Time Nick Message
23:52 rangi night sekjal
23:51 sekjal going to get some rest. night, #koha
23:29 sekjal better losing those than the biblionumber
23:29 sekjal anything in the file that exceeds the 1MB limit would just not be indexed... so the last few items, maybe
23:28 Brooke will it truncate summat else if you swap the caboose with the engine?
23:27 cait night all
23:20 rangi ahh
23:20 sekjal by putting all the 952s at the end
23:20 sekjal my patch just makes sure the 999$c is within the first 1MB
23:16 rangi belts and braces
23:15 sekjal I've already got the patch for the former
23:15 rangi maybe not easier
23:15 rangi the later is better
23:14 sekjal okay, so is it easier to a) alter Koha to handle this rare case, or b) fix Net::Z3950::ZOOM to use connection options?
23:14 bg ;)
23:14 bg ok gotta run
23:14 bg hmmm… very interesting
23:13 sekjal 1676 items attached in that case
23:13 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6562: Silence runtime error in reserve/request.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bb251a484fb9acbce9b162213278d7f5a49fa269> / bug 6538 update letter.pl help file <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=13fd914b086d32c69c190a6fa0279fc2b2054780> / Fix for Bug 6695 - Layout of patron category add/edit form slightly broken <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koh
23:13 bg ah
23:13 sekjal the size of the XML record output
23:13 rangi well theres the issue ;)
23:13 bg or the size of your record?
23:13 bg is that the default
23:13 bg 1.2?
23:12 sekjal 1.2 MB
23:12 sekjal HA
23:05 rangi you'd think so
23:03 sekjal shouldn't that be enough, even for a MARCXML file with 1000 item fields?
23:03 sekjal ... hmmm, but it defaults to 1MB
23:03 sekjal there is a connection attribute called maximumRecordSize
23:02 sekjal it doesn't provide an option for invoking ZOOM connection options
23:02 sekjal it's Net::Z3950::ZOOM
23:02 sekjal it's not us
23:02 sekjal I think I may see where the problem is with the many-items biblios
23:02 sekjal ah ha!
23:00 Brooke set_default was knob
23:00 sekjal have a suspension_date or suspension_interval, and then the suspension_reason
23:00 Brooke oleonard++
22:59 rangi :)
22:59 sekjal privilege "CanEnterLibrary"
22:58 Brooke bells and whistles should go off for debar
22:58 Brooke yep
22:58 Brooke I pick both because it's more work for Ian.
22:58 rangi not just a suspension
22:58 rangi its used here as 'get the hell out of hte library'
22:58 cait would be nice to make it use conditions, like overdues or has fines too
22:58 rangi restricted is more than that, and needs to be retained
22:58 wahanui it has been said that Friday is It's Friday, Friday Gotta get down on Friday
22:58 Brooke Friday?
22:57 cait configurable blocks
22:57 rangi yeah
22:56 sekjal and making some kind of suspension flag or date or whatever to temporarily pause those privileges
22:56 Brooke we can gamify that by making it a ginormous ban hammer.
22:56 sekjal setting up patron Privileges, like "CanBorrow", "CanRenew", "CanPlaceHold", etc
22:56 sekjal was yakking about this a little earlier today
22:55 * Brooke nods.
22:55 rangi woulda been really annoying if the suspension thing had killed it
22:55 Brooke it's a few levels down now
22:54 * rangi is glad you can still do that
22:54 rangi yup i remember now
22:54 sekjal there were some recent terminology changes to the templates pushed
22:54 rangi ta
22:53 sekjal "restricted"?
22:53 rangi restricted maybe?
22:53 rangi is it called something else now?
22:53 sekjal rangi: should be able to set that flag still on the borrower detail page
22:53 rangi can't i do that anymore?
22:53 Brooke lemme go see if I can figger it
22:53 rangi but thats what the debar used to be before, before it got hijacked
22:53 Brooke ;)
22:53 Brooke was the guard fresh first?
22:52 * rangi makes up a scenario
22:52 rangi cos they punched the security guard
22:52 rangi just to debar someone manually
22:52 rangi no i dont want that crap
22:52 rangi you used to be able to do it editing a patron
22:52 cait have you applied fine in days?
22:52 cait hm?
22:52 rangi how the hell do you manually debar someone now?
22:47 cait hehe
22:46 rangi that oughta do it ;)
22:46 rangi use the add multiple copies to add 3000 items
22:46 rangi get a record
22:46 rangi should be able to craft one pretty easy eh?
22:46 rangi hmmm
22:45 sekjal but the link to the biblio detail page is broken, because there is no biblionumber
22:45 Brooke if I think long enough, I might shake it out of the olde bean...
22:45 sekjal the search results appear
22:45 Brooke i think it was an academic...
22:45 sekjal I'm finding that even with -x, there are issues
22:45 rangi i could well be wrong though
22:45 Brooke it was a serial thing...
22:45 Brooke someone did a long time ago when animals could talk
22:44 rangi i thought if we used -x .. we were ok with that?
22:44 Brooke hmmm
22:44 rangi not on me
22:44 sekjal does anyone have a Koha DB with a biblio with so many items that it breaks MARC size restrictions?
22:37 Brooke whops eaux
22:33 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Follow-up to Bug 4868, Improve controls for cloning and deleting subfields <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7b2cd8e636a5b2eda0c405c2198eb09c2c35e22c> / Bug 6690: If multiple issues are received in serials-edit.pl, changing the status... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4e44667cd6737299a0fa524b4d84258dacd2c1c4> / Bug 6727 - Change on exporting and importing csv
22:33 wahanui i guess Brooke is absolutely convinced
22:33 cait Brooke?
22:33 cait and anja wants to see castle charlottenburg
22:33 Brooke baton mouche ftw
22:32 cait perhaps a boat tour
22:32 cait we are planning right now
22:31 rangi ?
22:31 rangi what are you doing tomorrow
22:31 rangi ahh
22:31 cait but there were too many people
22:31 cait we wanted to do the television tower(?)
22:28 rangi :)
22:27 cait oh, and brandenburger tor
22:27 cait were at a musical and I hadmy first frozen yoghurt :)
22:27 cait we did a guided bus tour, visited the dali museum
22:27 rangi hehe
22:27 cait nah nice
22:27 cait big :)
22:23 rangi hows berlin?
22:23 cait hi rangi
22:22 rangi heya cait
22:22 cait hi Brooke, hi all :)
22:21 Brooke cait :D
22:18 rhcl ltr
22:18 Brooke cheers
22:18 rangi cya later
22:18 gmcharlt heading home, laters
22:18 gmcharlt :)
22:16 Brooke I thought it was just by numerous performance upgrades with an empty brag log.
22:13 gmcharlt how to tell that gmcharlt has logged on to your server: check the sh history for "set -o vi"
22:13 gmcharlt heh
22:12 rhcl I remember having to adjust to ksh on Sirsi...
22:12 rangi zsh
22:11 gmcharlt at least make it tcsh
22:11 gmcharlt you wound me, sir
22:11 gmcharlt ouch
22:10 rhcl I was going to suggest csh instead of sh
22:10 rhcl hehe
22:10 gmcharlt rhcl: no worries, it's a good sign that everybody else isn't crazy ;)
22:09 rhcl Five minutes of total silence. Guess gmcharlt is on his own?
22:03 gmcharlt hey, how about we rewrite all boot scripts in Perl ... who's with me?!?!
22:03 * Brooke hands galen a slice of raisin cake.
22:03 Brooke there there
22:02 Brooke gmcharlt++
22:02 * gmcharlt 's brain is hurt - I *hate* looking sh's bizarre notion of quoting and conditional statement syntax
22:02 rangi gmcharlt++
22:02 rangi yay
22:02 sekjal thanks, gmcharlt!
22:01 gmcharlt sekjal: bg: ok, /etc/init.d/git-daemon munged so that git-daemon should start up properly the next time that the box is restarted
22:00 Brooke It's a sticky thing like the label stuff.
22:00 Brooke I'm surprised that hasn't been stitched in. It's one of those things.
21:59 rhcl Brooke: yes, something for time allocation on public computers
21:59 rangi [off] the best ones usually are
21:59 rhcl [off] My tech assistant is quite a good programmer, but alarm clock challenged.
21:59 Brooke you mean like reservation junk?
21:58 rhcl [off] After this, which is pretty quickly getting to a release point, we really want to take a look at a public access computing solution. Considering Jesse's powerline as a starting point.
21:58 jcamins Good night, #koha
21:58 jcamins Time to call it a day.
21:58 rangi so it does
21:57 gmcharlt ok, seems happier now
21:57 rangi for an opinion
21:57 rangi but you could ask someone like bradley kuhn or someone else at sflc
21:57 rhcl ack
21:57 rangi i think probably gplv3+ still
21:56 rhcl The actual content is all online from commercial/proprietary/copyrighted sources like PBS Kids and Nickelodeon. Perfectly willing to discuss this if desired...
21:56 rangi sweet
21:55 rhcl The clients only run a very simple py script which calls everything it needs from the webwerver. That way any changes are made in just one place and updates are very simple and easy. Uses MySql.
21:54 rangi right but the client software has to be installed on the client machines right? thus being distributed
21:52 rhcl We do have a very simple server which serves up the web page used by the clients.
21:52 rangi would be my choice
21:52 rangi GPLv3+
21:52 rhcl Input noted from Brooke. And yes, a bit sloppy but ment 3+.
21:52 gmcharlt + is the way to go
21:52 rangi hmm its not something youd use as a SaaS thing eh?
21:52 gmcharlt there's rarely a good reason to pin to a single GPL version
21:52 jcamins But I have no opinion, I'm just commenting on the choice of 3 versus 3+.
21:51 jcamins I'd say 3+ instead of 3.
21:51 Brooke I say 3. Cause it's bettah.
21:50 rhcl rangi: we're really doing quite well with our children's computer project. Should we release it as straight GPL 3, skipping the 2+ ? AGPL?
21:50 Brooke all PEI schools on Koha++
21:49 rangi yay! newsletter
21:48 * gmcharlt starts digging
21:48 rangi nope, still spazzing out
21:47 gmcharlt I've bounced it, better now?
21:46 sekjal okay, git-daemon must not be running right
21:45 wizzyrea ya
21:44 rangi yup
21:44 Brooke 0/
21:44 rangi sup brooke
21:44 sekjal fetching on git://, right?
21:43 wizzyrea can't fetch.
21:43 wizzyrea i have the same problem
21:43 * wizzyrea checks fetch
21:43 rangi cant fetch
21:43 rangi i pushed ok
21:43 rangi hmm
21:42 aarkerio gracias otra vez
21:41 sekjal rangi: server has resources available, and git-daemon appears to be running
21:40 rangi http://es.koha-community.org/documentacion/manual-de-koha-3-2-en-espanol/
21:39 rangi http://es.koha-community.org/ ?
21:39 rangi oh and have you seen the espanol site?
21:39 aarkerio rangi, gracias!!
21:38 ketchup is it safe to come out now?
21:36 rangi thanks
21:35 sekjal rangi: checking
21:35 * magnuse wishes #koha a peaceful night or other time of the day
21:33 rangi aarkerio: http://koha-community.org/documentation/3-4-manual-en/ might help
21:32 rangi fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly
21:32 rangi rorohiko:[git/kcmaster-]:~/git/koha% git fetch
21:32 rangi sekjal: hmm or not
21:31 rangi aarkerio: have you seen the manual?
21:31 aarkerio what is a library/branch ?
21:30 sekjal rangi: gladly
21:30 rangi sekjal: thanks for the git fix
21:27 rangi heh
21:27 jcamins :D
21:27 jcamins [off] Who wants to get an offensive quote out of the CEO of S/D?
21:26 jcamins [off] What we need is a different scandal to distract everyone.
21:26 rangi yup, and delete the message
21:26 wizzyrea it is, but we would consider that spam, right?
21:25 rangi to me, its like s/d advertising symphony on the koha list
21:25 rangi its a damned if you do, damned if you dont
21:25 wizzyrea naw, lori responded
21:25 rangi otoh so does not responding
21:24 wizzyrea responding gives it power
21:24 wizzyrea do not give this power.
21:24 wizzyrea let's hope others do too
21:24 wizzyrea yep
21:24 rangi yep ill just leave it at lori's reply
21:24 * jcamins just didn't know what "unified git repository" meant.
21:24 * jcamins isn't.
21:23 wizzyrea do not bite on this.
21:23 wizzyrea i'm completely serious
21:23 rangi yeah one big pile of shit
21:23 sekjal "unified git repository" means no branches
21:23 rangi i bet they arent, theirs is still html::template pro
21:23 rhcl rangi can has a flat cookie. and Sanka
21:23 rangi naw
21:23 jcamins Does "unified git repository" mean that they're reconciling Koha and LibLime Koha?
21:23 sekjal too late; Lori's replied
21:23 rangi otherwise go play on your own list
21:22 rangi :)
21:22 rangi how about thanks and will you be submitting patches to Koha?
21:22 wizzyrea um, best to say thanks and let it die?
21:20 jcamins That's the intonation I was going for.
21:20 wizzyrea deep breaths
21:20 rangi :)
21:20 jcamins Picture Captain Reynolds from Firefly saying "Huh."
21:19 jcamins s/was/wasn't
21:19 jcamins No, that was a question.
21:19 rangi koha mailing list
21:19 wizzyrea don't answer!
21:19 * wizzyrea is afraid
21:19 jcamins Huh.
21:19 rangi someone stop me replying to amy
21:19 wizzyrea !!
21:18 rangi goddamnit
21:11 rhcl I'll just send you the whole box. There's only about 6 oz of sugar in each little drop. Exactly what I need.
21:09 wizzyrea *giggle*
21:09 wizzyrea only if rhcl gets a successful cookie out of the deal
21:09 wizzyrea ohsnap
21:09 jcamins I was just pointing out my suggestion so that I can claim experience for it on chorewars. ;)
21:09 jcamins No, it's a good idea. ;)
21:09 wizzyrea sorry
21:09 wizzyrea i was on the phooooone
21:09 wizzyrea nm
21:08 wizzyrea ah
21:08 jcamins I suggested that way back at the beginning.
21:08 wizzyrea and forget the lid
21:08 wizzyrea more like a griddle
21:08 wizzyrea you might try propping up the front feet :P
21:08 wizzyrea two blobs and some ran down the middle between them?
21:07 wizzyrea lol
21:07 rhcl So next I tried just two side-by-side, and they looked a little like something else.
21:06 rhcl First batch I put four of these small cookies on the grill, and they all ran together and came out exactly like a pancake.
21:04 jcamins rhcl: I meant inside. ;)
21:04 jcamins wizzyrea: intriguing.
21:04 huginn rhcl: The current temperature in St Joseph, Missouri is 27.9�C (4:03 PM CDT on August 25, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 45%. Dew Point: 15.0�C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1019.9 hPa (Steady).
21:04 rhcl @wunder 64506
21:03 jcamins If it's not too hot, you could just keep the cookie dough by your keys, and bake them as soon as you get home.
21:02 jcamins rhcl: how hot is it?
21:01 rhcl Oh, I'll be here for two more hours
21:01 wizzyrea jcamins: http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/apartmenttherapy/ohdeedoh/~3/5cuCrTw9NiM/suretoplease-peanut-butter-jelly-ice-box-cookies-154621
21:01 rhcl_away cookies on George Foreman have decidedly mixed results. The top is so heavy is squeshes 'em really flat and hard to scrape them off the grids
21:01 jcamins rhcl_away: home.
21:00 rhcl_away jcamins: when do I leave for where?
21:00 sekjal git.koha-community.org responding more quickly now
20:57 aarkerio ok, thanks again
20:56 rangi its totally up to the rules you set
20:56 rangi its whatever you set up
20:55 aarkerio I mean, he must be able to borrow items
20:55 aarkerio thanks, BTW, what is the "regular" user in Koha? Student?
20:54 rangi thanks
20:53 wizzyrea awesomesauce
20:53 sekjal on it
20:52 rangi bg: can you take a look at the git server? its a bywater machine eh?
20:52 wizzyrea ping sekjal
20:52 rangi hmm no larryb
20:52 rangi wizzyrea: yeah i get no response
20:51 rangi to make sure holds are allowed for those item types
20:51 wizzyrea re git.koha-community.org, it's very slow, possibly not responding
20:51 rangi then also check your circulation rules
20:51 rangi make sure that is on
20:51 rangi there is one for allowing holds on items on the shelf
20:51 rangi aarkerio: check your systempreferences
20:50 aarkerio is a "Library" user
20:49 aarkerio need I set a "flag" when I add a new Item?
20:48 aarkerio why?
20:48 aarkerio http://mononeurona.org/img/imgusers/aarkerio_2265.png
20:48 aarkerio Hi!! somebody can help me? I have two Items but I can not ask for any of them:
20:46 jcamins rhcl_away: when do you leave?
20:46 rangi others having trouble with git.koha-community.org ?
20:45 rhcl_away The only time I think about it is when I'm here at the library....OK, lemme go try. (We don't have a toaster oven, but good idea).
20:45 wizzyrea too*
20:45 wizzyrea yea, in the toaster oven tho
20:45 jcamins You'll want to tilt it, though, so the cookies don't slide out (aren't the grills angled?).
20:44 jcamins rhcl_away: sure.
20:44 rangi :)
20:44 rangi why not
20:44 rhcl_away I keep forgetting to take it home. So. I have a George Foreman grill thinger. Suppose I can bake cookies on that?
20:44 rangi and its bad?
20:43 rhcl_away OK, so I bought some cookie dough from somebody here at the lib raising funds for their kids for something or other...
20:42 * oleonard realizes he's late for quitting time
20:41 rangi it has to be loud and bassy
20:41 rangi heh
20:41 oleonard ...even though I don't get your taste in testing and pushing music.
20:39 * oleonard cheers on rangi
20:39 rangi http://soundcloud.com/hirshee/hirshee-vs-dawn-penn-you-dont
20:39 rangi ok, time to crank some patch testing and pushing music
20:39 jcamins I thought for a moment it was the recipe in Joy of Cooking, but it turns out that although that recipe is slightly similar, it's not the same thing.
20:38 jcamins Nor the recipe, for that matter.
20:38 jcamins We have no idea where the name came from.
20:38 jcamins The recipe I follow is not shaped or rolled in sugar in any way.
20:37 jcamins Yeah, those are not the same thing.
20:37 jcamins I think.
20:37 wizzyrea and sandy because they're rolled in sugar?
20:37 jcamins Yeah. Online "sandtart" refers to a different cookie, though.
20:37 wizzyrea tart bc of the lemon
20:37 wizzyrea oh those look yummy
20:37 jcamins 3/4 c. or 1 c. butter (the recipe says 1 c., but I think it's wrong), 1-1/4 c. sugar, 1 tsp. vanilla extract, 1 tsp. lemon extract, 1 egg, 2 c. flour, 2 c. chocolate chips.
20:36 * wizzyrea braces herself
20:36 * wizzyrea googles sandtarts
20:36 * wizzyrea imagines something completely different than cookies when she reads that name
20:35 jcamins Sandtarts.
20:35 wizzyrea what kind?
20:35 jcamins And the cookies were delicious.
20:35 wizzyrea :D
20:35 jcamins It was glorious.
20:35 jcamins I baked cookies for the first time all summer yesterday.
20:35 wizzyrea to build you back up with humor and delicious food
20:35 jcamins Yes.
20:35 wizzyrea which is why we often talk about cookies :P
20:35 wizzyrea they do get worn down
20:34 jcamins I definitely understand where the stereotype that developers are unfriendly could come from.
20:34 wizzyrea ^^
20:34 rangi the more we'll get
20:33 rangi the more popular it becomes
20:33 rangi i think its a bit of both
20:33 wizzyrea I'm thinking it is a cultural/language thing
20:33 jcamins Has there been a bumper crop of pushy "it doesn't work, fix it now" messages on the mailing list recently, or am I just even grouchier than usual?
20:23 wizzyrea hee
20:23 jcamins wizzyrea: with all that QA-ing, I guess sekjal would have to be a caffeine-fueled machine. :)
20:17 wizzyrea omg, sekjal is a bot?
20:17 huginn libsysguy1: The current temperature in Ellis Weather Central, Tyler, Texas is 37.2�C (3:17 PM CDT on August 25, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 38%. Dew Point: 21.0�C. Pressure: 29.20 in 988.7 hPa (Steady). Heat advisory in effect until 9 PM CDT this evening...
20:17 libsysguy1 @wunder 75799
20:16 oleonard Duh.
20:16 oleonard He was the son of Curufin, fifth son of Fëanor (son of Finwë and his first wife MÃriel) and Nerdanel, and the only known grandchild of Fëanor. Little is said of his deeds during the First Age.
20:15 sekjal sorry, was doing bot maintenance
20:15 sekjal whoops
20:14 wizzyrea celebrimbor?
20:11 rangi back
20:04 rangi ok my stop bbiab
20:02 jcamins Kind of nifty.
20:02 jcamins Amazon has introduced a Memcached service.
20:01 oleonard Seeing bugs get fixed makes me inordinately happy.
20:00 rangi and push all the waiting ones
20:00 * rangi hopes to knock a few more small bugs off today
19:56 rangi yay
19:54 sekjal 5866 passed QA
19:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6458 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, ASSIGNED , incorrect parsing result in translation processing
19:41 * oleonard is sorry cait isn't here to coordinate with on Bug 6458
19:38 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 11.0�C (7:00 AM NZST on August 26, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Rising).
19:38 rangi @wunder wellington nz
19:35 rangi nod
19:34 wizzyrea (the server itself i'm sure is not crap.)
19:34 wizzyrea (do note, I say "crap" I mean "slower than production by quite a lot")
19:34 wizzyrea it's still going
19:34 wizzyrea over 40s
19:32 wizzyrea and see what the diff is
19:32 rangi cool thanks
19:32 wizzyrea yep, gimme a min
19:32 wizzyrea imma run it on our production
19:32 rangi worth a signoff?
19:32 wizzyrea just for fun
19:32 rangi woot
19:31 wizzyrea over*
19:31 wizzyrea 1566 holds olver
19:31 wizzyrea 6 seconds on our crap test server, no timing out
19:30 wizzyrea yea bg put it on our test server last night I'll check it right now
19:30 rangi sweet
19:30 wizzyrea probably, I think it's on our test server, 1s.
19:29 rangi wizzyrea: do u have time to test that one?
19:29 wizzyrea back
19:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5866 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, NEW , At larger hold volume, waitingreserves.pl for all libraries times out, can cause generalized slowness
19:29 rangi Bug 5866
19:29 rangi Welcome?
19:28 wizzyrea welcome
18:56 wizzyrea libsysguy: about?
18:56 * larryb is back (gone 00:28:36)
18:27 * larryb is away:
18:09 * slef ambles off
18:09 wahanui thanks slef :)
18:09 slef wahanui: botsnack?
18:09 slef botsnack :)
18:09 * huginn reloads and spins the chambers.
18:09 huginn *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
18:09 slef @roulette
18:09 wahanui turns out there is, like, a template bug too, fixing that now as well
18:09 slef turns out there?
18:08 wahanui it has been said that now the world is in balance again
18:08 slef now the world?
17:51 wahanui rallying in fast cars is, like, fun
17:51 slef rallying in fast cars?
17:49 slef nm
17:49 jcamins Huh?
17:48 slef My ISP?
17:47 jcamins And to make it doubly embarassing (however that's spelled), the question marks were automatically inserted by Javascript.
17:47 slef ow
17:47 jcamins Yup.
17:47 slef OCLC's Viaf?
17:46 jcamins That's embarrassing.
17:46 jcamins Viaf can't handle question marks in queries.
17:41 * wizzyrea gasps
17:41 oleonard I'm pretty contrary about the movies, but I did like that Balrog.
17:41 wizzyrea this metaphor has merit.
17:41 wizzyrea burning with the fire of 1k firefox 1.0 installations
17:41 jcamins sekjal: movie. I imagine a whip made of IE would be burning in much the way it does in the movie.
17:40 sekjal s/'//;
17:40 sekjal jcamins: Brother's Hildebrandt version, or movie version?
17:40 jcamins oleonard: hehe.
17:40 wizzyrea tee hee
17:40 oleonard I think he means he's currently on fire.
17:40 wizzyrea horns and all?
17:39 jcamins wizzyrea: I like to think I look kind of like the Balrog.
17:39 wizzyrea oh I just made myself laugh.
17:39 * wizzyrea imagines jcamins with a whip made of old versions of internet explorer
17:39 jcamins slef: you bet. If you want to ask why something's not working, you'd better be using it exactly the way I told you to. ;)
17:38 wizzyrea (I got it :))
17:38 wizzyrea hehe
17:38 * slef too. That's what the ;-) is about.
17:38 wizzyrea yes, people should be free to use netscape 1.0
17:38 * wizzyrea teases. only teasing.
17:38 slef jcamins: wow, harsh. Screw software freedom, huh? ;-)
17:38 wizzyrea get back in the kitchen and bake me a pie?
17:37 jcamins wizzyrea: I sure am.
17:37 wizzyrea :)
17:37 wizzyrea jcamins is a ruthless dictator
17:37 wizzyrea but I think there's some opposition to "yet another thing to run alongside koha"
17:37 wizzyrea or they could be used together
17:37 wizzyrea that's what http://code.google.com/userinfuser would do
17:37 wizzyrea though I love the idea of a plugin.
17:37 wizzyrea sekjal, in the gamifying wiki post tehre's a link to stack overflow that talks about how they do asnyc achievements (because looking at that amount of comment data realtime would be overwhelming)
17:37 jcamins I just tell my clients "you must use Firefox or Chrome."
17:36 jcamins slef: ah, that's not an issue for me.
17:35 slef jcamins: they should but some people still use AOL, so do you want to bet on it? ;-)
17:35 slef ok... I'll be in and out all evening.
17:35 jcamins slef: I'd think browsers and proxies would have to be able to cope?
17:34 rhcl yep, that's why I will wait--I want to look it over first.
17:34 slef rhcl: you might want something smaller than 1300 in there, to reduce the pain to non-fatal levels. Also you mainly want to read the Content-Length in the header and junk the rest.
17:33 rhcl /bin/echo -en "HEAD / HTTP/1.1\r\nHost:localhost\r\nRange:bytes=0-,$(perl -e 'for ($i=1;$i<1300;$i++) { print "5-$i,"; }')5-1300\r\nAccept-Encoding:gzip\r\nConnection:close\r\n\r\n" | nc localhost 80
17:33 rhcl this afternoon I may do the test mentioned...
17:32 slef so I'm not sure I'd want to bet against it completely
17:32 slef jcamins: maybe, maybe not. Koha's virtualhosts also serve files (images, javascript and so on) and some browsers and proxies behave in the funniest ways.
17:31 jcamins It seems like Koha wouldn't need to serve slices of pages.
17:29 slef rhcl: that
17:28 oleonard If you don't allow the self-checkout system to automatically log in does that mean a staff member has to log in manually?
17:27 slef http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/attachments/20110820/848b4dca/attachment.obj
17:26 jcamins slef: I just tried to look up the Apache DoS exploit that you mention, but it would appear that Apache's advisory site is down.
17:26 rhcl this? http://apache.slashdot.org/story/11/08/24/2213201/Apache-Warns-Web-Server-Admins-of-DoS-Attack-Tool?utm_source=rss1.0&utm_medium=feed
17:24 slef oh ok. Has anyone else secured their Koha servers against the just-published apache DoS and did you have any problems doing so? (Yes, we're secured now, but something struck me as a bit odd and I just spent a while without getting to the bottom of it.)
17:19 rhcl come on slef, we're waiting to go to lunch but none of us can leave until we see your question. :)
17:14 slef if no answer in a few, I'll ask then :)
17:14 slef would like to test with one before I make a fool of myself in public :)
17:14 wizzyrea (I consider all here "smart kids" so chances are good someone's got the answer I'm seeking)
17:13 wizzyrea shoot, maybe someone can answer
17:12 slef hi. Any other sysadmins in?
17:12 sekjal could have suspended_until field
17:11 wizzyrea and already in
17:11 wizzyrea isn't that fine in days?
17:11 rhcl what about being barred for a given number of days (typically kids for misbehavior), but lifted automatically on a certain date?
17:11 huginn wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. Quote #148 added.
17:11 wizzyrea @quote add <oleonard> sekjal wants EVERYTHING in a matrix! <sekjal> I'm like the Anti-Neo
17:10 sekjal I'm like the Anti-Neo
17:10 wizzyrea can you blame him
17:10 sekjal or a set of configured keys
17:09 sekjal which is freetext
17:09 sekjal or, instead of numerics, have suspension_reason
17:09 sekjal but if they do something that revokes that permission, its bumped to 1
17:09 * larryb is back (gone 01:13:35)
17:09 oleonard sekjal wants EVERYTHING in a matrix! ;)
17:09 sekjal suspension is normally 0, meaning the permission is in effect
17:09 sekjal table has three columns: borrowernumber, privilege, suspension
17:08 rhcl RE "Things that debar should be able to have the debarment lifted automatically" : we agree
17:08 sekjal break it out to Patron Privileges: CanBorrow, CanRenew, CanPlaceHold, etc. etc
17:08 wizzyrea all good
17:08 rhcl I'm talking to my TS manager over my shoulder--I don't have personal opinions on this myself...
17:07 wizzyrea (and she was from NEKLS
17:07 wizzyrea she talks about overdues
17:07 wizzyrea rhcl did you see the 2nd to last comment
17:06 wizzyrea "things" that debar should be able to have the debarment lifted automatically
17:06 rhcl I have a friend that works for the gvt, and every project they request funding for is related to climate change, because that's where all the grant money is, even though the project may not have that as a primary study objective
17:05 wizzyrea ok, that then
17:05 rhcl but it's all in the wording--make it related to overdues and being barred, and we're interested.
17:04 rhcl same here--we don't charge fines
17:04 oleonard Similar ends. But harder to get money to spend on something relating to fines, for us.
17:03 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1698 enhancement, P3, ---, chris, NEW , Undebar patron if all items are returned
17:03 oleonard Bug 1698
17:02 oleonard (plus the QA contact isn't the bugs list)
17:02 rhcl However, we're willing to be accommodating as long as the terminology is clear to us.
17:02 oleonard Ah wait, that's not the bug I'm thinking of!
17:02 wizzyrea well oleonard in your defense that was only a month ago
17:02 rhcl We us the term "barred" to mean a patron's account is essentially frozen - no checkouts and no use of the computers until the problem, whatever that may be (as above), is fixed.
17:01 wizzyrea whew.
17:01 wizzyrea oh, I did
17:01 wizzyrea did I not put the message on the bug, that was dumb of me
17:01 wizzyrea I think you must have missed it
16:59 sekjal ~borrow
16:59 sekjal it's being used a little differently now, just to designate that the patron cannot borrower
16:59 sekjal originally, "debarred" meant more like "vandalized equipment" or "is a physical threat to the librarians"
16:58 oleonard Or did I assume we were already out of money? :P
16:58 oleonard Did I not see that NEKLS was seeking co-sponsors, or did I forget?
16:58 rhcl well, it's just that we're in the beginning of our FY, and I have a little bit of dev money, and somebody will snatch it if I don't spend it.
16:57 oleonard If we got that "debar explanation" feature in some form you could have the job check to see whether there was a reason entered
16:57 wizzyrea :P
16:57 wizzyrea certain types of fees should be marked as "trivial" and others "not trivial"
16:57 * wizzyrea waves
16:57 oleonard rhcl: I have the same reservations, as indicated in that bug report
16:56 bg hi wizzyrea
16:56 wizzyrea (sorry bg :P)
16:56 rhcl these people might need to see a staff member to update records or The Director to offer penance
16:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2720 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Fines that debar automatically, should undebar automatically when paid.
16:56 wizzyrea bug 2720
16:56 wizzyrea bg 2720
16:56 oleonard The first example is valid rhcl, the second could be handled with gonenoaddress, no?
16:56 wizzyrea there's a bug open for it
16:56 wizzyrea oleonard:
16:56 wizzyrea and actually, we were looking for cosponsors for that
16:55 rhcl So, <undebar/debar> automatically would do what exactly? For example, we might bar someone who has no fines/overdues, but who has vandalized equipment, or who has a known bad address on record.
16:52 oleonard I wonder if we have any $ left in the development budget...
16:50 wizzyrea oleonard: nekls has been wanting that forever
16:50 oleonard Seems like the kind of thing a developer would brag was 'trivial' to write ;)
16:49 oleonard Me neither, but it doesn't hurt to ask :)
16:49 jcamins oleonard: I thought there wasn't one.
16:30 reiveune bye
16:28 oleonard Does anyone here know of a script which automatically undebars patrons with no overdues?
16:27 oleonard libsysguy1: Your email about notifications mentions something you're calling the collection code--we already have collection codes.
16:23 * hdl don't know
16:23 hdl debarredcomment
16:22 oleonard Has it been pushed hdl?
16:22 hdl oleonard: it is already done...
16:21 jwagner I dunno.
16:21 jwagner I've asked my IT people to make sure the module is installed. But if it's been required for that long, it should have been installed long ago. I've had this server for a couple of years now.
16:20 sekjal but it's been a dependency for quite a while, so I don't have any servers where it's not already installed to test this theory
16:19 sekjal there has been some CAS work recently... would need to look at the 'use' statements to see if it's being called in other, non-CAS parts of the code now
16:19 jwagner Double hmmmmmm.
16:19 oleonard jwagner: Yes
16:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6775 enhancement, P5, ---, savitra.sirohi, NEW , Allow reason to be specified when debarring
16:19 oleonard hdl, isn't Bug 6775 something Biblibre was working on?
16:19 jwagner oleonard, you updated this morning?
16:17 jwagner Hmmmm.
16:17 oleonard jwagner: I'm always working off of master and I never got an error about it
16:17 jwagner Can someone else update a test current head server & see if it works for you?
16:16 jwagner sounds likely -- there's a call in there to use Authen::CAS::Client;
16:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5630 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , CAS improvements
16:13 oleonard Bug 5630 maybe?
16:12 jcamins I'm on 3.5.0.4
16:12 * jcamins hasn't updated to Master in a while.
16:11 jwagner What has been pushed in the last couple of weeks, anyone know? Anything related to CAS?
16:10 jcamins Hm. I've never gotten that error message. It just shows red in the About page.
16:10 jwagner That's usually an indication of a new module.
16:10 jwagner When I try to go to the staff URL: Can't locate Authen/CAS/Client.pm in @INC
16:09 jcamins jwagner: how's it complaining?
16:09 jwagner Wonder what happened....
16:09 jwagner Really? I've been running this system for a couple of years, and as recently as a couple of weeks ago (last time I did a git pull) it never complained.
16:09 jcamins jwagner: it's been listed since prior to 3.2.
16:08 jwagner is Authen/CAS/Client.pm a new Perl dependency? My latest git pull on current head is complaining about it.
15:55 * larryb is away:
15:50 jcamins (i.e. not the 3.4.x branch)
15:50 libsysguy1 gotcha
15:50 jcamins libsysguy1: just use Master for your work.
15:50 libsysguy1 right
15:50 oleonard Whatever you write won't make it into an official release until 3.6 or later either way
15:50 libsysguy1 haha is there already a branch for 3.6?
15:49 oleonard Git makes it possible to start your work now
15:49 oleonard libsysguy1: Don't wait on anything!
15:49 libsysguy1 If I was going to work on notices would it be better to wait on 3.6?
15:49 oleonard Hooray, two patches pushed.
15:47 Agent_Dani chris_n: Ah...you're a good bit south of me, then.
15:40 libsysguy1 *crack knuckles* im ready to start working on overdues/notices
15:40 jcamins Good morning, libsysguy1.
15:38 libsysguy1 morning #Koha
15:36 chris_n we also are a host county for one of the coastal counties
15:36 oleonard Are your hatches battened?
15:35 chris_n rhcl: Irene is projected to make landfall in NC near Jacksonville. I'm about 80-90 miles from there.
15:34 rhcl chris_n: are you in the path?
15:30 * Agent_Dani will likely be just out of range.
15:29 * chris_n looks down the barrel of a loaded hurricane :P
15:14 jcamins Nah, it's an old RLIN record that wasn't loaded into their own catalog.
15:12 rhcl maybe there's just an end-of-month update waiting to reflect new holdings recently added to their db?
15:12 jcamins It looks like when they had OCLC do a recon project, they failed to load some of the records.
15:12 rhcl something more than just a periodic update of their holdings?
15:11 jcamins Yale does not receive accolades for their thoroughness wrt making sure their holdings in their catalog match their holdings in OCLC.
15:11 huginn rhcl: slef was last seen in #koha 21 hours, 53 minutes, and 19 seconds ago: <slef> yes, that needs quite a few
15:11 rhcl @seen slef
15:09 rhcl No takers, huh? OK, time's up.
15:08 rhcl So, anybody wanna talk about children's computers?
15:06 jcamins :)
15:05 rhcl And of course, I'll want to get a sample printout from their printers...
15:05 rhcl I know. Independent research. We need some more receipt printers, and I need to go see what Arby's uses.
15:04 rhcl I'll just call it food and eat it! Course, I'll have to sneak away so nobody knows I'm gone...
15:04 jcamins rhcl: it's 4:03pm in London- it's a late lunch!
15:02 jwagner rhcl, call it brunch!
15:02 rhcl wonders if 10:00am is too early for lunch...
14:48 jcamins Oops.
14:48 jcamins Was I "jcamins_1way" overnight?
14:47 jcamins Good morning, #koha.
13:22 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6755] Problems with switching languages <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6755>
12:39 oleonard Oh well, just killing time before a meeting shortly.
12:39 oleonard Yeah, that limits my ability to get stuff done.
12:37 magnus_lunch sounds like fun...
12:26 oleonard ...and possibly whatever port git uses as well?
12:26 oleonard Once again in a branch where the network admin has blocked IRC ports
12:26 * oleonard tries again
12:00 raj thanks magnuse the dirty fix worked for me .. thanks a lot
11:43 Agent_Dani o/
11:42 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6786] False detection of index names in Search; make index names case insensitive <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6786>
11:20 magnuse \o
11:19 druthb o/
11:03 raj ooh it says so :(
11:00 magnuse hm, not if the error says "MarkIssueReturned" is not exported by the C4::Circulation module
10:59 raj even to /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Reserves.pm , am i right?
10:58 magnuse a quick and dirty fix might be something like adding "MarkIssueReturned" to the list of exported subroutines in C4/Circulation.pm
10:58 raj i will try to fix it or upgrade to the latest stable one :)
10:57 raj sure magnuse
10:56 magnuse that will give you a ton of bugfixes and new features as well
10:56 magnuse or preferably 3.4.4 which is the most recent stable
10:56 magnuse if i were you i would at least upgrade to the most recent version of 3.2 - i believe that is 3.2.10
10:55 magnuse the patch is not attached to the bug...
10:55 raj looking magnuse
10:54 huginn 04Bug 2006: major, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, RESOLVED FIXED, Fines Payment Broken
10:54 magnuse looks like this issue might have been solved 3 years ago: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2006
10:52 raj any suggestion magnuse
10:51 raj BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Circulation.pm line 25.
10:51 raj Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Circulation.pm line 25.
10:51 raj BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Reserves.pm line 31.
10:51 raj Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Reserves.pm line 31.
10:51 raj BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Accounts.pm line 27.
10:51 raj Can't continue after import errors at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Accounts.pm line 27
10:51 raj "MarkIssueReturned" is not exported by the C4::Circulation module
10:50 raj this is the complete error log
10:44 raj if upgarding is the only solution means we can do. but i prefer to solve this with out upgrading.
10:44 raj tats ok but we are trying to migrage from 32 bit os to 64 bit and after the fresh installation of the 64 bit koha we have restored the old database. everything works fine now other than the issue while creating the label..
10:42 magnuse any plans on upgrading?
10:42 magnuse hm, that's quite old, 3.4 is the current stable
10:42 raj using 64 bit cent os
10:41 raj 3.02.00.004
10:39 magnuse what version are you using?
10:39 magnuse hm, that's a strange error
10:38 raj this what the error i got
10:35 raj "MarkIssueReturned" is not exported by the C4::Circulation module
10:20 raj Software error:
10:20 raj when i try to create a label it generates the following error..
10:19 raj i will provide the information now
10:19 raj thanks magnuse
10:17 magnuse we won't know if we can help until you have described your problem, raj
10:16 raj i am getting an issue in koha if anybody can help me please reply..
10:14 * Oak waves
10:09 raj rangi you there?
10:08 raj anybody there?
10:08 raj hi
07:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6772 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, ASSIGNED , Implementation of a recommendations engine
07:58 magnuse woohoo for bug 6772!
07:45 magnuse kia ora #koha
07:36 sophie_m hello #koha
07:32 hdl hi all
07:15 cait morning
07:11 francharb hello
06:57 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6772] Implementation of a recommendations engine <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6772>
06:39 wahanui hola, reiveune
06:39 reiveune hello
06:37 raj ??
06:16 raj any suggestions?
06:16 raj "MarkIssueReturned" is not exported by the C4::Circulation modu
06:15 raj when we try to create barcode labels i get the following error.
06:15 raj hi
04:22 Brooke bid!
04:11 bg yup
04:11 Amit_Gupta bg: Brendan
04:11 Amit_Gupta heya Brooke
04:11 bg hi amit
04:10 Brooke hi Amit
04:10 Amit_Gupta Brendan there ?
04:10 Amit_Gupta heya chris
04:08 Oak hey Brooke :^]
04:08 * Oak waves
04:07 Brooke hey oak :D
03:48 libsysguy1 I was afraid of that lol
03:48 rangi its mostly in a module
03:45 libsysguy1 yeah that is what I thought. I know that notifications are in at least 3 cron scripts but i haven't really looked anywhere else
03:45 rangi its a fairly big job
03:44 libsysguy1 on a scale of 1-10 how deep in it am I?
03:44 Brooke you might also want to put an rfc on the wiki if one isn't there
03:44 libsysguy1 ok will do
03:44 rangi id email the main koha list, see if other libraries are interested
03:43 libsysguy1 I wasn't really sure where to start with it
03:43 libsysguy1 the bugs list or the rfc wiki?
03:43 rangi probably better hitting the list with that
03:42 libsysguy1 is there anybody out there interested in teaming up on it?
03:42 libsysguy1 I know that Notifications really needs to be rewritten
03:42 libsysguy1 So I have a random question for anybody that feels up to answering it
03:41 Brooke 0/
03:22 bg noice
03:22 rangi creates index, and fixes the perl
03:22 bg cool
03:22 rangi k updated patch
03:20 bg no stopwatch here
03:20 bg that time about 8 secs
03:19 rangi will attach updated patch
03:19 rangi yay!
03:19 bg maybe less
03:19 bg yup about 15 secs
03:17 rangi then try the webpage again
03:17 rangi my $getborrower = GetMember(borrowernumber => $num->{'borrowernumber'});
03:17 rangi and replace it with
03:17 rangi comment that out
03:17 rangi my $getborrower = GetMemberDetails( $num->{'borrowernumber'} );
03:16 rangi there is a line
03:16 rangi in circ/waitingreserves.pl
03:16 bg yup shoot it here
03:16 rangi do you have a sec to test something for me (it works on my 400 items) bg?
03:16 rangi got a fix
03:16 rangi yay
03:14 rangi when all we need is name, phone and email address
03:14 rangi we are fetching a craptonne of info about the borrower
03:14 rangi right i see what we are doing
03:12 rangi yeah
03:12 Brooke http://www.liveplasma.com/
03:11 eythian rangi: eventually we should hook this recommendations stuff to work with the star rating stuff.
03:11 rangi yeah its the looping over each reserve that is the slow bit
03:11 rangi ah ha
03:10 bg :)
03:10 Brooke Move to plaid!
03:09 rangi ok, well that index will speed it up, but it needs more speed, working on that now :)
03:09 rangi right so its a function of the number of results returned it seems
03:09 bg yup took about 45 seconds to load
03:09 rangi but the only thing different is the query it runs
03:08 Brooke 0/
03:07 rangi seems that a branch makes it faster, without a branch slower
03:07 bg let me try it again
03:07 bg I was in as NO_Library_set
03:07 rangi yeah
03:07 bg I selected a branch that time
03:07 rangi but it took a while still eh?
03:07 bg I've got 1566 holds over
03:07 bg ok that time it went through
03:05 rangi hmm ok ill keep hunting
03:05 bg still spinning
03:05 rangi hmm, but it still spinning?
03:05 bg 3 rows all with a time of 0
03:05 bg no
03:05 rangi is there a query that has been running for a while there?
03:04 bg what do you wanna know
03:03 rangi show full processlist;
03:03 rangi can you run
03:03 rangi in mysql
03:03 rangi right so thats only fixed a bit of it, there must be something else without an index
03:02 bg well I added back the index and it's sitting there spinning away now
03:02 rangi hmm if its still spinning it may be that that query is only part of the issue
03:01 bg let me add the index and see what happens
03:01 bg still spinning
02:59 bg ok spinning away
02:59 bg ah whoops
02:58 rangi holds awaiting
02:58 bg wait is this holds queue or holds awaiting
02:58 rangi but the good news is, it doesnt make it any slower ;)
02:58 bg well trying it in the staff-side (but my results are only 320)
02:57 rangi i dunno if you can tell that to flush
02:56 rangi so hard to test
02:56 rangi yeah result will be in mysqls query cache now
02:56 bg yup all NULL now
02:55 bg ok same result 0.00 - let me try explain
02:55 bg yup does the trick
02:54 rangi try that
02:54 rangi alter table reserves drop index priorityfoundidx;
02:54 eythian no, I think just drop
02:54 eythian or delete
02:54 rangi ahhh
02:54 eythian just 'drop' maybe
02:54 bg nope it's not dropping for me
02:54 * rangi googles
02:54 rangi hmm i cant remember the command
02:53 bg no cigar
02:53 bg DROP INDEX priorityfoundidx;
02:52 rangi see if its much slower
02:52 rangi then try the explain, and just the query
02:52 rangi drop index priorityfoundidx;
02:52 bg I can run that fast
02:52 rangi you should be able to drop it
02:52 bg heh
02:52 rangi altho 0.00 is pretty fast :)
02:52 bg ahhh...
02:52 rangi :)
02:52 rangi now we cant tell if it sped it up or not
02:51 rangi dang
02:51 rangi ahh
02:51 bg did that first
02:51 bg yup
02:51 rangi so you have already created the index
02:51 rangi ohh
02:51 bg key = priorityfoundidx
02:51 rangi is it using an index now?
02:51 bg I ran the first
02:50 bg cool - what do you want to know
02:50 wahanui rumour has it the first is the command i ran
02:50 rangi the first
02:50 bg then the query
02:50 bg or explain;
02:50 bg WHERE priority='0' AND found='W';
02:50 bg explain SELECT borrowernumber,reservedate,itemnumber,waitingdate FROM reserves
02:49 rangi explain then the query
02:49 rangi can you do this for me
02:49 rangi hmm
02:49 bg (0.00 sec)
02:49 bg 1566 in query - seemed pretty fast though
02:48 bg 6768 holds
02:47 rangi :)
02:47 rangi their even
02:47 rangi (there test db maybe)
02:47 rangi since they reported it
02:47 rangi how many in nekls?
02:46 rangi yeah
02:46 bg for the query
02:46 bg not big enough though only 139 rows
02:46 bg 0.00 sec
02:46 rangi if it takes a while, then yep
02:45 rangi and it will tell you how long it takes
02:45 rangi just in mysql
02:45 rangi rule the query in there now
02:45 bg is that big enough?
02:44 bg 1500 holds in there
02:44 sekjal night, all
02:44 sekjal alright, the next thing to make the QA Manager happy is some sleep
02:43 bg not worried about the patch :)
02:43 bg yeah that's what I was thinking
02:43 sekjal that would make a QA Manager VERY happy
02:43 sekjal record the time it takes before application, the time it takes to actually do the indexing, and the time it takes after
02:43 rangi yup
02:42 sekjal wouldn't even have to apply the patch; could just make the change in the DB directly
02:41 bg the database is getting refreshed this weekend
02:40 bg maybe vokal test?
02:40 bg thinking if I have a sample somewhere…
02:40 bg ah that could be pretty sweet
02:25 rangi yep
02:23 sekjal would I could do more, but my eyes are crossing. time for some rest
02:22 sekjal but that's a one-time thing
02:22 sekjal except possible the time to do the database update
02:22 sekjal I can't see how it could slow anything down
02:21 rangi it sped it up on mine, but i want to know if that was the only cause of slowness (it was doing an exhaustive search)
02:21 rangi yeah i need liz or someone with a big db of holds
02:20 sekjal (easy patch to read)
02:20 sekjal oooh, that's a free Pass QA if anyone can test and verify that it does indeed reduce slowness on a large hold volume
02:20 Brooke :) howdy
02:20 rangi hi brooke
02:19 Brooke kia ora
02:18 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5866] At larger hold volume, waitingreserves.pl for all libraries times out, can cause generalized slowness <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5866>
02:07 mtj http://xkcd.com/612/
01:24 mtj ... its great seeing koha installation knowledge spreading around the world
01:20 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5498 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Standardize markup and style of pagination menus
01:20 jenkins_koha oleonard: Follow-up fix for Bug 5498, Standardize markup and style of pagination menus
01:20 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #393: STILL UNSTABLE in 44 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/393/
01:19 mtj s/heath/health/
01:19 mtj and heathnet, nepal++ :)
01:18 mtj rangi: wow, great news re: maldives libraries
01:14 * Agent_Dani just got home from class.
01:14 Agent_Dani \o
01:13 druthb o/
00:50 rangi good to see its 3.4.4 :)
00:50 rangi https://infomalias.wordpress.com/2011/08/23/mla-koha-pilot-project-2011-gaining-momentum/
00:49 rangi and have fun
00:49 rangi sleep well
00:49 cait bye all
00:48 cait time to sleep - long day tomorrow :)
00:46 rangi yes
00:46 rangi wow
00:46 cait 3 euro/hour vs. 2.50 for 24 hours
00:46 rangi ah ok
00:46 cait way cheaper
00:46 cait or yes it has, but using umts
00:46 cait nope
00:44 rangi and the hotel has wifi?
00:44 rangi glad you made to the hotel
00:44 sekjal hi cait
00:43 cait hi sekjal
00:43 cait we had to take a taxi from the station, was too late
00:43 cait finaly
00:43 cait hotel
00:41 rangi where are you now cait ?
00:36 jenkins_koha Starting build 393 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #385 6 j 14 h ago)
00:35 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6602 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Reports dictionary doesn't properly recognize text columns
00:35 jenkins_koha oleonard: Fix for Bug 6602 - Reports dictionary doesn't properly recognize text columns
00:35 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #392: STILL UNSTABLE in 44 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/392/
00:17 cait hi again #koha
00:14 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'kc/new/bug_5498' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=97005758bb647c49462c9f203f48e94fab0bb308> / Follow-up fix for Bug 5498, Standardize markup and style of pagination menus <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7f884128f67125c542daae77b32108e6cf14a5a5>
00:02 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6727] can't import frameworks <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6727>
00:02 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 6602 - Reports dictionary doesn't properly recognize text columns <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=df2a3a9a3cf138bc11e2a39b4aad591d17359830>