Time  Nick            Message
23:54 rhcl            so much for the mibbit connection....
23:36 rangi           heh
23:30 daniel_g        pidgin, irc2go, work, home. wresting with nicksrv & ident. finally got here via plain old mibbit and a new nick
23:28 daniel_g        good gosh, i just spent a couple hours trying various ways to get here
23:28 wahanui         hola, daniel_g
23:28 daniel_g        hi
22:36 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6537 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, magnus, ASSIGNED , Simplified sysprefs for the web installer
22:36 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6665 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, NEW , advancedMARCeditor preference not functioning
22:36 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6555 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , only 10 lists in pull down when adding from a bib record
22:36 jenkins_koha    * paul.poulain: Bug 6537 [SIGNED-OFF] follow-up = removing non specific lines for french unimarc
22:36 jenkins_koha    * magnus: Bug 6537 - squashed version of the previous 5 commits, signed-off
22:36 jenkins_koha    * Chris Cormack: Follow up for 6665 : Fixing the hide_marc pref also
22:36 jenkins_koha    * Chris Cormack: Bug 6665 : TT problem was preventing AdvancedMARCEditor pref from working when cataloguing
22:36 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5605 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, ASSIGNED , Add Support for SIP Fee Paid Message
22:36 jenkins_koha    * Chris Cormack: Bug 6555 : only 10 lists show in the staff client
22:36 jenkins_koha    * colin.campbell: Bug 5605 [ENH] SIP: Add Support for the Fee Paid Message
22:36 jenkins_koha    Project Koha_master build #404: STILL UNSTABLE in 43 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/404/
22:03 rangi           heya danielg1
21:52 jenkins_koha    Starting build 404 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #385 19 j ago)
21:52 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6732 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , Missing Title for Manual Invoice
21:52 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6724 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, brett, ASSIGNED , Holds Ratio does not allow decimals
21:52 jenkins_koha    * Chris Cormack: Bug 6732 : Showing the bibliographic title on the manual invoices line
21:52 jenkins_koha    * Chris Cormack: Updating about file and history doc
21:52 jenkins_koha    * brett: bug 6724: enable decimals on values greater than 1
21:51 jenkins_koha    Project Koha_master build #403: STILL UNSTABLE in 45 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/403/
21:32 huginn          New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6537 [SIGNED-OFF] follow-up = removing non specific lines for french unimarc <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=aa239bc430d04583f3197513e89c4a40886d0049> / Bug 6537 - squashed version of the previous 5 commits, signed-off <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6bd38d3eabc79c68cb90193378c69825ddac2a43>
21:15 rangi           cya sekjal
21:15 sekjal          have a good night, #koha
21:15 sekjal          rangi:  cool.  gtg.
21:14 rangi           testing 6537 now
21:10 huginn          New commit(s) kohagit: Follow up for 6665 : Fixing the hide_marc pref also <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=34b553d03b96cb3c84ec978f6eea542f38f60de3> / Bug 6665 : TT problem was preventing AdvancedMARCEditor pref from working when catalo... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4363ff6669c92d0fbbd891fa870bd2cb5e021e9e> / Bug 6555 : only 10 lists show in the staff client <http://git.koha-c
21:06 jenkins_koha    Starting build 403 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #385 19 j ago)
21:00 huginn          New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6732 : Showing the bibliographic title on the manual invoices line <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e71b4faf789ab872d94c8f20c0c252b5550da2d0> / Updating about file and history doc <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f09e8403119c08861ef1cec466447012b1b2775b> / bug 6724: enable decimals on values greater than 1 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a
20:59 cait            good night all
20:49 rangi           154 already
20:42 libsysguy       i love crazy mixes
20:42 cait            :)
20:41 rangi           libsysguy: your reward http://soundcloud.com/djbl3nd/loko-mix
20:40 * wizzyrea      giggles
20:40 rangi           yes
20:40 cait            is his nickname bug?
20:39 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6724 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, brett, ASSIGNED , Holds Ratio does not allow decimals
20:39 rangi           bug 6724
20:39 cait            bugs first patch?
20:38 libsysguy       welcome
20:38 rangi           libsysguy++ #for the reminder email
20:37 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6537 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, magnus, ASSIGNED , Simplified sysprefs for the web installer
20:37 hdl             bug 6537
20:36 rangi           ohh bug's first patch
20:34 nengard         :)
20:31 rangi           looks like ive got some pushing to do
20:31 rangi           w00t w00t
20:28 sekjal          6537 passed QA
20:25 huginn          Brooke: The operation succeeded.
20:25 Brooke          @later tell Oak A Peck on the Cheek http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0312859/
20:24 rangi           back
20:23 cait            magnus_away will be back on thursday
20:23 cait            and only en needs to include all files
20:22 cait            but I don't think we had language specific changes recently
20:22 cait            you only have to do it once
20:22 cait            I think manually perhaps
20:21 cait            not sure
20:21 sekjal          cait: do you know if the new files for 6537 were generated algorithmically, or manually?
20:12 cait            that should be ok
20:11 cait            1 + 7 = 8 here
20:10 rangi           ok my bus stop bbiab
20:09 libsysguy       hehe ok :)
20:09 rangi           send out a reminder for general meeting too while ur at it :)
20:08 libsysguy       i can send out the email?
20:08 libsysguy       ok so thursday at 1?
20:08 cait            just let me know when and where
20:08 cait            :)
20:07 cait            ok
20:06 pelletiermaxime ah, it's in the installer. Never used it before hehe
20:05 libsysguy       and maybe generate some interest
20:05 libsysguy       just to make sure we have all of our bases covered
20:05 libsysguy       yes basically
20:05 cait            brain storming?
20:05 cait            libsysguy: what do you want to achieve with the meeting?
20:04 rangi           yeah that would rule
20:03 cait            if we get that in it will get a lot less work to add new sys prefs
20:03 libsysguy       thursday would work best for me
20:03 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6537 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, magnus, ASSIGNED , Simplified sysprefs for the web installer
20:03 cait            sekjal: could you look at bug 6537 when you have time?
20:03 rangi           someone should send a reminder now
20:02 cait            the meeting...
20:02 cait            almost forgot about it
20:02 cait            oh yes, tomorrow!
20:02 pelletiermaxime hmmm and where can I find that sample data ?
20:01 sekjal          thursday or friday I'm pretty free midday
20:00 sekjal          tomorrow at 1pm (Eastern) is the Koha IRC meeting... I imagine that will be going on for at least two hours
19:59 libsysguy       i wonder how that works for sekjal
19:59 libsysguy       ok so im always free at 1
19:58 cait            for before now your time
19:58 rangi           ah yeah the sample data
19:58 cait            not later than 10 pm for me
19:57 libsysguy       so around 5 or evening like 8 or 9
19:57 pelletiermaxime rangi: the test adds a member with S as a categorycode. Surely I need to have something in my bd before executing the tests ?
19:57 cait            evening is better for me - but not too late
19:56 libsysguy       i see...well I have classes kind of randomly throughout the day
19:56 cait            7 hours
19:56 cait            almot 10 pm
19:55 libsysguy       oh almost 10
19:54 libsysguy       what time is it for you now?
19:54 libsysguy       2:53
19:54 cait            libsysguy:
19:54 pelletiermaxime rangi: ok thanks. Trying to figure out how jenkins work hehe
19:54 cait            what time is it for younow?
19:54 rangi           im on the bus so hard for me to look
19:53 rangi           jenkins.koha-community.org
19:53 libsysguy       which is after 2 my time
19:53 libsysguy       sekjal I think prefers after 3 his time
19:53 rangi           you could look at jenkins see how it runs them?
19:53 libsysguy       anyway so between when and when are you cool with meeting
19:53 pelletiermaxime Members
19:53 rangi           what test pelletiermaxime ?
19:52 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6390 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, ef, ASSIGNED , Basket only visible for librarian who created it
19:52 rangi           no change to the syspref .sql for bug 6390 either ... has magnuses patch been pushed so we dont need that? I think even with that still need english eh
19:52 pelletiermaxime rangi: really? Ok, must be a problem on my db because I get fk constraints fails :/
19:51 rangi           hmm
19:51 libsysguy       hehe
19:51 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1234 enhancement, P2, ---, paul.poulain, RESOLVED WORKSFORME, Parameter: Bar Code # Prefix for book / patron searching
19:51 libsysguy       yeah like if you do bug 1234
19:51 cait            make the bot jump?
19:51 libsysguy       ok poke cait
19:51 rangi           perl t/db_dependent/name.t oughta do it
19:51 libsysguy       hehe
19:51 cait            bug me now
19:50 libsysguy       aww i was hoping bug you would make the bot jump
19:50 libsysguy       cait_dinner: i forgot to bug you
19:48 cait_dinner     morning rangi
19:46 oleonard        Hi rangi
19:46 pelletiermaxime not sure what I need to do before running the db_dependent tests
19:46 rangi           Morning
19:45 pelletiermaxime Is there any doc in the wiki or anywhere on how to run the Test::More suite in t/ ?
19:19 nengard         cait++  (for report help)
19:19 cait_dinner     nengard++
19:15 Emery           bye
19:15 Emery           ok
19:13 huginn          New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6390] Basket only visible for librarian who created it <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6390>
19:12 jwagner         Emery, it doesn't look like anyone is available right now who can help you. You might try back later when users in another timezone are online.
19:09 Emery           helpssssssssssssssss
19:09 Emery           plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
19:07 Emery           :(
19:06 Emery           and my problem is not there
19:05 Emery           it does not help
19:05 Emery           i have looked ther
19:05 wahanui         i think searching faq is at http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/searching/
19:05 oleonard        searching faq?
19:05 Emery           please
19:04 Emery           i have suscessfully installed koha 3.4 but search still broken
19:03 huginn          New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6841] A member with cataloging permissions cannot change branches (when independent branches is set on) <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6841>
19:03 Emery           can you help me now?
19:03 wizzyrea        bbiab
19:03 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6841 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, wizzyrea, ASSIGNED , A member with cataloging permissions cannot change branches (when independent branches is set on)
19:03 wizzyrea        chris_n: bug 6841
18:59 Emery           :'(
18:55 Emery           search is broken
18:55 Emery           ARG
18:54 Emery           help?
18:52 Emery           :( *sniff* *sniff*
18:51 Emery           i geuss i dont get help ..
18:49 Emery           help?
18:47 Emery           im confused
18:47 Emery           but you say to do it as koha
18:47 Emery           google says to do it as root
18:45 Emery           i geuss i will googles it :/
18:45 Emery           and it still errors but this time it is , Cant write-open blib/man3 ...
18:44 Emery           sudo -u koha make upgrade
18:44 Emery           i ran
18:44 Emery           Hel[p
18:44 wizzyrea        ^^
18:44 Emery           lol
18:44 oleonard        Productivity time.
18:43 Emery           its 11:42 am here
18:43 Emery           what time is it where you are?
18:43 * wizzyrea      wanders off to do something productive.
18:43 * oleonard      is feeling lazier by the minute.
18:43 Emery           lol
18:43 wizzyrea        me too *yawn*
18:43 Emery           Just like all the suckers who have to go to school today :D
18:42 Emery           :D ehh, feeling lazy today
18:42 oleonard        :|
18:42 wizzyrea        perhaps you're in the wrong line of work :P
18:42 Emery           i just hate searching for awnsers :D
18:41 wizzyrea        http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.com/Errors-while-installing-test-Koha-td3395866.html
18:41 wizzyrea        more specifically, in those results
18:40 oleonard        Emery: You hate Google, or you hate searching for the answers to your questions? There are other search engines if it's the former.
18:40 cait_dinner     nengard: i could try to figure it out in a few minutes
18:40 Emery           i will do that
18:39 wizzyrea        that's your right.
18:39 Emery           yeah yeah
18:39 Emery           i hate google
18:39 wizzyrea        remember that saying about teaching a man to fish?
18:39 cait_dinner     nengard: do you have a  little time for it?
18:39 wizzyrea        that's the way we figure out our problems.
18:39 Emery           :D thats the second time today
18:39 Emery           REally?
18:39 Emery           ok
18:38 wizzyrea        http://tinyurl.com/3qy5xmq
18:38 Emery           ...
18:37 Emery           do i give perrmissions to the user koha or ...?
18:36 Emery           wizzyrea, how do i fix this?
18:36 nengard         from borrowers b WHERE b.borrowernumber NOT IN (SELECT borrowernumber from borrower_message_preferences p where  p.message_attribute_id = 4) and b.email is not null order by b.branchcode, b.surname, b.firstname, b.email asc
18:36 nengard         select  b.branchcode, b.surname, b.firstname, b.cardnumber, b.email
18:36 nengard         i need some report help - i need a report that shows all the patrons who have email addresses on their account but do not get the hold filled email - here's what I have ... but i'm not sure this is right
18:36 Emery           :(
18:36 wizzyrea        looks like you have a date with the googles.
18:35 Emery           :s
18:35 wizzyrea        heh.
18:35 Emery           Unable to open MakeMaker.tmp Permission denied
18:35 Emery           oh no
18:33 Emery           will do
18:33 Emery           ok
18:33 wizzyrea        I would log in as koha and run the makefile again, but I'm cautious like that
18:33 Emery           that may not be good :o
18:33 Emery           now do i have to re run the Makefile.PL or can i log in as koha and run sudo make upgrade
18:33 * wizzyrea      has no idea what state your permissions are in
18:32 Emery           created user and group
18:32 Emery           ok
18:32 wizzyrea        yep
18:32 Emery           sudo -u koha ?
18:32 Emery           oh
18:31 wizzyrea        ok, first. You should probably be logged in as your Koha user to be doing this
18:30 Emery           do i have to re-do perl Makefile.PL after or can i just re-do sudo make upgrade
18:30 Emery           i will create them
18:29 Emery           maybe not :o
18:29 Emery           i though i did
18:29 wizzyrea        do you have a koha user and group?
18:29 Emery           make *** [set_koha_ownership] Error 1
18:28 Emery           chown: invalid user: 'koha:koha'
18:28 Emery           ok, i have done that and there is an error :( as fallows
18:28 Emery           yay :D i love fishing
18:28 wizzyrea        go fishing. ;)
18:28 Emery           lol
18:28 wizzyrea        give a man a fish and he'll be hungry tomorrow. Teach a man to fish and he'll never go hungry again.
18:27 wizzyrea        you know what they say
18:27 Emery           i have not looked in awhile
18:27 Emery           umm, i dont know, i think so ...
18:27 wizzyrea        is that what the instructions say?
18:27 Emery           yes?
18:27 wizzyrea        \o/
18:26 Emery           sudo make upgrade?
18:26 Emery           RESULT: PASS :D
18:26 Emery           almost done, i hope :D
18:26 Emery           yep
18:26 libsysguy       gotta run for a bit
18:25 Emery           doing make test now
18:25 Emery           i have done make
18:25 Emery           ok
18:25 libsysguy       yeah you should be able to proceed
18:25 Emery           so i continue?
18:25 Emery           ok, that is good :D
18:24 libsysguy       with 500 records I doubt your using it
18:24 libsysguy       its cool
18:24 Emery           :'(
18:24 Emery           Warning: prerequisite CGI::Session:: Driver::memcached 0.04 not found
18:22 Emery           ok
18:22 libsysguy       rerun the installer
18:22 Emery           ok
18:22 libsysguy       nope
18:22 Emery           so i dont do sudo apt-get install ...
18:22 Emery           oh
18:22 libsysguy       ok then that is all you need
18:22 Emery           and it worked
18:22 Emery           yes, i have done that
18:21 libsysguy       sudo**
18:21 libsysguy       so you are typing exactly this: udo cpan -i CGI::Session::Driver::memcached
18:21 wizzyrea        if you typed that you typed it wrong.
18:21 Emery           still :s
18:21 Emery           Unable To Locate libsession-driver-memcached-perl
18:21 Emery           yes, i just did that, typo :D but ,
18:21 wizzyrea        command not found or package not found? I just verified that CGI::Session::Driver::memcached installs
18:21 Emery           Unable To Locate libsession-driver-memcached-perl
18:20 Emery           approx
18:19 Emery           500
18:19 libsysguy       how many do you have?
18:19 Emery           lol, We have not finished entering our records yet :p
18:19 wizzyrea        sudo cpan -i CGI::Session::Driver::memcached
18:19 wizzyrea        oh bother. one more for the girls in the back.
18:19 libsysguy       emery what library do you work for that only has 2 books
18:19 Emery           Command not Found
18:18 Emery           :D
18:18 Emery           ok
18:18 libsysguy       hehe oops i missed that one
18:18 wizzyrea        that will be sudo cpan -i CGI::session::driver::memcached
18:18 Emery           Command not Found
18:18 wizzyrea        actually
18:18 libsysguy       will do
18:18 libsysguy       haha
18:17 cait            libsysguy: ok, ask me in 15 minutes ;)
18:17 Emery           ok
18:17 wizzyrea        sudo cpan -i session::driver::memcached
18:17 Emery           ok
18:17 libsysguy       and perl
18:17 libsysguy       and strip the lib
18:17 Emery           ok
18:17 libsysguy       replace the - with ::
18:17 Emery           that would be sudo cpan -i libsession-drive.....
18:16 Emery           ok
18:16 libsysguy       then build it with cpan just like you did with template
18:16 Emery           Unable To Locate libsession-driver-memcached-perl
18:15 Emery           thanks
18:14 wizzyrea        sudo apt-get install libsession-driver-memcached-perl
18:14 Emery           oh, how do i install that
18:14 libsysguy       so memcached too
18:14 libsysguy       after you do that for all the missing packages
18:14 Emery           now what? re-do perl Makefile.PL
18:14 Emery           no what? re-do perl Makefile.PL
18:13 Emery           Install -- OK
18:13 Emery           Sure! thats always fun :D
18:13 Emery           lol
18:12 libsysguy       there will be a lot...hope you are in for some rapid Y pressing
18:12 Emery           ok
18:12 wizzyrea        ^^
18:12 libsysguy       yes to all
18:12 Emery           do i want to build the XS Stash module ???
18:12 wizzyrea        nah, prolly not.
18:12 libsysguy       hehe
18:12 wizzyrea        >.>
18:12 wizzyrea        you meant about libsysguy.
18:11 wizzyrea        yes. oh, wait.
18:11 libsysguy       i want to schedule a meeting with you and sekjal about notices
18:11 cait            should I be scared?
18:11 wizzyrea        sudo cpan -i Template
18:11 Emery           should i do that?
18:11 cait            hi libsysguy
18:11 Emery           it errors : dont use install , just cpan Template
18:11 libsysguy       cait :D
18:11 libsysguy       my bad
18:11 libsysguy       ^^
18:10 wizzyrea        sudo cpan install Template
18:10 Emery           ok
18:10 libsysguy       you can also try cpan install Template
18:10 Emery            10.10
18:10 Emery           ubuntu
18:10 wizzyrea        what OS?
18:09 Emery           unable to locate package libtemplate-perl
18:09 wizzyrea        then try your makefile again.
18:08 wizzyrea        and sudo apt-get install libsession-driver-memcached-perl
18:08 Emery           ok
18:08 wizzyrea        you want to do sudo apt-get install libtemplate-perl
18:08 Emery           yeah
18:08 wizzyrea        heh
18:08 libsysguy       so foo-bar would refer to your package
18:07 libsysguy       right but keep in mind these are abstract as to fit your pacakges
18:07 Emery           i was fallowing what it said to do
18:07 Emery           no ... ?
18:07 libsysguy       and libsession-driver-memcached-perl
18:06 libsysguy       so you did libtemplate-perl?
18:06 Emery           i am on the step where it says
18:06 Emery           it cant find them
18:06 Emery           yea
18:06 wahanui         rumour has it the wiki is http://wiki.koha-community.org
18:06 libsysguy       oh the wiki
18:05 Emery           the link you gave me to install the missing stuf
18:05 libsysguy       what exactly did you run?
18:05 libsysguy       I don't think I've told you to install any package
18:05 Emery           the one you tolde me to install
18:04 libsysguy       what package
18:04 Emery           it errors unable to locate package
18:03 Emery           ok
18:03 libsysguy       oh haha
18:03 libsysguy       it shouldn't but i would most certainly wait until its finished
18:03 Emery           no, but i only have 2 records at the moment, no big deal
18:02 libsysguy       umm have you backed up your db just incase?
18:02 Emery           it has not finshed yet
18:02 Emery           ok
18:02 libsysguy       and then run rc-d update
18:02 Emery           do you know if it will erase my records on update?
18:02 libsysguy       ok so im pretty sure you ln -s /koha-dev/bin/koha-zebra-ctl.sh to /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon
18:01 Emery           installing ...
17:59 Emery           ok, i will do that and will be back once im done :D
17:59 libsysguy       i can't seem to remember the name of that file
17:59 Emery           ok
17:58 libsysguy       this should help with the above errors http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/How_to_install_missing_Perl_modules_on_Debian
17:58 Emery           Warning: prerequisite Template 2.22 not found
17:58 Emery           Warning: prerequisite CGI::Session:: Driver::memcached 0.04 not found
17:58 Emery           Warning: prerequisite CGI::Session::Driver::memcached 0.04 not found
17:57 Emery           ignore ^^
17:57 Emery           Warning: per
17:57 Emery           note: when i do perl Makefile.PL this error occours,
17:56 Emery           ok
17:56 libsysguy       one sec
17:56 Emery           im confused ...
17:54 Emery           so what am i moving?
17:53 Emery           oh
17:53 libsysguy       right so that is the wrong script to be in there
17:53 Emery           yes it is
17:52 libsysguy       right but its the daemon script no?
17:51 Emery           what do you mean? move the script, it is already at /etc/init.d ...
17:51 libsysguy       i think the daemon is depricated
17:51 libsysguy       you might want to stop the daemon and just move the server script to /etc/init.d
17:50 Emery           yeah i dont know what happens
17:50 libsysguy       its ok
17:49 Emery           sorry, for slow responce
17:49 Emery           yes
17:48 libsysguy       hmm...im not an upgrade expert but was teh search server running as a daemon?
17:45 Emery           can anyone help me? many people have tried but no-one can find out why, after upgrade to 3.40.40 search breaks, zebra srv is running and everything is fine, i go back to 3.2 and search works !?!?!?!?!? :o so if anyone wants to help it would be apriciated
17:26 jcamins         Whatever the point might be.
17:26 jcamins         Always glad to belabor the point. :)
17:24 nengard         i missed it the first time, so glad you repeated it
17:24 * jcamins       corects his to-do list so he doesn't tell nengard a third time.
17:24 * jcamins       has a case of the Mondays, too.
17:24 jcamins         nengard: I already told you that, sorry for the repeat.
17:24 jcamins         nengard: I changed the RSS/Atom feeds for my website. Let me know if you have any problems.
17:01 chris_n         thanks to you
17:01 wizzyrea        thanks!
17:01 wizzyrea        YUM
17:01 * chris_n       passes wizzyrea some fresh guacamole sauce and chips
17:01 wizzyrea        but, right after lunch :P
17:00 wizzyrea        you'll have the patch anyway :)
17:00 wizzyrea        well
17:00 wizzyrea        and if they don't like it
17:00 chris_n         branch's even
17:00 wizzyrea        k, i'll go ahead and submit it
17:00 chris_n         and I cannot think of a situation in which one would want to prevent the viewing of certain branches catalogs
17:00 wizzyrea        "can set branch" or some nonsense.
16:59 chris_n         I'm not sure where else we would put it
16:59 wizzyrea        but *should* it be fixed in the way I'm thinking
16:58 wizzyrea        it's easy enough to fix. :)
16:58 * wizzyrea      is just trying to think of the broader implications of such a change
16:58 * chris_n       looks at the permissions a moment
16:58 chris_n         I think that's sound reasoning
16:57 chris_n         yes
16:57 wizzyrea        sok
16:57 chris_n         sorry
16:57 * chris_n       is really not paying attention
16:57 chris_n         sheesh
16:57 wizzyrea        was "can user management"
16:57 wizzyrea        what it looked for originally
16:56 wizzyrea        from a cataloger's point of view
16:56 wizzyrea        it seems logical to me that there would be cases in most independent branches setup that would require changing the set branch sometimes
16:56 chris_n         unless we want to create a permission for the label tool
16:56 chris_n         no, I think that it makes sense to make it dependent upon catalogue edit permission
16:55 wizzyrea        i'm looking at them and I just don't know
16:55 wizzyrea        (for the template)
16:55 wizzyrea        it would certainly fix your problem. Is there another permission that would be better?
16:54 wizzyrea        s/is required/all that should be required
16:54 chris_n         wizzyrea: what you've done sounds good to me
16:54 jcamins         nengard_lunch: if you notice that the RSS/Atom feed for cpbibliography.com isn't working, could you let me know?
16:54 wizzyrea        i'm sure there's a solution
16:54 chris_n         :-)
16:54 wizzyrea        I won't do that to you
16:54 wizzyrea        no no
16:53 * chris_n       screams as he sees yet another syspref coming
16:53 wizzyrea        what do you think? I think in any case, view catalogue is all that is required to change set branch
16:53 chris_n         I could see situations where there is non-centralized cataloging where one may not want the catalogers to be able to change their branch
16:52 chris_n         heh
16:52 wizzyrea        how apt.
16:52 wizzyrea        *giggle*
16:52 wahanui         libraries are the kings of overcomplication
16:52 wizzyrea        libraries
16:52 wizzyrea        but I wonder if that's best for all "independent branches"
16:52 wizzyrea        to allow changes only to catalogers
16:52 wizzyrea        and I've made the template look for "can user edit catalogue"
16:52 chris_n         k
16:52 wizzyrea        question on 6841 -- I've backed down the necessary permissions to set the branch from circ to view catalog
16:51 chris_n         here
16:51 wizzyrea        chris_n about?
16:39 wizzyrea        oops
16:39 jcamins         Don't do a Replace All to globally change the font in a file of labels.
16:39 * jcamins       crashes LibreOffice.
16:35 wizzyrea        fascinating
16:35 wizzyrea        I hadn't ever looked at that before.
16:35 wizzyrea        hdl: thanks for the selenium idea
16:34 wizzyrea        and I also forgot
16:34 wizzyrea        I've looked at that before too
16:34 * oleonard      thought he had tested that holds bug, sees from his comment on the bug that he did...and forgot he had commented.
16:28 wizzyrea        mhm
16:28 hdl             (if it is the second time the problem occur, it is one time too much)
16:28 hdl             wizzyrea: I definitely think that selenium tests would help.
16:27 hdl             wizzyrea: would need to see what is causing that.
16:27 wizzyrea        but I could be completely misunderstanding.
16:26 wizzyrea        hdl, I don't think that your patches would help on this, since the thing that broke it was post TT
16:26 wizzyrea        actually, I think this is the 2nd time it has happened
16:25 * oleonard      didn't realize the bug was that old
16:22 wizzyrea        ooo
16:21 hdl             because of tt move.
16:21 hdl             oleonard: because we need to rebase /rewrite all the patches.
16:21 wizzyrea        YES that
16:21 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6687 critical, P5, ---, ian.walls, NEW , cannot move people in the holds queue
16:21 wizzyrea        no, def not
16:21 oleonard        Bug 6687
16:21 oleonard        No, not that one.
16:21 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6691 critical, P5, ---, pianohacker, NEW , Can't place hold even with override on
16:21 wizzyrea        i'd sign off on them :)
16:21 oleonard        Bug 6691
16:20 oleonard        Why haven't they been submitted already?
16:20 wizzyrea        that would be super :D
16:20 hdl             And send them.
16:20 hdl             Maybe sophie_m could take the patches for that.
16:20 hdl             on our branch.
16:20 wizzyrea        oo, when?
16:19 hdl             wizzyrea: we fixed that one on master.
16:16 wizzyrea        i will look thanks owen
16:16 wizzyrea        hmm
16:16 wizzyrea        i suspect this has something to do with the patch that changed reserves.pl to use borrowernumber instead of cardnumber
16:16 oleonard        I've seen that too wizzyrea, and I thought there was a bug report for it
16:16 wizzyrea        instead of reordering the holds
16:16 wizzyrea        none of them seem to be working, they all seem to try and place the hold again for that person
16:15 wizzyrea        can someone verify for me -- the buttons on request.pl to reorder/delete holds
16:10 libsysguy       that would be fantastic...im all for faster indexing
16:10 hdl             I hope we can also master some shards implementation and mergeFactor so that indexing time is reduced.
16:09 libsysguy       ok cool
16:08 hdl             But we are experimenting so that we find the best parameters for that at the moment.
16:08 hdl             it indexes 200 biblio edits in less than 2 mn at the moment but we are indexing 10 by 10 which is a parameter we will raise up to 100.
16:07 libsysguy       so if we added 22K new ebooks all at once it would be slower?
16:06 libsysguy       gotcha
16:06 hdl             libsysguy: it depends on your volume of biblio/items record edition at once.
16:05 libsysguy       or is it variable
16:04 libsysguy       have you worked out the delay time yet?
16:04 hdl             Therefore, less indexing.
16:04 libsysguy       gotcha
16:04 hdl             it packs biblios and sends them to solr
16:03 libsysguy       or close to it
16:03 hdl             So there will is delay, but it is a deamon which sends records to solr some biblios at once.
16:03 wizzyrea        cool
16:03 libsysguy       yup
16:03 wizzyrea        500000 bibs?
16:03 libsysguy       right we'd have the same issue since we have 500000 records
16:03 wizzyrea        ^^ very not good
16:02 hdl             Which is not good.
16:02 hdl             actually, there is an indexing queue we are working on at the moment because on 400000 records, and the way koha is structured... (touching items multiple times in the circulation process) the indexing process would slow down the circulation process.
16:02 wizzyrea        the one that fixes the super-exploit discovered a couple of weeks ago?
16:01 wizzyrea        does anyone know, is the patch for apache2 out yet?
16:00 libsysguy       so there would be no delay in adding records with solr
16:00 libsysguy       hdl sorry for bugging you with questions but im pretty interested in trying out solr when you guys get it ready
15:58 jcamins         oleonard: probably you have to use a different technique to trick it into using a mobile stylesheet.
15:57 hdl             hard disk space is the same as the DB with zebra.
15:56 libsysguy       oh...man that is next to nothing imo
15:56 hdl             1G RAM.
15:56 oleonard        jcamins: Seems unlikely that the iPhone is refusing to use the stylesheet arbitrarily
15:56 libsysguy       hdl what do you mean by 1G...like of Ram or extra Harddisk space?
15:55 libsysguy       *catching up*
15:55 libsysguy       sorry guys i stepped away
15:53 jcamins         Even though every other mobile browser (with the possible exception of mobile IE, which I don't care about) handles it correctly.
15:53 jcamins         It would seem that iPhone will not use the mobile stylesheet.
15:53 jcamins         oleonard: I have a custom mobile stylesheet that changes my menu from being horizontal to being vertical, so that no scrolling is required.
15:52 hdl             we have one library with 400000+ items with solr being allocated 1G.
15:52 oleonard        jcamins: Is your complaint about text flow?
15:51 hdl             It could be understood in many ways.
15:51 hdl             jcamins: ah ... this is why I said i did not understand the meaning....
15:50 jcamins         hdl: libsysguy's question was about how powerful a server you need to run solr.
15:50 hdl             But we cannot build that from scratch.
15:49 hdl             libsysguy: at the moment we are willing to help ppl getting zebra into that.
15:49 hdl             And trying to port features we already did into 3.6 3.8.
15:48 hdl             in fact, at the moment, we are only stabilising the solr work.
15:48 hdl             libsysguy: I donot understand the meaning of your question.
15:48 hdl             libsysguy: I donot understand the meaning of your questions.
15:48 coryj_away      Thanks oleonard.  Sorry for the delayed thanks... was pulled away from my desk for a while.
15:47 wizzyrea        probably curious, or trying to make a plan. :)
15:47 hdl             Why are you asking ?
15:46 hdl             libsysguy: how much extra horsepower are you guys using over zebra ?
15:46 hdl             libsysguy: sorry ?
15:46 wizzyrea        *nod*
15:45 lastnode        does that make sense?
15:45 lastnode        basically koha-dump then rsync /var/spool/koha/mysite with another server
15:45 lastnode        im writing a bash script i hope to run daily across machines
15:43 jcamins         iphone-- # I get that standards are anathema to peole as cool as Apple fans, but the "Experience" would be a lot better if you rendered the page in such a way that it actually fits on the screen.
15:21 libsysguy       how much extra horsepower are you guys using over zebra
15:20 hdl1            libsysguy1: we are.
15:20 hdl1            (just me, when I first had the problem.)
15:20 libsysguy1      hdl1: you guys are the ones working with Solr right?
15:19 hdl1            (It is a bug of the rebuild_zebra.pl imho, but no library complained about that)
15:18 hdl1            if nothing in file, then it just do nothing.
15:18 wizzyrea        hm
15:18 libsysguy1      excellent I have a question for you
15:18 libsysguy1      ohh hdl1 you are here
15:18 hdl1            and then reindex the whole stuff.
15:18 hdl1            then if Koha exports a file, then it will do a zebraidx init.
15:17 hdl1            when -r
15:17 wizzyrea        right
15:17 hdl1            And -r is done only when rebuild_zebra (Koha) exports an iso2709 file
15:16 hdl1            wizzyrea: -b -a are not working when they are used on the same command line.
15:16 hdl1            yes.
15:14 wizzyrea        can someone explain to me the difference between what happens when you do this http://koha-community.org/documentation/3-4-manual-en/?ch=x15097 and when you do a "normal" reindex (sudo -u <kohauser> misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -r) ?
15:03 reiveune        bye
14:59 nengard         bye
14:59 kf_away         bye all
14:58 kf_away         and time to go for me - distance study deadline is near...
14:58 kf_away         nengard++ sekjal++ :)
14:58 nengard         yuppers
14:58 oleonard        nengard announces her return with signed-off patches
14:57 nengard         :)
14:57 wizzyrea        ooh yea and welcome back nengard :)
14:57 * oleonard      is ready for some work to get over the weekend
14:57 wizzyrea        hehe
14:57 nengard         vacation pics for all to see: http://www.flickr.com/photos/nengard/sets/72157627606452296
14:57 * sekjal        had a VERY full weekend, and could use another to help recover from it
14:56 nengard         and it's "monday"
14:56 nengard         it's dreary and rainy and my baby girl is sick
14:56 * jcamins       is very impressed with himself for coming up with a cultural reference.
14:56 nengard         wish i stayed in jamaica instead of coming home
14:56 jcamins_away    Looks like someone has a case of the Mondays!
14:56 libsysguy1      there is really no escaping monday
14:56 libsysguy1      for the most part...but I fear that i have a Monday tuesday today
14:55 wizzyrea        I trust your long holiday treated you well?
14:55 libsysguy1      morning wizzyrea
14:53 oleonard        Hi wizzyrea
14:52 wizzyrea        mornin peeps
14:15 * Oak           waves
14:14 jcamins_away    Two minutes later, replying to the first one with the exact same text?
14:13 jcamins_away    How many times does the same message need to get sent?
14:09 oleonard        that's been a tough one apparently.
14:08 huginn          New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6190] Custom field removal from patron entry screens <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6190>
13:37 * kf_away       offers oleonard a cookie
13:34 oleonard        Grr... I'm tired of people emailing the same question to the list over and over.
13:16 lastnode        oh my bad, oleonard
13:12 oleonard        I wasn't talking to you lastnode
13:12 lastnode        new library
13:11 lastnode        we dont have offline data oleonard
13:05 oleonard        http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_offline_circulation_file_format
13:05 oleonard        /cgi-bin/koha/offline_circ/process_koc.pl
13:05 oleonard        coryj: I don't know what the best option is, but one is to use the offline circulation data upload tool
13:03 oleonard        lastnode: the "/" indicates where the local cataloger could truncate the call number if they choose
13:02 coryj           Is there a tool/option to "check out" items to users based on a CSV file?  We are migrating one of our libraries with a large number of existing checked out items.
13:02 lastnode        oleonard: so / means not-specific?
12:50 oleonard        And the library is given the option, via the "/" of whether or not to be that specific in their own classification of the book.
12:49 oleonard        LC catalogers decide.
12:49 lastnode        still trying to figure out how .52 are arrived at
12:49 lastnode        in koha, the great gatsby is classified in LC as 813/.52
12:24 oleonard        Hi #koha.
12:13 lastnode        haev a good lunch :)
12:13 lastnode        thanks slef!
12:12 slef            lunchtime... bbl
12:11 lastnode        ok
12:10 slef            there's a simple bug for you to report. http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=installer/data/mysql/en/optional/parameters.txt;h=a10456232158a925799e3e7e26620410944b3850;hb=HEAD is wrong
12:10 * lastnode      bookmarks the git repo
12:09 lastnode        thanks slef
12:09 lastnode        haha
12:09 slef            they're all in sample_z3950_servers
12:09 slef            yeah, no z39.50 servers in there
12:09 lastnode        (sample_z3950_servers)  is the other one
12:09 slef            http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=installer/data/mysql/en/optional/parameters.sql;h=84a176b60a2b296ac11662d8f51c71f34413e9ef;hb=HEAD
12:09 lastnode        ok
12:09 slef            I suspect that's a bad description but I'll check
12:08 lastnode        (parameters)
12:08 slef            what's that one called? I'll bring it up in a browser
12:08 lastnode        the sample servers are mentioned here, and in teh last opton too
12:08 slef            Heh, bad jargon use by both of us = fail!
12:08 lastnode        Some basic settings including USD currency, and a sampling of Z39.50 servers.
12:08 lastnode        gotcha
12:07 lastnode        oh right, patrno_attributes, when you said "install" you mean select it in tbhis screen
12:07 slef            Files that get loaded into the Koha database at installation time.
12:07 slef            I thought you were choosing data files.
12:07 slef            I'm confused. I don't understand how this is a plugin.
12:07 lastnode        these bits im asking you about
12:07 lastnode        ive setup koha like 15 times now, but i never eralyl figured out what htese do
12:07 lastnode        i dont follow
12:06 slef            I thought you were still choosing data files?
12:06 lastnode        patron_attributes here is a plugin?
12:06 slef            although I don't remember testing that myself
12:06 slef            I think it means that if you install patron_atributes, it makes it optional whether patron's barcode is shown on their summary screen
12:05 lastnode        what you said, yeah
12:05 lastnode        slef: yeah, i have the manual open
12:05 slef            although I say that, I can't find that one :)
12:03 wahanui         manual is at http://www.koha-community.org/documentation
12:03 slef            manual?
12:03 slef            I think it makes it optional. Seriously, are you reading the manual?
12:02 lastnode        option is - Useful patron atribute types:
12:02 lastnode        (patron_atributes)
12:02 lastnode        slef: do you know waht this means? * SHOW_BCODE - Show barcode on the patron summary screen items listings
12:01 slef            I think we've mysqldumps and the hot sync/mirror thingy whose name I've forgotten right now
12:01 slef            (our hosting is networked cooperatively in various ways)
12:00 lastnode        slef: you justbackup usign sql dump?
12:00 lastnode        ok
12:00 slef            I don't use the deb packages so I'm not sure.
11:57 lastnode        slef: either way as long as i koha-dump regularly (usign deb packages), i can edit these isntall values later, right?
11:56 lastnode        to see sup
11:56 lastnode        first
11:56 lastnode        yeah we're doing a 100 book trial
11:56 lastnode        slef: oh right
11:56 slef            Well, for example, if you start using something like a branch code, then you change your mind on it, you have to get all books out of that branch before you can delete it and even then I think it's non-trivial.
11:56 lastnode        just got what you maent
11:55 lastnode        slef: oh, atm we'll be using Fast Add
11:55 lastnode        ok
11:55 slef            but I think maybe worst case with frameworks is things we'll revert to default framework
11:55 lastnode        i dont get you
11:55 slef            well, most things you probably want to decide before you start using them in earnest
11:54 lastnode        ok np slef thank you
11:54 slef            "It depends" but I think we usually install them. I'm installing something else, so don't have my koha notes handy today.
11:54 lastnode        but i figure it wouldnt hurt to have them lying around for later
11:53 lastnode        i mean it is a little expansive for our library at the moment
11:53 lastnode        right?
11:53 lastnode        generally, id want (marc21_simple_bib_frameworks)
11:53 slef            or mysql command-line client
11:53 slef            Some things you can load the sql in phpmyadmin afterwards, but it depends if the sql contains primary key ids and so on.
11:52 lastnode        is there an easy way to import them after?
11:52 lastnode        slef: if i dont isntall (marc21_simple_bib_frameworks)
11:47 lastnode        slef++
11:46 slef            np. Hope I'm right :)
11:46 lastnode        thanks
11:46 lastnode        i just dotn want sample patrons (which is another option in itself)
11:46 slef            I'd expect it's layouts, templates and so on, yes.
11:45 lastnode        for creating cards, right?
11:45 lastnode        sample label and patron card ata is probably just themes/profiles
11:45 slef            But opening a bug report will help with QA.
11:45 lastnode        ok
11:45 slef            Or send a patch. Or maybe someone here has time to patch it quickly.
11:45 slef            If the description isn't quite right, send a bug report and it should get fixed pretty quickly.
11:44 lastnode        ok
11:44 slef            so sample_creator_data.sql will show what that data actually is.
11:44 slef            I think sample_creator_data is the base of the filename
11:44 slef            It means that it is sample label and patron card data :)
11:44 lastnode        is what it says
11:44 lastnode        (sample_creator_data)
11:44 lastnode        Sample Label and Patron Card Data
11:43 slef            lastnode: hasn't it got a description under it?
11:43 lastnode        what does that mean
11:43 lastnode        slef: no im looking for stuff like (sample_creator_data)
11:43 slef            marc21 and unimarc are both marc
11:43 lastnode        ok
11:43 slef            marc21 not marc
11:43 slef            lastnode: maybe some are explained more in the manual, but ultimately, you can look at the sql files for the full detail.
11:37 huginn          druthb: The current temperature in Sioux Falls, South Dakota is 12.0�C (5:56 AM CDT on September 06, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 30.13 in 1020 hPa (Steady).
11:37 druthb          @wunder sioux falls, sd
11:37 lastnode        Koha Web Installer . Step 3
11:37 lastnode        is tehre a guide taht explains all teh options in  koha install stage 3
11:36 miguel          marc
11:35 lastnode        google failed me, and you explained it in 1 line
11:35 lastnode        hdl++
11:35 hdl             unimarc if you are french or european. marc for the rest of the world.
11:35 druthb          Funny, how much better the campground wi-fi works when the campground is nearly empty...
11:34 druthb          o/
11:34 lastnode        hdl: miguel marc vs unimarc, thoughts?
11:26 lastnode        ok
11:26 hdl             around but busy.
11:26 hdl             how are you miguel?
11:26 lastnode        was wondering if someone may be around if i run into any probs
11:26 lastnode        im just gonna setup a production environment of koha
11:25 lastnode        hi hdl
11:20 miguel          hello Henri
11:19 hdl             hi miguel
11:19 hdl             lastnode: ?
10:48 lastnode        anyone around?
08:55 Irma            thanks kf_alf and rangi :-)
08:54 Irma            oh that's good news so I will call out when I know how much interest there really is.
08:46 rangi           but one of our design team might
08:46 rangi           no he wouldnt
08:45 Irma            I don't think I know Alan
08:45 Irma            I wonder if Alan Mc C would be available/interested in writing code for a mobile stylesheet
08:40 kf_afk          I think a mobile styleshee as rangi suggested would be a good addition to koha
08:40 Irma            do you think it would be nice to offer this?
08:39 kf_afk          have not seen a bug yet
08:39 kf_afk          I think there was some discussion on the mailing list a whie ago
08:39 Irma            requests
08:39 Irma            reuests for development
08:39 Irma            and
08:39 Irma            Mobile capability for Koha
08:38 kf_afk          what are you searching for Irma?
08:38 Irma            no match!
08:36 Irma            for a dev request
08:36 Irma            I am having a quick look in Git
08:36 rangi           not in any real way
08:35 Irma            Has there been much interest in providing Koha with mobile capability from other libraries?
08:34 Irma            I see
08:34 rangi           because its not device specific
08:33 Irma            can you expand on why that would be
08:32 rangi           yes, a mobile stylesheet might be better
08:32 Irma            thanks for the additional info rangi
08:32 Irma            I think it would be great because they have many students and students always have their phones with them (of course not all have Android phone)
08:30 Irma            I don't know how important it is to our client to provide Koha with a mobile capability
08:28 Irma            I will get back to you ...
08:26 rangi           we could do a quote, with a spec
08:26 rangi           id have to ask alan
08:25 Irma            I think renewals would be useful
08:25 Irma            Phase 3 (Something for the future?)Basically all additional functionality depend on Koha API being available (and suitable) for Android client to push information and read formatted response. Mimicking a web-user may not be the right approach here.Show overdue itemsShow fines
08:23 rangi           to do what?
08:23 Irma            several days work?
08:23 Irma            what would be the time involved approx?
08:22 Irma            well that should be a suggestion I make aspa in my reply
08:22 rangi           unless someone wants to pay us to
08:22 rangi           no, no one is working on kiritakikoha
08:22 Irma            all good then ...
08:21 rangi           ah yep i thought you meant his old one
08:21 Irma            this one was uploaded in june 2011
08:21 rangi           yes
08:21 Irma            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GbosK2eZlk
08:21 rangi           yes you can do that with standard koha
08:20 Irma            I thought it shows how he placed a hold on a book
08:20 rangi           its just using the barcode scanner that comes with android
08:20 rangi           marc osbornes video isnt using kiritaki koha
08:20 Irma            sine = since
08:19 Irma            Marc Osbone's utube video I found already but I wonder if sine this was written http://code.google.com/p/kiritakikoha/ there is more info re future dev
08:19 rangi           cool
08:18 Irma            just got an inquiry about Kiritaki Koha
08:17 Irma            hi all
08:15 rangi           dont worry tho, yahoo will kill it, they do everything else they touch
08:14 rangi           pipes does much more than just aggregate
08:14 rangi           nope
08:11 slef            rangi: doesn't any feed aggregator do the same as pipes?
07:57 Oak             so it *is* evening now in nz. cool.
07:56 kf_afk          hi rangi
07:55 rangi           evening
07:19 Oak             hello :)
07:19 wahanui         hello, clrh_
07:19 clrh_           hello
07:10 Oak             hello sophie
07:09 sophie_m        hi #koha
07:02 reiveune        :)
07:02 Oak             heya reiveune :)
07:02 reiveune        hi
06:59 kf              hi julian
06:33 julian          hello #koha
06:31 kf              hi alex_a :)
06:30 alex_a          morning kf
06:29 kf              good morning #koha
06:20 alex_a          hello Oak
06:18 Oak             Bonjour alex_a :)
06:11 wahanui         niihau, alex_a
06:11 alex_a          hi
05:49 Brooke          I'm down for the count,.
05:49 Brooke          right schedule is up
05:47 cait            time to go - cya
05:47 Oak             :)
05:47 Oak             later rangi
05:46 rangi           ok my stop cyas later
05:44 rangi           atarau is usually too busy trying to climb a tree to eat much
05:43 cait            :)
05:43 rangi           I usually have an italian potato donut and a coffee
05:42 Oak             :)
05:42 rangi           ahh they are made by bavarians, so probably pretty close
05:41 cait            perhaps you should bring him to germany... so he can compare
05:41 * Oak           googles lederhosen
05:40 cait            hehe
05:34 Brooke          if he starts insisting on lederhosen, worry.
05:34 rangi           he's allowed to spend 5 at the market thats what he always buys
05:34 Brooke          he!
05:34 rangi           for 3 saturdays in a row now, kahu has a brezel and a bratwurst for lunch
05:33 rangi           oh hey cait
05:31 Brooke          welcome back
05:30 rangi           back from the bus
05:28 cait            hi rangi
05:02 eythian         http://i.imgur.com/xRmlZ.jpg
04:59 Oak             :)
04:58 Brooke          hooray
04:58 rangi           http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Category:KohaCon11
04:57 rangi           its all yours again
04:57 rangi           http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Kohacon2011
04:54 Brooke          just lemme know when you're done so I can go back to messin' with it
04:54 Brooke          knock yerself out
04:54 rangi           right, ill shift it then :)
04:54 Brooke          I'm willing to hazard a guess that it's a category and not a page because of all the crap that used to be broken with categories on the wiki
04:53 rangi           why is the kohacon11 page a category, not a page, and can i fix it, cos it annoys me
04:49 Brooke          damn you wiki autoformat XD
04:28 cait            :)
04:28 Oak             good one Mr. robin :)
04:27 eythian         On the flip side, sleep is for the week. And it's most definitely a weekday.
04:27 Brooke          that rule only is reliable for Cait
04:27 Brooke          pfft
04:26 Oak             no sleep for the awesome. both of you. :)
04:25 eythian         heh
04:25 eythian         would it do any good? :)
04:25 Brooke          Robin won't send you back to bed if you don't try and get me to go to sleep :P
04:25 cait            eythian: not trying to send me back to bed? :)
04:24 Brooke          0/
04:24 cait            hi Brooke :)
04:24 Oak             uh oh. wrong bracket
04:24 * Brooke        hugs oak
04:24 Oak             Kia ora Brooke :}
04:24 Brooke          kia ora
04:22 huginn          New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6770] AllowHoldPolicyOverride not working <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6770>
04:22 Oak             nice
04:21 eythian         well, afternoon. But almost evening.
04:20 Oak             ah evening in nz... hm
04:19 cait            evening mr robin
04:19 eythian         Hello Oak :)
04:19 cait            hehe
04:19 Oak             Hello Mr. Robin :)
04:19 eythian         hi cait
04:18 cait            morning #koha
04:18 Oak             hello cait :)
04:18 cait            hi Oak :)
04:18 * Oak           waves
03:28 * druthb        sees from the log that bg was lookin' for her.
02:48 huginn          bg: druthb was last seen in #koha 2 hours, 6 minutes, and 21 seconds ago: <druthb> o/
02:48 bg              @seen druthb
02:48 bg              @seen druthb
02:31 mtj             ... and then use a wordpress rss plugin to display those feeds on seperate pages on the website too
02:30 mtj             i thought it would be good to add an general list of Koha rss feeds to a page on kc.org
02:27 mtj             ah, that works ->   http://wp2.kohaaloha.com/?page_id=97
02:16 mtj             oops, but no external dns to my page...
02:15 huginn          New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6488] opachiddenitems not working in master <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6488>
02:14 mtj             i've been working on getting some kc.org rss feeds up...
02:10 eythian         http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Cxy7J0aZsw <-- also, same band.
02:09 eythian         (unrelated, I just like it)
02:09 eythian         http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOI4pC69jr8 <-- track for today
02:09 eythian         heh
02:05 mtj             guys, make sure you claim your chorekraft gold for that one :p
01:55 em              probably :s
01:55 eythian         I'd find someone who's good with Linux to have a look for you, odds are it'll take them half an hour to figure out.
01:55 em              ok, well, im gonna go :(
01:54 em              :(
01:54 eythian         It's not a one-click install, because that's virtually impossible to do for server software that has to talk to a network.
01:53 em              i have never touched apache
01:53 em              oh no
01:53 eythian         and other things.
01:53 eythian         But, you'll need to know how to tweak apache to behave how you want it to.
01:53 em              how do i do this?
01:53 em              that is good
01:53 eythian         it's a way of installing Koha so that it's integrated into the system better.
01:52 em              what do they do?
01:52 em              i am somewhat comfertable :)
01:52 eythian         but it still requires being comfortable around Linux to a reasonable degree.
01:52 em              im confused
01:51 wahanui         OK, eythian.
01:51 eythian         wahanui: packages is <reply>package info is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.4_on_Debian_Squeeze
01:51 em              lol
01:51 wahanui         eythian: I forgot packages
01:51 eythian         wahanui: forget packages
01:51 wahanui         packages are so easy to build from any branch that was based on master
01:51 eythian         wahanui: packages?
01:50 em              how do i do that? -- yes i do have it enabled, just checkd
01:50 eythian         do you have zebra enabled in Koha? It is by default, but maybe you've changed it.
01:50 * eythian       usually recommends installing from packages, as that magically takes care of it all for you.
01:49 em              why is there stuff in nozebrasearches
01:48 em              well thats dumb
01:48 eythian         search is done by zebra, it won't work if it's not running.
01:48 em              :s
01:48 mtj             ... after you cool down
01:48 mtj             you can read eythian and rangi 's advice, and have another go, later on...
01:48 em              will search work if i shut off zebra
01:47 em              argggggg
01:47 em              ok
01:46 mtj             http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/koha/2011-09-06
01:46 mtj             em: fyi: heres todays logs...
01:46 em              argggggg
01:46 eythian         Usually because zebrasrv isn't running, but if it is, then I'm not sure.
01:45 em              why would it be broken
01:45 em              oh
01:45 eythian         crontabs are for updating the index when something changes.
01:44 em              someone said something about crontabs once upon atime
01:44 eythian         I'm not sure then.
01:44 em              and where it says RECORDS EXPORTED: 2 - that is the right number
01:44 em              with no errors
01:43 em              after re-index
01:43 em              still broken
01:43 em              ok
01:42 eythian         then maybe you need to do the rebuild again, but otherwise it should be working.
01:42 em              there is zebrasrv
01:42 em              yes
01:42 em              just wait
01:41 em              oh
01:41 eythian         hmm
01:41 eythian         zebrazrv?
01:41 em              but not zebrasrv
01:41 em              there is zebra a bunch of times in red
01:40 eythian         <eythian> if you see zebrasrv in there, then it's running, if not, it's not
01:40 eythian         <eythian> ps ax|grep zebra
01:40 em              i left by accident, it is not there :s
01:39 eythian         you can scroll up through the history of the conversation.
01:38 em              how do you check again?
01:38 eythian         Is the zebrasrv process running?
01:38 eythian         that's a bit odd in itself, really. Upgrading shouldn't really touch zebra.
01:37 em              like i said, it works before upgrade, then it breaks
01:37 em              my town is small
01:37 em              that would be hard
01:37 em              :(
01:36 eythian         you're best of finding a friendly, local, sysadmin to do it. Teaching all the required knowledge on how to diagnose things is impossible in a reasonable time frame via IRC.
01:36 em              still broken :(
01:35 em              search broken
01:35 em              hopefully, testing
01:34 eythian         right. So hopefully zebra is running now.
01:34 em              emery@koha-serer:~$
01:34 em              then goes back to
01:34 em              says Starting Zebra Server
01:34 em              asks for password
01:33 em              just a sec
01:33 eythian         yeah. that thing in that link.
01:33 eythian         and what happens when you run 'sudo /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon start'?
01:32 rangi           http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/koha/2011-09-05#i_756196
01:32 em              /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon
01:32 eythian         what do you have?
01:31 em              yes
01:31 eythian         ?
01:31 eythian         do you have an init script in /etc/init.d relating to koha or zebra
01:31 em              that is what the other guy said to do
01:31 em              oh
01:31 eythian         that doesn't start the zebra server.
01:31 eythian         that rebuilds your zebra index
01:31 em              i fixed the path/to parts
01:31 em              sudo -u koha KOHA_CONF=/path/to/koha-conf.xml perl -I /usr/share/koha/lib /path/to/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -x -v -r
01:29 em              i will get the code i used, no errors occoured, but search still broken
01:28 eythian         what happened when you tried to use the init script to start it?
01:28 em              can you help me turn it on now?  :D
01:27 em              but once it is up, i dont have to touch it again :)
01:27 em              no it is not :(
01:27 eythian         well, keep in mind that Koha is a server application, trying to set it up without being at all comfortable working with Linux is never going to be easy.
01:25 em              that does not help me with my problem though :(
01:24 em              thanks
01:24 em              where :o
01:24 lastnode        http://koha-community.org/documentation/3-4-manual-en/
01:24 lastnode        there are em
01:18 em              there needs to be manuals for people like me, stupid people ;)
01:18 em              uhh
01:00 em              im eating dezzert
01:00 em              lunch?
01:00 em              oh
00:59 lastnode        em: eating lunch. lunching.
00:59 em              launchin means what?
00:59 lastnode        hang around :)
00:59 lastnode        em: eythian is lunching
00:58 em              i geuss people left
00:58 em              uhh
00:54 em              ...
00:50 lastnode        eythian: do you run sshd on 22 or a non standard port?
00:50 em              can someone help me turn on zebrasrv
00:50 * eythian       lunches
00:50 eythian         yeah, I installed that too. It's a dangerous place out there :)
00:50 lastnode        teh Internet is brutal yo :(
00:50 lastnode        my vps has ben up 3 days
00:50 lastnode        eythian: thanks, mate. i installed fail2ban last night. i installed it while a japanese ip was hitting me with a bruteforce
00:49 em              hey, can someone help me turn on zebrasrv
00:49 eythian         lastnode: yep
00:42 lastnode        i should be fine, right?
00:42 lastnode        mysql listens but on localhost
00:42 lastnode        i setup iptables last night and it has blocked everything incoming except 80,8080 and 22
00:41 druthb          o/
00:39 em              can someone please email me on how to turn on zebrasrv at emery.cairns@gmail.com as i need to go but need to get it fixed asap :o
00:37 em              umm, still confused about turning on zebrasrv
00:32 em              ok, thanks
00:31 eythian         I don't know your setup. You may have an init script in /etc/init.d/ (probably called 'koha') that starts it.
00:31 em              if it is not on, how do i turn the zebrasrv on?
00:30 em              i dont see zebrasrv, but i see zebra in red
00:29 eythian         if you see zebrasrv in there, then it's running, if not, it's not
00:29 eythian         ps ax|grep zebra
00:29 em              thats what i need to find out
00:29 em              after that, my searches broke
00:29 eythian         is the zebrasrv process running?
00:29 em              i just upgraded koha
00:29 eythian         what do you mean "on update"?
00:28 em              i think its shut off
00:28 em              on update, it stops working
00:28 em              server
00:27 eythian         which aspect of that, it's not a small question. Do you mean the server, or the reindexing tasks, or having Koha talk to it?
00:26 em              i need to know how to turn on zebra
00:26 em              ok
00:25 eythian         if it's quick, I'm doing other stuff at the same time, and am probably going to have a meeting soon.
00:24 em              i'll take that as a no?
00:24 em              ...
00:23 em              not really a problem, just i need help with code
00:22 em              i have another problem
00:22 em              are you still here, can i ask you to help me again?
00:21 em              worked :D
00:20 em              doing sudo make upgrade
00:16 em              re-doing
00:15 em              ok
00:13 eythian         use sudo
00:13 em              useradd: cannot lock /etc/passwd
00:13 em              Help
00:12 em              never mind
00:12 em              oh
00:12 em              that is just ads ...
00:11 em              thanks
00:11 eythian         http://lmgtfy.com/?q=adding+a+user+in+linux
00:09 em              how do i do that?
00:09 eythian         you didn't create a user and group called 'koha'
00:08 em              make: *** [set_koha_ownership] Error 1
00:08 em              chown: invalid user: 'koha:koha'
00:08 em              there was an error :(
00:08 em              oh no
00:07 em              :D
00:07 em              the make test
00:07 em              works
00:06 em              doing make test
00:03 em              finshed installing, re-doing make
00:03 em              ignore ^^
00:03 em              that is my fault
00:03 em              oh, nevermind
00:03 em              also, after make test failed, i cant save any new items :(
00:02 em              found :)
00:02 em              lol, ok
00:02 eythian         libtemplate-perl rather
00:01 em              :s
00:00 em              could not find any package whos name or description matched "libtemplate-toolkit-perl"