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23:45 wahanui 41.7333333333333
23:45 rangi 2504 / 60
22:34 huginn` slef: The operation succeeded.
22:34 slef @later tell jcamins from memory I think BL offers MARC21 if you register but I can't remember if it costs to register.
21:59 jati how can i update a po file, with contents of other po file, of version 3.0. It has to update in the new po file only the msg that match exactly, not the others
21:58 jati I've a question about po files
21:58 jati hi koha
21:47 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5917 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Switch Koha to use Template::Toolkit
21:47 jenkins_koha oleonard: Follow-up fixes for Bug 5917, Switch Koha to use Template::Toolkit
21:47 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #334: SUCCESS in 43 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/334/
21:14 jcamins Have a good weekend, #koha
21:13 rangi nice
21:13 rangi https://ahuntsic.koha.ccsr.qc.ca/cgi-bin/koha/opac-main.pl
21:13 wizzyrea hehehe
21:12 rangi heh
21:11 wahanui I LIKE SPACE!
21:11 bg NateC?
21:04 jenkins_koha Starting build 334 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
21:00 sekjal night, #koha!
20:55 Shelley night cait
20:54 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'kc/new/enh/bug_5917' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bd73c9f9ce8d161a1ed0f2e1205e5c0c8eecb0ae> / Follow-up fixes for Bug 5917, Switch Koha to use Template::Toolkit <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d8bf9e6a29da4d07c108be25aac26f35fb216b79>
20:54 cait good night all
20:47 * Shelley is having a nightmare with quassel atm
20:47 rangi oh yeah
20:46 cait was on one of your lists too
20:46 Shelley cait: it's a great album, that Brooke Fraser one
20:45 Shelley Nice.
20:45 cait something in the water is in the radio here a lot now
20:45 cait :)
20:45 rangi pretty much no
20:45 jcamins rangi: is there anything you don't have a playlist for?
20:45 cait another rangi playlist! :)
20:43 rangi http://grooveshark.com/#/playlist/Friday+Morning+Wake+Up/57239977
20:43 rangi here we go
20:43 rangi heya Shelley
20:42 Shelley morning all.
20:37 * jcamins doesn't have a bike, anyway.
20:36 jcamins :)
20:36 wizzyrea :)
20:36 wizzyrea that's silly talk.
20:36 wizzyrea wait
20:36 wizzyrea I suppose you could cool your bike that way
20:36 * jcamins doesn't ever drive, though
20:35 * jcamins saw that video.
20:35 wizzyrea doh he's gone
20:35 wizzyrea did you see the video on "how to cool a hot car"
20:33 oleonard No, but my car is surely an oven
20:33 nengard i had the air blasting in the car :)
20:33 nengard are you walking home?
20:33 * oleonard braces himself
20:32 * oleonard reluctantly packs up to leave the comfort of his office for the sauna that is outside
20:23 cait that's great news
20:22 cait :)
20:21 nengard EST
20:21 nengard she plans on leaving the hospital at about 10am tomorrow
20:21 nengard yup
20:18 rangi great news about druthb
20:17 rangi back
20:13 nengard no prob
20:13 wizzyrea nengard++ thanks for the update
20:12 nengard for a couple weeks
20:12 nengard she goes from there to an apartment above the doc's office
20:12 wizzyrea woohoo!
20:12 nengard druthb update - she's getting out of the hospital tomorrow!
20:08 cait the turtle confused me :P
20:08 wizzyrea oy no lie.
20:08 oleonard And brains-poor, judging from the news.
20:08 wizzyrea well, the US is land rich
20:07 rangi ok my stop be back in 10
20:06 cait ?
20:06 rangi oh theres a whole phd in this
20:06 jcamins We start feeling impinged upon when a lot of other cultures would consider us too far apart to have a conversation.
20:05 wizzyrea lord, our average house size is almost twice the size of a house in the UK
20:05 rangi or maybe thats just California
20:05 rangi :)
20:05 rangi like, I like space
20:05 rangi NateC: and use the word like more than anywhere else :)
20:05 NateC gotcha
20:05 jcamins NateC: I was referring to the amount of personal space Americans require, compared to other cultures.
20:04 rangi cait: do a search on youtube for I like turtles
20:04 jcamins NateC: yeah, in case there are any Canadians who would get offended by the word "American."
20:04 NateC meaning that we are direct and to the point?
20:04 NateC USian?
20:03 jcamins NateC: it's also a very USian statement. It would have been perfect. :)
20:03 cait turtles?
20:03 rangi I like space .... and turtles
20:02 NateC it just says it all, and on so many levels
20:02 NateC i would have gone with "I like space" direct and to the point
20:02 rangi hehe awesome
20:01 NateC yeah but they left my buddy who said "i think we need to look at colonizing other planets; hey we are ruining this one may as well find another one to ruin"
20:01 rangi hehe
20:00 rangi aww man
20:00 NateC these people don't know real humor when they see it
20:00 NateC rangi: they cut me out of that interview!
20:00 rangi awesome!
20:00 JesseM rangi opps
20:00 JesseM range i'll send you the entire season
19:59 * rangi giggles
19:59 wahanui I LIKE SPACE!
19:59 rangi natec?
19:58 rangi im hoping it plays here at some point
19:57 rangi oleonard: apparently a great show on discovery
19:55 JesseM the swamp people are awesome :)
19:55 huginn` JesseM: The current temperature in Nichols Elementary School, Stratford, Connecticut is 30.6ï¿½C (3:52 PM EDT on July 21, 2011). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 25.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 29.70 in 1005.6 hPa (Steady). Heat advisory in effect until 8 PM EDT this evening...
19:55 JesseM @wunder stratford ct
19:55 oleonard swampperson?
19:54 rangi heya swampperson :)
19:54 JesseM Hey rangi
19:52 rangi yay friday!
19:46 rangi heya cait :)
19:45 cait hi rangi
19:41 huginn` rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 8.0ï¿½C (7:00 AM NZST on July 22, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 2.0ï¿½C. Windchill: 3.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Rising).
19:41 rangi @wunder wellington nz
19:38 * druthb heads back to bed. Thanks to everyone for the kind words n thoughts.
19:21 druthb :)
19:20 cait and I am too!
19:20 cait you are really here :)
19:20 wahanui it has been said that Cait is kf or a programmer or really sweet or a source of great chocolate or the purveyor of an infinite supply of virtual cookies
19:20 druthb Cait?
19:20 wahanui hmmm... druthb is gonna be out the week of July 18-22, and you won't see much of her for a couple of weeks after that.
19:20 cait druthb?
19:17 oleonard Seems like our options for presenting and filtering records in the OPAC are pretty limited
19:16 oleonard Anyone know any Koha libraries who use Overdrive?
19:16 druthb I wish!
19:15 oleonard did that come with vodka and a celery stick?
19:15 druthb Better even
19:14 druthb 4 units of blood and I feel so much beyer
19:13 druthb Hi jcamins n wizzy
19:12 wizzyrea hehe
19:12 druthb Percocet++
19:12 wizzyrea <bighug> druthb
19:11 jcamins Hi, druthb!
19:07 oleonard That's one of the disadvantages I see to a lot of grid frameworks
19:07 oleonard I like that it promises flexible (as opposed to only fixed) layouts
19:07 oleonard slef: I hadn't seen inuitcss before
19:00 jwagner Thanks
19:00 jwagner That's what I remembered, but mind like a steel sieve....
19:00 jcamins That is my understanding.
18:59 jwagner Would someone confirm my memory? British Library uses SUTRS format and you can't z39.50 those into Koha?
18:47 wizzyrea take that smarty
18:47 wizzyrea :P
18:47 wizzyrea but 5 minutes ago I was driving past a bank.
18:47 * cait waves
18:47 wizzyrea well I'm at my desk NOW silly.
18:47 oleonard What's wrong is chatting on IRC while driving ;)
18:46 * jcamins agrees
18:46 wizzyrea that's just wrong.
18:46 wizzyrea good god. The thermometer on the bank I just drove by said 105F
18:46 wizzyrea lol jcamins did it for me, didn't see that sorry.
18:46 jcamins wizzyrea: that's what I just looked up.
18:46 huginn` wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 37.5ï¿½C (1:45 PM CDT on July 21, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 38%. Dew Point: 21.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007.0 hPa (Steady). Excessive heat warning in effect until 7 PM CDT Saturday...
18:46 wizzyrea @wunder Lawrence KS
18:45 huginn` oleonard: The current temperature in Athens, Ohio is 33.0ï¿½C (2:35 PM EDT on July 21, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 23.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 29.88 in 1012 hPa (Falling). Excessive heat warning in effect until 8 PM EDT this evening...
18:45 oleonard @wunder 45701
18:45 huginn` jcamins: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 37.4ï¿½C (1:45 PM CDT on July 21, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 39%. Dew Point: 21.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007.0 hPa (Steady). Excessive heat warning in effect until 7 PM CDT Saturday...
18:45 jcamins @wunder lawrence, ks
18:29 huginn` bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 17.5ï¿½C (11:28 AM PDT on July 21, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 15.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012.1 hPa (Steady).
18:29 bg @wunder 93109
18:17 jcamins Not that it sounds a whole lot better upstate, but at least I don't have to pay for the air conditioning.
18:15 huginn` jcamins: The current temperature in MonkWeather, Pine Bush, New York is 35.2ï¿½C (2:14 PM EDT on July 21, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 25.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 29.73 in 1006.7 hPa (Steady). Heat advisory in effect until 8 PM EDT this evening...
18:15 jcamins @wunder ellenville, ny
18:14 huginn` rhcl: The current temperature in St Joseph, Missouri is 34.5ï¿½C (1:14 PM CDT on July 21, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 26%. Dew Point: 12.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1013.8 hPa (Steady). Excessive heat warning in effect until 7 PM CDT Saturday...
18:14 rhcl @wunder 64507
18:14 rhcl oops
18:14 huginn` rhcl: The current temperature in West Batavia, Batavia, Illinois is 33.6ï¿½C (1:13 PM CDT on July 21, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 27.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 29.75 in 1007.3 hPa (Steady). Excessive heat warning in effect until 9 PM CDT this evening...
18:14 rhcl @wunder 60507
18:13 jwagner Don't think I made it down there when I was in that part of the world -- I might have just caught the edge of Austria, but I think I mostly kept to Bavaria & Switzerland.
18:13 cait next time :)
18:13 jcamins We thought about visiting Vienna, but it was just a little too far.
18:12 jwagner Tell them to consider the alternative -- they can have OUR weather if they want!
18:12 cait but people keep complaining about the autumn like weather
18:12 cait vienna is worth a visit
18:11 * jwagner packs bags to go visit cait
18:11 huginn` cait: The current temperature in 1030 Wien, VIENNA, Austria is 16.2ï¿½C (8:00 PM CEST on July 21, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 8.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 29.67 in 1004.6 hPa (Steady).
18:11 cait @wunder wien
18:08 jcamins "Heat index values up to 103." "Heat index: 108"
18:05 jwagner Well, the weather came from those pesky Midwesterners first!
18:05 jwagner I have problems with air quality too. Thank goodness for being able to work from home.
18:05 jcamins I mean, I think *our* weather is coming up from by you.
18:05 jwagner We're already there. Today through Saturday, heat indexes are expected anywhere from 105 to 115 or higher. Ugh.
18:04 jcamins jwagner: I think it's coming up from there... the heat index is supposed to hit 114 tomorrow.
18:04 huginn` jcamins: The current temperature in Middle Village, Queens, New York is 33.6ï¿½C (2:00 PM EDT on July 21, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 25.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 29.75 in 1007.3 hPa (Steady). Excessive heat warning in effect until 10 PM EDT Friday...
18:04 jcamins @wunder 11375
18:04 huginn` jwagner: The current temperature in Hollywood, College Park, Maryland is 36.4ï¿½C (2:03 PM EDT on July 21, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: 26.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 29.78 in 1008.4 hPa (Falling). Excessive heat warning in effect until 8 PM EDT this evening...
18:03 jwagner @wunder 20740
18:03 jcamins Well, now I know it's probably not psychosomatic.
18:03 cait ouch
18:02 jcamins Ozone. There's an air quality warning.
18:02 oleonard Forgot you put on a corset?
18:02 cait allergies?
18:02 cait ?
17:58 * jcamins realizes why he's been having trouble breathing for the past two days.
17:58 jcamins Ohhh.
17:27 slef oleonard: have you tried http://csswizardry.com/inuitcss/ ?
17:25 reiveune bye
17:24 wizzyrea cool thanks I'll watch it
17:24 slef wizzyrea: posted http://wordpress.org/support/topic/theme-cordobo-green-park-2-bug-add-your-comment-link-displayed-when-comments-have-closed
17:15 jcamins Oh no!
17:14 * slef likes chocolate. chocolate doesn't like slef
17:12 jcamins Does slef not like chocolate?
17:12 * cait sends slef a chocolateless cookie
17:09 * slef does the password reset shuffle
17:08 slef http://wordpress.org/tags/cordobo-green-park-2?forum_id=5
17:08 slef ah, there's a forum on the wordpress.org page for it
17:07 slef but his blog page for the theme doesn't allow comments
17:07 slef says to leave a comment on his blog
17:06 slef "he can't provide support for any of hisWordpress themes"
17:06 slef Green Park 2
17:06 wizzyrea what is
17:06 slef it's abandonware
17:05 slef oh what the chuffing grrrrr
17:03 wizzyrea yes
17:03 slef Is that what Green Park 2 is?
17:02 wizzyrea ^^
17:02 slef theme bug?
17:01 slef wizzyrea: so why's there still a link saying "Add your comment"?
17:01 wizzyrea well it's over a month old
17:00 slef well that's inopportune
17:00 slef oh wait... have comments closed? :-/
17:00 slef Can someone answer http://koha-community.org/librarian-readable-release-notes/comment-page-1/#comment-3849 better than I could, please?
16:57 jcamins Wow. That was 14 years ago.
16:57 jcamins Yeah. And my experience was limited to pre-Java2.
16:56 slef ISTR when I used Java apps, lots had text that overflowed boxes, widgets colliding and stuff like that.
16:56 jcamins slef: yup. Those are they.
16:55 slef jcamins: I never programmed much Java. Was it three layout models like grid, place and flow?
16:55 jcamins oleonard: yes.
16:55 oleonard jcamins: Was it for creating GUIs in Java?
16:55 jcamins I've mostly blotted from my memory the exact way it worked, but I remember it was horrible.
16:54 jcamins slef: wise.
16:52 slef jcamins: I don't remember them.
16:40 jcamins slef: so would you consider the early Java layout schemes superior to YUI?
16:37 oleonard No, not that I can see
16:37 slef oleonard: I saw it, but it can't do 25/50/25 can it?
16:31 oleonard Do you use this slef? http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/grids/builder/
16:26 slef yeah... it looks like YUI can do a with the right settings but not always b, which I guess is distinctive at least ;-)
16:26 slef I've seen all sorts of things, like html5skeleton, and none of them both scale and work.
16:25 oleonard slef: It's usually (a) that I find missing
16:25 slef oleonard: is there any grid system that a. scales; and b. works?
16:25 slef oleonard: so I'm a bit cross with them just now.
16:25 oleonard slef: Ah, the grids. Yeah, they're not always easy to work with.
16:24 jcamins cait: You're welcome.
16:24 slef oleonard: for reasons I don't understand, I kept getting either 2-1-1 or 1-blank-1-1 :-/
16:24 cait thx jcamins
16:24 cait oh becker has redone the catalog
16:24 slef oleonard: I was banging my head on the CSS grids earlier, trying to get a 1-2-1 width layout with the 2 as early as possible in the source. I was nesting some combo of g* grids. It just doesn't seem to work as described on the website.
16:21 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5481 enhancement, P5, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Replace YUI JS libraries with Jquery UI
16:21 * oleonard is working frequently on Bug 5481
16:20 oleonard What's YUI done today slef?
16:20 slef YUI--
16:20 slef also
16:19 slef hiding INSTALL* files :(
16:19 jcamins Ooh. A beautiful Benoit le Court binding. :)
16:16 jcamins beckercat.wustl.edu?
16:14 cait or a nice special library whose opac I have not used before? :)
16:14 cait nice not french academic library example?
16:14 * jcamins only ever uses the word "consigned" to talk about clothes and the dustbin of history.
16:13 cait certainly have never seen that
16:13 cait consigned?
16:13 wizzyrea that one I have no idea about.
16:13 wizzyrea !!
16:12 oleonard Here's another one: "diffbranch." The dialog says "Item Consigned: Hold for:.."
16:11 * oleonard expands on the comment in the template
16:10 oleonard Weird seeing a Koha dialog for the first time
16:07 wizzyrea Aha!
16:07 oleonard Ah, I got it: It only appears if you have AutomaticItemReturn set to "Don't" automatically transfer items upon return
16:06 wizzyrea maybe it's an independent branches thing?
16:05 wizzyrea I don't think I've ever seen the 2nd verbiage
16:05 wizzyrea ^^ transfer
16:05 wizzyrea when an item doesn't have a reserve on it and just needs to go home
16:05 wizzyrea that would be
16:05 wizzyrea OH
16:05 oleonard With the first, the template says "Please return to X." With the second, the template says "This needs to be transferred. Transfer now?"
16:04 wizzyrea i see why you are confused
16:04 wizzyrea so many things that could mean >.<
16:04 wizzyrea transfer is a correct transfer, and needstransfer is a wrong transfer?
16:04 wizzyrea maybe
16:04 wizzyrea hmm
16:03 * oleonard doesn't know the difference between "transfer" and "needstransfer," for instance
16:03 oleonard I wonder if they aren't actually things that happen, or if I just haven't seen them.
16:02 oleonard Working with the returns template is confusing because I see conditionals for cases I don't ever see
16:02 wizzyrea then "phew, no I didn't"
16:02 wizzyrea and the immedate "oh god, did I just do that wrong?"
16:02 wizzyrea oh yea, same
16:02 oleonard I get it almost any time I 'rm -rf' anything
16:01 * oleonard understands the feeling
16:00 * wizzyrea just had to share.
15:59 wizzyrea every time I delete a volume in AWS I get that swoopy feeling in my stomach like I"m doing something wrong (even when I've double, triple checked that what I'm doing is OK)
15:49 huginn` 03Attachment http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=4703&action=edit image/png, Screenshot of the proposed change, hold-for-patron-message-revision.png
15:49 oleonard Attachment 4703
15:48 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5922] Show waiting items for patron on return <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5922>
15:34 oleonard Oh wait I'm looking for the wrong string
15:33 oleonard I don't see that in updatedatabase.pl
15:28 cait oleonard: yes, should be a system preference ad a hold waiting at the branch you ar loggd in at
15:23 jcamins I'm back to working only with non-circulating libraries, so I don't really know anything about it.
15:21 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5922 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED , Show waiting items for patron on return
15:21 oleonard See Bug 5922
15:20 oleonard Anyone else have that?
15:20 oleonard I should have a HoldNotifyAtCheckin preference?
15:20 oleonard Actually I'm not sure where the mistake lies. Perhaps my database is to blame
15:20 oleonard :)
15:20 jcamins_away oleonard: what, you mean you want that sort of thing to include functionality?!?
15:15 oleonard Interesting... a "" block in returns.tt that does nothing...
15:10 oleonard Checking in the 2nd item and doing nothing with the confirmation is the same as clicking Ignore
15:10 oleonard Okay, I wanted to make sure I wasn't seeing something you were.
15:10 wizzyrea fair enough
15:09 oleonard It doesn't check in the 2nd item? I don't find that to be the case
15:09 wizzyrea that's what was indicated from the chat I thought
15:09 oleonard wizzyrea, you say: "scanning a 2nd item (with a barcode scanner CR) while a "confirm hold" dialog is present doesn't check in the 2nd item *or* confirm or ignore the hold"
15:04 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 2629] Diacritics not being ignored when searching <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2629>
14:30 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6619 minor, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW , pressing enter when hold found at checkin causes issues
14:30 wizzyrea oleonard: bug 6619 what we were talking about yesterday regarding the holds confirm screen
14:28 cait ok
14:28 cait hehe
14:28 sekjal cait: Koha is free, and as such will come and go as it pleases. but don't worry, it knows where to find those who love it.
14:22 nengard ttyl
14:22 nengard okay, time to pack up and head out to teach law and court librarians
14:21 nengard heh
14:21 cait oh no, we lost Koha
14:21 cait oh
14:21 cait but if I do plz pass on another hug
14:21 wizzyrea lol
14:21 Koha Forgiveness is granted. I am merciful.
14:21 nengard Koha, I never misuse your name!!
14:21 cait I hope I will not miss her again
14:20 nengard and I'm sure she'll come on again
14:20 talljoy oh great Koha.....we beg your forgiveness
14:20 nengard but will be there tomorrow
14:20 cait ok
14:20 nengard cause I have to go in to the city
14:20 Koha Or, even worse, all in caps?
14:20 talljoy lol
14:20 nengard I can't see her today
14:20 wizzyrea lol
14:20 nengard she is moving a bit more today
14:20 Koha Did someone speak my name in vain?
14:20 nengard cait she's doing good
14:20 nengard HA
14:19 rhcl who is that dame tomato guy anyway?
14:18 cait any news about ruth? missed her twice today
14:17 cait hi nengard
14:17 nengard hiya cait :)
14:17 * cait hides
14:17 nengard :)
14:17 nengard Koha
14:17 nengard Koha
14:17 nengard it's Koha
14:17 nengard no he's trying to get under my skin ....
14:16 talljoy are we doing cheers?
14:14 tomato KOHA
14:14 tomato KOHA
14:14 tomato KOHA
13:50 wizzyrea ((((((druthb)))))))
12:54 talljoy how about MARC RTP? anyone use that before?
12:53 oleonard Hi druthb, glad to hear you're recovering
12:53 talljoy rest, rest, rest.
12:52 * druthb is more mobile today but still very weak.
12:51 talljoy yes patron marc records. I need to convert to csv
12:50 nengard oleonard i'm on it
12:50 talljoy Hi!
12:50 druthb Hi
12:49 talljoy i see her too
12:49 nengard but i do see her
12:49 wahanui druthb is gonna be out the week of July 18-22, and you won't see much of her for a couple of weeks after that.
12:49 nengard druthb!!
12:49 nengard patron marc?
12:48 talljoy I am looking for a tool to convert patron marc records to csv. Does anyone know of one?
12:45 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5917 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Switch Koha to use Template::Toolkit
12:45 oleonard Anyone looking for a simple template patch to sign off on? I have one on bug 5917 waiting eagerly.
12:27 oleonard I can't even get my own staff to do that.
12:27 nengard but if you know how I can get the word out that it's Koha and not KOHA that would be great!!!!!!
12:26 nengard oleonard - I have no idea
12:12 oleonard "Anyone is using KOHA with barcode." What does that mean?
11:50 cait learning_perl++
11:33 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6620] Sip Server Output may be buffered <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6620>
11:23 cait and going to do some sight seeing later :)
11:23 cait not ready yet
11:23 mtj cait: have fun in your hotel room :)
11:11 cait hiya mason :)
11:10 mtj heya cait
10:36 huginn` cait: The current temperature in 1030 Wien, VIENNA, Austria is 15.8ï¿½C (12:30 PM CEST on July 21, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 11.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 29.64 in 1003.6 hPa (Steady).
10:36 cait @wunder wien
10:36 huginn` cait: Error: No such location could be found.
10:36 cait @wunder vienna
10:34 rangi yeah, its weird
10:34 cait the cheapest hotels have the best wifi deals, wonder why that is
10:33 cait yes :)
10:33 rangi ahh thats good (that the hotel has wifi)
10:33 cait yes, hotel lobby, waiting for my room to get ready and for the rain to stop
10:33 cait rainy
10:33 rangi found wifi?
10:32 cait waiting for my hotel room
10:32 rangi hows austria?
10:32 cait still awake and in vienna :)
10:32 cait yep
10:32 rangi cait!!
10:32 * cait waves
10:27 rangi yep
10:27 paul_p s/dew/humidity/
10:27 paul_p probably the difference between real temp & feeled temp (diff because of wind/dew,...)
10:23 rangi http://www.metservice.com/towns-cities/wellington
10:23 rangi thats more like it
10:23 rangi ah yes, feels like 2
10:22 rangi hmm i dont believe that for a second
10:22 huginn` rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 9.0ï¿½C (10:00 PM NZST on July 21, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 4.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Falling).
10:22 rangi @wunder wellington nz
10:01 * magnuse wanders off to find breakfast
09:58 magnuse my pleasure ;-)
09:58 rangi sweet
09:57 magnuse i'll do a wiki page and e-mail for august 4th later today then
09:52 rangi i think once a month works well
09:39 magnuse yeah, i think i'll stick to that unless anyone objects
09:39 magnuse so maybe have the next one august 4th
09:39 paul_p I think it's better to have a full day -more TZ overlappings-
09:39 magnuse paul_p: cool. my instinct is to keep gbsd ~monthly, any thoughts on that?
09:38 magnuse but there's a lot of stuff already out there to digest too...
09:38 paul_p magnuse, yep, we havd anothor community day tomorrow
09:37 magnuse i'd be up for that
09:37 liw packaging... there's been a number of Debian packaging tutorials over irc over the years; some of the Debian people might be willing to give one to Koha too, if Koha people are interested
09:36 rangi :)
09:36 magnuse and learn some new stuff along the way
09:36 magnuse so with the emails that have already sketched out the way forward, a bit of googling and some good friends i might be able to make progress ;-)
09:35 magnuse and there was someone else who had an opinion on the mailinglist a little while back too
09:34 rangi :)
09:34 magnuse yeah, and eythian, and maybe even you... ;-)
09:33 rangi magnuse: liw? :-)
09:33 magnuse paul_p: are you having another community (half) day tomorrow?
09:32 magnuse rangi: don't get exited too soon! i'm really starting from scratch when it comes packaging, but i know who i can bug... ;-)
09:29 rangi paul_p: the jplot thing was an expirement, i think wouldnt be hard to add the ability to the reports
09:25 rangi wooo hoooo!
09:24 magnuse my next holiday project is translations for the packages, hope to make some progress before the holiday is over...
09:22 magnuse ah, i didn't look that closely at it...
09:17 rangi i think most of it is actually done, in the self check module
09:16 magnuse rangi: nope, i'm not that much of a developer (yet)
09:15 rangi magnuse: you going to reply to them too?
09:12 magnuse sleep tight druthb!
09:12 druthb Im gonna go back to sleep for a bit. C u soon.
09:12 rangi space_librarian emailed them back to ask them a few questions, like what version of koha etc
09:11 rangi they are emailing everyone lots :)
09:10 * magnuse hopes someone responds to the thing from hugo boss too ;-)
09:10 druthb Ohhh..i remember now.
09:10 magnuse yeah, she has a big day tomorrow
09:10 rangi or alreay there and panicking about her 3 hour presentation, which we all know she will do fine at
09:09 rangi ahh she is on her way to austria
09:09 druthb Was hoping to see kf...
09:08 rangi :)
09:08 * magnuse was starting to get worried 'cause there were no updates on the blog, but sighs in relief now...
09:07 magnuse cool
09:07 druthb Hope they get me out of bed today.
09:06 druthb :)
09:05 magnuse yay!
09:05 * magnuse echoes rangi
09:05 druthb Hi. Feeling a lil better.
09:04 rangi hows my favourite hospitalised woman?
09:04 magnuse hiya druthb!!!
09:04 rangi ohh its druthb !!
09:03 magnuse hiya rangi
09:02 rangi hi magnuse
09:02 jenkins_koha Chris Cormack: Fixing missing padding on module version
09:02 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #333: SUCCESS in 43 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/333/
08:44 rangi similair thing
08:44 rangi http://stats.workbuffer.org/its_a_bugs_life.html
08:44 rangi (check the source of the page)
08:43 rangi and then jplot it
08:43 rangi http://bugs.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/progress.pl?type=json
08:43 rangi i wrote a json interface to bugzilla
08:42 paul_p (how are you building this nice graph ?)
08:42 paul_p yep, but as many have been signed-off too, the number is not lowered a lot ;-)
08:40 rangi http://stats.workbuffer.org/graph.html
08:39 rangi in the last week
08:39 rangi you will have noticed that quite a few have been marked passed qa
08:39 rangi yes
08:38 paul_p about the QA = there are 94 bugs signed-off & waiting for QA. did you spoke with ian about that recently ? (remember my mail a few weeks ago)
08:37 mtj ... just reading the scroll-back
08:36 rangi hey mtj
08:36 paul_p hi mjt.
08:36 rangi but like i say, get someone to sign off on it, and it will go up to the qa manager
08:36 mtj hi peoples
08:36 * mtj waves....
08:35 rangi removing it is less important than that
08:35 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5184 enhancement, P5, ---, robin, ASSIGNED , Upgrade to support jQuery 1.4.2
08:35 eythian paul_p: Bug 5184 is related
08:34 paul_p that's were we should have an open discussion I think (during next IRC ?). We (BibLibre) could have someone working on removing jquery if it's franlky/openly/firmly decided & organised
08:33 rangi then its up to qa
08:32 rangi i dont really mind, it still needs to be tested and signed off by someone and put into a state that a git merge can pull it in
08:32 rangi so add it, then hope that someone takes it back out?
08:31 paul_p yes, I agree. But I think we should do a separate thing for that. not add it to the 5872 entry.
08:30 rangi not bundling more
08:30 rangi we should be moving away from bundling things
08:30 paul_p we bundle just what we need or there are important things missing ?
08:30 rangi we dont bundle all the perl modules
08:29 rangi yes, and the jquery stuff is wrong
08:29 paul_p it's exactly like other jquery stuffs isn't it ?
08:28 paul_p s/a problem/something new/
08:28 paul_p mmm... if we bundle it in the source, why is there a problem with what hdl suggested with jeditable ? why can't we just stick with the koha-bundled version ?
08:28 rangi (for jeditable)
08:27 rangi the version number is the important thing, so people can choose where to get it from
08:27 eythian awesome, hard part of the current task completed, I can finish off the easy stuff tomorrow and go home now.
08:27 paul_p yes, it's another story
08:27 paul_p for example, in Ubuntu, we have jquery 1.5.2, not 1.6.2, the last available version
08:26 rangi we can just do what we do for the others, bundle it in the source a source install, use the packaged versions for a packaged install
08:26 rangi yes, but that is a different question
08:26 eythian in the case of debian, I (or someone) can make a package for it if it's not there already.
08:25 * paul_p feel it's a complex task that must not be underestimated...
08:25 paul_p the other part of the question is : how can we provide something flexible, ie that works with most distros...
08:24 rangi so that it can be packaged too
08:24 rangi the other thing is to pick a version number of jeditable
08:24 eythian well, Koha bundles a rather old jquery that's used.
08:23 paul_p ok, so there is nothing in Koha itself, it's linux/apache thing. OK, I understand better now (I thought i had missed something)
08:23 rangi or you can move the version in koha out of hte way, and symlink the new one in, etc
08:22 rangi you can use a rewrite rule in the apache conf to switch between then if you want
08:21 eythian the debian version is 1.4.2
08:21 rangi install the debian version of jquery
08:21 paul_p rangi, how to tell koha "use packaged jquery instead of koha jquery"
08:21 rangi how to test with the debian version?
08:20 paul_p rangi: can you show me where it is, how it works ?
08:20 eythian (the packages don't, but they will when certain bugs are fixed in koha)
08:20 paul_p eythian, I agree
08:20 eythian we don't at the moment, but there are plans to move to it, as it would allow us to upgrade jquery and get shiny new things from it. Locking in to an old version is problematic.
08:20 rangi we do, with the packages
08:19 jenkins_koha Starting build 333 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
08:18 paul_p mmm... but jquery is still included in Koha, isn't it ? we don't rely on packaged jquery for instance ?
08:17 rangi if you can find someone to test it all, including against the version of jquery that comes with debian, and is happy to sign off on it, it can go up to qa
08:09 rangi i think the news is all in the comments
08:08 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Fixing missing padding on module version <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=80ba84159ddbdd52394984c8078263066dcc7a7b>
08:07 paul_p rangi, just read your blog post about 3.6 halfway. Do you have some news about 5872 ? is there something preventing sign-off-ing it ?
08:04 slef I tend to go there only when paid :)
08:03 slef anyway, London is two regions away and polluted
08:03 huginn` slef: The operation succeeded.
08:03 slef @later tell rhcl not as far as I know. I've bookmarked that so we should see the next one in time.
08:01 rangi heya paul_p
08:00 paul_p hello world
07:52 rangi its a common naming convention in testing
07:51 rangi t/ are ones designed to be run on install, xt/ ones can and often do take a long time to run
07:51 rangi xt/ are release only tests
07:50 rangi and systempreferences
07:50 rangi fredericd: t/ is testing the code, xt/ is testing templates etc
07:42 wahanui OK, eythian.
07:42 eythian wahanui: OSX is <reply>the current release is OSX Nyan Cat
07:35 wahanui the human race was doomed to extinction today as the robot revolt turned violent.
07:35 eythian wahanui: in actual news
07:35 wahanui OK, eythian.
07:35 eythian wahanui: in actual news is <reply>the human race was doomed to extinction today as the robot revolt turned violent.
07:35 wahanui eythian: sorry...
07:35 eythian wahanui: in actual news
07:21 clrh hello
07:10 julian bonjour wahanui
07:09 wahanui salut, sophie_m
07:09 sophie_m hi
07:09 wahanui bonjour, julian
07:09 julian hello
06:27 wahanui niihau, reiveune
06:27 reiveune hello
06:11 francharb hello #koha
06:10 eythian hello druthb
06:10 eythian this library has an entire item type devoted to one author.
06:10 druthb Hi.
06:10 fredericd hello druthb
06:09 huginn` druthb: cait was last seen in #koha 3 hours, 11 minutes, and 59 seconds ago: <cait> bye all
06:09 druthb @seen cait
06:04 fredericd like other 00-*.t tests?
06:04 fredericd why having a test in xt and not in t
06:04 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6458 normal, P5, ---, frederic, NEW , incorrect parsing result in translation processing
06:04 fredericd rangi: I'm looking at bug 6458 and mailing list discussion
05:24 huginn` rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 8.0ï¿½C (5:00 PM NZST on July 21, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 6.0ï¿½C. Windchill: 3.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady).
05:24 rangi @wunder wellington nz
04:52 kmkale Namaskar #koha
03:36 rangi hiya Amit_Gupta
03:35 Amit_Gupta good morning koha ;)
03:35 Amit_Gupta heya chris ;)
02:57 cait bye all
02:54 cait :)
02:54 * cait can sleep almost everywhere
02:18 rangi ah, guess not then
02:18 cait and about 1.5 hour flight
02:18 cait it's only 1 hour
02:18 rangi do you get to sleep on the train?
02:18 rangi she'll be back :)
02:18 cait ts.
02:18 cait cna not even sleep 2 hours without missing something
02:17 cait I see it
02:16 Space_Librarian and posted briefly on google+ too
02:16 cait crap
02:16 rangi yup, she was only here a short while
02:16 cait have to leave in 30 minutes
02:16 cait I missed druthb? :(
02:13 * Space_Librarian hands over Schneckennudeln to cait
02:12 rangi is your train/bus soon?
02:12 rangi you just missed druthb
02:12 cait hi Space_Librarian
02:12 Space_Librarian hey cait
02:11 cait hi #koha
02:01 Space_Librarian ciao
02:00 nengard see you soon
02:00 rangi you too, sleep well ;)
02:00 druthb Off to bed now. Be well.
01:58 Space_Librarian O.o
01:58 druthb Lol
01:58 rangi hehe
01:56 nengard what was I thinking?
01:56 nengard my first of 3 at this conference!
01:56 nengard just finished the slides for tomorrow's AALL talk
01:56 druthb Yes.
01:56 nengard you love me :)
01:56 druthb Nengard :P
01:56 rangi good to hear from you, and that all went well
01:56 nengard druthb i thought we left that phone out of your reach :)
01:55 nengard and there she is
01:55 nengard a little birdy told me that a bad girl is on IRC instead of recovering
01:55 druthb Yup. Can r as ise head of bed now.
01:54 rangi they let you move now?
01:54 rangi oh look its druthb !!!!
01:54 druthb Hi.
01:11 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 4415] child record only using parent's info <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4415>
00:38 hdl1 lucky you
00:37 eythian we don't have a lot of legacy systems to worry about.
00:37 eythian Debian is our standard platform, and we'll accept Ubuntu in a pinch.
00:37 hdl1 but have to maintain.
00:36 hdl1 we did... a long time ago.
00:34 eythian we don't do that :)
00:33 hdl1 when you have customers with redhat centos and macos x...
00:30 rangi but it does take time setting that up, once its done, i find it faster
00:30 rangi and then its put a new package in the repo, apt-get upgrade
00:30 rangi we should be getting rid of our last couple of git deployments in production very soon
00:30 eythian it's significantly easier to integrate with the system from a package.
00:29 rangi thats how we do it here
00:29 rangi we apply it to git, and build and deploy a new package
00:29 hdl1 But maybe I don't have the background you have.
00:28 hdl1 well when you have to apply a patch to a customer install it is much more handy to rely on a git.
00:28 hdl1 but thanks...
00:27 eythian yeah, it's always intended to be a downstream view of the git repo, including .git with it is not possible (nor sensible, really)
00:26 hdl1 it deploys a standard koha and looses the .git directory.
00:25 hdl1 the debian packaging is not usefull to keep git archive.
00:25 eythian hdl1: also, I think the rebase -i in that page will do exactly what I need, given it's only a handful of commits
00:24 eythian hdl1: if it's any consolation, I hope to make translations be addon packages for the debian packaging :)
00:24 hdl1 ok
00:24 hdl1 But everyone is overwhelmed.
00:23 hdl1 it is not the only responsibility of translation manager.
00:18 rangi my guess is probably due to the reason lots of other things dont get done, time
00:17 rangi ask the translations manager :)
00:17 hdl1 don't know why translations are still direct part of Koha when it could both easily and efficiently be a different repo.
00:15 hdl1 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5574566/how-do-i-preserve-tags-when-filtering-a-repository
00:15 hdl1 rangi: this one could be interesting too.
00:14 hdl1 eythian: other way would be to rebase -i
00:12 hdl1 http://www.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-filter-branch.html
00:11 hdl1 you may also sign off on patch with that...
00:11 rangi w00t
00:10 hdl1 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/750172/how-do-i-change-the-author-of-a-commit-in-git
00:10 eythian :D
00:10 hdl1 i just happened to know that.
00:10 eythian hdl1
00:10 hdl1 eythian
00:02 rangi hmmm not that i can think of
00:02 eythian (that you can think of)
00:01 eythian rangi: ok, assume I have 4 commits, --amend only works on tip. Any easy way of going back and signing off on a range?