Time Nick Message 01:02 phlunk3 lo, was here the other day and rangi suggested I try a package install on ubuntu, can anyone point me to where the packages to do this can be found? I might suck at using the koha site :P 01:05 chilts phlunk3: maybe here -> http://debian.koha-community.org/ 01:34 pastebot "Phlunk3" at 202.49.168.172 pasted "Installation issue." (7 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/936 01:34 phlunk3 ^^ anyone knows what my issue might be? 01:46 eythian phlunk3: I assume that's not attempting a package install? 01:46 eythian but basically, it means you don't have the zoom packages. 01:47 eythian libnet-z3950-perl on Debian, I think. 01:47 phlunk3 tx eythian 01:48 phlunk3 Can't locate XML/Simple.pm in <-- any idea what is needed for this? 01:48 eythian libxml-simple-perl most likely 01:48 eythian I wonder where we're using that, we shouldn't be. 01:51 eythian huh, all over the place apparently. 01:51 eythian That's not a good thing. 01:52 eythian actually, a lot of the places where it's "use"d don't actually appear to do anything with it. 01:52 phlunk3 lol 01:53 eythian maybe one day when I'm bored, I'll make a start on removing it, it's not a good module. 01:56 pastebot "phlunk3" at 203.89.166.247 pasted "Do I need to install all these perl items?" (59 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/937 01:58 eythian yes. 01:58 eythian this is why the packages are good, they do all that for you. 02:01 eythian also, some of those dependencies don't have debian packages (although most do.) You can either install them from cpan, or use the packages that are in the debian.koha-community.org repo. 02:01 eythian Or use dh-make-perl to make your own. 02:02 phlunk3 yeah I wasnt too sure how to use ur debian packages on ubuntu, I am just learning about the whole package installation thing since starting at this job haha, my last employer had lots of server admins who would slap me for trying to install things ;) 02:03 eythian ah right :) 02:03 phlunk3 whats dh-make-perl used for? 02:03 eythian the packages should work on Ubuntu much the same as on Debian 02:03 eythian there is one possible bug that might happen though, the fix for which was only sent in a couple of days ago, so hasn't gone in yet. 02:03 eythian dh-make-perl lets you take a CPAN Perl module and make a .deb file out of it. 02:11 pastebot "phlunk3" at 203.89.166.247 pasted "more install problems" (17 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/938 02:11 phlunk3 any idea on this? is an attempt using the package installer 02:12 eythian http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.2_on_Debian_Squeeze#Other_packages <-- phlunk3 02:12 Brooke kia ora 02:13 phlunk3 tx eyth 02:13 eythian np 02:13 eythian hi Brooke 02:14 Brooke :) 02:53 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6626] Packages require sudo to work, but it's not a dependency. <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6626> 03:04 phlunk3 okay I am being asked if I want marc21 or unimarc, so I guess I need to go and look at the old server and see what was used there, does anyone know where I can see that info? 03:05 eythian phlunk3: where are you? 03:06 eythian (marc21 is used in most places, but some use unimarc) 03:06 phlunk3 Tauranga, if you mean which city ;) 03:06 eythian oh right. 03:06 eythian then you want marc21 03:06 eythian you coming to the conference tomorrow? 03:06 phlunk3 thanks eyth 03:07 phlunk3 no, I saw there was some usergroup meeting mentioned here a few days ago but havent really used the system so far. 03:07 phlunk3 where is the meeting? 03:07 eythian http://kete.library.org.nz/site/topics/show/216-nz-koha-users-group-meeting <-- phlunk3 03:07 eythian might be a bit too far to go on short notice though. 03:08 eythian especially with half the central NI being snowed out 03:09 phlunk3 yeah definitely, I dont even have a license yet so can't be driving places anyway haha 03:09 eythian that'll be a problem too, yeah 03:11 phlunk3 Im on a page where I choose data sources? page is called "MARC Frameworks: MARC21" would u suggest using/not using any of the optional sources? 03:12 eythian I'd put some in. 03:12 phlunk3 can they be enabled/disabled later? 03:13 eythian They can be edited later. 03:13 eythian I'd put most of it except the sample data itself. 03:13 eythian Unfortunately, it's the kind of thing that just requires a bit of practice to work out. 03:14 phlunk3 thx m8, all done with the install, now to just figure out how to move data from an older version to this one :S 03:15 eythian cool :) 03:15 eythian is the old one Koha, if so, what version? 03:16 phlunk3 3.0.05 03:16 phlunk3 sorry he says thats wrong ;) 03:16 phlunk3 moment Ill check 03:16 phlunk3 3.00.05.003 is the older version 03:17 eythian oh, that's easy then. Just move the database contents over and it should work 03:17 eythian gtg 03:17 phlunk3 yay thx heaps eyth 03:47 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 6622 - Remove closing style tag from staff-global.css <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9db5fa227f0053cb65c3928a60cd5fadb5cf1042> 03:49 jenkins_koha Starting build 335 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 04:33 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #335: SUCCESS in 44 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/335/ 04:33 jenkins_koha oleonard: Fix for Bug 6622 - Remove closing style tag from staff-global.css 04:33 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6622 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Remove closing style tag from staff-global.css 04:56 barves can anyone tell me how to delete items without any barcodes 04:56 barves does koha support delete items by recordnumber which koha geneate automatically 06:17 cait hi #koha 06:34 francharb hello all 06:37 cait hi francharb 06:37 francharb hi cait! 06:38 cait @wunder Konstanz 06:38 huginn` cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 11.7�C (8:35 AM CEST on July 25, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012.1 hPa (Steady). 06:39 barves can some one help me to delete items without any barcodes. does koha support to delete items by record number 06:47 reiveune hello 06:51 julian hello 06:51 wahanui hi, julian 06:51 julian hi wahanui 06:51 wahanui hello, julian 06:59 marcelr hello koha 06:59 lds hello koha 07:08 rangi @wunder wellington nz 07:08 huginn` rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 7.0�C (6:00 PM NZST on July 25, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 1.0�C. Windchill: 1.0�C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Rising). 07:10 rangi see a movie Judit ? 07:11 Judit :) 07:11 Judit yes 07:11 Judit and the sin was hinning all afternoon 07:11 Judit typical 07:11 Judit sun 07:11 rangi heh 07:11 Judit shine 07:12 Judit the embassy was really really nice 07:13 rangi yes it is a great place to watch a movie 07:13 rangi especially as you can take a beer to your seat :) 07:13 Judit the movie was kinda boring but cool 3d 07:13 Judit the first movie i think where it worth making it in 3d 07:14 paul_p hello #koha 07:14 rangi what did u see? 07:15 rangi hi paul_p 07:15 Judit Hp 07:18 rangi brb reading stories 07:19 clrh hello 07:19 wahanui que tal, clrh 07:36 paul_p if you want to smile : http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2011/07/23/how-to-get-a-masive-amount-of-comment-on-your-atricles-cartoon/ ! 08:02 rangi 50 ppl for tomorrow now :) 08:12 sijobl hiya chris 08:12 sijobl 50 ppl for what? 08:13 rangi koha user group thingymajingy in levin 08:13 sijobl woo, cool 08:14 rangi got some from all over the north island, some from the south island, and even a a couple from the west island 08:14 sijobl excellent 08:14 sijobl that's a good turnout 08:14 sijobl at the library? 08:14 * sijobl wonders where there's a 50 person room in levin 08:14 rangi council buildings 08:14 sijobl other than the council or marae 08:15 sijobl or schools 08:15 rangi yup :) 08:15 rangi we have the council chambers for the day 08:23 sijobl it's not as though they were using them for anything useful... 08:24 rangi :) 08:33 * paul_p ignored there was a west island in NZ (is it Australia ? do you consider Australia as an NZ west island ? -kidding, but the question is real- ;-) ) 08:34 rangi its our nickname for australia 08:38 paul_p thx rangi. I travelled to the north island, discovered there was also a south island, and tiny east island. I was afraid to have missed a west island ;-) 08:39 rangi :) 08:39 rangi theres a lot of small inhabited islands around nz, and even more uninhabited ones 08:54 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5725] Batch modifications for Biblios <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5725> 08:59 kf hi #koha 09:00 rangi hi kf 09:00 kf hi rangi 09:01 kf how did your trainign go? 09:01 rangi good 09:01 rangi fast learners 09:01 kf :) 09:01 barves can we get help. i want to delete items without barcodes hw to do that does koha support deleting items by record number 09:01 kf I think you can't use record number for the batch delete functions at the moment 09:02 kf no 09:02 kf I am wrong 09:02 kf you can 09:03 kf you can delete using the item number 09:03 kf check tools > batch item deletion 09:03 kf and you can create a lit of item numbers using the reports tool 09:04 barves ok tx let me check 09:54 rangi @wunder wellington nz 09:54 huginn` rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 7.0�C (9:00 PM NZST on July 25, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 1.0�C. Windchill: 1.0�C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Rising). 09:54 rangi i dont believe that 09:54 kf colder? 09:54 kf @wunder Konstanz 09:54 huginn` kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 16.9�C (11:50 AM CEST on July 25, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011.1 hPa (Steady). 09:54 kf not anormal summer day here too 09:55 rangi http://www.metservice.com/towns-cities/wellington 09:55 rangi 5.3, feels like 0 10:17 Brooke kia ora 10:48 kf hi Brooke 10:48 Brooke 0/ 10:48 Brooke I see you sneaky. 10:48 druthb o/ 10:49 * Brooke taps her foot at druthb. 10:49 druthb wha'? 10:49 Brooke this better be a social call, little miss. 10:49 * kf imagines Brooke as nurse 10:50 druthb since talljoy is not yet here, then yes, it is. 10:50 Brooke yeah you don't want to do that 10:50 Brooke because it'll prolly involve thinking about me like I'm my stupid sister. 10:50 Brooke it's early where Joy is, init? 10:51 druthb not yet 0600, yes 10:52 Brooke so uh 10:52 Brooke your daughter is prolly right. 10:52 * Brooke might be a mite *too* heat tolerant. 10:52 druthb besides, she and I talked yesterday and set a date mid-week to chat and solve the issue she needs mah help on. 10:53 * Brooke nods. 11:01 Brooke 0/ 11:18 Brooke 0/ 11:24 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6094] Fixing ModAuthority problems <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6094> 11:36 jenkins_koha Starting build 18 for job Koha_3.4.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 12:06 * druthb waves to oleonard 12:06 oleonard Hi everyone 12:08 kf morning oleonard 12:17 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.4.x build #18: SUCCESS in 40 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.4.x/18/ 12:17 jenkins_koha f.demians: 3.4.3 translation update 13:48 kf magnuse## 13:48 kf magnuse++ even 13:48 libsysguy morning #Koha 13:50 kf hi libsysguy 13:50 kf and bye :) 14:15 wizzyrea good morning 14:16 oleonard Hi wizzyrea 14:16 libsysguy morning wizzyrea 14:16 wizzyrea how is everyone's monday so far 14:17 libsysguy very monday like 14:17 wizzyrea :/ 14:17 libsysguy indeed 14:18 libsysguy we have 21 days till launch :D 14:18 wizzyrea a lot to get done in that time? 14:19 libsysguy yeah, patron data is my next big thing to move (apparently we just can't forgive everybody's fines) 14:19 wizzyrea hmm 14:19 libsysguy druthb has some cool scripts to help that I'll be using 14:19 wizzyrea fine amnesty is a great way to bring back patrons and increase patron loyalty. 14:19 libsysguy its just a matter of me not being lazy and doing it :-\ 14:20 wizzyrea ah 14:20 oleonard Fine amnesty? wizzyrea sounds like one of those liberal hippie types 14:20 rhcl Honey, I'm home 14:21 libsysguy meh a nickel here a dime there...im sure it add up lol 14:21 * wizzyrea thinks that fines are a great way to get patrons to hate the library, and thus not support it when it goes to the ballots for, say, an expansion. 14:21 libsysguy i think a lot of it is just making sure we get our books back 14:22 rhcl We don't charge fines. 14:22 wizzyrea we have libraries that consider loss a cost of doing business. :P 14:22 * wizzyrea will stop with the anti-fine rhetoric, for now 14:23 wizzyrea rhcl++ ;) 14:23 rhcl Somebody here said one time that we used to charge fines, but then stopped and we actually got better returns than before (albeit slower) 14:23 druthb o/ 14:23 wizzyrea (yea yea, I know, your library budget wouldn't survive without the fines) 14:23 wizzyrea yay druthb! 14:23 wizzyrea \p 14:23 wizzyrea erm 14:23 wizzyrea \o 14:23 druthb lol 14:23 oleonard We don't charge fines either. And we all wear sandals with socks. 14:23 wizzyrea hippies! 14:24 libsysguy UNIX programmers... 14:24 druthb i migrated a library a while back that had no reference collection. Everything they *own* circulates to any patron, two weeks, no fine. 14:24 druthb easy_circ_maps++ 14:24 * wizzyrea wonders if oleonard has gotten out his pocket protector 14:25 rhcl Linux is soo coool. I'm running two VMs inside my OpenSuse desktop, and trying to convince myself I need to have another one with some version of RH running "just because" 14:26 sekjal article I'd love to see: a detailed comparison of installing Koha 3.4 on a wide range of Linux distributions and versions. 14:27 oleonard No pocket protector wizzyrea, but I'm seriously considering elbow-patches for my blazer 14:27 wizzyrea that would be super dapper. 14:27 rhcl apt-get install koha is PDC 14:27 rhcl yum install koha would be great toooo 14:27 rhcl or do I mean zypper? 14:29 druthb sekjal: here's the RHEL entry: "Don't even *think* about it." 14:29 libsysguy speaking of cool stuff is anybody using cacti 14:31 libsysguy *on their koha server* 14:31 sekjal druthb: yeah, that was awful. 14:31 rhcl I did my MAS (master's) with a guy that was a real fan of cacti 14:31 sekjal libsysguy: haven't tried it yet, no 14:31 libsysguy yeah i really like it too 14:31 libsysguy i used it a lot at my old job 14:31 * oleonard assumes it is not because they don't need to be watered often 14:31 libsysguy but i just used it and never had to install it 14:39 rhcl heya munin, gimme bug 5429 14:39 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5429 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , Enable Koha to fetch book covers from openlibrary 14:39 rhcl Isn't the patch for this something of relative importance? 14:39 oleonard What do you mean rhcl ? 14:40 rhcl Ah, like, isn't getting more book covers a Good Thing? (excuse what I perceive to be self-evident) 14:41 oleonard Yeah, I'd say so. Why? 14:41 * wizzyrea is reminded that only one works at a time. 14:42 oleonard We still need cascading book-cover fallback handling. 14:42 wizzyrea ^^ 14:42 rhcl Oh, I guess it's just me, but this particular item on the kohadev list struck me as being more interesting than some 14:42 druthb oleonard++ 14:43 oleonard Nothing to plus me about. I'm just flappin' my gums. 14:43 rhcl so, how hard would it be to code cascading book covers do you suppose? 14:44 * druthb notices that when oleonard's gums flap, Good Ideas N Stuff come out. 14:44 druthb 'sides, I'll plus you just for being oleonard. 14:44 wizzyrea speaking of cascading book covers, is there even a bug in for that? 14:45 oleonard You can plus me for Bug 5433, I'm quite happy with that one 14:45 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5433 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Separate state field for cities 14:45 wizzyrea ah bug 2131 14:45 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2131 enhancement, P5, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , Enhanced Content - Multiple Choices 14:46 rhcl OK, but for cascading book covers, you'd want it to be a generic puller--not hard code just amazon or OBC, right. You'd want to be able to define any number of sources 14:46 druthb oleonard++ 14:46 rhcl oleonard++ 14:48 rhcl I'll bet we could find some participative coin in our pocket for cascading book covers... 14:53 oleonard The incomplete work from 2009: http://lists.koha-community.org/pipermail/koha-patches/2009-February/008273.html 14:56 Oak hello #koha 14:56 Oak heya druthb 14:56 druthb hi, Oak. 14:56 Oak :) 15:00 talljoy druthb: o/ 15:01 druthb hi, talljoy! :D 15:05 rhcl hi Oak 15:15 Oak Hello ketchup 15:16 Oak how are you today? 15:18 mustard who's ketchup? 15:18 Oak hehe 15:19 Oak you is ketchup my friend, you! 15:20 guacamole :P 15:20 Agent_Dani I miss guacamole! ;) 15:20 mustard we need a score card around here to keep track of all the players 15:21 rhcl when I'm at work I'm always rhcl 15:21 rhcl most always 15:21 Oak hmm. :) 16:16 reiveune bye 16:33 * druthb heads out for a bit...company has arrived! 16:56 cait hi all 16:57 rhcl hi cait 17:27 rhcl looks like the 'net dropped a link somewhere 17:48 wizzyrea libsysguy1: http://www.nypl.org/readdown 17:49 wizzyrea oh bother he's gone 18:14 cait hi liz :) 18:14 wizzyrea hi cait :) 19:31 wizzyrea what's the syspref for javascript autocomplete of patron names 19:31 * wizzyrea is having a brain fart. 19:31 * talljoy holds nose 19:33 sekjal circautocomplete ? 19:43 cait hi magnuse :) 19:43 magnuse guten abend cait 19:43 magnuse ...and #koha 19:43 wizzyrea close sekjal: circautocompl 19:44 sekjal :) 19:44 wizzyrea ty :) 19:44 cait magnus: can you fly over and kill this really big spider in my bathroom? 19:45 * wizzyrea suggests the cup and index card method of spider removal 19:45 jcamins_away cait: is it a roach-eating spider? 19:45 magnuse nah, but i might try and move it outside... 19:45 cait that's ok 19:45 cait I tried to catch it... but it ran away 19:45 cait not sure I want to know where it is now 19:46 cait jcamins_away: not sure, it's big enough to catch the smaller onces 19:46 cait ones 19:49 magnuse it will probably do more good than harm... 19:49 cait hmpf 19:49 cait I have quite a high spider tolerance 19:49 cait but this is too big to live in my bathroom 19:51 magnuse heh 19:51 wizzyrea checkins -> old_issues? 19:51 * magnuse thinks so 20:07 magnuse eythian_: quick q if you have the time: should the "translate install xx-YY" command go in debian/rules, or can i assume that has been done before debian/rules is run? 20:08 eythian_ I think that it should go into debian/rules. 20:08 eythian_ So that it's automatically made as part of the package build process. 20:08 magnuse ok 20:09 magnuse i'll be testing with norwegian, but would that mean eventually everyone will have to build packages for all the languages, when they build packages? 20:10 magnuse or is there some way to say what packages/languages should be built? 20:25 eythian_ Start with Norwegian, we'll see how that works out, and go from there. 20:25 eythian_ I think that we should be building them as part of the package building process. 20:28 magnuse ok, i'll see how far i get and worry about the rest of the world later ;-) 20:29 cait if you write down how you do it... I can try with German next :) 20:31 eythian_ yeah, well, once it's been done once, all the rest should be pretty easy 20:31 magnuse fingers crossed ;-) 20:46 bg @wunder 93109 20:46 huginn` bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 24.3�C (1:45 PM PDT on July 25, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1012.8 hPa (Steady). 20:48 phlunk3 lo, I am trying to move data from 3.00.05.003 to the current stable version, can someone suggest the best method for this? I have tried with a straight sql dump but am getting errors due to key constraints on import so guessing its wrong ;) 20:52 cait a dump should work I think 20:52 eythian_ A dump works, how are you making the dump and loading it back in? 20:52 cait hi robin 20:52 cait thx :) 20:53 * eythian_ is in a car heading to Levin. 20:54 magnuse eythian_: say hi to jo and all the other cool koha librarians of nz from us! ;-) 20:54 eythian_ sitting beside Judit, that's quite a challenge. 20:54 eythian_ fdn 20:54 eythian_ see 20:55 cait what magnuse said :) 20:55 cait did she hit you? 20:56 libsysguy ca i apply patches from bugzilla 20:56 libsysguy can* 20:56 wizzyrea you have gitbz? 20:57 wizzyrea gitbz? 20:57 libsysguy umm in theory yes 20:57 libsysguy but its not working like it should 20:57 wizzyrea make a branch git bz apply xxxx 20:57 wizzyrea what's your error? 20:57 magnuse libsysguy: see http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Sign_off_on_patches 20:57 wizzyrea git bz? 20:57 wizzyrea hrmph I know I taught wahanui about that. 20:58 libsysguy wizzyrea: bz isnt' a git command 20:58 wizzyrea ah you probably need to make sure that git-bz is in your path 20:58 wizzyrea http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Git_bz_configuration 21:04 libsysguy holy moly it works :D 21:04 phlunk3 eyth just making the dump with mysqldump and loading it via the command line (data and structure) 21:04 * libsysguy is so happy 21:04 phlunk3 maybe I should make a new dump with jsut data and try loading that to the existing tables. Will see what happens :) 21:04 wizzyrea hehe 21:04 wizzyrea what ended up being the problem? 21:05 libsysguy i think it was an old version of git-bz or something 21:05 wizzyrea cool beans! 21:05 libsysguy i checked out slefs copy and it worked awesome 21:07 * magnuse bids #koha a good night or other time of the day 21:10 libsysguy wizzyrea: is there anything i have to do after apply a patch 21:10 wizzyrea test it ^.^ 21:10 libsysguy hehe 21:10 wizzyrea (no) 21:11 libsysguy even for db changes 21:11 libsysguy i was trying to test bug 5549 21:11 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5549 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED , Hourly Loans 21:11 wizzyrea for DB changes you'll have to hit the web interface 21:11 wizzyrea and go through the update process 21:11 wizzyrea I don't honestly test those much 21:11 wizzyrea I think you have to give the updatedatabase script a number 21:11 * libsysguy doesn't have a choice 21:12 wizzyrea one of the others may be able to help more? 21:12 wizzyrea cait maybe? 21:12 wizzyrea hmm cait's probably in bed. 21:12 libsysguy hehe 21:12 * libsysguy would like to be sleeping and its only 4 here 21:12 cait hm'? 21:12 cait no I am here 21:12 libsysguy cait lives 21:12 libsysguy lol 21:12 cait not really :P 21:12 libsysguy haha 21:13 libsysguy do you know how to do db patches with git bz 21:13 wizzyrea (though the bz part is only for getting and pushing patches, the rest is SOP) 21:13 wizzyrea (with git) 21:14 cait ah 21:14 libsysguy SOP? 21:14 cait reading back 21:14 cait ok 21:14 wizzyrea standard operating procedure 21:14 cait let me look at the patch for a second 21:14 libsysguy ahh gotcha 21:14 libsysguy ok 21:14 cait do you have the bug number? 21:14 cait sop? 21:14 cait ah 21:14 libsysguy 5549 21:14 cait bug 5549 21:14 libsysguy bug 5549 21:14 cait lazy wahanui? 21:15 libsysguy http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5549 21:15 huginn` 04Bug 5549: enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED , Hourly Loans 21:15 cait hm 21:15 cait it looks like they did something new there 21:15 libsysguy sadly 21:16 cait have you tried to run the perl file colin mentions? 21:16 cait installer/data/mysql/atomicupdate/hourlyloans.sql 21:16 libsysguy that path doesn't exist 21:16 cait and which patch did you apply? 21:17 cait why not checkout the branch? 21:17 libsysguy 6430 6431 6432 6438 21:17 libsysguy and that may not be a bad idea 21:17 cait oh 21:17 libsysguy i made a new branch for those patches 21:17 cait hm 21:17 cait not sure how that all belongs together 21:17 cait you don#t have the file colin mentions? 21:18 libsysguy how would i check out that branch? 21:18 libsysguy and no I don't 21:18 libsysguy oh wait 21:18 libsysguy i might have had a typo 21:19 libsysguy yeah definitely not 21:19 cait hm something lieke 21:19 cait git checkout -b yournameforit new/awaiting_qa/bug_5549 21:19 cait are you checking in the browser or on command line, for the file? 21:20 phlunk3 okay stupid question maybe I just made my dump wrong, but I dumped the whole database including tables and try to import that to an empty database and am getting "ERROR 1452 (23000) at line 859456: Cannot add or update a child row: a foreign key constraint fails" anyone knows how to solve this issue so I can migrate data from one install to the other? if not I can try doing a data only export but then I will have probs that the base data is set from the i 21:20 phlunk3 nstallation. 21:21 cait phlunk3: sorry, not sure what is the problem there 21:22 cait mysqldump -u<user> -p <database> >dump_xxx.sql 21:22 cait is what I normally do 21:22 cait and then mysql -u<user> -p <database> <dump_xxx.sql to load it 21:22 cait that worked without problems so far 21:23 cait libsysguy: still around? 21:23 libsysguy yeah 21:23 cait I think what I would do is kill the branch you have applied the patches too and try testing the qa branch from the repository 21:23 libsysguy i got an error 21:24 libsysguy fatal: git checkout: updating paths is incompatible with switching branches. 21:24 libsysguy Did you intend to checkout 'new/awaiting_qa/bug_5549' which can not be resolved as commit? 21:24 cait like? 21:24 libsysguy ^^ 21:24 cait sorry... the chat scrolling is broken again 21:24 libsysguy oh noes 21:24 cait irritating 21:24 libsysguy indeed 21:24 cait hm 21:24 phlunk3 will try making a new dump maybe something went wrong there 21:25 libsysguy when you updated did you drop the old database? 21:25 libsysguy phlunk3 21:25 jcamins_away libsysguy: did you remember to include the remote in there? e.g. kc/new/awaiting_qa/bug_5549? 21:25 cait libsysguy: git checkout -b yournewbranch remotebranch should work 21:25 cait ah 21:26 cait tht might be it 21:26 cait although my wiki cheat sheet does not have the remote part, for the main repo 21:30 phlunk3 yeah I dropped the old db libsysguy 21:30 libsysguy hmm 21:31 wizzyrea fining interval - does it do something weird? my peeps tell me that on a *new* rule, having a fining interval extends the circ period by the number in fining interval?! 21:31 wizzyrea but 21:31 wizzyrea rules dating back before our last upgrade to head, have fining intervals, and their circ periods are just fine?! 21:37 cait hm 21:37 cait wizzyrea: how high is the fining interval? 21:37 wizzyrea like, 1 21:37 cait yeah 21:37 cait it's true 21:37 cait means probably an implicit grace period of 1 21:37 cait I have 7 21:37 libsysguy jcamins_away: i think i missed something 21:38 cait which means that the first fine is added 7 days after due date 21:38 libsysguy i did git remote add hourly http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?p=koha.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/\ 21:38 libsysguy bug_5549 21:38 cait so what they tell you sounds reasonable 21:38 libsysguy oops 21:38 wizzyrea but actually moving the due date? 21:38 libsysguy then git checkout -b bug_5549 hourly/new/awaiting_qa/bug_5549 21:38 cait libsysguy: it#s on the normal repo 21:38 wizzyrea doesn't that seem odd? 21:38 cait yes 21:38 wizzyrea seems like it shouldn't do that 21:38 cait it's annoying big time 21:38 wizzyrea but the old rules aren't doing that!? 21:38 cait they always did 21:39 cait for the 7 days thing at least 21:39 cait we are running 3.2.2 right now and it's like that there 21:39 cait I have an open bug for it 21:39 wizzyrea the due date is offset by the number in the db table 'chargeperiod' 21:39 wizzyrea ? 21:39 cait ah 21:39 jcamins_away libsysguy: it sounds like your remote might already include the path? Maybe git checkout -b bug_5549 hourly 21:39 cait not the duedate no 21:39 cait only the day when the first fine is set 21:39 jcamins_away libsysguy: just guessing. 21:40 cait sorry, perhaps i misunderstood 21:40 libsysguy i keep getting this error: 21:40 jcamins_away libsysguy: I'm currently working on a book project, so I'm only looking every so often. 21:40 cait jcamins_away: libsysguy: it's on the normal repo, not catalyst 21:40 libsysguy fatal: git checkout: updating paths is incompatible with switching branches. 21:40 wahanui i already had it that way, libsysguy. 21:40 libsysguy Did you intend to checkout 'hourly' which can not be resolved as commit? 21:40 jcamins_away libsysguy: okay, try this: 21:40 cait so I think you don#t have to add a new remote repo 21:40 jcamins_away git checkout -b bug_5549 master/new/awaiting_qa/bug_5549 21:41 wizzyrea i'm going to make him recreate it 21:41 cait wizzyrea: sorry for causing confusion 21:41 libsysguy same error jcamins 21:41 wizzyrea because that just seems ludicrous; it wouldn't treat some rules different than others, just because of their age 21:41 wizzyrea no no, it's fine 21:41 cait libsysguy: what dos your git remote show look like? 21:41 jcamins_away libsysguy: hm. Out of ideas, then. 21:41 libsysguy haha 21:41 libsysguy i wonder if i can delete that remote branch 21:42 wizzyrea because it doesn't have a mechanism that I can see by which 'old' rules would be different from 'new rules 21:42 cait wizzyrea: yea, changng the due_date sounds odd 21:42 phlunk3 okay I managed to import my database from a new dump without a hitch, but upon logging in I see only this error: Template process failed: file error - doc-head-open.inc: not found at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Templates.pm line 119. any ideas? 21:43 cait have you installed Template::Toolkit? 21:43 cait T::T? 21:43 wahanui T::T is, like, Template::Toolkit, the templating system Koha uses starting with version 3.4 21:43 phlunk3 ahh no I have only installed the requirements for the package install. Can you tell me how to install this? 21:43 cait thought wahanui would tell :) 21:43 cait which os are you using? 21:43 phlunk3 ubuntu 21:44 jcamins_away wahanui: T::T is also installed by running apt-get install libtemplate-perl 21:44 wahanui okay, jcamins_away. 21:45 cait you have to install this and also run a script 21:45 cait to remove your items from the xml, it's in the release notes 21:46 Phlunk sorry something happened, other irc client crashed. do u know what script I need to run? as it seems the package is already installed and up to date. 21:48 cait hm 21:48 cait jcamins_away: any idea about hte error? 21:49 cait oh 21:49 jcamins_away cait: none, sorry. 21:49 cait have you other languages installed 21:49 cait ? 21:49 Phlunk no, or at least only what was installed with the base package. 21:49 cait ok, so you use the normal english templates? 21:49 Phlunk read online that it can be that the system is set to use a language not installed. 21:49 jcamins_away Phlunk: wait, you're on a package install? 21:49 cait oh 21:49 cait right 21:49 Phlunk yes this was with a package installation. 21:50 Phlunk which worked np 21:50 Phlunk then I moved the database over. 21:50 Phlunk so it can be that they had some other language selected, but I am not sure where to see this in the database. 21:55 Phlunk | language | en-NZ | | Set the default language in the staff client. | Languages | 21:55 Phlunk do I need to install a special template pack for en-NZ somehow? 21:56 cait that will not work with the templates right now 21:56 cait is that line from your systempreferences? 21:57 cait table? 21:57 Phlunk yes, I updated it to en-EN now and it is now showing an installer screen. 21:57 cait ok, that will not work with the packages right now, only en will work afaik 21:57 cait great 21:57 cait :) 21:57 Phlunk no not great :P I dont want to install it again, I just want it to use the data that I pushed to the database right? or will this run some migration scripts? 21:58 cait it will update the database 21:58 Phlunk cool I shall give it a go ;) if I can just remember the password I chose lol 21:58 cait if not 21:58 cait it's in your xml file 21:58 cait the koha_conf xml thing 21:59 Phlunk hehe I know :) 21:59 cait it should ask you about updates and run them, normally all should be ok after that 21:59 Phlunk We are upgrading from Koha 3.00.05.003 to 3.04.02.000, you must update your database omg looks good, thanks heaps guys you've been a big help so far. 22:00 cait cool 22:00 cait remember to run the script to remove the items 22:00 cait I think there might be a command in the packages to do this 22:00 Phlunk which script? :S 22:01 cait hm 22:02 Phlunk okay I have another issue, the update all seemed to go fine, but it pushes me through to the domain from the old server. is this stored in the db somewhere? 22:02 libsysguy later #Koha 22:03 Phlunk okay nevermind the server thing, was a custom part which an intern had made I believe lol. 22:04 cait check the release notes for 3.4 for the name of the script 22:04 Phlunk tx cait will do 22:04 cait ok 22:04 cait :) 22:04 cait now time to go to bed here 22:04 cait bye all 22:31 Rob Hi is anyone online 22:45 rhcl_away 3.4.3 already? Excellent!