Time  Nick             Message
23:59 huginn           New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6144 - Cant hide constraints when showed at subfield edition <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=75ce3b73fa2c12680eb114276ca8a3c399991abb>
23:50 eythian          bye
23:49 slef             bye
23:49 slef             Actually now I think about it, the same thing happened in Weston-super-Mare like 10 years ago
23:47 slef             Their argument seemed to be that other co-ops had sold out to WalMart so it's OK for them to do it.  They also sold their department store, but they're going bust like crazy so that's probably not such a bad move.
23:47 slef             yeah, I don't see how they reconciled that
23:46 slef             and a veg farm and an agri co-op I liked have also ceased trading
23:46 eythian          wow, that's one extreme to the other
23:45 slef             (current bad mood thanks to bloody co-op shop I liked has sold out to WalMart :( )
23:44 nengard          and yes i always feel better in the morning
23:44 nengard          sleep well
23:44 nengard          thanks slef!!
23:43 slef             now I think I sleep. It'll all seem better in the morning, right?
23:42 slef             6701 and 6702 done
23:35 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6706 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, ASSIGNED , integrate crystal icon set
23:35 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5252 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , Emails & Phones On Patron Add/Edit form
23:35 nengard          two bigger ones of mine waiting for sign off at bug 5252 and bug 6706
23:35 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6702 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, ASSIGNED , BiblioAddsAuthorities pref says too instead of to
23:35 nengard          and bug 6702
23:35 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6701 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, ASSIGNED , language on timeout system preference is wrong
23:35 nengard          bug 6701
23:34 slef             nengard: Yes please. I could do with cheering up
23:34 nengard          two one word changes :)
23:34 nengard          who wants to sign off on my tini tiny patches from today?
23:32 huginn           nengard: The operation succeeded.
23:32 nengard          @later tell cait thanks for the tip about --amend -s .. i added it to the wiki
23:31 * eythian        lowers the tone
23:31 eythian          slef: you can get pills for that...
23:31 bg               :D
23:30 slef             °\
23:30 nengard          not so fast right now :)
23:28 druthb           o/
23:21 wahanui          i already had it that way, bg.
23:21 bg               nengard is fast
23:19 wahanui          i think nengard is fast
23:19 bg               heya nengard
23:15 rangi            hi nengard
23:14 rangi            http://ils.stdc.govt.nz/cgi-bin/koha/opac-shelves.pl?viewshelf=207&sortfield=title
22:44 rangi            spotya later
22:42 sekjal_mobile    okay this is my stop. time to go
22:39 sekjal_mobile    got to make a wood grain background for their OPAC
22:38 sekjal_mobile    very strong sense of community there
22:37 rangi            great
22:37 sekjal_mobile    they're planning to join us for our next community meeting
22:37 rangi            excellent
22:37 sekjal_mobile    went well
22:36 sekjal_mobile    no, actually: independent
22:36 rangi            they are a vokal one eh?
22:36 rangi            ahhh
22:36 sekjal_mobile    green mountain college
22:36 rangi            cool hope it went well
22:35 sekjal_mobile    yes
22:35 rangi            training up there?
22:35 rangi            ahh cool
22:35 rangi            melia whipped you all into shape yet?
22:35 sekjal_mobile    on my way home from vermont
22:35 sekjal_mobile    pretty good
22:34 rangi            hows things?
22:32 sekjal_mobile    hey rangi
22:32 rangi            heya sekjal_mobile
22:31 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6078 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, julian.maurice, ASSIGNED , Patron with no checkout Report overload the server
22:31 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6034 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, jwagner, ASSIGNED , Shelving cart feature can wipe permanent shelving location in certain circumstances
22:31 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6534 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Duplicate opac renew buttons at the top of the checkouts list
22:31 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6527 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, wizzyrea, RESOLVED FIXED, Table striping not working on cataloguing search
22:31 jenkins_koha     * sophie.meynieux: Bug 6078: Request to find borrowers without issues overload the server
22:31 jenkins_koha     * jwagner: Bug 6034 - Shelving cart feature can wipe permanent shelving location in certain circumstances
22:31 jenkins_koha     * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6534 - Duplicate opac renew buttons at the top of the checkouts list
22:31 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5639 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , ILS-DI fixes
22:31 jenkins_koha     * m.de.rooy: 5660 Webinstaller should check if KohaOpacLanguage exists in staff
22:31 jenkins_koha     * lrea: Bug 6527 - Table striping not working on cataloguing search
22:31 jenkins_koha     * jeanandre.santoni: Bug 5639 (MT #3605) Fix escaping in ILSDI
22:31 jenkins_koha     Project Koha_3.4.x build #28: FIXED in 40 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.4.x/28/
22:31 jenkins_koha     Yippie, build fixed!
22:17 * mtj            tries another browser
22:16 mtj              2 for 2
22:16 mtj              http://indianvisaonline.gov.in/visa/
22:16 mtj              meh, the india visa application webform is failing for me :/
21:58 libsysguy_away   ok so now im really leaving...bye #Koha
21:58 libsysguy_away   yeah so it took about 15 mins to drop the biblios table just for the record
21:50 jenkins_koha     Starting build 28 for job Koha_3.4.x (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #26 6 j 23 h ago)
21:47 chilts           I'm guessing it's not Open Source ... but I think I like the idea (if I understand what it does)
21:47 rangi            not me
21:47 chilts           has anyone here used scoop.it? I saw it talked about on NZLibs list
21:44 libsysguy_school i've gotta run but ill post back with the results
21:43 libsysguy_school impatience :p
21:43 libsysguy_school maybe that is my issue
21:43 libsysguy_school ok well then i will let it run
21:43 rangi            libsysguy_school: you definitely should not be terminating it
21:43 rangi            ketchup: write a goddammn proper interface to it, that lets it co exist with zebra, and i might be interested
21:43 libsysguy_school maybe that is a dumb question since its not a service
21:42 libsysguy_school or if im supposed to stop it
21:42 libsysguy_school im wondering if the drop biblios process will terminate when its done
21:42 ketchup          solr solr solr
21:42 bg               is the ketchup for worms
21:42 rangi            so the only thing i can think of is, the bit you are dropping (you did the commit bit eh)
21:42 rangi            good thats a start
21:41 libsysguy_school yes and i stop getting results as expected
21:41 rangi            and have you tried turning zebrasrv off?
21:40 libsysguy_school yes i did
21:40 rangi            you did the zebraidx bits in that faq eh?
21:40 libsysguy_school and i still get results
21:40 libsysguy_school i have dropped all the biblios
21:40 libsysguy_school ok so im about to burn zebra
21:35 rhcl_away        just checked it...I don't need any of the billing stuff
21:34 jcamins_away     But apparently I was right about it. :)
21:34 rhcl_away        I neeed a wrms.
21:34 jcamins_away     Speculative.
21:34 rhcl_away        was that declarative or interrogative or speculative?
21:34 rangi            thats it
21:33 jcamins_away     Work request managing system?
21:32 rhcl_away        well, you apparently don't know worms about wrms.
21:31 wahanui          it has been said that i am a repository of important and useful and accurate information
21:31 rhcl_away        where's wahanui?
21:31 wizzyrea         i love that game!
21:31 bg               rangi you giving access to worms :)
21:31 libsysguy_school wrms?
21:31 rhcl_away        wrms?
21:31 libsysguy_school odd indeed
21:29 jcamins_away     Okay, no idea.
21:28 libsysguy_school yes you do
21:28 jcamins_away     libsysguy_school: I presume if you click on the links you get a 404?
21:28 libsysguy_school because i killed the process and it too longer to commit this time
21:28 libsysguy_school oh...well this is interesting i think it is actaully just taking a really long time
21:27 libsysguy_school hmm
21:27 wizzyrea         browser caching?
21:27 rangi            if you turn zebrasrv off, it doesnt eh?
21:27 wizzyrea         caching?
21:27 rangi            libsysguy_school: im really puzzled how its still giving you results then
21:27 rangi            it feels weird giving melia access to wrms :)
21:26 libsysguy_school we have wayy too many records to use nozebra lol
21:26 libsysguy_school right right
21:19 rangi            its not searching the nozebra indexes or something
21:19 rangi            you definitely have it set to use zebra eh?
21:18 rangi            but id expect it to be pretty fast
21:18 rangi            might
21:18 rangi            make take a long time
21:15 libsysguy_school it shouldn't take more than a few seconds to drop biblios right?
21:15 libsysguy_school hmm still get results
21:12 rangi            try that
21:12 rangi            http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/searching/#5
21:12 libsysguy_school same diff i think
21:12 libsysguy_school well...i did a -reset
21:12 libsysguy_school -r in zebra
21:12 libsysguy_school negative
21:12 rangi            and you did a -r eh?
21:11 rangi            is there anything in biblio?
21:10 libsysguy_school did i forget something?
21:10 libsysguy_school so after truncating and reindexing i still get results
21:07 huginn           New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6706] integrate crystal icon set <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6706>
21:07 rangi            wb melia
21:01 wahanui          wizzyrea: I forgot accountlines
21:01 wizzyrea         forget accountlines
21:01 libsysguy_school oh yeah i already took care of that
21:00 rangi            course, do a db dump first
21:00 rangi            the cascades oughta take care of anything else
20:59 libsysguy_school ok cool
20:58 rangi            aqorders
20:58 rangi            statistics
20:58 rangi            items
20:58 rangi            biblioitems
20:58 rangi            biblio
20:57 wahanui          accountlines is used however. I'm just figuring out how to get similar-but-different data out of liberty  and into koha.
20:57 rangi            accountlines
20:57 rangi            right, id truncate borrowers
20:55 libsysguy_school its not prod but i don't want to kill all the work ive done
20:54 libsysguy_school i want to kill issues stats...everything except frameworks settings
20:52 rangi            all accounts data?
20:51 rangi            all borrowers? all issues? all statistics? all bibliographic data?
20:51 rangi            its probably easier to list thing things you want to kill
20:51 rangi            you want to kill frameworks?
20:51 rangi            :)
20:51 rangi            are you sure you mean that?
20:51 rangi            now
20:48 libsysguy_school what tables would you kill
20:48 libsysguy_school ok so if you were going to delete everything except settings in koha
20:26 cait             wb
20:26 magnuse          gone
20:26 rangi            back
20:09 cait             i think with a table like borrower_to_borrower you could do n:m?
20:09 cait             but only 1:n now
20:09 rangi            yeah pre 3.0
20:09 cait             we could reimplement the organisations to organisatons
20:08 cait             http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git&a=search&h=HEAD&st=commit&s=organisations
20:08 cait             2006
20:08 cait             longlong ago
20:08 rangi            2007?
20:08 rangi            when did I write it?
20:08 rangi            I forget what client wanted it
20:08 cait             hm
20:07 cait             like for libraries, central libraries and institute libraries
20:07 rangi            etc
20:07 rangi            u can't have math dept belongs to the uni
20:07 cait             I was thinking today that would be nice
20:07 rangi            nope
20:07 cait             ok, we can't link organisations to organisations now
20:07 cait             ah
20:07 cait             how is it differnt from the way we can lnk them together now?
20:07 rangi            and organisations belong to organisations
20:06 cait             hm
20:06 rangi            let's ppl belong to organisations
20:04 cait             what was it doing exactly?
20:04 cait             or comment out
20:04 cait             and leave the sub and  code in the perl files
20:04 cait             perhaps we could remove it from the templates for now
20:04 cait             hm
20:03 rangi            ill have a look, it might take more time than I have available to fix
20:02 cait             borrower_to_borrowre
20:02 cait             it looks like we are missing tables for that now
20:02 rangi            thats usually the cause
20:02 cait             :(
20:02 rangi            carelessness?
20:02 rangi            ill have to see how hard it is to resurrect
20:02 oleonard         Any idea why it got broked?
20:02 rangi            before it got broked
20:01 rangi            yep, it used to be a cool feature
20:01 cait             there was a lot of rangi on git around hat code :)
20:01 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6697 minor, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW , Empty Organisation(s) field for organisational patrons
20:01 cait             bug 6697
20:00 huginn           cait: The operation succeeded.
20:00 cait             @later tell nengard git bz is not using the patch file, you can sign-off by using git commit --amend -s and then do the git bz attach
20:00 rangi            id have to look first
20:00 cait             nengard: still around?
19:59 cait             rangi: any objections to remove the code owen and I talked about earlier?
19:54 magnuse          jcamins_away: cool!
19:53 jcamins_away     magnuse: looks like in latest Master the link is set up.
19:53 rangi            its doable but not out of the box
19:53 jcamins_away     magnuse: ohhh, I misunderstood.
19:53 rangi            to use what is in 999 instead of making new ones
19:53 magnuse          jcamins_away: or retain the connection between serials/subscriptions and bibliote records? (that's how i read it...)
19:53 rangi            ahh in that case you have to edit the addbiblio sub and additem
19:52 magnuse          jcamins_away: someone better chack on a marc21 install...
19:52 jcamins_away     rangi: I think the problem is that he wants to delete all the recods, then reload everything from scratch, with the records in a different order, and have the biblionumbers match.
19:52 rangi            it gets messy fast
19:51 rangi            but it can't clash with existing records of course
19:51 rangi            libsysguy_school: we have modified scripts that will retain biblionumber
19:51 magnuse          hm, maybe i did something for normarc when i set that up way back in the day?
19:50 magnuse          i don't think i have done it on purpose...
19:49 jcamins_away     magnuse: really? I didn't think it was mapped by default.
19:47 magnuse          i just checked, at least one of my production installs has data in biblioitems.issn!
19:47 jcamins_away     At least, I don't think it is.
19:47 jcamins_away     No.
19:47 libsysguy_school basically...but thats not possible
19:47 libsysguy_school im removing because somebody deleted a lot of old items from our catalog that isn't migrated yet
19:47 jcamins_away     libsysguy_school: so you need to retain biblionumber with a completely new load of data?
19:47 libsysguy_school im not overlaying
19:46 jcamins_away     If you're overlaying, why can't you just match on ISSN?
19:46 jcamins_away     If you're exporting then reimporting, match on biblionumber.
19:46 jcamins_away     libsysguy_school: biblionumber.
19:46 libsysguy_school hmm
19:46 libsysguy_school so is there anything that i can jot down from biblios that is unique
19:46 magnuse          there is a field called biblioitems.issn
19:46 libsysguy_school ok so i have to truncate my catalog...but i need to save the serials...and they are joined on the biblionumber...so when i reimport there is no guarantee that they will get the same number
19:45 jcamins_away     libsysguy_school: because ISSN is not all that general a datum.
19:44 magnuse          depends on how you have mapped your marc?
19:44 libsysguy_school WHYYYY!!!
19:44 jcamins_away     libsysguy_school: in the MARC record.
19:43 libsysguy_school anybody know where the ISSN is stored in the db?
19:40 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6691 critical, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW , can't place hold even with override on
19:40 oleonard         Ugh, I think it's too late in the day for Bug 6691...
19:39 cait             hehe
19:36 wizzyrea         :D
19:36 magnuse          wow the ease and simplicity and beauty of koha-common just keeps hitting me...
19:33 cait             and thx for sign-off nengard :)
19:27 nengard          there :)
19:27 nengard          open_source++
19:27 huginn           magnuse: open_source has neutral karma.
19:27 magnuse          @karma open_source
19:26 huginn           magnuse: Karma for "free_software" has been increased 2 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 2.
19:26 magnuse          @karma free_software
19:26 cait             free_software++
19:25 magnuse          free_software++ ;-)
19:23 nengard          okay all people who worked on it are geniuses
19:22 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5252 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , Emails & Phones On Patron Add/Edit form
19:22 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6602 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Reports dictionary doesn't properly recognize text columns
19:22 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6701 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, ASSIGNED , language on timeout system preference is wrong
19:22 nengard          my easy stirng change patches still need sign off :) bug 6701, bug 6602, and bug 5252
19:22 cait             the module is from someone else, rangi fixed something and slef made it possible to add the bugzilla login so you don't need a cookie from the browser
19:21 cait             it's not all from slef
19:21 nengard          easy string change
19:21 nengard          no prob
19:21 cait             and thx for sign-off
19:21 nengard          slef is a genius :)
19:21 nengard          i love it!!!
19:21 cait             no more fiddling with files
19:20 cait             :)
19:19 nengard          just used it for a signed off patch
19:19 nengard          git bz is so much fun :)
19:18 oleonard         Of course
19:18 cait             so would be ok for you if I give it a try?
19:18 oleonard         I might take up the memberofinstitution removal but not soon.
19:13 cait             and i can give the other a try if you want me to or test yours :)
19:13 cait             oleonard: I can test the patch tomorrow
19:06 huginn           New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6698] Detail page for organisations should show only valid fields <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6698>
18:58 cait             no not so early
18:58 magnuse          0700 hours, afaict
18:58 cait                7
18:58 cait             ten hours at the moment...
18:58 cait             hm
18:58 magnuse          a little early for him?
18:57 cait             hm. strange no rangi tonight.
18:57 cait             do you want to write a patch?
18:54 oleonard         Yes
18:54 cait             and the code from the pl file probably?
18:53 cait             so we have the template code and the sub as candidates for deletion now
18:53 cait             thx for investigating :)
18:53 cait             hehe
18:51 oleonard         I wonder if the sender of that email in '08 would like an update? :)
18:50 oleonard         Yeah, unless rangi wants to resurrect it
18:49 cait             it seems quite dead
18:49 cait             i think if noone argues about it, perhaps we should remove the code
18:49 cait             hm
18:48 oleonard         http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blobdiff;f=C4/Members.pm;h=2a4f2fd13a81ec4b2c6dd19499f2a6d3cb5dd8aa;hp=b1864a8cb8bcbdf58dea8366106addbe355db17e;hb=31c21007cc2c1d2aac2c4cc9dd65988199d7ccb5;hpb=8ce7790e0bc560cf56fee79af3f82d61ff1cbfc9
18:48 cait             at the moment we only have 1:m
18:47 cait             perhaps it was once possible to have n:m relationships between borrowers?
18:47 cait             hm
18:47 cait             were do you see it?
18:47 cait             we don't have that now - must be kind of ancient
18:47 cait             hehe yeah
18:46 oleonard         borrowers_to_borrowers?
18:46 cait             http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blobdiff;f=C4/Members.pm;h=b1864a8cb8bcbdf58dea8366106addbe355db17e;hp=c21f1411f479664a0fdee4fdea5738dc33954cc5;hb=30412ec5cff7f0ce134fdb6310f4a7b125eaa209;hpb=068627b32b9095996c8c9288724cb08a99133f83
18:46 oleonard         "INSERT INTO borrowers_to_borrowers (borrower1,borrower2) VALUES (?,?)";
18:44 cait             seems like rangi should know
18:44 cait             http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git&a=search&h=HEAD&st=commit&s=organisations
18:43 cait             hm
18:42 cait             checking
18:40 oleonard         Wow, this is an *old* problem: http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.com/memberofinstitution-turned-on-but-where-is-the-list-K3-td3053190.html
18:38 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5664 normal, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , Bug with memberofinstitution and creating Organizational patrons
18:37 oleonard         Heh... Bug 5664
18:36 cait             cool
18:36 * oleonard       is trying now
18:35 cait             perhaps we could find the commit
18:35 cait             can oyu git blame who wrote it and when?
18:35 cait             but that would make the sql even more wrong
18:35 cait             perhaps it's supposed to show the patrons linked to that specific institution?
18:34 cait             that would have been my next question
18:34 cait             yes
18:34 oleonard         ...though it still doesn't make sense that the "member of institution" field only appears if the patron *is* an institution
18:34 cait             the sql looks good to me
18:34 cait             let me read
18:34 cait             sorry, had a phone call
18:32 oleonard         Is there a better way to do that?
18:32 oleonard         select surname,firstname from borrowers where categorycode in (select categorycode from categories where category_type = 'I') ?
18:29 oleonard         Not sure what the SQL for that would be
18:28 oleonard         It should be getting patrons which have a categorycode which has a category_type 'I'
18:28 cait             ?
18:28 cait             so what's it supposed to do
18:24 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6698 trivial, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW , Detail page for organisations should show only valid fields
18:24 oleonard         It's a similar bug in moremember.pl which is causing Bug 6698
18:23 oleonard         it's not borrowers.categorycode it should be looking at, but categories.category_type
18:22 oleonard         "SELECT borrowernumber,surname FROM borrowers WHERE categorycode=I ORDER BY surname"
18:22 oleonard         cait: get_institutions(), which should grab the list of institutions to attach to, is completely wrong.
17:44 jcamins_away     Good luck.
17:44 jcamins_away     luisb: if you want to have the Koha stuff as a subdirectory on another virtualhost, you should be able to just copy the relevant portions into a <Directory> directive.
17:43 luisb            Thanks jcamins_away. I'll look into it further when I get back.
17:43 luisb            arg, i'm being pulled away from my desk.
17:41 jcamins_away     If that's what you want the path to show, you could just change it from cgi-bin/koha to koha
17:40 luisb            jcamins_away: so, I would need to prepend all those aliases with koha/?
17:38 jcamins_away     luisb: if you look in the httpd.conf, you'll see where it sets the path to cgi-bin/koha/
17:31 luisb            I imagine the change would be in koha-httpd.conf
17:30 luisb            I've successfully installed koha-latest on a dev box; I was wondering what I need to change to run the opac at /koha instead of /.
17:28 luisb            hi #koha
16:51 cait             oleonard: ok - only happy it didn't report a phantom :)
16:51 cait             tcohen: cool :)
16:47 tcohen           kf: i managed to push origin/master into my github repo
16:37 * oleonard       will investigate later, working on 6698
16:37 oleonard         Yes
16:37 cait             oleonard: you see it now?
16:29 cait             the text of the syspref is wrong: allow patrons to be linked to institutions (which must be set up as Institution patrons).   > should be organisatons
16:28 cait             which didn't help understand what it was supposed ot do
16:27 cait             and I never got something to show up in that fieldset
16:27 cait             I think it makes no sense
16:27 cait             no idea
16:27 oleonard         Why would an organization be a member of an institution?
16:26 cait             it's above library management
16:26 cait             turned it on and there is the weird fieldset :)
16:25 cait             memberofinstitution defaults to off, it#s a syspref
16:25 oleonard         ?
16:25 cait             it shows up for me now
16:25 cait             hah
16:25 * oleonard       feels like he just mooned the channel
16:24 oleonard         ( I ) doesn't evaluate as true
16:24 oleonard         This part isn't working: [% IF ( I ) %]
16:23 cait             <fieldset class="rows" id="memberentry_organisation">
16:23 cait             [% IF ( memberofinstution ) %]
16:23 cait             [% IF ( I ) %]
16:22 cait             so it has not been deleted
16:22 cait             oleonard: hm. perhaps! I still see the fieldset in the template code
16:22 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6698 trivial, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW , Detail page for organisations should show only valid fields
16:22 oleonard         I know from investigating Bug 6698 that there is some problem with the template getting the right variable to identify the record as an institutional one. Maybe it's the same bug.
16:20 cait             tt? :)
16:20 cait             but the strange fieldset is not showing up
16:20 cait             oleonard: one thing is that organisation identity had only 1 field - named organisation. and now I see surname instead
16:20 cait             oleonard: I think I was looking at a 3.4.3 and some things in the form are different there
16:19 cait             ok, not in my screenshot
16:18 cait             in my screenshot is says organisation - here I have surname and other name
16:18 cait             another thing is different
16:18 cait             worst case - I was looking at a 3.4.3
16:18 cait             looking at master now - but thought I was looking at master earlier too
16:17 oleonard         Different version?
16:17 cait             oleonard: I don't see it here
16:17 cait             oleonard: weird
16:14 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6704 critical, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , merging records cuts off fields at quotation marks
16:14 nengard          bug 6704 is a nasty little one
16:14 cait             let me check if I can reproduce it on my installation here
16:14 cait             and added a new borrower
16:14 cait             as type
16:14 cait             what I did was create a category with organisation
16:13 cait             hm
16:13 cait             not really more than I wrote down there - I have no idea what it is supposed to do
16:13 oleonard         I can't seem to reproduce it, not sure if I'm looking at the right thing
16:13 cait             ah
16:13 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6697 minor, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW , Empty Organisation(s) field for organisational patrons
16:13 oleonard         cait: Can you help me understand Bug 6697?
16:13 cait             and your bug fixing skills are super fast
16:12 cait             superman can do it faster - still working on it :)
16:12 wizzyrea         nice!
16:12 nengard          bug report coming
16:12 nengard          wizzyrea you are right - or heather was right :)
16:12 oleonard         cait, that was a quick costume change :)
16:12 cait             oleonard++
16:12 slef             Also being asked about "Notice plugins" - does Koha have plugins except in the record editor?
16:12 paul_p           yw, bye oleonard & see you tomorrow maybe
16:11 paul_p           +    <td><a href="/cgi-bin/koha/admin/marc_subfields_structure.pl?op=add_form&amp;tagfield=[% loo.tagfield %]&amp;frameworkcode=[% frameworkcode %]#sub[% loo.tagsubfield %]field">Edit</a></td>
16:11 paul_p           -    <td><a href="/cgi-bin/koha/admin/marc_subfields_structure.pl?op=add_form&amp;tagfield=[% loo.tagfield %]&amp;frameworkcode=[% loo.frameworkcode %]#sub[% loo.tagsubfield %]field">Edit</a></td>
16:11 oleonard         Okay paul_p, thanks for reassuring me.
16:11 paul_p           the link has been completly rewritten, so the patch sounds irrelevant:
16:10 paul_p           >>>>>>> Bug 6327: Edit subfield links broken
16:10 paul_p           <td><a class="" href="[% loo.delete %]">Delete</a></td>
16:10 paul_p           =======
16:10 paul_p           <td><a href="/cgi-bin/koha/admin/marc_subfields_structure.pl?op=delete_confirm&amp;tagfield=[% loo.tagfield %]&amp;tagsubfield=[% loo.tagsubfield %]&amp;frameworkcode=[% frameworkcode %]">Delete</a></td>
16:10 paul_p           <<<<<<< HEAD
16:10 paul_p           the diff :
16:10 paul_p           now, it was correct (even if my message is unclear)
16:10 slef             would I know that by another name?
16:10 slef             "Saved Report plugins"?
16:10 oleonard         It made me wonder if you were commenting on the right bug
16:09 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6327 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, NEW , editing frameworks looses framework suggestion
16:09 oleonard         Is your comment on Bug 6327 correct? The patch is such a minor change
16:08 wahanui          i think oleonard is the master UI designer of koha or an awesome bug wrangler
16:08 paul_p           yes oleonard  ?
16:08 oleonard         paul_p
16:08 paul_p           still something like 35 to check/QA...
16:07 paul_p           time to leave for me. Tomorrow will probably be my last "QA day" before leaving for holidays !
16:05 wizzyrea         but quotes were what she immediately thought of
16:05 nengard          i'll see what i can find
16:04 nengard          okey dokey
16:04 wizzyrea         but what caused it, she's not totally sure about
16:04 wizzyrea         but yea, heather *has* observed the behavior you're talking about
16:04 nengard          so now i'm sticking some quotes in there
16:04 nengard          wizzyrea, i'm trying it with longish 520 and 505 fields but they're not getting lost
16:02 huginn           slef: The operation succeeded.
16:02 slef             @later tell Irma please mail me @software.coop or leave me another message here, which I should see after about a day.
16:00 wizzyrea         maybe it's because of the length
16:00 wizzyrea         but, she's not *totally* sure about that
15:59 nengard          testing now
15:59 nengard          good find
15:59 nengard          ooo
15:59 wizzyrea         possibly
15:59 wizzyrea         nengard: heather says she's seen it when there are " in a field
15:59 slef             memcached has been restarted tons of times since they edited fields :-/
15:58 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6697 minor, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW , Empty Organisation(s) field for organisational patrons
15:58 oleonard         Anyone else seeing what kf reported in Bug 6697?
15:58 slef             WTH?
15:58 slef             bah, I edited one field, restarted memcached and now it displays as expected
15:57 nengard          has anyone else noticed long fields being cut off when records are merged?
15:56 huginn           New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6696] New category button broken when no categories defined <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6696>
15:50 slef             I'll look and see what they used and try 5 or -5.
15:46 kf               bye all
15:46 kf               hm ok
15:46 * druthb         perks
15:45 huginn           kf: fredericd was last seen in #koha 2 weeks, 6 days, 9 hours, 35 minutes, and 11 seconds ago: <fredericd> hello druthb
15:45 kf               @seen fredericd
15:44 kf               I think i use 5 or -5 most of the time, that always worked
15:44 kf               have yu tried using another hidden value?
15:43 slef             which is possible
15:43 jcamins_away     slef: no, it shouldn't.
15:43 slef             unless it's a long-unspotted template bug
15:43 slef             right... which shouldn't be affecting this 3.2 site :-/
15:43 jcamins_away     But there was one, and you and I discussed it.
15:43 jcamins_away     I can't find the bug either.
15:43 jcamins_away     nengard: I think it's a template issue.
15:42 wizzyrea         mmm no
15:42 slef             that's not connected with the editor though is it?
15:42 wizzyrea         maybe that's what you're thinking of? that OpacHiddenItems ins't working?
15:42 slef             sorry that's an old thread
15:41 wizzyrea         opachidden isn't working
15:41 kf               yes, something about hidden and bibiographic frameworks and not working correctly
15:41 slef             http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.com/Hidden-fields-in-the-marc-editor-td4274484.html#a4276643
15:41 nengard          do you remember reading it somewhere though?
15:41 kf               nengard: yes... can't find it either :(
15:40 slef             is there no link back from bugs to the main website?
15:40 tcohen           both are valid
15:40 tcohen           if C4::Context->ismemcached -> invalidate data after changes
15:40 slef             tcohen: are you around tomorrow, or can I comment on the bug?
15:39 nengard          something like that is sticking in my mind
15:39 nengard          about all subfields showing even if they're hidden
15:39 nengard          slef you know what ... i'm not seeing it, maybe it was an email to the koha list
15:39 tcohen           i mean, i want to discuss it with some1
15:38 tcohen           i propose to use it as a basis for some changes in how memcached is used around the code
15:38 * slef           puts it on his schedule for tomorrow
15:38 slef             tcohen: sounds very attractive. No time today :(
15:37 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6193 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, tomascohen, ASSIGNED , Use memcached cache koha-conf.xml configuration variables
15:37 tcohen           if anyone has time, take a look at bug 6193
15:37 slef             nengard: any idea of bug id?
15:36 kf               slef: I think what I was thinking about was a patch from fredericd
15:36 kf               I think it shoudl catch changes
15:36 jcamins_away     slef: that's how I restart it.
15:36 slef             tcohen: server is in production, not under test.
15:36 kf               make it work better
15:36 nengard          i there is a bug that is not memcache related
15:36 tcohen           turn it off hwile testing stuff
15:36 kf               I didn't install it
15:35 nengard          driving me nuts
15:35 nengard          driing me nuts
15:35 nengard          slef yes!!!
15:35 slef             I tried /etc/init.d/memcached restart
15:34 kf               I think some of the values might not work as expected
15:34 slef             jcamins_away: memcached is enabled. Remind me how to refresh it?
15:34 jcamins_away     slef: memcached is enabled and needs to be refreshed?
15:34 slef             yeah, hiding subfields
15:34 huginn           New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6701] language on timeout system preference is wrong <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6701> / [Bug 6695] Layout of patron category add/edit form slightly broken <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6695>
15:34 kf               what kind of change?
15:33 kf               there was something about the hidden values I think
15:33 kf               hm
15:33 slef             anyone seen a bug where framework changes are not reflected in the record editor?
15:31 kf               I hate those
15:31 slef             nengard: yeah, I guess that's possible, but it would make it koha-specific
15:31 kf               template error - either po files or something in the translation process
15:31 nengard          :(
15:30 kf               I think it's time to leave.
15:30 kf               at least not for german
15:30 kf               hmpf.
15:30 kf               wanted to update my doc about linking patrons today... but now the guarantor search doesn't work.
15:29 nengard          agreed
15:29 kf               i am not questioning your correction - but it doesn't make sense
15:29 nengard          slef now we need it to update the status to patch sent and needs signoff automatically :) hehe
15:28 nengard          so the text is wrong
15:28 nengard          kf, ian says that the preference isn't actually counting seconds, but milliseconds
15:28 nengard          slef it worked!!
15:28 kf               nengard:   +            - milliseconds of inactivity.  - really milliseconds? is this an intended feature?
15:26 * kf             loves LEO
15:25 kf               it is :) but I think making sure I didn't break something is ok too :)
15:25 slef             is LEO still around? :)
15:25 slef             bah I guess I could use an online dict
15:25 slef             unless they're really obvious
15:25 slef             when I can find my dictionaries under the moved furniture, I could do that
15:25 nengard          if you just want me to test that the code still works and not check grammar i can sign off :)
15:24 nengard          if i knew german i'd help you!
15:24 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5252 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , Emails & Phones On Patron Add/Edit form
15:24 nengard          and bug 5252
15:24 kf               but really annoying to me :)
15:24 kf               not so interesting for most people i fear
15:24 kf               I have some easy patches in there too... typo corrections for german sample files...
15:24 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6702 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, ASSIGNED , BiblioAddsAuthorities pref says too instead of to
15:23 nengard          bug 6702
15:23 nengard          if anyone wants to sign off on something easy
15:23 nengard          :)
15:23 nengard          will see if i can try with a sign off after i try with a new patch
15:23 nengard          thanks kf and slef
15:23 kf               the -e will open an editor, if you uncomment the attachement line of the patch you want to make obsolete
15:23 slef             nengard: only that you apply rather than commit or am
15:23 kf               if you want to, you can also do git bz attach -e bugnumber HEAD
15:22 kf               git bz attach <bugnumber> HEAD
15:22 nengard          that plus a new pain medication and i was spinning
15:22 kf               then
15:22 kf               nengard: what I do is commit
15:22 nengard          slef - totally udnerstand brain dead - gave blood yesterday for my surgery and was dead to the world
15:22 nengard          now you said depends ... so if i'm signing off on a patch is the process different?
15:22 slef             been decorating for 10 days... trying to work+decorate for the last 3
15:21 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6701 normal, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW , language on timeout system preference is wrong
15:21 nengard          gonna try with bug 6701 now
15:21 slef             sorry, braindead here today :)
15:21 nengard          k
15:21 slef             after commit
15:21 slef             well
15:21 nengard          k
15:21 slef             you can put it anywhere I think
15:21 nengard          bz
15:21 nengard          where does the bx bit fit?
15:21 slef             cool
15:21 nengard          usually i commit, create patch, email
15:21 slef             cool
15:21 kf               you are right - I always do that before starting work :)
15:21 nengard          wrote my code and am ready to commit
15:20 nengard          okay i already did my branch
15:20 slef             kf: not create the bug_* branch first?
15:20 kf               commit as usual
15:20 nengard          what do i so to commit, send to koha list and attach to bug report?
15:20 nengard          okay so slef, i'm fixing a bug, i've tested my code and i'm ready to commit
15:20 kf               german guarantor search broken
15:19 kf               bah
15:19 libsysguy        you guys have a good day
15:19 libsysguy        thanks nengard, slef, kf
15:19 slef             I could take you on A Tour of the Calculus, but I've not time right now :)
15:19 nengard          addition and subtraction
15:19 kf               good luck with your calculus :)
15:19 nengard          okay nicole only does basic maths
15:19 kf               libsysguy: took a while... but I think I figured it out now
15:19 slef             everything is maths
15:18 slef             everyone does maths
15:18 nengard          literature major here!!!
15:18 slef             nengard: which command you're doing and whether you're reviewing or creating a patch?
15:18 nengard          nicole does not do math
15:18 libsysguy        nobody likes those
15:18 nengard          totall lost
15:18 kf               ok
15:18 libsysguy        uggg k-maps
15:18 libsysguy        thanks nengard...and slef
15:18 kf               libsysguy: if it helps you... when I get home there is a karnaugh-veitch-diagram weaiting for me...
15:18 * slef           feeds libsysguy to a double-axis integrator
15:18 nengard          and what does it depend on slef?
15:17 nengard          good luck libsysguy
15:17 nengard          YIKES
15:17 slef             depends
15:17 libsysguy        ok, looks like you guys have this...im going to get back to my multivariate calculus :'(
15:17 nengard          and i do that before i create a  patch or after?
15:17 nengard          okay
15:17 slef             "where xxxx is your bug number"
15:16 libsysguy        i wish i could quote that
15:16 slef             :)
15:16 slef             SEXISTS!
15:16 nengard          hehe
15:16 nengard          BOYS!
15:16 slef             oh
15:16 slef             porn
15:16 libsysguy        yes
15:16 nengard          or the commit number?
15:16 nengard          the bug number?
15:16 nengard          on the wiki?
15:16 nengard          what is xxxxx
15:16 slef             and feed the one in kohaclone to a nearby goat
15:16 nengard          um ... got another question
15:16 slef             then just run the first mv in $HOME
15:16 libsysguy        unless you are in as sudo
15:16 slef             oic
15:15 slef             home is $HOME is ~
15:15 nengard          and redid it
15:15 nengard          and then realized what home was
15:15 nengard          i did it in kohaclone
15:15 nengard          told you 'copy paste'
15:15 nengard          i did it in both directories cause i wasn't sure what home was :) hehe
15:15 nengard          i did not
15:15 slef             "In your home directory"
15:15 slef             but I think you ignored the first line of the instructions on the wiki
15:15 slef             mv slefs-git-bz $HOME/git-bz
15:15 slef             both... or...
15:14 nengard          or just the second one?
15:14 nengard          am i doing them both?
15:14 nengard          wait
15:14 * slef           fixes the wiki page a bit more
15:13 slef             mv git-bz $HOME # too
15:13 slef             no it won't
15:13 slef             mv slefs-git-bz git-bz # and probably all will work...
15:13 libsysguy        slef is in your directory...moving your files
15:13 slef             you mean I can't just make stuff up as I go along
15:12 libsysguy        ok so we just have to fix slefs naming conventions :p
15:12 * kf             imagines a tiny slef stitting in her directory...
15:12 kf               lol
15:12 nengard          HA
15:12 slef             all your git-bz are belong to me :)
15:11 nengard          looks like kf was right
15:11 nengard          hehe
15:11 nengard          slefs-git-bz
15:11 nengard          nengard@debian:~/kohaclone$ ls -t | head -1 #
15:11 slef             nengard: ls -t | head -1 # please?
15:10 nengard          -bash: type: git-bz: not found
15:10 nengard          nengard@debian:~/kohaclone$ type git-bz
15:10 nengard          back
15:10 kf               and I followed the instructions on the wiki too
15:10 libsysguy        ha that would be funny
15:09 kf               is the directory really git-bz? when I clonsed slefs repo it was something with slef in the name
15:09 slef             nengard: can you run "type git-bz" please? (man bash if you would like to look up type)
15:08 slef             libsysguy: no, but I'm puzzled as to why that didn't work.
15:08 nengard          brb
15:08 nengard          water spill
15:07 libsysguy        slef would you be too opposed to me telling nengard to symlink to /usr/local/bin/
15:07 nengard          nope
15:07 nengard          git: 'bz' is not a git command. See 'git --help'.
15:07 nengard          nengard@debian:~/kohaclone$ git bz attach 42bb257 HEAD
15:07 nengard          nengard@debian:~/kohaclone$ PATH=$PATH:$HOME/git-bz
15:06 libsysguy        yeah give it a whirl and see how that goes
15:06 nengard          if it's all in the wiki :)
15:06 nengard          yes libsysguy i did all the config
15:06 nengard          so kohaclone
15:06 nengard          oh
15:06 slef             in wherever you want to run git bz
15:05 libsysguy        ok...did you do all the configs already
15:05 nengard          k done
15:05 libsysguy        home is fine
15:05 nengard          or in my home?
15:05 nengard          in my kohaclone?
15:05 nengard          librarysysguy where to i paste that?
15:05 slef             ta
15:05 nengard          http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Git_bz_configuration
15:05 libsysguy        slef http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Git_bz_configuration
15:04 slef             wahanui is broken again!
15:04 libsysguy        do what slef said and see if that works => PATH=$PATH:$HOME/git-bz
15:04 wahanui          wiki page is broken again.
15:04 slef             what wiki page?
15:04 slef             yeah, probably the whole "add to path" bit is missing
15:04 nengard          my server skills are limited to copy paste
15:04 libsysguy        lol
15:04 nengard          so tell me what you want me to do and i'll fix it :)
15:04 nengard          copy and paste
15:04 libsysguy        yeah that would be a better place for it
15:04 slef             don't mess with /usr else you risk colliding with your operating system
15:04 nengard          slef i followed the wiki
15:03 libsysguy        i think it has the same end result
15:03 slef             at best, you want to put it in /usr/local/bin
15:03 huginn           New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6700] Better handling of version numbers in updatedatabase <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6700> / [Bug 6702] BiblioAddsAuthorities pref says too instead of to <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6702>
15:03 libsysguy        you could do that too
15:03 slef             PATH=$PATH:$HOME/git-bz
15:03 libsysguy        slef, did i tell her wrong...thats how i did it
15:03 slef             why not add the git-bz dir to your $PATH?
15:02 slef             errr, that looks bad
15:02 libsysguy        since sbin isn't in your path it doesn't see your symlink
15:02 libsysguy        so you should enter this line: sudo ln -s ~/git-bz/git-bz /usr/bin/git-bz
15:02 nengard          nengard@debian:~$ sudo ln -s ~/git-bz/git-bz /usr/sbin/git-bzln: creating symbolic link `/usr/sbin/git-bz': File exists
15:01 nengard          yes i did it and it seemed to work
15:01 libsysguy        so i notice that sbin isn;t in your path
15:01 nengard          git clone git://gitorious.org/~slef/git-bz/slefs-git-bz.git
15:01 nengard          was this the package line?
15:01 nengard          i followed the instructions
15:01 libsysguy        ok so did you git the package nengard
15:01 libsysguy        hey druthb
15:01 druthb           hi, libsysguy!
15:00 libsysguy        one sec**
15:00 libsysguy        once sec
15:00 libsysguy        yes i can
15:00 nengard          you're the one who told me this was awesome :)
15:00 nengard          libsysguy you can help me!
15:00 nengard          nengard@debian:~/kohaclone$ git bz attach 42bb257 HEADgit: 'bz' is not a git command. See 'git --help'.
15:00 libsysguy_sleep  oops
15:00 libsysguy_sleep  ok
14:59 nengard          /usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/games
14:59 nengard          nengard@debian:~/kohaclone$ echo $PATH
14:59 nengard          okay very confused
14:56 wizzyrea         gotta go afk for a bit
14:56 wizzyrea         symlink it into one of them
14:56 wizzyrea         and if git-bz isn't in one of the listed paths
14:55 wizzyrea         echo $PATH
14:55 wizzyrea         path
14:55 wizzyrea         it probably means git-bz is not in your patth
14:54 nengard          okay so i tried to follow these instructions (http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Git_bz_configuration) but when it try to attach a patch it says that bz is not a git command .. ideas?
14:43 oleonard         Hi paul_p I think I answered my own question, thanks
14:43 paul_p           ( oleonard i'm here now ;-) )
14:43 paul_p           hello again
14:42 oleonard         FYI, there is already JavaScript validation to make sure both fields aren't filled in, but it doesn't fire until the form is submitted.
14:32 kf               but opinions might be different on this
14:32 kf               I think so
14:32 oleonard         Better than showing the "cannot have.." message all the time?
14:32 kf               less clutter
14:32 kf               even better
14:31 wizzyrea         yes,
14:31 wizzyrea         oooooo
14:31 oleonard         We could also do a js message if they fill in both
14:31 wizzyrea         sorry oleonard, you asked :P
14:31 kf               hm yes
14:31 wizzyrea         maybe above instead of below, and not in grey
14:30 kf               do we need the help text with the choose one?
14:30 wizzyrea         just curious
14:29 wizzyrea         is there some error capturing if someone does try to define both?
14:29 wizzyrea         oleonard++
14:29 wizzyrea         ooo choose one
14:28 oleonard         http://screencast.com/t/cCy3wpLp97bk
14:28 kf               on top = on top of the n ew box
14:27 kf               or have the eplanation text under enrollment period
14:27 kf               perhaps have something like 'choose one' on top?
14:27 kf               the text is at the wrong place, because it sticks under the until
14:27 kf               hm yes
14:26 kf               perhaps the left margin could be a bit smaller
14:26 wizzyrea         that looks nice
14:26 wizzyrea         perhaps it's the help text that's getting me
14:26 kf               looks ok to me
14:26 kf               :)
14:25 wizzyrea         yea I thought about that
14:25 oleonard         http://screencast.com/t/f19MNvK63y
14:25 kf               until field
14:25 kf               enrollment period            field months OR
14:25 kf               perhaps smethine like
14:24 kf               hm
14:24 kf               yes
14:24 wizzyrea         a toggle might not be bad, but still a bit confusing since you have to put differently formatted data for each type of enrollment period
14:23 kf               or a toggle?
14:23 kf               another box?
14:23 kf               oleonard: I see what you mean
14:22 wizzyrea         hm yea that is sticky
14:21 oleonard         (enrollment period and "until date")
14:21 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6695 trivial, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW , Layout of patron category add/edit form slightly broken
14:21 oleonard         Bug 6695 is a simple markup problem but it highlights another one I've pondered before on that page: how to logically group those two fields to express the link between them
13:56 kf               hm only the teams on the website perhaps
13:54 kf               I am proof reading a text that states since 2002 - but I think this is maybe not correct
13:54 kf               does someone know since when koha has elected release teams?
13:45 huginn           New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6699] Add not-empty check for warnings from load_sql in Installer <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6699>
13:44 kf               rangi++
13:44 kf               chris taught me at kohacon in nz :)
13:43 kf               cool :)
13:43 kf               oleonard: (15:24:11) ***paul_p leaves for an hour or two.
13:43 tcohen           it is sending the data right now
13:43 tcohen           kf: thanks
13:43 kf               you can see your branch on gitorious now?
13:43 oleonard         paul_p around?
13:43 kf               self_healing++
13:42 tcohen           i 'suddenly' worked
13:41 kf               but rechecked things in master too
13:41 kf               starting to test the current stable version for production use
13:41 oleonard         kf: I saw that! :)
13:41 kf               oleonard: I got a bit wild on template bugs today
13:41 oleonard         gitorious is a service which offers a project hosting solution and an open source graphical interface for git repositories
13:40 kf               hi oleonard
13:40 wahanui          oleonard: I forgot gitorious
13:40 oleonard         wahanui: Forget gitorious
13:40 kf               it's a hard word to type
13:39 wahanui          gitorious is another
13:39 kf               gitorious
13:39 kf               typo perhaps?
13:39 kf               hm
13:39 tcohen           git push gitourious_es_sql origin/master
13:39 tcohen           when tunning
13:38 tcohen           fatal: 'gitourious_es_sql' does not appear to be a git repository
13:35 kf               git push gitourious_es_sql <branch you want to push>:<name for branch on gitorious>
13:35 tcohen           done
13:35 tcohen           right
13:34 kf               git fetch <yourlocalname>
13:34 kf               git fetch gitouri...
13:34 kf               next: do a git fetch
13:34 kf               cool
13:33 tcohen           now git remote show shows it
13:33 tcohen           git remote add gitorius_es_sql git@gitorious.org:koha_es-es_sql/koha_es-es_sql.git
13:32 kf               and name it
13:32 kf               introduce your gitorious repo to git :)
13:32 kf               is the first
13:32 kf               git remote add <local name> <url to repo>
13:32 kf               perhaps switch to master
13:32 kf               the checkout doesn't matter for now I think
13:31 kf               you can have various remote repositories too
13:31 tcohen           i'm sitting in my kohacommunity.org checkout, right?
13:31 kf               you should probably do somethink like
13:31 kf               ok
13:31 tcohen           nop
13:30 kf               is your gitouriosu repo in the list?
13:30 kf               when you do git remote show
13:30 kf               first I added my repo to the remoste list
13:30 tcohen           maybe we can start from the beggining because I think I don't fully understand
13:30 kf               hm never treid doing it like that
13:30 tcohen           git remote set-url --push origin git@gitorious.org:koha_es-es_sql/koha_es-es_sql.git
13:30 tcohen           I did
13:29 kf               what is your local name for the gitourious repo?
13:29 kf               i think this can not work
13:29 kf               h
13:29 kf               tcohen: the command I have written down is: git push <local remote name> <local branch name>:<remote branch name>
13:29 tcohen           git push origin master
13:28 kmkale           Namaskar #koha
13:27 kf               and what was your command for pushing?
13:27 tcohen           error: failed to push some refs to 'git@gitorious.org:koha_es-es_sql/koha_es-es_sql.git'
13:27 tcohen           error: src refspec master does not match any.
13:27 kf               and what is your error?
13:27 kf               let me check what i have done
13:27 kf               tcohen: ah ok, thought you asked about syncing later
13:26 tcohen           bye paul_p
13:25 paul_p           12 "passed QA"
13:24 paul_p           good QA time this morning...
13:24 * paul_p         leaves for an hour or two.
13:20 tcohen           which raises an error
13:20 tcohen           rangi told me to do smth like git push gitorius
13:19 kf               or rebase ... not sure about that really. I think one causes problems with other people using your repo
13:18 kf               do a merge locally and push back up
13:18 kf               hm, I think you do a merge - not a rebase, because of history?
13:18 druthb1          my gitorious repo doesn't have anything to do with koha's origin/master, so I don't.
13:17 tcohen           ?¿
13:17 tcohen           druthb1, which steps do  u follow to have a gitorius repo sync¡d with koha's origin/master
13:13 tcohen           need help on pushing a local koha-community.org local branch following origin/master to a gitorius repo I created
13:13 * druthb1        uses gitorious for her toolbox repo
13:12 tcohen           anyone there using gitorius?
13:12 tcohen           hey #koha
11:57 huginn           New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6303] Display Organisation and Parent Organisation names when viewing a borrower of type organistaion <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6303>
11:08 druthb           hi, kf! :)
11:07 kf               hi druthb :)
10:19 druthb           Hi Oak!
10:19 Oak              heya druthb :)
10:19 druthb           o/
10:04 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6078 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, julian.maurice, ASSIGNED , Patron with no checkout Report overload the server
10:04 jenkins_koha     sophie.meynieux: Bug 6078: Request to find borrowers without issues overload the server
10:04 jenkins_koha     Project Koha_master build #368: SUCCESS in 43 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/368/
10:01 Oak              ok
10:01 Oak              hehe
10:00 kf               hi ok
10:00 Oak              kf
10:00 Oak              hello #koha
10:00 kf               now I broke my git send-email
09:59 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6696 minor, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW , New category button broken when no categories defined
09:59 kf               bug 6696
09:56 kf               only the button is gone - the link remains
09:56 magnuse          but that's when you need it the most! ;-)
09:56 kf               adn there is a jquery error
09:56 kf               it breaks for me when I have no categories defined
09:56 kf               aha
09:55 kf               let me check something
09:55 kf               hm
09:55 magnuse          seems to work for me, on current head
09:44 kf               Is the new category button on administration > patron categories broken for someone else?
09:41 huginn           New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6693] Fixing some typos in German sample news <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6693>
09:30 kf               had to add --global
09:30 kf               ah
09:29 kf               I am trying to delete a git config variable - git config --unset variable seems not to work...
09:29 kf               hm
09:24 kf               noted
09:23 rangi            index is good
09:23 rangi            ALL is bad
09:23 rangi            is the type column
09:22 rangi            the important things to look at
09:20 jenkins_koha     Starting build 368 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
09:19 huginn           New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6692] Change 'Set' to 'Set library' <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6692>
09:19 kf               will google
09:18 kf               how does it work? explain <sql command>?
09:18 rangi            explain in mysql
09:17 kf               rangi: this execution plan thing looks interesting? what is it?
09:17 huginn           New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6078: Request to find borrowers without issues overload the server <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e1370001c65ca75d44497896fe6f47c716a62f26>
09:11 magnuse          yeah!
09:00 kf               we could name it strange phenomenons of switching languages
09:00 kf               same here
08:59 magnuse          but i feel i have not gotten around to investigating it enough to give a good description
08:58 magnuse          yup
08:58 kf               we should have filed a bug for that :P
08:58 kf               same here
08:58 kf               yep
08:58 magnuse          if i have not visited the opac in a long time (no language cookie, i presume), i see a mix of noregian and english, then i swithc to en and back to no and then everything is in norwegian
08:57 magnuse          yeah, i have seen something like that
08:56 kf               I often see german but the languague chooser indicates I should see english and have to switch back and forth
08:56 kf               magnuse: did you notice something weird switching langauges in 3.4.x?
08:56 kf               hm
08:54 magnuse          thanks anyway ;-)
08:54 * kf             sends eythian a cookie
08:54 kf               pehaps
08:53 eythian          for some people, I'm sure it is
08:53 kf               and that's sordid?
08:53 kf               helping me find the right cpan module?
08:53 kf               had to look up sordid first ...
08:52 eythian          how sordid!
08:52 kf               he knows for what :P
08:52 kf               magnuse++
08:51 kf               no password g
08:51 magnuse          could hav been worse ;-)
08:51 eythian          .com
08:51 kf               wrong window..
08:51 kf               y
08:49 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6483 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, salva, ASSIGNED , Paging in opac-detail when coming from a search
08:49 magnuse          paul_p: here's one of my favourites: bug 6483 - we have said a lot about how it should look and work, but i think the implementation details deserve a deep look too...
08:48 magnuse          slef: glad to hear the coop has agreed to bid!
08:42 kf               yep
08:40 eythian          doh, I really need to fix the also thing
08:40 wahanui          you are cait or really, really sweet. or <reply>she gives me memory loss
08:40 kf               kf?
08:40 * kf             glares at eythian a little
08:39 kf               nah, still better than the germs thing you did
08:39 kf               hey!
08:39 wahanui          okay, eythian.
08:39 eythian          wahanui: kf is also <reply>she gives me memory loss
08:38 wahanui          kf is cait or really, really sweet.
08:38 eythian          wahanui: kf
08:38 wahanui          kf: I forgot good news
08:38 kf               forget good news
08:38 wahanui          good news is, like, there is already a subroutine in C4::Circulation to delete transfers
08:38 kf               but good news
08:38 kf               :)
08:37 slef             oh and the coop has agreed to bid, but we need to gather more data and approach more partners
08:37 slef             Although rangi is pretty good about updating bugs with push notices now.
08:36 slef             It's mainly so I can see if jenkins_koha mentions me.
08:36 slef             yeah, eventually I get mail
08:36 kf               we shoudl talk about you more often then :)
08:35 kf               you get mail when we talk about you?
08:35 slef             but the IRC appeared in email eventually :)
08:35 slef             ah I've not seen that yet
08:35 kf               I think she said she also wrote you an email
08:35 eythian          no fax? pfft, no wonder nobody can reach you!
08:35 slef             drawbacks of multiple communication channels
08:35 kf               hehe
08:34 slef             I was on email, xmpp and phone but not IRC... so of course, I get contacted by IRC :-/
08:34 kf               k
08:34 slef             I know what it was about. Have just tried to msg her back.
08:33 kf               not sure what it was about
08:33 kf               Irma was looking for you yesterday
08:33 kf               hi slef :)
08:32 slef             paul_p: kf: I'll add more to the wiki as we sort it out, but academic venues won't give good data about the 2012/13 academic year before the 2010/11 one ends :-/
08:17 kf               ok... probably have to ask when qa mode is switched off
08:17 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4831 critical, P1, ---, henridamien, NEW , Actual Price being ignored after receive
08:17 kf               how many cookies to fix bug 4831?
08:17 * kf             has lots of virtual cookies
08:16 paul_p           if someone want to promote a bug for QA, feel free to send me a virtual cookie to convince me ;-)
08:16 eythian          It's probably not a bad solution really
08:16 * paul_p         switches to "doing QA" mode...
08:15 kf               which would also solve the problem in most cases
08:15 kf               perhaps instead of subject we could use email subject
08:15 kf               at the moment I think a good way to work around it is to use more specified strings
08:15 kf               sounds like a lof of non printing characters :)
08:14 eythian          well, not really. Any word that is spelt the same in en but can have difference meanings/senses in any other language would encounter this.
08:13 kf               but it's probably a very language specific thing
08:13 kf               hm
08:07 rangi            yeah, you could have a non printing character or someting
08:06 eythian          I mean more as in in more projects :) I'd expect it to happen enough that there'd be a good way to deal with it.
08:06 kf               but this is too prominent and too wrong
08:06 kf               eythian: in fact it's quite rare - I think I konw about 3 or four places
08:06 eythian          well, a hidden flag or something that lets you separate out different meanings.
08:05 magnuse          ouch
08:05 rangi            so the cure is almost worse
08:05 rangi            then you end up translating the smae thing lots and lots of time
08:05 rangi            but
08:05 rangi            you can translate each string, rather than group them
08:05 rangi            there is
08:05 magnuse          yeah, you'd think so
08:04 eythian          I'm a little surprised there's no way to handle that situation. It must come up more often.
08:04 kf               will make the change and send a patch :)
08:04 kf               great
08:04 magnuse          set library looks like an improvement to me too!
08:03 rangi            no objections from me
08:03 kf               because it can be an email subject or something from cataloging
08:03 rangi            nope, set library would be fine
08:03 kf               yes... subject is bad too
08:03 magnuse          and we have several similar things in norwegian i think
08:02 kf               would there be opponents to rename the set in the toolbar to 'set library' - I also get asked a lot what it does, so this might be some improvement that also fixes my problem
08:02 magnuse          kf: that's not a stupid problem, it's a sreious problem!
08:02 kf               and I can't translate them differnt now
08:02 kf               and I have it in the catalog and opac with a total different meaning for a set of items...
08:01 kf               BSZ-Bibliothek    (Set)    |   kf    (Log Out) |    [ ? ]
08:01 kf               it's used to set a library, like here:
08:01 magnuse          kf: ain't no stupid problems!
08:01 kf               the word set
08:01 wahanui          translation is, like, done through the pref files
08:01 kf               translation
08:00 kf               I have kind of a stupid problem
08:00 eythian          ah, right. Well, I'll have to keep an eye on it and see if anything happens with it.
08:00 rangi            hehe
07:59 kf               eythian: suggestions were broken for a while
07:59 eythian          that'd mean I'd feel like I have to actually work on translations ;)
07:58 rangi            you should ask fredericd for admin rights on en-NZ
07:58 rangi            ah yeah if you did a suggestion it will
07:58 eythian          it is, I changed it on translate.k-c, although it hasn't shown up, I assume it gets moderated.
07:57 rangi            its probably a bug in the .po file
07:57 rangi            yep, that'd do it
07:56 eythian          rangi: found the error that caused the buttons on the members page to vanish, it's a translation error breaking the JS (by including a '\\' when there should only be one.)
07:54 rangi            be the southernmost public library though :)
07:54 eythian          :)
07:53 paul_p           (and congrats eythian )
07:53 paul_p           hello #koha
07:53 eythian          oh yeah, forgot that
07:53 rangi            thats further south
07:53 rangi            warrington primary
06:57 magnuse          ooh, unknown kohas perching precariously on the edge of the world...
06:56 eythian          although, there's maybe some unknown ones in Dunedin, which is a bit further south.
06:56 magnuse          yeah, looked like it on the map
06:56 eythian          It could well be a contender :)
06:56 magnuse          hm, i wonder what is the worlds southernmost koha library...
06:55 eythian          yeah, six branches
06:54 magnuse          so that's more than one library then?
06:54 magnuse          cool
06:54 eythian          Waitaki District libraries, down south. They haven't set up public access to their OPAC yet, it's waiting on their IT people to set up the gateway to make that work.
06:53 magnuse          what library is that?
06:53 magnuse          woohoo
06:53 eythian          They had the old system on Monday, the new one on Tuesday, no downtime :)
06:53 magnuse          yeah, no issues would be spooky
06:52 magnuse          yay!
06:52 eythian          magnuse: actually, pretty well. It's live now. There were some issues (I'd be surprised if there weren't) but they're minor.
06:50 julian           hello magnuse
06:50 magnuse          how's the migration going eythian? or should i not ask?
06:50 magnuse          bonjour julian
06:49 julian           hello
06:48 magnuse          hiya eythian
06:48 wahanui          eythian: huh?
06:48 eythian          wahanui: oh, you know
06:48 wahanui          what's up, eythian
06:48 eythian          hi
06:47 magnuse          kia ora mtj
06:47 mtj              god dag magnuse
06:45 magnuse          kia ora #koha
06:25 cait             hi alex_a :)
06:24 alex_a           hello !
05:51 cait             hi #koha
05:03 libsysguy1       so if i have to OU's I need to pull patrons from is there anyway to set that in the principal name string
04:24 rangi            cya Brooke
04:24 Brooke           see you lovely folks sometime soon :)
04:24 Brooke           knackered!
03:57 Brooke           those RMs, always on the pull
03:56 huginn           rangi: The operation succeeded.
03:56 rangi            @later tell chris_n please pull 6259 into 3.4.x when you get a chance
03:53 Amit_Gupta_      heya Brooke
03:53 Brooke           morning tough guy
03:53 Amit_Gupta_      heya mason, chris
03:53 Amit_Gupta_      good morning koha ;)
03:30 luisb            these disconnects are a bit annoying, eh?
03:29 sekjal           night, Brooke and rangi!
03:29 rangi            cya sekjal
03:29 Brooke           night dude
03:28 Brooke           sekjal++
03:28 Brooke           oh sexy
03:28 sekjal           okay, made a custom wood-grain background for a new Koha library's opac-main-search div.  I think it's safe to call it a night
03:28 Brooke           ha ha you're still in Tejas :P
03:25 huginn           libsysguy: The current temperature in South Central Tyler, TYLER, Texas is 32.1�C (10:24 PM CDT on August 09, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 18.0�C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008.0 hPa (Steady).  Heat advisory in effect until 8 PM CDT Wednesday... 
03:25 libsysguy        @wunder 75799
03:24 eythian          maybe I was imagining it then
03:23 * ibeardslee     didn't feel anything
03:23 rangi            hmm didnt notice
03:22 eythian          or just the building shaking for aircon reasons?
03:22 wahanui          i heard quake was the one with all the splats and blooches
03:22 eythian          rangi: quake?
03:08 libsysguy        gah i can't type today
03:08 libsysguy        typo**
03:08 libsysguy        grr type
03:07 mtj              5549
03:07 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5549 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED , Hourly Loans
03:07 Brooke           bug 5549
03:07 libsysguy        does anybody know why is responsible for but 5549?
03:03 mtj              i may or may not have fixed your bug recently
03:03 mtj              jcamins_away: remember to log your problem in bugzilla
02:47 eythian          2. 2<3
02:47 Brooke           ah! The cat has murdered my Games Workshop miniature in retribution for abandoning her and coming back smelling like other cats.
02:47 Brooke           you cannot change my <3! *sulks off*
02:46 Brooke           I still <3 them :P
02:46 eythian          it's a strange french thing
02:46 eythian          it's not tag clouds
02:46 Brooke           I <3 tag clouds.
02:46 eythian          I could imagine myself doing that, anyway :)
02:46 eythian          and yeah, it should. Looks like it slipped through testing or something without people realising it was in the wrong place.
02:45 eythian          ah right
02:45 rangi            im pretty sure its not on by default, and it should probably be put in the opac.pref file
02:45 eythian          rangi: that OpacCloud thing, what's it doing a) in LocalUse, and b) on by default? (or had they changed it?)
02:42 Brooke           kia ora y'all
02:34 jcamins_away     Apparently so!
02:34 eythian          it clearly likes me better ;)
02:34 jcamins_away     Or, possibly, why it doesn't work for me.
02:33 jcamins_away     Weird. I wonder why it works for you.
02:32 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5630 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , CAS improvements
02:32 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6034 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, jwagner, ASSIGNED , Shelving cart feature can wipe permanent shelving location in certain circumstances
02:32 jenkins_koha     * Chris Cormack: Bug 5630 CAS improvements
02:32 jenkins_koha     * jwagner: Bug 6034 - Shelving cart feature can wipe permanent shelving location in certain circumstances
02:32 jenkins_koha     * paul.poulain: BZ6073: string misses to be translatable
02:32 jenkins_koha     Project Koha_master build #367: SUCCESS in 42 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/367/
02:32 eythian          seemed to work fine
02:32 pastebot         "eythian" at 202.78.240.7 pasted "Results of repeating a field" (14 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/5
02:30 eythian          let me try that again...
02:30 eythian          I wasn't saving
02:30 rangi            and you are saving eh eythian ?
02:30 jcamins_away     That particular issue has been driving me nuts for over a year, on multiple computers, multiple browsers.
02:29 jcamins_away     Hm.
02:29 eythian          Nope
02:28 jcamins_away     When you type in the new field, it doesn't erase the data in the first one?
02:27 eythian          but I could still see the value of a clone button there.
02:27 eythian          that appeared to work fine however.
02:27 eythian          yeah, it doesn't populate it
02:26 eythian          the + just repeats, according to the description
02:26 eythian          I think mine's 3.4.1 or so at the moment
02:26 jcamins_away     It's a +.
02:26 jcamins_away     There is on mine, which is pretty close to Master.
02:26 jcamins_away     Really? Well that would be a bigger error.
02:25 eythian          only subfields
02:25 eythian          there is no "duplicate field" button at all.
02:25 jcamins_away     Can't find it. Oh well. I'll look some other time.
02:23 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6621 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, prosentientsystems, ASSIGNED , Javascript error in cloning subfields
02:23 jcamins_away     Hm, bug 6621 is probably related.
02:21 * jcamins_away   looks for the bug report.
02:21 jcamins_away     It's been fixed several times, though, and it *still* is a problem. Hence, I want an interface where this won't be a problem, ever.
02:21 * eythian        checks
02:20 jcamins_away     It does seem like a bug.
02:20 eythian          I think I'm misunderstanding somewhere, but that sounds like a bug. Duplicating a field should just give you two of them, it shouldn't mess anything up.
02:19 jcamins_away     However, that is, of course, at the expense of any illusion of authority control.
02:19 jcamins_away     If you're using copy cataloging from OCLC, and not making any changes to the record, this will work fine.
02:19 jcamins_away     It is.
02:19 jcamins_away     Oh, I'd be happy if typing the second one didn't mess up the first.
02:19 jcamins_away     If I have a field like this: 650$aEmperors$vPortraits$vWorks to 1800, and I want to add another 650, clicking the clone button will screw up the already existing field.
02:18 eythian          oh it is. Go memory!
02:18 eythian          (assuming 650 is subjects, I forget)
02:17 eythian          so you make one subject, then duplicate the 650 and just edit the differences?
02:17 eythian          ah, so what you want its a "duplicate this field" option that you can then edit to make the specific changes?
02:16 jcamins_away     eythian: only if you're willing to retype the headings Every Damn Time You Change Anything.
02:16 phlunk3          basic example, but would be enough to get what you need finished: http://www.9lessons.info/2011/03/live-table-edit-with-jquery-and-ajax.html
02:16 eythian          or is it just that it's clunky?
02:15 eythian          I don't think I follow? Koha can handle that.
02:15 jcamins_away     phlunk3: I think you are vastly overestimating my proficiency with jQuery.
02:15 jcamins_away     eythian: exactly.
02:15 jcamins_away     But there needs to be an alternative for people who use more than one subdivision in their subject headings.
02:15 phlunk3          haha just make a custom script for it, can easily be accomplished with ajax in jquery
02:15 eythian          oh, so an "advanced MARC editor" or something?
02:14 jcamins_away     No, that's very true.
02:14 eythian          (basing this judgement off the screenshot, so take that for what it's worth)
02:14 jcamins_away     eythian: I'm not proposing we eliminate the Koha cataloguing interface.
02:14 jcamins_away     Since rangi (who knows everything, IMHO) didn't know of a jQuery plugin or whatnot to do that for me, I'll go with rebasing the textbox.
02:14 eythian          it'd require people to know MARC intimately, which would be a large problem for many people.
02:13 jcamins_away     I'd also be happy with a textbox, but it occurred to me perhaps I should look into something more user-friendly.
02:13 jcamins_away     Koha's cataloguing interface doesn't.
02:13 jcamins_away     eythian: it _works_.
02:13 eythian          that looks worse than koha's cataloguing interface :)
02:13 phlunk3          yeah I'd definitely go with jquery, though there are plugins nowadays that do a lot of this for you I havent worked with any of them recently.
02:12 jcamins_away     So what I want is that four-column table, where each box is editable.
02:12 jcamins_away     And that's the browser interface, too.
02:12 phlunk3          lol, googled connexion :P
02:12 jcamins_away     http://www.oclc.org/connexion/images/screens/interfaces/connexion_interface_640_03.htm
02:12 jcamins_away     Ooh! Screenshot!
02:11 phlunk3          no I am unfamiliar with the product sorry, is why the question ;) still not sure if you mean some sort of data table or a html table also.
02:11 jcamins_away     Or connexion browser, for that matter.
02:11 jcamins_away     phlunk3: everything. Have you ever used Connexion (client)?
02:10 phlunk3          what are you wanting to be "editable" ?
02:09 jcamins_away     But the non-functional cataloging interface really irritates me.
02:09 jcamins_away     Nor mine.
02:09 rangi            front end is not my forte
02:09 jcamins_away     Preferably jQuery, since that's what Koha uses for other things.
02:09 rangi            not me
02:09 jcamins_away     *a convenient way using JavaScript.
02:08 jcamins_away     rangi: don't suppose you know of anything that provides a convenient way to create an editable table a la Connexion?
02:01 phlunk3          great will try that thanks
02:01 rangi            you'd be better off mailing the lists, because its a feature the french guys wrote and they are all asleep this time of the day
02:00 phlunk3          I have set "OpacHiddenItems" to value "restricted: [1]" but the restricted items are still showing in search results, any hints guys?
01:52 Agent_Dani       Woot!
01:52 druthb           Well!
01:52 Agent_Dani       How's life treating you tonight?
01:51 druthb           Hi, Agent_Dani
01:51 rangi            hi Agent_Dani
01:49 * Agent_Dani     waves
01:49 jenkins_koha     Starting build 367 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
01:49 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6683 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, NEW , (es-ES) translate SQL scripts descriptions
01:49 jenkins_koha     tomascohen: Bug 6683 - (es-ES) translate SQL scripts description
01:49 jenkins_koha     Project Koha_master build #366: SUCCESS in 43 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/366/
01:49 bg               right on
01:39 druthb           Couple of little tricks that Kathleen showed me help too...unconscious things
01:38 druthb           bg: the new hairdo helps a lot, even with my normal makeup on
01:36 druthb           Cute!
01:35 rangi            http://www.flickr.com/photos/ranginui/5094646466/in/photostream/
01:34 druthb           Nope..  (n thanx, bg!)
01:34 rangi            http://www.flickr.com/photos/ranginui/5094565476/in/photostream/
01:33 rangi            i showed you my photos of atarau and the amish kids eh?
01:33 bg               damn typo fail - your - not you're
01:33 bg               well you're latest pics - you look great!
01:32 rangi            excellent!
01:32 druthb           Love it.  Friendly people...haven't been called sir once
01:31 rangi            ahh cool
01:31 druthb           Hi rangi!  We are in bird-in-hand, near lancaster
01:30 rangi            where in PA are you now?
01:30 rangi            heya druthb
01:22 huginn           New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5630 CAS improvements <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9a3950f673c28688a2ead6514c3320e34ec0cc4c> / Bug 6034 - Shelving cart feature can wipe permanent shelving location in certain... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2bb9904ab3379812e75c0fb5681e43ea530046af> / BZ6073: string misses to be translatable <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commit
01:05 jenkins_koha     Starting build 366 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
01:00 huginn           New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6683 - (es-ES) translate SQL scripts description <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=479685da89cb50eb724da2b2a837a6138e96df32>
00:36 daniel969        Oops the 942n
00:35 bg               942n
00:35 daniel969        thanks bg I will look into the 8424n opacsuppression setting
00:23 eythian          yeah, there's less abstraction going on that way
00:23 mtj              lvm is faster
00:22 eythian          (for a 100,000 record system
00:22 mtj              ahh.... http://justynshull.com/2011/05/xen-file-based-vs-lvm-based-disk-images-benchmarks/
00:22 eythian          (while the search index gets merged, usually ~20-30 secs)
00:22 phlunk3          thanks eythian
00:22 eythian          phlunk3: it's safe at any time, but will incur a small amount of downtime
00:21 phlunk3          can I safely rebuild the zebra index with koha-rebuild-zebra at any time after install? or should this just be done after an initial install?
00:21 eythian          I would expect lvm to be faster
00:21 mtj              .img looks easier, i'll stick with that
00:20 mtj              i'm hoping its a trivial choice... :)
00:19 mtj              lvm or img disks for xen, any preference, anyone?
00:16 bg               put a 1 in there and then turn on the opacsuppression and that will do what you are asking
00:16 bg               ah sorry I mean 942$n
00:12 daniel969        Basically I am looking for a way to exclude books from the OPAC search, has anyone managed to achieve this?
00:01 daniel969        942$c is Item Type, that needs to be Book in this case, I can't change it