke we haven't done a real dreamy release in a while
12:28 Brooke it should be what we dream
12:28 Brooke but I think for the first release in a series
12:28 Brooke normally I'd agree with the last part
12:26 oleonard But I am arguing that we should limit what's on our plate for a 4.0 release.
12:25 oleonard Is anyone arguing that we should have to choose? I'm not.
12:24 magnuse *nods*
12:24 Brooke there shouldn't be any reason that we can't have both solR and zebra
12:24 Brooke and I also think that in doing so, we need to be touchy feely and sort out causes for emotions.
12:23 Brooke that we need to be very careful to separate emotions from objectives
12:23 Brooke I think
12:23 * Brooke sighs.
12:23 oleonard At the moment I'm agreeing with Marcel that Solr integration is the definition of 4.0, but I'm concerned that that doesn't market well. Do we need to worry about marketing well?
12:22 Brooke freggin' dc. I am caught between jorbs that require 40 years of experience in interface design, or unpaid internships.
12:15 Brooke ta owen
12:13 Brooke hey oleonard and irms
11:58 Brooke not the out of commission part
11:58 Brooke I like that answer :D
11:58 Brooke woot
11:58 * Brooke looks innocent.
11:58 nengard I should do it today since Monday I'm out of commission
11:58 Brooke uhhh
11:58 Brooke Mornin' sug
11:58 nengard when do we need that by?
11:58 Agent_Dani Morning!
11:58 Brooke nengard++
11:58 Brooke thanks babe
11:58 Brooke hooray!
11:58 Brooke ta da
11:58 Brooke How bout Reno?
11:57 Brooke No?
11:57 Brooke You want this in the UK?
11:57 Brooke Homie!
11:57 Brooke Yo!
11:57 nengard yeah sure i can do that
11:57 Brooke should basically say
11:57 nengard oh
11:57 Brooke KohaCon2012 vote.
11:57 nengard what survey?
11:57 nengard I'm confused
11:55 Brooke and if you aren't, can I have the keys to the car so that I can do it?
11:54 Brooke Are you going to do the survey?
11:54 * Brooke tries to look like Beau.
11:54 nengard Hi Hi Brooke
11:54 Brooke hey hey nengard
11:39 wahanui hdl: I forgot hdl
11:39 hdl wahanui: forget hdl
11:39 Brooke :)
11:38 magnuse kia ora Brooke
11:36 Brooke howdy y'all
11:27 wahanui i guess hdl is sure that Croswalking records in zebra is also ram demanding.
11:27 kf hdl?
11:21 kf hdl: because of the bugs?
11:20 hdl kf_away: what have you been up to with RFID and 3M ?
11:13 magnuse yay!
11:13 huginn magnuse: Karma for "axknax" has been increased 2 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 2.
11:13 magnuse @karma axknax
11:13 magnuse axknax++
11:07 kf_away and before he runs out axknax++
11:02 axknax it is a long story - we have a specific german version of horizon, with special german features, but these functions causes several problems and the german functions were never integrated into the main developement - the concept of the open source developement philosophy is much better because of the wider community and transparecy
11:00 kf_away once we are done with germany we can continue in norway ;)
11:00 magnuse hope we will be seeing you around axknax - i'm off to find some lunch, bbl
11:00 kf_away hehe
10:56 magnuse would you mind telling it to the librarians in norway too? ;-)
10:56 magnuse yay, that's great to hear axknax
10:54 axknax it has been a hard job with horizon, fortunately we have now only 20 horizon installations, it is nice to work with koha, easy to use and most times it does the thing we expect from it
10:54 kf_away it's different
10:51 magnuse but that's no fun, right? ;-)
10:51 kf_away and a lot longer with horizon :)
10:48 magnuse cool
10:48 axknax since 2007, but with Koha since two years
10:47 magnuse axknax: been working with kf long?
10:46 rangi hi axknax
10:45 magnuse axknax: lucky kf ;-)
10:44 magnuse good morning jcamins
10:44 axknax I try to assist her
10:44 * jcamins_away yawns, and waves.
10:42 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 13.0�C (12:20 PM CEST on September 08, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 29.36 in 994 hPa (Steady).
10:42 magnuse @wunder boo
10:42 huginn axknax: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 18.4�C (12:38 PM CEST on September 08, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 29.97 in 1014.8 hPa (Falling).
10:42 axknax @wunder konstanz
10:42 magnuse working on koha?
10:41 magnuse axknax: lucky you! ;-)
10:41 axknax I'm a collegue of katrin here in Constance
10:41 kf_away :)
10:40 magnuse and welcome to the family ;-)
10:40 magnuse guten tag axknax!
10:39 kf_away say hi all to my coworker :)
10:39 axknax hallo! :-D
09:40 magnuse sure! ;-)
09:39 lastnode do i get points for 3 "stuff" in a row?
09:39 lastnode stuff that a good sysadmin woudl obviously do anyway, but stuff that ive just learnt over the past few weeks.
09:39 lastnode stuff like that
09:39 lastnode rsyncing for backup
09:38 lastnode i was thinking more like, setting up cron to koha-dump
09:38 * lastnode nods
09:36 rangi mysql, apache etc are all pretty stock standard
09:36 rangi i think the only specific thing would be to do with zebra
09:36 lastnode let me look at it again and come back with a better pitch!
09:35 lastnode yeah, i dont want to reinvent the wheel or anything. there were just a couple of koha specific things i did that werent in the guides i follwed
09:35 magnuse rangi++
09:34 magnuse lastnode: more documentation is always welcome, i'd say. feel like writing it? putting it on the wiki might be a good start...
09:34 rangi i suspect there are probably a lot of guides for preparing a server to be a web application server, maybe finding one and linking to it is good
09:28 lastnode rangi: kf_away do you guys think a FAQish guide for getting a server ready for a koha install wouldbe useful? i kind of did it by patchingthings together fromhere and there these days, and with lots of help fromthis channel of course. but from stuff like setting up mysql to configuring iptables, do you think a guide of this nature would be useful for new users?
08:53 zipporah kt_away: thanks. I'll get at it now.
08:52 kf_away it's a system preference under adminsitration
08:52 zipporah rangi or magnuse: how do I change NoZebra stting? Which parameter to touch?
08:52 rangi ah yeah, packages ftw :)
08:51 lastnode sorry if i wasnt clear!
08:51 lastnode rangi: what i meant was, reinsatll from packages then just isntall with zebra and do koha-start-zebra
08:48 kf_away writing up a tutorial takes time and I am sure this has also been discussed on the mailnig list
08:48 kf_away zipporah: rangi told you what needs to be done
08:47 zipporah I used Livecd Koha 3.2. I think it comes with Ubuntu 10.10.
08:46 zipporah Friends send an email like in a tutorial form so that I can even print it off and study it carefully before starting the process. I am on chisangaz@gmail.com. Kind regards.
08:44 magnuse zipporah: if you are on debian you need to look at "chapter" 6 of INSTALL.debian: http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob_plain;f=INSTALL.debian;hb=HEAD
08:43 rangi then set up the cron job
08:43 rangi do a rebuild_zebra.pl with -r
08:43 rangi switch the sys pref
08:42 rangi what magnuse said is the way to do it
08:42 rangi lastnode: that wont actually achieve turning zebra on
08:42 zipporah magnuse: I need to research more on this then as I need a step-by-step approach to achieve this.
08:41 * lastnode doesnt know if magnuse will approve
08:40 lastnode zipporah: im not an expert, but pricely because of that, whatid do is export my db, reinstall and impor tit
08:39 magnuse zipporah: i have never done it, but at least you need to change the NoZebra setting, then run the rebuild_zebra.pl script
08:38 zipporah magnuse, so how do I get zebra into koha now?
08:31 kf god dag magnuse
08:29 magnuse guten tag kf
08:28 kf hi #koha
08:22 magnuse they sure are
08:21 lastnode zebras are cool
07:59 magnuse zipporah: zebra is recommended and the NoZebra option will probably be removed some time in the future
07:57 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6761] Longer userid field <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6761>
07:56 zipporah I am new to Koha. Is there too much to loose without zebra component in running Koha 3.2 effectively?
07:53 zipporah May I also find out how to include Zebra after leaving it out in the initial installation of Koha 3.2 using livecd?
07:52 lastnode but i guessnot
07:52 lastnode yeah imon squeeze. was just wondering if koha-start-zebra has to be added to http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.4_on_Debian_Squeeze
07:52 * eythian -> home
07:52 lastnode ok
07:52 eythian but you're not seeing that if you're on squeeze
07:52 eythian cool, there's a bug on ubuntu (and debian unstable) that I can't remember if it's been fixed yet
07:51 lastnode debian4life
07:51 eythian are you on ubuntu or debian?
07:51 eythian basically, it should kick it going after koha-create
07:51 eythian I've seen that happen once or twice, but never been able to reproduce it.
07:51 lastnode did i foobar, or is that intended behaviour?
07:50 lastnode it was not being indexed, so i went back adn executed koha-start-zebra
07:50 lastnode *data
07:50 lastnode and long after we started entering darta yesterday
07:50 lastnode after koha-create though
07:50 eythian so it starts it after running koha-create
07:50 eythian lastnode: there's nothing to start on a fresh install
07:49 lastnode ok
07:49 rangi yes
07:49 lastnode is that intentional?
07:49 lastnode rangi: when koha installs on debian koha-start-zebra is not executed
07:47 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6807] Add ISBN filter to advanced order search <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6807> / [Bug 6811] Send renewal notice <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6811> / [Bug 6783] Circulation restrictions dont work when other withdrawn reasons are used <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6783>
07:33 sophie_m hi rangi
07:33 rangi hi sophie_m
07:33 rangi zipporah: not that i know of
07:26 hdl hi rangi
07:25 zipporah Do we have 3.4.4 in Livecd?
07:19 magnuse there's a long writeup of the project here: http://julap.b.uib.no/synopsis/
07:19 rangi definitely !
07:18 magnuse thanks to this project: http://julap.b.uib.no/ koha has also been present in South Sudan from (before) day 1! (i really should ask someone to write a tiny piece about that for the newsletter...)
07:17 rangi hi hdl
07:15 magnuse rangi: i'll see what i can do ;-)
07:14 rangi you'll have to read it and tell me :)
07:14 wahanui interesting is good
07:14 rangi oh interesting
07:13 magnuse rumour has it koha deployment in ethiopia is one of the case studies in this phd dissertation: Nigussie Tadesse Mengesha: �Revisiting Networking of Actions and Knowledge Transfer:An Outline of Practice and Community Based Distributed Approach For Open Source Information Systems Implementation in Developing Countries. Cases from Ethiopia� http://www.mn.uio.no/ifi/forskning/aktuelt/arrangementer/disputaser/2011/nigussie.html
07:09 rangi http://www.ehow.com/way_5188010_ripper-rugby-rules.html
07:08 rangi kahu has played a couple of games of ripper rugby this year
07:08 rangi hehe that is pretty incredible :)
07:06 paul_p incredible for a 16 teenager : saturday and wake up at 7:30 !
07:06 paul_p yep. Also note our 1st son (16) has decided to play ... rugby this year. So he will wake up (with his best friend, that also play rugby and will be at our home this we) at 7:30 to watch the match !
07:05 rangi thats pretty good time
07:05 paul_p yes. and 48 for frenchies. The match will be at 8AM for us.
07:03 rangi 24 hours to go
07:03 rangi heh yep
07:03 paul_p hello rangi. All blacks are ready ? Are you ready for the WRC too ? Beers in the fridge, cookies in the oven,... ?
07:02 magnuse hopefully it will save us some time and frustration in the long run...
07:02 reiveune hi rangi
07:02 magnuse thanks rangi
07:02 rangi i paul_p and lastnode and reiveune
07:01 rangi yep nice work magnuse
07:01 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6857] Show a warning if placing a reserve will incur a cost <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6857>
06:59 * magnuse is happy to see the simplified sysprefs making it into koha!
06:57 paul_p hello magnuse & all
06:57 magnuse kia ora paul_p
06:44 reiveune hello
06:39 * cait waves
06:37 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6488] opachiddenitems not working in master <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6488>
06:32 lastnode hi friends
06:28 alex_a bonjour magnuse :)
06:28 magnuse bonjour alex_a
06:28 alex_a hi rangi
06:27 rangi heya alex_a1
06:27 alex_a1 hello
06:22 magnuse we did do what we went there to do: see two paintings by Caravaggio, but not a lot else (apartfrom eating very good food!)
06:21 magnuse aye!
06:21 eythian how terrible :)
06:19 magnuse ~32C - too hot to do much else than lie by the pool... ;-)
06:19 magnuse and very, very hot
06:19 magnuse very nice!
06:19 huginn cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 15.0�C (8:00 AM CEST on September 08, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1016 hPa (Falling).
06:19 cait @wunder Konstanz
06:19 cait how was your vacation? :)
06:19 magnuse guten morgen cait
06:19 cait hi magnuse!
06:16 magnuse hiya rangi!
06:15 rangi hi magnuse
06:15 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo Vi, Norway is 11.0�C (8:00 AM CEST on September 08, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 29.25 in 990 hPa (Rising).
06:15 magnuse @wunder boo
06:15 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Luqa, Malta is 23.0�C (8:00 AM CEST on September 08, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 18.0�C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Rising).
06:15 magnuse @wunder valletta
06:12 magnuse kia ora #koha
05:33 rangi hello from the bus
05:28 eythian Especially useful for people making reports.
05:28 eythian It gives you an interactive view of the database structure.
05:28 eythian So, the latest version of schemaSpy is pretty darn good and we should start making use of it.
05:23 eythian yeah.
05:23 cait I fixed one but don't trust them really
05:23 cait those reports are all a bit weird :(
05:22 cait ah
05:22 eythian reports/bor_issues_top.pl
05:22 cait what is mad?
05:22 eythian hi cait
05:22 cait morning #koha
05:22 eythian It may need a rewrite at some stage, it appears to be providing incorrect results.
05:21 eythian yeah, it's pretty mad
05:12 mtj it blew my mind!
05:11 mtj hey, i recall bumping into the bor_issues_top.pl script too, years ago
05:04 eythian ah right :)
05:04 mtj so - my bad... but i learned something for next time :)
05:04 mtj Koha does seem to be doing that correctly in the doc-head block, i was testing my code just after that block, directly in the template
05:00 mtj http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CDATA
05:00 eythian really, I think Koha should take care of wrapping it in a CDATA
05:00 mtj cdata is what i'm looking for
05:00 mtj ah, looks like you are spot-on again :)
04:58 eythian the only thing that'll mess up CDATA processing is having ]]> in your string.
04:58 mtj ok, i gotta read up on that
04:57 eythian i.e. you're upsetting the HTML parsing.
04:57 eythian it's because there's multiple levels of parsing going on
04:57 eythian No, I'd say a CDATA block
04:56 mtj http://www.htmlescape.net/stringescape_tool.html
04:56 mtj like this one?
04:56 mtj it still seems the most fail-safe way to handle tricky strings is to transform them via a web-tool :/
04:54 mtj ok , thanks for the CDATA tip, i never understood it
04:54 mtj var s = qq|Don't have a password yet Contact the librarian by email<a href="mailto:moo@foo.com">moo@foo.com</a> to arrange one to be set up|;
04:54 mtj what i really wanted was a 'qq'
04:53 eythian if it's the < upsetting things, then the javascript should be wrapped in a CDATA block
04:52 mtj ah, ok i missed those " chars in that example
04:51 eythian that would be fine, however you should either use ' ' for the href, or put a \" there
04:51 mtj js explodes trying to assign that string to $s :/
04:50 mtj $("#opac-auth p").html('s');
04:50 mtj var s = "Don't have a password yet? Contact the librarian by email<a href="mailto:moo@foo.com">moo@foo.com</a> to arrange one to be set up";
04:49 mtj like this...
04:48 mtj no, a simple s/r via some jquery
04:46 eythian you're inserting a string into the JS via a template?
04:44 mtj so i couldnt even assign my unescaped string to a var - without manually escaping every special char?!?
04:44 eythian mtj: reports/bor_issues_top.pl
04:43 mtj my str = qq | <>''s'ad'sad'sa''''ee'3e'3'r'''!'''><<>|;
04:42 mtj basically, theres no JS equiv of perl's...
04:42 mtj and then assign that escaped string to a var
04:41 mtj http://www.htmlescape.net/stringescape_tool.html
04:41 mtj .. the only way around my problem was to find a web-tool to escape my string
04:41 * Oak waves
04:40 mtj jeez, ive hit a stupid situation handling tricky chars in a $tring, in jscript...
04:39 * mtj curious
04:39 mtj eythian: what file in the repo ?
04:09 eythian the 'Patrons with the most Checkouts' code is the most confusing thing I've ever read.
02:36 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6687 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, ASSIGNED , cannot move people in the holds queue
02:36 jenkins_koha * robin: Bug 6687 - allow people to be moved in the holds queue
02:36 jenkins_koha * m.de.rooy: 6256 Follow up fixing typo
02:36 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #406: STILL UNSTABLE in 43 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/406/
01:57 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6687 - allow people to be moved in the holds queue <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=99056625b635f6f9557f9b53797bdc31cca226d8> / Merge remote-tracking branch 'kc/new/bug_6256' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=073083ea5f76591e2ced0755b1631e8b6ddd9a35> / 6256 Follow up fixing typo <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f
01:52 jenkins_koha Starting build 406 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #385 20 j ago)
01:49 rangi or somethign similair
01:49 glernil Got it. Thank you.
01:48 rangi koha-admin.foo.domainame:8080
01:48 rangi it would be
01:48 rangi koha-create foo
01:48 rangi so if when you do koha-create you do
01:48 rangi it would be koha-admin.sitename.domainname:8080
01:47 rangi no
01:47 glernil domain_name:koha-admin8080?
01:47 glernil so if i added intraprefix koha-admin, when i want to login in the staff interface the address will be
01:45 rangi or whatever you desire for your staff side
01:44 rangi or admin-koha
01:44 rangi koha-admin
01:44 rangi its so you can have
01:44 rangi pick one and set it
01:44 glernil what about the intraprefix and intrasuffix?
01:43 rangi yes
01:42 glernil when you say virtual hosting it is something about the configuration file of apache right?
01:42 glernil or 8080?
01:41 glernil ahm. i see... so if i will not broadcast my installation publicly is it just ok to leave the domain name blank and intraport to 80?
01:39 rangi we usually do 80 for both, cos do name based virtualhosting, but if you cant/dont want to, you can put whatever port you want in there
01:39 rangi the port you want to run the staff side on
01:39 glernil yup
01:39 rangi you running the packages?
01:38 glernil anyone know what is "INTRAPORT" portion in the koha-sites.conf for?
01:38 rangi hi glernil
01:38 glernil good day!
01:33 rangi hi Irma
00:12 lastnode haha
00:12 eythian but not immediately, first I'm going to lunch
00:11 eythian I am going to kohacon
00:11 eythian https://market.android.com/details?id=com.aldiko.android.oreilly.classicshellscripting <-- I bought this, it has a chapter on man pages
00:11 lastnode my bad
00:11 lastnode kohacon, eythian!
00:11 lastnode sorry
00:11 eythian Will look up what it is
00:11 eythian lastnode: I learnt from a book.
00:10 lastnode aer you going to be at kohaconf, eythian?
00:10 lastnode i mean im noob at man paegs so i won tpromise anything, but ill certainly have a look
00:09 eythian awesome :)
00:08 lastnode eythian: im going to look into them man pages this weekend
00:06 lastnode there must be some way ou tof here, said teh joker to the theif
00:06 eythian heh
00:06 melia I already answered that question for someone else once today :)
00:06 eythian lastnode: melia is also an infobot ;)
00:05 melia log for today's meeting is here, starting at 18:00: http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/koha/2011-09-07#i_758460
00:05 eythian ^-- there
00:05 wahanui logs are at http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/koha/
00:05 eythian wahanui: logs?
00:05 eythian what was not the right button
00:05 lastnode are there logs?
00:05 lastnode i had to hit the sack in the middle of the meeting
00:04 lastnode doh