Time Nick Message 22:01 jcamins_away Good night. 22:01 wizzyrea :) 22:01 wizzyrea and with that, friends, I bid you adieu 22:00 jcamins_away Hm. I guess I should've thought of that, too. 22:00 wizzyrea Patterson's new one is in there too 21:59 wizzyrea to me 21:59 jcamins_away Don't know why I didn't think of Hunger Games. 21:59 wizzyrea ^^ is surprising 21:59 wizzyrea and how to train your dragon 21:59 jcamins_away Oh, of course! 21:59 wizzyrea The hunger games trilogy 21:59 wizzyrea the DVD 21:59 wizzyrea Tangled 21:59 wizzyrea more issues = (to an extent) more items purchased 21:59 jcamins_away Ah. 21:58 wizzyrea i'm not sure a lot of our libraries are buying multiple copies of martin 21:58 wizzyrea it'd be up there 21:58 wizzyrea I suspect if you looked at old_issues 21:58 jcamins_away Okay, I'm not sure what else. 21:58 wizzyrea however 21:58 wizzyrea another surprising no 21:58 jcamins_away George R.R. Martin? 21:58 wizzyrea Evanovich's newest 21:58 wizzyrea several of the twilight books 21:57 jcamins_away Okay, I have 3 of them. 21:57 jcamins_away That's what I figured. 21:57 wizzyrea no to steig larssen 21:56 wizzyrea :) yep 21:56 jcamins_away (of HP) 21:56 wizzyrea no, surprisingly 21:56 jcamins_away Book one and book seven? 21:56 jcamins_away Stieg Larssen? 21:56 wizzyrea two of the books are in the top 20 yes 21:56 jcamins_away Harry Potter? 21:56 wizzyrea any other guesses? 21:56 wizzyrea yes 21:55 jcamins_away Is one of them Twilight? 21:54 wizzyrea top 20 bibs with most items checked out 21:54 wizzyrea oh this is a fun report 20:54 Brooke I just know it! 20:54 Brooke ata's gonna win 20:54 Brooke football! 20:54 Brooke hooray 20:52 rangi right, time to atarau to play football, bbl 20:51 wizzyrea rangi++ 20:51 wizzyrea but thank you 20:51 wizzyrea ok now I feel extra dumb. 20:51 rangi select count(*),biblionumber from reserves group by biblionumber; 20:50 wizzyrea eiving it even 20:50 * Brooke nods and smiles. 20:50 wizzyrea i feel that this should be easier than I'm concieving it 20:49 wizzyrea i don't want to count how many distinct individual biblionumbers in reserves, I want to count how many reserves per distinct biblionumber. 20:48 Brooke it doesn't have to work :) 20:48 Brooke it's American Friday afternoon 20:48 wizzyrea mah brain is not wurking. 20:25 Brooke a yep 20:25 wizzyrea but, it's their right 20:24 * Brooke nods. 20:24 * wizzyrea thinks they might be crazy. 20:24 rangi ppl still install 2.2.5 now 20:24 wizzyrea http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_MSt3k5WKZdA/TUpJcK0rK5I/AAAAAAAABRk/p_ynZQqCAY0/s1600/c.png 20:24 wizzyrea also brooke 20:22 wizzyrea oh, nm 20:21 wizzyrea but in 09, we were on 3.0. That's bewildering. 20:21 wizzyrea in 2009 20:20 Brooke practically local :D 20:20 Brooke Kathmandu 20:20 Brooke oh sweet 20:20 wizzyrea http://mtech-ku.blogspot.com/2009/11/report-on-deployment-of-koha-at.html 20:20 wizzyrea hmm 20:19 wizzyrea uhhhhhh 20:17 Brooke so I can credit it properly? 20:17 Brooke who had that blogspot screenshot 20:17 Brooke so uh 20:13 Brooke I just can't resist Cartman, where Cartman can be quoted. 20:12 Brooke that's usually how things get better. :D 20:12 Brooke feel free to disagree 20:12 Brooke RESPECT MAH AUTHORITAY?!!$ !@$ ;) 20:11 wizzyrea mm I'm not sure I agree, but I respect your opinion. 20:10 Brooke it was loud, but more intuitive. 20:09 wizzyrea obviously we saw the error of our ways 20:09 wizzyrea and then I installed openbiblio :P 20:09 wizzyrea and it looked like that 20:08 wizzyrea i remember the very first time I installed koha 20:06 Brooke that is what I meant, so thanks :) 20:05 wizzyrea hm yea 20:05 Brooke that is the intranet, no? 20:05 wizzyrea http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_MSt3k5WKZdA/TUpJsDrAOyI/AAAAAAAABRo/I8boAKsH9Fg/s1600/e.png 20:05 rangi that was only on the opac 20:05 wahanui well, the opac is for patrons 20:05 rangi oh, the opac 20:04 * Brooke hopes that at least this slideshow will be of use to Ian if it's not gonna be at conference. 20:04 Brooke looking for the big old koru that had modules next to it 20:04 Brooke no and no :( 20:03 wizzyrea and good morning 20:02 wizzyrea lookit all of those toolbars! 20:02 wizzyrea ohsnap 20:02 rangi http://photos.bigballofwax.co.nz/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=12 20:01 * wizzyrea reminds rhcl_away to turn 'safe search' back on 20:00 wizzyrea http://gallery.katipo.co.nz/albums/album102/home_v2.sized.jpg 20:00 wizzyrea you mean this one brooke 20:00 Brooke kitty feeding time, brb 20:00 rhcl_away uh, no, I don't think anything library related would pull against some of the images that came up. 19:58 Brooke rhcl I think it happens because of all of the library 2.0 crap messin it up 19:58 rhcl_away but judging from some of the results a "koha" search term pulled I'd say google is using zebra as an indexer 19:57 SirDekar don't worry it was my mistake 19:57 rhcl_away some images on images.google.com, but I didn't see a welcome screen 19:57 Brooke sorry about the trouble 19:57 Brooke outstanding :D 19:57 SirDekar had to start over 19:57 SirDekar that command I mentioned was left :P 19:56 SirDekar I did it Brooke, thanks 19:52 Brooke anyone have a screen shot of the 2.0 staff welcome screen? You know, ole lime green? 19:31 Brooke I just feel bad that no native spanish speakers are on at the moment. There are a tonne that use Koha, so try the listserv if all else fails. 19:28 SirDekar I'll see if this solve my problem 19:28 SirDekar "$ cd misc/translator && perl install-code.pl fr-FR es-ES" 19:28 SirDekar no I found a command to apply traslations 19:27 SirDekar it was a problem 19:21 Brooke ¿tienes problemas ahorra? ¿o solo preguntas? 19:17 * Brooke wishes she had been Spanish cataloguing sooner than last year... 19:16 SirDekar :D 19:12 Brooke *before* installation, or _after_? XD 19:12 SirDekar I am investigating 19:11 Brooke did you try and encounter a problem? 19:11 * Brooke nods. 19:10 SirDekar all of them, I am from Panama, spanish speakers 19:10 SirDekar just few of them could know english 19:10 Brooke plenty of them 19:10 SirDekar clients/users know spanish 19:07 Brooke http://translate.koha-community.org/es/ 19:07 Brooke *should* 19:06 SirDekar web installer can be installed in Spanish, right? 19:05 wizzyrea ah yea I see 19:05 wizzyrea from es? 19:05 Brooke at least what's linked. 19:05 Brooke yuck, documentation is only english; spanish is a version behind and only in pdf 19:04 SirDekar si 19:03 Brooke ha visto http://es.koha-community.org/? 19:03 Brooke no, lociento 19:02 SirDekar alguien ha instalado Koha en español? 19:02 Brooke 0/ 19:01 wizzyrea ah it's all good I can ask her monday 19:01 Brooke cause I don't see either handle on 19:01 Brooke you prolly have to @later 18:59 wizzyrea about? 18:59 wizzyrea cait / kf 18:58 Agent_Dani wizzyrea: Cool! I'll have to check that out. 18:55 Brooke 0/ 18:26 wizzyrea I don't have much interest in it, but thought maybe someone here might 18:25 wizzyrea that's free today 18:25 wizzyrea those of you using redhat/fedora/centOS, there's an android app "Linux Cheat Sheet" 18:15 Agent_Dani wizzyrea: I'll take the ice here...might break the all-time record high here. 18:14 oleonard don't worry wizzyrea it will melt down his shirt on its own 18:14 * wizzyrea runs away laughing 18:14 * wizzyrea puts ice down libsysguy's shirt as a prize 18:14 * libsysguy accepts oleonard's prized ice cream 18:13 wizzyrea which items have the most holds 18:13 wizzyrea what items have the most checked out items 18:13 * oleonard gives libsysguy an ice cream cone as a prize 18:13 wizzyrea such as 18:13 libsysguy MUHAHA oleonard loses the heat wave by .8 degrees 18:13 wizzyrea the librarians want a "trending" display on the OPAC 18:13 wizzyrea ooooo 18:10 wizzyrea ah yea, it's high thin clouds. I can see why they say clear. But that's still more clouds than we've had in weeks. :P 18:09 bg man you all are like twice as hot as me -- 16 vs. 30 18:09 oleonard Crazy talk. 18:09 * wizzyrea actually goes OUTSIDE to check 18:08 wizzyrea it doesn't look clear 18:08 wizzyrea that's odd 18:08 wizzyrea but it says clear 18:08 wizzyrea cloudy, for the first time in weeks 18:08 wizzyrea it's nice today 18:08 wizzyrea :) 18:08 oleonard wizzyrea is going to need a sweater if it gets any cooler there. 18:07 huginn` oleonard: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 30.7�C (1:07 PM CDT on July 29, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 22.0�C. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014.4 hPa (Steady). Excessive heat watch in effect from Sunday afternoon through Wednesday evening... 18:07 oleonard @wunder 66044 18:07 oleonard You've only got .8° on us libsysguy 18:06 huginn` oleonard: The current temperature in Athens, Ohio is 33.0�C (1:55 PM EDT on July 29, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 21.0�C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1016 hPa (Falling). Heat advisory in effect until 8 PM EDT this evening... 18:06 oleonard @wunder 45701 17:55 libsysguy lol 17:55 libsysguy you were in the in the winter 17:54 nengard tyler was plenty nice when i was there 17:54 libsysguy exactly...tyler is the hottest place in the US i swear 17:53 nengard jinx 17:53 jcamins_away Heh. It's much hotter in Tyler than anywhere else, and there's no warning. 17:53 nengard it's hotter in TX but there is no warning there :0 17:53 nengard that's funny 17:53 huginn` libsysguy: The current temperature in South Central Tyler, TYLER, Texas is 33.8�C (12:52 PM CDT on July 29, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: 22.0�C. Pressure: 30.05 in 1017.5 hPa (Steady). 17:53 libsysguy @wunder 75799 17:53 nengard heh 17:52 jcamins_away Yay! No warnings or watches! 17:52 huginn` jcamins_away: The current temperature in Middle Village, Queens, New York is 27.8�C (1:50 PM EDT on July 29, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 23.0�C. Pressure: 29.88 in 1011.7 hPa (Falling). 17:52 jcamins_away @wunder 11375 17:52 huginn` wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 30.6�C (12:51 PM CDT on July 29, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 22.0�C. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014.4 hPa (Steady). Excessive heat watch in effect from Sunday afternoon through Wednesday evening... 17:52 wizzyrea @wunder lawrence ks 17:52 nengard I want to move to 93109 17:51 nengard HA! 17:51 huginn` nengard: The current temperature in Maple Point, Langhorne, Pennsylvania is 30.0�C (1:50 PM EDT on July 29, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: 25.0�C. Pressure: 29.87 in 1011.4 hPa (Falling). Heat advisory in effect until 10 PM EDT this evening... 17:51 nengard @wunder 19030 17:50 bg see it's cold :) 17:49 huginn` bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 16.8�C (10:48 AM PDT on July 29, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014.4 hPa (Rising). 17:49 bg @wunder 93109 17:49 bg rhcl_away: here you go 17:49 bg rhcl here you go 16:43 nengard found it biblio.copyrightdate 16:43 nengard i think 16:43 nengard can someone remind me where the publication year for marc21 goes? for unimarc it's biblioitems.publicationyear 15:53 kf have a nice weekend all! 15:53 kf ok, time to leave 15:39 kf afaik 15:33 libsysguy so for now its online only? 15:33 libsysguy hmm 15:33 kf to do that, not sure about the version 15:33 kf hm I think there is a patch for 3.6 15:33 libsysguy because it looks like it pulls the csv file out of the http header 15:32 libsysguy can i use the import_borrowers script via command line 15:04 sekjal brb 15:02 oleonard drupal-- # for making upgrades difficult. 15:01 paul_p probably a backdoor in drupal or mantis (that are also on this server) let the hacker upload enlightement rootkit. We will upgrade ASAP & check the server everytime... 15:00 paul_p OK, mail server is back ! 14:58 sekjal I think it should work all around... but I could be mistaken 14:58 kf coworker said he copied the solution from a source in the internet 14:57 kf we don#t do returns on this self check - so not sure there is needed something at other places in the code 14:54 sekjal I think I could wrangle some volunteers to test it 14:53 kf other problems may arise 14:52 kf not sure this is the perfect solution- but it solves our problem 14:52 pastebot "kf" at 193.197.29.135 pasted "From 9176fd464eae3782fe96b53bc" (33 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/1404 14:52 sekjal right 14:52 kf really 14:52 kf not a solution for germany 14:51 kf I am posting the patch we created to pastebin, give me a sec 14:51 sekjal I scrubbed the diacritic marks 14:51 kf this might be your hack 14:51 kf he says the slips are not printing correctly, but the checking out process works now 14:51 sekjal that's much more elegant than the hack I wrote 14:51 kf our customer was able to checkout the books now on the self check 14:51 sekjal oh! 14:51 kf we changed the checksum calculation, he told me something about not counting letters but bits? 14:50 kf solution was on the web 14:50 sekjal how? 14:50 kf we got it working now 14:50 kf yes 14:50 sekjal kf: are we talking critics in titles over SIP connections? 14:49 sekjal kf: meeting done 14:48 kf wizzyrea: want a patch? 14:48 * kf grins 14:48 kf hi paul_p: we solve dit :) 14:40 oleonard I guess it's taken me a while to fill this one up. 14:39 * oleonard finds notes in his notebook about NPL's upgrade to Koha 2.2 14:33 paul_p kf, about 3M, I can't help i'm afraid, only hdl could. 14:30 paul_p kf, yes around (and just discovered one of our recent customer has all his table in myISAM, so witjout contraints...) sh..t friday ! 14:23 * kf nods 14:23 wizzyrea that is also interesting. I wonder what they did to fix it, because special characters make our 3M machines puke. 14:22 kf hdl told me they had 3M self checks and it worked 'like a charm' 14:21 druthb :D 14:21 kf I wonder how they work in france 14:21 wizzyrea though I admit I haven't looked at it in months, the library just deals with it 14:21 wizzyrea not yet 14:21 * jcamins_away passes along the hug, and returns with a hug for Ruth. 14:21 kf wizzyrea: and you found no work around for pokemon? 14:20 druthb ;-) 14:20 * druthb hugs her second-favorite New Yorker, and sends one with him to pass along to her favorite. 14:20 jcamins_away Hi, druthb! 14:20 kf pokemon :) 14:20 kf oh my 14:20 kf paul_p: still around? aren't you working with 3m too in some of your libraries? 14:20 wizzyrea at least in our self check library 14:19 wizzyrea you will be hailed as the mighty savior of pokémon 14:19 libsysguy ok i can do that 14:19 druthb hi, jcamins_away! :) 14:19 wizzyrea nope 14:19 kf and I will get beaten up for it in the end? ;) 14:19 * libsysguy is a lazy java programmer 14:19 druthb split returns an array, and you're wanting to push a scalar, so you have to grab a specific one...you could do what you're trying, but better to take a line, so you can read it later. 14:19 kf lol 14:19 wizzyrea "the germans can do it, why can't you" 14:19 wizzyrea and an excellent stick to beat 3M with 14:19 jcamins_away libsysguy: I think you're better off using a variable, so that you can figure out what it means. 14:19 wizzyrea actually that's a very very good point 14:19 wizzyrea yes, that 14:18 kf I think they probably made it work with unicode 14:18 wizzyrea welllll 14:18 libsysguy here is what i actually have push(@patron,split('@',$row[3])[0]); #split email to get userid 14:18 kf especially not with diacritics 14:18 libsysguy hmm is there anyway to do it without assigning it to a var 14:18 kf we send test cases for them to work and they tested a lot and so far except for the known problems with holds we had no bigger problems 14:17 druthb you could use ,1 and leave off the undef, but this is explicit--I want the first thing, and deliberately toss the rest. 14:17 kf not sure if they had to do a lot of stuff 14:17 druthb my ($result,undef) = split(/\@/,$incoming_variable,2); 14:16 wizzyrea specifically, the problem isn't koha 14:16 wizzyrea uh, i realize how ironic that sounds. 14:16 wizzyrea so maybe the problem isn't SIP, it's 3M 14:16 wizzyrea that is VERY interesting 14:16 kf other library uses german vendor 14:16 kf yeah 14:16 libsysguy druthb any tips on doing a split and only taking the first element...im trying to split an email on the @ and only grab the name so elliott@uttyler.edu would return elliott with split('@','elliott@uttyler.edu')[0] 14:16 wizzyrea other vendor for self check? 14:15 kf and it all shows up perfectly 14:15 kf migrated hebrew in 245$a titles 14:15 kf and they have hebrew titles 14:15 kf we had no problems with our other vendor 14:15 kf wizzyrea: ouch 14:14 druthb libsysguy: it does take time, and it takes doing it a lot. One thing I've learned a lot from is Perl Best Practices. There is no one right way to do all this--that's one of the features of perl, is that you can do darn near anything six ways--but PBP advocates for, and presents, one way to do things that makes for easy to read, easy to maintain code that you can recycle and use over and over. 14:13 wizzyrea is something that we have been trying to figure out for a couple of years :/ 14:13 wizzyrea that, my dear friend 14:13 wizzyrea well 14:13 libsysguy yeah i think it'll take time for me to learn 14:13 kf how do we make the sad panda happier? 14:12 wizzyrea it'll kick it offline, in my experience 14:12 kf ohoh 14:12 kf only supposed to check out 14:12 wizzyrea yea, special characters + 3m + sip = sad panda 14:12 kf yep 14:12 wizzyrea using SIP? 14:12 kf yep 14:12 wizzyrea 3m self check? 14:12 druthb i-am-but-an-egg, libsysguy, but thank you. I've been at it a while, and I've learned a few useful tricks. 14:12 kf and I think I remember you talking about checksums 14:11 kf we have problems with titles with umlauts and wonder if that could be the reason 14:11 kf checksum, 3m self check 14:11 kf ah 14:11 sekjal kf: here, but in a meeting at the moment 14:11 libsysguy druthb your perl scripting skills are far superior to my own 14:11 wizzyrea how's it goin? 14:11 kf sekjal: around? 14:10 druthb wizzyrea, hi thar 14:09 wizzyrea druthb, hi thar 14:03 oleonard List traffic... that's a good sign. 13:51 * oleonard always feels that using a subquery is "cheating," but isn't sure why 13:50 wizzyrea so yay~! 13:50 wizzyrea same number 13:50 wizzyrea that lists them out and gets the same as select count(distinct borrowernumber) from reserves; 13:49 oleonard select * from borrowers where borrowernumber in (select distinct borrowernumber from reserves) ? 13:49 oleonard You could do it with a subquery I suppose wizzyrea 13:43 wizzyrea something like - count each unique patron number in reserves and old_reserves 13:42 libsysguy hey oleonard i think ifigured it out 13:42 wizzyrea a report that shows how many patrons place holds 13:42 libsysguy YAYYYY 13:42 wizzyrea friday morning stumper: 13:40 libsysguy oh yeah...a bit 13:38 oleonard The ones on the page 13:38 libsysguy oleonard: where are the instructions...did i miss them on the wiki or are you referring to the instructions on the side of the page 13:31 oleonard The instructions do sound tricky. 13:28 libsysguy and im not sure how to format it in the csv file 13:28 libsysguy i have an extended attribute that i want to import 13:28 libsysguy can somebody give me a hand with the bulk patron import script 13:15 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6635] Can't page through results in label batch <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6635> 12:24 oleonard A pretty one, maybe... 12:24 oleonard If I load additem.pl without passing a biblionumber I don't think I should get an ugly error page 12:24 oleonard it drives me crazy that Koha scripts don't gracefully handle errors when parameters are missing. 12:12 kf hi Agent_Dani 12:11 Agent_Dani :D Slogging through work. Dealing with low-priority stuff as I can't do anything with my high-priority project right now. 12:10 druthb hi, Agent_Dani! 12:10 wahanui niihau, Agent_Dani 12:10 Agent_Dani Hi 12:05 oleonard Hi 12:05 druthb hi, oleonard! :D 11:07 kf gymnastics_at_work++ 11:07 * kf will be sore tomorrow - gymnastics 11:07 kf lol 10:56 druthb rangi++ 10:56 rangi i may be drunk, but i can still ban wiki spammers 10:46 druthb good morning, #koha. :) 10:06 kf paul_p: no reason to be sorry :) Easy to miss, I just didn't want you to worry about the patch 10:05 kf I think leavint it open is best, without a status for patch send 10:05 paul_p shouldn't we let "patch pushed" so ? (even if there's a problem) 10:05 paul_p kf, oups, sorry 10:03 kf paul_p: bub 6066 has already been pushed, I will reset the status and have added a comment. I was testing to close the bug when I found a problem. 10:00 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6066] itemtype when ordering and item-level_itype=no <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6066> 09:47 paul_p OK, solution for restarting the server found.Should be back in less than 2 hours... 09:31 Brooke *knocks on wood* at least the bot programmers were lazy and didn't foresee a revert war 09:29 Brooke git 'em Paul! :) 09:29 paul_p seems the server has really been hacked... 08:56 Brooke I'm positive that nengard, paul, magnus, gmcharlt can all do so. (hint, hint.) 08:54 Brooke but it'd be cool to drop the ban hammer on em 08:54 Brooke I reverted what I could 08:54 kf Brooke: there is lots of spam on the wiki - but normally someone blocks very fast 08:52 kf not sure 08:45 Brooke anyone on that's cool enough to IP ban a wiki bot? 08:43 Brooke kia ora 08:35 paul_p security++, but reboot without warning-- 08:34 paul_p well, the server is OK. We could request the provider to reboot it normally. But he could detect a hacking again. Except it seems that this provider sometimes shutdown for security reason, without a valid reason (some complains found on the forums...) 08:33 kf paul_p: and that on a friday - hope you can solve it soon 08:25 kf double ouch 08:18 paul_p shut down by the provider. mailing lists down 08:12 kf ouch :( 08:09 paul_p BibLibre mail server hacked... 07:48 wahanui hola, lds 07:48 lds paulp_: bonjour 07:13 kf hi #koha 06:55 julian hello! 06:34 bg welcome back peeps 06:33 bg bye peeps 05:16 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 4222] Nonpublic note not appearing in the staff client <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4222> 05:06 cait morning all 03:57 eythian cya 03:57 libsysguy :) 03:57 libsysguy thanks eythian 03:57 libsysguy oh well...im off to bed to welcome friday in with shut eyes 03:57 libsysguy yeah it does... 03:56 eythian Man. The past sure does suck. 03:56 libsysguy :'(* 03:56 libsysguy i still have an hour till its friday 03:56 libsysguy and i had my days of drinking...college 03:56 eythian it is Friday after all 03:55 libsysguy its ok...i don't think i can finish this tonight anyway 03:55 eythian *no 03:55 eythian unfortunately now 03:55 eythian wow. You must miss out on a lot. 03:55 libsysguy you wouldn't happen to know the answer to my question would you? 03:54 libsysguy lol 03:54 libsysguy but thanks for making me want to move to NZ 03:54 libsysguy negative good sir 03:54 eythian don't you do that? 03:54 eythian yes? 03:54 libsysguy *jealous eyes* 03:54 libsysguy omg there is an entire day dedicated to drinking 03:53 eythian rangi has gone to prepare for friday drinking 03:53 libsysguy what would i put there? 03:53 libsysguy if i have a patron attribute defined 03:52 libsysguy rangi in the bulk patron import tool i see there is a patron attribute field 03:35 libsysguy exactly 03:35 rangi heh yeah it has to cater to everything 03:35 libsysguy well i can safely safely say that Koha's was far more complex than mine :p 03:35 rangi http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz/2011/07/29/changes-for-3-4-3-broken-down-by-filetype/ 03:35 rangi *nod* 03:34 libsysguy its cool...writing a script is a learning process anyway 03:34 rangi sorry i didnt tell ya earlier 03:33 * libsysguy cries a little on the inside 03:33 rangi i suspect it does ;) 03:33 libsysguy but im going to be upset if it does the same thing as the script i just wrote lol 03:33 rangi in the staff interface 03:33 rangi look under tools 03:33 rangi ahhh 03:33 libsysguy no i haven't 03:32 jcamins_away rangi: thanks. 03:32 rangi that can import a csv file, and do extended attributes etc 03:32 rangi libsysguy: you have seen the borrower import tool in koha eh? 03:31 rangi yup i think so jcamins_away 03:31 jcamins_away libsysguy: no, they're in the extended attributes table. 03:31 libsysguy i see it in the other table 03:31 jcamins_away Actually, that's how we handle items already, isn't it? 03:31 libsysguy oops 03:31 libsysguy are the extended attributes in borrowers? 03:30 jcamins_away rangi: any idea if I could add a koha:visibility attribute to MARCXML? 03:29 libsysguy ok i might do the extended attributes 03:29 rangi or you could use extended attributes 03:29 rangi yep, you could use it for that 03:29 wahanui any ideas are welcome :) 03:29 libsysguy any ideas? 03:28 libsysguy i was looking for a field to put whether a student is a freshman, sophomore etc 03:28 rangi borrowers table 03:28 libsysguy jcamins_away: do you know where they are in the database 03:28 rangi libsysguy: yeah, you can leave them blank safely 03:28 jcamins_away libsysguy: they're for your own use for reporting. 03:27 jcamins_away Hypothetically speaking, could a valid MARCXML document have attributes on the subfield tag from a different namespace? 03:26 libsysguy rangi do you know what the sort 1 and sort 2 fields are for when you enter a new patron 02:36 libsysguy rangi++ for good coding music selection 02:36 rangi how bout http://soundcloud.com/wick-it/beastie-boys-no-sleep-till 02:35 libsysguy now this is my kind of music 02:11 rangi libsysguy: http://soundcloud.com/neek-dubstep/liquid-torqux-power-stalkers 02:07 libsysguy ok cool :) 02:07 libsysguy until it replicates i suppose it won't be there 02:07 rangi if its doing ldap auth, dont need a password in the koha db 02:07 rangi nope 02:06 libsysguy is that going to be a problem? 02:06 libsysguy we are probably just going to be doing LDAP auth at the university but i have a feed of currently enrolled students that I am going to push to the database that doesn't contain passwords 02:05 rangi maybe 02:02 libsysguy anybody around that can offer up some advice on the borrowers table? 02:01 libsysguy evening #Koha 01:01 Brooke ooooh Melissa Harris Perry 00:58 jcamins_away Heh. 00:57 Brooke http://www.wben.com/pages/8230372.php? 00:56 jcamins_away What? 00:56 Brooke "He's a business man from Buffalo?" 00:56 jcamins_away Hence the looseness of the definition. 00:56 * jcamins_away hunted and gathered extensively in the wilds of his refrigerator and pantry. 00:56 Brooke psha, fine hunter / gatherer you are :P 00:55 jcamins_away Also, I have neither venison nor wild rice. 00:55 jcamins_away That sounds good too, but it fails the "must be pizza" requirement for my dinner. 00:55 Brooke I just _didn't_/ 00:55 Brooke not that I *can't* make pizza 00:54 Brooke some dried cranberries in there, though 00:54 Brooke just venison and wild rice 00:54 Brooke nah no pizza 00:53 jcamins_away Intriguing. 00:53 jcamins_away Venison and wild rice pizza? 00:51 Brooke I still have some venison and wild rice. 00:51 Brooke That sounds dangerous 00:51 * Brooke grunts. 00:51 * jcamins_away reinterprets "pizza" in the loosest possible sense of the word. 00:50 wahanui friday is It's Friday, Friday Gotta get down on Friday 00:50 Brooke wahanui: friday? 00:50 Brooke kia ora 00:21 Judit :) 00:19 jcamins_away Oh no! I have no cheese! 00:17 danmc but perhaps yours is a ROHS one 00:16 danmc I prefer to not put leaded items in my dishwasher... 00:12 rhcl off to do stuff...ltr 00:10 rhcl 'em whole. 00:10 rhcl I did learn, after about my third one, that it was better to take the time to actually take them apart and wash just the upper part, not the electronics. It took about three days to dry out if I washed 00:08 jcamins_away rhcl: the last time I washed a keyboard with rubbing alcohol was probably about a decade ago, and it was a *really cheap* one. 00:07 rhcl Well, I wash them (keyboards) in the dishwasher fairly often, but then they have to dry overnight. I was thinking alcohol might speed up the drying process. 00:07 jcamins_away It's just way too humid. 00:07 * jcamins_away is not feeling optimistic about this pizza. 00:06 jcamins_away It depends on the type of plastic. 00:06 jcamins_away rhcl: I'd say it's worth a try. 00:02 rhcl ya think? I'm thinking it wouldn't hurt it, but maybe I'll just buy a new one. 00:00 Judit happy sysadmin day - dont forget to buy/make pizza to your sysadmin :)