Time Nick Message 23:54 rhcl so much for the mibbit connection.... 23:36 rangi heh 23:30 daniel_g pidgin, irc2go, work, home. wresting with nicksrv & ident. finally got here via plain old mibbit and a new nick 23:28 daniel_g good gosh, i just spent a couple hours trying various ways to get here 23:28 wahanui hola, daniel_g 23:28 daniel_g hi 22:36 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6537 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, magnus, ASSIGNED , Simplified sysprefs for the web installer 22:36 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6665 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, NEW , advancedMARCeditor preference not functioning 22:36 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6555 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , only 10 lists in pull down when adding from a bib record 22:36 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Bug 6537 [SIGNED-OFF] follow-up = removing non specific lines for french unimarc 22:36 jenkins_koha * magnus: Bug 6537 - squashed version of the previous 5 commits, signed-off 22:36 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Follow up for 6665 : Fixing the hide_marc pref also 22:36 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 6665 : TT problem was preventing AdvancedMARCEditor pref from working when cataloguing 22:36 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5605 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, ASSIGNED , Add Support for SIP Fee Paid Message 22:36 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 6555 : only 10 lists show in the staff client 22:36 jenkins_koha * colin.campbell: Bug 5605 [ENH] SIP: Add Support for the Fee Paid Message 22:36 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #404: STILL UNSTABLE in 43 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/404/ 22:03 rangi heya danielg1 21:52 jenkins_koha Starting build 404 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #385 19 j ago) 21:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6732 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , Missing Title for Manual Invoice 21:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6724 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, brett, ASSIGNED , Holds Ratio does not allow decimals 21:52 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 6732 : Showing the bibliographic title on the manual invoices line 21:52 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Updating about file and history doc 21:52 jenkins_koha * brett: bug 6724: enable decimals on values greater than 1 21:51 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #403: STILL UNSTABLE in 45 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/403/ 21:32 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6537 [SIGNED-OFF] follow-up = removing non specific lines for french unimarc <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=aa239bc430d04583f3197513e89c4a40886d0049> / Bug 6537 - squashed version of the previous 5 commits, signed-off <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6bd38d3eabc79c68cb90193378c69825ddac2a43> 21:15 rangi cya sekjal 21:15 sekjal have a good night, #koha 21:15 sekjal rangi: cool. gtg. 21:14 rangi testing 6537 now 21:10 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Follow up for 6665 : Fixing the hide_marc pref also <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=34b553d03b96cb3c84ec978f6eea542f38f60de3> / Bug 6665 : TT problem was preventing AdvancedMARCEditor pref from working when catalo... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4363ff6669c92d0fbbd891fa870bd2cb5e021e9e> / Bug 6555 : only 10 lists show in the staff client <http://git.koha-c 21:06 jenkins_koha Starting build 403 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #385 19 j ago) 21:00 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6732 : Showing the bibliographic title on the manual invoices line <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e71b4faf789ab872d94c8f20c0c252b5550da2d0> / Updating about file and history doc <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f09e8403119c08861ef1cec466447012b1b2775b> / bug 6724: enable decimals on values greater than 1 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a 20:59 cait good night all 20:49 rangi 154 already 20:42 libsysguy i love crazy mixes 20:42 cait :) 20:41 rangi libsysguy: your reward http://soundcloud.com/djbl3nd/loko-mix 20:40 * wizzyrea giggles 20:40 rangi yes 20:40 cait is his nickname bug? 20:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6724 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, brett, ASSIGNED , Holds Ratio does not allow decimals 20:39 rangi bug 6724 20:39 cait bugs first patch? 20:38 libsysguy welcome 20:38 rangi libsysguy++ #for the reminder email 20:37 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6537 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, magnus, ASSIGNED , Simplified sysprefs for the web installer 20:37 hdl bug 6537 20:36 rangi ohh bug's first patch 20:34 nengard :) 20:31 rangi looks like ive got some pushing to do 20:31 rangi w00t w00t 20:28 sekjal 6537 passed QA 20:25 huginn Brooke: The operation succeeded. 20:25 Brooke @later tell Oak A Peck on the Cheek http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0312859/ 20:24 rangi back 20:23 cait magnus_away will be back on thursday 20:23 cait and only en needs to include all files 20:22 cait but I don't think we had language specific changes recently 20:22 cait you only have to do it once 20:22 cait I think manually perhaps 20:21 cait not sure 20:21 sekjal cait: do you know if the new files for 6537 were generated algorithmically, or manually? 20:12 cait that should be ok 20:11 cait 1 + 7 = 8 here 20:10 rangi ok my bus stop bbiab 20:09 libsysguy hehe ok :) 20:09 rangi send out a reminder for general meeting too while ur at it :) 20:08 libsysguy i can send out the email? 20:08 libsysguy ok so thursday at 1? 20:08 cait just let me know when and where 20:08 cait :) 20:07 cait ok 20:06 pelletiermaxime ah, it's in the installer. Never used it before hehe 20:05 libsysguy and maybe generate some interest 20:05 libsysguy just to make sure we have all of our bases covered 20:05 libsysguy yes basically 20:05 cait brain storming? 20:05 cait libsysguy: what do you want to achieve with the meeting? 20:04 rangi yeah that would rule 20:03 cait if we get that in it will get a lot less work to add new sys prefs 20:03 libsysguy thursday would work best for me 20:03 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6537 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, magnus, ASSIGNED , Simplified sysprefs for the web installer 20:03 cait sekjal: could you look at bug 6537 when you have time? 20:03 rangi someone should send a reminder now 20:02 cait the meeting... 20:02 cait almost forgot about it 20:02 cait oh yes, tomorrow! 20:02 pelletiermaxime hmmm and where can I find that sample data ? 20:01 sekjal thursday or friday I'm pretty free midday 20:00 sekjal tomorrow at 1pm (Eastern) is the Koha IRC meeting... I imagine that will be going on for at least two hours 19:59 libsysguy i wonder how that works for sekjal 19:59 libsysguy ok so im always free at 1 19:58 cait for before now your time 19:58 rangi ah yeah the sample data 19:58 cait not later than 10 pm for me 19:57 libsysguy so around 5 or evening like 8 or 9 19:57 pelletiermaxime rangi: the test adds a member with S as a categorycode. Surely I need to have something in my bd before executing the tests ? 19:57 cait evening is better for me - but not too late 19:56 libsysguy i see...well I have classes kind of randomly throughout the day 19:56 cait 7 hours 19:56 cait almot 10 pm 19:55 libsysguy oh almost 10 19:54 libsysguy what time is it for you now? 19:54 libsysguy 2:53 19:54 cait libsysguy: 19:54 pelletiermaxime rangi: ok thanks. Trying to figure out how jenkins work hehe 19:54 cait what time is it for younow? 19:54 rangi im on the bus so hard for me to look 19:53 rangi jenkins.koha-community.org 19:53 libsysguy which is after 2 my time 19:53 libsysguy sekjal I think prefers after 3 his time 19:53 rangi you could look at jenkins see how it runs them? 19:53 libsysguy anyway so between when and when are you cool with meeting 19:53 pelletiermaxime Members 19:53 rangi what test pelletiermaxime ? 19:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6390 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, ef, ASSIGNED , Basket only visible for librarian who created it 19:52 rangi no change to the syspref .sql for bug 6390 either ... has magnuses patch been pushed so we dont need that? I think even with that still need english eh 19:52 pelletiermaxime rangi: really? Ok, must be a problem on my db because I get fk constraints fails :/ 19:51 rangi hmm 19:51 libsysguy hehe 19:51 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1234 enhancement, P2, ---, paul.poulain, RESOLVED WORKSFORME, Parameter: Bar Code # Prefix for book / patron searching 19:51 libsysguy yeah like if you do bug 1234 19:51 cait make the bot jump? 19:51 libsysguy ok poke cait 19:51 rangi perl t/db_dependent/name.t oughta do it 19:51 libsysguy hehe 19:51 cait bug me now 19:50 libsysguy aww i was hoping bug you would make the bot jump 19:50 libsysguy cait_dinner: i forgot to bug you 19:48 cait_dinner morning rangi 19:46 oleonard Hi rangi 19:46 pelletiermaxime not sure what I need to do before running the db_dependent tests 19:46 rangi Morning 19:45 pelletiermaxime Is there any doc in the wiki or anywhere on how to run the Test::More suite in t/ ? 19:19 nengard cait++ (for report help) 19:19 cait_dinner nengard++ 19:15 Emery bye 19:15 Emery ok 19:13 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6390] Basket only visible for librarian who created it <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6390> 19:12 jwagner Emery, it doesn't look like anyone is available right now who can help you. You might try back later when users in another timezone are online. 19:09 Emery helpssssssssssssssss 19:09 Emery plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz 19:07 Emery :( 19:06 Emery and my problem is not there 19:05 Emery it does not help 19:05 Emery i have looked ther 19:05 wahanui i think searching faq is at http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/searching/ 19:05 oleonard searching faq? 19:05 Emery please 19:04 Emery i have suscessfully installed koha 3.4 but search still broken 19:03 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6841] A member with cataloging permissions cannot change branches (when independent branches is set on) <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6841> 19:03 Emery can you help me now? 19:03 wizzyrea bbiab 19:03 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6841 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, wizzyrea, ASSIGNED , A member with cataloging permissions cannot change branches (when independent branches is set on) 19:03 wizzyrea chris_n: bug 6841 18:59 Emery :'( 18:55 Emery search is broken 18:55 Emery ARG 18:54 Emery help? 18:52 Emery :( *sniff* *sniff* 18:51 Emery i geuss i dont get help .. 18:49 Emery help? 18:47 Emery im confused 18:47 Emery but you say to do it as koha 18:47 Emery google says to do it as root 18:45 Emery i geuss i will googles it :/ 18:45 Emery and it still errors but this time it is , Cant write-open blib/man3 ... 18:44 Emery sudo -u koha make upgrade 18:44 Emery i ran 18:44 Emery Hel[p 18:44 wizzyrea ^^ 18:44 Emery lol 18:44 oleonard Productivity time. 18:43 Emery its 11:42 am here 18:43 Emery what time is it where you are? 18:43 * wizzyrea wanders off to do something productive. 18:43 * oleonard is feeling lazier by the minute. 18:43 Emery lol 18:43 wizzyrea me too *yawn* 18:43 Emery Just like all the suckers who have to go to school today :D 18:42 Emery :D ehh, feeling lazy today 18:42 oleonard :| 18:42 wizzyrea perhaps you're in the wrong line of work :P 18:42 Emery i just hate searching for awnsers :D 18:41 wizzyrea http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.com/Errors-while-installing-test-Koha-td3395866.html 18:41 wizzyrea more specifically, in those results 18:40 oleonard Emery: You hate Google, or you hate searching for the answers to your questions? There are other search engines if it's the former. 18:40 cait_dinner nengard: i could try to figure it out in a few minutes 18:40 Emery i will do that 18:39 wizzyrea that's your right. 18:39 Emery yeah yeah 18:39 Emery i hate google 18:39 wizzyrea remember that saying about teaching a man to fish? 18:39 cait_dinner nengard: do you have a little time for it? 18:39 wizzyrea that's the way we figure out our problems. 18:39 Emery :D thats the second time today 18:39 Emery REally? 18:39 Emery ok 18:38 wizzyrea http://tinyurl.com/3qy5xmq 18:38 Emery ... 18:37 Emery do i give perrmissions to the user koha or ...? 18:36 Emery wizzyrea, how do i fix this? 18:36 nengard from borrowers b WHERE b.borrowernumber NOT IN (SELECT borrowernumber from borrower_message_preferences p where p.message_attribute_id = 4) and b.email is not null order by b.branchcode, b.surname, b.firstname, b.email asc 18:36 nengard select b.branchcode, b.surname, b.firstname, b.cardnumber, b.email 18:36 nengard i need some report help - i need a report that shows all the patrons who have email addresses on their account but do not get the hold filled email - here's what I have ... but i'm not sure this is right 18:36 Emery :( 18:36 wizzyrea looks like you have a date with the googles. 18:35 Emery :s 18:35 wizzyrea heh. 18:35 Emery Unable to open MakeMaker.tmp Permission denied 18:35 Emery oh no 18:33 Emery will do 18:33 Emery ok 18:33 wizzyrea I would log in as koha and run the makefile again, but I'm cautious like that 18:33 Emery that may not be good :o 18:33 Emery now do i have to re run the Makefile.PL or can i log in as koha and run sudo make upgrade 18:33 * wizzyrea has no idea what state your permissions are in 18:32 Emery created user and group 18:32 Emery ok 18:32 wizzyrea yep 18:32 Emery sudo -u koha ? 18:32 Emery oh 18:31 wizzyrea ok, first. You should probably be logged in as your Koha user to be doing this 18:30 Emery do i have to re-do perl Makefile.PL after or can i just re-do sudo make upgrade 18:30 Emery i will create them 18:29 Emery maybe not :o 18:29 Emery i though i did 18:29 wizzyrea do you have a koha user and group? 18:29 Emery make *** [set_koha_ownership] Error 1 18:28 Emery chown: invalid user: 'koha:koha' 18:28 Emery ok, i have done that and there is an error :( as fallows 18:28 Emery yay :D i love fishing 18:28 wizzyrea go fishing. ;) 18:28 Emery lol 18:28 wizzyrea give a man a fish and he'll be hungry tomorrow. Teach a man to fish and he'll never go hungry again. 18:27 wizzyrea you know what they say 18:27 Emery i have not looked in awhile 18:27 Emery umm, i dont know, i think so ... 18:27 wizzyrea is that what the instructions say? 18:27 Emery yes? 18:27 wizzyrea \o/ 18:26 Emery sudo make upgrade? 18:26 Emery RESULT: PASS :D 18:26 Emery almost done, i hope :D 18:26 Emery yep 18:26 libsysguy gotta run for a bit 18:25 Emery doing make test now 18:25 Emery i have done make 18:25 Emery ok 18:25 libsysguy yeah you should be able to proceed 18:25 Emery so i continue? 18:25 Emery ok, that is good :D 18:24 libsysguy with 500 records I doubt your using it 18:24 libsysguy its cool 18:24 Emery :'( 18:24 Emery Warning: prerequisite CGI::Session:: Driver::memcached 0.04 not found 18:22 Emery ok 18:22 libsysguy rerun the installer 18:22 Emery ok 18:22 libsysguy nope 18:22 Emery so i dont do sudo apt-get install ... 18:22 Emery oh 18:22 libsysguy ok then that is all you need 18:22 Emery and it worked 18:22 Emery yes, i have done that 18:21 libsysguy sudo** 18:21 libsysguy so you are typing exactly this: udo cpan -i CGI::Session::Driver::memcached 18:21 wizzyrea if you typed that you typed it wrong. 18:21 Emery still :s 18:21 Emery Unable To Locate libsession-driver-memcached-perl 18:21 Emery yes, i just did that, typo :D but , 18:21 wizzyrea command not found or package not found? I just verified that CGI::Session::Driver::memcached installs 18:21 Emery Unable To Locate libsession-driver-memcached-perl 18:20 Emery approx 18:19 Emery 500 18:19 libsysguy how many do you have? 18:19 Emery lol, We have not finished entering our records yet :p 18:19 wizzyrea sudo cpan -i CGI::Session::Driver::memcached 18:19 wizzyrea oh bother. one more for the girls in the back. 18:19 libsysguy emery what library do you work for that only has 2 books 18:19 Emery Command not Found 18:18 Emery :D 18:18 Emery ok 18:18 libsysguy hehe oops i missed that one 18:18 wizzyrea that will be sudo cpan -i CGI::session::driver::memcached 18:18 Emery Command not Found 18:18 wizzyrea actually 18:18 libsysguy will do 18:18 libsysguy haha 18:17 cait libsysguy: ok, ask me in 15 minutes ;) 18:17 Emery ok 18:17 wizzyrea sudo cpan -i session::driver::memcached 18:17 Emery ok 18:17 libsysguy and perl 18:17 libsysguy and strip the lib 18:17 Emery ok 18:17 libsysguy replace the - with :: 18:17 Emery that would be sudo cpan -i libsession-drive..... 18:16 Emery ok 18:16 libsysguy then build it with cpan just like you did with template 18:16 Emery Unable To Locate libsession-driver-memcached-perl 18:15 Emery thanks 18:14 wizzyrea sudo apt-get install libsession-driver-memcached-perl 18:14 Emery oh, how do i install that 18:14 libsysguy so memcached too 18:14 libsysguy after you do that for all the missing packages 18:14 Emery now what? re-do perl Makefile.PL 18:14 Emery no what? re-do perl Makefile.PL 18:13 Emery Install -- OK 18:13 Emery Sure! thats always fun :D 18:13 Emery lol 18:12 libsysguy there will be a lot...hope you are in for some rapid Y pressing 18:12 Emery ok 18:12 wizzyrea ^^ 18:12 libsysguy yes to all 18:12 Emery do i want to build the XS Stash module ??? 18:12 wizzyrea nah, prolly not. 18:12 libsysguy hehe 18:12 wizzyrea >.> 18:12 wizzyrea you meant about libsysguy. 18:11 wizzyrea yes. oh, wait. 18:11 libsysguy i want to schedule a meeting with you and sekjal about notices 18:11 cait should I be scared? 18:11 wizzyrea sudo cpan -i Template 18:11 Emery should i do that? 18:11 cait hi libsysguy 18:11 Emery it errors : dont use install , just cpan Template 18:11 libsysguy cait :D 18:11 libsysguy my bad 18:11 libsysguy ^^ 18:10 wizzyrea sudo cpan install Template 18:10 Emery ok 18:10 libsysguy you can also try cpan install Template 18:10 Emery 10.10 18:10 Emery ubuntu 18:10 wizzyrea what OS? 18:09 Emery unable to locate package libtemplate-perl 18:09 wizzyrea then try your makefile again. 18:08 wizzyrea and sudo apt-get install libsession-driver-memcached-perl 18:08 Emery ok 18:08 wizzyrea you want to do sudo apt-get install libtemplate-perl 18:08 Emery yeah 18:08 wizzyrea heh 18:08 libsysguy so foo-bar would refer to your package 18:07 libsysguy right but keep in mind these are abstract as to fit your pacakges 18:07 Emery i was fallowing what it said to do 18:07 Emery no ... ? 18:07 libsysguy and libsession-driver-memcached-perl 18:06 libsysguy so you did libtemplate-perl? 18:06 Emery i am on the step where it says 18:06 Emery it cant find them 18:06 Emery yea 18:06 wahanui rumour has it the wiki is http://wiki.koha-community.org 18:06 libsysguy oh the wiki 18:05 Emery the link you gave me to install the missing stuf 18:05 libsysguy what exactly did you run? 18:05 libsysguy I don't think I've told you to install any package 18:05 Emery the one you tolde me to install 18:04 libsysguy what package 18:04 Emery it errors unable to locate package 18:03 Emery ok 18:03 libsysguy oh haha 18:03 libsysguy it shouldn't but i would most certainly wait until its finished 18:03 Emery no, but i only have 2 records at the moment, no big deal 18:02 libsysguy umm have you backed up your db just incase? 18:02 Emery it has not finshed yet 18:02 Emery ok 18:02 libsysguy and then run rc-d update 18:02 Emery do you know if it will erase my records on update? 18:02 libsysguy ok so im pretty sure you ln -s /koha-dev/bin/koha-zebra-ctl.sh to /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon 18:01 Emery installing ... 17:59 Emery ok, i will do that and will be back once im done :D 17:59 libsysguy i can't seem to remember the name of that file 17:59 Emery ok 17:58 libsysguy this should help with the above errors http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/How_to_install_missing_Perl_modules_on_Debian 17:58 Emery Warning: prerequisite Template 2.22 not found 17:58 Emery Warning: prerequisite CGI::Session:: Driver::memcached 0.04 not found 17:58 Emery Warning: prerequisite CGI::Session::Driver::memcached 0.04 not found 17:57 Emery ignore ^^ 17:57 Emery Warning: per 17:57 Emery note: when i do perl Makefile.PL this error occours, 17:56 Emery ok 17:56 libsysguy one sec 17:56 Emery im confused ... 17:54 Emery so what am i moving? 17:53 Emery oh 17:53 libsysguy right so that is the wrong script to be in there 17:53 Emery yes it is 17:52 libsysguy right but its the daemon script no? 17:51 Emery what do you mean? move the script, it is already at /etc/init.d ... 17:51 libsysguy i think the daemon is depricated 17:51 libsysguy you might want to stop the daemon and just move the server script to /etc/init.d 17:50 Emery yeah i dont know what happens 17:50 libsysguy its ok 17:49 Emery sorry, for slow responce 17:49 Emery yes 17:48 libsysguy hmm...im not an upgrade expert but was teh search server running as a daemon? 17:45 Emery can anyone help me? many people have tried but no-one can find out why, after upgrade to 3.40.40 search breaks, zebra srv is running and everything is fine, i go back to 3.2 and search works !?!?!?!?!? :o so if anyone wants to help it would be apriciated 17:26 jcamins Whatever the point might be. 17:26 jcamins Always glad to belabor the point. :) 17:24 nengard i missed it the first time, so glad you repeated it 17:24 * jcamins corects his to-do list so he doesn't tell nengard a third time. 17:24 * jcamins has a case of the Mondays, too. 17:24 jcamins nengard: I already told you that, sorry for the repeat. 17:24 jcamins nengard: I changed the RSS/Atom feeds for my website. Let me know if you have any problems. 17:01 chris_n thanks to you 17:01 wizzyrea thanks! 17:01 wizzyrea YUM 17:01 * chris_n passes wizzyrea some fresh guacamole sauce and chips 17:01 wizzyrea but, right after lunch :P 17:00 wizzyrea you'll have the patch anyway :) 17:00 wizzyrea well 17:00 wizzyrea and if they don't like it 17:00 chris_n branch's even 17:00 wizzyrea k, i'll go ahead and submit it 17:00 chris_n and I cannot think of a situation in which one would want to prevent the viewing of certain branches catalogs 17:00 wizzyrea "can set branch" or some nonsense. 16:59 chris_n I'm not sure where else we would put it 16:59 wizzyrea but *should* it be fixed in the way I'm thinking 16:58 wizzyrea it's easy enough to fix. :) 16:58 * wizzyrea is just trying to think of the broader implications of such a change 16:58 * chris_n looks at the permissions a moment 16:58 chris_n I think that's sound reasoning 16:57 chris_n yes 16:57 wizzyrea sok 16:57 chris_n sorry 16:57 * chris_n is really not paying attention 16:57 chris_n sheesh 16:57 wizzyrea was "can user management" 16:57 wizzyrea what it looked for originally 16:56 wizzyrea from a cataloger's point of view 16:56 wizzyrea it seems logical to me that there would be cases in most independent branches setup that would require changing the set branch sometimes 16:56 chris_n unless we want to create a permission for the label tool 16:56 chris_n no, I think that it makes sense to make it dependent upon catalogue edit permission 16:55 wizzyrea i'm looking at them and I just don't know 16:55 wizzyrea (for the template) 16:55 wizzyrea it would certainly fix your problem. Is there another permission that would be better? 16:54 wizzyrea s/is required/all that should be required 16:54 chris_n wizzyrea: what you've done sounds good to me 16:54 jcamins nengard_lunch: if you notice that the RSS/Atom feed for cpbibliography.com isn't working, could you let me know? 16:54 wizzyrea i'm sure there's a solution 16:54 chris_n :-) 16:54 wizzyrea I won't do that to you 16:54 wizzyrea no no 16:53 * chris_n screams as he sees yet another syspref coming 16:53 wizzyrea what do you think? I think in any case, view catalogue is all that is required to change set branch 16:53 chris_n I could see situations where there is non-centralized cataloging where one may not want the catalogers to be able to change their branch 16:52 chris_n heh 16:52 wizzyrea how apt. 16:52 wizzyrea *giggle* 16:52 wahanui libraries are the kings of overcomplication 16:52 wizzyrea libraries 16:52 wizzyrea but I wonder if that's best for all "independent branches" 16:52 wizzyrea to allow changes only to catalogers 16:52 wizzyrea and I've made the template look for "can user edit catalogue" 16:52 chris_n k 16:52 wizzyrea question on 6841 -- I've backed down the necessary permissions to set the branch from circ to view catalog 16:51 chris_n here 16:51 wizzyrea chris_n about? 16:39 wizzyrea oops 16:39 jcamins Don't do a Replace All to globally change the font in a file of labels. 16:39 * jcamins crashes LibreOffice. 16:35 wizzyrea fascinating 16:35 wizzyrea I hadn't ever looked at that before. 16:35 wizzyrea hdl: thanks for the selenium idea 16:34 wizzyrea and I also forgot 16:34 wizzyrea I've looked at that before too 16:34 * oleonard thought he had tested that holds bug, sees from his comment on the bug that he did...and forgot he had commented. 16:28 wizzyrea mhm 16:28 hdl (if it is the second time the problem occur, it is one time too much) 16:28 hdl wizzyrea: I definitely think that selenium tests would help. 16:27 hdl wizzyrea: would need to see what is causing that. 16:27 wizzyrea but I could be completely misunderstanding. 16:26 wizzyrea hdl, I don't think that your patches would help on this, since the thing that broke it was post TT 16:26 wizzyrea actually, I think this is the 2nd time it has happened 16:25 * oleonard didn't realize the bug was that old 16:22 wizzyrea ooo 16:21 hdl because of tt move. 16:21 hdl oleonard: because we need to rebase /rewrite all the patches. 16:21 wizzyrea YES that 16:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6687 critical, P5, ---, ian.walls, NEW , cannot move people in the holds queue 16:21 wizzyrea no, def not 16:21 oleonard Bug 6687 16:21 oleonard No, not that one. 16:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6691 critical, P5, ---, pianohacker, NEW , Can't place hold even with override on 16:21 wizzyrea i'd sign off on them :) 16:21 oleonard Bug 6691 16:20 oleonard Why haven't they been submitted already? 16:20 wizzyrea that would be super :D 16:20 hdl And send them. 16:20 hdl Maybe sophie_m could take the patches for that. 16:20 hdl on our branch. 16:20 wizzyrea oo, when? 16:19 hdl wizzyrea: we fixed that one on master. 16:16 wizzyrea i will look thanks owen 16:16 wizzyrea hmm 16:16 wizzyrea i suspect this has something to do with the patch that changed reserves.pl to use borrowernumber instead of cardnumber 16:16 oleonard I've seen that too wizzyrea, and I thought there was a bug report for it 16:16 wizzyrea instead of reordering the holds 16:16 wizzyrea none of them seem to be working, they all seem to try and place the hold again for that person 16:15 wizzyrea can someone verify for me -- the buttons on request.pl to reorder/delete holds 16:10 libsysguy that would be fantastic...im all for faster indexing 16:10 hdl I hope we can also master some shards implementation and mergeFactor so that indexing time is reduced. 16:09 libsysguy ok cool 16:08 hdl But we are experimenting so that we find the best parameters for that at the moment. 16:08 hdl it indexes 200 biblio edits in less than 2 mn at the moment but we are indexing 10 by 10 which is a parameter we will raise up to 100. 16:07 libsysguy so if we added 22K new ebooks all at once it would be slower? 16:06 libsysguy gotcha 16:06 hdl libsysguy: it depends on your volume of biblio/items record edition at once. 16:05 libsysguy or is it variable 16:04 libsysguy have you worked out the delay time yet? 16:04 hdl Therefore, less indexing. 16:04 libsysguy gotcha 16:04 hdl it packs biblios and sends them to solr 16:03 libsysguy or close to it 16:03 hdl So there will is delay, but it is a deamon which sends records to solr some biblios at once. 16:03 wizzyrea cool 16:03 libsysguy yup 16:03 wizzyrea 500000 bibs? 16:03 libsysguy right we'd have the same issue since we have 500000 records 16:03 wizzyrea ^^ very not good 16:02 hdl Which is not good. 16:02 hdl actually, there is an indexing queue we are working on at the moment because on 400000 records, and the way koha is structured... (touching items multiple times in the circulation process) the indexing process would slow down the circulation process. 16:02 wizzyrea the one that fixes the super-exploit discovered a couple of weeks ago? 16:01 wizzyrea does anyone know, is the patch for apache2 out yet? 16:00 libsysguy so there would be no delay in adding records with solr 16:00 libsysguy hdl sorry for bugging you with questions but im pretty interested in trying out solr when you guys get it ready 15:58 jcamins oleonard: probably you have to use a different technique to trick it into using a mobile stylesheet. 15:57 hdl hard disk space is the same as the DB with zebra. 15:56 libsysguy oh...man that is next to nothing imo 15:56 hdl 1G RAM. 15:56 oleonard jcamins: Seems unlikely that the iPhone is refusing to use the stylesheet arbitrarily 15:56 libsysguy hdl what do you mean by 1G...like of Ram or extra Harddisk space? 15:55 libsysguy *catching up* 15:55 libsysguy sorry guys i stepped away 15:53 jcamins Even though every other mobile browser (with the possible exception of mobile IE, which I don't care about) handles it correctly. 15:53 jcamins It would seem that iPhone will not use the mobile stylesheet. 15:53 jcamins oleonard: I have a custom mobile stylesheet that changes my menu from being horizontal to being vertical, so that no scrolling is required. 15:52 hdl we have one library with 400000+ items with solr being allocated 1G. 15:52 oleonard jcamins: Is your complaint about text flow? 15:51 hdl It could be understood in many ways. 15:51 hdl jcamins: ah ... this is why I said i did not understand the meaning.... 15:50 jcamins hdl: libsysguy's question was about how powerful a server you need to run solr. 15:50 hdl But we cannot build that from scratch. 15:49 hdl libsysguy: at the moment we are willing to help ppl getting zebra into that. 15:49 hdl And trying to port features we already did into 3.6 3.8. 15:48 hdl in fact, at the moment, we are only stabilising the solr work. 15:48 hdl libsysguy: I donot understand the meaning of your question. 15:48 hdl libsysguy: I donot understand the meaning of your questions. 15:48 coryj_away Thanks oleonard. Sorry for the delayed thanks... was pulled away from my desk for a while. 15:47 wizzyrea probably curious, or trying to make a plan. :) 15:47 hdl Why are you asking ? 15:46 hdl libsysguy: how much extra horsepower are you guys using over zebra ? 15:46 hdl libsysguy: sorry ? 15:46 wizzyrea *nod* 15:45 lastnode does that make sense? 15:45 lastnode basically koha-dump then rsync /var/spool/koha/mysite with another server 15:45 lastnode im writing a bash script i hope to run daily across machines 15:43 jcamins iphone-- # I get that standards are anathema to peole as cool as Apple fans, but the "Experience" would be a lot better if you rendered the page in such a way that it actually fits on the screen. 15:21 libsysguy how much extra horsepower are you guys using over zebra 15:20 hdl1 libsysguy1: we are. 15:20 hdl1 (just me, when I first had the problem.) 15:20 libsysguy1 hdl1: you guys are the ones working with Solr right? 15:19 hdl1 (It is a bug of the rebuild_zebra.pl imho, but no library complained about that) 15:18 hdl1 if nothing in file, then it just do nothing. 15:18 wizzyrea hm 15:18 libsysguy1 excellent I have a question for you 15:18 libsysguy1 ohh hdl1 you are here 15:18 hdl1 and then reindex the whole stuff. 15:18 hdl1 then if Koha exports a file, then it will do a zebraidx init. 15:17 hdl1 when -r 15:17 wizzyrea right 15:17 hdl1 And -r is done only when rebuild_zebra (Koha) exports an iso2709 file 15:16 hdl1 wizzyrea: -b -a are not working when they are used on the same command line. 15:16 hdl1 yes. 15:14 wizzyrea can someone explain to me the difference between what happens when you do this http://koha-community.org/documentation/3-4-manual-en/?ch=x15097 and when you do a "normal" reindex (sudo -u <kohauser> misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -r) ? 15:03 reiveune bye 14:59 nengard bye 14:59 kf_away bye all 14:58 kf_away and time to go for me - distance study deadline is near... 14:58 kf_away nengard++ sekjal++ :) 14:58 nengard yuppers 14:58 oleonard nengard announces her return with signed-off patches 14:57 nengard :) 14:57 wizzyrea ooh yea and welcome back nengard :) 14:57 * oleonard is ready for some work to get over the weekend 14:57 wizzyrea hehe 14:57 nengard vacation pics for all to see: http://www.flickr.com/photos/nengard/sets/72157627606452296 14:57 * sekjal had a VERY full weekend, and could use another to help recover from it 14:56 nengard and it's "monday" 14:56 nengard it's dreary and rainy and my baby girl is sick 14:56 * jcamins is very impressed with himself for coming up with a cultural reference. 14:56 nengard wish i stayed in jamaica instead of coming home 14:56 jcamins_away Looks like someone has a case of the Mondays! 14:56 libsysguy1 there is really no escaping monday 14:56 libsysguy1 for the most part...but I fear that i have a Monday tuesday today 14:55 wizzyrea I trust your long holiday treated you well? 14:55 libsysguy1 morning wizzyrea 14:53 oleonard Hi wizzyrea 14:52 wizzyrea mornin peeps 14:15 * Oak waves 14:14 jcamins_away Two minutes later, replying to the first one with the exact same text? 14:13 jcamins_away How many times does the same message need to get sent? 14:09 oleonard that's been a tough one apparently. 14:08 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6190] Custom field removal from patron entry screens <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6190> 13:37 * kf_away offers oleonard a cookie 13:34 oleonard Grr... I'm tired of people emailing the same question to the list over and over. 13:16 lastnode oh my bad, oleonard 13:12 oleonard I wasn't talking to you lastnode 13:12 lastnode new library 13:11 lastnode we dont have offline data oleonard 13:05 oleonard http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_offline_circulation_file_format 13:05 oleonard /cgi-bin/koha/offline_circ/process_koc.pl 13:05 oleonard coryj: I don't know what the best option is, but one is to use the offline circulation data upload tool 13:03 oleonard lastnode: the "/" indicates where the local cataloger could truncate the call number if they choose 13:02 coryj Is there a tool/option to "check out" items to users based on a CSV file? We are migrating one of our libraries with a large number of existing checked out items. 13:02 lastnode oleonard: so / means not-specific? 12:50 oleonard And the library is given the option, via the "/" of whether or not to be that specific in their own classification of the book. 12:49 oleonard LC catalogers decide. 12:49 lastnode still trying to figure out how .52 are arrived at 12:49 lastnode in koha, the great gatsby is classified in LC as 813/.52 12:24 oleonard Hi #koha. 12:13 lastnode haev a good lunch :) 12:13 lastnode thanks slef! 12:12 slef lunchtime... bbl 12:11 lastnode ok 12:10 slef there's a simple bug for you to report. http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=installer/data/mysql/en/optional/parameters.txt;h=a10456232158a925799e3e7e26620410944b3850;hb=HEAD is wrong 12:10 * lastnode bookmarks the git repo 12:09 lastnode thanks slef 12:09 lastnode haha 12:09 slef they're all in sample_z3950_servers 12:09 slef yeah, no z39.50 servers in there 12:09 lastnode (sample_z3950_servers) is the other one 12:09 slef http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=installer/data/mysql/en/optional/parameters.sql;h=84a176b60a2b296ac11662d8f51c71f34413e9ef;hb=HEAD 12:09 lastnode ok 12:09 slef I suspect that's a bad description but I'll check 12:08 lastnode (parameters) 12:08 slef what's that one called? I'll bring it up in a browser 12:08 lastnode the sample servers are mentioned here, and in teh last opton too 12:08 slef Heh, bad jargon use by both of us = fail! 12:08 lastnode Some basic settings including USD currency, and a sampling of Z39.50 servers. 12:08 lastnode gotcha 12:07 lastnode oh right, patrno_attributes, when you said "install" you mean select it in tbhis screen 12:07 slef Files that get loaded into the Koha database at installation time. 12:07 slef I thought you were choosing data files. 12:07 slef I'm confused. I don't understand how this is a plugin. 12:07 lastnode these bits im asking you about 12:07 lastnode ive setup koha like 15 times now, but i never eralyl figured out what htese do 12:07 lastnode i dont follow 12:06 slef I thought you were still choosing data files? 12:06 lastnode patron_attributes here is a plugin? 12:06 slef although I don't remember testing that myself 12:06 slef I think it means that if you install patron_atributes, it makes it optional whether patron's barcode is shown on their summary screen 12:05 lastnode what you said, yeah 12:05 lastnode slef: yeah, i have the manual open 12:05 slef although I say that, I can't find that one :) 12:03 wahanui manual is at http://www.koha-community.org/documentation 12:03 slef manual? 12:03 slef I think it makes it optional. Seriously, are you reading the manual? 12:02 lastnode option is - Useful patron atribute types: 12:02 lastnode (patron_atributes) 12:02 lastnode slef: do you know waht this means? * SHOW_BCODE - Show barcode on the patron summary screen items listings 12:01 slef I think we've mysqldumps and the hot sync/mirror thingy whose name I've forgotten right now 12:01 slef (our hosting is networked cooperatively in various ways) 12:00 lastnode slef: you justbackup usign sql dump? 12:00 lastnode ok 12:00 slef I don't use the deb packages so I'm not sure. 11:57 lastnode slef: either way as long as i koha-dump regularly (usign deb packages), i can edit these isntall values later, right? 11:56 lastnode to see sup 11:56 lastnode first 11:56 lastnode yeah we're doing a 100 book trial 11:56 lastnode slef: oh right 11:56 slef Well, for example, if you start using something like a branch code, then you change your mind on it, you have to get all books out of that branch before you can delete it and even then I think it's non-trivial. 11:56 lastnode just got what you maent 11:55 lastnode slef: oh, atm we'll be using Fast Add 11:55 lastnode ok 11:55 slef but I think maybe worst case with frameworks is things we'll revert to default framework 11:55 lastnode i dont get you 11:55 slef well, most things you probably want to decide before you start using them in earnest 11:54 lastnode ok np slef thank you 11:54 slef "It depends" but I think we usually install them. I'm installing something else, so don't have my koha notes handy today. 11:54 lastnode but i figure it wouldnt hurt to have them lying around for later 11:53 lastnode i mean it is a little expansive for our library at the moment 11:53 lastnode right? 11:53 lastnode generally, id want (marc21_simple_bib_frameworks) 11:53 slef or mysql command-line client 11:53 slef Some things you can load the sql in phpmyadmin afterwards, but it depends if the sql contains primary key ids and so on. 11:52 lastnode is there an easy way to import them after? 11:52 lastnode slef: if i dont isntall (marc21_simple_bib_frameworks) 11:47 lastnode slef++ 11:46 slef np. Hope I'm right :) 11:46 lastnode thanks 11:46 lastnode i just dotn want sample patrons (which is another option in itself) 11:46 slef I'd expect it's layouts, templates and so on, yes. 11:45 lastnode for creating cards, right? 11:45 lastnode sample label and patron card ata is probably just themes/profiles 11:45 slef But opening a bug report will help with QA. 11:45 lastnode ok 11:45 slef Or send a patch. Or maybe someone here has time to patch it quickly. 11:45 slef If the description isn't quite right, send a bug report and it should get fixed pretty quickly. 11:44 lastnode ok 11:44 slef so sample_creator_data.sql will show what that data actually is. 11:44 slef I think sample_creator_data is the base of the filename 11:44 slef It means that it is sample label and patron card data :) 11:44 lastnode is what it says 11:44 lastnode (sample_creator_data) 11:44 lastnode Sample Label and Patron Card Data 11:43 slef lastnode: hasn't it got a description under it? 11:43 lastnode what does that mean 11:43 lastnode slef: no im looking for stuff like (sample_creator_data) 11:43 slef marc21 and unimarc are both marc 11:43 lastnode ok 11:43 slef marc21 not marc 11:43 slef lastnode: maybe some are explained more in the manual, but ultimately, you can look at the sql files for the full detail. 11:37 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Sioux Falls, South Dakota is 12.0�C (5:56 AM CDT on September 06, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 30.13 in 1020 hPa (Steady). 11:37 druthb @wunder sioux falls, sd 11:37 lastnode Koha Web Installer . Step 3 11:37 lastnode is tehre a guide taht explains all teh options in koha install stage 3 11:36 miguel marc 11:35 lastnode google failed me, and you explained it in 1 line 11:35 lastnode hdl++ 11:35 hdl unimarc if you are french or european. marc for the rest of the world. 11:35 druthb Funny, how much better the campground wi-fi works when the campground is nearly empty... 11:34 druthb o/ 11:34 lastnode hdl: miguel marc vs unimarc, thoughts? 11:26 lastnode ok 11:26 hdl around but busy. 11:26 hdl how are you miguel? 11:26 lastnode was wondering if someone may be around if i run into any probs 11:26 lastnode im just gonna setup a production environment of koha 11:25 lastnode hi hdl 11:20 miguel hello Henri 11:19 hdl hi miguel 11:19 hdl lastnode: ? 10:48 lastnode anyone around? 08:55 Irma thanks kf_alf and rangi :-) 08:54 Irma oh that's good news so I will call out when I know how much interest there really is. 08:46 rangi but one of our design team might 08:46 rangi no he wouldnt 08:45 Irma I don't think I know Alan 08:45 Irma I wonder if Alan Mc C would be available/interested in writing code for a mobile stylesheet 08:40 kf_afk I think a mobile styleshee as rangi suggested would be a good addition to koha 08:40 Irma do you think it would be nice to offer this? 08:39 kf_afk have not seen a bug yet 08:39 kf_afk I think there was some discussion on the mailing list a whie ago 08:39 Irma requests 08:39 Irma reuests for development 08:39 Irma and 08:39 Irma Mobile capability for Koha 08:38 kf_afk what are you searching for Irma? 08:38 Irma no match! 08:36 Irma for a dev request 08:36 Irma I am having a quick look in Git 08:36 rangi not in any real way 08:35 Irma Has there been much interest in providing Koha with mobile capability from other libraries? 08:34 Irma I see 08:34 rangi because its not device specific 08:33 Irma can you expand on why that would be 08:32 rangi yes, a mobile stylesheet might be better 08:32 Irma thanks for the additional info rangi 08:32 Irma I think it would be great because they have many students and students always have their phones with them (of course not all have Android phone) 08:30 Irma I don't know how important it is to our client to provide Koha with a mobile capability 08:28 Irma I will get back to you ... 08:26 rangi we could do a quote, with a spec 08:26 rangi id have to ask alan 08:25 Irma I think renewals would be useful 08:25 Irma Phase 3 (Something for the future?)Basically all additional functionality depend on Koha API being available (and suitable) for Android client to push information and read formatted response. Mimicking a web-user may not be the right approach here.Show overdue itemsShow fines 08:23 rangi to do what? 08:23 Irma several days work? 08:23 Irma what would be the time involved approx? 08:22 Irma well that should be a suggestion I make aspa in my reply 08:22 rangi unless someone wants to pay us to 08:22 rangi no, no one is working on kiritakikoha 08:22 Irma all good then ... 08:21 rangi ah yep i thought you meant his old one 08:21 Irma this one was uploaded in june 2011 08:21 rangi yes 08:21 Irma http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GbosK2eZlk 08:21 rangi yes you can do that with standard koha 08:20 Irma I thought it shows how he placed a hold on a book 08:20 rangi its just using the barcode scanner that comes with android 08:20 rangi marc osbornes video isnt using kiritaki koha 08:20 Irma sine = since 08:19 Irma Marc Osbone's utube video I found already but I wonder if sine this was written http://code.google.com/p/kiritakikoha/ there is more info re future dev 08:19 rangi cool 08:18 Irma just got an inquiry about Kiritaki Koha 08:17 Irma hi all 08:15 rangi dont worry tho, yahoo will kill it, they do everything else they touch 08:14 rangi pipes does much more than just aggregate 08:14 rangi nope 08:11 slef rangi: doesn't any feed aggregator do the same as pipes? 07:57 Oak so it *is* evening now in nz. cool. 07:56 kf_afk hi rangi 07:55 rangi evening 07:19 Oak hello :) 07:19 wahanui hello, clrh_ 07:19 clrh_ hello 07:10 Oak hello sophie 07:09 sophie_m hi #koha 07:02 reiveune :) 07:02 Oak heya reiveune :) 07:02 reiveune hi 06:59 kf hi julian 06:33 julian hello #koha 06:31 kf hi alex_a :) 06:30 alex_a morning kf 06:29 kf good morning #koha 06:20 alex_a hello Oak 06:18 Oak Bonjour alex_a :) 06:11 wahanui niihau, alex_a 06:11 alex_a hi 05:49 Brooke I'm down for the count,. 05:49 Brooke right schedule is up 05:47 cait time to go - cya 05:47 Oak :) 05:47 Oak later rangi 05:46 rangi ok my stop cyas later 05:44 rangi atarau is usually too busy trying to climb a tree to eat much 05:43 cait :) 05:43 rangi I usually have an italian potato donut and a coffee 05:42 Oak :) 05:42 rangi ahh they are made by bavarians, so probably pretty close 05:41 cait perhaps you should bring him to germany... so he can compare 05:41 * Oak googles lederhosen 05:40 cait hehe 05:34 Brooke if he starts insisting on lederhosen, worry. 05:34 rangi he's allowed to spend 5 at the market thats what he always buys 05:34 Brooke he! 05:34 rangi for 3 saturdays in a row now, kahu has a brezel and a bratwurst for lunch 05:33 rangi oh hey cait 05:31 Brooke welcome back 05:30 rangi back from the bus 05:28 cait hi rangi 05:02 eythian http://i.imgur.com/xRmlZ.jpg 04:59 Oak :) 04:58 Brooke hooray 04:58 rangi http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Category:KohaCon11 04:57 rangi its all yours again 04:57 rangi http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Kohacon2011 04:54 Brooke just lemme know when you're done so I can go back to messin' with it 04:54 Brooke knock yerself out 04:54 rangi right, ill shift it then :) 04:54 Brooke I'm willing to hazard a guess that it's a category and not a page because of all the crap that used to be broken with categories on the wiki 04:53 rangi why is the kohacon11 page a category, not a page, and can i fix it, cos it annoys me 04:49 Brooke damn you wiki autoformat XD 04:28 cait :) 04:28 Oak good one Mr. robin :) 04:27 eythian On the flip side, sleep is for the week. And it's most definitely a weekday. 04:27 Brooke that rule only is reliable for Cait 04:27 Brooke pfft 04:26 Oak no sleep for the awesome. both of you. :) 04:25 eythian heh 04:25 eythian would it do any good? :) 04:25 Brooke Robin won't send you back to bed if you don't try and get me to go to sleep :P 04:25 cait eythian: not trying to send me back to bed? :) 04:24 Brooke 0/ 04:24 cait hi Brooke :) 04:24 Oak uh oh. wrong bracket 04:24 * Brooke hugs oak 04:24 Oak Kia ora Brooke :} 04:24 Brooke kia ora 04:22 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6770] AllowHoldPolicyOverride not working <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6770> 04:22 Oak nice 04:21 eythian well, afternoon. But almost evening. 04:20 Oak ah evening in nz... hm 04:19 cait evening mr robin 04:19 eythian Hello Oak :) 04:19 cait hehe 04:19 Oak Hello Mr. Robin :) 04:19 eythian hi cait 04:18 cait morning #koha 04:18 Oak hello cait :) 04:18 cait hi Oak :) 04:18 * Oak waves 03:28 * druthb sees from the log that bg was lookin' for her. 02:48 huginn bg: druthb was last seen in #koha 2 hours, 6 minutes, and 21 seconds ago: <druthb> o/ 02:48 bg @seen druthb 02:48 bg @seen druthb 02:31 mtj ... and then use a wordpress rss plugin to display those feeds on seperate pages on the website too 02:30 mtj i thought it would be good to add an general list of Koha rss feeds to a page on kc.org 02:27 mtj ah, that works -> http://wp2.kohaaloha.com/?page_id=97 02:16 mtj oops, but no external dns to my page... 02:15 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6488] opachiddenitems not working in master <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6488> 02:14 mtj i've been working on getting some kc.org rss feeds up... 02:10 eythian http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Cxy7J0aZsw <-- also, same band. 02:09 eythian (unrelated, I just like it) 02:09 eythian http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOI4pC69jr8 <-- track for today 02:09 eythian heh 02:05 mtj guys, make sure you claim your chorekraft gold for that one :p 01:55 em probably :s 01:55 eythian I'd find someone who's good with Linux to have a look for you, odds are it'll take them half an hour to figure out. 01:55 em ok, well, im gonna go :( 01:54 em :( 01:54 eythian It's not a one-click install, because that's virtually impossible to do for server software that has to talk to a network. 01:53 em i have never touched apache 01:53 em oh no 01:53 eythian and other things. 01:53 eythian But, you'll need to know how to tweak apache to behave how you want it to. 01:53 em how do i do this? 01:53 em that is good 01:53 eythian it's a way of installing Koha so that it's integrated into the system better. 01:52 em what do they do? 01:52 em i am somewhat comfertable :) 01:52 eythian but it still requires being comfortable around Linux to a reasonable degree. 01:52 em im confused 01:51 wahanui OK, eythian. 01:51 eythian wahanui: packages is <reply>package info is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.4_on_Debian_Squeeze 01:51 em lol 01:51 wahanui eythian: I forgot packages 01:51 eythian wahanui: forget packages 01:51 wahanui packages are so easy to build from any branch that was based on master 01:51 eythian wahanui: packages? 01:50 em how do i do that? -- yes i do have it enabled, just checkd 01:50 eythian do you have zebra enabled in Koha? It is by default, but maybe you've changed it. 01:50 * eythian usually recommends installing from packages, as that magically takes care of it all for you. 01:49 em why is there stuff in nozebrasearches 01:48 em well thats dumb 01:48 eythian search is done by zebra, it won't work if it's not running. 01:48 em :s 01:48 mtj ... after you cool down 01:48 mtj you can read eythian and rangi 's advice, and have another go, later on... 01:48 em will search work if i shut off zebra 01:47 em argggggg 01:47 em ok 01:46 mtj http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/koha/2011-09-06 01:46 mtj em: fyi: heres todays logs... 01:46 em argggggg 01:46 eythian Usually because zebrasrv isn't running, but if it is, then I'm not sure. 01:45 em why would it be broken 01:45 em oh 01:45 eythian crontabs are for updating the index when something changes. 01:44 em someone said something about crontabs once upon atime 01:44 eythian I'm not sure then. 01:44 em and where it says RECORDS EXPORTED: 2 - that is the right number 01:44 em with no errors 01:43 em after re-index 01:43 em still broken 01:43 em ok 01:42 eythian then maybe you need to do the rebuild again, but otherwise it should be working. 01:42 em there is zebrasrv 01:42 em yes 01:42 em just wait 01:41 em oh 01:41 eythian hmm 01:41 eythian zebrazrv? 01:41 em but not zebrasrv 01:41 em there is zebra a bunch of times in red 01:40 eythian <eythian> if you see zebrasrv in there, then it's running, if not, it's not 01:40 eythian <eythian> ps ax|grep zebra 01:40 em i left by accident, it is not there :s 01:39 eythian you can scroll up through the history of the conversation. 01:38 em how do you check again? 01:38 eythian Is the zebrasrv process running? 01:38 eythian that's a bit odd in itself, really. Upgrading shouldn't really touch zebra. 01:37 em like i said, it works before upgrade, then it breaks 01:37 em my town is small 01:37 em that would be hard 01:37 em :( 01:36 eythian you're best of finding a friendly, local, sysadmin to do it. Teaching all the required knowledge on how to diagnose things is impossible in a reasonable time frame via IRC. 01:36 em still broken :( 01:35 em search broken 01:35 em hopefully, testing 01:34 eythian right. So hopefully zebra is running now. 01:34 em emery@koha-serer:~$ 01:34 em then goes back to 01:34 em says Starting Zebra Server 01:34 em asks for password 01:33 em just a sec 01:33 eythian yeah. that thing in that link. 01:33 eythian and what happens when you run 'sudo /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon start'? 01:32 rangi http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/koha/2011-09-05#i_756196 01:32 em /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon 01:32 eythian what do you have? 01:31 em yes 01:31 eythian ? 01:31 eythian do you have an init script in /etc/init.d relating to koha or zebra 01:31 em that is what the other guy said to do 01:31 em oh 01:31 eythian that doesn't start the zebra server. 01:31 eythian that rebuilds your zebra index 01:31 em i fixed the path/to parts 01:31 em sudo -u koha KOHA_CONF=/path/to/koha-conf.xml perl -I /usr/share/koha/lib /path/to/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -x -v -r 01:29 em i will get the code i used, no errors occoured, but search still broken 01:28 eythian what happened when you tried to use the init script to start it? 01:28 em can you help me turn it on now? :D 01:27 em but once it is up, i dont have to touch it again :) 01:27 em no it is not :( 01:27 eythian well, keep in mind that Koha is a server application, trying to set it up without being at all comfortable working with Linux is never going to be easy. 01:25 em that does not help me with my problem though :( 01:24 em thanks 01:24 em where :o 01:24 lastnode http://koha-community.org/documentation/3-4-manual-en/ 01:24 lastnode there are em 01:18 em there needs to be manuals for people like me, stupid people ;) 01:18 em uhh 01:00 em im eating dezzert 01:00 em lunch? 01:00 em oh 00:59 lastnode em: eating lunch. lunching. 00:59 em launchin means what? 00:59 lastnode hang around :) 00:59 lastnode em: eythian is lunching 00:58 em i geuss people left 00:58 em uhh 00:54 em ... 00:50 lastnode eythian: do you run sshd on 22 or a non standard port? 00:50 em can someone help me turn on zebrasrv 00:50 * eythian lunches 00:50 eythian yeah, I installed that too. It's a dangerous place out there :) 00:50 lastnode teh Internet is brutal yo :( 00:50 lastnode my vps has ben up 3 days 00:50 lastnode eythian: thanks, mate. i installed fail2ban last night. i installed it while a japanese ip was hitting me with a bruteforce 00:49 em hey, can someone help me turn on zebrasrv 00:49 eythian lastnode: yep 00:42 lastnode i should be fine, right? 00:42 lastnode mysql listens but on localhost 00:42 lastnode i setup iptables last night and it has blocked everything incoming except 80,8080 and 22 00:41 druthb o/ 00:39 em can someone please email me on how to turn on zebrasrv at email@example.com as i need to go but need to get it fixed asap :o 00:37 em umm, still confused about turning on zebrasrv 00:32 em ok, thanks 00:31 eythian I don't know your setup. You may have an init script in /etc/init.d/ (probably called 'koha') that starts it. 00:31 em if it is not on, how do i turn the zebrasrv on? 00:30 em i dont see zebrasrv, but i see zebra in red 00:29 eythian if you see zebrasrv in there, then it's running, if not, it's not 00:29 eythian ps ax|grep zebra 00:29 em thats what i need to find out 00:29 em after that, my searches broke 00:29 eythian is the zebrasrv process running? 00:29 em i just upgraded koha 00:29 eythian what do you mean "on update"? 00:28 em i think its shut off 00:28 em on update, it stops working 00:28 em server 00:27 eythian which aspect of that, it's not a small question. Do you mean the server, or the reindexing tasks, or having Koha talk to it? 00:26 em i need to know how to turn on zebra 00:26 em ok 00:25 eythian if it's quick, I'm doing other stuff at the same time, and am probably going to have a meeting soon. 00:24 em i'll take that as a no? 00:24 em ... 00:23 em not really a problem, just i need help with code 00:22 em i have another problem 00:22 em are you still here, can i ask you to help me again? 00:21 em worked :D 00:20 em doing sudo make upgrade 00:16 em re-doing 00:15 em ok 00:13 eythian use sudo 00:13 em useradd: cannot lock /etc/passwd 00:13 em Help 00:12 em never mind 00:12 em oh 00:12 em that is just ads ... 00:11 em thanks 00:11 eythian http://lmgtfy.com/?q=adding+a+user+in+linux 00:09 em how do i do that? 00:09 eythian you didn't create a user and group called 'koha' 00:08 em make: *** [set_koha_ownership] Error 1 00:08 em chown: invalid user: 'koha:koha' 00:08 em there was an error :( 00:08 em oh no 00:07 em :D 00:07 em the make test 00:07 em works 00:06 em doing make test 00:03 em finshed installing, re-doing make 00:03 em ignore ^^ 00:03 em that is my fault 00:03 em oh, nevermind 00:03 em also, after make test failed, i cant save any new items :( 00:02 em found :) 00:02 em lol, ok 00:02 eythian libtemplate-perl rather 00:01 em :s 00:00 em could not find any package whos name or description matched "libtemplate-toolkit-perl"