Time Nick Message 23:28 libsysguy sweet looked like it worked...or at least didn't give me an error this time 23:24 libsysguy i wish i had a test book to see if it worked...maybe i can go upstairs in the dark and find one lol 23:24 libsysguy applied 23:23 rangi pushed 23:23 libsysguy it was just missing an ( 23:23 libsysguy yeah that is what the bracket thing was too 23:22 rangi fixing and pushing 23:22 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6744 - Acknowledge the actual es-ES translators <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bc5aa5281d4bc29c8398d3411db4b03e1601ad4f> 23:22 rangi should be strftime 23:22 rangi libsysguy: that strftimei is a typo 23:20 jenkins_koha Starting build 383 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 23:20 libsysguy sweet thanks :) 23:20 rangi http://perldoc.koha-community.org/ 23:19 libsysguy bg do you know where the perldoc for koha is online? 23:04 rhcl I need to go check on a program thats starting right now...ltr 23:00 bg ;) 23:00 bg whoops 23:00 bg her 23:00 bg I think I need to prod here 22:59 * bg has always wondered why nora doesn't hang out here during the day 22:59 bg yup that sounds about right - and maybe nora too 22:57 rhcl wizzy I _think_ was interested in receipts too...maybe we should get her online and we can talk about that effort 22:57 meliameggs :) 22:57 bg meliameggs started last week and she's awesome 22:57 bg yup so we've got someone to help him out now 22:56 libsysguy i think it is because he is lol 22:56 rhcl sekjal always seems like he's busy w/ stuff... 22:55 bg yup I'm sure he does… meliameggs is going to be helping sekjal out 22:55 rhcl We talked about it with him some 22:54 rhcl I think sekjal has this in his notes somewhere 22:54 rhcl even that is a little rudimentary 22:54 bg great rhcl I'll let meliameggs know 22:54 bg the idea would be that you could edit receipts like you could edit notices 22:54 rhcl but yea, if we could get some other input we'd be willing to help fund 22:53 rhcl I think it turned out to be more expensive than what we thought, so have it on hold 22:53 bg it's a not so small project… so we needed a few libraries to join 22:53 libsysguy yeah I should have done that from the start 22:53 rhcl you know, we were talking about funding work on that too....customizable receipts 22:52 libsysguy ok so where is that template file 22:52 bg one way to do it so you can upgrade easily is to create another theme instead of prod 22:52 rhcl OK, some info is apparently drawn from from administration - libraries and groups, but other than that bg is right 22:51 libsysguy aww rhcl got my hopes up 22:51 bg yes libsysguy you need to edit the templates 22:51 bg I believe that's a development that we are/were trying to get funded 22:51 libsysguy i mean...that'd be super nice if it was 22:50 rhcl hang on, maybe I'm lying 22:50 bg rhcl: I don't think so - not yet 22:49 libsysguy is it s syspref? 22:49 rhcl that's done through the staff interface 22:49 libsysguy add/remove 22:49 rhcl you want to edit the file, or add fields and info to the receipt? 22:48 libsysguy but i can't seem to find that file 22:48 libsysguy tmpl* 22:47 libsysguy it looks like it is moremember-receipt.tml 22:47 libsysguy anybody know how i can edit receipts? 22:41 mtj http://munin.kohaaloha.com/kohaaloha.com/fugu.kohaaloha.com-apc.html 22:40 mtj ooh, it looks like it got its 1st 'incident' during the recent snow-storm 22:39 mtj http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/apcupsd 22:38 mtj rangi: i have a happy ups chatting to apcupsd on debian 22:14 rangi cya later 21:59 wizzyrea humbug have to go. bbl possibly 21:57 libsysguy ok cool 21:57 rangi just attach a patch to the bug, ill apply it 21:57 libsysguy hehe the power of the admin is at work here 21:56 rangi i can, but you cant 21:56 libsysguy is that just something you can do without submitting a patch? 21:56 libsysguy just not sure how to merge it into that branch 21:56 rangi yup 21:56 libsysguy i guess i can commit just that file 21:56 libsysguy awesome thanks rangi...there was something else i spotted today that i went ahead and fixed (a bracketing error) 21:55 rangi libsysguy: yeah ill try to get time to look today 21:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6727 critical, P5, ---, gmcharlt, REOPENED , can't import frameworks 21:55 wizzyrea bug 6727 21:55 wizzyrea 6727 is the bug 21:54 libsysguy rangi did you see that other bug in hourly? 21:51 wizzyrea this must be the thing nicole came up against 21:51 wizzyrea yea it does it without the patch too 21:50 rangi yeah i think so 21:50 wizzyrea let me roll it back and see if it's still the same ( I bet it is) 21:50 wizzyrea unrelated to the patch at hand. 21:50 wizzyrea a different problem 21:49 wizzyrea this might be something else 21:49 wizzyrea no, that's not it 21:48 * wizzyrea tries editing something else. 21:48 wizzyrea can't/shouldn't 21:48 wizzyrea maybe the one I'm setting as mandatory can't be changed? 21:48 wizzyrea was a 'mandatory' setting 21:48 wizzyrea what I edited 21:47 wizzyrea can you do this rangi - export a framework, edit it (any way), then reimport 21:47 wahanui interesting is sometimes bad or sometimes good 21:47 wizzyrea interesting 21:45 wizzyrea i'm doing this through logmein 21:43 wizzyrea 1s 21:43 wizzyrea k i will try that 21:43 rangi pad and save it, and try again 21:43 rangi did you try exportint and importing on windows with no edits, and then open it in word pard 21:43 wizzyrea hm 21:43 wizzyrea soo... 21:42 wahanui interesting is sometimes bad or sometimes good 21:42 wizzyrea interesting 21:42 wizzyrea aand it works on my mac 21:41 wizzyrea let me see if I can export/import from this computer here, instead of windows 21:41 rangi all it does is change 2 chomps 21:40 rangi that patch should have no effect on that 21:40 rangi hmm yeah 21:40 wizzyrea http://screencast.com/t/T7riHUzzAb7q 21:40 wizzyrea this is the error 21:39 wizzyrea let me send you this file I'm trying with 21:38 Brooke office puts gobbledygook into things 21:38 Brooke WordPad ftw 21:38 rangi to test i just added some \r and made sure they were stripped 21:38 wizzyrea it may have to do with office 21:37 wizzyrea un mo 21:37 rangi hmmm 21:36 wizzyrea hmph indeed 21:35 Brooke hmph 21:35 wizzyrea but it doesn't seem to 21:35 wizzyrea and supposedly with this patch it's supposed to work? 21:35 wizzyrea then tried to reimport it 21:34 wizzyrea I exported a framework on windows, edited it 21:34 Brooke what? 21:34 wizzyrea hmm 21:22 wizzyrea it's one of the abominations in the lab 21:22 rangi hehe 21:21 wizzyrea that's amusing. 21:21 wizzyrea my... ha 21:21 wizzyrea i'm gonna run over to my windows box 21:21 * magnuse better catch some sleep - see y'all soon! 21:21 wizzyrea k 21:21 rangi can you still import a framework 21:21 rangi but all that needs to be tested, is with it applied 21:21 rangi not handy 21:20 wizzyrea you have a test file for that? 21:19 wizzyrea i bet so 21:19 rangi not sure 21:19 wizzyrea oh I wonder if that's why nicole's thing was failing yesterday? 21:19 rangi it would be committer 150! 21:19 rangi and ian and paul are away 21:19 rangi but it only has my signoff 21:18 rangi id love to push it 21:18 rangi can i get one or 2 more sign offs on it 21:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6723 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, wvanwanrooij, ASSIGNED , allow framework import with CRLF 21:18 rangi bug 6723 21:18 Brooke I could kidnap Ata for a day, but you wouldn't appreciate the resulting sugar high :P 21:18 rangi you have to guess and do it 21:18 rangi that was it 21:18 wizzyrea lulz 21:17 Brooke now what? 21:17 Brooke we owe ye 21:17 wizzyrea magnuse++ 21:17 Brooke hehe 21:17 wizzyrea HA 21:17 magnuse ask, don't ask to ask! ;-) 21:17 rangi i have a favour to ask 21:17 rangi yo, koha peeps 21:06 Brooke you taunter, you 21:05 huginn bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 24.4�C (2:04 PM PDT on August 17, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 18.0�C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012.1 hPa (Falling). 21:05 bg @wunder 93109 21:04 Brooke kia ora 21:04 rangi thats what im learning this morning 21:04 rangi http://blog.shadypixel.com/monitoring-a-ups-with-nut-on-debian-or-ubuntu-linux/ 21:03 magnuse nice 21:03 rangi technically yup ;) 21:00 magnuse does that mean huka falls are the snow falls? 20:59 magnuse thanks, rangi! 20:59 magnuse hehe: https://twitter.com/#!/stephenfry/status/103901969386717184 20:57 rangi thats the only one i know 20:57 rangi huka 20:56 magnuse and is there just one? 20:55 magnuse rangi: so what's the maori word for snow? 20:55 magnuse yay 20:54 wizzyrea cute 20:54 wizzyrea oh and snow yoda. 20:53 wizzyrea ping gmcharlt, they're building snow daleks in christchurch. 20:53 wizzyrea lol a snow dalek 20:53 rhcl ic 20:53 rangi just not to sea level in the north 20:53 rangi every year 20:53 rangi oh theres snow in the south island and on the mountains in the north 20:52 rhcl Is there a maori word for snow? As I recall, there isn't a proper word for snow in Thai, but in the far north some of the hill tribes do have a word for it, though most of them have never seen snow in their lifetimes 20:51 rhcl re: images...some fair snow sculpting there 20:50 rangi once every 50 years 20:50 ibeardslee it doesn't 20:50 rhcl I was thinking it didn't snow so much down there 20:48 rangi http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/5461075/Stuff-Top-10-snow-moments 20:47 rangi wanna see photos? 20:42 rangi in the north island 20:42 rangi we got snow to sea level, which never happens 20:42 rangi but yes 20:42 rangi not today 20:40 rhcl is it snowing at all down there-saw a report saying there was "lots" of snow? 20:39 rangi now with my workstation on a ups 20:39 rangi back 20:34 * oleonard too 20:28 magnuse g'night cait 20:27 cait good night all! :) 20:17 magnuse that was beautiful... 20:17 magnuse tcohen++ 20:14 feliznavidad :) 20:14 feliznavidad works, thank you very much! 20:13 tcohen feliznavidad: sudo aptitude install libbusiness-isbn-perl 20:12 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6728] Table sorter for receiving acquisitions <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6728> 20:12 tcohen sudo aptitude install libbusiness-isbn-perl 20:10 feliznavidad hi guys! i'm trying to install koha 3.4 on a ubuntu lucid, and succeed until "make test" fails with the following error(s): http://pastebin.com/nTw37MRX 20:08 tcohen bye #koha 20:07 magnuse guten abend cait und #koha 20:06 cait hi magnuse 19:57 rangi my stop bbiab 19:57 * cait shares cookies with her friends 19:56 wizzyrea woot oleonard is here (again) 19:55 rangi :) 19:54 cait hi oleonard 19:54 cait little somethings are good 19:53 * oleonard is happy to have a little something to tinker with. 19:50 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6743] displayFacetCount not working <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6743> 19:43 wizzyrea phew 19:43 cait yay! 19:43 rangi back to normal 19:43 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 8.0�C (7:00 AM NZST on August 18, 2011). Conditions: Rain Showers. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Windchill: 3.0�C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Rising). 19:43 rangi @wunder wellington nz 19:38 wizzyrea AHA 19:38 cait was by pm 19:37 libsysguy me dos :) 19:37 wizzyrea sorry I didn't read every single line ^.^ I'm glad you got it working 19:37 wizzyrea yes, that's the other thing 19:37 wizzyrea cool 19:37 libsysguy i didn't have my all all all value set 19:36 libsysguy yes I do...cait got it working for me 19:35 wizzyrea i vaguely remember this problem 19:35 wizzyrea libsysguy: do you have in your sysprefs a setting for max allowed holds? 19:35 cait mornign rangi 19:34 rangi morning 19:17 libsysguy cait++ 19:04 cait you can do it 19:03 cait it's really not that hard ;) 19:03 cait so didn't work? 18:57 libsysguy she usually handles the circ rules 18:57 * libsysguy wishes his boss was here 18:56 cait it's the trick :) 18:56 libsysguy oh ok 18:56 cait even if you overwrite it by something else 18:56 cait make a default defalut default rule 18:56 cait no 18:55 libsysguy and it is a book that i am trying to place a hold on 18:55 libsysguy so i set a default rule for all libraries to allow holds on tyle BOOK 18:55 libsysguy hmm i still get that error 18:52 cait and if there is still a system preference, maxreserves, check that too 18:51 cait and the reserves in the circ rules - not null or empty 18:51 jwagner In the circ rules 18:51 cait add a loan rule for default library default itemtype and default categorytype 18:50 cait in the conditions 18:50 libsysguy cait I'm not sure what defaultdefaultdefault rule is? 18:48 libsysguy so all of those are sysprefs? 18:47 cait not null or empty 18:47 cait also maxreserves in conditions needs to be a high value 18:47 cait have you tried that? 18:47 cait you also get that I think when you have no defaultdefaultdefault rule 18:46 cait hm 18:43 libsysguy but i get that they are available in search results 18:43 libsysguy so when i try and place a hold on an item I get a message saying none of the items can be placed on hold because no items are available 18:37 libsysguy_afk yeah well A lot of it is being caused by hourly loans i think 18:36 cait but there are lots of other days too :) 18:36 cait some days you think everything is going to fall apart 18:36 cait there are times like this 18:34 libsysguy_afk man I have hit more Koha errors this week than I ever thought possible 18:25 wizzyrea hiya 18:25 huginn wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. 18:25 wizzyrea @later tell nengard <<Pick your Item Type|itemtypes>> 18:25 cait hi liz :) 18:24 cait plural 18:24 cait itemtypes? ah 18:24 cait and now she is gone :) 18:24 wizzyrea works 18:24 cait so soon 18:24 wizzyrea <<Pick your Item Type|itemtypes>> 18:24 cait 22nd is feature freeze 18:24 nengard got me lots of free time at home in Sept :) hehe 18:24 cait I tried sorting through the bugs ... 18:24 nengard yes! 18:24 cait perhaps we can talk about it sometime 18:24 nengard yeah - we did acq training today and yesterday :) 18:24 cait and thx for asking the qestion on the list :) 18:24 cait saw your acq bugs 18:24 nengard thanks!! 18:24 nengard ttyl 18:24 nengard off to LA to learn Moodle :) 18:23 cait :) 18:23 nengard time to hit the road 18:23 cait ah cool :) 18:23 nengard at least the few i tried 18:23 nengard cait i got authorized values to work 18:23 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6746 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , item type run time parameter not working 18:23 nengard thanks cait bug 6746 reported 18:23 cait even authorised values should? 18:22 cait http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commit;h=7d8b369ba4066d485e5aa7739b1b073f0db80b45 18:22 cait and itemtype should work according to the description 18:22 nengard okay, i'll report it then 18:22 cait but I think I had the problem before 18:21 cait I didn't find a bug 18:21 nengard so you think it's a bug? 18:21 nengard sorry cait i got distracted 17:43 cait I thought I had a bug for that 17:40 cait ... 17:40 cait and it sounds familiar 17:40 cait I think it should work 17:39 nengard hello all, i have a runtime parameter question - when I was writing up the manual someone told me that item types was one of the authorized values that genereated a pull down - but when I did <<Item|itemtype>> or <<Item|itype>> I got a blank pull down ... anyone know if this works or if i'm doing something wrong? 17:16 cait hi all 17:06 wizzyrea ooh, no, I've never run into that one 16:59 rhcl no kidding. did you ever get the continuous, totally non-ending form feed that would completely run out the roll? we did, lots 16:58 libsysguy ok lunch time...bbl 16:58 libsysguy im in the same boat as rchl 16:58 wizzyrea "i get long receipts" probably ought to be a faq 16:58 rhcl well, there you go. read the directions like I don't 16:57 wizzyrea that same info is in the manual, I believe 16:57 rhcl on her site 16:57 rhcl wizzy has good, clear instructions 16:57 wizzyrea i remember :( 16:57 libsysguy yeah in the process of testing the hourly branch we found out it broke dropbox returns :'( 16:56 wizzyrea boo 16:56 wizzyrea we've done it, no reason for you to suffer :) 16:56 * libsysguy has had a stressful week :'( 16:56 libsysguy you guys are the best 16:56 libsysguy w00t for all the printer help :) 16:56 wizzyrea this will help you not get super long receipts 16:56 wizzyrea http://pastebin.com/0au87kpB 16:56 wizzyrea libsysguy: specifically 16:55 wizzyrea nothing on star, but lots on configuring firefox 16:54 wizzyrea libsysguy: I bet you need to look at http://www.nexpresslibrary.org/go-live/configure-your-receipt-printers/ 16:54 rhcl well, I wouldn't think so. Back in the good old days when unix was invented everything was a line printer...which is essentially what a receipt printer is. I'd expect them to work easy as cake with Linux 16:53 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6744] Acknowledge the actual es-ES translators <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6744> 16:51 libsysguy printer and *nix are sometimes quite an animal 16:50 rhcl I've gotten Mint worked into several of our staff positions...but receipt printers are a problem and I need to sit down and work on the problems 16:49 rhcl BTW, I have this nascent project to get receipt printers working perfectly w/ Linux. I'm on this drive to get all our staff computers to free operating systems (i.e. Linux) as much as I can. 16:49 libsysguy rhcl++ 16:25 rhcl most of the whitespace is controlled in the application (browser) itself. 16:24 rhcl OK, well, assuming there isn't the whitespace being introduced (via \n or whatever) in some custom scripting you might have done.... 16:23 libsysguy yes 16:23 rhcl oh yes. well, you're talkiing about receipts, right? 16:23 libsysguy is there anyway to adjust that or has anybody even run across it before 16:23 libsysguy when i print a slip it prints a whole giant page of whitespace after the bits of information 16:22 libsysguy so I have a print slip question 16:15 tcohen maybe you could make some change in koha-conf.xml and test if it is actually using memcached 16:14 tcohen if anything went wrong 16:14 tcohen almost nothing should work 16:14 tcohen as it is related to have access to koha-conf.xml stuff 16:13 slef tcohen: any suggestion what it might break? 16:13 slef tcohen: briefly. It seemed to work but I got interrupted 16:13 tcohen i've just posted a new one, without the 'memcached stuff' comment 16:12 tcohen slef: have you managed to test that memcached patch? 16:11 tcohen slef: :-D 15:37 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6269] can't undefine a printer profile <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6269> 15:29 rhcl Next thing you know it'll start snowing in England 15:29 rhcl what's going on down there? I didn't think NZ ever got snow. http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Global-News/2011/0817/Snow-in-New-Zealand-Pleading-for-end-to-epic-wintery-blast 15:25 kf breadcrumbs-- 15:25 kf ie-- 15:25 kf hmpf 15:23 slef tcohen: can't reproduce anymore? fertility problems? 15:14 reiveune bye 15:06 tcohen its weird that make clean didn't clean it 15:06 tcohen produced the problem 15:06 tcohen it looks like perl Makefile.PL using a bad parser Expat here 15:05 tcohen ok, can't reproduce anymore 14:52 tcohen damn 14:52 tcohen Malformed UTF-8 character (fatal) at /usr/lib/perl5/XML/LibXML/Error.pm line 217. 14:52 tcohen perl translate install fr-FR 14:50 wizzyrea maybe 14:50 tcohen he 14:49 tcohen wizzyrea, if the install procedure used the bad one, maybe weird things happened, *maybe* 14:48 wizzyrea that shouldn't matter, as long as it's the right one. keyword *shouldn't* 14:47 tcohen using a bad parser 14:47 tcohen perhaps the installer did weird things 14:47 tcohen I changed the parser AFTER installing 14:47 wizzyrea sec and I'll find the instructions 14:47 wizzyrea chekc your xml parser before you do that? 14:47 tcohen will delete everything and reinstall 14:46 tcohen mmm, I get the same error with every language I test 14:45 jcamins_away tcohen: I'm not sure. I don't actually know anything about translations. 14:45 jcamins_away And you checked that the right XML parser is in use, correct? 14:44 tcohen is there a way to test po files? 14:44 tcohen jcamins_away: maybe, just got the po files from translate.koha... 14:44 jcamins_away The problem had something to do with a non-ascii character preceding "%s" IIRC. 14:43 jcamins_away tcohen: I had that error at some point. 14:43 jcamins_away tcohen: corrupted po file. 14:41 tcohen (running PERL5LIB=/usr/share/koha_xxx/lib/ perl translate install es-ES BTW) 14:40 tcohen BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at translate line 25. 14:40 tcohen Compilation failed in require at translate line 25. 14:40 tcohen BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at LangInstaller.pm line 23. 14:40 tcohen Malformed UTF-8 character (fatal) at /usr/lib/perl5/XML/LibXML/Error.pm line 217. 14:40 tcohen I get: 14:39 tcohen has anyone experienced problems installing translations on fresh 3.4.3? 14:22 wizzyrea certainly it's germane considering the ad we're talking about. 14:22 jcamins_away wizzyrea: no, there isn't, I just like the acronym "BANANA." :) 14:20 * Agent_Dani watches that ad and thinks of the Right Said Fred video. 14:20 wizzyrea jcamins_away: is there context there that I'm missing? 14:14 jwagner I dunno. I'm always freezing cold on airplanes, and I imagine naked flight attendants would be too... 14:14 jcamins_away Apparently the concept of NIMBY (Not In My Back Yard) has been replaced by BANANA (Build Absolutely Nothing Anywhere Near Anything). 14:13 jcamins_away Heh. 14:13 wizzyrea ooh la la 14:13 oleonard For some, working on that ad /was/ the bonus! 14:11 jcamins_away Shari had already seen that, but I hadn't. I hope the makeup people got a bonus for that ad. 14:09 wizzyrea but the real proper answer is "why aren't there naked flight attendants" 14:09 magnuse hehe 14:09 jcamins_away Wow. 14:07 wizzyrea those aren't clothes they're wearing 14:07 wizzyrea click that link up there jcamins_away 14:07 jcamins_away Naked flight attendants? Why would there be naked flight attendants? 14:06 Agent_Dani O.o 14:06 magnuse sounds like something you'd remember... 14:05 wizzyrea hehehe I don't think there were any naked flight attendants on my flight 14:04 jwagner Being in a cranky mood I sent a complaint letter to Delta a couple of weeks ago. They gave me some extra FF miles but didn't explain or apologize what I was complaining about..... 14:04 oleonard Is this why wizzyrea? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elD38pJX7iE 14:03 wizzyrea not so awesome. 14:03 wizzyrea US -> NZ = AirNZ, and simply awesome. NZ -> AUS = AirNZ, also awesome. AUS -> US = Delta... 14:02 magnuse what jwagner said! 14:02 wizzyrea :) 14:02 jwagner Never too late to resurrect it, wizzyrea! 14:02 wizzyrea i'm sad I missed a discussion of air travel to NZ 13:50 magnuse perldoc++ 13:50 magnuse hehe 13:49 libsysguy bah forgot to escape the $ 13:49 magnuse in perldoc perlvar you can also search for \$\| 13:49 magnuse heh 13:48 libsysguy cool thanks magnuse...i was just doing a search for that expression earlier and I was getting stuff about G+ 13:47 magnuse libsysguy: you can also do "perldoc perlvar" and search for AUTOFLUSH 13:45 libsysguy magnuse++ 13:45 magnuse :-) 13:42 libsysguy ahh...man i knew i should have gotten a book lol 13:42 magnuse ...according to "perl in a nutshell" 13:42 magnuse "If set to nonzero, forces an fflush(3) after every write or print on the currently selected output channel" 13:40 libsysguy but i could never figure out what it did 13:40 libsysguy hmm...i see it all the time in druthb scripts 13:40 magnuse something to do with flushing output, i think? 13:38 libsysguy can anybody tell me what $|=1 does in perl? 13:12 jwagner I took a puddlejumper from Wellington to Rotorua and was surprised to find that there was actual LEGROOM! Definitely not something you find on puddlejumpers in the U.S. Or on big planes, for that matter. 13:09 slef AirNZ is the best I've experienced in over a decade. 13:09 jwagner It would be nice to think that good airline service still exists somewhere... 13:08 oleonard Isn't that the truth. 13:07 slef Don't worry jwagner. The US is encouraging the rest of the world to race to the bottom with it. 13:07 slef http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-08-17/qantas-feeling-political-heat/2844026 13:06 slef wow, stuff.co.nz doesn't have a non-js search 13:06 jwagner No idea on that. I just know the service, attention, and comfort on the Quantas flights were _FAR_ above anything U.S. airlines are offering these days. 13:05 slef Aren't Qantas about to offshore a load of their operation to Asia because Australia won't let them cut service down enough? 12:55 Agent_Dani Hi oleonard 12:55 oleonard Hi #koha 12:50 Agent_Dani Morning! 12:41 jwagner There was a marked difference in service and comfort between the DC-to-LA (American Airlines) and LA-to-Auckland (Qantas) flights. I wish Qantas and Air New Zealand could do U.S. domestic flights :-( 12:08 magnuse yay 12:08 huginn kf: Karma for "ie" has been increased 0 times and decreased 21 times for a total karma of -21. 12:08 kf @karma ie 12:08 kf ie-- 12:07 kf around 30 from here too 12:03 magnuse AirNZ was really nice, i think 12:01 magnuse hehe 12:01 NateC must have been that NZ hospitality 12:01 magnuse and i MUST see the south island some time, preferably within the next 10-15 years or so... 12:01 NateC but I actually found it better than many flights I take from NY to LA 12:00 NateC I think mine was like 22 hours each way 12:00 NateC thats a lot 12:00 NateC ouch 12:00 magnuse and i had ~36 hours each way... 12:00 magnuse the flights, that is 12:00 magnuse hm, the memories have faded for me, i think of it as "not too bad" 11:59 NateC I actually did not mind the flight at all, weird I know... 11:59 kf yes, the flight was loooong. 11:59 NateC Hi kf! 11:59 kf I think we all do... 11:59 jwagner When I retire, and can spare the time for taking a ship across, I really want to spend a lot of time in NZ and Australia. But I can't face that flight again.... 11:59 kf hi NateC 11:58 magnuse yeah, me too! 11:57 NateC man i miss NZ :( 11:57 NateC kia ora magnuse :D 11:56 magnuse kia ora NateC 11:46 jwagner Hi magnuse! 11:45 magnuse kia ora jwagner 11:41 druthb Time will tell, but they look very good, to me. 11:40 magnuse but i hope i have struck a balance 11:40 magnuse thanks, i was a bit worried about them 11:40 druthb I like your terms on that, too...very sensible. 11:40 * druthb would *so* do that, if she had the resource to do so. Maybe..... 11:39 magnuse it could 3 or 100... 11:39 magnuse i have had two beta testers so far 11:39 magnuse i have absolutely no idea! 11:39 druthb How much use do you expect to see on that, magnuse? 11:35 magnuse :-) 11:35 druthb magnuse++ #http://libriotech.no/gratis-koha 11:03 kf :) 11:03 magnuse *blushes* 10:57 wahanui slef: no idea 10:57 slef wahanui: C4? 10:56 kmkale slef: got it. Thanks.. 10:56 kf libriotech++ 10:55 kf magnuse++ 10:52 rangi magnuse++ 10:36 kmkale I will search. But pl send whenever you can.. 10:35 slef kmkale: will be 30mins before I can look. I was working in the OCS admin and describing stuff in #koha if you want to search before I can. 10:33 kmkale slef: you had prepared a schedule for kohacon11. Can't find it. Do you have a link? 10:32 huginn slef: Extent The number of pages, volumes, cassettes, total playing time, etc., of the described item. (Repeatable) 10:32 slef @marc 300 a 10:09 kmkale Namaste kf :) 10:09 kf hi kmkale 10:09 kmkale :) 10:09 magnuse namaskar kmkale 10:08 kmkale Namaste magnuse 10:04 druthb Namaste, kmkale 10:04 magnuse \o 10:04 druthb o/ 10:04 kmkale Namaste druthb :) 09:46 kf hi slef 09:45 magnuse kia ora slef 09:42 rangi hi slef 09:42 slef hi all 08:44 rangi http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/5458927/Snowbound-family-lose-power-for-two-nights <-- that wouldnt be fun 08:41 rangi http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/5461075/Stuff-Top-10-snow-moments 08:39 kf snow_dalek++ 08:38 kf ice-- 08:38 Oak very cool 08:38 Oak whoa! it looks the same now like in the photo... after so many years. wow. 08:37 Oak heya rangi 08:36 rangi http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/5456605/Latest-snow-photos-August-17/ 08:34 magnuse ice-- 08:34 rangi black ice causing crashes 08:34 rangi snow is gone, (cept on the hills) 08:34 rangi its just ice now 08:32 kf my coworkers asks about the snow 08:32 kf hi rangi 08:28 magnuse kia ora rangi 08:28 rangi evening 08:20 Oak ah, yes, got it. i don't have meetings. 08:20 magnuse Oak: too many meetings and other things that involve travel... 08:04 Oak what do you have in your calendar? meetings birthdays etc? 08:03 Oak ah, I don't have a calendar. 08:03 Oak i is fine too :) 08:03 magnuse and yourself? 08:03 magnuse trying to make sense of my calendar for september 08:02 Oak good 08:02 magnuse i'm fine 08:02 Oak how is you? 08:02 Oak magnuse 08:02 magnuse Oak 08:01 * Oak waves 07:20 kf hi magnuse :) 07:20 magnuse hiya kf 07:16 kf hi #koha 07:16 kf commuting... 07:13 francharb hello #koha 06:56 julian hello magnuse 06:56 magnuse jbonjour julian 06:55 julian hi 06:37 reiveune hi magnuse :) 06:36 magnuse bonjour reiveune 06:36 reiveune hello 06:36 cait lol 06:30 magnuse phew, commuting... 06:30 magnuse kia ora #koha 06:29 magnuse time to go to work! see ya later 06:28 cait bonjour alex_a 06:28 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6678] Fix some problems with the standard NORMARC framework <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6678> 06:21 magnuse bonjour alex_a 06:21 alex_a hello #koha ! 06:20 eythian :) 06:19 magnuse i'm definitely trying to! ;-) 06:19 magnuse moahaha 06:18 eythian magnuse: you're making more work for me to test things, eh. 06:17 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6516] koha-create makes assumptions about borrowernumber of staff user <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6516> 06:17 cait hehe 06:03 * magnuse tries, but gives up ;-) 06:03 rangi and have 3 seconds to do so 06:02 rangi can only pass 06:02 rangi imagine basketball but you had to freeze when u catch the ball 06:02 cait ;) 06:02 cait magnuse: I share your interest in sports ;9 06:01 magnuse probably says something about my interest in sports... 06:01 rangi but with a hoop and more rules :) 06:01 magnuse ah 06:01 rangi its kinda like handball 06:01 magnuse "From the start, netball was viewed as an appropriate sport for women to play, with restricted movement that appealed to contemporary notions on women's participation in sports, while remaining distinct from potentially rival male sports." 06:01 eythian yeah, it looks very different to basketball 06:00 rangi no dribbling 06:00 rangi nope, no backboard 06:00 rangi I spent many hours on the sideline at the haitaitai netball courts watching 06:00 magnuse hm, and i never heard of it... or perhaps i (would) have mistaken it for basketball.... 05:59 rangi its the most popular sport for women in nz 05:59 rangi heh 05:58 * magnuse is a little bit wiser 05:58 magnuse "Netball is a ball sport played between two teams of seven players. The sport derived from early versions of basketball and is similar to it in many respects. Netball developed as a distinct sport in the 1890s in England, from which it spread to other countries. It is popular in many Commonwealth nations and is predominantly played by women." 05:58 rangi yep 05:58 eythian that was the weekend the south island was shut down. 05:57 rangi Hehe 05:57 eythian rangi: the last time it froze bad in Dunedin (that is, about 3 weeks ago) they held the nude rugby competition. 05:57 rangi netball they play in short skirts in any weather 05:57 rangi cos it rips up the field 05:57 rangi they cancel club rugby if its really wet 05:56 wahanui netball is worse 05:56 magnuse netball? 05:56 rangi netball is worse 05:56 rangi apparently not 05:56 magnuse it's never too cold for rugby, eh? 05:56 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 17.0�C (7:20 AM CEST on August 17, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 9.0�C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Falling). 05:56 magnuse @wunder boo 05:55 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 7.0�C (5:00 PM NZST on August 17, 2011). Conditions: Rain Showers. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 5.0�C. Windchill: 2.0�C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Rising). 05:55 rangi @wunder wellington nz 05:55 rangi crazy bastards are playing rugby 05:52 rangi Hehe 05:51 magnuse uh oh 05:50 eythian rangi: ohh, wait til kelly hears about that. Then it'll be ON! 05:50 magnuse guten morgen cait & #koha 05:50 cait morning magnuse 05:49 rangi there ends news from the bus 05:49 rangi also the girl down the back really hates kelly 05:49 cait flipflops-- 05:47 rangi you pick up lots when u can hear the bus radio 05:46 eythian oh good. 05:46 rangi accident 05:46 eythian yeah. I may not bike home. 05:46 rangi terrace tunnel closed 05:44 rangi very very full buses today 05:44 cait uuuh :( 05:43 rangi heya cait 05:43 rangi its contagious 05:43 rangi I once was on the ferry in waves like that, it wasn't the waves that got me, it was everyone vomitting :) 05:43 cait rangi 05:43 cait hi rnagi 05:42 rangi hail and 8m swells Hehe 05:41 rangi 8m the swell was today that woulda been fun 05:40 rangi well its coupled with lightning strikes, you dont normally get snow, 112kmph gusts and lightning all at the same time 05:32 eythian yeah, it's less of a problem down south where it happens every year or two, but it's every decade or two here. 05:30 cait only we are used to it of course 05:29 cait it's strange to see how a little bit of snow and ice can cause all that 05:21 eythian and the power's been blinking a bit again 05:21 eythian ferries are shut down due to heavy swells 05:21 cait ok 05:20 eythian it's not so icy right now. 05:19 eythian I think most of them are 05:19 cait are the buses running now? 05:18 eythian cait: yeah, snowing in parts of the country that it never snows in, that sort of thing. 05:16 cait eythian: :( 05:15 cait cookies for breakfast... mm 05:15 Oak cookie lady 05:15 Oak that's you 05:15 eythian cait: yep 05:15 Oak cait 05:15 cait eythian: how is the weather? still cold? 05:15 Oak let's all have cookies 05:15 Oak hello mr robin 05:15 cait hi mr robin 05:15 cait salaam oak 05:14 Oak Guten Morgen cait 05:12 eythian hi 05:11 cait good morning #koha 04:25 eythian hello. 04:25 kmkale Namaskar #koha 03:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5098 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , overdue script and csv 03:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5713 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, brice.sanchez, ASSIGNED , Intranet - Circulation - Fines : debug calculation when fines are reversed then re-payed 03:16 jenkins_koha * chris.nighswonger: Updating Version Number to 3.04.03.002 03:16 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: bug_4002: issues referential integrity 03:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6116 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, julian.maurice, ASSIGNED , Adding child patron: library not set 03:16 jenkins_koha * julian.maurice: Bug 5098: Add csv headers in overdues 03:16 jenkins_koha * brice.sanchez: Bug 5713 :debug calculation when fines are reversed then re-payed 03:16 jenkins_koha * christophe.croullebois: Bug 6116: Adding a child patron 03:16 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.4.x build #35: SUCCESS in 40 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.4.x/35/ 02:35 jenkins_koha Starting build 35 for job Koha_3.4.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 00:28 rangi you can make it be zoomy text if you want 00:28 eythian I dislike those 00:27 eythian rangi: is that the zoomy text ones? 00:26 bencahill right... 00:26 rangi nope just choose the ones you want 00:22 bencahill rangi: I don't need all of those, right? (e.g. we've disabled holds) 00:20 bencahill rangi: oh right...my mind keeps getting messed up here... 00:20 bencahill s/-d/-v/ 00:20 rangi look at the crontab.example in misc/cronjobs 00:19 rangi nope 00:19 bencahill rangi: do I make cron run the same thing (-r -a -b -d)? 00:18 rangi sweet 00:16 bencahill rangi: dumb mistake on my part in the daemon script, all fixed now...and searching works 00:14 bencahill rangi: that's pretty sweet :) 00:13 rangi https://github.com/Moerphy/dizzy.js <-- think ill try using this for my next presentation 00:12 bencahill maybe I didn't start it back up... 00:12 rangi that'd do it 00:12 bencahill rangi: oh, zebrasrv isn't running...wtf? 00:12 rangi those are old ones from imports, or z3950 searches 00:12 rangi zebrasrv is definitely running eh? 00:12 bencahill rangi: what are biblios in reservoir? 00:12 rangi right, does look like it worked then 00:11 bencahill rangi: searching in cataloging, it says No results found, and gives a bunch of 'Biblios in reservoir' ? 00:11 rangi ohh cool 00:10 rangi and then if its all good, set up the cron job 00:10 wahanui i already had it that way, rangi. 00:10 rangi either is fine 00:10 wahanui opac is for patrons 00:10 bencahill rangi: opac? 00:10 rangi see if its happy 00:10 rangi in koha 00:10 rangi first try a search 00:10 bencahill rangi: it appears to have worked! now I just need to set up the cron job? 00:09 NateC hiya rangi! 00:09 rangi hi NateC 00:07 libsysguy nengard: I am taking off for today...I messed up my commit for that patch (i forgot I had uncommitted files) so I'll attempt to fix tomorrow and get it in 00:07 bencahill okay, third time's the charm, right? :-P 00:07 bencahill d'oh 00:07 bencahill rangi: oh right, I didn't notice that it was another dir 00:06 rangi another chown needed 00:06 bencahill [fatal] open reci [Permission denied] 00:06 bencahill [fatal] cf_open failed for reci 00:06 bencahill [fatal] mf_read2 reci-i internal error 00:06 bencahill [warn] Failed to open /var/lib/koha/zebradb/biblios/shadow/reci-i-0.mf [Permission denied] 00:06 bencahill rangi: those errors are gone, but these are here now: 00:04 bencahill eythian: lol 00:04 eythian but fails 00:04 * eythian tries not to make a jibe about "confusing" ;) 00:04 rangi yeah, probably dont want that, if its gonna mess up permissions :) 00:04 * bencahill likes things working :-D 00:03 rangi ah right 00:03 bencahill rangi: just something the pkg creator put in there 00:03 rangi ahh that must be an arch thing 00:03 bencahill ok, sec 00:03 bencahill rangi: so yes... 00:03 rangi then try your rebuild again 00:03 bencahill rangi: actually, yes, it was run (although failed) by the installer 00:03 rangi sudo chown -R koha:koha zebradb 00:02 rangi rebuild_zebra.pl probably maybe sometime in the past 00:02 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bumping database version 00:02 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5098 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , overdue script and csv 00:02 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: bug_4002: issues referential integrity 00:02 jenkins_koha * julian.maurice: Bug 5098: Add csv headers in overdues 00:02 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #382: SUCCESS in 43 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/382/ 00:02 rangi cd /var/lock/koha 00:02 bencahill rangi: zebrasrv, or rebuild_zebra.pl? 00:02 rangi something/someone ran it before as root 00:02 bencahill now running as koha 00:02 bencahill rangi: I ran zebrasrv first as root... 00:02 rangi you will have messed up the permissions if you did 00:01 bencahill I'm running it as koha 00:01 rangi did you run it as root or something, before you ran it as koha? 00:01 rangi yeah there you go 00:01 bencahill [warn] zebra_lock_create fail fname=/var/lock/koha/zebradb/biblios/shadow..LCK [Permission denied] 00:01 bencahill [warn] zebra_lock_create fail fname=/var/lock/koha/zebradb/biblios/norm..LCK [Permission denied] 00:01 bencahill before that these two: