Time Nick Message
00:13 mtj eythian: yep, i agree - theres no db differences between our versions
00:14 eythian actually, I just changed it by removing the ratingid column and setting borrowernumber and biblionumber as a composite key, but that's a fairly small change.
00:14 mtj so your clients wont have any problems with either version, in 3.6
00:14 eythian yeah
00:19 mtj aah, composite-key is a new trick for me
00:20 mtj does that make basic-level sql queries trickier?
00:20 eythian no, it just ensures that the combination of borrower and biblio is unique and indexed as a pair.
00:21 eythian which, given most of the searches are like that, is a bit faster.
00:23 mtj ha, im sold :) it sounds like a good way to go
00:40 eythian mtj: sent up now.
00:43 eythian hmm, that seems to be missing a file
00:45 eythian there we go
00:47 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5668] Star ratings in the opac <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5668>
01:36 jenkins_koha Starting build 38 for job Koha_3.4.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
01:41 chris_n 85 bugs squashed in 3.4.4; nice work koha peps :-)
01:43 rangi w00t!
01:43 rangi chris_n++
01:43 chris_n 217 bugs squashed since 3.4.0
01:44 chris_n for interested parties: http://tinyurl.com/3asw2ku
01:46 chris_n that's available as a bugzilla search titled '3.4.x Bugs'
01:46 chris_n now off to bed
01:48 rangi cool thanks
02:08 druthb o/
02:09 rangi hiya druthb
02:09 druthb hi, rangi! :D *hug*
02:10 rangi where are you at now?
02:10 druthb Indianapolis, IN. Spent the day working at larryb's place.
02:11 rangi ahhh cool
02:12 druthb That's the plan for tomorrow, too. :) Lindsey likes it over there; plays with the cats and goofs off a lot.
02:13 rangi sweet
02:13 druthb This campground is not as shady as the others we have been at....the tent might well be uninhabitable mid-day.
02:14 rangi ahhh, yeah not being in the tent is a good idea :)
02:16 druthb Next week, we're in Sioux Falls, SD, then Lawrence, KS (wizzyrea country), then Tennessee, then North Carolina, and back to DC for doc visits and a presentation to the national organization for GLBT science and tech professionals Chesapeake chapter.
02:16 rangi awesome
02:17 druthb Probably back to Bird-In-Hand for a couple of weeks, then to Philly, where Lindsey will stay while I'm in India.
02:17 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.4.x build #38: SUCCESS in 41 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.4.x/38/
02:17 jenkins_koha * f.demians: 3.4.4 Translation Update
02:17 jenkins_koha * chris.nighswonger: Release Notes for 3.04.04.000
02:17 jenkins_koha * chris.nighswonger: Updating Version Number to 3.04.04.000
02:18 druthb might sneak up to NYC for a few days right before India, to see mr & mrs jcamins. :)
02:19 rangi ahh good idea
02:59 rangi http://blog.bluefeet.net/2011/08/using-dbi-effectively-bind_columns/
03:02 eythian I'd not seen that, nor using \my
03:03 rangi yeah me iehter
03:03 chilts heh, I'd like to see that being used when you're pulling 10 or more columns out :)
03:04 eythian naw, then you'd use fetchrow_hashref({})
03:06 chilts I pretty much use that exclusively (either on it's own, or in conjunction with a selectall_arrayref with no slice)
03:06 rangi i can see doing that in a few places tho
03:06 rangi when you are just fetching a biblionumber or something
03:07 chilts seems like typing three lines in in exchange for a shorter variable name doesn't seem worth it
03:07 chilts though it does get extra checking I suppose
03:08 eythian also faster
03:08 rangi yup
03:08 eythian so for doing huge dumps it may be worthwhile too
03:08 rangi and typing less has never been a good argument imho ;)
03:08 eythian it's only one more line, anyway
03:08 chilts true
03:09 chilts I think faster also hasn't been a good argument either :)
03:09 rangi :)
03:09 eythian it is when doing rebuild_zebra :)
03:10 * chilts can't be arsed anymore
03:10 rangi hehe
03:10 eythian though, for small to medium size things, it'll be more readable.
03:11 chilts if you want faster for getting a few columns in a tight loop, then a selectall will be faster than fetching one row at a time ... even if it saves when making a variable or two, it wins since you do less db round-trips :)
03:11 eythian good point
03:12 chilts (probably, but who knows until you profile) :)
03:12 chilts heh
03:12 rangi actually that might be a win for rebuild_zebra right there
03:12 rangi or it might eat all the ram and we die
03:12 rangi :)
03:12 chilts heh
03:12 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 6728, Table sorter for receiving acquisitions <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=cbdb5a823aa6387e77adb63e3ff389103ce8f603> / Bug 6703 : Link to invoice broken <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b78004c8e1e4c01ec44feede84bca58a9921664c>
03:13 chilts also, behind the scenes, sometimes DBI may get a number of rows at the same time, which I guess obscures what it's really doing
03:13 rangi tis true
03:13 chilts it may get a lot and therefore wouldn't make much difference anyway, but it'll be worth trying
03:13 eythian yeah, I think it just loads smarter
03:13 chilts it's a minefield :)
03:21 jenkins_koha Starting build 389 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #385 4 j 17 h ago)
03:28 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 6726 - When SMS is enabled the messaging table is misaligned <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3270d384c53c04eee44fa54ed065eebb0741df22>
03:56 Brooke kia ora
03:56 rangi hi Brooke
03:56 Brooke :)
03:57 Brooke oak++
04:02 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'kc/new/enh/bug_6540' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=75a4efa7042a8d15ba7832d67b8670282da3abbc> / Bug 6540 - Followup - koha-create would die without --configfile <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=31bb901e2b31748dd86e7da45672c42a5359c5a4>
04:05 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #389: STILL UNSTABLE in 44 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/389/
04:05 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 6703 : Link to invoice broken
04:05 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6728, Table sorter for receiving acquisitions
04:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6703 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, henridamien, NEW , can't see invoice content
04:05 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6726 - When SMS is enabled the messaging table is misaligned
04:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6728 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Table sorter for receiving acquisitions
04:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6726 normal, P5, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , When SMS is enabled the messaging table is misaligned
04:05 jenkins_koha Starting build 390 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #385 4 j 18 h ago)
04:09 Brooke 0/
04:09 Brooke your ears must be burning.
04:11 Judit hello
04:12 jransom hiy
04:12 Brooke hey Oak
04:12 Oak hey Brooke :^)
04:12 Oak ♥ #koha
04:13 rangi hi Oak
04:13 Oak Hello rangi :)
04:13 Judit can i have a question? (just because i know how much rangi loves this line)
04:15 Judit so in Serial, when you receive it, and want to add an item
04:15 Judit sometimes you have the link Click to add item sometimes you dont
04:15 Judit blabla.com/cgi-bin/koha/serials/serials-edit.pl?subscriptionid=6&serstatus=1,3
04:16 Judit so what do i need to do to have the Click to add item link
04:16 Judit all the time
04:17 rangi make sure your subscription is set up to add items
04:18 Judit create an item record when receiving this serial
04:18 rangi yep
04:18 Judit is highlited
04:18 rangi then no idea
04:18 Brooke brb
04:18 Judit http://koha-3.2demo-staff.osslabs.biz/cgi-bin/koha/serials/serials-edit.pl?subscriptionid=48&serstatus=1,3
04:18 Judit a demo site
04:18 rangi thats old 3.2
04:18 Judit :) i so knew it
04:18 Judit but come on
04:19 Judit i have the same problem in our 3.4
04:19 rangi then you'll have to figure it out then :)
04:19 Judit okay
04:20 Judit let me ask it again
04:20 Judit if i choose create an item record when receiving this serial on the edit derial page
04:20 rangi no i mean i dont know
04:20 rangi you will have to figure it out
04:20 Judit what is the default
04:20 wahanui the default is ports for those who dont have access/skills to run dns
04:22 Brooke oh that's just scary
04:22 Brooke me olde long range plan is still good XD
04:23 Oak :)
04:26 chilts interesting thoughts -> http://librariansmatter.com/blog/2011/06/14/tools-for-teaching-coding-to-kids/
04:26 chilts not sure I'd agree with the choice of languages though :)
04:26 chilts Perl ftw
04:26 eythian Not for teaching
04:26 Brooke OMG
04:27 Brooke that is like what I need
04:27 eythian Logo, Scratch, then Smalltalk (in the Squeak environment)
04:27 chilts heh
04:27 chilts where's the fun in that?
04:27 Brooke if I can't learn what a 6 year old can, there's no excuse.
04:28 eythian chilts: squeak is brilliant, you can inspect and modify any element of the running system
04:28 Brooke mmm firebug for a computer :)
04:29 eythian and if it's a GUI element you want to to inspect, you do so by right-clicking on it (or something like that)
04:29 eythian it's really good for doing f
04:29 eythian fast, effective UIs
04:29 * Brooke drools.
04:29 eythian (not for end-user software, but prototyping or messing about)
04:30 eythian If I were teaching someone, it'd be where I'd consider starting.
04:30 Brooke eythian++
04:31 eythian also, made as a collaboration between Disney and Apple many years ago.
04:31 Oak eythian++
04:49 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #390: STILL UNSTABLE in 43 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/390/
04:49 jenkins_koha magnus: Bug 6540 - Followup - koha-create would die without --configfile
04:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6540 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, magnus, ASSIGNED , Add more options to koha-create
05:04 Brooke http://www.mlkmemorial.org/
05:06 Brooke Hi
05:08 Nabonita hi
05:09 Nabonita i'm looking for koha developers whom we can hire to get some customizations
05:10 eythian Nabonita: a good place to start for that information is here: http://koha-community.org/support/paid-support/
05:11 rangi speaking of which i need to get wizzyrea to update our listing
05:24 Nabonita Thanks for the link. I contacted several companies from the paid support list but not got any response
05:30 jransom 14 minutes is probably a bit quick to be expecting response :D
05:33 Brooke check the RFCs on the wiki, too
05:33 Brooke there might be work in progress
05:33 Brooke or specced out and waiting for big bags of money
05:53 rangi I can confirm catalyst got no email
06:12 cait morning #koha
06:16 magnuse kia ora #koha
06:17 magnuse @wunder boo
06:17 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo Vi, Norway is 11.0�C (8:00 AM CEST on August 23, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 90%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Rising).
06:17 cait @wunder Konstanz
06:17 huginn cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 20.0�C (8:00 AM CEST on August 23, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 20.0�C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1016 hPa (Rising).
06:18 magnuse that sounds pleasant
06:22 hdl hi
06:22 hdl @wunder marseille
06:22 huginn hdl: The current temperature in Marseille / Marignane, France is 24.0�C (8:00 AM CEST on August 23, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1016 hPa (Rising).
06:22 hdl well seems a little under the reality
06:23 cait magnuse: still early, will probably be quite hot today
06:24 cait hi hdl
06:24 magnuse kia ora hdl
06:37 reiveune hello
06:37 wahanui niihau, reiveune
06:44 magnuse bonjour biblibre
06:46 sophie_m hello magnuse
06:50 julian hello!
07:17 rangi @wunder Wellington nz
07:17 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 11.0�C (7:00 PM NZST on August 23, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 30.42 in 1030 hPa (Steady).
07:17 magnuse sounds familiar...
07:26 raj100 hi
07:26 magnuse hiya raj100
07:26 raj100 hi magnuse
07:27 raj100 i have an issue with koha search can someone help me to resolve it
07:30 kf hi #koha
07:30 magnuse raj100: no guarantees, but describe your problem and we will see...
07:30 raj100 ?
07:31 raj100 thanks magnuse4
07:31 raj100 i will describe it now
07:33 raj100 2011] opac-search.pl: We called GetMarcBiblio with a biblionumber that doesn't e xist biblionumber= at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Biblio.pm line 1092., referer: http ://115.119.146.168:8083/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=a
07:34 raj100 this is the koha koha-opac-error_log
07:35 raj100 and i am using zebra indexing. indexing is done and the search results were showing the count with out content
07:36 rangi have you been deleting biblios?
07:36 raj100 no i have not
07:38 rangi normally that error occurs if an item/biblio has been deleted but is still in the index
07:38 rangi how many biblio do you have in your db?
07:38 raj100 ok i will check and tell you now
07:39 rangi first thing i would try is
07:39 rangi run rebuild_zebra.pl with -r -v -x b
07:39 rangi sorry -r -v -x -b
07:39 rangi to do a full reindex and see if that fixes it
07:40 rangi (make sure you do that as the user that runs zebrasrv)
07:42 francharb morning everyone
07:43 raj100 i will do and get back to you rangi
07:43 rangi cool, good luck
07:43 rangi http://infomalias.wordpress.com/2011/08/23/mla-koha-pilot-project-2011-gaining-momentum/
07:44 magnuse maldives? cool!
07:45 rangi yup
07:45 magnuse ooh, nice place for a kohacon... ;-)
07:45 rangi hehe yes
07:46 kf :)
07:48 magnuse rangi: did you map mu email address to "libriotech" in you stats? if so: way cool! :-)
07:48 magnuse s/mu/my/
08:00 kf @wunder konstanz
08:00 huginn kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 23.5�C (9:58 AM CEST on August 23, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: 21.0�C. Pressure: 29.97 in 1014.8 hPa (Falling).
08:03 rangi magnuse: yup i did
08:04 kf he also merged kf and cait for the irc statistics...
08:04 magnuse yay!
08:06 magnuse thanks rangi
08:06 rangi np
08:13 rangi http://www.nzlla.org.nz/documents/NZLLA%20Symposium%202011%20programme%20final%20revision%203%20.pdf <-- what im doing tomorrow and thursday
08:26 magnuse no koha on the programme? doing sales pitch?
08:30 rangi on thursday
08:30 rangi the automation panel, 2 of the 3 ppl are koha users
08:30 rangi (treasury and opus)
08:32 magnuse ah, cool!
08:45 kf :)
09:13 rangi Peak for #koha 58 (Tue Aug 23 01:54:31 2011)
09:13 rangi seems our busiest time is 2am nz time
09:20 kf hm
10:21 hdl rangi: looks quite usual to say hello to america.
10:24 rangi yep, that makes sense
11:28 raj478 hi rangi
11:29 raj478 your suggestion worked for me
11:29 raj478 thanks a lot.....
11:51 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6707] Add alternative, textual MARC editor <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6707>
11:55 druthb o
11:55 druthb o/
11:55 druthb \o
11:55 druthb \o/
11:56 hdl hi
11:56 druthb hi, hdl. :)
11:57 magnuse o/
11:57 magnuse The Story of Linux: Commemorating 20 Years of the Linux Operating System http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ocq6_3-nEw&feature=youtu.be
11:58 Agent_Dani \o
12:45 druthb g'morning, Joy! :D
12:47 Agent_Dani Hi talljoy and NateC
12:47 NateC hello!
12:48 talljoy hi
12:56 tcohen hi #koha
12:57 tcohen congrats for this 3.4.4 relase
13:21 rhck oops
13:28 slef wizzyrea: you got George Michaeled at lunch yesterday? Buh? A policeman followed you into the toilet? You were driving drugged? You were singing increasingly explicit pop songs?
13:28 slef hi all :)
13:29 oleonard Someone woke her up before they went-went?
13:29 magnuse kia or slef
13:30 rhcl is this something I need to drive down there and check on?
13:31 magnuse kia ora mtj
13:45 magnuse wow, 75 bugs need signoff!
13:45 magnuse next gbsd?
13:45 wahanui next gbsd is probably http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/2011-09-02_Global_bug_squashing_day
13:47 oleonard Wow, 92 bugs with "Does not apply" or "Failed QA" status...
13:48 wizzyrea slef: thanks for the morning giggle
13:49 wizzyrea more like, exposed to george michael songs against my will
13:49 wizzyrea I was instantly transported to the 80's
13:49 wizzyrea and I'm not sure I liked it
13:52 magnuse ah, so time travel ain't all what it's cranked up to be?
13:53 magnuse "yes, we invented time travel, but you can only go to 1983"
13:53 * wizzyrea shudders
13:54 kf hey
13:54 kf 1983 was not that bad
13:54 kf I think...
13:55 magnuse kf: i'm guessing you don't remember all of it?
13:56 kf better say I remember none of it...
13:56 magnuse hehe
13:56 jwagner I was too busy helping to organize the '83 Worldcon to notice (World Science Fiction Convention, that is)
13:56 wizzyrea I think I remember a trip to disneyland...
13:58 kf :)
13:58 kf see, a good year
13:59 magnuse and there's http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983..._%28A_Merman_I_Should_Turn_to_Be%29
13:59 pelletiermaxime I wasn't even born, so not a good year for me :p
14:00 * wizzyrea now feels old.
14:00 oleonard 1983 saw the release of Return of the Jedi, so that was a pretty big year for me
14:00 magnuse ooh
14:02 oleonard For more feeling old: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_in_film#Births
14:02 magnuse anyone had any sleep-induced revelations re the gamification thingy?
14:03 wizzyrea have you looked at the wiki today magnus?
14:03 wizzyrea i added a bunch of stuff after you wandered off with your ice cream :)
14:03 magnuse yeah, i just edited it even... ;-)
14:03 wizzyrea cool!
14:03 magnuse that was quick
14:03 kf :)
14:04 wizzyrea I'm a little bit uncomfortable still with letting other patrons put comments (a la facebook) on people's library profile
14:04 wizzyrea i can't explain why though
14:05 magnuse leaving that out would be fine by me
14:06 wizzyrea but yea, that brought up another idea
14:06 wizzyrea which is noted there
14:07 magnuse i'm thinking there is very little chance of the opac taking off as a social network anyway... but then again, there might be settings where it might work, like schools perhaps?
14:07 wizzyrea which is an OPAC first login tutorial
14:07 wizzyrea did you have a look at http://code.google.com/p/userinfuser/
14:07 wizzyrea not that we necessarily want to use it
14:07 wizzyrea but it might be a good example
14:08 wizzyrea on how to go about it
14:08 magnuse no, didn't have time to follow the links yet
14:11 magnuse yeah, looks interesting!
14:12 magnuse looks like it runs on Google App Engine, and has libraries for accessing the API from different programming languages?
14:12 wizzyrea *nod* I'm not sure that we'd necessarily want to run it alongside koha
14:12 wizzyrea but since it's GPL we can definitely use some of their ideas in creating our own, if we choose
14:13 magnuse yup
14:25 wizzyrea aside, I think the ability to show something (even an external link) at first login would be cool.
14:26 magnuse wizzyrea: you mean the first time ever a patron logs on?
14:26 wizzyrea yea
14:26 magnuse ah, yes that might be cool!
14:27 wizzyrea of course a generic first login tutorial would be helpful, but the ability to redirect to custom library specific content would be nice too.
14:27 magnuse yeah!
14:27 kf A help link for a custom toturial in koha's opac would be cool
14:27 kf similar to the online help in staff
14:27 magnuse yup
14:28 wizzyrea you guys have used dropbox right?
14:28 wizzyrea and you've logged into their web interface?
14:28 magnuse it could be displayed very obviously until the user clicks "do not show this again", perhaps?
14:28 wizzyrea yea, exactly
14:28 magnuse wizzyrea: yeah, a couple times
14:29 wizzyrea you know how they walk you through a set of steps before they leave you alone?
14:29 magnuse they have little boxes pointing at things?
14:29 wizzyrea I'm thinking of something like that
14:29 wizzyrea exactly
14:29 wizzyrea "Here is your account!"
14:29 wizzyrea "Renew your books here"
14:29 magnuse yeah, that's cool!
14:29 wizzyrea "see your reading history"
14:29 wizzyrea "contact the library"
14:29 wizzyrea etc
14:29 kf perhaps soething like a beginner's mode?
14:30 magnuse yeah
14:30 kf that can be turned off by the patron
14:30 magnuse yeah!
14:30 wizzyrea yes, that's the best term I've heard for it
14:30 kf and activated by patron category
14:30 kf on creation active if you say so for the category
14:30 wizzyrea *nod*
14:30 magnuse yay
14:31 wizzyrea (and an achievement for "completing" it)
14:31 wizzyrea :P
14:31 wizzyrea like dropbox
14:31 magnuse :-=
14:31 magnuse s/:-=/:-)/
14:33 wizzyrea http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Beginner_mode
14:34 kf it seems a little broken
14:34 kf where does beginner mode link link to?
14:34 wizzyrea well there's not a lot in that page
14:34 wizzyrea i'm not sure how it's broken it's working for me
14:35 kf the sidebar is at a odd place for me
14:35 kf lots of free space above it
14:35 kf might be something local
14:35 wizzyrea yea that happens sometimes on this wiki i'm not sure why
14:36 magnuse seems to happen when there isn't a category on the page?
14:36 libsysguy can anybody tell me the difference between a serial and a subscription
14:36 wizzyrea there should be a category now
14:38 magnuse yep, and it looks good
14:42 slef libsysguy: you subscribe to a serial?
14:43 slef anyone know why biblioitems.publicationyear wouldn't be linked to 260$c in a marc21 koha?
14:43 libsysguy so it is like Serial -> serialitems
14:43 libsysguy then serial ->subscription ->subscriptionhirtosry
14:44 wizzyrea http://library.rit.edu/liv/
14:44 * magnuse goes for a walk
14:46 kf slef: because we link copyrightdate to that
14:46 kf slef: and UNIMARC does publicationyear... or something like that
14:47 kf and don't ask me why
14:47 kf but it was something I ran into when I was testing acquisitions
14:52 slef kf: thanks. I'll look at copyrightdate again
14:54 slef kf: nope, we've not got copyrightdate linked to it either.
14:54 slef it's seriously unlinked. :-/
15:06 slef What's the process for getting a patch pushed to master back to Failed QA?
15:06 oleonard Ask rangi to revert it I think
15:07 oleonard What'd you find?
15:07 slef bug 6277 made koha-conf.xml executable
15:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6277 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , CustomLog by default
15:07 slef no, koha-httpd.conf
15:07 slef it's still executable in master today
15:07 wizzyrea d/oh
15:09 slef @later tell rangi please could you revert the patch from bug 6277, or chmod -x etc/koha-httpd.conf in master if that's simpler?
15:09 huginn slef: The operation succeeded.
15:20 aarkerio hi! where can I handle the "Shelving control number" ?
15:20 wizzyrea magnus_afk: you have cool friends :) http://findthefuture.nypl.org/#/
15:26 reiveune bye
15:29 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6765] Enable correct checksums for UTF-8 encoded data <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6765>
15:31 McLean_Library Hi all... trying to install Koha and running into a couple of dependency problems
15:32 McLean_Library I'm unable to install CGI::Session::Driver::memcached
15:33 McLean_Library also Memoize::Memcached
15:33 McLean_Library are these necessary if I don't intend to use the memcached server?
15:37 kf slef: hm strange!
15:37 kf slef: have you checked the default frameworks?
15:39 McLean_Library sorry, but what do you mean by default frameworks?
15:39 McLean_Library I believe the issue is related to Cache::Memcached
15:40 McLean_Library which is a prerequisite for both of my missing dependencies
15:40 kf McLean_Library: I was talking so slef - sorry for causing confusion
15:40 McLean_Library oops!
15:40 kf :)
15:40 kf and no, I don't think you need it when you don't use the memcache feature
15:41 slef kf: not yet
15:43 aarkerio McLean_Library, what cpan say?
15:44 aarkerio I mean: $sudo cpan CGI::Session::Driver::memcached
15:45 McLean_Library Hi -- it fails trying to install the Cache::Memcached prerequisite
15:46 wizzyrea which is?
15:46 slef @wunder weston-super-mare SOMERSET
15:46 huginn slef: The current temperature in Weston-Super-Mare, United Kingdom is 21.3�C (4:45 PM BST on August 23, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 29.97 in 1014.8 hPa (Steady).
15:46 McLean_Library 05_reconnect_timeout.t --> "Expected pause while connecting"
15:47 kf @wunder Konstanz
15:47 huginn kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 31.3�C (5:43 PM CEST on August 23, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 40%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. Pressure: 29.88 in 1011.7 hPa (Steady).
15:48 wizzyrea McLean_Library: can you sudo apt-get install memcached?
15:48 aarkerio McLean_Library, look in your distro repositories
15:48 aarkerio In debian-based: $sudo apt-get install ibcgi-session-driver-memcached-perl
15:48 McLean_Library @wizzyrea: I was able to install memcached using apt-get install memcache
15:48 huginn McLean_Library: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
15:48 * slef offers to take those 10 degrees from kf
15:49 wizzyrea and it's not working?
15:49 McLean_Library @aarkerio: I haven't tried that, but will now
15:49 huginn McLean_Library: downloading the Perl source
15:49 aarkerio or $sudo apt-get install libcache-memcached-perl
15:49 wizzyrea ^^ is probably a better one
15:49 aarkerio sometimes you need restart your webserver
15:50 oleonard McLean_Library: You don't need the "@." That's why the bot huginn is complaining.
15:50 McLean_Library thanks oleonard...
15:51 slef ah, differences between twitter and IRC
15:51 slef fewer people on IRC at any one time => less need to mark nicknames
15:55 McLean_Library ok, I apt-got libcache-memcached-perl and restarted apache
15:55 McLean_Library and was then able to cpan the missing modules successfully
15:55 McLean_Library thanks so much!
15:55 wizzyrea woohoo
15:55 McLean_Library now to run the makefile again and see if it's good
15:56 McLean_Library sweet!
15:56 McLean_Library thanks again
15:57 wizzyrea :) glad it's working
15:57 wizzyrea stop by anytime ;)
15:57 McLean_Library will do... maybe sooner than later :)
16:14 aarkerio mmm, I can add an item:
16:14 aarkerio http://decodic.incan.edu.mx/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=4
16:14 aarkerio but I can't find it using OPAC search
16:14 aarkerio why?
16:15 kf search faq?
16:15 wahanui search faq is at http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/searching/
16:15 kf :)
16:15 kf can you search at all?
16:16 slef errr, why's the search faq blank?
16:16 slef wizzyrea: someone's stolen the faq!
16:16 kf good question
16:16 wizzyrea oh dear, sec
16:17 kf aarkerio: is your zebrasrv running?
16:17 kf and have to go - bye all!
16:17 slef bye kf and enjoy!
16:18 slef @later tell cait solved - thanks for listening!
16:18 huginn slef: The operation succeeded.
16:22 * slef thinks a grue has got aarkerio
16:25 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6766] Template variable scope errors in holds template <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6766>
16:35 wizzyrea hrmph. apparently a plugin update at the faq categories.
16:35 * wizzyrea is annoyed.
16:35 wizzyrea s/at/ate
16:38 slef want me to report the bug?
16:39 wizzyrea sure
16:39 slef plugin version?
16:39 wizzyrea the content is all still there, just the categories are gone. Should be easy enough to recreate
16:39 wizzyrea 1.3.3
16:40 wizzyrea oh bless whoever fixed the paging on parameterized saved reports.
16:47 wizzyrea hrmph, somewhere there is a function that is transferring items, and you get something like Oskaloosa instead of OSKALOOSA
16:49 wizzyrea for tobranch
16:49 slef wizzyrea: what's the plugin's exact name? I don't have plugins in my dashboard :(
16:49 wizzyrea DS_FAQ
16:50 slef not found @ wordpress.org - got link? :(
16:50 wizzyrea yea, sec
16:50 slef wp-ds-faq?
16:51 wizzyrea yes, sorry, specificity fail
16:51 slef np. Reporting...
16:51 slef hrm, doing the password reset shuffle
17:02 slef wizzyrea: http://wordpress.org/support/topic/plugin-wp-ds-faq-upgrade-lost-categories
17:02 wizzyrea awesome, thanks
17:02 wizzyrea I will look into getting the categories re-inserted this afternoon
17:03 slef cool, thanks
17:08 cait nengard: around?
17:08 nengard yes
17:08 nengard is this about my most recent bug?
17:08 cait the duplicate subscription bug - I had a patch for that
17:08 nengard cause i just learned that i wan't on master
17:08 nengard k
17:08 cait ah
17:08 cait yep :)
17:09 cait it should be fixed on master :)
17:09 nengard i'll mark it invalid
17:09 cait I can give you the bug number
17:09 nengard no i trust you
17:09 nengard :)
17:09 cait it was the serials not working bug with 3 problems
17:09 cait bug 6305
17:09 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6305 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, RESOLVED FIXED, The serials are not working properly
17:10 cait nengard: I hope I didn't miss an instance or something - so perhaps you still want to make sure
17:10 nengard yeah i'll test on master just in case
17:10 nengard but i'm pretty sure i've had no problem on my system
17:11 nengard and it's just the system i was testing on
17:12 cait cool
17:13 cait I was worried I made a mistake there
17:21 wizzyrea argh!
17:21 wizzyrea somewhere there is a transit function that causes the tobranch to be mixed case
17:22 wizzyrea instead of all caps
17:24 cait oh?
17:24 wizzyrea http://paste.koha-community.org/14
17:24 cait weird!
17:24 wizzyrea i'll grant you
17:24 wizzyrea that example is weird anyway
17:24 cait hm
17:24 wizzyrea because a transit to/from the same place?
17:25 cait is the description Wellsvile too?
17:25 wizzyrea w.e.i.r.d
17:25 wizzyrea no
17:25 cait I wonder it's starting with a capital
17:25 cait where did it get that from?
17:25 wizzyrea the description would be Wellsville Community Library
17:25 cait ok
17:25 wizzyrea but it's not putting that all in
17:25 cait field is not long enough, but it's probably not what it#s doing
17:26 pastebot "wizzyrea" at 24.124.17.146 pasted "another example, not so weird" (1 line) at http://paste.koha-community.org/15
17:26 wizzyrea and it's only in tobranch, not frombranch
17:27 wizzyrea interestingly, it has to be a workflow thing
17:27 wizzyrea because some libraries generate a lot of these
17:27 wizzyrea others none
17:30 pastebot "wizzyrea" at 24.124.17.146 pasted "item with full contents of branchtransfers" (2 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/16
17:32 wizzyrea http://screencast.com/t/UkdCRjIZy
17:32 wizzyrea this is what it looks like in the interface when it happens
17:35 cait :(
17:36 cait which version are you currently?
17:36 wizzyrea this is pretty close to master.. sec
17:36 wizzyrea 3.05.00.006
17:36 cait hm
17:36 wizzyrea i think it's been happening for a while
17:36 cait but the cases are current, not older?
17:37 wizzyrea ribht
17:37 wizzyrea right*
17:37 cait hmm
17:37 cait weird
17:37 wizzyrea it doesn't happen *all* that often
17:38 wizzyrea of items currently in transit that haven't arrived (3000) probably less than a hundred have this condition?
17:38 wizzyrea dumb question of the day, how can I tell mysql to pay attention to case :P
17:39 cait I think mysql doesn#t pay attention
17:39 cait but you are right, shoud lbe possible to tell it to care
17:39 cait perhaps upper() lower()
17:40 wizzyrea (I want to ask it how many are mixed case)
17:41 cait ask for not uppercase
17:41 wizzyrea Ah
17:42 wizzyrea good call
17:42 cait not in (uppper('branchname')) perhaps
17:45 wizzyrea ^ syntax error :/
17:45 wizzyrea i'm piddling around with it
17:45 wizzyrea oh strcmp might work
17:45 wizzyrea because the strings would be different, I think?
17:45 wizzyrea maybe not.
17:47 wizzyrea mm no that's just length
17:48 slef bleah - it just took me that long to get my gravatar updated, with all the interruptions
17:48 slef I don't care. Nearly vuelta time.
17:49 slef what are we playing with?
17:49 wizzyrea well I have a case where a transfer has a tobranch of Xxxxxx instead of XXXXXX
17:49 wizzyrea and 1. I don't know why
17:50 wizzyrea and 2 I want to find only those in lower case.
17:50 wizzyrea to see how many there are.
17:51 wizzyrea upper/lower convert the strings
17:52 slef where branchname != upper(branchname) ?
17:52 wizzyrea hmm
17:53 chris_n hmm earthquake
17:53 slef chris_n: where?
17:53 jwagner Good heavens. We just had an earthquake ]
17:53 wizzyrea !!!!
17:53 cait oh
17:53 jwagner DC area here
17:53 wizzyrea whoa
17:53 chris_n MD
17:53 chris_n sorry
17:53 chris_n NC
17:53 chris_n I95 Exit 77
17:53 slef wow... is there a fault line there?
17:53 chris_n yes
17:53 cait wizzyrea: oh, my mistake
17:53 wizzyrea big earthquake?
17:54 wizzyrea nah, sok it may still work
17:54 oleonard I'm feeling shaking too
17:54 chris_n weird
17:54 chris_n the entire building was shaking
17:54 slef http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsus/ look for the red dot
17:54 wizzyrea ...seriously?
17:54 oleonard Seriously
17:54 slef mag >5
17:55 chris_n http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/at00lqe6x3.php
17:55 oleonard Very subtle here, but noticeable
17:55 jwagner looks like it was along I-64 between Charlottesville & Richmond
17:55 jwagner It was pretty noticeable here :-)
17:55 slef wow. I was there about this time last year.
17:56 slef google thinks it was in a river???
17:56 slef bbl
17:56 wizzyrea oh, I guess you're not so far away owen'
17:57 wizzyrea i forget how close stuff is together in the east.
17:57 wizzyrea still that's a long way away to feel an earthquake
17:57 jwagner preliminary magnitude 5.8
17:58 oleonard http://twitter.com/#!/search/earthquake
17:59 wizzyrea boston!
17:59 jcamins Wait, that _was_ an earthquake?
17:59 wizzyrea yes, apparently it was
17:59 oleonard jcamins never believes anything we say!
17:59 wizzyrea pentagon being evacuated after earthquake
17:59 wizzyrea !
18:00 jcamins oleonard: no, Shari and I were just discussing whether there had been an earthquake.
18:03 jcamins It looks like the answer is yes.
18:03 JesseM jcamins: I felt it in CT
18:04 Agent_Dani Yep. 5.8 (preliminary) centered in Virginia.
18:06 wizzyrea pretty shallow too
18:09 oleonard wizzyrea wanted one she could have a conversation with.
18:09 wizzyrea it's true
18:09 jwagner USGS now says 5.9 magnitude
18:10 jwagner And no, we don't generally get big ones in this part of the world. There have been a few local ones, but hardly noticeable. The last one, I thought a large truck was driving by.
18:12 wizzyrea *nod* 5.9 is pretty big
18:12 slef any fracking in Virginia?
18:12 wizzyrea or colorado?
18:12 wizzyrea probalby almost certainly in colorado
18:12 wizzyrea friend says she felt it in indiana
18:13 wizzyrea http://cdn2.mixrmedia.com/wp-uploads/ziggytek/blog/2011/08/camera-vibrate.jpg
18:14 wizzyrea lol
18:14 wizzyrea someone took a pic while it was going on
18:14 wizzyrea that's either an elaborate hoax or completely awesome.
18:22 chris_n it was about 30 mins from my parents
18:22 wizzyrea is anything damaged? reports of people hurt?
18:22 chris_n they said the roar was very loud
18:22 chris_n they walls of their log house were swaying
18:23 chris_n but no damage
18:23 chris_n thankfully
18:23 wizzyrea *nod*
18:23 wizzyrea that's what I care about
18:27 * chris_n wonders if it got confused and thought this was the west coast
18:34 jwagner picked up from USA Today site: The USGS suggests that the quake is the largest to originate in Virginia since May 31, 1897.
18:38 Agent_Dani That's what I hear from a friend in Richmond, VA, about 30 miles away from the epicenter.
18:40 jwagner The location details puts it Not Very Far At All from the North Anna nuclear power plant -- my sister used to be a health physics tech there. One trusts all the little atoms are safely locked down....
18:41 * chris_n used to fish in North Anna Lake
18:46 chris_n I think two nuc's have shut down for safety checks
18:48 oleonard https://twitter.com/#!/YUCKYBOT/status/106064231459323904
18:54 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6768] Two unused include files can be removed: error-top.inc and error-bottom.inc <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6768>
18:59 cait oleonard++
19:02 oleonard I never find so many bugs as when I'm trying to fix bugs.
19:03 cait yep
19:03 cait or when testing something else
19:06 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5028] Remove references to catmaintain.pl <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5028>
19:29 Brooke kia ora
19:29 rhcl Brooke!
19:29 Brooke homie g!
19:29 Brooke whazzah?
19:29 wizzyrea whaddup brooke
19:30 Brooke we had a wee rumbler
19:30 wizzyrea i heard!
19:30 Brooke the earthquake shack they have in museum is worse ;)
19:31 cait hi Brooke
19:32 wizzyrea hehe
19:32 Brooke guten tag
19:40 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 3431] Catalog by itemtype report pulling from holdingbranch <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3431>
19:42 cait owen superhero :)
19:43 oleonard Relevant to our interests: http://www.kalzumeus.com/2010/06/17/falsehoods-programmers-believe-about-names/
19:46 Brooke if you input my Indian name, it usually makes a deprecated system cry
19:49 rhcl If you input my Korean name into a Korean computer it laughs.
19:54 Brooke indeed. No r sound in Korean.
19:54 Brooke ooops
19:54 Brooke I meant no ok
19:54 Brooke bah
19:54 * Brooke was Brett for a number of years.
19:55 Brooke it was either that or Blake, and I'd rather be Brett.
20:00 rangi morning
20:00 oleonard Hi rangi
20:00 cait morning rangi
20:01 rangi @later tell slef will fix the koha-httpd.conf today, wifi permitting
20:01 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded.
20:02 rhcl Ah, no, I actually have a Korean name (from having been a Korean translator for 20 years and living there for 13 or so)
20:02 Brooke morena
20:04 rangi [off] sarumans tower crack on that earthquake?
20:07 slef thanks rangi
20:07 cait rain!
20:08 rangi im hoping that since this symposium is at the uni there will be some wifi
20:08 wizzyrea slef: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/08/23/halliburton-exec-takes-swig-fracking-fluid/?test=latestnews
20:09 cait hm lots of rain
20:09 cait @wunder konstanz
20:09 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 23.4�C (10:08 PM CEST on August 23, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 19.0�C. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014.4 hPa (Rising).
20:10 rangi frack that
20:10 slef wizzyrea: reminds me of http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/may/16/newsid_2913000/2913807.stm so meh
20:10 wizzyrea oh snap.
20:10 wizzyrea fwiw I'm not really for fracking.
20:11 wizzyrea I thought the existence of 'food grade' fracking liquid was interesting, however.
20:11 wizzyrea s/liquid/fluid
20:11 rhcl all the same I would decline to drink it
20:12 rangi ditto
20:12 wizzyrea tritto?
20:12 wizzyrea did I just make up a word?
20:12 slef Blackpool Shale Gas drilling suspended after quake - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-13599161
20:12 rangi was there any damage in the quake usians?
20:13 rhcl news isn't reporting much damage
20:13 wizzyrea lots of evacuations
20:13 wizzyrea but the pics I've seen of the devastation involve lawn chairs fallen over.
20:13 rangi heh
20:13 rangi I guess its pretty rare
20:13 rangi like us and snow
20:13 rhcl two nukes did shut down, but with no apparent damage
20:14 wizzyrea yea, they say there hasn't been one that big since late 1800's
20:14 rangi thats good
20:14 wizzyrea *nod*
20:14 rhcl someday though New Madrid will wake up wizzyrea and me
20:14 wizzyrea though it wasn't in the news, there was a nuclear plant in nebraska? that was completely surrounded by flood water
20:14 rangi how deep was it?
20:15 wizzyrea the flood water?
20:15 rangi the epicenter
20:15 rhcl very shallow = 1 km
20:15 wizzyrea oh 1km
20:15 rangi ahh yeah, ud feel that
20:15 wizzyrea re the nuclear plant, they had to levee the plant off and hope it held, otherwise they'd be in a similar state as fukushima.
20:16 rangi yikes
20:16 rangi ok my stop bbl I hope
20:16 wizzyrea mhm... let me try to find the article(s)
20:16 wizzyrea kk gl
20:16 wizzyrea http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/27/fort-calhoun-nuclear-flood-nebraska-plant_n_885067.html
20:23 oleonard This must be what you were talking about http://jmckinley.posterous.com/dc-earthquake-devastation
20:38 wizzyrea yep that's one of the ones I saw
20:38 wizzyrea there's a whole meme now
20:46 * chris_n suggests googling on "liquid earth"
20:46 rangi liquefaction
20:47 rangi and yes, there is cafenet here
20:47 wizzyrea noice
20:47 wizzyrea chris_n: was there some liquefaction around?
20:48 chris_n no, but some of the videos of it are quite impressive
20:48 chris_n it appears the national cathedral lost a couple of spires
20:50 wizzyrea http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/earthquake-playlist/2011/08/23/gIQAOe3UZJ_video.html
20:50 wizzyrea yea
20:50 wizzyrea never mind, the post sucks.
20:51 rangi there was a lot of it in christchurch, they are still cleaning it up
20:51 jenkins_koha Starting build 391 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #385 5 j 11 h ago)
20:51 rangi ok, pushed the fix for koha-httpd.conf
20:51 wizzyrea http://www.kmov.com/news/slideshows/Stones-fall-off-Washington-National-Cathedral-128266043.html?gallery=y&c=y&ref=%2F&img=1#gallery-image
20:54 chris_n off to home to make sure the chimneys are still standing :-)
20:54 wizzyrea ooo yea
20:54 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Fixing executable bit on koha-httpd.conf <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=73081505f59f2d6ba256fcab1226e43c93d7ae92>
20:54 druthb o/
20:54 rangi ohh a patch from ulrich at bsz
20:57 rhcl http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/08/23/android_gpl_fsf/
20:58 cait yep :)
21:13 rangi man brenda chawner is awesome
21:16 jcamins Has there really been no messages on any of the Koha lists all day?
21:16 ibeardsl1e rangi: I assume you've seen this? http://researcharchive.vuw.ac.nz/handle/10063/1710
21:16 wizzyrea hmm the last one I have is linda culberson at 12:24
21:16 jcamins Hm.
21:16 wizzyrea and hdl at 1:35am
21:16 jcamins I haven't gotten any.
21:16 wizzyrea several patches from owen, too
21:17 ibeardsl1e "Factors Influencing Participant Satisfaction with Free/Libre and Open Source Software Projects"
21:17 jcamins wizzyrea: any chance I could persuade you to try sending me an e-mail?
21:17 rangi yup, brenda interviewed me :)
21:17 wizzyrea i'd love to pm me your address
21:17 rangi jcamins/wizzyrea: i saw the mail on the bugs list
21:18 ibeardsl1e should aim to involve her in the next academy
21:19 rangi oh definitely
21:23 rangi ohh the good stuff now
21:23 rangi copyright
21:28 luisb inquiry: would there be any adverse affect of my inserting library data directly into branches instead of using the interface?
21:33 rangi no
21:33 rangi as long as you put all the info in
21:33 luisb aye, thanks!
21:35 rhcl well laid out thesis
21:35 luisb have there been any thoughts of having some sort of import facility for libraries?
21:35 luisb er, branches
21:35 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #391: STILL UNSTABLE in 44 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/391/
21:35 jenkins_koha Chris Cormack: Fixing executable bit on koha-httpd.conf
21:38 rangi nope, becuase usually the number is quite small, and its about as fast to just add them :)
21:38 rangi but we definitely accept a patch :)
21:38 rangi note to self, check out islandora
21:51 wizzyrea ooo kay gotta stop by the store on the way home ttyl!
21:51 rangi cya later
22:09 rangi man law librarians love RSS
22:10 mtj heya chris , i didnt know that....
22:11 rangi neither did i
22:11 rangi its all about 'current awareness'
22:11 rangi the lawyers want to know whats new at all times
22:11 rangi http://identi.ca/notice/81468800
22:14 jcamins Aggregator-type page?
22:14 jcamins And, yeah, they sure do like RSS.
22:15 rangi well, what these librarians are doing, is building a page using sharepoint (puke)
22:15 rangi that aggregates feeds for the lawyers to look at
22:15 jcamins Ah. I see.
22:18 Irma G'day #koha
22:18 rangi i figure something like eric leases mylibrary
22:18 rangi http://search.cpan.org/dist/MyLibrary/
22:19 rangi i reckon a bunch of corporate libraries would do the same
22:20 rangi too many ideas, not enough hours :)
22:20 rangi hi Irma
22:20 rangi and hi druthb
22:21 druthb hi, rangi
22:21 jcamins rangi: truer words were never spoken.
22:21 Irma hi rangi .... Enjoy Wed and Thursday...Law librarians are a vivid informed and fun group!
22:21 jcamins And, on that thought, off I go.
22:24 rangi what the hell
22:29 rangi Irma: yes they are :)
22:29 Irma Quick question: what should be looked at when > Searching >Keyword> Barcode> works but Searching > Barcode does not work?
22:30 Irma Circulation> Barcode search works ...
22:30 Irma Strange ...
22:31 rangi hmm
22:31 * mtj fires up his twitter/identica client after a few weeks of downtime
22:31 Irma hi mtj :-)
22:31 mtj Irma: that needs a screenshot
22:31 mtj heya
22:32 Irma mtj ;-)
22:33 mtj yeah, i cant visualize where your 'Searching > Barcode' is
22:34 Irma mtj go to Search .... in advanced searching look for Barcode under the Keyword drop down menu ...
22:34 mtj in opac?
22:42 mtj fyi: i've confirmed the bug is in Irma's 3.2 koha, *only*
22:42 mtj so all good
22:43 Irma correction: this koha 3.2. is not hosted by us but another support company. CALYX does training etc....
22:44 mtj cool
22:44 mtj try a full zebra re-index 1st
22:46 mtj but yeah, its a weird bug on that koha
22:47 mtj or buggy framework mapping , is my next guess...
22:49 rangi thatd do it
22:49 mtj hmmm, frwrk mapping looks ok for barcode => 952$p
22:49 mtj so its not that
22:51 aarkerio so, where is the HTML opac template?
22:52 Irma yes it's a nuisance I would like to help the librarian get solved ...
22:52 rangi aarkerio: sorry? what are you asking?
22:52 mtj aaah, leading 000's in your barcode , is the bug
22:53 aarkerio I mean where is the base HTML code from all the OPAC pages?
22:53 aarkerio the <body> and so
22:54 Irma ah mtj are you sure? the number was 532 then one zero was added to match the actual barcode's number of 0532
22:54 mtj Irma: i've confirmed that bug on another 3.2
22:55 Irma thanks mtj will report back when we have it nailed!
22:55 rangi aarkerio: if you want to customise the opac, editing the templates will make it very very very hard for you to upgrade in the future, you are better off using the sysprefs and jquery and css like
22:56 rangi http://www.myacpl.org/koha/?p=160
22:56 rangi if you want to make changes in the template and send upstream as patches
22:56 rangi then they are in koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/prog/en/modules/
22:57 aarkerio mmm, perfect!! thanks!
22:59 rangi but beware, local changes that arent done using the sysprefs, make it hard for you to upgrade, so upstream or use the sysprefs :)
23:03 mtj aarkerio: rangi gives you *very* wise advice :p
23:11 eythian anyone tried to sign up to translations.k-c.org? I don't seem to be getting an activation email from it.
23:13 rangi translate.koha-community.org ?
23:13 rangi i signed up ages ago
23:13 rangi so havent tried recently
23:13 eythian err yeah, translate
23:16 rangi i remember when charlie did
23:16 rangi it took a while
23:16 eythian oh, it just came through :)
23:17 rangi there ya go
23:17 eythian I'm just impatient :)
23:46 druthb o/
23:49 Agent_Dani \o