Time Nick Message 22:44 druthb o/ 17:50 lastn0de thanks! :) 17:50 lastn0de cool 17:49 jcamins_away You're welcome. I may or may not be here, in case you have any questions. ;) 17:49 lastn0de i will idle here and be back later to talk :) 17:49 lastn0de thank you jcamins_away 17:49 lastn0de thank you very much cait_afk 17:47 cait be back later 17:47 cait ok, have to leave for a little while 17:46 cait and there is an option to make koha generate a number when you catalog items 17:46 lastn0de that is pretty sweet 17:46 cait yes, there is a module for printing of barcode labels 17:45 lastn0de wwkoha will generate the barcode too? 17:45 cait but you can also use preprinted barcodes 17:45 cait koha can generate those numbers and you can print them :) 17:45 lastn0de does koha do that 17:45 lastn0de so that barcode system 17:45 cait you need a unique number for each book 17:45 cait or 2 different editions 17:45 cait isbn will not work when you have 2 copies of a book 17:45 lastn0de ok 17:45 cait no you should create your own numbers 17:43 lastn0de or? 17:43 lastn0de is that isbn barcode 17:42 lastn0de used to checkin/checkout 17:42 lastn0de the barcode tags 17:42 lastn0de http://vimeo.com/channels/kohails#14802047 17:42 cait before you can't use the advanced search options 17:42 cait lastn0de: lib-web-cats is also a good source, but to limit your search to koha and school library you need to get a free account :( 17:41 cait :) 17:41 cait http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_Users_Worldwide 17:41 jcamins_away http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_Users_Worldwide 17:41 cait http://library.ashs.school.nz 17:40 cait not sure about the school system 17:40 cait is the nz school k-12? 17:39 cait hm 17:38 jcamins_away I don't know the URLs of any off the top of my head. 17:38 lastn0de but id like to see a school taht uses it too 17:38 lastn0de several universities here in sri lanka run it 17:38 lastn0de could you guys link me to a K-12 library site powered by koha maybe? 17:37 lastn0de yeah im reading the wiki now cait 17:36 cait lastn0de: debian.koha-community.org 17:35 cait a bird is nice - flying Koha 17:34 lastn0de http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_Koel#In_culture 17:33 wahanui well, interesting is good 17:33 jcamins_away Interesting. 17:33 lastn0de (Asian Koel or cuckoo bird) 17:33 lastn0de in the Sinhala language 17:33 lastn0de Koha is actually a bird in Sri Lanka 17:33 lastn0de btw fun tidbit 17:32 lastn0de im just reading the squeeze install docs right now 17:32 lastn0de sweet 17:32 lastn0de so updates etc just get pulled in? 17:32 jcamins_away You have to add the apt sources, but that's it. 17:31 lastn0de ! 17:31 lastn0de nice 17:31 lastn0de id prefer if i didnt have to do too much to upgrade 17:31 jcamins_away Debian. 17:31 lastn0de speakingof which, is there a distro on which koha just intsalls ezpz using teh package manager? 17:30 lastn0de wanna get a linuxbox in to the admin/office anyway, so koha and any other foss stuff can run 17:29 lastn0de (also gonna try and push schooltool for school admin) 17:29 lastn0de so kinda thinking ahead to make our collective lives easier 17:29 lastn0de im working there part time, but hope to go fulltime by theend of the year 17:29 lastn0de not a lot of kids, not a lot of books 17:29 lastn0de it's a pilot school 17:28 lastn0de lol 17:28 lastn0de maybe even a book 17:28 lastn0de not sure 17:28 cait offline meaning? something like excel? 17:28 lastn0de t_t 17:28 lastn0de it is cataloged offline 17:28 lastn0de no no 17:28 cait or csv? 17:28 cait do you know if the system can expor tmarc? 17:28 lastn0de so i wanna wow the crap outta them with koha 17:28 cait hm 17:27 lastn0de i have a feelingit's gonna be something dumb, c;lunky, windows 17:27 cait they implement the standard a bit differently or don't support all search fields - most support title and author 17:27 lastn0de inthis software someone is bringing along 17:27 lastn0de and now she doesnt want to do it again 17:27 lastn0de part of the reason is that the librarian had cataloged 3k books by hand 17:27 cait depends really on the target you ar using 17:27 jcamins_away Part of the title usually works best. 17:27 cait or author 17:27 cait is also good 17:27 cait title words 17:27 lastn0de so what will it need 17:27 jcamins_away However (and this is a big proviso), chances are good that you won't be able to find the record using ISBN. :( 17:27 cait lastn0de: you are welcome :) 17:26 lastn0de thanks for answering 17:26 jcamins_away Or, rather, yes, that's the process. 17:26 lastn0de i realise these arenoob questions 17:26 jcamins_away lastn0de: kind of. 17:26 lastn0de then the z39.50 search will use that number? 17:26 lastn0de i will need to scan it into the isbn field 17:26 lastn0de but i mean from a book th ebarcode scans the ISBN right 17:26 cait yes, not all targets support isbn 17:25 cait look for z39.50 17:25 jcamins_away lastn0de: you can use Z39.50 to get records from other libraries, but there's no guarantee you'll be able to find them using ISBN. 17:25 cait and you can search by isbn 17:25 cait and download records 17:25 lastn0de sorry for typos, ssh is lagging 17:25 cait you can search z39.50 targests 17:25 lastn0de *web 17:25 lastn0de and grab the book details from teh wbe? 17:25 lastn0de into fast entry mode 17:24 lastn0de just allow us to enter ISBN scanned code only 17:24 lastn0de can koha do stuff like 17:24 cait if it works at all it will work with koha... 17:24 cait if you can scan into a text file it will work for koha too 17:23 lastn0de imbehindthe times i see 17:23 lastn0de wait what 17:23 cait put your cursor into the right field and scan 17:23 cait scanners work like keyboards basically 17:23 jcamins_away lastn0de: get a USB scanner, plug it in, and you're good to go. :) 17:22 jcamins_away cait: no, you had it right. AWS provides covers in addition to EC2. 17:22 lastn0de i was wondeirng how that works 17:22 lastn0de since this is web based 17:22 lastn0de is there a way to plug in a barcode scanner 17:22 lastn0de one question 17:22 lastn0de i meant amazon web services 17:22 lastn0de except having koha and not having it accessible from home is dumb 17:22 cait sorry, got confused 17:21 cait aws is something else... 17:21 cait ah 17:21 lastn0de at school 17:21 lastn0de though production might have to be on LAN 17:21 cait covers :) 17:21 cait aws is nice 17:21 lastn0de and set this up 17:21 cait but during the week there are always a lot of helpful people around 17:21 lastn0de i think im gonna get an AWS slice 17:21 lastn0de i will def come back 17:21 lastn0de np 17:21 cait and feel free to come back and ask questons - weekends are a bit silent here 17:21 lastn0de im an english teacher, not a programmer ^^ 17:21 lastn0de id just know how to set it up, is what i meant 17:21 cait :) 17:21 lastn0de i dont plan on messing with the code at all actually 17:20 lastn0de yes 17:20 cait it makes updates much harder later 17:20 cait using your perl skills on koha should only be a last resort 17:20 cait lots of things can be configured 17:18 cait yes, could be a good staring point if oyu don't want to use all fields from the marc format 17:18 lastn0de what im looking for? 17:18 lastn0de is fast add catalog 17:18 cait ok :) 17:18 lastn0de im on the manual right notw actually 17:17 lastn0de right! 17:17 cait and you can define csv profiles for export 17:17 lastn0de oh marc is a file format? 17:17 lastn0de ok 17:17 cait you can export marc 17:17 lastn0de of all data? 17:17 lastn0de does koha do csv export 17:17 cait in the menu documentation 17:17 lastn0de also since ill need to sell this over some dumb proprietary system theyre trying to implement 17:17 cait you can also find the english manual there 17:17 cait make sure you get your koha from koha-community.org 17:17 lastn0de ok 17:17 lastn0de im reasonably fimilar with *nix/perl 17:17 cait a lot can be done 17:16 lastn0de i just need to know what can be done 17:16 cait the fast add framework might be a good start for that 17:16 lastn0de iw ill def get down and dirty once i decide on koha 17:16 cait and create one with only the few fields you need 17:16 lastn0de could you guys maybe point me to a relevant doc page 17:16 cait but you can configure the forms in cataloging 17:16 lastn0de ok 17:16 jcamins_away lastn0de: you can use a simplified framework. 17:16 cait yes, marc is a bit mean 17:16 lastn0de yeah i know 17:16 lastn0de is somewaht overkill 17:15 cait for free 17:15 cait good thing about open source is that you can try it 17:15 lastn0de i mean the MARC format 17:15 lastn0de ok 17:15 cait ah, I am from Germany 17:15 lastn0de :) 17:15 lastn0de Colombo, Sri Lanka 17:15 cait only curious :) 17:15 cait where are you located? 17:15 lastn0de but justtrying to help the librarian out 17:15 lastn0de (I'm not a librarian, I'm an Englisht eacher) 17:15 cait especially in opac lots of features can be deactivated 17:15 lastn0de we have about 3000 books 17:14 lastn0de im just going throughteh docs 17:14 lastn0de ok 17:14 cait and I think a lot of schools are using koha already 17:14 lastn0de i like koha because of the community and so on 17:14 cait hm there are lots of things you can deactivate 17:14 lastn0de for use in a small K-12 school library for example 17:14 lastn0de cait: i was just wondering if there was a way to dumb down koha a bit 17:13 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6458] incorrect parsing result in translation processing <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6458> 17:04 cait hi lastn0de 17:03 lastn0de hi 12:27 huginn druthb: The current temperature in http://www.nhpaweather.com, New Holland, Pennsylvania is 18.4�C (8:27 AM EDT on August 20, 2011). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: 18.0�C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1015.8 hPa (Rising). Dense fog advisory in effect until 11 am EDT this morning... 12:27 druthb @wunder intercourse, pa 12:22 huginn cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 27.0�C (2:00 PM CEST on August 20, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 20.0�C. Pressure: 30.10 in 1019 hPa (Falling). 12:22 cait @wunder Konstanz 11:36 druthb Hi 11:36 cait hi druthb :) 09:23 cait aber immerhin :) 09:20 adnc koha läuft so wie ich es will, aber komme kaum dazu mehr zu machen ;) 09:20 adnc recht viel zutun, sonst läufts ganz ok. 09:19 cait ganz gut und dir? 09:19 adnc wie geht es dir? 09:19 adnc guten morgen cait 09:18 cait guten morgen adnc 08:50 cait rebooting 08:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6756 major, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Patron anonymizing tool reports false success 08:40 cait bug 6756 08:40 cait and it's not in the online help file 08:38 cait yes, but this doesn't help the normal user :) 08:33 rangi its in the code in a couple of places, and noted with a comment 08:30 cait reporting bug 08:30 rangi :) 08:30 cait yes, now it works :) 08:29 cait rangi++ 08:29 cait retrying it now with anon patron :) thx for your help! 08:29 cait which is really bad 08:29 cait instead of reporting success 08:29 rangi yep 08:29 cait so the bug is: make it check for the anon patron and tell you if you don't have one 08:29 rangi but yes, it should say what its doing 08:28 rangi so it doesnt try to null it, it tries to set it to the anonymous patron, which is better 08:28 rangi my $anonymouspatron = (C4::Context->preference('AnonymousPatron')) 08:27 rangi its a syspref 08:27 cait i will try it 08:27 rangi yeah 08:27 cait only there is no mention anywhere that you have to set up an anonymous patron 08:27 cait yep probably 08:27 cait oh 08:27 cait http://paste.koha-community.org/13 08:26 rangi i wonder if thats doing it 08:26 rangi # The anonymisation will fail quietly if AnonymousPatron is not a valid entry 08:26 rangi # The default of 0 does not work due to foreign key constraints 08:23 cait I will do more testing 08:23 cait ok 08:23 rangi not issues 08:22 rangi borrownernumber can be null in old_issues 08:20 cait bad thing is koha says it's successful, while nothing changes apparently 08:20 cait ruth wrote a script to run the anonymization from command line that I tested and it gave me an sql error 08:19 cait because we don't allow borrowernumber to be null now 08:19 cait I think some recent changes might have broken it 08:19 cait m 08:19 cait h 08:13 rangi no idea, i have never used it 08:13 cait it reported no errors but old_issues was the same before and after 08:13 cait rangi: I thought it would replace the borrowernumber in old_issues with null or sometihng, but this doesn't seem to work right now 08:12 cait rangi: do you know how the patron anymization should work? 08:12 cait :) 07:52 Oak :] 07:52 cait Salaam Oak 07:51 Oak hello #koha 07:51 Oak Guten Morgen cait 07:47 * cait is trying to figure out flipflops 07:44 cait as always hehe 07:44 cait I think i am the only person around to miss the rain :) 07:43 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 7.0�C (7:00 PM NZST on August 20, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Windchill: 6.0�C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Steady). 07:43 rangi @wunder wellington nz 07:43 rangi was quite nice here too 07:39 cait going to be warm today 07:39 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 21.8�C (9:35 AM CEST on August 20, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 19.0�C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1019.9 hPa (Steady). 07:39 cait @wunder Konstanz 07:36 cait evening rangi :) 07:36 rangi hi cait 04:19 glernil ? 04:19 glernil how can i update 3.2 to 3.4 using the debian package 04:19 glernil good day!