Time Nick Message 21:48 rangi hmm what to do today 21:37 * larryb is away: 21:35 cait bye all :) 21:16 jcamins_away That's also the day that C & P was officially incorporated. 21:16 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6794] Broken toggle in member-flags in ie <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6794> 21:16 jcamins_away Errr... only briefly. 21:13 wizzyrea oy 21:13 wizzyrea lol 21:13 wizzyrea last year 21:13 jcamins_away "So what did you do for your first anniversary?" "Well, we rearranged our apartment to get everything away from the windows." 21:13 wizzyrea weren't you working on the day of your wedding :P 21:13 wizzyrea the 27th? 21:13 jcamins_away Yeah. At least it'll be memorable. 21:12 wizzyrea bummer about the anniversary 21:12 jcamins_away rhcl: yeah, but possibly not through the pipes! 21:12 wizzyrea yepper 21:12 rangi done 21:12 rhcl jcamins_away: aren't you in an area that's likely to be getting plenty of running water soon? 21:11 jcamins_away Does my message about us not being in an evacuation zone show in Google+ for anyone? 21:10 jcamins_away I did not. 21:09 wizzyrea you know bill gates has an initiative to design a better toilet 21:09 wizzyrea ^^ truth 21:09 jcamins_away For the record, toilets that can't be flushed unless you have running water are a dumb idea. 21:04 rangi dang nabbit 21:04 wizzyrea it's certainly being poky 21:03 rangi hmm is git.kc being annoying again? 21:03 pelletiermaxime yeah, I know 21:03 wizzyrea the one in use in 3.2 21:03 wizzyrea html::template::pro, the old template system 21:03 pelletiermaxime ? 21:02 wizzyrea except that it's HTP 21:02 pelletiermaxime rangi: thanks =) 21:02 pelletiermaxime rangi: yeah i know 21:02 rangi ill rework it for template::toolkit (3.2 is end of life so we wont be doing any more releases for that but its good cos it shows how to fix it for 3.4/3.6 too) 21:02 wizzyrea nothing about that immediately calls out to me as wrong. 20:35 cait hehe 20:05 cait sekjal++ #thx for testing :) 20:02 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6019] Using memoize_memcached to cache slow subroutines <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6019> 20:02 rhcl should be about time for bg to wake up? 20:02 huginn rhcl: bg was last seen in #koha 20 hours, 47 minutes, and 48 seconds ago: <bg> ;) 20:02 rhcl @seen bg 20:01 sekjal brb 19:50 wizzyrea ping jcamins_away 19:50 wizzyrea idk about jcamins 19:50 wizzyrea are you gonna, as they say, get out of dodge? 19:50 sekjal but it's not sounding like anywhere else is much safer 19:50 wizzyrea heh 19:49 sekjal tornadoes, earthquakes and hurricanes, all in short succession... maybe Western Mass isn't the safest place to live anymore... 19:48 wizzyrea mhm 19:48 wizzyrea and in the jungle 19:48 rangi that would feel like not a lot on the surface 19:48 oleonard wizzyrea: Nothing visible, just markup changes to help translations 19:48 rangi 145km deep 19:48 rhcl jcamins is/is not (circle one) in that area ATT 19:48 wizzyrea remote tho 19:48 wizzyrea ooo, I want to check and see what you've done to memberentry :) 19:47 cait :( 19:47 wizzyrea http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/5504104/7-0-earthquake-strikes-Peru 19:47 wizzyrea !!! 19:47 * oleonard likes to keep busy 19:46 cait oleonard: and thank you! 19:45 cait oleonard: no surprise! 19:45 oleonard memberentrygen.tt was a mess. 19:45 oleonard cait: I signed off on all of yours and submitted a couple of my own 19:44 * wizzyrea either 19:44 * rangi doesnt know nyc well 19:43 rangi is that flood prone? 19:43 wizzyrea not. at. all. 19:43 rangi laurels brother lives in brooklyn 19:43 * wizzyrea does not like this at all 19:43 rangi http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/5517794/Mayor-Bloomberg-orders-NYC-evacuations 19:43 wizzyrea jesus. 19:42 rangi 300k ppl being evacuated 19:42 rangi holy crap 19:42 rangi resolved - fixed 19:42 rangi mark it resolved then please :) 19:41 pelletiermaxime rangi: fwiw I just tested it and it fixes the problem =) 19:41 cait oleonard: I had done suggestion and results on the train but lost internet connection, sent them earlier today. nothing more in the works 19:41 rangi need someone to test it, and mark it resolved, then yep 19:40 * cait whispers: I am on vacation 19:40 pelletiermaxime rangi: in all case, shouldn't this bug be closed now ? 19:40 cait not sure - have not checked all the mails yet 19:40 rangi it should be cherry-pickable though 19:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6458 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, ASSIGNED , incorrect parsing result in translation processing 19:40 oleonard cait: I hope I didn't duplicate any of your work on Bug 6458 19:40 rangi that was a week too late ;) 19:40 pelletiermaxime ah ok 19:39 rangi jun 19 was last 3.2 release 19:39 pelletiermaxime rangi: ok thx for looking 19:38 rangi pelletiermaxime: no, pushed after 3.2.x was end of lifed 19:38 wizzyrea i didn't have the backstory there 19:37 wizzyrea gotcha 19:37 rangi thats where this fix comes from 19:37 wizzyrea aha 19:37 rangi no, they solved it 19:37 wizzyrea does EG have the problem with umlauts? 19:37 wizzyrea yes 19:37 wizzyrea oh oh oh 19:37 rangi well its silly for us (eg and us) to both work on it 19:37 cait and morning rangi 19:37 cait but for now we can checkout things with umlauts :) 19:37 wizzyrea explain 19:37 rangi ill look pelletiermaxime 19:37 cait yes, it would be good 19:36 rangi we really need to get back to reconciling the SIP stuff 19:36 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6510 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, magnus, ASSIGNED , "Sort by" in intranet search alters search and number of hits 19:36 pelletiermaxime hey, was the bug 6510 ever applied to 3.2.x ? I can only find it in the 3.4.2 changelog 19:36 wizzyrea but (seriously) the best present is being friends with you people 19:36 wizzyrea I got a very pretty locket too 19:35 cait saw chris' tweet earlier 19:35 cait ah 19:35 wizzyrea 150 contributors to koha :) 19:35 cait I was busy getting sunburnt today 19:35 cait what is the other present? 19:35 cait he missed numbe 150 though, hehe 19:35 cait hehe 19:35 wizzyrea uli++ 19:35 wizzyrea uli++ 19:34 cait or uli++ 19:34 wizzyrea yaya 19:34 cait bsz is right liz :) 19:34 wizzyrea that is also a fabulous present 19:34 sekjal cait: right, his work is based of Dan Scott's, but he found it, wrote it and submitted it 19:34 wizzyrea dude 19:34 oleonard Don't say they never got you anything 19:34 wizzyrea is that right? 19:34 cait but he found it, so I still think he did great :) 19:34 wizzyrea wait 19:34 wizzyrea BSZ++ 19:34 wizzyrea OMG 19:34 sekjal it's passed QA, ready for Chris to push 19:34 cait he would want me to say it was not his fix 19:34 * wizzyrea bounces and squees 19:34 wizzyrea OMG OMG 19:34 wizzyrea OMG 19:34 rhcl sekjal: well, I though maybe they had put one on there. 19:34 sekjal cait's colleague fixed the SIP diacritics issue *elegantly* 19:33 wizzyrea diacritics?! 19:33 sekjal wizzyrea: what cait's whohoo'ing about, you should be, too 19:33 cait hi rhcl :) 19:33 sekjal rhcl: no, don't know of any Userful script that would be handy. sorry 19:33 rhcl hi cait 19:33 cait sekjal: whohoo :) 19:33 cait hi owen :) 19:33 oleonard Hi cait 19:32 sekjal sorry for disappearing; meeting 19:32 cait hi #koha 19:31 oleonard ? 19:31 rhcl NEKLS+ 19:31 rhcl whoooa. NELKS is a high-roller! 19:24 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: 6747 Checks in opac-export <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=223156ea74233122c35d16100724eddbcd69d66a> 19:21 * wizzyrea applauds rangi 19:20 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6791] editing list with apostrophe loses text <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6791> 19:18 wizzyrea ok how about now 19:17 wizzyrea sec 19:17 wizzyrea cache 19:17 wizzyrea oh wait 19:15 wizzyrea if you refresh, you may see the comment box again? 19:14 * wizzyrea looks around 19:14 oleonard You'll have to bring a birthday present though. 19:14 wizzyrea if ONLY we knew the ADMIN. 19:14 oleonard If you knew the admin she might be able to help you. 19:14 nengard wont reply 19:14 nengard k 19:14 nengard oh 19:13 oleonard You just missed it! 19:13 nengard but that comment was left yesterday 19:13 wizzyrea today is the 26th, it was posted on the 26 of july 19:13 wizzyrea no comments on posts over 30 days old 19:13 wizzyrea that's why 19:13 wizzyrea that has expired 19:12 nengard http://koha-community.org/koha-newsletter-volume-2issue-7-july-2011/comment-page-1/#respond 19:12 wahanui wizzyrea: I forgot which page 19:12 wizzyrea forget which page 19:12 wahanui which page are you thinking? 19:12 wizzyrea which page 19:12 nengard how do i leave a comment on the koha site? I'm logged in and I see the link that says 'add your comment' but no comment box to type in 19:12 * oleonard gets the popcorn 19:11 * wizzyrea watches 19:11 rangi watch me hijack a mail thread to announce it 19:09 wizzyrea that is an AWESOME present :) 19:09 rangi oh, the 150th committer to koha was on your birthday wizzyrea 18:52 wizzyrea everyone's old in the future :) 18:52 wizzyrea thank you... well I do turn 100000 to day 18:51 rangi you are already old here im afraid 18:51 rangi and happy american birthday wizzyrea 18:51 wizzyrea mornin :) 18:51 rangi morning 18:50 wizzyrea http://www.flickr.com/photos/walkingsf/6079677293/ 18:50 wizzyrea I love this sort of thing 18:41 wizzyrea thanks ^.^ 18:39 rhcl !! 18:39 rhcl OH YES! Happy Birthday wizzyrea 18:39 wizzyrea :( 18:39 wizzyrea http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/boingboing/iBag/~3/T8HgGwrfybA/hurricane-irene-as-seen-from-space-aug-26-2011.html 18:38 wizzyrea thanks :) 18:38 oleonard Happy birthday! 18:38 oleonard I guess Facebook is failing to keep up my social obligations today! 18:38 wizzyrea <3 18:37 oleonard :P 18:37 wizzyrea SNAP 18:37 wizzyrea I hear they make an internet for that. 18:37 wizzyrea is it? 18:37 oleonard Oh is it your birthday wizzyrea? 18:37 wizzyrea stupid irene. stay away from my friends! 18:37 wizzyrea i remember watching katrina come in on my birthday in 2005 too. 18:36 oleonard jinx 18:36 oleonard 2005 18:36 wizzyrea 2005, smarty 18:36 wizzyrea hrmph. 18:36 oleonard You know they make an internet for that. 18:35 wizzyrea or 2005 18:35 wizzyrea 2006? 18:35 wizzyrea what year? 18:35 wizzyrea when was hurricane katrina? 18:32 rhcl well, thank u 18:32 rhcl well 18:31 wizzyrea lol, you are strange but endearing. 18:30 rhcl Yea, but it helps me... ;) 18:30 wizzyrea no quotes necessary :P 18:29 huginn wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. 18:29 wizzyrea @later tell sekjal diacritics + 3m selfcheck = still broken 18:29 rhcl I always thought the "auto checker inner sorter thinger" (do those things have a succinct name?) was really really cool 18:28 huginn rhcl: The operation succeeded. 18:28 rhcl @later tell sekjal "Do you know if Userful has any kind of config script (send/receive/expect) on our Koha server?" 18:28 rhcl wahhh 18:28 huginn rhcl: Error: No closing quotation 18:28 rhcl @later tell sekjal "Do you know if Userful has any kind of config script (send/receive/expect) on our Koha server? 18:27 wizzyrea I think so, heh 18:27 oleonard You and your technical mumbo jumbo. 18:27 rhcl Does Envisionware still have that auto checker inner sorter thinger? 18:27 wizzyrea ah I will 18:26 larryb wizzyrea: sekjal is away right now. You might want to do a 'later' at him. 18:26 rhcl [off] I repeat our (good) intentions to take a look at Jesse's powerline and see if we can add anything to it after we get our children's learning station out the door 18:26 wizzyrea the diacritcs 18:26 wizzyrea sekjal the tech in our self check library says that it's still a problem 18:25 wizzyrea yea we are not using the print controls 18:24 rhcl yea, but I've seen their print controls--that and other things seemed to be integrated well. But that was an impression I got from seeing their systems several times back in the mid- late 2000s 18:23 wizzyrea apparently 18:23 wizzyrea envisionware is attainable for our libraries 18:23 wizzyrea no self checks or anything 18:23 wizzyrea just the software 18:23 wizzyrea well the stuff we're using isn't equipment per se 18:23 wizzyrea they won't add it as an ILS 18:23 rhcl My impression of envisionware always was that they had good equipment that seemed to work well but which was expensive 18:23 wizzyrea they're like "just use evergreen" and "define your own d*** send/expect" 18:22 wizzyrea that's cool, wish I could say I had the same experience with envisionware. 18:22 larryb So they seem anxious to get this fixed. 18:22 wizzyrea yea, you would think that 18:22 larryb Well, it's to their advantage to make their software work with as many systems as possible. 18:22 rhcl sekjal: do you know offhand what Userful uses? 18:22 wizzyrea envisionware still doesn't properly support koha 18:21 rhcl I wonder about Userful. I don't see a script by the above name. 18:21 wizzyrea cool, that's nice of them 18:21 larryb Yeah. So I'm going to send them the Koha info and they say they can get it coded in pretty quick. 18:21 wizzyrea :) 18:21 wizzyrea tell them to make it not suck. 18:21 wizzyrea that SUUUCKS 18:21 larryb wizzyrea: I spoke with Cybraryn. Their send/expect settings are coded into the software; it's not in a config file. 18:18 rhcl oh yea. I'm pretty dang "clever" :) 18:17 wizzyrea i know you're clever that way :) 18:17 rhcl ok, I'll find it. no need to look it up for me. 18:17 wizzyrea i trust that you could find it, the name is sipscript.cfg 18:17 rhcl ah. 18:17 rhcl ah. 18:17 wizzyrea it's in the envisionware folder 18:17 wizzyrea right 18:17 rhcl ah, so apparently it's on the Koha server somewhere? --not client side? 18:16 wizzyrea hrmph. 18:16 wizzyrea I would have this sent already except google docs is broken. 18:16 wizzyrea arg, lol, let me look up the path 18:16 rhcl wizzyrea: where does envisionware keep the send/expect script? 18:08 hankbank :) well alright then! 18:07 wizzyrea I do, it's why I like you. 18:07 hankbank tho' you do know that I am a cantankerous sort of creature? Do you not? :) 18:06 wizzyrea excellent, thanks :D 18:06 hankbank I will add my contribution to the collective wisdom :) 18:06 hankbank ok 18:05 wizzyrea i'd love it if you added them to the wiki :) 18:05 hankbank many 18:05 wizzyrea :) 18:05 wizzyrea I wonder if you have any thoughts on http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Gamifying_the_ILS 18:05 hankbank hi wizzyrea 18:05 wizzyrea hi hankbank :) 18:04 wizzyrea i will ask right now 18:04 wizzyrea good question, I don't know 18:01 sekjal wizzyrea: are you still having problems with SIP and diacritics in titles? 17:49 larryb That may. Thanks. 17:48 wizzyrea I can send you the contents of our file for envisionware, if that would help 17:48 larryb Yeah, I'm hoping that's all that's needed. 17:48 wizzyrea and you put the send/expects in there 17:48 larryb I do not. That's why I want to get a copy of it. 17:47 wizzyrea sipscript.cfg 17:47 wizzyrea like, envisionware has a file 17:47 wizzyrea do you know does cybrarian have a place to define the send/expect? 17:47 wizzyrea ok so it's not that, that's good :) 17:47 larryb yep. 17:47 wizzyrea (another obvious one) and the passwords are the same? 17:47 larryb yeah, that's always the first thing I check too. 17:46 wizzyrea ok cool, I always have to ask 17:46 larryb Yep. 17:46 wizzyrea ? 17:46 wizzyrea the sip user is defined both in the sipconfig *and* has a patron/staff account on the web interface, with circulate permissions 17:45 wizzyrea ok, and just to verify 17:45 larryb can't log in. 17:45 wizzyrea or can log in, but other stuff isn't working 17:45 larryb Yeah. 17:45 wizzyrea can't log in? 17:45 wizzyrea question, how is it not working? 17:45 larryb I'm going to see if I can get a demo of their software to play with. 17:45 wizzyrea (they are for envisionware) 17:45 wizzyrea are those plaintext definitions, can we look at them? 17:44 larryb hmm indeed. Sounds like it ought to work. 17:44 wizzyrea because we use the evergreen definitions with Envisionware 17:44 wizzyrea hmm 17:44 larryb That's what they're using now, but it's not working. 17:44 wizzyrea as the configuration 17:43 wizzyrea have you tried using evergreen? 17:43 wizzyrea OH 17:43 larryb I think they have most of the commercial vendors, plus evergreen. 17:43 wizzyrea does cybrarian have an example of one that works with say, sirsi? 17:43 wizzyrea aha, so something like a send/expect script 17:42 larryb Well, it looks from our SIP logs like their software isn't sending what KOHA SIP expects, or it's not getting back what it needs. 17:42 * wizzyrea has done some work like this with envisionware 17:41 wizzyrea well what settings does cybrarian need 17:41 larryb Oh well. 17:41 larryb I've heard they're willing to create one, but I was hoping to save some time. 17:39 wizzyrea ooo I haven't had the pleasure of working with cybrarian 17:38 larryb They don't seem to have preconfigured settings for Koha yet, but I wondered if anyone's gotten it to work. 17:38 larryb Is anyone using the PC Reservation System from Cybrarian, talking to their SIP server? 17:37 wizzyrea shoot 17:37 larryb I have a quick question for the community. 17:37 wizzyrea hi larry :D 17:37 larryb Hello Koha 17:22 wizzyrea whaddup peeps 17:16 rhcl yep, time for lunch here too... 17:16 rhcl :) 17:16 oleonard Back shortly, need lunch. 17:16 libsysguy I'll make sure and put that in the Wiki and bug ticket 17:15 libsysguy Even better :) 17:15 rhcl :) 17:15 rhcl Task forces are typically named then postpended with greek letters. Notification Force 12 would therefore (typically) be Notification Force Μμ (Mu, the 12th letter of the Greek alphabet) 17:12 libsysguy maybe we can call it notification force 12 17:12 rhcl np 17:12 libsysguy I guess we are going to form some kind of task force 17:10 libsysguy I'll keep that in mind 17:09 libsysguy rhcl sorry it took so long for me to get back 16:56 hdl Is there no script for import deletion ? 16:51 nengard well that's good ... and bad 16:51 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6792 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Lists pagination menu disappears after list deletion 16:51 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6791 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , editing list with apostrophe loses text 16:51 oleonard Bug 6791, Bug 6792 16:51 nengard :) 16:51 oleonard nengard: Looks like you and I each discovered a new lists bug just from testing 5524. 16:49 hdl I thought wiki could be a friendlier place 16:49 hdl If you want to send patches, feel free to do so. 16:47 hdl for testing purpose 16:47 hdl we also have data.git on git.biblibre.com to share a sql file. 16:47 oleonard The lists could be shared, as long as they were empty. 16:46 nengard yeah, but I have my own personal collection in my Koha :) 16:46 hdl we could have a standard sql database shared on the wiki to make tests easier. 16:46 nengard :) 16:44 * oleonard previously created many lists for just this kind of test 16:40 nengard I'll test another 16:40 nengard Still gonna add the lists so I can test other things in the future i should have some lists 16:39 nengard well go for it then :) 16:38 * oleonard was just about to test it 16:38 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5524 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , Can't delete list from second page of results 16:38 oleonard Bug 5524? 16:38 nengard trying to add 21 lists to my koha install to test a patch 16:31 hdl branch after branch 16:31 hdl We are porting that onto master. 16:30 hdl oleonard: this is a feature branch we had created for a library. 16:30 hdl We are planning to recreate all our branches on koha-community/master 16:29 wahanui that is the problem 16:29 oleonard hdl: What is that? 16:29 Oak later 16:29 hdl oleonard: see : http://git.biblibre.com/?p=koha;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/clean/cg55/ft/MT5671 16:29 Oak me go eat dinner now... 16:29 Oak good good 16:28 rhcl fine fine. same old stuff 16:28 hdl we are revamping all those branches and cleaning them in order to resend them. 16:27 Oak how is you? 16:27 oleonard How will we ever reintegrate it? 16:27 hdl and the translation process is still keeping us from deploying official Koha 16:27 Oak heya rhcl :)) 16:27 rhcl Hi Oak 16:26 hdl oleonard: i wished we could base our work on master. But there are still many bug fixes still not applied. 16:26 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6733] printing routing list sends you to main serials page <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6733> 16:26 * Oak waves 16:25 hdl And we needed a working implementation. 16:25 oleonard Is this branch based on master? 16:25 hdl But it takes time. 16:25 hdl We shall soon take time to reprocess all the tablesorter we added. 16:25 hdl is showing that it is work in progress for circulation. 16:24 hdl And the branch http://git.biblibre.com/?p=koha;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/cg55/ft/MT7516 16:24 hdl oleonard: we are working on datatables integration. 16:23 oleonard It could be a good test case. 16:23 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6086 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, alex.arnaud, ASSIGNED , adding a dynamic filter to pending holds 16:23 oleonard hdl: I asked a question in that thread that was not answered: Would Alex be willing to re-implement Bug 6086 using the datatables plugin to see if it fits that bug's requirements? 16:21 rhcl libsysguy: I think we may have some suggestions, just haven't formulated them yet. 16:21 hdl oleonard: I personnaly think that if we donot tell we are to use that tool and not that other one please consider using the first and not the latter in what you submit, then, we shall have issues... because when integrating new features, or new devs, we will end up having to reprocess things over and over. 16:19 oleonard Sorry, I was afk. hdl: I agree that tablesorter will probably go away, but if someone is submitting a patch for 3.6 they should use tablesorter. A full conversion to datatables isn't going to happen quickly. 16:16 hdl have you had some nice results ? 16:15 sekjal we are working on Koha performance as a kind of Macro Project. it takes a lot of different forms, from optimizing SQL and profiling the Perl code, to checking out different MySQL/Apache/Perl configs 16:14 hdl you said you were working on that... 16:14 sekjal hdl: in what sense? 16:14 hdl sekjal: have you solved your performance problems ? 16:11 sekjal and make those formats extensible 16:10 sekjal just specify the notice format 16:10 sekjal I'm envisioning a system that can handle plaintext emails, HTML emails, HTML printed notices, SMS, RSS, Twitter, Facebook, Google+, whatever 16:09 sekjal it's no small job, and I can understand folks being wary of stepping into it, but it's definitely going to be worth it 16:07 libsysguy yeah I'd really like to get things moving on it too. After the first two replies I was afraid nobody shared my sentiments 16:07 sekjal libsysguy: cool. you'd hit on things I've been thinking about for a while, so I figured now would be a good time to start laying them out and getting the ball rolling 16:06 libsysguy you basically laid out what I wanted to say 16:05 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6790] C4::Serials::getroutinglist returns unnecessary variable <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6790> 16:05 libsysguy hey sekjal, I just wanted to say thanks for replying to my RFC 16:01 reiveune bye 15:59 sekjal it's going well now, so I'm not too concerned. should make my QA process a little easier 15:58 slef might be a bug 15:58 slef line 859 is if self.bz_user and self.bz_password: 15:57 slef not necessarily.... reading the code, I think it should have got it from your firefox if it didn't have both :-/ 15:56 sekjal PEBKAC 15:56 sekjal works now 15:55 * slef rereads his hack 15:55 sekjal thought I'd done that... must be going crazy 15:55 sekjal hadn't set the password, just the username 15:55 slef I don't remember if I culled the firefox-ripping stuff but the git config one will work anyway. 15:54 sekjal ah, there we go 15:54 slef bz-tracker.bugs.koha-community.org.bz-user and bz-tracker.bugs.koha-community.org.bz-password 15:53 wahanui somebody said git-bz was at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Git_bz_configuration 15:53 slef git-bz? 15:53 slef sekjal: have you set the git config vars? 15:53 sekjal slef: cloned from your gitorious repo 15:53 slef "There is no such place as the University of Wis-cosine, and if there was, the motto of their mathematics department would not be "Secant ye shall find."" 15:52 slef sekjal: which git-bz are you using? ;-) 15:51 rhcl sekjal: bad cookie cached? Clear all cookies and restart? Use private browsing? 15:46 * magnuse imagines kohacon12 + a trip to islay... 15:45 magnuse slef: i think that's a very good start! i would probably wait and see if the competition adds more info before i put more effort into it... 15:45 hdl and if I may say, BibLibre once considered tablesorter a nice tool. But with experience, it is not so good. 15:44 sekjal git-bz question: on Ubuntu 11.04, running Firefox 6.0, my cookie doesn't seem to be setting properly, even though I've logged into bugs.koha-community.org on this machine 15:44 hdl and information 15:44 hdl And If someone is to begin a new dev, he should be provided the best tools. 15:43 hdl Because the usage of tablesorter has proven to be quite hard to maintain. 15:43 slef magnuse: I'm tempted to post only the kohacon summary table info unless anyone has questions. Do you think that's OK? 15:43 hdl slef: at least, i would prefer that a person investigate on datatables rather than tablesorter. 15:42 hdl on jquery lists, see http://git.biblibre.com/?p=koha;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/cg55/ft/MT7516 15:42 slef but more that datatables is a better option, not that tablesorter is deprecated? 15:42 slef oleonard and chris_n were both in favour 15:41 magnuse ;-) 15:41 magnuse haha! 15:41 slef yeah just got there list 2s before you ;) 15:41 magnuse probably this thread: http://lists.koha-community.org/pipermail/koha-devel/2011-August/036055.html 15:40 slef ah. I was looking at jquery lists 15:40 hdl thread initiated by paul 15:39 hdl On koha-devel 15:39 slef hdl: which recent thread? 15:39 hdl datatables.net is far easier. 15:39 hdl tablesorter is quite a burden to maintain and require the whole table to be loaded into the page iirc... 15:38 hdl See a recent thread. 15:38 hdl Barrc: oleonard... tablesorter should be considered as deprecated in favor of datatables.net 15:32 magnuse edinburgh? cool! 15:32 magnuse slef++ 15:21 slef updated http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Proposals_for_KohaCon12#Summary_Table with as much as I know. Why does everyone go on holiday in August? ;-) 15:07 Barrc which will add the tablesorter to a new page - if it's accepted! 15:06 Barrc I am just working on a new feature (RFC) to follow.... 15:05 oleonard Barrc: Are you wanting to submit a patch to add the tablesorter somewhere? 15:05 oleonard http://tablesorter.com/ 15:03 Barrc Splendid! Thanks 15:03 oleonard Clickable headers 15:03 Barrc Yep, great. Does it allow for user sort? 15:02 oleonard Barrc: We use a JavaScript plugin to sort HTML tables in the interface if that's what you mean 15:01 Barrc Hey all - does anyone know off hand if there is a script in 3.4x that will table sort column headers in an outputted table? I can write one but no point reinventing the wheel! 14:56 rhcl That's about like my normal sleep--I always sleep poorly. 14:52 Agent_Dani Got paged about 2 hours after I fell asleep and ended-up awake for about two hours...alarm went off 2.5 hours later. 14:52 * Agent_Dani sympathizes. 14:47 oleonard \O/ <-- yawn and stretch 14:44 * Agent_Dani is full of yawns today. 14:44 Agent_Dani \O 14:35 rhcl Koha Kenya -- Kool 14:27 sekjal hdl: not yet 14:26 hdl sekjal: have you seen the C4::Mailer branch ? 13:31 sekjal libsysguy hit on a topic I've been thinking about for a while 13:30 sekjal hi, oleonard, magnuse. Yes, yes I do 13:29 magnuse sekjal++ 13:29 oleonard You have a lot to say about notifications :) 13:29 oleonard Hi sekjal 12:47 * oleonard ponders the origin of the mysterious "dev" tree 12:44 magnuse but why would pushing the patches around lead yuo to trim branches, i wonder? so they won't make shade for the patches? 12:43 magnuse heh, yeah, i was just thinking about the branches 12:42 oleonard I suppose so... "patches" could refer to patches of something growing 12:42 magnuse a norwegian library just announced a position as "pop & rock librarian" :-) 12:41 magnuse doing some gardening, eh? 12:40 magnuse hehe 12:40 magnuse yay 12:40 * oleonard happily realizes that last sentence is completely nonsensical in standard English 12:39 * oleonard happily trims his dev branches for the patches pushed yesterday 12:34 * magnuse has made pizza dough 12:33 * oleonard starts rearranging the pots and pans 12:33 oleonard I guess so 12:31 magnuse ssh, it's quiet friday today... ;-) 12:24 oleonard Hi #koha 11:13 druthb o/ 10:03 rangi http://www.nzhistory.net.nz/politics/labour-day 10:03 rangi yeah not may day 09:58 slef fourth Monday in October 09:58 * slef looks to see when NZ thinks Labour day is 09:58 slef Labour day is 1 May. Surely you have Xmas and New Year before that? 09:57 slef Monday is our late summer bank holiday. Not sure if there's any more reason to it than that. 09:27 rangi im pretty sure labour day is our next one 09:26 wahanui it has been said that monday is better 09:26 rangi whats monday? 09:25 rangi dont think so 09:25 slef monday not a holiday for you? 09:15 rangi but i could get one set up on monday 09:14 rangi our staging server isnt accessible to the world 09:13 rangi yep it might be possible with the tarball version too, you just cant run anything but itk with the packages, because it suexecs 09:09 slef I think choice of which apache2 (mpm-itk or whatever) is possible with release koha-httpd.conf too. I'm pretty sure we've got different models on different servers. 09:08 slef Do you have a test server that you wouldn't mind me running the vuln test on? I promise not to run the exploit itself 09:02 rangi and no problems that i heard of 09:02 rangi because it uses a different apache2, (mpm-itk) and splits things out into different places 08:57 slef rangi: did your sysadmins have any problems with it and why is the package koha-httpd.conf different in any way that matters? (debian/templates/apache-*conf right?) 08:51 slef hmm :-/ 08:38 rangi also we run the packages, so our koha-httpd.conf is a bit different 08:35 rangi the sysadmins take care of that stuff 08:33 magnuse :-) 08:32 slef feel free to msg if you prefer 08:32 magnuse hm, answering that in a publicly logged channel might not be a good idea... 08:31 slef magnuse, rangi: have you secured your Koha servers against the recently-published apache DoS and did you have any problems doing so? (Yes, we're secured now, but something struck me as a bit odd and I just spent a while without getting to the bottom of it. I'm wondering about koha-httpd.conf) 08:31 magnuse kia ora slef 08:29 slef hi all 07:48 magnuse ah, yes 07:46 rangi yep, but the generating the file is a good start 07:45 magnuse hm, not sure how request-db is relevant? it saves some stuff to a file and says "Please forward it to the right person"? 07:44 magnuse papa++ then 07:42 rangi sometimes, papa is his nick 07:42 magnuse (although he's never on irc, is he?) 07:42 magnuse srdjan++ 07:41 magnuse eythian++ 07:41 magnuse liw++ 07:41 rangi take a look at the request-db option 07:41 * magnuse agrees wholeheartedly 07:41 magnuse i'm gonna try and see if i can make koha-create send the email too, with a letter template and the email as a command line option... 07:41 rangi eythian++ 07:41 rangi liw++ 07:41 rangi yeah the packages rule 07:41 rangi hehe 07:40 magnuse with the packages it takes way more time *telling* someone you set up an installation for them, than actually setting up the install 07:39 magnuse hehe 07:39 rangi but should be back soon 07:39 rangi srjan has gotten busy getting stuff ready for the rugby world cup 07:39 rangi i think we are getting pretty close with the packages 07:38 rangi awesome 07:38 magnuse when the translations are properly implemented for the packages i think i will probably expand the offer to denmark, sweden, finland, iceland... 07:36 rangi yay 07:36 magnuse 8 people signed up for my gratis koha thingy so far, and i have one more coming soon! 07:35 magnuse danielg++ # for the newsletter! 07:34 rangi yeah 07:33 magnuse yeah, and it's just 9.30 am yet... 07:32 rangi warm 07:32 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Berlin Schoenefeld, Germany is 23.0�C (9:20 AM CEST on August 26, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 19.0�C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). 07:32 rangi @wunder schonefeld germany 07:31 rangi magnuse use the airport 07:31 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 16.0�C (9:20 AM CEST on August 26, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Falling). 07:31 magnuse @wunder boo 07:30 magnuse bleh 07:30 huginn magnuse: Error: No such location could be found. 07:30 magnuse @wunder berlin, germany 07:30 huginn magnuse: Error: No such location could be found. 07:30 magnuse @wunder berlin 07:30 cait bye :) 07:30 cait supposed to be 33° today 07:30 cait going on a boat trip 07:30 cait rangi: currywurst perhaps, but no beer 07:28 magnuse friday evening, eh? 07:28 magnuse um, hi rangi! ;-) 07:27 rangi po marie magnuse 07:23 magnuse kia ora #koha 07:14 hdl hi rangi 07:09 rangi cait: whats you doing today? bratwurst and bier ? :) 07:09 rangi hi hdl and cait 06:57 hdl hi cait 06:57 hdl hi ca 06:55 cait hi all 06:49 wahanui hey, hdl 06:49 hdl hi 06:14 reiveune hello 06:00 rangi evening 05:10 francharb hi 03:51 Amit_Gupta good morning ;) 03:51 Amit_Gupta heya chris 03:36 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bumping database version <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=71925724963482c196608c016894300cdd7e0d6d> / Bug 5866 : Updated patch to speed up holds awaiting pickup <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f320582b2f0a13a1a604d353300cea3238ef72cd> 03:24 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 4893, Add an input field for Check In on main Staff Client page <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0cf959123edb87db184f6779766230f784dc52bd> / Merge remote-tracking branch 'kc/new/bug_6753' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=eac3046dd9ff107812a4b59ec8c98bede50a0132> / Follow-up fix for Bug 6753, Markup corrections and improvements for labe 03:12 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6748 - Add link to fast add framework while circulating, if a barcode is not... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=589403d2e8e48d3a64352bc527fda742a8edbba2> / Merge remote-tracking branch 'kc/new/bug_6726' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1e395ff152f1c8801500e719e19b4761781e653f> / Follow-up fix for Bug 6726 - When SMS is enabled the messaging t 02:25 rangi http://www.kiva.org/team/koha/loans 02:25 rangi in better news 02:20 rangi uh oh, someone is wrong on the internet 02:12 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5524] Can't delete list from second page of results <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5524> 01:23 * druthb chuckles. 01:22 wahanui I LIKE ALMONDS! HAVE SOME NUTS! 01:22 druthb wahanui: rangi? 01:21 wahanui druthb: I forgot druthb 01:21 druthb wahanui: forget druthb 01:21 wahanui you are trying to find one of those long dresses the Amish women wear. 01:21 druthb wahanui: druthb? 01:18 rangi hehe 01:18 druthb hehehehehe 01:18 mtj man, no one lights up a crowd of nerds like steve.b 01:17 rangi http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6ZarKIKpSA&feature=related 01:17 druthb ROFLMAO 01:17 rangi or even better 01:16 rangi http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8To-6VIJZRE 01:15 rangi ahh its even better if know you the backstory 01:15 druthb no, it just made me giggle myself silly standing on its' own two feet. 01:15 huginn druthb: The operation succeeded. Quote #149 added. 01:15 druthb @quote add mtj: DEVELOPERS!!! DEVELOPERS!!! DEVELOPERS!!! 01:14 rangi druthb: you know what thats from eh? 01:14 huginn druthb: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). 01:14 druthb @quote add mtj: DEVELOPERS!!! DEVELOPERS!!! DEVELOPERS!!! 01:13 mtj I LOVE TEHS COMPANY!!!!! 01:13 rangi throw a chair!!! 01:13 mtj DEVELOPERS!!! DEVELOPERS!!! DEVELOPERS!!! 01:12 rangi speaking speaking community hehe 01:12 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Fixing typo in history doc <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9c346e25269ada0b3fa5f5a6934986970c6b9a9f> 00:56 druthb wahoo!!!! 00:53 rangi 150 150 150 00:52 rangi :) 00:52 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: 150th developer!!! <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b6293a8e9a75135dc81f087660cf58675d61455a> / Bug 6723 : import-framework-crlf <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=07838bfcb16bf329bbc4953dff5b624005a8a734> / Bug 6721 - improve searching in the acquisitions system <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=54d38461f043770e3a980b7ab40ce1d5705c 00:45 druthb :D hi, rangi! 00:44 rangi hi druthb 00:44 druthb o/