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23:28 druthb hi, rangi!
23:28 rangi heya druthb
22:34 rangi heh
22:14 talljoy lol
22:14 talljoy but, I shall soldier on.
22:12 talljoy rejection hurts.....:'(
22:12 rangi https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Greylisting
22:11 rangi :)
22:11 rangi purgatory
22:11 rangi its like that
22:11 talljoy ;-)
22:11 talljoy charged.
22:11 talljoy like being arrested and not charge.
22:11 talljoy greylisted.....sounds so much more ominous than blacklisted
22:09 rangi i know katipo used to run greylisting, so it may take a while for it to get through if its the first one you have sent from that address
22:07 talljoy i'm trying to login to see my options and I can't remember my password and it's not sending it to me either.
22:07 rangi its not being held for moderation at least
22:06 rangi hmm dont see it
22:06 talljoy main one
22:06 rangi the main one, or koha-devel ?
22:06 talljoy koha community
22:06 rangi talljoy: which mailing list?
22:06 rangi :)
22:06 rangi http://improveverywhere.com/2011/08/22/say-something-nice/
22:05 rangi in the meantime you can watch the new improv anywhere
22:05 rangi hmm lemme see if it got held
22:03 aarkerio I see in some pages ISBN-10 and ISBN-13, why?
22:03 talljoy sidenote: I answered an email on the listserv and it appears to have gotten 'lost', i.e. my reply did not get sent to the list and is not in the archive for that message.
22:01 rangi oh hey, did anyone else read kmkales email about kohacon, with the papers in it?
22:01 rangi or the relais one.. whatever thats called
22:00 wizzyrea it could replace something like AGent
22:00 rangi :)
22:00 rangi wouldnt that be awesome
22:00 rhcl so does FulfILLment replace OCLC?
21:51 rangi yeah its really interesting
21:51 rhcl ah, yes, I've read up on freedombox previously. I need to keep track of that project
21:50 rangi :)
21:50 rangi thats all ive got
21:50 rangi e
21:50 rangi stuff to keep our kids fre
21:49 rangi https://www.libravatar.org/ and https://www.freedomboxfoundation.org/
21:49 bg surprised I didn't get booted for that one ;)
21:49 rhcl freedombox
21:49 rangi and freedombox
21:49 rhcl can do. libravatar
21:49 bg ok I'm back to my hole
21:49 rangi mention libravatar
21:48 bg HA
21:48 bg everyone should switch to microsoft
21:48 rhcl wish I had a classy polo style Koha shirt
21:48 rhcl any particular propaganda/evangelism people want to spread besides the usual?
21:47 rangi ah not me then ;)
21:47 rhcl most grants are cost share, typically 75% - 25%, but this one was 100%
21:46 rhcl St. Louis, Missouri Sept 30 - Oct 2
21:45 rangi when/where is it?
21:45 rhcl wish I had cohorts going w/ though. hint hint
21:45 libsysguy excellent
21:44 rangi sweet
21:44 rhcl hot diggidy dog. I'm going to LITA, got my grant $$.
21:42 rangi http://soundcloud.com/a-skillz/abc-a-skillz-remix <-- for you libsysguy
21:40 talljoy i'm feeling thirsty
21:40 talljoy it's almost happy hour here in Texas.
21:37 * wizzyrea saves the knock knock jokes for tomorrow
21:37 libsysguy boo
21:37 libsysguy and its friday there too
21:37 wizzyrea hrmph.
21:37 libsysguy dang it rangi
21:37 rangi get to work
21:37 rangi slackers
21:37 libsysguy CDT ftw
21:37 rangi 9.30am
21:37 wizzyrea for you, sucka
21:37 bg ah it's only 2:30
21:37 wizzyrea oo, identify vs register.
21:36 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #23: "<gmcharlt> /msg munin register nick password" (added by wizzyrea_ at 04:25 PM, August 06, 2009)
21:36 wizzyrea @quote get 23
21:36 wizzyrea interesting that it would fall on a 3
21:36 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #73: "<chris_n> owen: try /msg munin identify nick password" (added by owen at 12:38 PM, April 29, 2010)
21:36 wizzyrea @quote random
21:36 wizzyrea it's 4:30 CDT, we start getting kooky.
21:36 libsysguy hehe
21:36 wahanui well, libsysguy is Koha's hottest developer or partying with swedes on his deck
21:36 libsysguy libsysguy?
21:35 libsysguy that is a good one
21:35 wizzyrea lol. that's a good one.
21:35 huginn libsysguy: Quote #142: "Pianohacker: hrm. What's the plural of ILS again? Rangi: ILSESESESESESES" (added by wizzyrea at 08:54 PM, June 08, 2011)
21:35 libsysguy @quote random
21:35 libsysguy oh oh let me try
21:35 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #151: "<seneca> you guys are my heroes" (added by wizzyrea at 07:41 PM, August 31, 2011)
21:35 wizzyrea @quote random
21:34 wizzyrea his spirit will never be broken!
21:34 libsysguy i was afraid id break huginn
21:34 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn.
21:34 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #62: "<fallor> is this a known thingy?" (added by gmcharlt at 01:18 PM, February 26, 2010)
21:34 wizzyrea @quote random
21:34 libsysguy phew
21:34 huginn libsysguy: The operation succeeded.
21:34 libsysguy @later tell sekjal will you look over http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Notifications_RFC and let me know when would be a good time to schedule an IRC meeting?
21:33 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #141: "library_systems_guy: w00t I'm officially part of something cool :)" (added by wizzyrea at 04:18 PM, June 03, 2011)
21:33 wizzyrea @quote random
21:33 wizzyrea :)
21:33 libsysguy oops
21:33 huginn wizzyrea: (later tell <nick> <text>) -- Tells <nick> <text> the next time <nick> is in seen. <nick> can contain wildcard characters, and the first matching nick will be given the note.
21:33 wizzyrea @later tell
21:33 talljoy mmmmmmm.
21:33 huginn libsysguy: I've exhausted my database of quotes
21:33 libsysguy @later sekjal will you look over http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Notifications_RFC and let me know when would be a good time to schedule an IRC meeting?
21:33 wizzyrea talljoy's cookin!
21:32 wizzyrea yum dinner.
21:32 rangi make mine a double helping
21:32 wizzyrea you can also do it in a /msg to huginn
21:32 rangi cool
21:32 talljoy that's the plan for tonight while dinner is cooking
21:32 huginn wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.
21:32 wizzyrea @later tell whoever what you want to tell them
21:32 rangi you want both indexes up to date
21:32 talljoy i will
21:31 rangi you have reindexed your biblios too eh?
21:31 talljoy awesome. thx
21:31 libsysguy wizzyrea how do you do a "next time x comes on the irc send them this"
21:31 rangi no x for -a
21:31 talljoy no x?
21:31 talljoy best options for bibs? -a -r -x -v?
21:31 rangi yes
21:31 talljoy do i need to worry about reindexing before running that?
21:30 rangi misc/link_bibs_to_authorities.pl
21:30 talljoy comfy for data.
21:30 talljoy i promise not to blow up client's production system with it.
21:30 wizzyrea "comfy"
21:30 talljoy i have a comfy test environment to run it in.
21:30 talljoy i need to try it.
21:30 rangi yeah, i have about 70% success with it
21:30 wizzyrea go cait go!
21:30 talljoy lol
21:30 cait ok, that's a good moment to leave
21:30 talljoy yeah.....
21:30 rangi i dont trust that thing
21:30 talljoy that i hear works sometimes and sometimes not....
21:30 rangi oh that thing
21:29 talljoy yes, it did import like a champ. what is the script that links authorities to bibs?
21:29 rangi i missed, did that work talljoy ?
21:29 rangi oh so
21:29 cait hehe
21:29 wizzyrea nom nom nom
21:29 cait can someone kick me? so hard to leave
21:29 talljoy crunchy good
21:29 talljoy I eat me sum data for breakfast
21:29 cait :)
21:29 libsysguy gotcha
21:29 libsysguy you mean a bullet point
21:29 libsysguy ohh
21:29 wizzyrea lol
21:28 talljoy LOL
21:28 libsysguy sorry cait i was afk...what does a point do?
21:28 wahanui I CRUNCH DATA
21:28 cait talljoy?
21:28 wahanui rumour has it kf is cait or really, really sweet. or <reply>she gives me memory loss
21:28 wizzyrea kf?
21:28 wahanui cait is probably kf or a programmer or really sweet or a source of great chocolate or the purveyor of an infinite supply of virtual cookies or not sure we need the page(s)... but that might just be me
21:28 talljoy cait?
21:28 cait !
21:28 cait wizzyrea?
21:28 * wizzyrea nods
21:28 wahanui I LIKE BREAKFAST BURRITOS AND I LOVE BASEBALL
21:28 wizzyrea bg?
21:27 wahanui I LIKE ALMONDS! HAVE SOME NUTS!
21:27 wizzyrea rangi?
21:25 wahanui I LIKE SPACE!
21:25 bg NateC?
21:25 yhager I should really add a startup script though. (I am using the Archlinux package I built myself..)
21:25 wizzyrea yw :)
21:25 yhager wizzyrea: found it, thanks
21:24 wizzyrea how to do that
21:24 wizzyrea in your koha directory
21:24 wizzyrea yhager it should be in the install.debian file
21:23 yhager cait: run: ps auwx|grep zebra
21:23 cait getting late here - good night all :)
21:23 cait can someone else perhaps? not sure how to do it
21:22 yhager cait: can you just tell me how to run it for now, I'll build the startup script later?
21:22 cait i think you have to put it there during installation
21:21 cait hm
21:21 yhager cait: no such ini file here
21:20 cait /etc/init.d/koha-zebra... something start
21:20 yhager I rebooted my machine and now zebrasrv is not running, and I forgot the command line. Can anyone point me to where to find it?
21:17 cait libsysguy: i added one point to your rfc
21:16 aarkerio no, is not in Congress Library
21:14 cait searching by title or isbn
21:14 cait I think I would try getting it from a z39.50 server
21:13 aarkerio what is the best option?
21:13 aarkerio and I see google gives the option to "Export Citation" in three formats: Bibtex, Endnote, and RefMaN
21:12 aarkerio http://books.google.com/books/about/Cirug%C3%ADa_del_tracto_gastrointestinal.html?id=uvvmAAAACAAJ
21:12 aarkerio I have this book:
21:11 cait you have to convert it to marc
21:11 cait hm you can#t currently
21:11 aarkerio hi! If I have a Bibtex file, How can I import it in Koha?
21:11 wizzyrea the headings made no sense
21:11 wizzyrea me
21:11 wizzyrea it was just bugging m
21:11 cait brainf**?
21:10 wizzyrea it's functionally the same
21:10 cait oh shiny!
21:10 libsysguy reminds me of that programming language you write in white space
21:10 wahanui well, version control using git is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Version_Control_Using_Git
21:10 wizzyrea version control using git?
21:10 wizzyrea i did a bit of wording cleanup on
21:10 * Agent_Dani gives cait a shiny thing to distract.
21:10 wizzyrea mhm
21:10 cait or even space space
21:10 wizzyrea ^^
21:10 cait yep, but it's space * in dokuwiki
21:10 libsysguy ** for more indentions
21:10 libsysguy hehe
21:09 wizzyrea :P
21:09 wizzyrea # for numbered
21:09 wizzyrea * for unordered list
21:09 cait I got distracted :)
21:09 libsysguy im just a pretty quick typist
21:09 libsysguy fwiw i had to look it up too
21:09 libsysguy aww im sorry
21:09 cait now you took my evening fun away
21:09 libsysguy or was that you
21:09 cait oh
21:09 libsysguy oh haha i already cleaned it up
21:09 cait again
21:09 cait had to look up how to do bullet lists...
21:09 cait libsysguy: I am in there already
21:09 libsysguy got it formatted...kind of
21:08 cait oh
21:08 libsysguy cait: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Notifications_RFC
21:08 * libsysguy is dating a Swede who makes him not eat sweets
21:08 * cait puts a bowl of cookies in the middle of #koha
21:08 libsysguy most excellent
21:08 Agent_Dani Mmm, cookies
21:07 cait virtual cookies, practically no calories ;)
21:07 * libsysguy loves cookies
21:06 wizzyrea she also has cookies.
21:06 * cait sends libsysguy a cookie
21:06 libsysguy haha
21:06 cait have to look up everything
21:06 cait I will never get the syntax of that
21:06 wizzyrea see :)
21:05 cait not as long as we are using mediawiki
21:05 cait no never
21:05 cait oh
21:05 * libsysguy sobs quietly
21:05 wizzyrea cait is gentle and sweet.
21:05 * wizzyrea pats libsysguy
21:05 libsysguy ^^
21:05 wizzyrea I think he's afraid that you'll make fun of him for some self-perceived weakness in his wiki skills
21:04 libsysguy the wiki rfc page
21:04 cait make fun about ?
21:04 libsysguy i see the fines script
21:04 cait libsysguy: do you see the way fines are calculated as part of the notification system?
21:04 libsysguy eek cait don't make fun
21:04 rangi hilongo: you'd need to do it with a systemprefernce, so you could upstream it, otherwise youd have to keep remaking the change
21:03 cait going to take a look at it now
21:03 cait but perhaps cleaning up the wiki page would be a good start too
21:03 cait we could have an irc meeting
21:03 rangi libsysguy: call a meeting time on the mailing list, say 2pm such and such on irc to talk about blah
21:02 libsysguy with a distributed group
21:02 hilongo so it should be activated upon saving the record
21:02 libsysguy I just don't know how to meet about it...first timer on big project development
21:02 rangi youd have to hack at the save code then
21:02 rangi true good point
21:02 libsysguy cait we are too
21:02 hilongo yeah .. I thought that ... but when you create a biblio... there is no biblionumber to assign yet...
21:01 rangi you could write a plugin, like we have for leader and 007 etc
21:00 * wizzyrea nods
21:00 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011)
21:00 wizzyrea @quote get 123
21:00 hilongo Is there a way to autofill a MARC field upon saving the record? Explain: We would like to autogenerate the 001 field's value with the biblionumber
21:00 wizzyrea east coast quittin' time
21:00 wizzyrea lulz
20:59 rangi larry didnt want to hear it
20:58 hilongo I have a small question ...
20:58 hilongo how's the channel doing ;)
20:57 rangi hiya hilongo
20:56 hilongo Hello #koha :)
20:56 sekjal okay, gtg. probably back later
20:55 talljoy thanks!
20:55 talljoy rangi: it likes that much better. it is chugging along through the file now.
20:54 talljoy ok...let me fire that up.
20:54 wizzyrea :(
20:54 cait libsysguy: I am interested in talking about the notification rfc - I have lots of complaints about the way thinks are currently
20:54 sekjal laughter is a ways off
20:54 * sekjal is trying to do a serials migration when there is no reliable mapping from old biblio ID to new
20:53 rangi LC-card-number,010
20:53 wizzyrea did you laugh? tell me you laughed.
20:53 rangi try
20:53 rangi looks like it
20:52 rangi LC-card-number
20:52 wizzyrea stick your lip out like that and a little birdie will come along and poo on it!
20:52 cait sekjal: I know how you feel
20:52 cait never seen him oding it before, but yes
20:52 cait hehe
20:52 wizzyrea he's so cute when he does that.
20:52 cait talljoy: the name of the zebraindex
20:52 sekjal sorry, long day
20:51 * sekjal pouts
20:51 rangi which is why i use stage marc import
20:51 sekjal well..... it should!
20:51 rangi it doesnt
20:51 sekjal that would be much more robust
20:51 rangi it should
20:51 sekjal shouldn't bulkmarcimport just use matching rules?
20:51 rangi lemme look
20:51 rangi so whats the index on 010 i wonder
20:51 talljoy what is it considering a 'matchindex'?
20:51 talljoy i couldn't figure out what it was asking me for there.
20:50 rangi matchindex,fieldtomatch
20:50 rangi you have to pass it an index
20:49 rangi right the pod is wrong
20:48 wizzyrea LOL
20:48 wahanui somebody said uhoh rangi was hmming
20:48 wizzyrea uhoh rangi?
20:48 Brooke did someone say wiki jiggering?
20:47 libsysguy yeah I started the wiki for that but it is in some desperate need of formatting
20:47 libsysguy oh hey my name came up
20:45 rangi i have to go read some perl doc
20:45 cait because fines are also involved in that
20:45 cait new accounts will be a good first step
20:45 cait uhoh rangi is hmming
20:45 sekjal it's one of the things I'd like to define Koha 4.0
20:44 rangi hmmm
20:44 sekjal very true
20:44 cait but overhauls take time
20:44 cait I agree
20:44 sekjal cait: as libsysguy was saying on list, the whole system needs an overhaul
20:43 cait sekjal: and if someone could make the notice triggers follow the calendar.. it would be even better :)
20:43 talljoy unable to search the database for duplicates : No query entered at /home/load07/kohaclone/misc/migration_tools/bulkmarcimport.pl line 217, <GEN15> line 1.
20:43 talljoy .Use of uninitialized value $recorddata in pattern match (m//) at /home/load07/kohaclone/misc/migration_tools/bulkmarcimport.pl line 392, <GEN15> line 1.
20:43 cait sekjal: I am really looking to see that fix go in, it's really hard to explain the current behaviour to the libraries
20:42 talljoy yes
20:42 rangi without the '' or ,
20:42 rangi talljoy have you tried -match=010a
20:41 cait yep, we do that too
20:40 cait I thought you give it only a min max and it will output everything in there
20:40 sekjal cait: not sure, we always run with -t
20:40 cait sekjal: I think that might be it - but without -t - are there levels?
20:39 rangi thanks people
20:39 sekjal perhaps it only works without the -t flag?
20:39 cait rangi: left a commenton the bug
20:39 sekjal but I still don't understand what it's supposed to accomplish
20:38 sekjal my bad
20:38 sekjal err, no
20:38 sekjal it's adding a new value in the select in one part, but then removing that value in the fetchrow
20:38 aarkerio I see when I import from Lib Congress auotmatically set "/" after title in MARC
20:38 rangi thanks sekjal
20:37 Brooke the answer is always cataloguers were potty trained at gunpoint.
20:37 sekjal that latest patch on 6292 looks wrong
20:37 cait aarkerio: there is not really a reasonable reason for it. it's in the standard...
20:36 rangi looking now
20:36 * hguewmLibrarian poofs
20:36 talljoy always. ;-)
20:36 talljoy yes
20:36 rangi talljoy: master branch?
20:36 talljoy bulkmarcimport for authorities and matching!
20:36 wizzyrea that's ISBD punctuation
20:35 talljoy yes, please.
20:35 aarkerio BTW, why when I am capturing a title must end with "/"
20:35 rangi i was gonna look up somethign for talljoy
20:35 wizzyrea and brooke
20:35 Brooke u guise, she's back.
20:35 rangi oh thats right
20:35 wizzyrea the party always starts when rangi gets here
20:35 Brooke shhhhh
20:35 talljoy i step out for a few minutes and koha goes to town. :)
20:35 wizzyrea lol
20:35 wizzyrea uh
20:35 Brooke figgerinityerself++
20:35 hguewmLibrarian toadstool?
20:35 hguewmLibrarian much thanks again
20:35 wizzyrea what's the rank below "ninja guru"
20:34 hguewmLibrarian i forgot to account for a graceperiod
20:34 hguewmLibrarian sweet! i answered my own question!
20:34 wizzyrea i'm so confused.
20:34 rangi sorry, i shoulda read it more
20:34 cait hehe
20:34 rangi im puzzled too
20:34 rangi yeah,
20:33 cait because we have a one day range with notice triggers
20:33 cait because items with different due dates can't be in the same range
20:33 wizzyrea ok wait, is her latest patch saying that a member won't get 2 notices if they have 2 overdue items that are not on the same date? I thought that was desired behavior, one notice for each overdue item
20:33 cait I don't understand the case sophie is trying to fix
20:33 cait ok, back to my problem
20:33 cait plant_and_food++
20:32 rangi yep plant and food complained
20:32 rangi 'a squeaky wheel gets the grease'
20:32 rangi its a saying
20:32 cait and I thought one of your libraries complained about it too... :)
20:32 cait you call a squeaky wheel?
20:31 rangi the squeaky wheel and all that
20:31 cait I am trying to figure out how to test the lates fix from sophie
20:31 rangi so much that i fixed it
20:31 rangi :)
20:31 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6292 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , Overdue notices have a bug when multiple overdues exist
20:31 Brooke bug 6292
20:31 cait rangi: I know - I complained about that often enough :)
20:31 cait which is wat is confusing me
20:31 cait but 6292
20:31 rangi it used to just use the latest one
20:31 cait there is no range actually
20:31 wizzyrea what's the number again?
20:30 cait not using triggered perhaps?
20:30 rangi cait: that was part of the bug
20:30 hguewmLibrarian works like magic!
20:30 wizzyrea for notice?
20:30 cait oh
20:30 * hguewmLibrarian bows to koha ninja gurus
20:30 wizzyrea different dates but in the same range?
20:30 cait how could 2 iems with different due dates trigger the same notice level?
20:30 aarkerio cool!
20:29 rangi latter even
20:29 wahanui hmmm... the later is better
20:29 rangi the later
20:29 wizzyrea no dashes is better
20:29 cait need some help: Several letters where generated if a borrower had overdues with different due_date triggering the same level
20:29 aarkerio when I am capturing ISBN is better 84-7903-706-7 or 8479037067 ?
20:29 cait hm
20:29 wizzyrea ^.^
20:29 wizzyrea i like cheese, does that count?
20:29 hguewmLibrarian maybe a cat named pizza
20:29 hguewmLibrarian pizza the hutt!
20:29 wizzyrea i'm not uh, perhaps as much of a pizza connisseur as you.
20:28 Brooke I will learn you pizza!
20:28 wizzyrea whatevs.
20:28 hguewmLibrarian even after a bachelors in spanish, they couldn't fix my grammar
20:28 Brooke you go to Champaign for Pizza.
20:28 wizzyrea i tease.
20:28 Brooke dude
20:28 * wizzyrea demands pizza.
20:28 hguewmLibrarian i learned spanish on the streets
20:28 wizzyrea and the pizza.
20:28 Brooke get us da sausage!
20:27 rangi but i got the chicago bit
20:27 Brooke He's from Chitown
20:27 rangi hguewmLibrarian: nope, cos im from nz and speak maori and english, no espanol :)
20:27 hguewmLibrarian mi ortografia y gramatica, pues no merece buenas marcas
20:27 * wizzyrea thinks of excel like fridge - the originally corporate name for the now generic construct of "spreadsheet program"
20:26 hguewmLibrarian does that help rangi?
20:25 rangi :)
20:25 cait ah sorry
20:25 rangi s/excel/[libreoffice|gnumeric]/
20:25 hguewmLibrarian senor brunk aprendi espanol en las calles de un pequeno ciudad nombrado chicago
20:25 wizzyrea ^^
20:25 cait or download open in excel and copy/paste
20:24 rangi so aarkerio is from mexico, where is mr brunk from i wonder?
20:24 wizzyrea (but I've never tried it)
20:24 wizzyrea I think if you save the output of the report as tab, you can use that as your barcode file
20:23 * hguewmLibrarian modified the first one to show the barcodes... but yeah gonna use the second solution
20:23 rangi its doable, but like people have said, could be messy
20:23 rangi pelletiermaxime: the places likely to be missed, that arent foreign keyed would be accountlines and statistics
20:22 wizzyrea should spit them all out for you
20:22 wizzyrea make that SELECT items.barcode FROM items WHERE items.itype IS NULL
20:22 cait pelletiermaxime: possible is everything, but I think it's probably easy to miss something here
20:22 wizzyrea oops, sorry
20:22 pelletiermaxime cait: ok, thanks for the help. I'm going to try as hard as I can to tell them it's not a good idea :P
20:22 wizzyrea WHERE items.itype IS NULL
20:22 wizzyrea FROM items
20:22 wizzyrea report like this hguewmLibrarian: SELECT items.barcode
20:22 cait we got a space before the branchcode accidently, which caused lots of problems
20:21 cait the only time I did it was for a library not having checked out anything yet
20:21 slef heh
20:21 wahanui you are a proponent of all things cooperative
20:21 slef slef?
20:21 cait in theory, you need to change at least: branches, items, issuingrules, perhaps issues/reserves, ...
20:21 * slef goes to dinner
20:21 slef yo pelletiermaxime catch you later :)
20:20 pelletiermaxime cait: yes
20:20 hguewmLibrarian *sifting*
20:20 cait pelletiermaxime: is the library already in production?
20:20 wizzyrea then click continue
20:20 wizzyrea or paste them into the box, one on each line
20:20 wizzyrea and save them to a file, one on each line
20:20 cait hguewmLibrarian: I think you might want to get a barcode list with the report first
20:20 wizzyrea you can modify your report to pull only barcodes
20:20 wizzyrea so now
20:19 hguewmLibrarian okie -> what now?
20:19 cait we use their ISIL
20:19 cait that's why we don't let our customers select their branchcodes
20:19 pelletiermaxime cait: because the client is asking to change it :/
20:19 wizzyrea item*
20:18 wizzyrea idem? sheesh
20:18 cait pelletiermaxime: an int pk would make sql queries harder
20:18 wizzyrea more -> tools -> batch idem modification
20:18 cait pelletiermaxime: why do you need to change it?
20:18 hguewmLibrarian what is this batch edit thou dost speak
20:18 hguewmLibrarian enlighten me oh wise one
20:18 wizzyrea you can use the batch edit
20:18 wizzyrea yep
20:17 hguewmLibrarian OK followup Question: Is there a simple way change the item types of these records to BK (Book)?
20:17 pelletiermaxime sure wish there was a simple int pk in that table :/
20:17 hguewmLibrarian eh, come to Fresno, CA.. we'll hide you in the fog banks
20:17 cait nice pic!
20:16 wizzyrea this is as close to foggy mountains as you'll get in kansas: http://www.prairiepathways.com/PrairieDust/images/20080405182935_dawn_road_and_fence_bw.jpg
20:16 cait you might be better off creating a new branch and changing the items to use that, but means creating new rules and everything too
20:15 cait I have.. but it's not nice
20:15 pelletiermaxime Has someone ever changed the value of an existing branches.branchcode ? Trying to look at what it would break
20:15 hguewmLibrarian how about.. without detection!
20:15 cait and without sneezing from hay fever
20:15 hguewmLibrarian ah... true kansas ninja can run/hide in cornfield w/o getting a scratch!
20:14 cait :)
20:14 wizzyrea see, cait knows. :)
20:14 cait retreat in a field of sunflowers?
20:14 hguewmLibrarian no... this grasshopper has many many more lessons before guru status
20:14 wizzyrea no foggy mountains in kansas, silly.
20:14 wizzyrea ... but I live in kansas?
20:14 Brooke liz likes her foggy mountain retreat.
20:14 cait and soon you will be a koha ninja guru too :)
20:14 wizzyrea ^^
20:13 Brooke don't tell anyone
20:13 wizzyrea tee hee
20:13 hguewmLibrarian this is definitely the place where the koha ninja guru live
20:13 wizzyrea yw
20:13 hguewmLibrarian muchas gracias
20:13 cait :)
20:13 hguewmLibrarian it works now
20:13 hguewmLibrarian yup yup! geniuses!
20:12 cait hguewmLibrarian: what wizzyrea said - delete it if you don't want to run it for a specific library
20:12 wizzyrea but seriously, reindex :P
20:12 wizzyrea yw aarkerio
20:12 aarkerio thanks guys!
20:12 wizzyrea no, just get rid of that bit
20:12 aarkerio Works!! this thing is great!
20:12 wizzyrea OPACXSLT i mean
20:12 hguewmLibrarian ? nope... can it be ANY?
20:11 cait hguewmLibrarian: AND items.homebranch='LIBRARY'?
20:11 wizzyrea if it's on "using XSLT stylesheets" change it to "normal"
20:11 cait have yo changed the items.homebranch bit?
20:11 wizzyrea XSLTResultsDisplay is what you're looking for aarkerio
20:10 hguewmLibrarian so.. I add it, run it and get blank table. I'm betting it's whitespace error....
20:10 rangi bbiab
20:10 rangi ok my stop
20:08 aarkerio DisplayOPACiconsXSLT = Show
20:08 rangi so try a full reindex
20:07 rangi if changing that fixes it, I think its a index problem
20:07 wizzyrea awesomesauce
20:07 hguewmLibrarian yup, most definitely Wizzy
20:07 rangi in systempreferences in opac tab
20:07 aarkerio rangi, thanks for your help, wher can I if check XSLT is off?
20:06 wizzyrea you know how to add a report from sql right?
20:06 hguewmLibrarian okie dokie!
20:06 cait :)
20:06 wizzyrea try that report hguewmLibrarian
20:06 wizzyrea http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/SQL_Reports_Library#Null_Item_Type
20:05 rangi aarkerio: do you have xslt switched on?
20:05 cait I would try a custom report
20:05 cait :)
20:05 hguewmLibrarian hey cait!
20:05 hguewmLibrarian So i'm trying to hunt down records that have NULL for item type; because they're avoiding the overdue trigger. Is there an easy way to do this?
20:04 cait hi hguewmLibrarian
20:04 aarkerio hola!
20:04 aarkerio yes, you can see items in OPAC but also "Availability: No items available"
20:04 wizzyrea hi :)
20:04 hguewmLibrarian Good Day
20:03 rangi so items are showing then?
20:03 rangi oh oh
20:03 aarkerio No I running Zebra, I have one item and is listed in search
20:03 rangi but my guess is either the cronjob isn't running or nozebra mode
20:02 rangi or went in sysprefs
20:02 rangi we did, but if u upgraded
20:02 Brooke (It's nearly dead.)
20:02 wizzyrea for new installs.
20:01 wizzyrea aside, I thought we took away that option
20:01 wizzyrea aarkerio: are you running in nozebra?
20:01 rangi or if using nozebra then it never will
20:01 wizzyrea but right, if zebra isn't running it wouldn't catch it if he added items after the initial index
20:00 rangi but not items
20:00 rangi so does nozebra
20:00 rangi yes
20:00 wizzyrea well it brought back results
20:00 aarkerio Koha version: 3.04.02.000
20:00 rangi make sure you are running zebra
20:00 rangi which means its most like an indexing thing
20:00 aarkerio this is the item: http://mononeurona.org/img/imgusers/aarkerio_2271.png
19:59 rangi yep
19:59 wizzyrea *nod* I was noting that
19:59 Brooke oh that's interesting. They are available from the details screen...
19:59 wahanui rumour has it searching faq is at http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/searching/
19:59 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 17.1�C (9:58 PM CEST on September 01, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 29.93 in 1013.4 hPa (Steady).
19:59 wizzyrea searching faq?
19:59 cait @wunder konstanz
19:58 rangi what version of koha?
19:58 aarkerio http://decodic.incan.edu.mx/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=cancer
19:57 rangi and you definitely have items?
19:57 rangi what version?
19:56 aarkerio I ,ma new in Koha, I see "Availability: No items available" in all search results books
19:56 wizzyrea brr
19:53 rangi southerly
19:53 Brooke I would claim taunting, but that's some crap weather ye're havin
19:53 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 7.0�C (7:00 AM NZST on September 02, 2011). Conditions: Rain Showers. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 4.0�C. Windchill: 3.0�C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Rising).
19:53 rangi @wunder wellington nz
19:48 aarkerio talljoy, thx!
19:47 talljoy rangi++
19:47 talljoy thanks. will table this issue and work on another.
19:47 rangi and ill look at the code
19:47 rangi and ill be at my computer
19:47 rangi gimme 40mins
19:47 talljoy unable to search the database for duplicates : No query entered at /home/load07/kohaclone/misc/migration_tools/bulkmarcimport.pl line 217, <GEN15> line 1.
19:47 rangi I do that from the stage marc records
19:46 cait so no
19:46 cait I think we use the other scripts, for staged marc import
19:46 talljoy perl ~/kohaclone/misc/migration_tools/bulkmarcimport.pl -a -file GODDALL.279 -match='010,a' -v results in:
19:46 rangi not me
19:46 rangi from the commandline?
19:45 talljoy has anyone used bulkmarcimport with matching? is this asking for a specific match point? incoming record matched to a specific existing record?
19:45 talljoy :)
19:45 cait :)
19:44 rangi Back
19:40 * Brooke definitely didn't watch Margaret Cho instead of working on her preso.
19:38 Brooke yo yo yo NEKLS in the hizzouse!
19:38 wizzyrea whaddup brooke
19:38 Brooke kia ora
19:36 talljoy http://www.oclc.org/bibformats/en/0xx/ OCLC also show that as a field in the marc record.
19:35 talljoy I've seen. You may try email the list to see if anyone else is using it.
19:35 talljoy aarkerio: It is still valid if the LOC has it in the files. I have not seen it in use in the libraries I
19:28 aarkerio http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd060.html
19:28 aarkerio this is still a validate page?
19:26 indradg :)
19:26 trea ty
19:26 indradg trea yes
19:26 trea are koha usernames (web interface) case sensitive?
19:23 * rangi goes to catch his bus
19:22 rangi stop talking rubbish :)
19:22 rangi so id love to point them at something saying look, heres 170
19:22 rangi indradg: we got told that 'deploying koha to 25 libraries in nz would be too big for koha'
19:19 rangi 170 is no small number
19:19 rangi *nod*
19:18 indradg this project has taught us a lot... the real stumbling blocks in a 100% FS deployment
19:18 cait aarkerio: having authorities for it should be possible by creating a new framework and linking it to the field
19:18 cait aarkerio: you can catalog the field in marc21 - but I am not sure if it shows up in detail screens. It shows in isbd afaik
19:17 indradg rangi, i didn't submit any "paper" for the KohaCon CfP, will be sharing the inputs during BoFs I'm sure.
19:15 indradg rangi, the systems have been deployed at 170 town libs... we are in the middle of an OS refresh, and I'm trying to convince an upgrade to 3.4 from 3.2.6
19:14 aarkerio hi! somebody knows if Koha support National Library of Medicine (NLM) Classification Scheme ?
19:14 talljoy when running the bukmarcimport for authority records, what is best field to use for matching authority records? 010 (library of congress control number)
19:11 rangi indradg: hows west bengal going?
18:56 indradg \m/
18:56 cait I am not going this year, but hopefully next year
18:56 rangi but ill be phoning in a presentation
18:56 rangi one in canada, then the big nz library conference in wellington
18:56 indradg rangi, i remember you telling me that
18:56 rangi i have 2 other conferences on at the same time
18:55 indradg so you people have tickets in place to visit india?
18:55 wizzyrea indradg: hi there :)
18:54 cait hi indradg
18:54 rangi hi indradg
18:54 indradg hi rangi cait wizzyrea :)
18:44 rangi i do
18:44 cait hehe you love stats
18:44 rangi (nz time)
18:44 rangi Peak for #koha 61 (Fri Sep 2 02:00:33 2011)
18:44 rangi ohh new channel peak
18:28 wizzyrea lol
18:27 rangi hehe
18:27 rangi hint hint
18:27 rangi if you join from there, thats my referral number :)
18:27 rangi https://my.fsf.org/associate/support_freedom?referrer=9619
18:25 wizzyrea i saw that, awesome
18:25 rangi http://www.fsf.org/patrons
18:25 rangi but cool
18:25 rangi completely offtopic
18:23 * cait is confused
18:23 rangi one of my tasks
18:23 rangi actually i have a few people to chase up about that today
18:22 wizzyrea ^.^
18:22 wizzyrea of course she does!
18:22 cait um
18:22 rangi :)
18:22 rangi project manager?
18:22 rangi want a job?
18:22 cait hmpf?!
18:22 rangi :)
18:21 rangi im planning to send it all to you actually cait
18:21 wizzyrea ^^
18:21 cait and I hope you don't plan to do all that work today!
18:21 wizzyrea :( that sucks
18:21 rangi nope, been sick
18:21 wizzyrea vacation?
18:21 rangi since i have 3 days of work piled up
18:21 rangi not sure ill get to do too much at work
18:20 rangi i cheated, and started on kiribati time
18:20 rangi yup
18:20 wizzyrea I guess that means it's over for you first too though ;)
18:20 wizzyrea lol you're in the future!
18:19 rangi hehe
18:19 rangi im still winning! http://div.libriotech.no/kohamisc/hourlystatus-gbsd4.txt
18:19 trea thanks rangi - good to see you again
18:18 rangi oh and congrats trea :)
18:17 rangi to make up for it
18:17 rangi ill make a new one when i get into work in a couple of hours
18:17 rangi :)
18:14 wizzyrea hehe
18:13 * cait starts the bug sqashing play list
18:13 cait and making me do the hard part :P
18:11 rangi im just using it as an advertisement for gbsd
18:11 cait sorry for being misunderstandable :)
18:11 rangi yup, you could reply and say that too
18:11 rangi none have been pushed becase the third patch hasnt been signed off
18:10 cait could also be it's assigned to a patron category that has no overudes activated
18:10 cait the mail you replied to - hard to tell from the description ther eif that's really the problem with it
18:10 rangi theres 3 :)
18:10 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded.
18:10 rangi @later tell fredericd you should set innodb_file_per_table in you my.cnf, then you can reclaim space
18:10 cait ah
18:10 cait both have not been pushed yet
18:09 rangi the follow up one?
18:09 cait not easy to tell, notenough information
18:09 cait rangi: but I think the mail thing should be a different bug perhaps
18:08 wizzyrea <.< I might be feeling silly >.>
18:08 rangi fredericd: you around?
18:08 wizzyrea mooooaarrrr
18:08 wizzyrea you can have MORE karma when the job is done
18:08 wizzyrea :P
18:08 wizzyrea well I meant "no way you get karma for volunteering, and because you already have a plan in place to test it"
18:07 wizzyrea o right lol
18:07 cait in kiribati and nz
18:07 rangi so it will look cool if we can then go look its squashed
18:07 cait today
18:07 cait yes itis
18:07 wizzyrea ! no wai
18:07 rangi cos i just replied to someones email and said today is gbsd
18:07 cait lol
18:07 wahanui after the job is done liz:) has neutral karma
18:07 cait karma after the job is done liz:)
18:07 wizzyrea plus, you have a plan, so that helps :)
18:06 wizzyrea cait++
18:06 rangi yay
18:06 cait i signed offon the first
18:06 cait I can do it
18:06 rangi theres one followup patch on that, awaiting sign off still
18:05 cait vanilla?
18:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6292 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , Overdue notices have a bug when multiple overdues exist
18:05 rangi bug 6292
18:05 wizzyrea what's the flavour?
18:05 rangi who wants to do me a flavour?
17:56 cait hi trea
17:54 trea hi cait
17:46 cait hi liz :)
17:46 wizzyrea hi cait :D
17:46 * cait waves
16:51 wizzyrea I seriously want to know what my coworkers do to rechargeable batteries.
16:48 libsysguy maybe...i just have some friends that go to texas state
16:47 rhcl I went to Angelo State University for a while, and somewhere else--TSTI sounds familiar. Texas State Tech Institute maybe? Is that a college w/ a branch in San Angelo?
16:46 libsysguy wizzyrea: i went and talked to our acquisitions librarian and she said it wasn't broken just not doing what she wanted...thats what I get for trusting second hand information
16:44 libsysguy_afk you went to texas state rhcl?
16:36 rhcl did I go to texas tech? sounds familiar. No, think it was Tx State Tech College(?). I've attended lots of places.
16:34 wahanui i heard back to school was one big germ orgy. It's horrible to behold.
16:34 rhcl back to school?
16:10 wizzyrea well no
16:10 sekjal permissions control and security would be the trickiest part, I reckon
16:09 sekjal it doesn't strike me as a terribly hard thing to write
16:08 wizzyrea or at least the page it's on would be extremely mobile friendly
16:07 sekjal and ideally it would be something that could eventually be made mobile and linked to a smartphone's barcode scanner app
16:07 wizzyrea it'd be handy
16:07 wizzyrea boy
16:07 wizzyrea but when you need it
16:07 wizzyrea it has relatively limited usefulness for day to day
16:06 wizzyrea I love it.
16:06 sekjal wizzyrea: exactly that workflow, yes
16:06 sekjal imagine a collection of 20,000 items, needing to go from 6-digit barcodes to 14-digit (so they could join the state system, say)
16:06 wizzyrea sort of thing
16:06 wizzyrea so say, scan a barcode, scan the new barcode, done
16:05 sekjal a tool for making the rebarcoding of items as easy as possible
16:05 wizzyrea what does it do exactly
16:05 wizzyrea explain
16:05 sekjal anyone here have an opinion on the value of Rebarcoding Tool for Koha?
15:48 libsysguy im wondering if it is hourly that is breaking it since im still on that branch or if its actually broken
15:48 libsysguy even if you select something else
15:47 libsysguy like it always sets to today
15:47 wizzyrea broken how?
15:47 libsysguy can somebody verify if the shipment date field is broken in acqui/parcels.pl
15:32 libsysguy <.<
15:31 wizzyrea >.>
15:31 wizzyrea won't offend me, I didn't go to Texas Tech.
15:31 libsysguy BURN
15:31 wizzyrea OHSNAP
15:31 libsysguy not me...what do you think i go to texas tech or something
15:30 wizzyrea I won't even ask what kind of germs you are passing around.
15:30 libsysguy hehe
15:30 wizzyrea O.o
15:30 * libsysguy shall not say any more about that
15:30 libsysguy i guess that is slightly different when you get to college
15:30 wizzyrea that's a fabulous mental image.
15:29 libsysguy yeah I will contest to that
15:29 wizzyrea "germ orgy"
15:29 oleonard Back to school is one big germ orgy. It's horrible to behold.
15:29 wizzyrea I take it you have experience
15:29 wizzyrea oleonard: ah, is that what that is?
15:28 oleonard wizzyrea: That's a back-to-school cold.
15:28 * wizzyrea giggles
15:28 wizzyrea summer cold. :(
15:28 oleonard Let it never be said that wizzyrea is not explicit.
15:28 libsysguy gross wizzyrea
15:28 libsysguy eww snot?
15:28 wizzyrea I blame the snot.
15:28 * wizzyrea sighs
15:28 wizzyrea do you think I could use the word explicitly any more?
15:27 wizzyrea (someone probably explicitly chose the numeric by author explicitly)
15:27 * wizzyrea will think about it
15:27 libsysguy wouldn't hurt my feelings so much...but like i said...im not a power user there
15:26 wizzyrea right
15:26 libsysguy gotcha...so just changing the default
15:26 wizzyrea it just makes me crazy to have to click on ID every time
15:26 wizzyrea all columns are sortable
15:26 libsysguy would it be possible to variable-ize it in a drop down
15:25 libsysguy but I don't really use reports all that much
15:25 libsysguy i have no objections
15:25 wizzyrea yes
15:25 libsysguy the sorting?
15:25 wizzyrea it's driving me NUTS
15:25 libsysguy dang it
15:25 wizzyrea you just missed hdl
15:25 wizzyrea would anyone object if I changed the default sorting on the saved reports page from numeric by author to numeric by id?
15:25 libsysguy so can anybody comment on Koha and Solr? I'm really interested in trying it out.
15:19 libsysguy hi rhcl
15:18 rhcl Hi libsysguy
15:14 alex_a bye
15:09 trea o/
15:09 libsysguy morning #Koha
15:04 reiveune bye
14:48 wizzyrea later hdl
14:48 hdl bye
14:45 wizzyrea later kf
14:45 kf bye all
14:45 hdl see in C4::Templates
14:44 wizzyrea teaching_the_bot_useful_things++
14:44 wizzyrea kf++
14:44 wahanui template var is $template->{VARS}->{'name'}=$var;
14:44 kf template var
14:44 kf template var is $template->{VARS}->{'name'}=$var;
14:44 wizzyrea yw :)
14:44 jcamins_away Thanks.
14:44 wizzyrea i had to look it up in the logs lol
14:44 wizzyrea $template->{VARS}->{'name'}=$var;
14:43 jcamins_away Unfortunately, I can't come up with how to find the answer.
14:43 jcamins_away I know.
14:43 wizzyrea rangi's said it a zillion times in channel
14:43 jcamins_away I had a feeling.
14:42 wizzyrea sec
14:42 wizzyrea no, it's got a different construction
14:42 wahanui $template->param is a h::t::p things
14:42 jcamins_away $template->param?
14:40 jcamins_away s/variable/parameter/
14:40 jcamins_away How do you add a T::T variable?
14:40 hdl But this is not what I would recommend.
14:39 hdl with Mail::Sendmail
14:39 hdl trea: you could also add some automatic cc
14:39 wizzyrea that's in more -> administration -> libraries, branches and groups
14:37 wizzyrea and i believe that's the reply to for all notices
14:37 kf shouldn't it use the mail it was send from?
14:37 kf hm
14:37 wizzyrea Well, it's not in the notices module, but you can set a custom library email address in the library definition
14:36 trea aside from setting one in the body of the message itself.
14:35 trea The overdue/fine/hold ready notices that koha sends - there is not a method currently to specify a custom "Reply-To" email in the notices module, correct?
14:03 wizzyrea gl... lordie he's fast.
14:03 sekjal sorry, gtg, car is ready to pick up.
14:02 wizzyrea hiya oleonard
14:02 sekjal hi, oleonard
14:02 oleonard Hi sekjal & wizzyrea
13:59 kf morning wizzy
13:58 wizzyrea mornin
13:39 kf was checking something with a coworker
13:39 kf yep, sorry
13:39 oleonard Thanks magnuse, I hadn't seen that
13:39 kmkale Namaskar #koha
13:36 huginn 04Bug 6458: normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, ASSIGNED , incorrect parsing result in translation processing
13:36 * magnuse thinks kf was thinking about comment #60: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6458#c60
13:35 oleonard Hi LBA
13:32 oleonard I don't know what you're talking about
13:30 kf but if you want to fix it too - I will sign-off
13:30 kf very unhappy I missed the scoping thing
13:30 kf oleonard: I want to fix the suggestions patch
13:27 * oleonard thinks he'll have a little time for it today
13:27 kf I will try to work a bit on it this evening
13:27 kf oleonard: no - you can pick whatever you want :)
13:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6458 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, ASSIGNED , incorrect parsing result in translation processing
13:25 oleonard kf, I though I'd try to hit Bug 6458 again today. Is there anything you'd like to claim?
13:07 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6829] Remove two warnings for opac-MARCdetail <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6829>
13:00 kf I think this was different in other versions
13:00 kf another question: we see a problem with allowonshelfholds in 3.4.4 - one book checked out, one book on shelf, no on self holds allowed, but still you can place a hold in opac
12:58 kf hmm
12:58 kf using jquery you could kill it from some places I think.. and you could suppress the titles with opac suppression perhaps
12:57 kf I don't think it's possible currently
12:57 kf I talked to sekjal about this
12:55 oleonard I got a question about setting up a "Cataloging/In-processing" branch
12:55 oleonard Is there a way to set up a branch so that it doesn't show up as an option in OPAC searches, login forms, etc?
12:55 oleonard I think the answer to this question is "not since Koha 1.x," but here goes:
12:47 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6829] Remove two warnings for opac-MARCdetail <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6829>
11:38 slef http://youtube.com/watch?v=Nrmcxa1yBec
11:34 Brooke hadddd dtoooooo
11:34 Brooke http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCrT96QJBfQ
11:32 slef oh yeah... I know what may confuse you if you come to Edinburgh... my Scottish-sounding colleague is not the one based there :)
11:31 druthb cool, pretty misty-foggy morning here in south dakota today. :)
11:31 slef v_o_v <-- nasty, British and short
11:31 * druthb chuckles.
11:30 Brooke 0/ <--- tall poppy
11:30 slef v_o_v
11:30 kf hi druthb
11:30 Oak o/
11:30 druthb :)
11:30 Brooke 0/
11:30 druthb o/
11:30 Brooke so you're making your own hard mode
11:30 Brooke that deadline to me is put in a bid or you don't get to be on the ballot
11:30 slef my mistake... I thought the meeting was the deadline and didn't look.
11:29 Oak :)
11:29 Brooke now if you pay them to vote for you, and they've no intent to go, that'd be cheating.
11:29 slef hrm, what does the deadline mean? Should I have not updated the date?
11:29 Brooke voting isn't cheating. If they show up, it counts :D
11:29 kf nah, cheating would not be nice
11:28 Brooke phone yer friends :P
11:28 kf hope europe gets a ton of votes
11:28 kf today is deadline
11:28 kf oh
11:27 Brooke nope, but Reno's on the board. I'm supporting Edinburgh though
11:27 rangi barring a ton of votes for reno, looks that way
11:27 jcamins_away Looks like Edinburgh's going to be hosting KohaCon12- no other proposals from Europe!
11:26 rangi hot air is the problem :)
11:26 Brooke I have enough hot air to fix that rangi ;)
11:26 rangi least you have ozone :)
11:25 * Brooke thinks of fried salmon skin...
11:25 slef But it's not slefcon.
11:25 slef I like Sep. Less frying my skin than summer :)
11:25 kf june... that's near and still too far away
11:25 Brooke it'd be like me saying I'm coming over tomorrow and I don't care if you're ready to house me
11:25 Brooke I don't think any good would come out of bullying you to have it at a time that's inconvenient to you
11:25 slef ok, I've updated the proposals table. I'll dump this back on mle now :)
11:24 rangi getting a venue is 80% of the organising, the rest it just details :)
11:24 rangi yep, thats often how it works
11:24 * Brooke nods.
11:24 slef (as in: might be able to reserve June now, but not Sep until next May... that sort of thing)
11:23 Brooke cross quarters should all have roughly the same daylight
11:23 slef Brooke: bizarrely, it might actually move us the right side of a booking horizon and lengthen the prep time.
11:22 jcamins_away slef: yeah, that's what I figured.
11:22 Brooke mathematically, that'd bear out
11:22 slef jcamins_away: Sep is probably similar daylight to March.
11:22 kf :)
11:22 rangi yup
11:22 Brooke if you are fine cutting the prep time you've got back that far, should be fine
11:22 slef rangi escapes the winter
11:22 * jcamins_away has never been to Edinburgh in the autumn, but there's certainly a lot more sunlight in June than in, for example, March.
11:21 rangi june is good
11:21 slef June would also be more daylight and better weather if there's a daytrip... or if you just want to walk up the volcano
11:21 kf and edinburgh is cool - I have been there once when visiting friends in scotland :)
11:20 jcamins_away slef: makes sense to me.
11:20 kf no objections then, the sooner I get to see you all again the better :)
11:20 kf ok
11:20 slef 2012
11:20 kf but june 2012 or 13?
11:20 kf slef: no objections from me
11:19 kf trying to blame you for a new awesome feature
11:19 slef pondering KohaCon12 in June: opinions? It would be easier to find venue and accommodation in Edinburgh because the big festivals won't be on.
11:19 kf not trying to
11:19 rangi you cant blame marc stuff on me
11:17 kf story
11:17 kf sounds like a rangi storty
11:16 Brooke I LIKE SPACE!
11:15 Brooke and by the end of lunch, we could.
11:15 Brooke I was all like "We should be able to export MARC records."
11:14 Brooke in Koha
11:14 Brooke cause this one time
11:14 Brooke which I tell all the time
11:14 * magnuse wanders off in search of lunch
11:14 magnuse "i had this idea and before i knew it someone else had implemented it" is quite a good story too, i think ;-)
11:14 Brooke that looks like a logical list of the guild dropdowns as they would be if one applied them to LIS
11:13 Brooke indeed
11:13 rangi be better to present on it already being done :)
11:12 Brooke diverging is no fun
11:12 Brooke but seriously, at least everyone's thoughts are converging
11:12 magnuse rangi: cool
11:11 Brooke this is just furthering my thought that folks are stealing my presentation from out from under me. ;)
11:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6828 enhancement, P5, ---, barry, NEW , Add Admin Dashboard for staff users.
11:11 rangi bug 6828 looks good
11:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6822 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED , RIS export problem in opac-export.pl with parsing the MARC
11:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6351 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, ruth, ASSIGNED , Cannot delete library-specific circulation rules
11:05 jenkins_koha * stevecallender: Bug 6822: fix RIS export from OPAC
11:05 jenkins_koha * ian.walls: Bug 6351: Cannot delete library-specific holds polices and checkout limits
11:05 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #396: STILL UNSTABLE in 44 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/396/
10:56 Brooke 0/
10:32 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6278] Funny translation bug with XSLT subfieldSelect parameters <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6278>
10:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6704 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , merging records cuts off fields at quotation marks
10:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6656 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , Default sort preferences ignored on advanced search
10:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6794 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Broken toggle in member-flags in ie
10:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5524 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , Can't delete list from second page of results
10:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6528 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Cataloging search issues - Holdings not displayed in location column
10:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6715 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, fcapovilla, ASSIGNED , xmlControlField.js always fetches the value_builder xml files in the "en" directory.
10:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6712 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Remove memberofinstitution markup from templates until it can be completed
10:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6696 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , New category button broken when no categories defined
10:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6652 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Zip showing in funny place on libraries admin
10:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6791 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , editing list with apostrophe loses text
10:21 jenkins_koha Starting build 396 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #385 14 j ago)
10:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6733 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, ASSIGNED , printing routing list sends you to main serials page
10:21 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 6704 : Escaping html in the merging records, so " don't break the merge
10:21 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 6656 : Fix for advanced search not respecting default sort order
10:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6765 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, ulrich.kleiber, NEW , Enable correct checksums for UTF-8 encoded data
10:21 jenkins_koha * maxime.pelletier: Bug 6794 : Fixing a bug with member flags in IE
10:21 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 5524 : Cant delete list from the second page of lists
10:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4419 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Cannot change module for notice templates
10:21 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 6528 : Cataloguing search not showing location for available items
10:21 jenkins_koha * preprod34: Bug 6715 - Fix xmlControlfield.js so the xml files are fetched in the correct language directory.
10:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6662 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, ASSIGNED , sort options in opac are dewey specific
10:21 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Updating about page and history
10:21 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6712 - Remove memberofinstitution markup from templates until it can be completed
10:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5866 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, NEW , At larger hold volume, waitingreserves.pl for all libraries times out, can cause generalized slowness
10:21 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6696, New category button broken when no categories defined
10:21 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6652, Zip showing in funny place on libraries admin
10:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4893 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Add an input field for Check In on main Staff Client page
10:21 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6791 - editing list with apostrophe loses text
10:21 jenkins_koha * colin.campbell: Bug 6733 - Change return page after printing routing slip
10:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6753 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Markup corrections and improvements for label export window
10:21 jenkins_koha * ulrich.kleiber: Bug 6765: sip2 unicode checksum
10:21 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Fix for Bug 4419 - cannot change module for notice templates
10:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6748 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, kyle.m.hall, RESOLVED FIXED, Add link to fast add framework while circulating, if a barcode is not found
10:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6726 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , When SMS is enabled the messaging table is misaligned
10:21 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 6662: Remove Dewey Specific References in Sort
10:21 jenkins_koha * m.de.rooy: 6747 Checks in opac-export
10:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6723 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, wvanwanrooij, ASSIGNED , allow framework import with CRLF
10:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6721 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, srdjan, ASSIGNED , Add Basket number and Invoice number search
10:21 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bumping database version
10:21 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 5866 : Updated patch to speed up holds awaiting pickup
10:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6562 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, RESOLVED FIXED, Reserve request generates unnecessary runtime errors
10:21 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Fix for Bug 4893, Add an input field for Check In on main Staff Client page
10:21 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Follow-up fix for Bug 6753, Markup corrections and improvements for label export window
10:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6538 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, ASSIGNED , help on letter.pl is incorrect
10:21 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 6748 - Add link to fast add framework while circulating, if a barcode is not found
10:21 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Follow-up fix for Bug 6726 - When SMS is enabled the messaging table is misaligned
10:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6695 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Layout of patron category add/edit form slightly broken
10:21 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Fixing typo in history doc
10:21 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: 150th developer!!!
10:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4868 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Improve controls for cloning and deleting MARC subfields
10:21 jenkins_koha * wvanwanrooij: Bug 6723 : import-framework-crlf
10:21 jenkins_koha * srdjan: Bug 6721 - improve searching in the acquisitions system
10:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6690 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, fcapovilla, ASSIGNED , If multiple issues are received in serials-edit.pl, changing the status of any issue changes the date of the first issue.
10:21 jenkins_koha * colin.campbell: Bug 6562: Silence runtime error in reserve/request.pl
10:21 jenkins_koha * nengard: bug 6538 update letter.pl help file
10:21 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6695 - Layout of patron category add/edit form slightly broken
10:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6727 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, salva, ASSIGNED , can't import frameworks
10:21 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Follow-up to Bug 4868, Improve controls for cloning and deleting subfields
10:21 jenkins_koha * frederick.capovilla: Bug 6690: If multiple issues are received in serials-edit.pl, changing the status of any issue changes the date of the first issue.
10:21 jenkins_koha * salvazm: Bug 6727 - Change on exporting and importing csv to deal with spurious CR/LF
10:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4330 normal, P5, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , Copyright statements out of date
10:21 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 4330 : Updating copyright statements for about.pl
10:21 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 4330 : Updating copyright statements
10:21 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #395: STILL UNSTABLE in 45 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/395/
10:08 Oak :) gracias
10:06 Brooke welcome back
10:06 * Oak waves
10:01 magnuse np
10:01 Brooke thanks for organising these, Magnus
10:00 Brooke hooray :D
10:00 magnuse GBSD#4 just started in Kiribati!
09:49 * Brooke s cat is starting an early, relentless breakfast campaign.
09:43 kf never tried it, sorry
09:42 Barrc kf: yep, I will but before that shouldn't just adding it to the admin.pref file be enough? That is, for my own testing?
09:42 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6822: fix RIS export from OPAC <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a2a9bc522035c17a24aa48badc5184b015197826> / Merge remote-tracking branch 'kc/new/bug_6351' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6be9d2b27dd47c859eb6ab0cfd873b2059206986> / Bug 6351: Cannot delete library-specific holds polices and checkout limits <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/
09:42 kf so people get informed about thenew option on update
09:42 kf for new installs and to updatedatabase
09:42 kf hm you should also add it to the sys pref sql file
09:42 Barrc However, a SQL insert directly works fine
09:41 Barrc Thanks - I have been reading that, I thought that the new sys pref in, lets say, the admin.pref file would save it to the database, and it does. It just does't insert it correctly!
09:41 Brooke kf: I'm still betting that if you ask the creator, they'll be cool with it given other responses.
09:40 wahanui OK, kf.
09:40 kf wahanui: system preferences is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/System_Preferences
09:40 Brooke anyone know if the new manual is going to add a search sometime soon? that page went up to 3.2
09:39 kf system preferences?
09:39 kf Barrc: there is a document about new sys prefs on the wiki
09:38 kf and it links back
09:38 kf Brooke: a character badge shows the stats from chorewars - different use case
09:37 magnuse Barrc: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/System_Preferences#Adding_a_new_system_preference
09:37 * Brooke mumbles about muggles today...
09:37 Brooke real Koha is light work, not dark arts. ;)
09:36 Barrc Does anyone know if there is some dark art chant needed to add a new SystemPreference through the pref files!! :-)
09:36 magnuse don't think so...
09:36 Brooke I bet if you're clever, you can make a background mash for it >:)
09:36 Brooke is there an image for the koha party?
09:35 jenkins_koha Starting build 395 for job Koha_master (previous build: ABORTED -- last SUCCESS #385 13 j ago)
09:35 jenkins_koha rangi: job koha_master build scheduled now
09:35 rangi !jenkins build koha_master now
09:35 magnuse i found a CC-BY "squash bug" on flickr...
09:34 magnuse but it shouldn't be tied to me...
09:34 Brooke Sure. You can generate a Character Badge image which you can put on any other site you like, and it'll be updated to show your character's progression through adventures.
09:34 Brooke Can I put my character's profile on a web page?
09:34 * Brooke coughs.
09:31 Brooke asking is generally otay
09:31 Brooke rights schmights
09:31 magnuse yeah, there is that
09:31 kf rights
09:30 Brooke you should stick your chorewars avatar there instead of the newb egg
09:29 * Brooke nods.
09:28 magnuse nope, it will be lots of tweets
09:28 Brooke noise = bettah then dead in that case.
09:28 Brooke 3 tweetsish a day
09:28 Brooke pfft
09:27 magnuse and i will add the #kohails hashtag to the tweets from http://twitter.com/#!/KohaGBSD (until someone complains about the noise...)
09:27 Brooke winguardium leviosa!
09:26 magnuse which should make this file magically appear: http://div.libriotech.no/kohamisc/hourlystatus-gbsd4.txt
09:24 kf :)
09:23 magnuse in 36 minutes, gbsd starts in Kiribati
09:21 wahanui i guess friday is It's Friday, Friday Gotta get down on Friday
09:21 Brooke friday?
09:20 magnuse yay!
09:20 wahanui it has been said that tomorrow is pizza friday!
09:20 magnuse tomorrow!
09:19 magnuse mmm pizza
09:18 Brooke hi cait :)
09:18 kf mmm pizza
09:18 Brooke tee hee
09:18 wahanui magnuse is, like, afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza
09:18 Brooke wahanui magnuse?
09:18 magnuse \o
09:12 Brooke howdy
09:12 Oak Heya Brooke :D
09:12 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6704 : Escaping html in the merging records, so " don't break the merge <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=720e3012a87ca437c17e864f159138304ed0c006> / Bug 6656 : Fix for advanced search not respecting default sort order <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5a2fc683d842ca964b42c8ae68b15aba2526ef30> / Bug 6794 : Fixing a bug with member flags in IE <http://git.koha
09:12 Brooke 0/
09:08 magnuse glernil: i'm not sure about that, eythian would know...
09:07 glernil another thing.. is it possible to create separate crontab settings for koha-instance1 and koha-instance2?
09:06 glernil ok. got to try again.
09:05 magnuse maybe do the test upgrade again and make a note of the error? or test the test you have done thoroughly?
09:05 magnuse hm, i would make sure it does...
09:04 glernil but i'm not sure if it is working properly as it should be.
09:03 glernil nope. i just ignored it. then it went fine.
09:02 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5524 : Cant delete list from the second page of lists <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e39de040206eae26e22d6375479b548017cb7217> / Bug 6528 : Cataloguing search not showing location for available items <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ff4b179e14ab15bf5d20852a37e2b0a2dca45800>
09:02 magnuse s/so/do/
09:01 magnuse glernil: so you know what the error was?
09:01 huginn Oak: The operation succeeded.
09:01 Oak @later tell Brooke http://www.sebastianmarshall.com/the-million-dollar-question
09:01 kf hi Oak
09:01 glernil then i tried to use the script to upgrade to 3.4
09:01 Oak :)
09:01 Oak magnuse
09:01 Oak hello kf
09:01 magnuse Oak
09:01 magnuse glernil: hm, that sounds ominous...
09:01 Oak hello #koha
09:00 glernil actually i did an upgrade of a test installation in a virtual machine but an error occured
09:00 magnuse koha-dump should be a good choice
08:59 magnuse either that or just mysqldump
08:59 glernil using the built in script in the package?
08:58 magnuse but of course, make sure you do a backup of the database first!
08:58 magnuse yep, all the instances should be taken care of
08:58 glernil will the upgrade affect all the instances in my machine? by the way i used koha-common package and have two koha instances
08:58 magnuse there is a script you need to run, but the packages will remind you when you upgrade
08:57 magnuse i have not tried that, but it should be fine
08:56 glernil i have 3.2.9 installed on my machine and i'm planning to upgrade to 3.4
08:55 glernil I just want to ask something about the koha debian package
08:54 wahanui bonjour, glernil
08:54 glernil hello
08:30 kf I already shared it, but it won't work :(
08:29 kf does someone know how to create a link to a saved search in bugzilla?
08:29 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6750] Guarantor search broken on translated templates <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6750>
08:26 kf fredericd++
08:24 magnuse yay!
08:23 kf :)
08:23 kf so even if we doubt the accuracy... nice trend
08:23 kf as of today lib-web-cats says there are 1399 libraries using koha - one year ago it was 1030
08:12 kf hm
07:27 kf and hi magnuse :)
07:27 magnuse see ya eythian
07:27 kf bye eythian :)
07:27 magnuse guten morgen kf
07:27 eythian bye all :)
07:26 kf hi all :)
07:25 magnuse namaste kmkale
07:24 * kmkale waves at magnuse paul_p clrh :)
07:24 kmkale Namaskar #koha
07:17 clrh hello all
07:17 clrh bonjour magnuse
07:15 paul_p hello magnuse & al
07:15 magnuse bonjour clrh et paul_p
07:13 eythian hi magnuse
07:13 magnuse ...and hi #koha
07:13 lastnode koha++
07:13 magnuse packages++
07:13 lastnode sweet!
07:13 eythian it backs up the config and the SQL. You can then run koha-restore with those files on a fresh install to put it back.
07:13 lastnode oh it will backup a sql dump?
07:12 lastnode eythian: and replacing teh db is simply a matter of replacing the file, or willthere be sql involved
07:12 lastnode oh right. thansk eythian
07:10 huginn eythian: The operation succeeded.
07:10 eythian @later tell chris_n any chance of slipping the patch on bug 6275 into 3.4?
07:09 eythian 3.6 probably, it might go into 3.4
07:09 lastnode soon as in 3.5?
07:09 lastnode oh right, that's nic eythian
07:09 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6129] ISSN url param for serialssolutions.com <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6129>
06:47 eythian which you can then rsync off-site
06:47 eythian lastnode: if you're using the packages, they'll soon do daily backups of the database.
06:45 julian hello #koha
06:44 cait ok, have to go to - brb :)
06:43 lastnode brb
06:43 lastnode thanks again!
06:43 lastnode in any case, i guess i should detail all that and send to the koha list
06:43 reiveune hello
06:42 lastnode and rest easy
06:42 lastnode so i can just do a daily clone of each vm
06:42 lastnode so that's why im considering vms
06:42 lastnode and i dont want to lose the data haha
06:42 lastnode because of the data. IANA sysadmin
06:42 lastnode im apprehensive of setting ti up
06:41 cait I am supporting smaller libraries mostly
06:41 cait I get not a lot of questions about how to use features
06:41 lastnode for a new user
06:41 lastnode can be quite intimidating
06:41 lastnode it's just that even with fast add the adding record page
06:41 cait it has a lot of features, but we think it's quite intuitive to use
06:41 lastnode that's true
06:41 eythian well, you don't have to use all the bits :)
06:40 lastnode but it will grow, so i think koha is the way to go, due to it being FOSS and havign a strng userbase/community
06:40 lastnode my biggest concern is that koha might be overkill for what we wanna do. it's a small school, with 3k books atm
06:40 cait but don't ask me how to add one...
06:40 cait when a page has no category, so I was told
06:40 cait ah yes, ourmediawiki does that
06:39 lastnode ill check it out, thanks guys
06:39 lastnode but the guide looks good
06:39 lastnode mediawiki looks broken to me in FF5
06:39 cait the pakban link might be the older version
06:39 cait Brooke updated the wiki page for 3.2 I think so it should still be quite ok
06:39 eythian but it might be OK as a starter.
06:39 eythian lastnode: it seems out of date, but it's hard to say as it has no version numbers referenced.
06:38 * lastnode looks
06:38 lastnode that one
06:38 lastnode oh
06:38 lastnode and i was told http://www.pakban.net/koha/tut/newbie.html is out of date
06:38 wahanui OK, cait.
06:38 cait wahanui: newbie guide is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Newbie_guide
06:38 lastnode ok, how do i do that? http://opensource.califa.org/koha_training is broken
06:37 cait lastnode: oh, you should report that to liz or nengard
06:37 wahanui OK, eythian.
06:37 eythian wahanui: moth apples is <reply>Moth apples are smaller than crab apples, sweeter too. Don't be tempted to eat them, as they are highly explosive.
06:37 cait beginners guide?
06:37 lastnode but one link is broken
06:37 cait there is also a guide from brooke that might be helpful
06:37 lastnode and ive also linked to some of the video tutorials
06:37 cait ah ok
06:36 lastnode yeah ive linked to the main categories from there
06:36 cait there is the english user manual
06:36 wahanui i guess documentation is at http://koha-community.org/documentation/
06:36 cait documentation?
06:36 lastnode using it cait
06:36 eythian here we tend to run koha and zebra in a vm, but with a dedicated database server.
06:36 cait lastnode: for installing koha? or using it?
06:36 lastnode but im looking for a general overview of koha froma non-tech librarian's POV
06:36 cait we do that too :)
06:36 lastnode also, i think i aksed this yesterday, but what is the most non-technical howto doc koha has? ive been through thirdy party doc links etc. and sent the librarian a few
06:36 eythian lastnode: vms are fine, just be ensure that they have enough performance to run mysql and zebra
06:35 lastnode im considering running koha in a vm since backups and stuff are a lot easier
06:35 eythian :D
06:35 cait grrr
06:35 wahanui okay, eythian.
06:35 eythian no wahanui, germs is <reply>Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world.
06:35 lastnode thanks,ill drop an email after work today
06:35 wahanui ...but germs is <reply>...
06:35 eythian wahanui: germs is <reply>Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world.
06:34 wahanui OK, eythian.
06:34 eythian wahanui: the main list is at http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
06:34 cait eythian: hmpf!
06:34 wahanui :)
06:34 cait wahanui botsnack cookie
06:34 cait and cookies
06:34 lastnode well bots deserve tahnks, too!
06:33 lastnode oh my bad
06:33 lastnode the main list - http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha ?
06:33 cait lastnode: wahanui is our bot :)
06:33 eythian cait: the germ this is the Truth! Why are you suppressing it?!
06:33 cait it's ok wahanui
06:33 wahanui cait: i'm not following you...
06:33 cait wahanui has the link for you :)
06:33 wahanui rumour has it i am a repository of important and useful and accurate information
06:33 lastnode and wahanui
06:33 lastnode thanks eythian
06:33 wahanui mailing lists are at http://koha-community.org/support/koha-mailing-lists/
06:33 cait mailing lists?
06:33 cait mailinglists?
06:33 eythian lastnode: the regular koha list
06:32 cait eythian: I still remember the germ thing!
06:32 lastnode is there a mailing list i can use for that?
06:32 lastnode id like to outline a technical setup i have in mind and get some feedback from you guys
06:31 lastnode ive shown the librarian and she seems imperssed
06:31 lastnode hi, i dunno if some of you remember me, but I'm an English teacher from Colombo, Sri Lanka who is trying to pitch Koha to his school administration
06:31 eythian the best influence I think you mean!
06:29 cait although I really doubt that you are a good influence on wahanui
06:28 * cait spends to much time with boolean algebra lately
06:28 cait or means both can be true
06:20 wahanui eythian: huh?
06:20 eythian wahanui: why can't it be both‽
06:20 eythian hiya
06:20 alex_a and all
06:20 wahanui hmmm... eythian is in NZ. ;) or a good influence
06:20 alex_a and eythian
06:20 alex_a hello cait
06:17 cait bonjour alex_a and hdl
06:10 eythian hello :)
06:09 cait and hi robin :)
06:09 cait y
06:09 cait but I hope he will be better toda
06:09 cait you can still do that in 2 weeks
06:06 alex_a bonjour #koha
06:05 eythian oh, is it. Damn, rangi and I were thinking of finding a pub with free wifi and knocking off a bunch of them, but I don't know if he'll be in tomorrow.
06:04 cait hope a lot of things will get signed off
06:03 cait tomorrow is gbsd
06:03 cait ok
06:03 fredericd Ok. If I can't fix 6750, I will leave a comment on BZ
06:03 cait and perhaps apply all of them at one and see what's still missing
06:03 cait planning to sign-off on owen's patches
06:02 cait fredericd: i can try to do so tomororw
06:02 fredericd for 6750, I don't know, I take a look
06:02 fredericd Could you do a synthesis of the work in progress on the templates bug? what have been done, what have to be done
06:02 cait can you fix it?
06:00 fredericd the issue comes from a complex JS
06:00 cait fredericd: the first few results that have no patch are some of those
06:00 fredericd It won't work in this case, even it's a related bug
06:00 cait fredericd: also the test is complaining about some things I don't know how to fix
05:59 cait i thought fixing the translation processing bug would perhap fix it - but I see the file for the search itself is not in the list
05:58 cait fredericd: not yet
05:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6750 critical, P5, ---, frederic, NEW , Guarantor search broken on translated templates
05:58 fredericd cait: Are you invistigating a solution for bug 6750?
05:35 cait good morning #koha
05:22 eythian http://www.myacpl.org/koha/?p=160 <-- customising the OPAC using CSS and JS
05:22 Judit no that is notnormal
05:22 Judit light breeze :D
05:22 eythian heh. Yeah, I hear the winds didn't even get to 100km/h, so really just light breezes.
05:22 Judit made me think of you :D
05:21 Judit have you seen this: http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/5521175/Hurricane-Irene-just-like-Wellington
05:21 Judit thanks
05:21 eythian and that's a significant amount of work.
05:21 eythian or, would need to be implemented fromt he ground up
05:21 eythian And it may require building some way of translating editable messages, which is pretty messy.
05:20 eythian I don't know. In a simple way, an hour or two, but I'd like to run it by other people, as it wouldn't work with multiple languages very well.
05:19 Judit and to do the syspref?
05:19 eythian no, to do it with javascript
05:19 Judit ?
05:19 Judit do make a syspref
05:19 Judit :D
05:19 eythian 10 minutes
05:19 Judit :)
05:19 Judit how much work approx
05:19 eythian it'll work pretty much fine with javascript.
05:18 eythian yep
05:18 Judit just not nice
05:18 Judit so it is doable
05:18 eythian Well, actually, ideally you'd make it understand languages.
05:18 eythian it works mostly. Unless the person doesn't have JS turned on. But it's just not a very nice solution. A syspref or similar would be nicer.
05:17 Judit not great?
05:17 eythian I think the standard is to rewrite it with Javascript, which isn't a great solution.
05:16 eythian there ought to be, and it wouldn't be hard to do.
05:16 eythian I don't think so
05:13 Judit there is no syspref is there?
05:13 Judit " text
05:13 Judit is there an easy way to change on the /cgi-bin/koha/opac-user.pl the "If you don't have a password yet, stop by the circulation desk the next time you're in the library. We'll happily set one up for you.
05:13 wahanui que tal, Judit
05:13 Judit hi
03:36 eythian it is very much
03:32 druthb It's the modern version of putting the cookies right next to the checkout at the grocery...
03:27 eythian The android market makes it a little too easy.
03:27 druthb it is a clever scheme, eythian.
03:26 eythian I'm starting to develop a problem with o'Reilly ebooks. I keep buying them every time I encounter something I need to know about. It's a fiendish scheme they've got going on.
03:25 druthb o/
02:29 eythian bye
02:27 Agent_Dani Anyhow, that's my hour of free time for today. Goodnight!
02:25 Agent_Dani At least specific managers, and I will consider going over my managers head if that becomes necessary, e.g. when I need to take Calculus which I cannot do outside of my usual work schedule.
02:24 Agent_Dani Not so much this place.
02:24 eythian I thought a uni would be good with, y'know, uni.
02:24 eythian ah, that's surprising then.
02:23 * Agent_Dani notes here that she is employed by the uni in question.
02:23 Agent_Dani I.e. I couldn't get any flexibility in my 07:00-15:00 hours even with a 19:30-20:45 class.
02:22 Agent_Dani Not helping is that my employer is quite inflexible about this.
02:21 * Agent_Dani nods
02:21 eythian Yeah, you could probably get away with 1/4th-1/2 of a regular course maybe. When I was doing it, it was postgrad which was a mixed blessing.
02:20 Agent_Dani Right now I'm doing only one class per semester so it isn't costing me tuition, but I'll probably consider changing that in the future so it doesn't take 10 years to complete my BS.
02:20 Agent_Dani That's my weakness but I am working on it.
02:19 eythian (I'm not)
02:19 eythian I don't really recommend it unless you're really good at time management
02:18 eythian I did that for a while
02:18 Agent_Dani The thing in question is attending uni while working full-time.
02:18 Agent_Dani talljoy_away: hehe
02:17 talljoy_away Agent_Dani: fake it until you make it
02:05 Agent_Dani Ah, there's the lettle satyr on the other shoulder!
02:04 eythian does that help?
02:04 eythian ITS GOING TO ALL GO HORRIBLY WRONG
02:02 * Agent_Dani is trying to convince herself that she's doing The Right Thing.
01:56 talljoy_away lol
01:41 Agent_Dani Yeah, that's me. ;)
01:41 eythian yoyo
01:41 Agent_Dani oy
01:38 talljoy_away yo