Time  Nick           Message
23:06 jcamins_away   Hello.
23:05 druthb         o/
22:11 jcamins_away   rangi: what's the cut-off for 3.6?
20:57 rangi          http://www.chorewars.com/invite.php?id=1374834ee7ba1
17:01 jcamins_away   Ah.
17:01 cait           a working link, the last is too old
17:01 cait           I need a chore wars invite link :)
17:01 cait           still trying :)
17:01 jcamins_away   Isn't it a little early?
17:00 cait           rangi
17:00 cait           rangi
17:00 cait           rangi
16:34 jcamins_away   It is too hot and humid for biscuits.
16:25 * Oak          waves
15:36 Brooke         impostor!
15:35 Brooke         you could make little hors d'oeuvres
15:34 jcamins_away   Well, very wilted, after it had been baked at 450 degrees.
15:34 * jcamins_away ate somewhat-wilted salad on flatbread for dinner two days in a row. Do you really think there's a good answer?
15:34 Brooke         ah
15:33 jcamins_away   Uhhh...
15:33 Brooke         why are you worried about saving this again?
15:32 Brooke         oh the humanity!
15:32 jcamins_away   Brooke: rubbery grocery store mozzarella.
15:32 * Brooke       sneaks over to danmc's and "reallocates" a few things...
15:32 danmc          and with luck I'll have several ice cube trays of pizza sauce on monday morning :)
15:31 Brooke         or proper stuff?
15:31 Brooke         so are you working with rubbery garbage of mozz
15:31 danmc          have a pile of hot peppers in the garden and a big bag of roma tomatos
15:31 danmc          I'm going to make sauce probably tomorrow.
15:31 danmc          oh, wait, yeah I saw that
15:31 jcamins_away   I ran out of sauce!
15:31 Brooke         (He's already been naughty and had pizza once, though)
15:31 danmc          no
15:31 danmc          lol
15:31 jcamins_away   danmc: I guess you weren't around for the great pizza debacle of '11?
15:30 Brooke         ^
15:30 danmc          pizza
15:30 jcamins_away   And bacon.
15:30 jcamins_away   So I have shredded mozzarella to finish.
15:30 jcamins_away   However, this is my monthly "use up everything in the refrigerator" weekend.
15:30 Brooke         smoked mozz might allow itself to do that
15:30 Brooke         you know
15:30 * Brooke       nods.
15:30 jcamins_away   Brooke: usually I make cheddar biscuits.
15:29 Brooke         I would recommend subbing cheddar for mozz, as naughty as that is
15:29 danmc          ah
15:29 jcamins_away   The part that I'm having trouble with is how one balances the mozzarella and bacon so that neither overwhelms the other.
15:29 danmc          while in the oven, call the cardiologist ;)
15:28 Brooke         they sound rather similar to a certain Kiwi's savoury scone receipt
15:28 danmc          crumble the bacon onto the biscuits
15:28 Brooke         also
15:28 jcamins_away   Heh.
15:28 Brooke         I would suggest someone in Virginia, since they are pork specialists.
15:28 jcamins_away   (N.B. the bacon is already cooked)
15:28 Brooke         that would require extensive customisation
15:27 jcamins_away   Bacon-mozzarella biscuits... any thoughts on how to make that work?
15:16 Brooke         0/
15:14 liw            good :)
15:14 danmc          it should be easy on netbsd as well shortly ;)
15:08 * liw          notes mpm-itk is very easy to install on Debian and Ubuntu, since it's been packaged for them already
15:07 danmc          ok.  so it looks like to get mpm-itk you patch it into an apache22 source tree and then it is a configure time selection and you end up with an apache that has been built specifically with mpm-itk.
15:03 jcamins_away   Those would be even better.
15:03 jcamins_away   Or fresh scallions.
15:02 jcamins_away   Aww. I wish I had dried scallions.
15:01 * jcamins_away is on a "finish everything that's been opened before it goes bad" kick, so the biscuits may involve some creativity.
14:58 * druthb       too
14:58 * cait         wants some too
14:58 cait           ooo
14:57 * jcamins_away considers making mozzarella biscuits.
14:52 * danmc        is reading about it now
14:51 jcamins_away   I don't know exactly what an mpm does, but I know you need itk.
14:51 danmc          ok
14:51 danmc          ah.
14:51 jcamins_away   It's part of Apache.
14:50 danmc          mpm?
14:50 jcamins_away   danmc: if you install the correct mpm (itk), everything runs as KOHA_USER.
14:49 liw            I must admit I can't remember the details anymore (it's been a while since I touched Koha's .deb packaging)
14:49 danmc          but the real reason for the question is to understand what processes may be run by what user and where that is controlled and if setting KOHA_USER actually makes this happen.
14:49 danmc          part of how this came up is I know someone who as root tried to install koha with KOHA_USER set to 'koha'.  The chown -R in Makefile.PL then messed up his installed suid programs (notably 'sudo').
14:47 danmc          liw:  yes, I'm trying to understand if setting KOHA_USER to something other than the default of root actually causes processes to run as the koha user or if it is an apache config thing needed to do this.
14:46 liw            danmc, do mean for things like the Debian package? it is a good practice to have every server run as its own user so that if someone manages to gain control of the server process, they don't gain more privileges than that server (e.g., not other servers running on the same system)
14:40 danmc          what is the purpose of having a seperate koha user and group?  Are there any SUID KOHA_USER bits in koha?
14:00 druthb         Neil Sperry of Dallas (broacaster for KRLD radio) takes bats from storied events at Texas Rangers games, that they donate to him, and makes pens, and sells them at his radio remotes to benefit a charity he believes in.
14:00 danmc          I'm not familiar with that oak but wikipedia would suggest that it is because I've never lived near it
13:58 danmc          that is really cool
13:58 druthb         I had a lady bring a small log of shinnery oak to me that had been the tree in front of her mother's house, and all the family had grown up climbing that old tree before it died...and she had me make a mess of pens and keychains to give away at the family reunion.
13:57 danmc          I have a small dead dogwood standing in my yard.  I'm hoping to see what can be done with it.
13:57 druthb         danmc: I love working storied woods like that.
13:56 danmc          and I admit that I have not looked to see what year bar codes started showing up
13:56 danmc          I have a mix
13:56 * danmc        looks around the room and is a bit concerned by the size of the job
13:56 jcamins_away   I also don't generally handle new books. ;)
13:55 jcamins_away   Yup.
13:55 danmc          lots of typing then?
13:55 jcamins_away   danmc: not generally, no.
13:54 danmc          jcamins_away:  I've been meaning to ask you, when you help collectors catalog their collections, do you use any sort of bar code scanner to help on newer books?
13:53 danmc          druthb, you'll appreciate this.  I cut a couple of blanks out of a piece of walnut that I knew as a tree when I was 6.  The dead log has been in mom and dads garage since the late 70's.
13:52 danmc          good (late) morning
13:17 druthb         hi, jcamins! :)
13:14 jcamins_away   Hi, druthb!
12:53 druthb         o/
03:34 dbl            Can anyone help?
03:32 dbl            The syslog says mysqld does not have access to the InnoDB directory.
03:32 dbl            We're running an older version of Kyle Hall's Koha VM. I think someone tried to use the "upgrade" command in the menu, and now mysql won't start.
03:12 druthb         o/