Time Nick Message 00:13 mtj eythian: yep, i agree - theres no db differences between our versions 00:14 eythian actually, I just changed it by removing the ratingid column and setting borrowernumber and biblionumber as a composite key, but that's a fairly small change. 00:14 mtj so your clients wont have any problems with either version, in 3.6 00:14 eythian yeah 00:19 mtj aah, composite-key is a new trick for me 00:20 mtj does that make basic-level sql queries trickier? 00:20 eythian no, it just ensures that the combination of borrower and biblio is unique and indexed as a pair. 00:21 eythian which, given most of the searches are like that, is a bit faster. 00:23 mtj ha, im sold :) it sounds like a good way to go 00:40 eythian mtj: sent up now. 00:43 eythian hmm, that seems to be missing a file 00:45 eythian there we go 00:47 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5668] Star ratings in the opac <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5668> 01:36 jenkins_koha Starting build 38 for job Koha_3.4.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 01:41 chris_n 85 bugs squashed in 3.4.4; nice work koha peps :-) 01:43 rangi w00t! 01:43 rangi chris_n++ 01:43 chris_n 217 bugs squashed since 3.4.0 01:44 chris_n for interested parties: http://tinyurl.com/3asw2ku 01:46 chris_n that's available as a bugzilla search titled '3.4.x Bugs' 01:46 chris_n now off to bed 01:48 rangi cool thanks 02:08 druthb o/ 02:09 rangi hiya druthb 02:09 druthb hi, rangi! :D *hug* 02:10 rangi where are you at now? 02:10 druthb Indianapolis, IN. Spent the day working at larryb's place. 02:11 rangi ahhh cool 02:12 druthb That's the plan for tomorrow, too. :) Lindsey likes it over there; plays with the cats and goofs off a lot. 02:13 rangi sweet 02:13 druthb This campground is not as shady as the others we have been at....the tent might well be uninhabitable mid-day. 02:14 rangi ahhh, yeah not being in the tent is a good idea :) 02:16 druthb Next week, we're in Sioux Falls, SD, then Lawrence, KS (wizzyrea country), then Tennessee, then North Carolina, and back to DC for doc visits and a presentation to the national organization for GLBT science and tech professionals Chesapeake chapter. 02:16 rangi awesome 02:17 druthb Probably back to Bird-In-Hand for a couple of weeks, then to Philly, where Lindsey will stay while I'm in India. 02:17 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.4.x build #38: SUCCESS in 41 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.4.x/38/ 02:17 jenkins_koha * f.demians: 3.4.4 Translation Update 02:17 jenkins_koha * chris.nighswonger: Release Notes for 3.04.04.000 02:17 jenkins_koha * chris.nighswonger: Updating Version Number to 3.04.04.000 02:18 druthb might sneak up to NYC for a few days right before India, to see mr & mrs jcamins. :) 02:19 rangi ahh good idea 02:59 rangi http://blog.bluefeet.net/2011/08/using-dbi-effectively-bind_columns/ 03:02 eythian I'd not seen that, nor using \my 03:03 rangi yeah me iehter 03:03 chilts heh, I'd like to see that being used when you're pulling 10 or more columns out :) 03:04 eythian naw, then you'd use fetchrow_hashref({}) 03:06 chilts I pretty much use that exclusively (either on it's own, or in conjunction with a selectall_arrayref with no slice) 03:06 rangi i can see doing that in a few places tho 03:06 rangi when you are just fetching a biblionumber or something 03:07 chilts seems like typing three lines in in exchange for a shorter variable name doesn't seem worth it 03:07 chilts though it does get extra checking I suppose 03:08 eythian also faster 03:08 rangi yup 03:08 eythian so for doing huge dumps it may be worthwhile too 03:08 rangi and typing less has never been a good argument imho ;) 03:08 eythian it's only one more line, anyway 03:08 chilts true 03:09 chilts I think faster also hasn't been a good argument either :) 03:09 rangi :) 03:09 eythian it is when doing rebuild_zebra :) 03:10 * chilts can't be arsed anymore 03:10 rangi hehe 03:10 eythian though, for small to medium size things, it'll be more readable. 03:11 chilts if you want faster for getting a few columns in a tight loop, then a selectall will be faster than fetching one row at a time ... even if it saves when making a variable or two, it wins since you do less db round-trips :) 03:11 eythian good point 03:12 chilts (probably, but who knows until you profile) :) 03:12 chilts heh 03:12 rangi actually that might be a win for rebuild_zebra right there 03:12 rangi or it might eat all the ram and we die 03:12 rangi :) 03:12 chilts heh 03:12 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 6728, Table sorter for receiving acquisitions <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=cbdb5a823aa6387e77adb63e3ff389103ce8f603> / Bug 6703 : Link to invoice broken <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b78004c8e1e4c01ec44feede84bca58a9921664c> 03:13 chilts also, behind the scenes, sometimes DBI may get a number of rows at the same time, which I guess obscures what it's really doing 03:13 rangi tis true 03:13 chilts it may get a lot and therefore wouldn't make much difference anyway, but it'll be worth trying 03:13 eythian yeah, I think it just loads smarter 03:13 chilts it's a minefield :) 03:21 jenkins_koha Starting build 389 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #385 4 j 17 h ago) 03:28 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 6726 - When SMS is enabled the messaging table is misaligned <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3270d384c53c04eee44fa54ed065eebb0741df22> 03:56 Brooke kia ora 03:56 rangi hi Brooke 03:56 Brooke :) 03:57 Brooke oak++ 04:02 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'kc/new/enh/bug_6540' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=75a4efa7042a8d15ba7832d67b8670282da3abbc> / Bug 6540 - Followup - koha-create would die without --configfile <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=31bb901e2b31748dd86e7da45672c42a5359c5a4> 04:05 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #389: STILL UNSTABLE in 44 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/389/ 04:05 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 6703 : Link to invoice broken 04:05 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6728, Table sorter for receiving acquisitions 04:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6703 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, henridamien, NEW , can't see invoice content 04:05 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6726 - When SMS is enabled the messaging table is misaligned 04:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6728 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Table sorter for receiving acquisitions 04:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6726 normal, P5, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , When SMS is enabled the messaging table is misaligned 04:05 jenkins_koha Starting build 390 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #385 4 j 18 h ago) 04:09 Brooke 0/ 04:09 Brooke your ears must be burning. 04:11 Judit hello 04:12 jransom hiy 04:12 Brooke hey Oak 04:12 Oak hey Brooke :^) 04:12 Oak ♥ #koha 04:13 rangi hi Oak 04:13 Oak Hello rangi :) 04:13 Judit can i have a question? (just because i know how much rangi loves this line) 04:15 Judit so in Serial, when you receive it, and want to add an item 04:15 Judit sometimes you have the link Click to add item sometimes you dont 04:15 Judit blabla.com/cgi-bin/koha/serials/serials-edit.pl?subscriptionid=6&serstatus=1,3 04:16 Judit so what do i need to do to have the Click to add item link 04:16 Judit all the time 04:17 rangi make sure your subscription is set up to add items 04:18 Judit create an item record when receiving this serial 04:18 rangi yep 04:18 Judit is highlited 04:18 rangi then no idea 04:18 Brooke brb 04:18 Judit http://koha-3.2demo-staff.osslabs.biz/cgi-bin/koha/serials/serials-edit.pl?subscriptionid=48&serstatus=1,3 04:18 Judit a demo site 04:18 rangi thats old 3.2 04:18 Judit :) i so knew it 04:18 Judit but come on 04:19 Judit i have the same problem in our 3.4 04:19 rangi then you'll have to figure it out then :) 04:19 Judit okay 04:20 Judit let me ask it again 04:20 Judit if i choose create an item record when receiving this serial on the edit derial page 04:20 rangi no i mean i dont know 04:20 rangi you will have to figure it out 04:20 Judit what is the default 04:20 wahanui the default is ports for those who dont have access/skills to run dns 04:22 Brooke oh that's just scary 04:22 Brooke me olde long range plan is still good XD 04:23 Oak :) 04:26 chilts interesting thoughts -> http://librariansmatter.com/blog/2011/06/14/tools-for-teaching-coding-to-kids/ 04:26 chilts not sure I'd agree with the choice of languages though :) 04:26 chilts Perl ftw 04:26 eythian Not for teaching 04:26 Brooke OMG 04:27 Brooke that is like what I need 04:27 eythian Logo, Scratch, then Smalltalk (in the Squeak environment) 04:27 chilts heh 04:27 chilts where's the fun in that? 04:27 Brooke if I can't learn what a 6 year old can, there's no excuse. 04:28 eythian chilts: squeak is brilliant, you can inspect and modify any element of the running system 04:28 Brooke mmm firebug for a computer :) 04:29 eythian and if it's a GUI element you want to to inspect, you do so by right-clicking on it (or something like that) 04:29 eythian it's really good for doing f 04:29 eythian fast, effective UIs 04:29 * Brooke drools. 04:29 eythian (not for end-user software, but prototyping or messing about) 04:30 eythian If I were teaching someone, it'd be where I'd consider starting. 04:30 Brooke eythian++ 04:31 eythian also, made as a collaboration between Disney and Apple many years ago. 04:31 Oak eythian++ 04:49 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #390: STILL UNSTABLE in 43 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/390/ 04:49 jenkins_koha magnus: Bug 6540 - Followup - koha-create would die without --configfile 04:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6540 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, magnus, ASSIGNED , Add more options to koha-create 05:04 Brooke http://www.mlkmemorial.org/ 05:06 Brooke Hi 05:08 Nabonita hi 05:09 Nabonita i'm looking for koha developers whom we can hire to get some customizations 05:10 eythian Nabonita: a good place to start for that information is here: http://koha-community.org/support/paid-support/ 05:11 rangi speaking of which i need to get wizzyrea to update our listing 05:24 Nabonita Thanks for the link. I contacted several companies from the paid support list but not got any response 05:30 jransom 14 minutes is probably a bit quick to be expecting response :D 05:33 Brooke check the RFCs on the wiki, too 05:33 Brooke there might be work in progress 05:33 Brooke or specced out and waiting for big bags of money 05:53 rangi I can confirm catalyst got no email 06:12 cait morning #koha 06:16 magnuse kia ora #koha 06:17 magnuse @wunder boo 06:17 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo Vi, Norway is 11.0�C (8:00 AM CEST on August 23, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 90%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Rising). 06:17 cait @wunder Konstanz 06:17 huginn cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 20.0�C (8:00 AM CEST on August 23, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 20.0�C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1016 hPa (Rising). 06:18 magnuse that sounds pleasant 06:22 hdl hi 06:22 hdl @wunder marseille 06:22 huginn hdl: The current temperature in Marseille / Marignane, France is 24.0�C (8:00 AM CEST on August 23, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1016 hPa (Rising). 06:22 hdl well seems a little under the reality 06:23 cait magnuse: still early, will probably be quite hot today 06:24 cait hi hdl 06:24 magnuse kia ora hdl 06:37 reiveune hello 06:37 wahanui niihau, reiveune 06:44 magnuse bonjour biblibre 06:46 sophie_m hello magnuse 06:50 julian hello! 07:17 rangi @wunder Wellington nz 07:17 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 11.0�C (7:00 PM NZST on August 23, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 30.42 in 1030 hPa (Steady). 07:17 magnuse sounds familiar... 07:26 raj100 hi 07:26 magnuse hiya raj100 07:26 raj100 hi magnuse 07:27 raj100 i have an issue with koha search can someone help me to resolve it 07:30 kf hi #koha 07:30 magnuse raj100: no guarantees, but describe your problem and we will see... 07:30 raj100 ? 07:31 raj100 thanks magnuse4 07:31 raj100 i will describe it now 07:33 raj100 2011] opac-search.pl: We called GetMarcBiblio with a biblionumber that doesn't e xist biblionumber= at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Biblio.pm line 1092., referer: http ://115.119.146.168:8083/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=a 07:34 raj100 this is the koha koha-opac-error_log 07:35 raj100 and i am using zebra indexing. indexing is done and the search results were showing the count with out content 07:36 rangi have you been deleting biblios? 07:36 raj100 no i have not 07:38 rangi normally that error occurs if an item/biblio has been deleted but is still in the index 07:38 rangi how many biblio do you have in your db? 07:38 raj100 ok i will check and tell you now 07:39 rangi first thing i would try is 07:39 rangi run rebuild_zebra.pl with -r -v -x b 07:39 rangi sorry -r -v -x -b 07:39 rangi to do a full reindex and see if that fixes it 07:40 rangi (make sure you do that as the user that runs zebrasrv) 07:42 francharb morning everyone 07:43 raj100 i will do and get back to you rangi 07:43 rangi cool, good luck 07:43 rangi http://infomalias.wordpress.com/2011/08/23/mla-koha-pilot-project-2011-gaining-momentum/ 07:44 magnuse maldives? cool! 07:45 rangi yup 07:45 magnuse ooh, nice place for a kohacon... ;-) 07:45 rangi hehe yes 07:46 kf :) 07:48 magnuse rangi: did you map mu email address to "libriotech" in you stats? if so: way cool! :-) 07:48 magnuse s/mu/my/ 08:00 kf @wunder konstanz 08:00 huginn kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 23.5�C (9:58 AM CEST on August 23, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: 21.0�C. Pressure: 29.97 in 1014.8 hPa (Falling). 08:03 rangi magnuse: yup i did 08:04 kf he also merged kf and cait for the irc statistics... 08:04 magnuse yay! 08:06 magnuse thanks rangi 08:06 rangi np 08:13 rangi http://www.nzlla.org.nz/documents/NZLLA%20Symposium%202011%20programme%20final%20revision%203%20.pdf <-- what im doing tomorrow and thursday 08:26 magnuse no koha on the programme? doing sales pitch? 08:30 rangi on thursday 08:30 rangi the automation panel, 2 of the 3 ppl are koha users 08:30 rangi (treasury and opus) 08:32 magnuse ah, cool! 08:45 kf :) 09:13 rangi Peak for #koha 58 (Tue Aug 23 01:54:31 2011) 09:13 rangi seems our busiest time is 2am nz time 09:20 kf hm 10:21 hdl rangi: looks quite usual to say hello to america. 10:24 rangi yep, that makes sense 11:28 raj478 hi rangi 11:29 raj478 your suggestion worked for me 11:29 raj478 thanks a lot..... 11:51 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6707] Add alternative, textual MARC editor <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6707> 11:55 druthb o 11:55 druthb o/ 11:55 druthb \o 11:55 druthb \o/ 11:56 hdl hi 11:56 druthb hi, hdl. :) 11:57 magnuse o/ 11:57 magnuse The Story of Linux: Commemorating 20 Years of the Linux Operating System http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ocq6_3-nEw&feature=youtu.be 11:58 Agent_Dani \o 12:45 druthb g'morning, Joy! :D 12:47 Agent_Dani Hi talljoy and NateC 12:47 NateC hello! 12:48 talljoy hi 12:56 tcohen hi #koha 12:57 tcohen congrats for this 3.4.4 relase 13:21 rhck oops 13:28 slef wizzyrea: you got George Michaeled at lunch yesterday? Buh? A policeman followed you into the toilet? You were driving drugged? You were singing increasingly explicit pop songs? 13:28 slef hi all :) 13:29 oleonard Someone woke her up before they went-went? 13:29 magnuse kia or slef 13:30 rhcl is this something I need to drive down there and check on? 13:31 magnuse kia ora mtj 13:45 magnuse wow, 75 bugs need signoff! 13:45 magnuse next gbsd? 13:45 wahanui next gbsd is probably http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/2011-09-02_Global_bug_squashing_day 13:47 oleonard Wow, 92 bugs with "Does not apply" or "Failed QA" status... 13:48 wizzyrea slef: thanks for the morning giggle 13:49 wizzyrea more like, exposed to george michael songs against my will 13:49 wizzyrea I was instantly transported to the 80's 13:49 wizzyrea and I'm not sure I liked it 13:52 magnuse ah, so time travel ain't all what it's cranked up to be? 13:53 magnuse "yes, we invented time travel, but you can only go to 1983" 13:53 * wizzyrea shudders 13:54 kf hey 13:54 kf 1983 was not that bad 13:54 kf I think... 13:55 magnuse kf: i'm guessing you don't remember all of it? 13:56 kf better say I remember none of it... 13:56 magnuse hehe 13:56 jwagner I was too busy helping to organize the '83 Worldcon to notice (World Science Fiction Convention, that is) 13:56 wizzyrea I think I remember a trip to disneyland... 13:58 kf :) 13:58 kf see, a good year 13:59 magnuse and there's http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983..._%28A_Merman_I_Should_Turn_to_Be%29 13:59 pelletiermaxime I wasn't even born, so not a good year for me :p 14:00 * wizzyrea now feels old. 14:00 oleonard 1983 saw the release of Return of the Jedi, so that was a pretty big year for me 14:00 magnuse ooh 14:02 oleonard For more feeling old: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_in_film#Births 14:02 magnuse anyone had any sleep-induced revelations re the gamification thingy? 14:03 wizzyrea have you looked at the wiki today magnus? 14:03 wizzyrea i added a bunch of stuff after you wandered off with your ice cream :) 14:03 magnuse yeah, i just edited it even... ;-) 14:03 wizzyrea cool! 14:03 magnuse that was quick 14:03 kf :) 14:04 wizzyrea I'm a little bit uncomfortable still with letting other patrons put comments (a la facebook) on people's library profile 14:04 wizzyrea i can't explain why though 14:05 magnuse leaving that out would be fine by me 14:06 wizzyrea but yea, that brought up another idea 14:06 wizzyrea which is noted there 14:07 magnuse i'm thinking there is very little chance of the opac taking off as a social network anyway... but then again, there might be settings where it might work, like schools perhaps? 14:07 wizzyrea which is an OPAC first login tutorial 14:07 wizzyrea did you have a look at http://code.google.com/p/userinfuser/ 14:07 wizzyrea not that we necessarily want to use it 14:07 wizzyrea but it might be a good example 14:08 wizzyrea on how to go about it 14:08 magnuse no, didn't have time to follow the links yet 14:11 magnuse yeah, looks interesting! 14:12 magnuse looks like it runs on Google App Engine, and has libraries for accessing the API from different programming languages? 14:12 wizzyrea *nod* I'm not sure that we'd necessarily want to run it alongside koha 14:12 wizzyrea but since it's GPL we can definitely use some of their ideas in creating our own, if we choose 14:13 magnuse yup 14:25 wizzyrea aside, I think the ability to show something (even an external link) at first login would be cool. 14:26 magnuse wizzyrea: you mean the first time ever a patron logs on? 14:26 wizzyrea yea 14:26 magnuse ah, yes that might be cool! 14:27 wizzyrea of course a generic first login tutorial would be helpful, but the ability to redirect to custom library specific content would be nice too. 14:27 magnuse yeah! 14:27 kf A help link for a custom toturial in koha's opac would be cool 14:27 kf similar to the online help in staff 14:27 magnuse yup 14:28 wizzyrea you guys have used dropbox right? 14:28 wizzyrea and you've logged into their web interface? 14:28 magnuse it could be displayed very obviously until the user clicks "do not show this again", perhaps? 14:28 wizzyrea yea, exactly 14:28 magnuse wizzyrea: yeah, a couple times 14:29 wizzyrea you know how they walk you through a set of steps before they leave you alone? 14:29 magnuse they have little boxes pointing at things? 14:29 wizzyrea I'm thinking of something like that 14:29 wizzyrea exactly 14:29 wizzyrea "Here is your account!" 14:29 wizzyrea "Renew your books here" 14:29 magnuse yeah, that's cool! 14:29 wizzyrea "see your reading history" 14:29 wizzyrea "contact the library" 14:29 wizzyrea etc 14:29 kf perhaps soething like a beginner's mode? 14:30 magnuse yeah 14:30 kf that can be turned off by the patron 14:30 magnuse yeah! 14:30 wizzyrea yes, that's the best term I've heard for it 14:30 kf and activated by patron category 14:30 kf on creation active if you say so for the category 14:30 wizzyrea *nod* 14:30 magnuse yay 14:31 wizzyrea (and an achievement for "completing" it) 14:31 wizzyrea :P 14:31 wizzyrea like dropbox 14:31 magnuse :-= 14:31 magnuse s/:-=/:-)/ 14:33 wizzyrea http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Beginner_mode 14:34 kf it seems a little broken 14:34 kf where does beginner mode link link to? 14:34 wizzyrea well there's not a lot in that page 14:34 wizzyrea i'm not sure how it's broken it's working for me 14:35 kf the sidebar is at a odd place for me 14:35 kf lots of free space above it 14:35 kf might be something local 14:35 wizzyrea yea that happens sometimes on this wiki i'm not sure why 14:36 magnuse seems to happen when there isn't a category on the page? 14:36 libsysguy can anybody tell me the difference between a serial and a subscription 14:36 wizzyrea there should be a category now 14:38 magnuse yep, and it looks good 14:42 slef libsysguy: you subscribe to a serial? 14:43 slef anyone know why biblioitems.publicationyear wouldn't be linked to 260$c in a marc21 koha? 14:43 libsysguy so it is like Serial -> serialitems 14:43 libsysguy then serial ->subscription ->subscriptionhirtosry 14:44 wizzyrea http://library.rit.edu/liv/ 14:44 * magnuse goes for a walk 14:46 kf slef: because we link copyrightdate to that 14:46 kf slef: and UNIMARC does publicationyear... or something like that 14:47 kf and don't ask me why 14:47 kf but it was something I ran into when I was testing acquisitions 14:52 slef kf: thanks. I'll look at copyrightdate again 14:54 slef kf: nope, we've not got copyrightdate linked to it either. 14:54 slef it's seriously unlinked. :-/ 15:06 slef What's the process for getting a patch pushed to master back to Failed QA? 15:06 oleonard Ask rangi to revert it I think 15:07 oleonard What'd you find? 15:07 slef bug 6277 made koha-conf.xml executable 15:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6277 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , CustomLog by default 15:07 slef no, koha-httpd.conf 15:07 slef it's still executable in master today 15:07 wizzyrea d/oh 15:09 slef @later tell rangi please could you revert the patch from bug 6277, or chmod -x etc/koha-httpd.conf in master if that's simpler? 15:09 huginn slef: The operation succeeded. 15:20 aarkerio hi! where can I handle the "Shelving control number" ? 15:20 wizzyrea magnus_afk: you have cool friends :) http://findthefuture.nypl.org/#/ 15:26 reiveune bye 15:29 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6765] Enable correct checksums for UTF-8 encoded data <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6765> 15:31 McLean_Library Hi all... trying to install Koha and running into a couple of dependency problems 15:32 McLean_Library I'm unable to install CGI::Session::Driver::memcached 15:33 McLean_Library also Memoize::Memcached 15:33 McLean_Library are these necessary if I don't intend to use the memcached server? 15:37 kf slef: hm strange! 15:37 kf slef: have you checked the default frameworks? 15:39 McLean_Library sorry, but what do you mean by default frameworks? 15:39 McLean_Library I believe the issue is related to Cache::Memcached 15:40 McLean_Library which is a prerequisite for both of my missing dependencies 15:40 kf McLean_Library: I was talking so slef - sorry for causing confusion 15:40 McLean_Library oops! 15:40 kf :) 15:40 kf and no, I don't think you need it when you don't use the memcache feature 15:41 slef kf: not yet 15:43 aarkerio McLean_Library, what cpan say? 15:44 aarkerio I mean: $sudo cpan CGI::Session::Driver::memcached 15:45 McLean_Library Hi -- it fails trying to install the Cache::Memcached prerequisite 15:46 wizzyrea which is? 15:46 slef @wunder weston-super-mare SOMERSET 15:46 huginn slef: The current temperature in Weston-Super-Mare, United Kingdom is 21.3�C (4:45 PM BST on August 23, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 29.97 in 1014.8 hPa (Steady). 15:46 McLean_Library 05_reconnect_timeout.t --> "Expected pause while connecting" 15:47 kf @wunder Konstanz 15:47 huginn kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 31.3�C (5:43 PM CEST on August 23, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 40%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. Pressure: 29.88 in 1011.7 hPa (Steady). 15:48 wizzyrea McLean_Library: can you sudo apt-get install memcached? 15:48 aarkerio McLean_Library, look in your distro repositories 15:48 aarkerio In debian-based: $sudo apt-get install ibcgi-session-driver-memcached-perl 15:48 McLean_Library @wizzyrea: I was able to install memcached using apt-get install memcache 15:48 huginn McLean_Library: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready 15:48 * slef offers to take those 10 degrees from kf 15:49 wizzyrea and it's not working? 15:49 McLean_Library @aarkerio: I haven't tried that, but will now 15:49 huginn McLean_Library: downloading the Perl source 15:49 aarkerio or $sudo apt-get install libcache-memcached-perl 15:49 wizzyrea ^^ is probably a better one 15:49 aarkerio sometimes you need restart your webserver 15:50 oleonard McLean_Library: You don't need the "@." That's why the bot huginn is complaining. 15:50 McLean_Library thanks oleonard... 15:51 slef ah, differences between twitter and IRC 15:51 slef fewer people on IRC at any one time => less need to mark nicknames 15:55 McLean_Library ok, I apt-got libcache-memcached-perl and restarted apache 15:55 McLean_Library and was then able to cpan the missing modules successfully 15:55 McLean_Library thanks so much! 15:55 wizzyrea woohoo 15:55 McLean_Library now to run the makefile again and see if it's good 15:56 McLean_Library sweet! 15:56 McLean_Library thanks again 15:57 wizzyrea :) glad it's working 15:57 wizzyrea stop by anytime ;) 15:57 McLean_Library will do... maybe sooner than later :) 16:14 aarkerio mmm, I can add an item: 16:14 aarkerio http://decodic.incan.edu.mx/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=4 16:14 aarkerio but I can't find it using OPAC search 16:14 aarkerio why? 16:15 kf search faq? 16:15 wahanui search faq is at http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/searching/ 16:15 kf :) 16:15 kf can you search at all? 16:16 slef errr, why's the search faq blank? 16:16 slef wizzyrea: someone's stolen the faq! 16:16 kf good question 16:16 wizzyrea oh dear, sec 16:17 kf aarkerio: is your zebrasrv running? 16:17 kf and have to go - bye all! 16:17 slef bye kf and enjoy! 16:18 slef @later tell cait solved - thanks for listening! 16:18 huginn slef: The operation succeeded. 16:22 * slef thinks a grue has got aarkerio 16:25 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6766] Template variable scope errors in holds template <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6766> 16:35 wizzyrea hrmph. apparently a plugin update at the faq categories. 16:35 * wizzyrea is annoyed. 16:35 wizzyrea s/at/ate 16:38 slef want me to report the bug? 16:39 wizzyrea sure 16:39 slef plugin version? 16:39 wizzyrea the content is all still there, just the categories are gone. Should be easy enough to recreate 16:39 wizzyrea 1.3.3 16:40 wizzyrea oh bless whoever fixed the paging on parameterized saved reports. 16:47 wizzyrea hrmph, somewhere there is a function that is transferring items, and you get something like Oskaloosa instead of OSKALOOSA 16:49 wizzyrea for tobranch 16:49 slef wizzyrea: what's the plugin's exact name? I don't have plugins in my dashboard :( 16:49 wizzyrea DS_FAQ 16:50 slef not found @ wordpress.org - got link? :( 16:50 wizzyrea yea, sec 16:50 slef wp-ds-faq? 16:51 wizzyrea yes, sorry, specificity fail 16:51 slef np. Reporting... 16:51 slef hrm, doing the password reset shuffle 17:02 slef wizzyrea: http://wordpress.org/support/topic/plugin-wp-ds-faq-upgrade-lost-categories 17:02 wizzyrea awesome, thanks 17:02 wizzyrea I will look into getting the categories re-inserted this afternoon 17:03 slef cool, thanks 17:08 cait nengard: around? 17:08 nengard yes 17:08 nengard is this about my most recent bug? 17:08 cait the duplicate subscription bug - I had a patch for that 17:08 nengard cause i just learned that i wan't on master 17:08 nengard k 17:08 cait ah 17:08 cait yep :) 17:09 cait it should be fixed on master :) 17:09 nengard i'll mark it invalid 17:09 cait I can give you the bug number 17:09 nengard no i trust you 17:09 nengard :) 17:09 cait it was the serials not working bug with 3 problems 17:09 cait bug 6305 17:09 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6305 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, RESOLVED FIXED, The serials are not working properly 17:10 cait nengard: I hope I didn't miss an instance or something - so perhaps you still want to make sure 17:10 nengard yeah i'll test on master just in case 17:10 nengard but i'm pretty sure i've had no problem on my system 17:11 nengard and it's just the system i was testing on 17:12 cait cool 17:13 cait I was worried I made a mistake there 17:21 wizzyrea argh! 17:21 wizzyrea somewhere there is a transit function that causes the tobranch to be mixed case 17:22 wizzyrea instead of all caps 17:24 cait oh? 17:24 wizzyrea http://paste.koha-community.org/14 17:24 cait weird! 17:24 wizzyrea i'll grant you 17:24 wizzyrea that example is weird anyway 17:24 cait hm 17:24 wizzyrea because a transit to/from the same place? 17:25 cait is the description Wellsvile too? 17:25 wizzyrea w.e.i.r.d 17:25 wizzyrea no 17:25 cait I wonder it's starting with a capital 17:25 cait where did it get that from? 17:25 wizzyrea the description would be Wellsville Community Library 17:25 cait ok 17:25 wizzyrea but it's not putting that all in 17:25 cait field is not long enough, but it's probably not what it#s doing 17:26 pastebot "wizzyrea" at 24.124.17.146 pasted "another example, not so weird" (1 line) at http://paste.koha-community.org/15 17:26 wizzyrea and it's only in tobranch, not frombranch 17:27 wizzyrea interestingly, it has to be a workflow thing 17:27 wizzyrea because some libraries generate a lot of these 17:27 wizzyrea others none 17:30 pastebot "wizzyrea" at 24.124.17.146 pasted "item with full contents of branchtransfers" (2 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/16 17:32 wizzyrea http://screencast.com/t/UkdCRjIZy 17:32 wizzyrea this is what it looks like in the interface when it happens 17:35 cait :( 17:36 cait which version are you currently? 17:36 wizzyrea this is pretty close to master.. sec 17:36 wizzyrea 3.05.00.006 17:36 cait hm 17:36 wizzyrea i think it's been happening for a while 17:36 cait but the cases are current, not older? 17:37 wizzyrea ribht 17:37 wizzyrea right* 17:37 cait hmm 17:37 cait weird 17:37 wizzyrea it doesn't happen *all* that often 17:38 wizzyrea of items currently in transit that haven't arrived (3000) probably less than a hundred have this condition? 17:38 wizzyrea dumb question of the day, how can I tell mysql to pay attention to case :P 17:39 cait I think mysql doesn#t pay attention 17:39 cait but you are right, shoud lbe possible to tell it to care 17:39 cait perhaps upper() lower() 17:40 wizzyrea (I want to ask it how many are mixed case) 17:41 cait ask for not uppercase 17:41 wizzyrea Ah 17:42 wizzyrea good call 17:42 cait not in (uppper('branchname')) perhaps 17:45 wizzyrea ^ syntax error :/ 17:45 wizzyrea i'm piddling around with it 17:45 wizzyrea oh strcmp might work 17:45 wizzyrea because the strings would be different, I think? 17:45 wizzyrea maybe not. 17:47 wizzyrea mm no that's just length 17:48 slef bleah - it just took me that long to get my gravatar updated, with all the interruptions 17:48 slef I don't care. Nearly vuelta time. 17:49 slef what are we playing with? 17:49 wizzyrea well I have a case where a transfer has a tobranch of Xxxxxx instead of XXXXXX 17:49 wizzyrea and 1. I don't know why 17:50 wizzyrea and 2 I want to find only those in lower case. 17:50 wizzyrea to see how many there are. 17:51 wizzyrea upper/lower convert the strings 17:52 slef where branchname != upper(branchname) ? 17:52 wizzyrea hmm 17:53 chris_n hmm earthquake 17:53 slef chris_n: where? 17:53 jwagner Good heavens. We just had an earthquake ] 17:53 wizzyrea !!!! 17:53 cait oh 17:53 jwagner DC area here 17:53 wizzyrea whoa 17:53 chris_n MD 17:53 chris_n sorry 17:53 chris_n NC 17:53 chris_n I95 Exit 77 17:53 slef wow... is there a fault line there? 17:53 chris_n yes 17:53 cait wizzyrea: oh, my mistake 17:53 wizzyrea big earthquake? 17:54 wizzyrea nah, sok it may still work 17:54 oleonard I'm feeling shaking too 17:54 chris_n weird 17:54 chris_n the entire building was shaking 17:54 slef http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsus/ look for the red dot 17:54 wizzyrea ...seriously? 17:54 oleonard Seriously 17:54 slef mag >5 17:55 chris_n http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/at00lqe6x3.php 17:55 oleonard Very subtle here, but noticeable 17:55 jwagner looks like it was along I-64 between Charlottesville & Richmond 17:55 jwagner It was pretty noticeable here :-) 17:55 slef wow. I was there about this time last year. 17:56 slef google thinks it was in a river??? 17:56 slef bbl 17:56 wizzyrea oh, I guess you're not so far away owen' 17:57 wizzyrea i forget how close stuff is together in the east. 17:57 wizzyrea still that's a long way away to feel an earthquake 17:57 jwagner preliminary magnitude 5.8 17:58 oleonard http://twitter.com/#!/search/earthquake 17:59 wizzyrea boston! 17:59 jcamins Wait, that _was_ an earthquake? 17:59 wizzyrea yes, apparently it was 17:59 oleonard jcamins never believes anything we say! 17:59 wizzyrea pentagon being evacuated after earthquake 17:59 wizzyrea ! 18:00 jcamins oleonard: no, Shari and I were just discussing whether there had been an earthquake. 18:03 jcamins It looks like the answer is yes. 18:03 JesseM jcamins: I felt it in CT 18:04 Agent_Dani Yep. 5.8 (preliminary) centered in Virginia. 18:06 wizzyrea pretty shallow too 18:09 oleonard wizzyrea wanted one she could have a conversation with. 18:09 wizzyrea it's true 18:09 jwagner USGS now says 5.9 magnitude 18:10 jwagner And no, we don't generally get big ones in this part of the world. There have been a few local ones, but hardly noticeable. The last one, I thought a large truck was driving by. 18:12 wizzyrea *nod* 5.9 is pretty big 18:12 slef any fracking in Virginia? 18:12 wizzyrea or colorado? 18:12 wizzyrea probalby almost certainly in colorado 18:12 wizzyrea friend says she felt it in indiana 18:13 wizzyrea http://cdn2.mixrmedia.com/wp-uploads/ziggytek/blog/2011/08/camera-vibrate.jpg 18:14 wizzyrea lol 18:14 wizzyrea someone took a pic while it was going on 18:14 wizzyrea that's either an elaborate hoax or completely awesome. 18:22 chris_n it was about 30 mins from my parents 18:22 wizzyrea is anything damaged? reports of people hurt? 18:22 chris_n they said the roar was very loud 18:22 chris_n they walls of their log house were swaying 18:23 chris_n but no damage 18:23 chris_n thankfully 18:23 wizzyrea *nod* 18:23 wizzyrea that's what I care about 18:27 * chris_n wonders if it got confused and thought this was the west coast 18:34 jwagner picked up from USA Today site: The USGS suggests that the quake is the largest to originate in Virginia since May 31, 1897. 18:38 Agent_Dani That's what I hear from a friend in Richmond, VA, about 30 miles away from the epicenter. 18:40 jwagner The location details puts it Not Very Far At All from the North Anna nuclear power plant -- my sister used to be a health physics tech there. One trusts all the little atoms are safely locked down.... 18:41 * chris_n used to fish in North Anna Lake 18:46 chris_n I think two nuc's have shut down for safety checks 18:48 oleonard https://twitter.com/#!/YUCKYBOT/status/106064231459323904 18:54 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6768] Two unused include files can be removed: error-top.inc and error-bottom.inc <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6768> 18:59 cait oleonard++ 19:02 oleonard I never find so many bugs as when I'm trying to fix bugs. 19:03 cait yep 19:03 cait or when testing something else 19:06 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5028] Remove references to catmaintain.pl <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5028> 19:29 Brooke kia ora 19:29 rhcl Brooke! 19:29 Brooke homie g! 19:29 Brooke whazzah? 19:29 wizzyrea whaddup brooke 19:30 Brooke we had a wee rumbler 19:30 wizzyrea i heard! 19:30 Brooke the earthquake shack they have in museum is worse ;) 19:31 cait hi Brooke 19:32 wizzyrea hehe 19:32 Brooke guten tag 19:40 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 3431] Catalog by itemtype report pulling from holdingbranch <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3431> 19:42 cait owen superhero :) 19:43 oleonard Relevant to our interests: http://www.kalzumeus.com/2010/06/17/falsehoods-programmers-believe-about-names/ 19:46 Brooke if you input my Indian name, it usually makes a deprecated system cry 19:49 rhcl If you input my Korean name into a Korean computer it laughs. 19:54 Brooke indeed. No r sound in Korean. 19:54 Brooke ooops 19:54 Brooke I meant no ok 19:54 Brooke bah 19:54 * Brooke was Brett for a number of years. 19:55 Brooke it was either that or Blake, and I'd rather be Brett. 20:00 rangi morning 20:00 oleonard Hi rangi 20:00 cait morning rangi 20:01 rangi @later tell slef will fix the koha-httpd.conf today, wifi permitting 20:01 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded. 20:02 rhcl Ah, no, I actually have a Korean name (from having been a Korean translator for 20 years and living there for 13 or so) 20:02 Brooke morena 20:04 rangi [off] sarumans tower crack on that earthquake? 20:07 slef thanks rangi 20:07 cait rain! 20:08 rangi im hoping that since this symposium is at the uni there will be some wifi 20:08 wizzyrea slef: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/08/23/halliburton-exec-takes-swig-fracking-fluid/?test=latestnews 20:09 cait hm lots of rain 20:09 cait @wunder konstanz 20:09 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 23.4�C (10:08 PM CEST on August 23, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 19.0�C. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014.4 hPa (Rising). 20:10 rangi frack that 20:10 slef wizzyrea: reminds me of http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/may/16/newsid_2913000/2913807.stm so meh 20:10 wizzyrea oh snap. 20:10 wizzyrea fwiw I'm not really for fracking. 20:11 wizzyrea I thought the existence of 'food grade' fracking liquid was interesting, however. 20:11 wizzyrea s/liquid/fluid 20:11 rhcl all the same I would decline to drink it 20:12 rangi ditto 20:12 wizzyrea tritto? 20:12 wizzyrea did I just make up a word? 20:12 slef Blackpool Shale Gas drilling suspended after quake - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-13599161 20:12 rangi was there any damage in the quake usians? 20:13 rhcl news isn't reporting much damage 20:13 wizzyrea lots of evacuations 20:13 wizzyrea but the pics I've seen of the devastation involve lawn chairs fallen over. 20:13 rangi heh 20:13 rangi I guess its pretty rare 20:13 rangi like us and snow 20:13 rhcl two nukes did shut down, but with no apparent damage 20:14 wizzyrea yea, they say there hasn't been one that big since late 1800's 20:14 rangi thats good 20:14 wizzyrea *nod* 20:14 rhcl someday though New Madrid will wake up wizzyrea and me 20:14 wizzyrea though it wasn't in the news, there was a nuclear plant in nebraska? that was completely surrounded by flood water 20:14 rangi how deep was it? 20:15 wizzyrea the flood water? 20:15 rangi the epicenter 20:15 rhcl very shallow = 1 km 20:15 wizzyrea oh 1km 20:15 rangi ahh yeah, ud feel that 20:15 wizzyrea re the nuclear plant, they had to levee the plant off and hope it held, otherwise they'd be in a similar state as fukushima. 20:16 rangi yikes 20:16 rangi ok my stop bbl I hope 20:16 wizzyrea mhm... let me try to find the article(s) 20:16 wizzyrea kk gl 20:16 wizzyrea http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/27/fort-calhoun-nuclear-flood-nebraska-plant_n_885067.html 20:23 oleonard This must be what you were talking about http://jmckinley.posterous.com/dc-earthquake-devastation 20:38 wizzyrea yep that's one of the ones I saw 20:38 wizzyrea there's a whole meme now 20:46 * chris_n suggests googling on "liquid earth" 20:46 rangi liquefaction 20:47 rangi and yes, there is cafenet here 20:47 wizzyrea noice 20:47 wizzyrea chris_n: was there some liquefaction around? 20:48 chris_n no, but some of the videos of it are quite impressive 20:48 chris_n it appears the national cathedral lost a couple of spires 20:50 wizzyrea http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/earthquake-playlist/2011/08/23/gIQAOe3UZJ_video.html 20:50 wizzyrea yea 20:50 wizzyrea never mind, the post sucks. 20:51 rangi there was a lot of it in christchurch, they are still cleaning it up 20:51 jenkins_koha Starting build 391 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #385 5 j 11 h ago) 20:51 rangi ok, pushed the fix for koha-httpd.conf 20:51 wizzyrea http://www.kmov.com/news/slideshows/Stones-fall-off-Washington-National-Cathedral-128266043.html?gallery=y&c=y&ref=%2F&img=1#gallery-image 20:54 chris_n off to home to make sure the chimneys are still standing :-) 20:54 wizzyrea ooo yea 20:54 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Fixing executable bit on koha-httpd.conf <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=73081505f59f2d6ba256fcab1226e43c93d7ae92> 20:54 druthb o/ 20:54 rangi ohh a patch from ulrich at bsz 20:57 rhcl http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/08/23/android_gpl_fsf/ 20:58 cait yep :) 21:13 rangi man brenda chawner is awesome 21:16 jcamins Has there really been no messages on any of the Koha lists all day? 21:16 ibeardsl1e rangi: I assume you've seen this? http://researcharchive.vuw.ac.nz/handle/10063/1710 21:16 wizzyrea hmm the last one I have is linda culberson at 12:24 21:16 jcamins Hm. 21:16 wizzyrea and hdl at 1:35am 21:16 jcamins I haven't gotten any. 21:16 wizzyrea several patches from owen, too 21:17 ibeardsl1e "Factors Influencing Participant Satisfaction with Free/Libre and Open Source Software Projects" 21:17 jcamins wizzyrea: any chance I could persuade you to try sending me an e-mail? 21:17 rangi yup, brenda interviewed me :) 21:17 wizzyrea i'd love to pm me your address 21:17 rangi jcamins/wizzyrea: i saw the mail on the bugs list 21:18 ibeardsl1e should aim to involve her in the next academy 21:19 rangi oh definitely 21:23 rangi ohh the good stuff now 21:23 rangi copyright 21:28 luisb inquiry: would there be any adverse affect of my inserting library data directly into branches instead of using the interface? 21:33 rangi no 21:33 rangi as long as you put all the info in 21:33 luisb aye, thanks! 21:35 rhcl well laid out thesis 21:35 luisb have there been any thoughts of having some sort of import facility for libraries? 21:35 luisb er, branches 21:35 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #391: STILL UNSTABLE in 44 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/391/ 21:35 jenkins_koha Chris Cormack: Fixing executable bit on koha-httpd.conf 21:38 rangi nope, becuase usually the number is quite small, and its about as fast to just add them :) 21:38 rangi but we definitely accept a patch :) 21:38 rangi note to self, check out islandora 21:51 wizzyrea ooo kay gotta stop by the store on the way home ttyl! 21:51 rangi cya later 22:09 rangi man law librarians love RSS 22:10 mtj heya chris , i didnt know that.... 22:11 rangi neither did i 22:11 rangi its all about 'current awareness' 22:11 rangi the lawyers want to know whats new at all times 22:11 rangi http://identi.ca/notice/81468800 22:14 jcamins Aggregator-type page? 22:14 jcamins And, yeah, they sure do like RSS. 22:15 rangi well, what these librarians are doing, is building a page using sharepoint (puke) 22:15 rangi that aggregates feeds for the lawyers to look at 22:15 jcamins Ah. I see. 22:18 Irma G'day #koha 22:18 rangi i figure something like eric leases mylibrary 22:18 rangi http://search.cpan.org/dist/MyLibrary/ 22:19 rangi i reckon a bunch of corporate libraries would do the same 22:20 rangi too many ideas, not enough hours :) 22:20 rangi hi Irma 22:20 rangi and hi druthb 22:21 druthb hi, rangi 22:21 jcamins rangi: truer words were never spoken. 22:21 Irma hi rangi .... Enjoy Wed and Thursday...Law librarians are a vivid informed and fun group! 22:21 jcamins And, on that thought, off I go. 22:24 rangi what the hell 22:29 rangi Irma: yes they are :) 22:29 Irma Quick question: what should be looked at when > Searching >Keyword> Barcode> works but Searching > Barcode does not work? 22:30 Irma Circulation> Barcode search works ... 22:30 Irma Strange ... 22:31 rangi hmm 22:31 * mtj fires up his twitter/identica client after a few weeks of downtime 22:31 Irma hi mtj :-) 22:31 mtj Irma: that needs a screenshot 22:31 mtj heya 22:32 Irma mtj ;-) 22:33 mtj yeah, i cant visualize where your 'Searching > Barcode' is 22:34 Irma mtj go to Search .... in advanced searching look for Barcode under the Keyword drop down menu ... 22:34 mtj in opac? 22:42 mtj fyi: i've confirmed the bug is in Irma's 3.2 koha, *only* 22:42 mtj so all good 22:43 Irma correction: this koha 3.2. is not hosted by us but another support company. CALYX does training etc.... 22:44 mtj cool 22:44 mtj try a full zebra re-index 1st 22:46 mtj but yeah, its a weird bug on that koha 22:47 mtj or buggy framework mapping , is my next guess... 22:49 rangi thatd do it 22:49 mtj hmmm, frwrk mapping looks ok for barcode => 952$p 22:49 mtj so its not that 22:51 aarkerio so, where is the HTML opac template? 22:52 Irma yes it's a nuisance I would like to help the librarian get solved ... 22:52 rangi aarkerio: sorry? what are you asking? 22:52 mtj aaah, leading 000's in your barcode , is the bug 22:53 aarkerio I mean where is the base HTML code from all the OPAC pages? 22:53 aarkerio the <body> and so 22:54 Irma ah mtj are you sure? the number was 532 then one zero was added to match the actual barcode's number of 0532 22:54 mtj Irma: i've confirmed that bug on another 3.2 22:55 Irma thanks mtj will report back when we have it nailed! 22:55 rangi aarkerio: if you want to customise the opac, editing the templates will make it very very very hard for you to upgrade in the future, you are better off using the sysprefs and jquery and css like 22:56 rangi http://www.myacpl.org/koha/?p=160 22:56 rangi if you want to make changes in the template and send upstream as patches 22:56 rangi then they are in koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/prog/en/modules/ 22:57 aarkerio mmm, perfect!! thanks! 22:59 rangi but beware, local changes that arent done using the sysprefs, make it hard for you to upgrade, so upstream or use the sysprefs :) 23:03 mtj aarkerio: rangi gives you *very* wise advice :p 23:11 eythian anyone tried to sign up to translations.k-c.org? I don't seem to be getting an activation email from it. 23:13 rangi translate.koha-community.org ? 23:13 rangi i signed up ages ago 23:13 rangi so havent tried recently 23:13 eythian err yeah, translate 23:16 rangi i remember when charlie did 23:16 rangi it took a while 23:16 eythian oh, it just came through :) 23:17 rangi there ya go 23:17 eythian I'm just impatient :) 23:46 druthb o/ 23:49 Agent_Dani \o