Time Nick Message 23:06 jcamins_away Hello. 23:05 druthb o/ 22:11 jcamins_away rangi: what's the cut-off for 3.6? 20:57 rangi http://www.chorewars.com/invite.php?id=1374834ee7ba1 17:01 jcamins_away Ah. 17:01 cait a working link, the last is too old 17:01 cait I need a chore wars invite link :) 17:01 cait still trying :) 17:01 jcamins_away Isn't it a little early? 17:00 cait rangi 17:00 cait rangi 17:00 cait rangi 16:34 jcamins_away It is too hot and humid for biscuits. 16:25 * Oak waves 15:36 Brooke impostor! 15:35 Brooke you could make little hors d'oeuvres 15:34 jcamins_away Well, very wilted, after it had been baked at 450 degrees. 15:34 * jcamins_away ate somewhat-wilted salad on flatbread for dinner two days in a row. Do you really think there's a good answer? 15:34 Brooke ah 15:33 jcamins_away Uhhh... 15:33 Brooke why are you worried about saving this again? 15:32 Brooke oh the humanity! 15:32 jcamins_away Brooke: rubbery grocery store mozzarella. 15:32 * Brooke sneaks over to danmc's and "reallocates" a few things... 15:32 danmc and with luck I'll have several ice cube trays of pizza sauce on monday morning :) 15:31 Brooke or proper stuff? 15:31 Brooke so are you working with rubbery garbage of mozz 15:31 danmc have a pile of hot peppers in the garden and a big bag of roma tomatos 15:31 danmc I'm going to make sauce probably tomorrow. 15:31 danmc oh, wait, yeah I saw that 15:31 jcamins_away I ran out of sauce! 15:31 Brooke (He's already been naughty and had pizza once, though) 15:31 danmc no 15:31 danmc lol 15:31 jcamins_away danmc: I guess you weren't around for the great pizza debacle of '11? 15:30 Brooke ^ 15:30 danmc pizza 15:30 jcamins_away And bacon. 15:30 jcamins_away So I have shredded mozzarella to finish. 15:30 jcamins_away However, this is my monthly "use up everything in the refrigerator" weekend. 15:30 Brooke smoked mozz might allow itself to do that 15:30 Brooke you know 15:30 * Brooke nods. 15:30 jcamins_away Brooke: usually I make cheddar biscuits. 15:29 Brooke I would recommend subbing cheddar for mozz, as naughty as that is 15:29 danmc ah 15:29 jcamins_away The part that I'm having trouble with is how one balances the mozzarella and bacon so that neither overwhelms the other. 15:29 danmc while in the oven, call the cardiologist ;) 15:28 Brooke they sound rather similar to a certain Kiwi's savoury scone receipt 15:28 danmc crumble the bacon onto the biscuits 15:28 Brooke also 15:28 jcamins_away Heh. 15:28 Brooke I would suggest someone in Virginia, since they are pork specialists. 15:28 jcamins_away (N.B. the bacon is already cooked) 15:28 Brooke that would require extensive customisation 15:27 jcamins_away Bacon-mozzarella biscuits... any thoughts on how to make that work? 15:16 Brooke 0/ 15:14 liw good :) 15:14 danmc it should be easy on netbsd as well shortly ;) 15:08 * liw notes mpm-itk is very easy to install on Debian and Ubuntu, since it's been packaged for them already 15:07 danmc ok. so it looks like to get mpm-itk you patch it into an apache22 source tree and then it is a configure time selection and you end up with an apache that has been built specifically with mpm-itk. 15:03 jcamins_away Those would be even better. 15:03 jcamins_away Or fresh scallions. 15:02 jcamins_away Aww. I wish I had dried scallions. 15:01 * jcamins_away is on a "finish everything that's been opened before it goes bad" kick, so the biscuits may involve some creativity. 14:58 * druthb too 14:58 * cait wants some too 14:58 cait ooo 14:57 * jcamins_away considers making mozzarella biscuits. 14:52 * danmc is reading about it now 14:51 jcamins_away I don't know exactly what an mpm does, but I know you need itk. 14:51 danmc ok 14:51 danmc ah. 14:51 jcamins_away It's part of Apache. 14:50 danmc mpm? 14:50 jcamins_away danmc: if you install the correct mpm (itk), everything runs as KOHA_USER. 14:49 liw I must admit I can't remember the details anymore (it's been a while since I touched Koha's .deb packaging) 14:49 danmc but the real reason for the question is to understand what processes may be run by what user and where that is controlled and if setting KOHA_USER actually makes this happen. 14:49 danmc part of how this came up is I know someone who as root tried to install koha with KOHA_USER set to 'koha'. The chown -R in Makefile.PL then messed up his installed suid programs (notably 'sudo'). 14:47 danmc liw: yes, I'm trying to understand if setting KOHA_USER to something other than the default of root actually causes processes to run as the koha user or if it is an apache config thing needed to do this. 14:46 liw danmc, do mean for things like the Debian package? it is a good practice to have every server run as its own user so that if someone manages to gain control of the server process, they don't gain more privileges than that server (e.g., not other servers running on the same system) 14:40 danmc what is the purpose of having a seperate koha user and group? Are there any SUID KOHA_USER bits in koha? 14:00 druthb Neil Sperry of Dallas (broacaster for KRLD radio) takes bats from storied events at Texas Rangers games, that they donate to him, and makes pens, and sells them at his radio remotes to benefit a charity he believes in. 14:00 danmc I'm not familiar with that oak but wikipedia would suggest that it is because I've never lived near it 13:58 danmc that is really cool 13:58 druthb I had a lady bring a small log of shinnery oak to me that had been the tree in front of her mother's house, and all the family had grown up climbing that old tree before it died...and she had me make a mess of pens and keychains to give away at the family reunion. 13:57 danmc I have a small dead dogwood standing in my yard. I'm hoping to see what can be done with it. 13:57 druthb danmc: I love working storied woods like that. 13:56 danmc and I admit that I have not looked to see what year bar codes started showing up 13:56 danmc I have a mix 13:56 * danmc looks around the room and is a bit concerned by the size of the job 13:56 jcamins_away I also don't generally handle new books. ;) 13:55 jcamins_away Yup. 13:55 danmc lots of typing then? 13:55 jcamins_away danmc: not generally, no. 13:54 danmc jcamins_away: I've been meaning to ask you, when you help collectors catalog their collections, do you use any sort of bar code scanner to help on newer books? 13:53 danmc druthb, you'll appreciate this. I cut a couple of blanks out of a piece of walnut that I knew as a tree when I was 6. The dead log has been in mom and dads garage since the late 70's. 13:52 danmc good (late) morning 13:17 druthb hi, jcamins! :) 13:14 jcamins_away Hi, druthb! 12:53 druthb o/ 03:34 dbl Can anyone help? 03:32 dbl The syslog says mysqld does not have access to the InnoDB directory. 03:32 dbl We're running an older version of Kyle Hall's Koha VM. I think someone tried to use the "upgrade" command in the menu, and now mysql won't start. 03:12 druthb o/