Time Nick Message 00:00 em could not find any package whos name or description matched "libtemplate-toolkit-perl" 00:01 em :s 00:02 eythian libtemplate-perl rather 00:02 em lol, ok 00:02 em found :) 00:03 em also, after make test failed, i cant save any new items :( 00:03 em oh, nevermind 00:03 em that is my fault 00:03 em ignore ^^ 00:03 em finshed installing, re-doing make 00:06 em doing make test 00:07 em works 00:07 em the make test 00:07 em :D 00:08 em oh no 00:08 em there was an error :( 00:08 em chown: invalid user: 'koha:koha' 00:08 em make: *** [set_koha_ownership] Error 1 00:09 eythian you didn't create a user and group called 'koha' 00:09 em how do i do that? 00:11 eythian http://lmgtfy.com/?q=adding+a+user+in+linux 00:11 em thanks 00:12 em that is just ads ... 00:12 em oh 00:12 em never mind 00:13 em Help 00:13 em useradd: cannot lock /etc/passwd 00:13 eythian use sudo 00:15 em ok 00:16 em re-doing 00:20 em doing sudo make upgrade 00:21 em worked :D 00:22 em are you still here, can i ask you to help me again? 00:22 em i have another problem 00:23 em not really a problem, just i need help with code 00:24 em ... 00:24 em i'll take that as a no? 00:25 eythian if it's quick, I'm doing other stuff at the same time, and am probably going to have a meeting soon. 00:26 em ok 00:26 em i need to know how to turn on zebra 00:27 eythian which aspect of that, it's not a small question. Do you mean the server, or the reindexing tasks, or having Koha talk to it? 00:28 em server 00:28 em on update, it stops working 00:28 em i think its shut off 00:29 eythian what do you mean "on update"? 00:29 em i just upgraded koha 00:29 eythian is the zebrasrv process running? 00:29 em after that, my searches broke 00:29 em thats what i need to find out 00:29 eythian ps ax|grep zebra 00:29 eythian if you see zebrasrv in there, then it's running, if not, it's not 00:30 em i dont see zebrasrv, but i see zebra in red 00:31 em if it is not on, how do i turn the zebrasrv on? 00:31 eythian I don't know your setup. You may have an init script in /etc/init.d/ (probably called 'koha') that starts it. 00:32 em ok, thanks 00:37 em umm, still confused about turning on zebrasrv 00:39 em can someone please email me on how to turn on zebrasrv at emery.cairns@gmail.com as i need to go but need to get it fixed asap :o 00:41 druthb o/ 00:42 lastnode i setup iptables last night and it has blocked everything incoming except 80,8080 and 22 00:42 lastnode mysql listens but on localhost 00:42 lastnode i should be fine, right? 00:49 eythian lastnode: yep 00:49 em hey, can someone help me turn on zebrasrv 00:50 lastnode eythian: thanks, mate. i installed fail2ban last night. i installed it while a japanese ip was hitting me with a bruteforce 00:50 lastnode my vps has ben up 3 days 00:50 lastnode teh Internet is brutal yo :( 00:50 eythian yeah, I installed that too. It's a dangerous place out there :) 00:50 * eythian lunches 00:50 em can someone help me turn on zebrasrv 00:50 lastnode eythian: do you run sshd on 22 or a non standard port? 00:54 em ... 00:58 em uhh 00:58 em i geuss people left 00:59 lastnode em: eythian is lunching 00:59 lastnode hang around :) 00:59 em launchin means what? 00:59 lastnode em: eating lunch. lunching. 01:00 em oh 01:00 em lunch? 01:00 em im eating dezzert 01:18 em uhh 01:18 em there needs to be manuals for people like me, stupid people ;) 01:24 lastnode there are em 01:24 lastnode http://koha-community.org/documentation/3-4-manual-en/ 01:24 em where :o 01:24 em thanks 01:25 em that does not help me with my problem though :( 01:27 eythian well, keep in mind that Koha is a server application, trying to set it up without being at all comfortable working with Linux is never going to be easy. 01:27 em no it is not :( 01:27 em but once it is up, i dont have to touch it again :) 01:28 em can you help me turn it on now? :D 01:28 eythian what happened when you tried to use the init script to start it? 01:29 em i will get the code i used, no errors occoured, but search still broken 01:31 em sudo -u koha KOHA_CONF=/path/to/koha-conf.xml perl -I /usr/share/koha/lib /path/to/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -x -v -r 01:31 em i fixed the path/to parts 01:31 eythian that rebuilds your zebra index 01:31 eythian that doesn't start the zebra server. 01:31 em oh 01:31 em that is what the other guy said to do 01:31 eythian do you have an init script in /etc/init.d relating to koha or zebra 01:31 eythian ? 01:31 em yes 01:32 eythian what do you have? 01:32 em /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon 01:32 rangi http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/koha/2011-09-05#i_756196 01:33 eythian and what happens when you run 'sudo /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon start'? 01:33 eythian yeah. that thing in that link. 01:33 em just a sec 01:34 em asks for password 01:34 em says Starting Zebra Server 01:34 em then goes back to 01:34 em emery@koha-serer:~$ 01:34 eythian right. So hopefully zebra is running now. 01:35 em hopefully, testing 01:35 em search broken 01:36 em still broken :( 01:36 eythian you're best of finding a friendly, local, sysadmin to do it. Teaching all the required knowledge on how to diagnose things is impossible in a reasonable time frame via IRC. 01:37 em :( 01:37 em that would be hard 01:37 em my town is small 01:37 em like i said, it works before upgrade, then it breaks 01:38 eythian that's a bit odd in itself, really. Upgrading shouldn't really touch zebra. 01:38 eythian Is the zebrasrv process running? 01:38 em how do you check again? 01:39 eythian you can scroll up through the history of the conversation. 01:40 em i left by accident, it is not there :s 01:40 eythian <eythian> ps ax|grep zebra 01:40 eythian <eythian> if you see zebrasrv in there, then it's running, if not, it's not 01:41 em there is zebra a bunch of times in red 01:41 em but not zebrasrv 01:41 eythian zebrazrv? 01:41 eythian hmm 01:41 em oh 01:42 em just wait 01:42 em yes 01:42 em there is zebrasrv 01:42 eythian then maybe you need to do the rebuild again, but otherwise it should be working. 01:43 em ok 01:43 em still broken 01:43 em after re-index 01:44 em with no errors 01:44 em and where it says RECORDS EXPORTED: 2 - that is the right number 01:44 eythian I'm not sure then. 01:44 em someone said something about crontabs once upon atime 01:45 eythian crontabs are for updating the index when something changes. 01:45 em oh 01:45 em why would it be broken 01:46 eythian Usually because zebrasrv isn't running, but if it is, then I'm not sure. 01:46 em argggggg 01:46 mtj em: fyi: heres todays logs... 01:46 mtj http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/koha/2011-09-06 01:47 em ok 01:47 em argggggg 01:48 em will search work if i shut off zebra 01:48 mtj you can read eythian and rangi 's advice, and have another go, later on... 01:48 mtj ... after you cool down 01:48 em :s 01:48 eythian search is done by zebra, it won't work if it's not running. 01:48 em well thats dumb 01:49 em why is there stuff in nozebrasearches 01:50 * eythian usually recommends installing from packages, as that magically takes care of it all for you. 01:50 eythian do you have zebra enabled in Koha? It is by default, but maybe you've changed it. 01:50 em how do i do that? -- yes i do have it enabled, just checkd 01:51 eythian wahanui: packages? 01:51 wahanui packages are so easy to build from any branch that was based on master 01:51 eythian wahanui: forget packages 01:51 wahanui eythian: I forgot packages 01:51 em lol 01:51 eythian wahanui: packages is <reply>package info is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.4_on_Debian_Squeeze 01:51 wahanui OK, eythian. 01:52 em im confused 01:52 eythian but it still requires being comfortable around Linux to a reasonable degree. 01:52 em i am somewhat comfertable :) 01:52 em what do they do? 01:53 eythian it's a way of installing Koha so that it's integrated into the system better. 01:53 em that is good 01:53 em how do i do this? 01:53 eythian But, you'll need to know how to tweak apache to behave how you want it to. 01:53 eythian and other things. 01:53 em oh no 01:53 em i have never touched apache 01:54 eythian It's not a one-click install, because that's virtually impossible to do for server software that has to talk to a network. 01:54 em :( 01:55 em ok, well, im gonna go :( 01:55 eythian I'd find someone who's good with Linux to have a look for you, odds are it'll take them half an hour to figure out. 01:55 em probably :s 02:05 mtj guys, make sure you claim your chorekraft gold for that one :p 02:09 eythian heh 02:09 eythian http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOI4pC69jr8 <-- track for today 02:09 eythian (unrelated, I just like it) 02:10 eythian http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Cxy7J0aZsw <-- also, same band. 02:14 mtj i've been working on getting some kc.org rss feeds up... 02:15 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6488] opachiddenitems not working in master <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6488> 02:16 mtj oops, but no external dns to my page... 02:27 mtj ah, that works -> http://wp2.kohaaloha.com/?page_id=97 02:30 mtj i thought it would be good to add an general list of Koha rss feeds to a page on kc.org 02:31 mtj ... and then use a wordpress rss plugin to display those feeds on seperate pages on the website too 02:48 bg @seen druthb 02:48 bg @seen druthb 02:48 huginn bg: druthb was last seen in #koha 2 hours, 6 minutes, and 21 seconds ago: <druthb> o/ 03:28 * druthb sees from the log that bg was lookin' for her. 04:18 * Oak waves 04:18 cait hi Oak :) 04:18 Oak hello cait :) 04:18 cait morning #koha 04:19 eythian hi cait 04:19 Oak Hello Mr. Robin :) 04:19 cait hehe 04:19 eythian Hello Oak :) 04:19 cait evening mr robin 04:20 Oak ah evening in nz... hm 04:21 eythian well, afternoon. But almost evening. 04:22 Oak nice 04:22 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6770] AllowHoldPolicyOverride not working <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6770> 04:24 Brooke kia ora 04:24 Oak Kia ora Brooke :} 04:24 * Brooke hugs oak 04:24 Oak uh oh. wrong bracket 04:24 cait hi Brooke :) 04:24 Brooke 0/ 04:25 cait eythian: not trying to send me back to bed? :) 04:25 Brooke Robin won't send you back to bed if you don't try and get me to go to sleep :P 04:25 eythian would it do any good? :) 04:25 eythian heh 04:26 Oak no sleep for the awesome. both of you. :) 04:27 Brooke pfft 04:27 Brooke that rule only is reliable for Cait 04:27 eythian On the flip side, sleep is for the week. And it's most definitely a weekday. 04:28 Oak good one Mr. robin :) 04:28 cait :) 04:49 Brooke damn you wiki autoformat XD 04:53 rangi why is the kohacon11 page a category, not a page, and can i fix it, cos it annoys me 04:54 Brooke I'm willing to hazard a guess that it's a category and not a page because of all the crap that used to be broken with categories on the wiki 04:54 rangi right, ill shift it then :) 04:54 Brooke knock yerself out 04:54 Brooke just lemme know when you're done so I can go back to messin' with it 04:57 rangi http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Kohacon2011 04:57 rangi its all yours again 04:58 rangi http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Category:KohaCon11 04:58 Brooke hooray 04:59 Oak :) 05:02 eythian http://i.imgur.com/xRmlZ.jpg 05:28 cait hi rangi 05:30 rangi back from the bus 05:31 Brooke welcome back 05:33 rangi oh hey cait 05:34 rangi for 3 saturdays in a row now, kahu has a brezel and a bratwurst for lunch 05:34 Brooke he! 05:34 rangi he's allowed to spend 5 at the market thats what he always buys 05:34 Brooke if he starts insisting on lederhosen, worry. 05:40 cait hehe 05:41 * Oak googles lederhosen 05:41 cait perhaps you should bring him to germany... so he can compare 05:42 rangi ahh they are made by bavarians, so probably pretty close 05:42 Oak :) 05:43 rangi I usually have an italian potato donut and a coffee 05:43 cait :) 05:44 rangi atarau is usually too busy trying to climb a tree to eat much 05:46 rangi ok my stop cyas later 05:47 Oak later rangi 05:47 Oak :) 05:47 cait time to go - cya 05:49 Brooke right schedule is up 05:49 Brooke I'm down for the count,. 06:11 alex_a hi 06:11 wahanui niihau, alex_a 06:18 Oak Bonjour alex_a :) 06:20 alex_a hello Oak 06:29 kf good morning #koha 06:30 alex_a morning kf 06:31 kf hi alex_a :) 06:33 julian hello #koha 06:59 kf hi julian 07:02 reiveune hi 07:02 Oak heya reiveune :) 07:02 reiveune :) 07:09 sophie_m hi #koha 07:10 Oak hello sophie 07:19 clrh_ hello 07:19 wahanui hello, clrh_ 07:19 Oak hello :) 07:55 rangi evening 07:56 kf_afk hi rangi 07:57 Oak so it *is* evening now in nz. cool. 08:11 slef rangi: doesn't any feed aggregator do the same as pipes? 08:14 rangi nope 08:14 rangi pipes does much more than just aggregate 08:15 rangi dont worry tho, yahoo will kill it, they do everything else they touch 08:17 Irma hi all 08:18 Irma just got an inquiry about Kiritaki Koha 08:19 rangi cool 08:19 Irma Marc Osbone's utube video I found already but I wonder if sine this was written http://code.google.com/p/kiritakikoha/ there is more info re future dev 08:20 Irma sine = since 08:20 rangi marc osbornes video isnt using kiritaki koha 08:20 rangi its just using the barcode scanner that comes with android 08:20 Irma I thought it shows how he placed a hold on a book 08:21 rangi yes you can do that with standard koha 08:21 Irma http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GbosK2eZlk 08:21 rangi yes 08:21 Irma this one was uploaded in june 2011 08:21 rangi ah yep i thought you meant his old one 08:22 Irma all good then ... 08:22 rangi no, no one is working on kiritakikoha 08:22 rangi unless someone wants to pay us to 08:22 Irma well that should be a suggestion I make aspa in my reply 08:23 Irma what would be the time involved approx? 08:23 Irma several days work? 08:23 rangi to do what? 08:25 Irma Phase 3 (Something for the future?)Basically all additional functionality depend on Koha API being available (and suitable) for Android client to push information and read formatted response. Mimicking a web-user may not be the right approach here.Show overdue itemsShow fines 08:25 Irma I think renewals would be useful 08:26 rangi id have to ask alan 08:26 rangi we could do a quote, with a spec 08:28 Irma I will get back to you ... 08:30 Irma I don't know how important it is to our client to provide Koha with a mobile capability 08:32 Irma I think it would be great because they have many students and students always have their phones with them (of course not all have Android phone) 08:32 Irma thanks for the additional info rangi 08:32 rangi yes, a mobile stylesheet might be better 08:33 Irma can you expand on why that would be 08:34 rangi because its not device specific 08:34 Irma I see 08:35 Irma Has there been much interest in providing Koha with mobile capability from other libraries? 08:36 rangi not in any real way 08:36 Irma I am having a quick look in Git 08:36 Irma for a dev request 08:38 Irma no match! 08:38 kf_afk what are you searching for Irma? 08:39 Irma Mobile capability for Koha 08:39 Irma and 08:39 Irma reuests for development 08:39 Irma requests 08:39 kf_afk I think there was some discussion on the mailing list a whie ago 08:39 kf_afk have not seen a bug yet 08:40 Irma do you think it would be nice to offer this? 08:40 kf_afk I think a mobile styleshee as rangi suggested would be a good addition to koha 08:45 Irma I wonder if Alan Mc C would be available/interested in writing code for a mobile stylesheet 08:45 Irma I don't think I know Alan 08:46 rangi no he wouldnt 08:46 rangi but one of our design team might 08:54 Irma oh that's good news so I will call out when I know how much interest there really is. 08:55 Irma thanks kf_alf and rangi :-) 10:48 lastnode anyone around? 11:19 hdl lastnode: ? 11:19 hdl hi miguel 11:20 miguel hello Henri 11:25 lastnode hi hdl 11:26 lastnode im just gonna setup a production environment of koha 11:26 lastnode was wondering if someone may be around if i run into any probs 11:26 hdl how are you miguel? 11:26 hdl around but busy. 11:26 lastnode ok 11:34 lastnode hdl: miguel marc vs unimarc, thoughts? 11:34 druthb o/ 11:35 druthb Funny, how much better the campground wi-fi works when the campground is nearly empty... 11:35 hdl unimarc if you are french or european. marc for the rest of the world. 11:35 lastnode hdl++ 11:35 lastnode google failed me, and you explained it in 1 line 11:36 miguel marc 11:37 lastnode is tehre a guide taht explains all teh options in koha install stage 3 11:37 lastnode Koha Web Installer . Step 3 11:37 druthb @wunder sioux falls, sd 11:37 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Sioux Falls, South Dakota is 12.0�C (5:56 AM CDT on September 06, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 30.13 in 1020 hPa (Steady). 11:43 slef lastnode: maybe some are explained more in the manual, but ultimately, you can look at the sql files for the full detail. 11:43 slef marc21 not marc 11:43 lastnode ok 11:43 slef marc21 and unimarc are both marc 11:43 lastnode slef: no im looking for stuff like (sample_creator_data) 11:43 lastnode what does that mean 11:43 slef lastnode: hasn't it got a description under it? 11:44 lastnode Sample Label and Patron Card Data 11:44 lastnode (sample_creator_data) 11:44 lastnode is what it says 11:44 slef It means that it is sample label and patron card data :) 11:44 slef I think sample_creator_data is the base of the filename 11:44 slef so sample_creator_data.sql will show what that data actually is. 11:44 lastnode ok 11:45 slef If the description isn't quite right, send a bug report and it should get fixed pretty quickly. 11:45 slef Or send a patch. Or maybe someone here has time to patch it quickly. 11:45 lastnode ok 11:45 slef But opening a bug report will help with QA. 11:45 lastnode sample label and patron card ata is probably just themes/profiles 11:45 lastnode for creating cards, right? 11:46 slef I'd expect it's layouts, templates and so on, yes. 11:46 lastnode i just dotn want sample patrons (which is another option in itself) 11:46 lastnode thanks 11:46 slef np. Hope I'm right :) 11:47 lastnode slef++ 11:52 lastnode slef: if i dont isntall (marc21_simple_bib_frameworks) 11:52 lastnode is there an easy way to import them after? 11:53 slef Some things you can load the sql in phpmyadmin afterwards, but it depends if the sql contains primary key ids and so on. 11:53 slef or mysql command-line client 11:53 lastnode generally, id want (marc21_simple_bib_frameworks) 11:53 lastnode right? 11:53 lastnode i mean it is a little expansive for our library at the moment 11:54 lastnode but i figure it wouldnt hurt to have them lying around for later 11:54 slef "It depends" but I think we usually install them. I'm installing something else, so don't have my koha notes handy today. 11:54 lastnode ok np slef thank you 11:55 slef well, most things you probably want to decide before you start using them in earnest 11:55 lastnode i dont get you 11:55 slef but I think maybe worst case with frameworks is things we'll revert to default framework 11:55 lastnode ok 11:55 lastnode slef: oh, atm we'll be using Fast Add 11:56 lastnode just got what you maent 11:56 slef Well, for example, if you start using something like a branch code, then you change your mind on it, you have to get all books out of that branch before you can delete it and even then I think it's non-trivial. 11:56 lastnode slef: oh right 11:56 lastnode yeah we're doing a 100 book trial 11:56 lastnode first 11:56 lastnode to see sup 11:57 lastnode slef: either way as long as i koha-dump regularly (usign deb packages), i can edit these isntall values later, right? 12:00 slef I don't use the deb packages so I'm not sure. 12:00 lastnode ok 12:00 lastnode slef: you justbackup usign sql dump? 12:01 slef (our hosting is networked cooperatively in various ways) 12:01 slef I think we've mysqldumps and the hot sync/mirror thingy whose name I've forgotten right now 12:02 lastnode slef: do you know waht this means? * SHOW_BCODE - Show barcode on the patron summary screen items listings 12:02 lastnode (patron_atributes) 12:02 lastnode option is - Useful patron atribute types: 12:03 slef I think it makes it optional. Seriously, are you reading the manual? 12:03 slef manual? 12:03 wahanui manual is at http://www.koha-community.org/documentation 12:05 slef although I say that, I can't find that one :) 12:05 lastnode slef: yeah, i have the manual open 12:05 lastnode what you said, yeah 12:06 slef I think it means that if you install patron_atributes, it makes it optional whether patron's barcode is shown on their summary screen 12:06 slef although I don't remember testing that myself 12:06 lastnode patron_attributes here is a plugin? 12:06 slef I thought you were still choosing data files? 12:07 lastnode i dont follow 12:07 lastnode ive setup koha like 15 times now, but i never eralyl figured out what htese do 12:07 lastnode these bits im asking you about 12:07 slef I'm confused. I don't understand how this is a plugin. 12:07 slef I thought you were choosing data files. 12:07 slef Files that get loaded into the Koha database at installation time. 12:07 lastnode oh right, patrno_attributes, when you said "install" you mean select it in tbhis screen 12:08 lastnode gotcha 12:08 lastnode Some basic settings including USD currency, and a sampling of Z39.50 servers. 12:08 slef Heh, bad jargon use by both of us = fail! 12:08 lastnode the sample servers are mentioned here, and in teh last opton too 12:08 slef what's that one called? I'll bring it up in a browser 12:08 lastnode (parameters) 12:09 slef I suspect that's a bad description but I'll check 12:09 lastnode ok 12:09 slef http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=installer/data/mysql/en/optional/parameters.sql;h=84a176b60a2b296ac11662d8f51c71f34413e9ef;hb=HEAD 12:09 lastnode (sample_z3950_servers) is the other one 12:09 slef yeah, no z39.50 servers in there 12:09 slef they're all in sample_z3950_servers 12:09 lastnode haha 12:09 lastnode thanks slef 12:10 * lastnode bookmarks the git repo 12:10 slef there's a simple bug for you to report. http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=installer/data/mysql/en/optional/parameters.txt;h=a10456232158a925799e3e7e26620410944b3850;hb=HEAD is wrong 12:11 lastnode ok 12:12 slef lunchtime... bbl 12:13 lastnode thanks slef! 12:13 lastnode haev a good lunch :) 12:24 oleonard Hi #koha. 12:49 lastnode in koha, the great gatsby is classified in LC as 813/.52 12:49 lastnode still trying to figure out how .52 are arrived at 12:49 oleonard LC catalogers decide. 12:50 oleonard And the library is given the option, via the "/" of whether or not to be that specific in their own classification of the book. 13:02 lastnode oleonard: so / means not-specific? 13:02 coryj Is there a tool/option to "check out" items to users based on a CSV file? We are migrating one of our libraries with a large number of existing checked out items. 13:03 oleonard lastnode: the "/" indicates where the local cataloger could truncate the call number if they choose 13:05 oleonard coryj: I don't know what the best option is, but one is to use the offline circulation data upload tool 13:05 oleonard /cgi-bin/koha/offline_circ/process_koc.pl 13:05 oleonard http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_offline_circulation_file_format 13:11 lastnode we dont have offline data oleonard 13:12 lastnode new library 13:12 oleonard I wasn't talking to you lastnode 13:16 lastnode oh my bad, oleonard 13:34 oleonard Grr... I'm tired of people emailing the same question to the list over and over. 13:37 * kf_away offers oleonard a cookie 14:08 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6190] Custom field removal from patron entry screens <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6190> 14:09 oleonard that's been a tough one apparently. 14:13 jcamins_away How many times does the same message need to get sent? 14:14 jcamins_away Two minutes later, replying to the first one with the exact same text? 14:15 * Oak waves 14:52 wizzyrea mornin peeps 14:53 oleonard Hi wizzyrea 14:55 libsysguy1 morning wizzyrea 14:55 wizzyrea I trust your long holiday treated you well? 14:56 libsysguy1 for the most part...but I fear that i have a Monday tuesday today 14:56 libsysguy1 there is really no escaping monday 14:56 jcamins_away Looks like someone has a case of the Mondays! 14:56 nengard wish i stayed in jamaica instead of coming home 14:56 * jcamins is very impressed with himself for coming up with a cultural reference. 14:56 nengard it's dreary and rainy and my baby girl is sick 14:56 nengard and it's "monday" 14:57 * sekjal had a VERY full weekend, and could use another to help recover from it 14:57 nengard vacation pics for all to see: http://www.flickr.com/photos/nengard/sets/72157627606452296 14:57 wizzyrea hehe 14:57 * oleonard is ready for some work to get over the weekend 14:57 wizzyrea ooh yea and welcome back nengard :) 14:57 nengard :) 14:58 oleonard nengard announces her return with signed-off patches 14:58 nengard yuppers 14:58 kf_away nengard++ sekjal++ :) 14:58 kf_away and time to go for me - distance study deadline is near... 14:59 kf_away bye all 14:59 nengard bye 15:03 reiveune bye 15:14 wizzyrea can someone explain to me the difference between what happens when you do this http://koha-community.org/documentation/3-4-manual-en/?ch=x15097 and when you do a "normal" reindex (sudo -u <kohauser> misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -r) ? 15:16 hdl1 yes. 15:16 hdl1 wizzyrea: -b -a are not working when they are used on the same command line. 15:17 hdl1 And -r is done only when rebuild_zebra (Koha) exports an iso2709 file 15:17 wizzyrea right 15:17 hdl1 when -r 15:18 hdl1 then if Koha exports a file, then it will do a zebraidx init. 15:18 hdl1 and then reindex the whole stuff. 15:18 libsysguy1 ohh hdl1 you are here 15:18 libsysguy1 excellent I have a question for you 15:18 wizzyrea hm 15:18 hdl1 if nothing in file, then it just do nothing. 15:19 hdl1 (It is a bug of the rebuild_zebra.pl imho, but no library complained about that) 15:20 libsysguy1 hdl1: you guys are the ones working with Solr right? 15:20 hdl1 (just me, when I first had the problem.) 15:20 hdl1 libsysguy1: we are. 15:21 libsysguy how much extra horsepower are you guys using over zebra 15:43 jcamins iphone-- # I get that standards are anathema to peole as cool as Apple fans, but the "Experience" would be a lot better if you rendered the page in such a way that it actually fits on the screen. 15:45 lastnode im writing a bash script i hope to run daily across machines 15:45 lastnode basically koha-dump then rsync /var/spool/koha/mysite with another server 15:45 lastnode does that make sense? 15:46 wizzyrea *nod* 15:46 hdl libsysguy: sorry ? 15:46 hdl libsysguy: how much extra horsepower are you guys using over zebra ? 15:47 hdl Why are you asking ? 15:47 wizzyrea probably curious, or trying to make a plan. :) 15:48 coryj_away Thanks oleonard. Sorry for the delayed thanks... was pulled away from my desk for a while. 15:48 hdl libsysguy: I donot understand the meaning of your questions. 15:48 hdl libsysguy: I donot understand the meaning of your question. 15:48 hdl in fact, at the moment, we are only stabilising the solr work. 15:49 hdl And trying to port features we already did into 3.6 3.8. 15:49 hdl libsysguy: at the moment we are willing to help ppl getting zebra into that. 15:50 hdl But we cannot build that from scratch. 15:50 jcamins hdl: libsysguy's question was about how powerful a server you need to run solr. 15:51 hdl jcamins: ah ... this is why I said i did not understand the meaning.... 15:51 hdl It could be understood in many ways. 15:52 oleonard jcamins: Is your complaint about text flow? 15:52 hdl we have one library with 400000+ items with solr being allocated 1G. 15:53 jcamins oleonard: I have a custom mobile stylesheet that changes my menu from being horizontal to being vertical, so that no scrolling is required. 15:53 jcamins It would seem that iPhone will not use the mobile stylesheet. 15:53 jcamins Even though every other mobile browser (with the possible exception of mobile IE, which I don't care about) handles it correctly. 15:55 libsysguy sorry guys i stepped away 15:55 libsysguy *catching up* 15:56 libsysguy hdl what do you mean by 1G...like of Ram or extra Harddisk space? 15:56 oleonard jcamins: Seems unlikely that the iPhone is refusing to use the stylesheet arbitrarily 15:56 hdl 1G RAM. 15:56 libsysguy oh...man that is next to nothing imo 15:57 hdl hard disk space is the same as the DB with zebra. 15:58 jcamins oleonard: probably you have to use a different technique to trick it into using a mobile stylesheet. 16:00 libsysguy hdl sorry for bugging you with questions but im pretty interested in trying out solr when you guys get it ready 16:00 libsysguy so there would be no delay in adding records with solr 16:01 wizzyrea does anyone know, is the patch for apache2 out yet? 16:02 wizzyrea the one that fixes the super-exploit discovered a couple of weeks ago? 16:02 hdl actually, there is an indexing queue we are working on at the moment because on 400000 records, and the way koha is structured... (touching items multiple times in the circulation process) the indexing process would slow down the circulation process. 16:02 hdl Which is not good. 16:03 wizzyrea ^^ very not good 16:03 libsysguy right we'd have the same issue since we have 500000 records 16:03 wizzyrea 500000 bibs? 16:03 libsysguy yup 16:03 wizzyrea cool 16:03 hdl So there will is delay, but it is a deamon which sends records to solr some biblios at once. 16:03 libsysguy or close to it 16:04 hdl it packs biblios and sends them to solr 16:04 libsysguy gotcha 16:04 hdl Therefore, less indexing. 16:04 libsysguy have you worked out the delay time yet? 16:05 libsysguy or is it variable 16:06 hdl libsysguy: it depends on your volume of biblio/items record edition at once. 16:06 libsysguy gotcha 16:07 libsysguy so if we added 22K new ebooks all at once it would be slower? 16:08 hdl it indexes 200 biblio edits in less than 2 mn at the moment but we are indexing 10 by 10 which is a parameter we will raise up to 100. 16:08 hdl But we are experimenting so that we find the best parameters for that at the moment. 16:09 libsysguy ok cool 16:10 hdl I hope we can also master some shards implementation and mergeFactor so that indexing time is reduced. 16:10 libsysguy that would be fantastic...im all for faster indexing 16:15 wizzyrea can someone verify for me -- the buttons on request.pl to reorder/delete holds 16:16 wizzyrea none of them seem to be working, they all seem to try and place the hold again for that person 16:16 wizzyrea instead of reordering the holds 16:16 oleonard I've seen that too wizzyrea, and I thought there was a bug report for it 16:16 wizzyrea i suspect this has something to do with the patch that changed reserves.pl to use borrowernumber instead of cardnumber 16:16 wizzyrea hmm 16:16 wizzyrea i will look thanks owen 16:19 hdl wizzyrea: we fixed that one on master. 16:20 wizzyrea oo, when? 16:20 hdl on our branch. 16:20 hdl Maybe sophie_m could take the patches for that. 16:20 hdl And send them. 16:20 wizzyrea that would be super :D 16:20 oleonard Why haven't they been submitted already? 16:21 oleonard Bug 6691 16:21 wizzyrea i'd sign off on them :) 16:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6691 critical, P5, ---, pianohacker, NEW , Can't place hold even with override on 16:21 oleonard No, not that one. 16:21 oleonard Bug 6687 16:21 wizzyrea no, def not 16:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6687 critical, P5, ---, ian.walls, NEW , cannot move people in the holds queue 16:21 wizzyrea YES that 16:21 hdl oleonard: because we need to rebase /rewrite all the patches. 16:21 hdl because of tt move. 16:22 wizzyrea ooo 16:25 * oleonard didn't realize the bug was that old 16:26 wizzyrea actually, I think this is the 2nd time it has happened 16:26 wizzyrea hdl, I don't think that your patches would help on this, since the thing that broke it was post TT 16:27 wizzyrea but I could be completely misunderstanding. 16:27 hdl wizzyrea: would need to see what is causing that. 16:28 hdl wizzyrea: I definitely think that selenium tests would help. 16:28 hdl (if it is the second time the problem occur, it is one time too much) 16:28 wizzyrea mhm 16:34 * oleonard thought he had tested that holds bug, sees from his comment on the bug that he did...and forgot he had commented. 16:34 wizzyrea I've looked at that before too 16:34 wizzyrea and I also forgot 16:35 wizzyrea hdl: thanks for the selenium idea 16:35 wizzyrea I hadn't ever looked at that before. 16:35 wizzyrea fascinating 16:39 * jcamins crashes LibreOffice. 16:39 jcamins Don't do a Replace All to globally change the font in a file of labels. 16:39 wizzyrea oops 16:51 wizzyrea chris_n about? 16:51 chris_n here 16:52 wizzyrea question on 6841 -- I've backed down the necessary permissions to set the branch from circ to view catalog 16:52 chris_n k 16:52 wizzyrea and I've made the template look for "can user edit catalogue" 16:52 wizzyrea to allow changes only to catalogers 16:52 wizzyrea but I wonder if that's best for all "independent branches" 16:52 wizzyrea libraries 16:52 wahanui libraries are the kings of overcomplication 16:52 wizzyrea *giggle* 16:52 wizzyrea how apt. 16:52 chris_n heh 16:53 chris_n I could see situations where there is non-centralized cataloging where one may not want the catalogers to be able to change their branch 16:53 wizzyrea what do you think? I think in any case, view catalogue is all that is required to change set branch 16:53 * chris_n screams as he sees yet another syspref coming 16:54 wizzyrea no no 16:54 wizzyrea I won't do that to you 16:54 chris_n :-) 16:54 wizzyrea i'm sure there's a solution 16:54 jcamins nengard_lunch: if you notice that the RSS/Atom feed for cpbibliography.com isn't working, could you let me know? 16:54 chris_n wizzyrea: what you've done sounds good to me 16:54 wizzyrea s/is required/all that should be required 16:55 wizzyrea it would certainly fix your problem. Is there another permission that would be better? 16:55 wizzyrea (for the template) 16:55 wizzyrea i'm looking at them and I just don't know 16:56 chris_n no, I think that it makes sense to make it dependent upon catalogue edit permission 16:56 chris_n unless we want to create a permission for the label tool 16:56 wizzyrea it seems logical to me that there would be cases in most independent branches setup that would require changing the set branch sometimes 16:56 wizzyrea from a cataloger's point of view 16:57 wizzyrea what it looked for originally 16:57 wizzyrea was "can user management" 16:57 chris_n sheesh 16:57 * chris_n is really not paying attention 16:57 chris_n sorry 16:57 wizzyrea sok 16:57 chris_n yes 16:58 chris_n I think that's sound reasoning 16:58 * chris_n looks at the permissions a moment 16:58 * wizzyrea is just trying to think of the broader implications of such a change 16:58 wizzyrea it's easy enough to fix. :) 16:59 wizzyrea but *should* it be fixed in the way I'm thinking 16:59 chris_n I'm not sure where else we would put it 17:00 wizzyrea "can set branch" or some nonsense. 17:00 chris_n and I cannot think of a situation in which one would want to prevent the viewing of certain branches catalogs 17:00 wizzyrea k, i'll go ahead and submit it 17:00 chris_n branch's even 17:00 wizzyrea and if they don't like it 17:00 wizzyrea well 17:00 wizzyrea you'll have the patch anyway :) 17:01 wizzyrea but, right after lunch :P 17:01 * chris_n passes wizzyrea some fresh guacamole sauce and chips 17:01 wizzyrea YUM 17:01 wizzyrea thanks! 17:01 chris_n thanks to you 17:24 jcamins nengard: I changed the RSS/Atom feeds for my website. Let me know if you have any problems. 17:24 jcamins nengard: I already told you that, sorry for the repeat. 17:24 * jcamins has a case of the Mondays, too. 17:24 * jcamins corects his to-do list so he doesn't tell nengard a third time. 17:24 nengard i missed it the first time, so glad you repeated it 17:26 jcamins Always glad to belabor the point. :) 17:26 jcamins Whatever the point might be. 17:45 Emery can anyone help me? many people have tried but no-one can find out why, after upgrade to 3.40.40 search breaks, zebra srv is running and everything is fine, i go back to 3.2 and search works !?!?!?!?!? :o so if anyone wants to help it would be apriciated 17:48 libsysguy hmm...im not an upgrade expert but was teh search server running as a daemon? 17:49 Emery yes 17:49 Emery sorry, for slow responce 17:50 libsysguy its ok 17:50 Emery yeah i dont know what happens 17:51 libsysguy you might want to stop the daemon and just move the server script to /etc/init.d 17:51 libsysguy i think the daemon is depricated 17:51 Emery what do you mean? move the script, it is already at /etc/init.d ... 17:52 libsysguy right but its the daemon script no? 17:53 Emery yes it is 17:53 libsysguy right so that is the wrong script to be in there 17:53 Emery oh 17:54 Emery so what am i moving? 17:56 Emery im confused ... 17:56 libsysguy one sec 17:56 Emery ok 17:57 Emery note: when i do perl Makefile.PL this error occours, 17:57 Emery Warning: per 17:57 Emery ignore ^^ 17:58 Emery Warning: prerequisite CGI::Session::Driver::memcached 0.04 not found 17:58 Emery Warning: prerequisite CGI::Session:: Driver::memcached 0.04 not found 17:58 Emery Warning: prerequisite Template 2.22 not found 17:58 libsysguy this should help with the above errors http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/How_to_install_missing_Perl_modules_on_Debian 17:59 Emery ok 17:59 libsysguy i can't seem to remember the name of that file 17:59 Emery ok, i will do that and will be back once im done :D 18:01 Emery installing ... 18:02 libsysguy ok so im pretty sure you ln -s /koha-dev/bin/koha-zebra-ctl.sh to /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon 18:02 Emery do you know if it will erase my records on update? 18:02 libsysguy and then run rc-d update 18:02 Emery ok 18:02 Emery it has not finshed yet 18:02 libsysguy umm have you backed up your db just incase? 18:03 Emery no, but i only have 2 records at the moment, no big deal 18:03 libsysguy it shouldn't but i would most certainly wait until its finished 18:03 libsysguy oh haha 18:03 Emery ok 18:04 Emery it errors unable to locate package 18:04 libsysguy what package 18:05 Emery the one you tolde me to install 18:05 libsysguy I don't think I've told you to install any package 18:05 libsysguy what exactly did you run? 18:05 Emery the link you gave me to install the missing stuf 18:06 libsysguy oh the wiki 18:06 wahanui rumour has it the wiki is http://wiki.koha-community.org 18:06 Emery yea 18:06 Emery it cant find them 18:06 Emery i am on the step where it says 18:06 libsysguy so you did libtemplate-perl? 18:07 libsysguy and libsession-driver-memcached-perl 18:07 Emery no ... ? 18:07 Emery i was fallowing what it said to do 18:07 libsysguy right but keep in mind these are abstract as to fit your pacakges 18:08 libsysguy so foo-bar would refer to your package 18:08 wizzyrea heh 18:08 Emery yeah 18:08 wizzyrea you want to do sudo apt-get install libtemplate-perl 18:08 Emery ok 18:08 wizzyrea and sudo apt-get install libsession-driver-memcached-perl 18:09 wizzyrea then try your makefile again. 18:09 Emery unable to locate package libtemplate-perl 18:10 wizzyrea what OS? 18:10 Emery ubuntu 18:10 Emery 10.10 18:10 libsysguy you can also try cpan install Template 18:10 Emery ok 18:10 wizzyrea sudo cpan install Template 18:11 libsysguy ^^ 18:11 libsysguy my bad 18:11 libsysguy cait :D 18:11 Emery it errors : dont use install , just cpan Template 18:11 cait hi libsysguy 18:11 Emery should i do that? 18:11 wizzyrea sudo cpan -i Template 18:11 cait should I be scared? 18:11 libsysguy i want to schedule a meeting with you and sekjal about notices 18:11 wizzyrea yes. oh, wait. 18:12 wizzyrea you meant about libsysguy. 18:12 wizzyrea >.> 18:12 libsysguy hehe 18:12 wizzyrea nah, prolly not. 18:12 Emery do i want to build the XS Stash module ??? 18:12 libsysguy yes to all 18:12 wizzyrea ^^ 18:12 Emery ok 18:12 libsysguy there will be a lot...hope you are in for some rapid Y pressing 18:13 Emery lol 18:13 Emery Sure! thats always fun :D 18:13 Emery Install -- OK 18:14 Emery no what? re-do perl Makefile.PL 18:14 Emery now what? re-do perl Makefile.PL 18:14 libsysguy after you do that for all the missing packages 18:14 libsysguy so memcached too 18:14 Emery oh, how do i install that 18:14 wizzyrea sudo apt-get install libsession-driver-memcached-perl 18:15 Emery thanks 18:16 Emery Unable To Locate libsession-driver-memcached-perl 18:16 libsysguy then build it with cpan just like you did with template 18:16 Emery ok 18:17 Emery that would be sudo cpan -i libsession-drive..... 18:17 libsysguy replace the - with :: 18:17 Emery ok 18:17 libsysguy and strip the lib 18:17 libsysguy and perl 18:17 Emery ok 18:17 wizzyrea sudo cpan -i session::driver::memcached 18:17 Emery ok 18:17 cait libsysguy: ok, ask me in 15 minutes ;) 18:18 libsysguy haha 18:18 libsysguy will do 18:18 wizzyrea actually 18:18 Emery Command not Found 18:18 wizzyrea that will be sudo cpan -i CGI::session::driver::memcached 18:18 libsysguy hehe oops i missed that one 18:18 Emery ok 18:18 Emery :D 18:19 Emery Command not Found 18:19 libsysguy emery what library do you work for that only has 2 books 18:19 wizzyrea oh bother. one more for the girls in the back. 18:19 wizzyrea sudo cpan -i CGI::Session::Driver::memcached 18:19 Emery lol, We have not finished entering our records yet :p 18:19 libsysguy how many do you have? 18:19 Emery 500 18:20 Emery approx 18:21 Emery Unable To Locate libsession-driver-memcached-perl 18:21 wizzyrea command not found or package not found? I just verified that CGI::Session::Driver::memcached installs 18:21 Emery yes, i just did that, typo :D but , 18:21 Emery Unable To Locate libsession-driver-memcached-perl 18:21 Emery still :s 18:21 wizzyrea if you typed that you typed it wrong. 18:21 libsysguy so you are typing exactly this: udo cpan -i CGI::Session::Driver::memcached 18:21 libsysguy sudo** 18:22 Emery yes, i have done that 18:22 Emery and it worked 18:22 libsysguy ok then that is all you need 18:22 Emery oh 18:22 Emery so i dont do sudo apt-get install ... 18:22 libsysguy nope 18:22 Emery ok 18:22 libsysguy rerun the installer 18:22 Emery ok 18:24 Emery Warning: prerequisite CGI::Session:: Driver::memcached 0.04 not found 18:24 Emery :'( 18:24 libsysguy its cool 18:24 libsysguy with 500 records I doubt your using it 18:25 Emery ok, that is good :D 18:25 Emery so i continue? 18:25 libsysguy yeah you should be able to proceed 18:25 Emery ok 18:25 Emery i have done make 18:25 Emery doing make test now 18:26 libsysguy gotta run for a bit 18:26 Emery yep 18:26 Emery almost done, i hope :D 18:26 Emery RESULT: PASS :D 18:26 Emery sudo make upgrade? 18:27 wizzyrea \o/ 18:27 Emery yes? 18:27 wizzyrea is that what the instructions say? 18:27 Emery umm, i dont know, i think so ... 18:27 Emery i have not looked in awhile 18:27 wizzyrea you know what they say 18:28 wizzyrea give a man a fish and he'll be hungry tomorrow. Teach a man to fish and he'll never go hungry again. 18:28 Emery lol 18:28 wizzyrea go fishing. ;) 18:28 Emery yay :D i love fishing 18:28 Emery ok, i have done that and there is an error :( as fallows 18:28 Emery chown: invalid user: 'koha:koha' 18:29 Emery make *** [set_koha_ownership] Error 1 18:29 wizzyrea do you have a koha user and group? 18:29 Emery i though i did 18:29 Emery maybe not :o 18:30 Emery i will create them 18:30 Emery do i have to re-do perl Makefile.PL after or can i just re-do sudo make upgrade 18:31 wizzyrea ok, first. You should probably be logged in as your Koha user to be doing this 18:32 Emery oh 18:32 Emery sudo -u koha ? 18:32 wizzyrea yep 18:32 Emery ok 18:32 Emery created user and group 18:33 * wizzyrea has no idea what state your permissions are in 18:33 Emery now do i have to re run the Makefile.PL or can i log in as koha and run sudo make upgrade 18:33 Emery that may not be good :o 18:33 wizzyrea I would log in as koha and run the makefile again, but I'm cautious like that 18:33 Emery ok 18:33 Emery will do 18:35 Emery oh no 18:35 Emery Unable to open MakeMaker.tmp Permission denied 18:35 wizzyrea heh. 18:35 Emery :s 18:36 wizzyrea looks like you have a date with the googles. 18:36 Emery :( 18:36 nengard i need some report help - i need a report that shows all the patrons who have email addresses on their account but do not get the hold filled email - here's what I have ... but i'm not sure this is right 18:36 nengard select b.branchcode, b.surname, b.firstname, b.cardnumber, b.email 18:36 nengard from borrowers b WHERE b.borrowernumber NOT IN (SELECT borrowernumber from borrower_message_preferences p where p.message_attribute_id = 4) and b.email is not null order by b.branchcode, b.surname, b.firstname, b.email asc 18:36 Emery wizzyrea, how do i fix this? 18:37 Emery do i give perrmissions to the user koha or ...? 18:38 Emery ... 18:38 wizzyrea http://tinyurl.com/3qy5xmq 18:39 Emery ok 18:39 Emery REally? 18:39 Emery :D thats the second time today 18:39 wizzyrea that's the way we figure out our problems. 18:39 cait_dinner nengard: do you have a little time for it? 18:39 wizzyrea remember that saying about teaching a man to fish? 18:39 Emery i hate google 18:39 Emery yeah yeah 18:39 wizzyrea that's your right. 18:40 Emery i will do that 18:40 cait_dinner nengard: i could try to figure it out in a few minutes 18:40 oleonard Emery: You hate Google, or you hate searching for the answers to your questions? There are other search engines if it's the former. 18:41 wizzyrea more specifically, in those results 18:41 wizzyrea http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.com/Errors-while-installing-test-Koha-td3395866.html 18:42 Emery i just hate searching for awnsers :D 18:42 wizzyrea perhaps you're in the wrong line of work :P 18:42 oleonard :| 18:42 Emery :D ehh, feeling lazy today 18:43 Emery Just like all the suckers who have to go to school today :D 18:43 wizzyrea me too *yawn* 18:43 Emery lol 18:43 * oleonard is feeling lazier by the minute. 18:43 * wizzyrea wanders off to do something productive. 18:43 Emery what time is it where you are? 18:43 Emery its 11:42 am here 18:44 oleonard Productivity time. 18:44 Emery lol 18:44 wizzyrea ^^ 18:44 Emery Hel[p 18:44 Emery i ran 18:44 Emery sudo -u koha make upgrade 18:45 Emery and it still errors but this time it is , Cant write-open blib/man3 ... 18:45 Emery i geuss i will googles it :/ 18:47 Emery google says to do it as root 18:47 Emery but you say to do it as koha 18:47 Emery im confused 18:49 Emery help? 18:51 Emery i geuss i dont get help .. 18:52 Emery :( *sniff* *sniff* 18:54 Emery help? 18:55 Emery ARG 18:55 Emery search is broken 18:59 Emery :'( 19:03 wizzyrea chris_n: bug 6841 19:03 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6841 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, wizzyrea, ASSIGNED , A member with cataloging permissions cannot change branches (when independent branches is set on) 19:03 wizzyrea bbiab 19:03 Emery can you help me now? 19:03 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6841] A member with cataloging permissions cannot change branches (when independent branches is set on) <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6841> 19:04 Emery i have suscessfully installed koha 3.4 but search still broken 19:05 Emery please 19:05 oleonard searching faq? 19:05 wahanui i think searching faq is at http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/searching/ 19:05 Emery i have looked ther 19:05 Emery it does not help 19:06 Emery and my problem is not there 19:07 Emery :( 19:09 Emery plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz 19:09 Emery helpssssssssssssssss 19:12 jwagner Emery, it doesn't look like anyone is available right now who can help you. You might try back later when users in another timezone are online. 19:13 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6390] Basket only visible for librarian who created it <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6390> 19:15 Emery ok 19:15 Emery bye 19:19 cait_dinner nengard++ 19:19 nengard cait++ (for report help) 19:45 pelletiermaxime Is there any doc in the wiki or anywhere on how to run the Test::More suite in t/ ? 19:46 rangi Morning 19:46 pelletiermaxime not sure what I need to do before running the db_dependent tests 19:46 oleonard Hi rangi 19:48 cait_dinner morning rangi 19:50 libsysguy cait_dinner: i forgot to bug you 19:50 libsysguy aww i was hoping bug you would make the bot jump 19:51 cait bug me now 19:51 libsysguy hehe 19:51 rangi perl t/db_dependent/name.t oughta do it 19:51 libsysguy ok poke cait 19:51 cait make the bot jump? 19:51 libsysguy yeah like if you do bug 1234 19:51 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1234 enhancement, P2, ---, paul.poulain, RESOLVED WORKSFORME, Parameter: Bar Code # Prefix for book / patron searching 19:51 libsysguy hehe 19:51 rangi hmm 19:52 pelletiermaxime rangi: really? Ok, must be a problem on my db because I get fk constraints fails :/ 19:52 rangi no change to the syspref .sql for bug 6390 either ... has magnuses patch been pushed so we dont need that? I think even with that still need english eh 19:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6390 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, ef, ASSIGNED , Basket only visible for librarian who created it 19:53 rangi what test pelletiermaxime ? 19:53 pelletiermaxime Members 19:53 libsysguy anyway so between when and when are you cool with meeting 19:53 rangi you could look at jenkins see how it runs them? 19:53 libsysguy sekjal I think prefers after 3 his time 19:53 libsysguy which is after 2 my time 19:53 rangi jenkins.koha-community.org 19:54 rangi im on the bus so hard for me to look 19:54 cait what time is it for younow? 19:54 pelletiermaxime rangi: ok thanks. Trying to figure out how jenkins work hehe 19:54 cait libsysguy: 19:54 libsysguy 2:53 19:54 libsysguy what time is it for you now? 19:55 libsysguy oh almost 10 19:56 cait almot 10 pm 19:56 cait 7 hours 19:56 libsysguy i see...well I have classes kind of randomly throughout the day 19:57 cait evening is better for me - but not too late 19:57 pelletiermaxime rangi: the test adds a member with S as a categorycode. Surely I need to have something in my bd before executing the tests ? 19:57 libsysguy so around 5 or evening like 8 or 9 19:58 cait not later than 10 pm for me 19:58 rangi ah yeah the sample data 19:58 cait for before now your time 19:59 libsysguy ok so im always free at 1 19:59 libsysguy i wonder how that works for sekjal 20:00 sekjal tomorrow at 1pm (Eastern) is the Koha IRC meeting... I imagine that will be going on for at least two hours 20:01 sekjal thursday or friday I'm pretty free midday 20:02 pelletiermaxime hmmm and where can I find that sample data ? 20:02 cait oh yes, tomorrow! 20:02 cait almost forgot about it 20:02 cait the meeting... 20:03 rangi someone should send a reminder now 20:03 cait sekjal: could you look at bug 6537 when you have time? 20:03 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6537 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, magnus, ASSIGNED , Simplified sysprefs for the web installer 20:03 libsysguy thursday would work best for me 20:03 cait if we get that in it will get a lot less work to add new sys prefs 20:04 rangi yeah that would rule 20:05 cait libsysguy: what do you want to achieve with the meeting? 20:05 cait brain storming? 20:05 libsysguy yes basically 20:05 libsysguy just to make sure we have all of our bases covered 20:05 libsysguy and maybe generate some interest 20:06 pelletiermaxime ah, it's in the installer. Never used it before hehe 20:07 cait ok 20:08 cait :) 20:08 cait just let me know when and where 20:08 libsysguy ok so thursday at 1? 20:08 libsysguy i can send out the email? 20:09 rangi send out a reminder for general meeting too while ur at it :) 20:09 libsysguy hehe ok :) 20:10 rangi ok my bus stop bbiab 20:11 cait 1 + 7 = 8 here 20:12 cait that should be ok 20:21 sekjal cait: do you know if the new files for 6537 were generated algorithmically, or manually? 20:21 cait not sure 20:22 cait I think manually perhaps 20:22 cait you only have to do it once 20:22 cait but I don't think we had language specific changes recently 20:23 cait and only en needs to include all files 20:23 cait magnus_away will be back on thursday 20:24 rangi back 20:25 Brooke @later tell Oak A Peck on the Cheek http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0312859/ 20:25 huginn Brooke: The operation succeeded. 20:28 sekjal 6537 passed QA 20:31 rangi w00t w00t 20:31 rangi looks like ive got some pushing to do 20:34 nengard :) 20:36 rangi ohh bug's first patch 20:37 hdl bug 6537 20:37 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6537 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, magnus, ASSIGNED , Simplified sysprefs for the web installer 20:38 rangi libsysguy++ #for the reminder email 20:38 libsysguy welcome 20:39 cait bugs first patch? 20:39 rangi bug 6724 20:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6724 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, brett, ASSIGNED , Holds Ratio does not allow decimals 20:40 cait is his nickname bug? 20:40 rangi yes 20:40 * wizzyrea giggles 20:41 rangi libsysguy: your reward http://soundcloud.com/djbl3nd/loko-mix 20:42 cait :) 20:42 libsysguy i love crazy mixes 20:49 rangi 154 already 20:59 cait good night all 21:00 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6732 : Showing the bibliographic title on the manual invoices line <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e71b4faf789ab872d94c8f20c0c252b5550da2d0> / Updating about file and history doc <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f09e8403119c08861ef1cec466447012b1b2775b> / bug 6724: enable decimals on values greater than 1 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a 21:06 jenkins_koha Starting build 403 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #385 19 j ago) 21:10 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Follow up for 6665 : Fixing the hide_marc pref also <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=34b553d03b96cb3c84ec978f6eea542f38f60de3> / Bug 6665 : TT problem was preventing AdvancedMARCEditor pref from working when catalo... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4363ff6669c92d0fbbd891fa870bd2cb5e021e9e> / Bug 6555 : only 10 lists show in the staff client <http://git.koha-c 21:14 rangi testing 6537 now 21:15 sekjal rangi: cool. gtg. 21:15 sekjal have a good night, #koha 21:15 rangi cya sekjal 21:32 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6537 [SIGNED-OFF] follow-up = removing non specific lines for french unimarc <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=aa239bc430d04583f3197513e89c4a40886d0049> / Bug 6537 - squashed version of the previous 5 commits, signed-off <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6bd38d3eabc79c68cb90193378c69825ddac2a43> 21:51 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #403: STILL UNSTABLE in 45 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/403/ 21:52 jenkins_koha * brett: bug 6724: enable decimals on values greater than 1 21:52 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Updating about file and history doc 21:52 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 6732 : Showing the bibliographic title on the manual invoices line 21:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6724 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, brett, ASSIGNED , Holds Ratio does not allow decimals 21:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6732 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , Missing Title for Manual Invoice 21:52 jenkins_koha Starting build 404 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #385 19 j ago) 22:03 rangi heya danielg1 22:36 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #404: STILL UNSTABLE in 43 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/404/ 22:36 jenkins_koha * colin.campbell: Bug 5605 [ENH] SIP: Add Support for the Fee Paid Message 22:36 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 6555 : only 10 lists show in the staff client 22:36 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5605 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, ASSIGNED , Add Support for SIP Fee Paid Message 22:36 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 6665 : TT problem was preventing AdvancedMARCEditor pref from working when cataloguing 22:36 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Follow up for 6665 : Fixing the hide_marc pref also 22:36 jenkins_koha * magnus: Bug 6537 - squashed version of the previous 5 commits, signed-off 22:36 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Bug 6537 [SIGNED-OFF] follow-up = removing non specific lines for french unimarc 22:36 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6555 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , only 10 lists in pull down when adding from a bib record 22:36 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6665 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, NEW , advancedMARCeditor preference not functioning 22:36 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6537 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, magnus, ASSIGNED , Simplified sysprefs for the web installer 23:28 daniel_g hi 23:28 wahanui hola, daniel_g 23:28 daniel_g good gosh, i just spent a couple hours trying various ways to get here 23:30 daniel_g pidgin, irc2go, work, home. wresting with nicksrv & ident. finally got here via plain old mibbit and a new nick 23:36 rangi heh 23:54 rhcl so much for the mibbit connection....