Time  Nick         Message
23:37 huginn       New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6555] only 10 lists in pull down when adding from a bib record <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6555>
23:13 huginn       New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5459] merging records loses holds from one <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5459>
22:58 eythian      tee hee
22:58 wahanui      Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world.
22:58 eythian      wahanui: germs
22:47 wahanui      which code are you referring to ?
22:47 eythian      sijobl: which code?
22:07 cait         hmmm
21:52 jcamins_away Yay! Open source++
21:52 sijobl       which is not altogether unusual
21:51 sijobl       turns out I was completely wrong on both counts
21:51 sijobl       I was berating rangi for his colleague's inability to make their code available, and licensed correctly
21:51 jcamins_away :D
21:51 jcamins_away Hmmmm.
21:51 sijobl       stray un /msg'd hmm
21:50 cait         first rangi and now sijobl ...
21:50 cait         hmm?
21:41 sijobl       hmm
20:48 rangi        heh
20:47 ibeardslee   http://grooveshark.com/#/s/Things+That+Make+You+Go+Hmmm/48pzFW?src=5  ?
20:42 cait         hmm?
20:42 rangi        hmmm
19:33 cait         morning rangi
19:17 jcamins_away Morning.
19:17 jcamins_away Agreed.
19:17 rangi        and morning
19:15 rangi        seems silly using ubuntu or debian on a livecd and not the packages to me :)
19:15 rangi        we really should do a live cd, built with the packages, then these upgrades would be a lot easier
19:14 rangi        and wont have run the remove items from marc script, and done a complete reindex
19:14 rangi        i suspect he didnt read the UPGRADE part of the INSTALL file, like i said to :)
18:46 em           ok
18:46 jcamins_away Right. That might be a good idea.
18:45 em           bye
18:45 em           will come back on tuesday
18:45 em           hmm, okay
18:44 em           that is here, right?
18:44 jcamins_away You might have more luck on #koha if you are around during business hours, not on a holiday weekend.
18:44 em           then i made 1
18:44 jcamins_away So if you're getting no results, there's another issue, which I don't think I can offer any help with.
18:44 em           i have no records
18:43 em           oh
18:43 jcamins_away The cron job is only needed for *new* records.
18:43 em           ok
18:43 jcamins_away If search is broken, then the problem isn't with cron.
18:42 em           and search still broken
18:42 em           zebra has been re-indexed
18:42 em           i just need to install crontabs
18:41 em           hmm
18:41 em           yep
18:41 jcamins_away Yeah, that's unfortunate.
18:41 em           uhh, $$$ = 0$
18:41 jcamins_away You might want to consider hiring a Koha support vendor- administering Koha does require a base level of comfort with Linux.
18:41 em           hmm
18:37 em           not really, it just tells you what to do, not how
18:37 jcamins_away None of the suggestions in the FAQ I sent you helped?
18:37 em           hmm
18:37 jcamins_away Nor do I.
18:37 em           i know, but i have no idea how to do this
18:36 jcamins_away I always install Koha from scratch, and it just works.
18:36 jcamins_away I'm out of ideas, sorry.
18:36 em           HELP!
18:32 em           it says zebra server already running
18:30 em           ok
18:30 jcamins_away You're on Ubuntu, which is almost the same thing.
18:30 jcamins_away Yes.
18:28 em           should i still read it?
18:28 em           i am not on debian
18:27 jcamins_away It explains all the steps for setting Zebra up.
18:27 jcamins_away Read the file INSTALL.debian.
18:27 em           what about crontabs?
18:27 em           search still broken
18:26 em           i tried again with sudo, it worked
18:26 jcamins_away I have no idea what the error means.
18:26 jcamins_away Hm.
18:26 em           should i go sudo -s
18:25 em           permission denied
18:25 em           could not select database
18:25 em           errcode 109
18:25 jcamins_away What error messages did you get?
18:25 em           when i used perl
18:25 em           ok, it broke
18:24 jcamins_away Don't capitlize anything in the command.
18:24 em           should it be, PERL rebuild_zebra.PL -b -a -r -v   ?
18:23 em           rebuild_zebra.pl
18:23 em           command not found
18:23 em           entering code ...
18:23 em           there
18:22 em           found, going there ...
18:21 em           searching ...
18:21 em           ok, thats what i ment :)
18:20 jcamins_away You'll have to locate rebuild_zebra.pl.
18:20 em           ok
18:20 jcamins_away Just in the terminal.
18:20 jcamins_away rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -r -v
18:20 em           where?
18:20 jcamins_away em: try running the following:
18:20 em
18:19 em           i wouldn't even know where to type it in even if i knew how ... :s
18:19 em           i looked in the manual, and you dont know how confused i am
18:17 em           will he talk to me if i say his name?
18:17 em           lol, k
18:17 cait         or not ignore him, but don't wonder about strange comments :)
18:17 cait         and ignore wahanui  - he is a bot
18:16 em           ok
18:16 jcamins_away ^^ that manual
18:16 wahanui      documentation is at http://koha-community.org/documentation/
18:16 jcamins_away documentation?
18:15 em           i'll take that as a no?
18:15 em           someone intrested in a step by step walk with me?
18:14 em           im confused
18:14 wahanui      somebody said one was readyish, it has had qa and some feedback provided, if you wanted to respond to the questions in that feedback then that branch could be merged
18:14 em           what one?
18:14 em           ok
18:14 cait         it's in the manual :)
18:13 em           ?
18:13 cait         you need to run the rebuild_zebra script with -z as cronjob
18:13 cait         check the install files for zebrasrv and the cronjobs
18:13 cait         ok
18:13 em           yes
18:13 cait         are you using zebra?
18:13 em           i dont know what your talking about
18:13 em           ahhhhhhhhhhhhh
18:12 cait         is zebrasrv running?
18:12 em           i dont think so
18:12 cait         ?
18:12 cait         have you set up your cronjobs=
18:12 cait         there is a job for that
18:12 em           how do i re-index zebra?
18:11 em           oh
18:11 em           h
18:11 em           oj
18:11 em           i have not done anything to zebra, should i?
18:11 jcamins_away ^^ try the suggestions on that page.
18:11 wahanui      i guess searching faq is at http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/searching/
18:11 jcamins_away searching faq?
18:11 jcamins_away Sounds like a problem with Zebra.
18:11 em           it finds it by barcode in check in, but no searches
18:10 em           and in staff client
18:10 em           in opac, it says on all searches, even if the book exists, it says no results found
18:09 em           lem
18:09 em           hey, i got a prob
18:08 em           :( thats poopey
18:08 cait         no, currently it's not possible
18:08 jcamins_away No.
18:08 em           or amazon, etc.
18:07 em           can you add book images manuly, without going through google?
18:06 em           i will, if i get round to it :)
18:05 em           lol, ok
18:05 jcamins_away Better.
18:05 wahanui      bugs are at http://bugs.koha-community.org/
18:05 jcamins_away bugs?
18:05 cait         rofl
18:05 jcamins_away bugs are at http://bugs.koha-community.org/
18:05 wahanui      jcamins_away: I forgot bugs
18:05 jcamins_away wahanui: forget bugs
18:05 wahanui      bugs are everwhere eeek :)
18:05 jcamins_away bugs?
18:04 jcamins_away http://bugs.koha-community.org/
18:03 em           ok, how would i report it?
18:03 jcamins_away That'd probably be best.
18:03 jcamins_away Not sure how to find it... you could report another one, and if anyone finds the old one, they'll mark it as a duplicate.
18:02 em           ok
18:02 jcamins_away Somewhere.
18:02 jcamins_away There's a bug for it.
18:02 jcamins_away I think that may be the default error message.
18:02 cait         that's a bit weird
18:02 cait         hm
18:01 em           YOU HAVE OVER 0.00 in fines, you canot renew online
18:01 em           it says,
18:01 em           if you set it to nothing
18:01 em           ok
18:00 cait         I think you would leave it empty
18:00 cait         but why would you set the amount when you don#t allow renewals in general?
18:00 em           got it now? :D
18:00 cait         oh
17:59 em           even if they cant anyway
17:59 em           and the person on opac goes over ___ in fines, it will say "You cannont renew online because you have more then ___ in fines
17:59 em           if you put the option to disable online renewing via. opac
17:58 em           the other, says If the person goes over ___ in fines, then they cant renew online
17:58 em           1 of them, asks if you can let people renew online via.(opac)
17:57 em           (admin)
17:57 em           there is 2 options
17:57 em           on opac
17:57 em           ok
17:57 cait         not sure i can follow
17:56 em           on opac settings, if you make it NO RENEW on the opac, there is an option if you have it enabbled where if they have more then ____ in fines, they cant renew, even if you have renew on opac turrend off, if they have more then that amount in fines, it will say on there account "You have more then _____ in fines, you can not renew online"
17:55 em           ok
17:55 cait         I am all ears :)
17:55 em           i found a compleate diffrent bug :o
17:54 em           yes it is
17:54 cait         it's ok - but the return thing is web self check I think :)
17:54 em           do you want to here it?
17:54 em           about opac
17:54 em           no
17:53 cait         we are talking about web self check?
17:52 em           or an operator error :o
17:52 em           i also found a bug :o
17:51 em           you just click a button to "Return" your book, ?!?!?!?!?!?!
17:50 em           i thought that was very retarted before
17:50 em           you can make it so people cant return books on self checkout
17:50 em           postive, alot :)
17:49 cait         I hope positive :)
17:49 cait         positive or negative?
17:49 em           especily in the opac
17:49 em           alot has changed since i last used koha
17:49 em           oh
17:49 cait         i think that's what the payment section is for you are talking about :)
17:48 cait         they give you money for it
17:48 jcamins_away It's completely free. I thought you meant running a server on Amazon.
17:48 cait         if people follow your links and buy books
17:48 cait         you can get money from it
17:48 jcamins_away I misunderstood your question.
17:48 cait         hehe
17:48 em           because there is a payment section on aws.amazon .com
17:48 jcamins_away Listen to cait.
17:48 jcamins_away Never mind.
17:48 jcamins_away If you're using EC2, you'll have to pay whatever the hosting fees are.
17:48 em           ok
17:47 cait         amazon and google content are free, but you have to register at amazon
17:47 cait         no
17:47 em           if i use aws.amazon.com for images, does it cost me money?
17:46 em           another question
17:46 em           lol, true
17:46 jcamins_away em: I mean, if you had been on at a different time, someone other than me would have asked you.
17:46 em           yeah, but i didn't :D
17:45 jcamins_away Usually people on #koha remember to check that you're using Koha and not LibLime's software.
17:45 cait         we can't influence the content that is displayed at koha.org domain
17:45 cait         the links in this documentaiton should be right
17:45 wahanui      hmmm... documentation is at http://koha-community.org/documentation/
17:45 cait         documentation?
17:44 em           koha should make note that liblme is not apart of koha, as i thought because liblime had 4.2 , it was better, but i was reading instrucintions to download from koha's manual :O
17:42 em           :D
17:42 jcamins_away The Koha project is still very active developing Koha, though, and that's the important thing. :)
17:41 em           thats sad
17:41 jcamins_away Yes they are.
17:41 em           they are abusing the open source part
17:41 em           wow
17:41 em           lol
17:40 jcamins_away Right.
17:40 jcamins_away Then they changed the name from "Harley" to "LibLime Koha 4.2," I guess because "Koha" is an awesome name, and "Harley" makes people think of motorcycles. ;)
17:40 em           ah, so they copyed the code an changed some things, and make money from support?
17:39 jcamins_away That's what they called Harley.
17:39 jcamins_away At some point, they "forked" the project, and started working on their own version of the software.
17:39 jcamins_away LibLime is one company that used to support the software created by the Koha project.
17:38 em           oh, liblime isn't?
17:38 jcamins_away Koha is an open source project.
17:38 jcamins_away There's Koha, and there's LibLime's software.
17:38 jcamins_away There isn't.
17:36 em           question, why is there 2 koha's ?
17:34 em           watch this brake :D, with my luck it will :D
17:34 em           i am on the web installer paret :)
17:33 em           yes
17:33 jcamins_away Good!
17:33 em           well, i got it to work now :)
17:33 jcamins_away Ah, yeah, that was going to be my next suggestion, when I was back at a computer.
17:32 em           they are all in the koha-conf.xml file , i dont know where it is, you just search
17:32 em           ok
17:32 jcamins_away em: yeah, that would be helpful to know, since I don't use the livecd.
17:31 jcamins_away Sorry about that. I figured you meant Koha 3.4.
17:31 em           i can tell you how to find your passwords if you want ?
17:31 em           lol, thats okay :), also, incase you need to help future people....
17:31 jcamins_away em: oops. If I'd realized you had downloaded the LibLime version, I would've told you where to get Koha.
17:31 cait         em: 4.2?
17:30 em           i get it work :D
17:30 em           :D
17:17 em           have fun
17:17 * rangi      goes back to bed
17:17 em           ok
17:17 rangi        but read the INSTALL file that comes with it, especially the upgrade section
17:17 em           ok
17:17 em           o
17:16 rangi        no, i am going back to sleep, it is 5am
17:16 em           can you stay till i get koha?
17:16 em           ok
17:16 rangi        no its not
17:16 em           what is the diffrence? is koha liblime better?
17:15 em           hmm,
17:15 rangi        if you want koha, then yes :)
17:15 rangi        that is their fork, its over 2 years worth of differences
17:15 em           ok, should i download koha then?
17:15 em           oh
17:14 rangi        http://koha-community.org/
17:14 rangi        yes, thats not koha, we cant help you with that here
17:14 em           i got the liblime one
17:14 rangi        the latest version of koha is 3.4.4
17:14 em           it says something like table does not exist at ...
17:14 rangi        thats not koha
17:14 em           just a sec
17:14 em           4.2
17:14 rangi        what version of koha are u installing?
17:13 em           when i do make test
17:13 em           ok
17:13 rangi        what with em? we cant read minds
17:12 em           i need help
17:11 em           really bad
17:11 em           i need help
17:10 em           Hello
15:35 wahanui      :)
15:35 cait         wahanui botsnack cookie
15:34 lastnode     nice
15:34 cait         you can add facts with is also / are also
15:34 cait         he learns with is/are
15:34 cait         :)
15:34 wahanui      rumour has it lastnode is an english teacher from sri lanka
15:34 cait         lastnode?
15:34 cait         lastnode is an english teacher from sri lanka
15:34 lastnode     yes
15:33 cait         you are an english teacher from sri lanka, right?
15:33 cait         hehe
15:33 lastnode     lol
15:33 wahanui      well, cait is kf or a programmer or really sweet or a source of great chocolate or the purveyor of an infinite supply of virtual cookies or not sure we need the page(s)... but that might just be me
15:33 lastnode     cait?
15:33 wahanui      I LIKE ALMONDS! HAVE SOME NUTS!
15:33 cait         rangi?
15:33 cait         ah, has no info about you
15:32 cait         lastnode?
15:32 cait         he reacts to his name and question marks
15:32 lastnode     it spoke to me first, to be fair
15:32 lastnode     is it sentient?
15:32 lastnode     please ignore me
15:32 lastnode     yeah ive been told thatbefore
15:32 cait         don't get confused by him
15:31 lastnode     doh
15:31 cait         lastnode: wahanui is our bot :)
15:31 wahanui      lastnode: huh?
15:31 lastnode     wahanui: didn't follow you, mate
15:30 lastnode     the #TransferLog and #Rewritelog are both commented out
15:30 lastnode     but only intranet-error.log and opac-error.log
15:30 wahanui      Hmm.  No matches for that, lastnode.
15:30 lastnode     cait: yes there are logs in /var/log/koha/sitename/
15:29 cait         for a dev installation it's koha-dev/var/logs/
15:29 cait         not sue about the packages setup
15:29 cait         too
15:29 cait         there are logs under var/logs to
15:22 lastnode     are they being written somewhere else and I just cant find it?
15:21 lastnode     i just noticed that koha hits werent being written to /etc/apache2/access.log
15:21 lastnode     also, technical question - in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/mysitname i see #TransferLog and #RewriteLog both commented out (for OPAC and Intranet). if i want access log i assume i have to uncomment #TransferLog on both?
15:11 lastnode     yes, id be sure to do that
15:11 lastnode     i was thinking more like hi, this is me, this is my planned setup. is my plan feasible/robust, am i safe?
15:10 cait         make sure you include information about what version you are planning to use and hardware and such - make it easy for people to answer :)
15:10 lastnode     ok
15:10 cait         a long list of questions might be a bit difficult to answer
15:10 cait         perhaps you want to ask questions about different things in more than one mail
15:09 cait         sounds ok to me
15:08 lastnode     if im mailing koha@lists.katipo (koha general), is it ok if I introduce myself and send a list of questions i have regarding an upcoming deployment of koha?
11:22 cait         :)
11:18 rangi        yup
11:15 cait         I would think
11:15 cait         we are doing pretty good
11:08 rangi        59 in 2008
11:07 cait         stats like that are great :)
11:06 cait         whohoo :)
11:06 rangi        63 ppl contributed in 2009, 67 in 2010, and already 78 in 2011
11:05 cait         :)
11:05 rangi        yup
11:04 cait         going up fast
11:04 cait         contributors?
11:04 cait         oh
11:04 cait         hm?
11:01 rangi        153 now
11:01 cait         hi rangi :)
11:01 rangi        hi cait
10:44 cait         hi #koha
09:34 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4877 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, magnus, NEW , koha-* scripts have no manual pages
09:34 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6516 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, magnus, ASSIGNED , koha-create makes assumptions about borrowernumber of staff user
09:34 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Updating history and about file
09:34 jenkins_koha * robin: Bug 4877 [ENH] - [SIGNED-OFF] more man page improvements
09:34 jenkins_koha * magnus: Bug 4877 [ENH] - Update man page for koha-create
09:34 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6722 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, ASSIGNED , build-git-snapshot output doesn't show up on the screen
09:34 jenkins_koha * magnus: Bug 6516 - Make borrowernumber of staff user configurable in koha-create
09:34 jenkins_koha * robin: Bug 6722: [SIGNED-OFF] Cause build output to appear on the screen
09:34 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #402: STILL UNSTABLE in 43 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/402/
08:51 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Updating history and about file <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9e9326671426dbd41384a70d7e59c27632c890a3>
08:51 jenkins_koha Starting build 402 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #385 16 j ago)
08:51 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6121 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , waitingreserves: branchname instead of branch code
08:50 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Bug 6121: follow-up = using overloo instead of reserveloo
08:50 jenkins_koha * christophe.croullebois: Bug 6121: Holds awaiting pickup
08:50 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #401: STILL UNSTABLE in 44 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/401/
08:31 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 4877 [ENH] - [SIGNED-OFF] more man page improvements <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6534b5cf29ea044f405af976447fe67262780a0d> / Bug 4877 [ENH] - Update man page for koha-create <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1c6cdaf162591892cc8a4318044482563fe47bdc> / Bug 6516 - Make borrowernumber of staff user configurable in koha-create <http://git.koha-community.org
08:21 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6722: [SIGNED-OFF] Cause build output to appear on the screen <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a57b692a60947569e57b26862c17d517bf461128>
08:09 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6121: follow-up = using overloo instead of reserveloo <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f6d3cb05dde6f7e8e9f25a1c4c547e414bbf2d76> / Bug 6121: Holds awaiting pickup <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b2138a7ec64dead316286df4a822bf89d051f4cb>
08:06 jenkins_koha Starting build 401 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #385 16 j ago)
07:13 rangi        no wonder emery was having problems there is no koha 4.something
04:29 wahanui      wish i knew, brooke
04:29 Brooke       wahanui butter?
01:45 lastnode     #koha
01:45 lastnode     hi koha
01:05 Emery        it says STATUS FAILED
01:05 Emery        then make test
01:05 Emery        when i go make
01:05 Emery        i need help installing koha, from 3. something to 4. something
01:05 Emery        ok
01:03 Soupermanito ask your question, if someone knows they will probably answer
01:03 Soupermanito oh this is not freenode XD
01:03 Soupermanito !anyone
00:55 Emery        Hello?
00:55 Emery        Anyone can help me?
00:48 Emery        Hello?
00:47 Emery        Anyone can help me?