Time  Nick               Message
23:57 bg                 yup I'm sold gonna make pizza too
23:56 jcamins_away       rhcl: yeah, and it'll dissolve, too!
23:54 rhcl               I need to wash my keyboard. I wonder if I use alcohol if it would dry quicker?
23:51 rangi              tcohen++
23:41 * druthb           is gonna head to bed early.  didn't get everything done, but that's okay.
23:30 * jcamins_away     goes away to really make pizza now.
23:30 jcamins_away       Thanks.
23:30 Space_Librarian    use that
23:30 Space_Librarian    so 500 is 1/4
23:29 jcamins_away       So I'm trying to figure out, 350, 500, or a different amount?
23:28 jcamins_away       I've decided to make a small batch.
23:28 jcamins_away       Usually I use ~2kg.
23:28 jcamins_away       That depends how much flour goes into it. ;)
23:28 Space_Librarian    how much dough are you making?
23:26 * jcamins_away     comes back with a quick question- how much flour should he use?
23:24 * jcamins_away     goes to make pizza.
23:24 jcamins_away       I'll tell myself it's okay because I probably wasn't going to accomplish anything before 8 anyway.
23:22 Space_Librarian    ;)
23:22 Space_Librarian    Always a pleasure to be the devil on the shoulder.
23:22 jcamins_away       I'll just make a small batch, though.
23:22 * druthb           blames Space_Librarian.
23:22 jcamins_away       Space_Librarian made me do it.
23:21 jcamins_away       I'm having pizza.
23:21 jcamins_away       That's it.
23:21 jcamins_away       That was the idea!
23:21 jcamins_away       Aaaarrrrgghhhh!!!
23:21 druthb             spicy indian?
23:21 jcamins_away       Only problem: I don't want any of the good ideas I had, just the naughty one.
23:21 Space_Librarian    pizza
23:21 jcamins_away       So I have to come up with dinner.
23:21 druthb             oooo
23:20 jcamins_away       We're good. Shari's off ushering, so I'm solo for dinner tonight.
23:20 druthb             how you n Shari doin?
23:19 jcamins_away       Good!
23:19 druthb             oodles better
23:19 jcamins_away       How are you feeling?
23:19 jcamins_away       Hi, druthb!
23:19 * druthb           waves to jcamins_away
23:12 * jcamins_away     sends wizzyrea a text to tell her to add lemon juice to her dal.
23:07 jcamins_away       Hm. Is wizzyrea still around?
22:50 Judit              morning
22:49 Space_Librarian    nom
22:45 * druthb           is being bad right now.  Eating a lovely stromboli.
22:40 bg                 70 everyday of the year
22:40 bg                 cause I always brag about the great weather here
22:40 druthb             lol
22:40 wahanui            bg: I forgot bg
22:40 bg                 forget bg
22:39 wahanui            i think bg is showing off
22:39 druthb             bg?
22:39 druthb             hi, bg!
22:39 bg                 heya druthb
22:38 rangi              busy, but good
22:32 druthb             how's things?
22:30 * druthb           nibbles carefully
22:30 * Space_Librarian_ gives druthb some cake
22:29 druthb             :D  Hi, Space_Librarian_!
22:29 Space_Librarian_   hey druthb! :)
22:29 druthb             hi, rangi!
22:29 rangi              heya druthb :)
22:29 druthb             o/
22:14 rangi              http://www.kapiticoastlibraries.govt.nz/Spydus.php
22:14 rangi              LAME
21:53 rangi              cya jcamins_away
21:52 jcamins            Good night, #koha
21:52 jcamins            Woohoo! I got through the Benoit le Court bound-with (beautiful binding, hideous cataloging).
21:48 huginn`            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6638 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Columns misaligned on serials claims
21:48 jenkins_koha       oleonard: Fix for Bug 6638, Columns misaligned on serials claims
21:48 jenkins_koha       Project Koha_master build #341: SUCCESS in 43 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/341/
21:39 huginn`            New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6641] Specially crafted URL can allow unauthorized download of MARC files from staff client <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6641>
21:36 wizzyrea           so many!
21:36 sekjal             rangi:  wehoo!
21:27 huginn`            New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6643] Able to download patron card batches as an unauthorized user <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6643>
21:19 rangi              147 committers now
21:15 huginn`            New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6642] Able to download label batches as an unauthorized user <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6642>
21:04 jenkins_koha       Starting build 341 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED)
20:59 rangi              night cait
20:59 cait               night #koha
20:59 cait               bed time
20:56 wizzyrea           k
20:56 cait               and you can add the chair meeting thing
20:56 cait               ok
20:56 wizzyrea           and we can delete one of them
20:56 wizzyrea           i'll edit mine to reflect yours
20:56 wizzyrea           wanna keep yours or mine?
20:56 wizzyrea           hmm
20:55 wizzyrea           look at what kind of monsters I put >.>
20:55 cait               hm me too
20:55 wizzyrea           I made it
20:55 wizzyrea           oh I think I beat you
20:55 huginn`            New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 6638, Columns misaligned on serials claims <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9c339d466e73763f0fbd08b00efc9ab0a3ed01f3>
20:54 rangi              yep
20:54 cait               20?
20:52 cait               xp?
20:52 rangi              and chair an irc meeting
20:52 rangi              oh yes, add that
20:51 cait               what about attend an irc meeting?
20:51 cait               not really :( - typo
20:50 cait               ;)
20:50 * cait             is jealous :(
20:50 rangi              ohh
20:50 wizzyrea           I became a knight at level 2, also
20:50 wizzyrea           oh cool!
20:50 rangi              so, did you notice i made you guys adventurers and henchlings, means you can add new adventures to the list
20:46 * jcamins          likes dal so much he treats it like a stew. :)
20:46 jcamins            Huh. There's a novel idea.
20:46 wizzyrea           we'll put it on quinoa ;)
20:46 wizzyrea           lol
20:46 * jcamins          has talked himself into making another dal.
20:45 wizzyrea           yay!
20:45 jcamins            Sure.
20:45 wizzyrea           pm me your recipe?
20:45 jcamins            5 minutes of work, 25 minutes of waiting, delicious dal for dinner. :)
20:45 wizzyrea           good pt, I have lentils
20:45 jcamins            In that case, have a dal.
20:45 wizzyrea           hmm no
20:45 wizzyrea           lots of quinoa tho
20:45 jcamins            Did you have a dal earlier this week?
20:45 wizzyrea           heh, yea
20:45 jcamins            That's problematic.
20:45 jcamins            Hm.
20:45 jcamins            Ah.
20:44 wizzyrea           we've been trying to avoid pasta and rice :/
20:44 jcamins            Yes.
20:44 wizzyrea           what, rice?
20:44 jcamins            wizzyrea: is that what you're having?
20:42 jcamins            Yes, rice it is, I suppose.
20:42 jcamins            Oops.
20:42 jcamins            Nice! In the Yale catalog: MDXXXII [1542]
20:41 cait               rice?
20:40 jcamins            Oh, except for not having any couscous.
20:40 jcamins            Hm. That might be a good idea.
20:40 * cait             had planned to do pizza tonight
20:39 cait               coucous with vegetables?
20:39 jcamins            I could do a different variety of pasta, I suppose.
20:39 cait               I was gonna say pasta
20:39 cait               oh
20:39 jcamins            And isn't dal?
20:39 jcamins            And doesn't involve pasta and pesto?
20:39 jcamins            Fast and easy meal that has good leftovers?
20:38 jcamins            It has to be fast, too.
20:38 rhcl               he'd
20:38 rhcl               ah, he's just throw a side of Vichyssoise in there
20:38 jcamins            Dal is out, I had that earlier this week.
20:37 jcamins            It's just me.
20:37 wizzyrea           same here... but what?
20:37 jcamins            cait: something easy.
20:37 jcamins            cait: I don't know.
20:37 cait               hm no, that doesn't sound like a dinner from jared
20:36 rhcl               hotdogs...hamburgers...ketchup
20:36 cait               jcamins: what's for dinner?
20:36 * cait             gets hungry
20:32 * sekjal           wants some guacamole now.
20:31 rhcl               avacados huh? Well, I got tomatoes. 'bout the same, just different colors
20:30 rangi              works for me
20:30 * sekjal           just cheated, and signed-off / QA'ed oleonard's 6638 fix at once
20:30 huginn`            moodaepo: The current temperature in MSU Physics Dept, Mankato, Minnesota is 28.8�C (3:28 PM CDT on July 28, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 26.0�C. Pressure: 29.88 in 1011.7 hPa (Steady).
20:30 moodaepo           @wunder 56001
20:27 cait               ts
20:27 * oleonard         flees
20:26 rangi              http://www.nzonscreen.com/title/singing-in-my-soul-2004  <-- good song
20:26 rangi              cool
20:26 cait               works for me
20:26 cait               checking
20:25 rangi              or is it geographical restrictions
20:25 rangi              http://www.nzonscreen.com/title/sweet-lovers-1988
20:25 rangi              hmm does this work for people
20:25 rangi              hi hilongo :) sorry missed seeing you say hi
20:23 huginn`            New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6638] Columns misaligned on serials claims <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6638>
20:22 sekjal             my wife is trying to grow an avocado tree in her office
20:16 rangi              back
20:10 wizzyrea           that's how we have avocados all year round
20:10 cait               if you keep doing that you could end up with a few of us standing on your doorstep tomorrow ;)
20:10 wizzyrea           avocados are awesome because they don't ripen until they're picked
20:09 * bg               just walked outside to check the weather (per rhcl's suggestion) and realized that I was hungry and I had picked an avocado from the tree a few days ago - just ate it - freaking amazing
20:07 rangi              ok my stop bbiab
20:06 rangi              heh
20:06 jcamins            You know, I was actually joking about them thinking it was July 28.
20:05 cait               wow
20:05 rhcl               sed s/proxify/privoxy
20:05 rangi              and wearing blankets
20:05 wizzyrea           lol oy
20:04 rangi              COS THEY ARE YELLING
20:04 rangi              I can tell
20:04 rangi              they are on the way home
20:04 jcamins            Sshh! Don't tell them. They think it's still July 28. ;)
20:04 cait               wizzyrea++
20:04 rangi              well they haven't slept yet
20:04 hilongo            Hello #koha
20:03 wizzyrea           in the morning?!
20:03 rangi              drunk kids on the bus
20:03 huginn`            wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.  Quote #146 added.
20:03 wizzyrea           @quote add rangi: when I was at brendans house we went to the farmers market and bought lots of almonds which I had to eat on the plane, cos can't bringthem into nz, so I was offering ppl nuts on the plane. cait: makes sense rangi: if its sensible for a crazy nzer to be waving almonds in ur face at 3am, then yes
20:03 rangi              ahh last day of school holidays
20:03 rhcl               exproxy is supposed to be better (in some way?) than proxify
20:02 cait               hehe
20:01 rhcl               exproxy - mostly seamless apparently, I don't remember much about it. I think I must have just done it through Yast or maybe zypper, and then TOR must have done whatever config was necessary.
20:01 rangi              if its sensible for a crazy nzer to be waving almonds in ur face at 3am, then yes
19:59 cait               so far it makes sense
19:58 rangi              so I was offering ppl nuts on the plane
19:58 rangi              which I had to eat on the plane, cos can't bringthem into nz
19:58 rangi              and bought lots of almonds
19:57 rangi              cait: when I was at brendans house we went to the farmers market
19:57 cait               :)
19:57 bg                 :)
19:57 NateC              :D
19:57 * wizzyrea         giggles
19:57 wahanui            I LIKE SPACE!
19:57 cait               natec?
19:57 libsysguy          mind blowingly simple im hoping
19:56 libsysguy          rhcl...how was the setup?
19:56 cait               what did I miss?
19:55 rhcl               I think I'm using TOR w/ ezproxy at home.
19:55 wizzyrea           that makes me laugh every time
19:54 bg                 :)
19:54 wahanui            I LIKE ALMONDS! HAVE SOME NUTS!
19:54 bg                 rangi?
19:53 cait               morning rangi
19:53 libsysguy          ^^
19:53 wizzyrea           mornin there
19:53 rangi              morning
19:52 libsysguy          i was just wondering how hard the setup would be
19:52 libsysguy          i know this probably isn't the place but is anybody using shiboleth and ezproxy together
19:50 libsysguy          bg's bed and breakfast :p
19:50 bg                 yeah once it gets to be north america's turn to host again - I'll offer up hosting KohaCon here
19:47 libsysguy          like from the incredibles?!?!
19:46 cait               i thought it was somewhere in atlantis
19:46 cait               oh
19:46 wizzyrea           mua hahahahahaha
19:46 oleonard           ...somewhere in the south seas.
19:46 oleonard           Sure libsysguy, it's in the belly of an extinct volcano.
19:46 libsysguy          so does bywater have a central office?
19:46 huginn`            JesseM: The current temperature in Brewer Stratford Marina, Stratford, Connecticut is 25.5�C (3:45 PM EDT on July 28, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 17.0�C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016.1 hPa (Steady).
19:46 JesseM             @wunder 06614
19:46 jcamins            That's not too bad. :)
19:46 huginn`            jcamins: The current temperature in Middle Village, Queens, New York is 28.3�C (3:45 PM EDT on July 28, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 18.0�C. Pressure: 29.99 in 1015.5 hPa (Falling).
19:46 jcamins            @wunder 11375
19:45 libsysguy          yeah...its hot here
19:44 huginn`            libsysguy: The current temperature in The Ridge at the Woods, Tyler, Texas is 36.7�C (2:40 PM CDT on July 28, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 34%. Dew Point: 18.0�C. Pressure: 29.87 in 1011.4 hPa (Falling).
19:44 libsysguy          @wunder 75707
19:44 cait               we have rain and I like it :)
19:44 huginn`            wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 37.6�C (2:44 PM CDT on July 28, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 39%. Dew Point: 21.0�C. Pressure: 29.79 in 1008.7 hPa (Rising).  Excessive heat warning in effect until 7 PM CDT this evening... 
19:44 wizzyrea           @wunder lawrence ks
19:44 * wizzyrea         does not have the best weather
19:44 rhcl               but that's also 294.85�Kelvin which doesn't sound as goood
19:44 cait               I think it's hard not to be confronted with english and french in school here
19:43 * libsysguy        votes the next KohaCon meetup should be at bg's house
19:43 libsysguy          of course bg has the best weather
19:43 rhcl               And of course, whenever I see bg's temps in �C, I always have to plug it into WolframAlfa. which, sure enough, is  71.06�F
19:42 cait               Brooke makes me look up a lot of things, but i was told that is kind of normal
19:42 libsysguy          my girlfriend is from Sweden and all her relatives make fun of me because I ONLY speak english
19:42 cait               i sometimes look up words, but mostly I manage to write without much thinking about it
19:41 cait               don't worry about it
19:41 * libsysguy        blushes
19:41 cait               lol
19:41 libsysguy          exactly
19:40 cait               trying to change the topic? ;)
19:40 * libsysguy        give bg jealous eyes
19:40 bg                 :D
19:40 huginn`            bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 21.7�C (12:39 PM PDT on July 28, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 17.0�C. Pressure: 29.90 in 1012.4 hPa (Steady).
19:40 bg                 @wunder 93109
19:39 libsysguy          oh no no
19:39 rhcl               actually I get tired of seeing that bg always has temps of 70 degrees F and balmy weather. Wish he'd just go outside and check the WX instead of doing it right before my eyes.  :)
19:39 * cait             suddenly worries about how bad her english might be
19:39 * libsysguy        feels the hole getting deeper
19:39 cait               yes...
19:39 libsysguy          like a software translator
19:39 cait               um
19:39 * libsysguy        tries to word that to not sound like a jerk
19:38 libsysguy          so cait do you speak english or do you use a translator?
19:38 huginn`            oleonard: The current temperature in Cheyenne, Wyoming is 26.3�C (1:38 PM MDT on July 28, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 28%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1021.9 hPa (Rising).
19:38 oleonard           @wunder 82002
19:38 cait               http://maps.google.de/maps?q=konstanz&hl=de&sll=51.151786,10.415039&sspn=16.480969,31.376953&t=h&z=11
19:37 libsysguy          heh thats true i never thought about that
19:37 jcamins            libsysguy: if you hang around #koha long enough, you'll know where everyone is based on their queries for the weather. ;)
19:37 cait               Konstanz, Germany
19:36 libsysguy          cait where are you?
19:36 cait               could take a while... but working on it ;)
19:36 oleonard           As soon as you host KohaCon cait ;)
19:35 rhcl               I should, for sure.
19:35 cait               you have to come and visit ;)
19:35 wahanui            druthb was last seen on #koha 6 hours, 6 minutes and 14 seconds ago, saying: hi libsysguy! [Thu Jul 28 13:28:53 2011]
19:35 libsysguy          seen druthb
19:34 rhcl               yep, I suppose
19:34 jcamins            rhcl: the advantage of having history. :P
19:34 wizzyrea           everywhere :P
19:34 rhcl               Europe seems to have lots of cool stuff that is still being (re)discovered
19:33 cait               "In the local vernacular, they have fanciful names such as "Schrazelloch"  ("goblin hole") or "Alraunenhöhle" ("mandrake cave"). They were  supposedly built by elves, and legend has it that gnomes lived inside."
19:33 cait               rhcl: I am sorry to disappoint you - but hearing of it for the first time
19:29 rhcl               http://abcnews.go.com/International/hideouts-sacred-spaces-experts-baffled-mysterious-underground-chambers/story?id=14136379
19:29 rhcl               cait: I was reading something quite interesting today. Do you have any Schrazellochs under your house?
19:26 adnc               hi
19:26 cait               hallo adnc :)
19:22 adnc               huhu koha
19:21 cait               i am really not sure how this is going to work - so wait until I see code ;)
19:20 jcamins            cait: now we wait while sekjal makes it a reality. :)
19:19 cait               ok?
19:14 jcamins            Yes!
19:14 sekjal             we do need to divorce the semantics of the frameworks from the presentation
19:12 jcamins            And _then_ add them.
19:12 jcamins            sekjal: or, even better, change the way frameworks work so that you don't have to add the fields to each one.
19:12 cait               I really have not looked into rda yet
19:12 cait               and perhaps add some xslt and indexing...
19:11 sekjal             so we just need to add the RDA fields to a framework
19:02 talljoy            ok  thx
18:58 cait               yep, something like that
18:57 jcamins            However, if the record is then edited, they're all stripped out.
18:57 jcamins            The RDA fields are imported.
18:57 jcamins            Actually, no, that's not true.
18:57 jcamins            Minus all the RDA fields.
18:57 jcamins            In that case, yes. :)
18:57 talljoy            yes i know
18:57 jcamins            talljoy: well, RDA records at present *are* MARC records.
18:56 talljoy            and imports as usual?
18:56 talljoy            so it turns it into a marc record?
18:56 cait               oleonard: hehe
18:56 jcamins            talljoy: nothing. All the RDA fields are stripped out.
18:56 cait               :)
18:56 cait               not really
18:56 * oleonard         suspects a rift in the space-time continuum.
18:56 cait               it explodes
18:56 talljoy            can it be done?
18:56 talljoy            what happens to an rda record being imported into Koha
18:55 * talljoy          dodges tomatoes
18:55 talljoy            rda question
18:53 wizzyrea           that sounds like an awesome twilight zone
18:53 wizzyrea           lol
18:53 oleonard           It sounds like a Twilight Zone episode: they built a machine to let you see into the past, but all it will show you is your most embarrassing moments.
18:52 wizzyrea           as it takes longer for your brain to process stuff.
18:52 wizzyrea           well and your 'now' becomes even more confused
18:52 wizzyrea           precisely!
18:52 jcamins            wizzyrea: also, depending on how much you've had to drink, you may be seeing even further into the past. :)
18:38 * cait             bookmarks
18:37 wizzyrea           ^ kind of blew my mind, in a happy way.
18:37 wizzyrea           cait: http://www.npr.org/blogs/13.7/2011/07/26/138695074/where-is-now-the-paradox-of-the-present?sc=fb&cc=fp
18:32 cait               that needs some work and unit tests
18:31 cait               ok
18:31 cait               hehe
18:31 jcamins            cait: it can move you forward in time one nanosecond every nanosecond.
18:31 cait               mostly cloudy?
18:31 huginn`            cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 17.1�C (8:30 PM CEST on July 28, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1017.8 hPa (Steady).
18:31 cait               @wunder Konstanz
18:31 cait               how far are we with the development for the time machine?
18:30 cait               ok
18:30 jcamins            cait: yes.
18:29 cait               right?
18:29 cait               jcamins: so we need dom
18:29 * cait             mumbles
18:27 wizzyrea           where special and awesome are meant in the best possible way
18:27 * jcamins          agrees.
18:27 * wizzyrea         is convinced that it takes a special and awesome kind of crazy to do RM
18:24 oleonard           Still doesn't make me want to be RM, that's for sure
18:23 wizzyrea           of course he does like 3 RM things and he's way ahead again :P
18:22 wizzyrea           oooo only 5 behind rangi!
18:22 jcamins            cait: it couldn't work without dom indexing.
18:21 cait               without dom indexing?
18:21 cait               jcamins: so how could it work?
18:21 cait               oh no xp for me
18:21 cait               I don't remmeber
18:21 cait               hm have I helped someone on irc today?
18:20 jcamins            s/great/neat/
18:19 wizzyrea           not sure there's anything that's great about it
18:19 cait               she can earn xp removing it :P
18:19 jcamins            wizzyrea: what's great about that comment?
18:19 cait               yes... hm.
18:19 cait               in the same record
18:19 jcamins            Just that there was a field with relatorcode=printer and a field (possibly a different one) with name=plantin.
18:18 cait               hm
18:18 wizzyrea           neat!
18:18 jcamins            Yes, but we wouldn't be sure that Plantin was the publisher.
18:18 cait               relatorcode=printer name=platin
18:18 cait               why?
18:18 cait               hm
18:17 jcamins            Yeah, that's how it would work, but that would also find printer=someone publisher=platin
18:17 oleonard           wizzyrea: http://koha-community.org/koha-3-4-2/comment-page-1/#comment-3891
18:16 cait               yes, that too
18:16 jcamins            That would be even better, but that's not really feasible.
18:16 cait               i think at the moment you would have to combine an index on the relator code and the main field, right?
18:16 jcamins            No, they made the entire indexing configuration available.
18:15 cait               with solr..
18:15 cait               i think biblibre did something like htat
18:15 cait               yes
18:11 jcamins            And also about how it might be nice if the list of possible search indexes in dropdowns were configurable in the staff client.
18:10 jcamins            I was just thinking how nice it would be to be able to search for printer=plantin (for example).
18:09 cait               perhaps not all of them, would have to look how cataloging in  union catalog works
18:09 cait               I think union catalog supports at least some of them
18:08 cait               not yes not no
18:03 jcamins            Do your libraries use relator terms?
18:03 jcamins            Now that you're here, I have a question for you:
18:03 cait               I escaped a big bad rain cloud
18:02 cait               thx :)
18:02 jcamins            cait: welcome back.
17:44 jcamins            Here's a related question: can anyone think of any reason not to move the list of valid search prefixes currently hardcoded into C4::Search into the database?
17:41 jcamins            Yet.
17:41 jcamins            In Koha.
17:41 jcamins            Is anyone else using relator terms?
16:18 wizzyrea           :)
16:18 libsysguy          good thing i didn't mess with it lol
16:18 libsysguy          dang it i was looking at printinvoice
16:18 wizzyrea           printfeercpt
16:18 wizzyrea           moremember-brief
16:18 wizzyrea           moremember-receipt
16:17 wizzyrea           moremember-print
16:13 wizzyrea           I think it's in members
16:13 libsysguy          off the top of anyones head...what files would i edit to change the print output for print slips
16:07 wizzyrea           [off] but the fact that I can download patron card batches, that's very bad.
16:06 wizzyrea           again, what is exposed not such a big deal
16:05 wizzyrea           in fact, I know it won't work, DNS
16:05 wizzyrea           (that link may not work, firewall)
16:04 wizzyrea           http://koha-staff.lan.nekls.org/cgi-bin/koha/labels/label-create-pdf.pl?batch_id=1&template_id=1&layout_id=17&start_label=1 as an example
16:04 wizzyrea           ^^ could be bad
16:04 wizzyrea           which makes me wonder about patron cards
16:04 wizzyrea           doh
16:03 wizzyrea           oh yea label batches can be downloaded the same way, without auth
16:02 wizzyrea           (I think, actually, that would be a great way to make the marc download work)
16:02 wizzyrea           and I like how that works, too.
16:01 wizzyrea           framework export requires auth
16:01 oleonard           Just wondering if someone has already tried to solve this problem in another context
16:01 wizzyrea           export frameworks?
16:00 wizzyrea           only import
16:00 wizzyrea           i guess there isn't a patron export
16:00 Brooke             ttfn
15:59 wizzyrea           eek
15:59 wizzyrea           or patron export
15:59 wizzyrea           maybe?
15:59 wizzyrea           label batches
15:59 wizzyrea           well
15:54 oleonard           I wonder if there are similar scripts... where there is no authentication because a template is not used.
15:51 huginn`            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6641 major, P5, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , Specially crafted URL can allow unauthorized download of MARC files from staff client
15:51 wizzyrea           bug 6641
15:37 jcamins            wizzyrea: oh, no, definitely not then.
15:36 wizzyrea           as it exploits this problem. :P
15:36 wizzyrea           no, I don't think you want it.
15:34 Brooke             it surely has been asked for in past.
15:34 jcamins            wizzyrea: you should contribute that.
15:33 wizzyrea           aside: i have a killer commandline script that pulls out records based on a list of bibnumbers. :P
15:32 wizzyrea           all good points
15:32 jcamins            wizzyrea: and if you don't have opacbaseurl set properly, export would be broken.
15:32 wizzyrea           oh that's true
15:32 jcamins            wizzyrea: there could be records that don't show up in the OPAC.
15:31 jcamins            wizzyrea: no, I don't think so.
15:31 oleonard           Man I've known some cross reference librarians.
15:31 Brooke             cross references make for cross readers.
15:30 wizzyrea           and nix the staff download period.
15:30 wizzyrea           what do you think about a fix to that where it redirects you to the download capability of the OPAC
15:25 jcamins            I agree.
15:25 wizzyrea           even if it's trivial
15:25 wizzyrea           well it's my opinion that anything with a staff. url should be protected by a login.
15:23 jcamins            IMO, yes.
15:23 wizzyrea           so, bug worthy?
15:21 jcamins            With that unsecured link, there's no way to prevent a DOS (though, of course, one could DOS the system just be requesting a billion copies of the login page).
15:20 wizzyrea           right
15:20 jcamins            wizzyrea: on a hypothetical set-up, where people are concerned about this, the staff client could be separated from the OPAC.
15:19 wizzyrea           and since most people run the opac and the staff client on the same server
15:19 wizzyrea           well you could say that about the marc download feature at all
15:18 jcamins            wizzyrea: it's a vector for a DOS on the staff client.
15:18 wizzyrea           but, it makes me feel weird that it's a staff URL with no login
15:17 wizzyrea           i'm not sure there's any explicit *harm* in it
15:17 wizzyrea           right
15:16 jcamins            You can do the same on the OPAC side, if you want the link to work for the public.
15:16 jcamins            wizzyrea: I think it's a problem.
15:13 wizzyrea           i mean, you don't have to log in to get that, but I'm not sure it matters.
15:12 wizzyrea           brooke++ oleonard++
15:12 wizzyrea           and you guys crack me up
15:12 wizzyrea           is there any kind of security issue there?
15:11 jcamins            Yes.
15:11 oleonard           Sneaky.
15:11 wizzyrea           can you get a marc file if you click on that
15:11 wizzyrea           http://staff.nexpresslibrary.org/cgi-bin/koha/catalogue/export.pl?format=utf8&op=export&bib=4224
15:11 oleonard           tangent
15:11 oleonard           aside
15:11 oleonard           clarifying question
15:10 Brooke             answer! I hope they match :D
15:10 wizzyrea           question
15:03 Brooke             0/
14:51 libsysguy          haha ok thanks sekjal
14:50 Brooke             if you figure out how to congeal coherency, I desperately need the receipt.
14:50 sekjal             need to congeal the rest into something coherent
14:49 sekjal             I've written a follow up patch to implement some of it
14:49 sekjal             so, feedback is from them
14:49 sekjal             libsysguy:  we've got one of other partners testing it on their live OPAC
14:48 * Brooke           grins.
14:48 libsysguy          uh oh
14:48 * wizzyrea         giggles
14:48 sekjal             libsysguy:  ah, yes, I've got a bit of feedback for that I don't think I've posted yet
14:47 huginn`            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5079 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, tdavis, ASSIGNED , Make display of shelving location and call number in XSLT results controlled by sysprefs
14:47 libsysguy          sekjal if you could take a look at bug 5079 before august 15th I'd owe you more than I already do
14:47 jcamins            It's not quite as fun as the wizzyrea-summoning charm, though. Something about saying wizzyrea three times fast is very entertaining.
14:46 Brooke             bye doll
14:46 libsysguy          later kf
14:46 kf                 ok, time to leave - bye all :)
14:46 libsysguy          lol i think that just means there is progress
14:46 kf                 hehe
14:46 sekjal             (and apologies to all for the backlog... working on it)
14:46 jcamins            Uh-oh... sekjal has revealed the secret sekjal-summoning charm! Now he'll never get any rest!
14:45 Brooke             sekjal++
14:45 sekjal             I'm perfectly okay with the community driving my QA priorities
14:45 wizzyrea           because sekjal is awesome like that
14:45 sekjal             if you bring up the bug number in chat and ask me to look at it, I'll usually oblige
14:44 Brooke             the nerve of those people.
14:44 Brooke             Inorite!?
14:44 libsysguy          its almost like sekjal has a fulltime job or something
14:44 wizzyrea           no grr ing at sekjal
14:44 Brooke             hush, he's doing Important Stuff :P
14:44 libsysguy          grr sekjal :p
14:43 wizzyrea           you wait for sekjal :)
14:43 libsysguy          after a patch gets signed off that i made...what do I do with it?
14:43 Brooke             0/
14:41 wizzyrea           what address at bywater would be best to contact for people wanting to cosponsor something?
14:41 sekjal             wizzyrea?
14:41 wizzyrea           hey sekjal
14:41 Brooke             at least I brought back proper syrup from the North.
14:41 * Brooke           drools at the thought of syrup, cheese, and ice cream.
14:40 sekjal             nengard's training librarians in VT today
14:37 wizzyrea           nengard about?
14:36 libsysguy          that way at least we would know when something needed sponsored
14:36 libsysguy          i don't think it would be a bad thing wizzyrea
14:36 Brooke             wizzyrea++
14:35 wizzyrea           like the signoffs
14:35 wizzyrea           in IRC
14:35 wizzyrea           would it be cool or crappy to post bugs that status change to 'seeking cosponsors' in bugzilla?
14:34 jwagner            I have silly friends who post silly links on Facebook.....
14:34 wizzyrea           hey bot owners
14:33 wizzyrea           that is silly
14:33 wizzyrea           hehehe
14:32 jwagner            Heh.  Here's a feature to build into Koha:  http://bradmatthies.wordpress.com/2011/07/22/schrodingers-bookdrop/
14:13 kf                 I see that now
14:13 kf                 ah, no only acq
14:12 oleonard           I don't think Colin is working on a patch for everything
14:12 kf                 so we could kill it once the patch from colin is in?
14:12 kf                 ah
14:12 oleonard           CGIselectborrower is just the variable name as used in circulation.tt. Circulation.pl uses CGI::scrolling_list to create it
14:11 kf                 CGIselectborrower is the same?
14:10 kf                 hm it's signed off
14:10 kf                 I thought we got rid of that
14:10 kf                 oh
14:10 huginn`            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=766 normal, P2, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Use of CGI::scrolling_list prevents customization in template
14:10 oleonard           kf, it's one of the oldest ones: Bug 766
14:09 kf                 make an enh bug :)
14:09 oleonard           Karma to whoever replaces CGIselectborrower in circulation.tt with real template logic.
14:09 sekjal             it would come after allowing arbitrary metadata formats for patron info
14:08 jcamins            sekjal: not sure I'd get behind that proposal.
14:08 jcamins            sekjal: that's crazy all right.
14:08 oleonard           (to wizzyrea's question)
14:08 oleonard           I don't know about that... I would say it should use the same search mechanism, but I think it's appropriate to have an abbreviated display here
14:07 sekjal             crazy idea:  Zebra index for borrowers
14:07 wizzyrea           I guess that's dev that nekls is working on
14:07 wizzyrea           actually, I was wondering about that, shouldn't that search bring back the same search that searching for patrons does?
14:06 oleonard           CGIselectborrower--
14:04 wizzyrea           hi brooke :)
14:04 Brooke             kia ora
14:04 wizzyrea           in this data city, state are in the city field
14:04 wizzyrea           to address
14:04 wizzyrea           I also added the city
14:03 wizzyrea           bad data entry, the whole 9 yards
14:03 wizzyrea           of course this is a great example because it's got entries with partial data
14:03 kf                 I agree
14:02 oleonard           I think having some space after the name helps readability
14:02 kf                 I think I would kill the period
14:02 kf                 hm
14:02 wizzyrea           well appropriate punctuation all round
14:01 wizzyrea           and a priod after the name
14:01 wizzyrea           yea
14:01 oleonard           -- instead of ... ?
14:01 wizzyrea           mornin
14:01 jcamins            Good morning, #koha
14:01 wizzyrea           gr
14:01 jcamins_away       misleading_messages_about_retirement_accounts--
14:01 wizzyrea           http://screencast.com/t/ZGrArkdnq
14:00 wizzyrea           i have something started sec for screenshot
14:00 wizzyrea           bitchin. well, getting rid of the ellipsis is one way
13:59 oleonard           Not sure how you'd pretty it up though
13:59 oleonard           I object neither to adding branch code nor to prettying it up
13:59 kf                 ah
13:59 wizzyrea           this is how it looks now
13:59 kf                 wizzyrea: is that the patron category or the branchcode?
13:58 wizzyrea           there
13:58 wizzyrea           http://screencast.com/t/xGVPSfBIBF
13:58 oleonard           But I know what you mean.
13:58 wizzyrea           no
13:58 wizzyrea           dr
13:58 oleonard           I think that's not the screenshot you meant?
13:58 wizzyrea           imo
13:58 wizzyrea           also the formatting of that is uuuugly
13:57 wizzyrea           I think it would be pretty helpful
13:57 wizzyrea           but I wonder if that is a universally wanted thing?
13:57 wizzyrea           which is easy enough
13:56 wizzyrea           CKLS was wanting to add the branchcode to that
13:56 wizzyrea           http://screencast.com/t/hQ85UjQwnt
13:56 wizzyrea           well I was looking at circulation.pl, the patron listing that comes up when you do a search like 'a' from "check out"
13:55 oleonard           What's up wizzyrea?
13:54 wizzyrea           wizzyrex
13:54 wizzyrea           that has a certain ring to it
13:54 sekjal             wizzyrea Rex?
13:53 wizzyrea           why yes, I do have a 3 year old, why do you ask?
13:53 oleonard           Now if I was my 4 year old I would start giggle and jump out and say Boo
13:53 wizzyrea           (because you know I can't see anything if it's not moving)
13:53 wizzyrea           has anybody seen owen? he's gone missing.
13:53 kf                 hi liz
13:53 * oleonard         stands very still
13:53 wizzyrea           heya sekjal :)
13:53 sekjal             morning, wizzyrea!
13:53 wizzyrea           oleonard, about?
13:52 wizzyrea           good morning
13:50 libsysguy          yeah no lie...im working with Coral and they only use svn :'(
13:50 sekjal             git++
13:49 libsysguy          *slow clap* sekjal++
13:49 kf                 sekjal++
13:48 sekjal             a merge creates a new commit that brings the branches together
13:48 sekjal             the rebase snips off all the additional commits on a branch, and reapplies them after the HEAD of the target branch
13:48 sekjal             rebase: http://aprescott.com/images/diagrams/simple-git-rebase/simple-git-rebase-5.png
13:47 sekjal             merge:  http://aprescott.com/images/diagrams/simple-git-rebase/simple-git-rebase-6.png
13:46 sekjal             hmmm
13:46 sekjal             a graphic would be really handy here....
13:46 sekjal             it'll screw up all the people who pulled from it
13:46 sekjal             so, if you're working on a public branch, don't rebase it
13:46 sekjal             rebases alter the commit history; merges do not
13:45 libsysguy          good question
13:45 oleonard           What's the difference between a merge and a rebase?
13:45 sekjal             and there would of course be the problem of merge conflicts, which you'd have to solve manually
13:45 sekjal             merge is probably better, since you're dealing with remotes
13:44 sekjal             libsysguy:  you can be on a local branch that's based on bug5549, then fetch the changes on master, and either them into your branch, or rebase your branch onto master
13:43 libsysguy          branch
13:43 libsysguy          maybe i was looking at this the wrong way...is there anyway to get the changes that happen in master and still track the bug5549
13:38 libsysguy          because of dependencies :-\
13:36 sekjal             which will result in data loss, likely
13:36 sekjal             yeah, I don't think there is any good way to run on a branch with a ton of database structure changes, then switch back, unless you write 'undo' statements for all the updatedatabase steps
13:36 kf                 because you have to be careful to not loose or alter your data for existing short loans in the system
13:35 kf                 so even on a branch it might be difficult to update
13:35 kf                 sekjal: my thougth was - if you use it and have data for it in the database, you can't pull it out before updating
13:35 sekjal             master should always be "pure" Koha, straight from git.koha-community.org
13:34 libsysguy          ok ill leave it in its own branch
13:34 kf                 lots of similar devs around at the moment for circ
13:34 sekjal             always use a separate branch
13:34 kf                 this will conflict a lot with the short loans I fear
13:34 sekjal             libsysguy:  never merge stuff into master
13:34 kf                 we are testing some circ enhancmenets from biblibre n
13:33 huginn`            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5549 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED , Hourly Loans
13:33 libsysguy          crap...
13:33 kf                 bug 5549
13:33 libsysguy          yeah it is
13:33 kf                 like when the database structure is changed
13:33 libsysguy          its bugg 5549
13:33 kf                 and I think short loans are pretty complicated change - if there are a lot of changes to the feature before it gets in you might get trouble
13:33 libsysguy          but probably not until 3.6
13:33 libsysguy          the likelihood is high
13:32 kf                 depends probably if the patch makes it in later or not
13:32 kf                 hm
13:31 libsysguy          (aka master)
13:31 libsysguy          what would be the long term implications of merging an unapproved branch in with our production branch
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13:29 libsysguy          hi druthb :D
13:29 druthb             hi libsysguy!
13:25 libsysguy          hey kf
13:25 kf                 hi libsysguy
13:14 sekjal             morning, kf!
13:13 kf                 morning sekjal :)
12:57 kf                 but it might be the record
12:57 kf                 so I think what she did was alright
12:57 kf                 I was there on the phone while the librarian did attach the items to another record
12:55 kf                 ok, zebrasrv is not running on my test installation - have to wait for my coworker
12:54 kf                 actually that is a really good question
12:54 kf                 perhaps will have to rebuild the marcxml from the items with the sycn job and hide the optionf or them until we update
12:54 paul_p             can you reproduce it on any install ?
12:54 kf                 it's really weird not sure how to solve it
12:53 paul_p             i'm not aware of a problem with attaching item to another record.
12:53 kf                 2 different problems :)
12:53 paul_p             s/forgot/missed/
12:53 paul_p             oups, OK. I forgot to read your last sentence ;-)
12:53 kf                 paul_p: zebra can only index what is in the marcxml. are you aware if there has been a patch for that perhaps?
12:52 kf                 paul_p: my other problem is not a zebra problem
12:52 kf                 hi claire
12:52 kf                 ok
12:51 paul_p             with -v you could have some usefull informations
12:51 paul_p             kf : once you've suspended the cronjob for rebuild_zebra -z
12:51 kf                 ?
12:51 kf                 paul_p: Runing rebuild_zebra - and after that
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12:47 kf                 I am sure it is solved in 3.4.x by removing the items from the xml, but in 3.2.x it looks like a bigger problem
12:46 kf                 the item remains in the marcxml - are you aware if you have a fix for that? or if there has been a problem?
12:46 kf                 I also have a problem with attaching items to another record - the marcxml gets not updated at all
12:45 kf                 so you think the collection problem should be cuased by a corrupted record?
12:42 kf                 ok
12:42 paul_p             * run rebuild_zebra manually with -z and -v to see what happend
12:42 kf                 zebraqueue looks perfect
12:41 paul_p             * look at zebaqueu table so see if the "index" command has been stored
12:41 kf                 ok
12:41 paul_p             (sorry, not on the ML, just here ;-) )
12:41 kf                 I haven't written to the mailing list?
12:41 paul_p             * suspend crontab
12:41 paul_p             usually when something goes wrong with zebra indexing we :
12:40 paul_p             well, throw your question, but I've no idea (seen your mail on ML)
12:40 paul_p             kf, yes, it's a perfect solution !
12:40 kf                 paul_p: do you have a second? I witness some weird things with search and attach items in our instllations
12:39 kf                 I hope this solutioni s ok for you, paul_p
12:24 paul_p             nengard++ too (for acqui-home total hidden)
12:06 kf                 nengard++
11:02 kf                 paul_p: around?
11:01 druthb             nope...sure haven'.  :)
11:01 danmc              well, I hope the long term prospects are good.  I won't bother with asking if you've done any turning lately as I'm sure the answer is no.
10:59 druthb             I ended up losing a lot of blood, too--needed four units to get back up to "okay" to get out of the hospital proper, and to the doctor's recovery facillity.
10:58 danmc              I'm glad everything went well.
10:58 danmc              oh wow.
10:57 druthb             i had a fairly major surgery nine days ago.  So far, the outcomes have been over-the-top great, but the healing process is long.  A nine-hour surgery messes you up for a loooooong time.
10:55 danmc              I didn't know you needed getting better, but here is hoping for progress in the right direction!
10:54 druthb             chugging along.  Getting better all the time, but it's slow going.
10:53 danmc              morning ruth.  how are things?
09:46 kf                 any ideas? help?
09:44 kf                 zebraqueue shoes the title has been indexed by the cronjob
09:44 kf                 this is very confusing!
09:44 kf                 and today items were attached to another title and the items are still shown on the old title in result list
09:44 kf                 one time a collection was changed and is still searchable under the old collection
09:43 kf                 I see that in 2 installations now
09:43 kf                 is there any reason updates on items are not working correctly with zebra?
07:54 kf                 butwanted to make sure before I write a comment on the bug
07:54 kf                 paul_p: yeah, I have thought aobut this
07:53 paul_p             kf : I agree with rangi = the problem with "no updatedatabase for syspref" is also that it's not created until you explicitly save something. It will work, but may cause trouble sometimes (SQL request to see what's the value of the syspref for example)
07:52 kf                 paul_p: we started picking on your feature ;)
07:52 rangi              hi paul_p
07:52 wahanui            bonjour, eythian
07:52 eythian            hello
07:52 paul_p             hi kf, rangi & eythian & al
07:51 eythian            fancy that
07:51 * eythian          finds invalid MARC that looks like it's come from an official source
07:49 rangi              yup
07:48 kf                 can I quote you on the bug? :)
07:48 kf                 yes, I think so too
07:48 rangi              the update is good because it tells people a new syspref has been added
07:47 rangi              he is right, the way the code works, if it is in the .pref file, it will get created when changed, but
07:46 kf                 the patch from mason for the "powered by koha" system preference. I think he is right about not necessarily needing an updatedatabase. but not sure if this will cause confusion. sign off without or better add an update?
07:44 kf                 ah
07:44 rangi              yup
07:44 kf                 rangi: around?
07:41 kf                 good morning paul_p
07:35 kf                 morning #koha
07:27 clrh               hello
07:07 wahanui            privet, julian
07:07 julian             hello
07:02 lds                hello
06:40 wahanui            privet, francharb
06:40 francharb          hello
06:21 cait               comment :)
06:21 eythian            what'd I do?
06:21 cait               eythian++
06:17 cait               hi Space_Librarian_ :)
06:16 Space_Librarian_   morning cait
06:15 cait               morning #koha
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04:16 jenkins_koha       * robin: Bug 6540 - [SIGNED-OFF] fix some command-line args issues
04:16 jenkins_koha       * magnus: Bug 6540 - Add config file as command line option for koha-create
04:16 huginn`            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6540 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, magnus, ASSIGNED , Add more options to koha-create
04:16 jenkins_koha       * magnus: Bug 6540 - Add defaultsql command line option
04:16 jenkins_koha       * magnus: Bug 6540 - Followup patch adding command line options
04:16 jenkins_koha       * magnus: Bug 6540 - Make ZEBRA_MARC_FORMAT and ZEBRA_LANGUAGE configurable for koha-create
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03:36 Amit_Gupta         good morning koha ;)
03:36 Amit_Gupta         heya chris ;)
03:02 Brooke             what, no cricket or rugby tix under gift ideas? Psha!
03:01 Judit              :)
03:01 Judit              http://www.sysadminday.com/
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02:48 huginn`            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6350 trivial, P5, ---, nengard, NEW , Bug for tracking updates to the history file
02:48 huginn`            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4873 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, NEW , Debian packaging should avoid /var/run and /var/lock in the package
02:48 jenkins_koha       * Chris Cormack: Bug 6350: History update
02:48 jenkins_koha       * John.Seymour: Bug 4873 - Ensure that the required directories exist on init
02:48 jenkins_koha       Project Koha_master build #339: ABORTED in 28 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/339/
02:34 huginn`            New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6540 - [SIGNED-OFF] fix some command-line args issues <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e7cf2223e06d9aea07f2dce6cd6481cbc2ae0d9d> / Bug 6540 - Add config file as command line option for koha-create <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b66c860d5df65c185279741219b88bc08e7de524> / Bug 6540 - Add defaultsql command line option <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/
02:27 eythian            I dunno. I'd just start somewhere simple until you work out the best ways of doing things
02:26 Judit              like what you think is important, etc
02:26 eythian            I don't really have any at the moment :)
02:26 Judit              any ideas are welcome :)
02:26 eythian            ok
02:25 Judit              ok, i will play a bit around with it, let you know the results
02:25 eythian            although, they can be added to over time
02:24 eythian            yeah
02:23 Judit              so testing the very basics
02:22 eythian            but if it uses known states, that shouldn't be too bad
02:22 eythian            the problem with selenium style tests in koha is that there are so many config options that can cause changed behaviour
02:21 eythian            or checking out an item changes its status, and so on
02:21 eythian            e.g. verifying that edits update things correctly
02:21 eythian            Some things will definitely be able to use it
02:21 eythian            it's hard to say
02:21 Judit              is there any point to try to create a selenium test for koha
02:20 eythian            and is then automatible
02:20 eythian            selenium is more things like "perform this action, ensure that this is the result"
02:19 Judit              i have never used selenium before
02:19 eythian            not really
02:19 jenkins_koha       Starting build 339 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #335 2 j 22 h ago)
02:19 Judit              eythian: this testing plan will not really work with  selenium, right?
02:18 rangi              excellent ibeardslee
02:14 huginn`            New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6350: History update <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=614fdc2f985c32ae247d9df74b1643b5e17e32af> / Bug 4873 - Ensure that the required directories exist on init <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fb347c97ac996a5d50559bee62b618ad0542b947>
02:13 Brooke             0/
02:11 eythian            Judit: last updated a couple of months ago, so I'd say it's still pretty close.
02:11 ibeardslee         the nzcs presentation went well .. mentioned how receptive the #koha people were to the students in the Academy
02:10 Judit              is this still a kinda valid plan?
02:10 Judit              http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Testing_Plan
02:08 eythian            hi Judit
01:59 phlunk3            lo Judit
01:58 Judit              hi
01:45 rangi              back
00:44 huginn`            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6632 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , [security] XXS on list name (on admin part)
00:44 jenkins_koha       semarie-koha: Bug 6632 [Signed Off] add html filter to prevent XSS
00:44 jenkins_koha       Project Koha_3.4.x build #21: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 h 9 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.4.x/21/
00:30 huginn`            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6623 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Nicer style for "clear screen" button
00:30 huginn`            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6547 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED , Add ids to divs in opac-reserve.tt
00:30 jenkins_koha       * oleonard: [SIGNED-OFF} Fix for Bug 6623 - Nicer style for "clear screen" button
00:30 jenkins_koha       * ian.walls: Bug 6547: Add id attributes to messages in opac-reserve.tt
00:30 jenkins_koha       Project Koha_master build #338: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 h 11 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/338/