Time  Nick             Message
02:06 druthb           o/
02:07 * druthb         laughs evilly.
02:07 * druthb         has a monopoly on Brooke's attention tonight.
02:07 druthb           hi, LBA
02:13 Agent_Dani       Heya druthb
02:14 druthb           Hi, Agent_Dani!
02:14 Agent_Dani       :D
03:53 druthb           o/
04:08 bg               hiya druthb
04:08 bg               NateC?
04:08 wahanui          I LIKE SPACE!
04:10 Space_Librarian_ hehehe
04:11 druthb           hi, boss.
04:11 druthb           bg?
04:11 wahanui          bg is the awesomest boss....no, really, I mean it.
04:12 bg               heh - I need something cool like NateC?
04:13 Space_Librarian_ possibly "It comes in pints?"
04:13 Space_Librarian_ lol
04:14 bg               heh
04:14 druthb           wahanui: forget bg
04:14 wahanui          druthb: I forgot bg
04:14 bg               :)
04:14 bg               thanks druthb
04:15 druthb           wahanui: bg is <reply> What?  You're gonna tell me he's the best boss evar again?  C'mon...
04:15 wahanui          OK, druthb.
04:15 druthb           bg?
04:15 wahanui          What?  You're gonna tell me he's the best boss evar again?  C'mon...
04:15 bg               *sigh*
04:15 Space_Librarian_ lol awesome
04:16 druthb           tee hee.
04:16 druthb           Space_Librarian?
04:16 wahanui          Space_Librarian is a Koha poet or the sweetest lil lady you'll ever know
04:17 bg               wahanui: forget bg
04:17 wahanui          bg: I forgot bg
04:17 druthb           :P
04:17 bg               :P back at you
04:18 Space_Librarian_ I see that and immediately think of southern carolina. why, I don'tknow.
04:18 Space_Librarian_ whoops. bbiab
04:18 bg               later
04:22 kmkale           Namaskar #koha
04:23 kmkale           heya druthb Space_Librarian_ & bg
04:23 bg               hiya
04:35 kmkale           hi jransom :)
04:35 jransom          hello hello
04:36 jransom          I thought I needed help with a query , but then I went and looked at Koha config settings and found the answer ....
05:21 francharb        hello all
06:40 reiveune         hello
06:40 wahanui          hi, reiveune
06:40 cait             hi all
06:47 clrh             hi
06:47 wahanui          hola, clrh
06:47 eythian          hi
06:47 eythian          wahanui doesn't like to talk to me :(
06:47 wahanui          eythian: excuse me?
06:49 julian           hi #koha
06:49 chrisdothall     o/
07:14 paul_p           hello world
07:15 kmkale           namaste paul_p :)
07:17 kf               morning #koha
07:30 huginn`          New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6589: Adding supplements broken <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d80659ce3543d01e0f9e4f280b63f76d00d2a27b>
07:30 lds              hello koha
07:31 paul_p           very nice weather in Marseille : 15°C, rain, wind. I didn't knew it was already october...
07:33 kf               @wunder Konstanz
07:33 huginn`          kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 15.2�C (9:30 AM CEST on July 19, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1003.9 hPa (Falling).
07:33 kf               not so different from here then
07:33 rangi            @wunder wellington nz
07:33 huginn`          rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 11.0�C (7:00 PM NZST on July 19, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 4.0�C. Pressure: 30.36 in 1028 hPa (Steady).
07:33 kf               evening rangi
07:34 jenkins_koha     Starting build 328 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
07:34 rangi            hi kf
07:40 huginn`          New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 6599 - Don't show dictionary definition table if there are no definitions <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bd6404608ab36a7ba5a1031fb512d67c161975f8> / Fix for Bug 6596 - Acq framework has white space for hidden fields <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9a2fd1bb7ed9e4a9a04d603c7fefb51163ac0424>
08:17 jenkins_koha     Project Koha_master build #328: SUCCESS in 43 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/328/
08:17 jenkins_koha     * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 6589: Adding supplements broken
08:17 jenkins_koha     * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6596 - Acq framework has white space for hidden fields
08:17 huginn`          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6589 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED , can't add supplements
08:17 huginn`          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6596 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Acq framework has white space for hidden fields
08:17 jenkins_koha     Starting build 329 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
08:25 kf               !jenkins botsnack cookie
08:25 jenkins_koha     kf: yummy! I could eat cookie all day long
08:25 kf               rangi snack cookie :)
08:26 rangi            heh thanks
08:29 kf               for being busy
08:29 kf               now  all I have to do is talk chris_n into getting the patch for supplements...
08:29 rangi            :)
08:29 kf               :P
08:34 quibbit          :)
08:35 kf               hi quibbit
08:35 quibbit          hi
08:35 quibbit          i am a newcomer
08:36 kf               welcome :)
08:37 quibbit          i have a doubt about koha
08:37 kf               what is your concern?
08:39 quibbit          i am a student
08:41 quibbit          how we create barcode of docs in koha
08:41 kf               what do you want to do?
08:41 kf               print barcode labels? or aotmatically generate a barcode for newly cataloged items?
08:42 quibbit          automatic generation of barcodes
08:44 kf               there is a systempreference to activat it
08:44 kf               it's called autoMemberNum
08:47 quibbit          details pls
08:47 quibbit          then
08:49 kf               go to administration > systempreferences and search for autoMemberNum
08:49 kf               everything else will be explained on that page
08:54 quibbit          ok
08:59 jenkins_koha     Project Koha_master build #329: SUCCESS in 42 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/329/
08:59 jenkins_koha     oleonard: Fix for Bug 6599 - Don't show dictionary definition table if there are no definitions
08:59 huginn`          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6599 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Don't show dictionary definition table if there are no definitions
09:32 huginn`          New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6412] notes on pay fine full of spaces <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6412>
09:40 rangi            paul_p just said exactly waht i was going to say :)
09:40 paul_p           hi rangi. where/when ?
09:41 paul_p           seems summer ended here: 15°C, wind, rain. I hope summer has reached NZ ;-)
09:41 paul_p           @weather marseille, france
09:41 huginn`          paul_p: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 18.0�C (11:30 AM CEST on July 19, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Steady).
09:41 rangi            your reply to one of our monks :)
09:41 rangi            @wunder wellington nz
09:41 huginn`          rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 10.0�C (9:00 PM NZST on July 19, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 4.0�C. Pressure: 30.36 in 1028 hPa (Steady).
09:41 rangi            nope, still winter
09:42 rangi            paul_p: kf and I were just saying we think we have the most code from monks of any free software project, 2 christian and 1 buddhist monk
09:43 paul_p           well, monestary usually have libraries (remember I started to work on Koha because of a monestary too ;-) )
09:43 rangi            yup :)
10:03 kf               :)
10:03 kf               lunch time
10:55 juan_            hi koha�
10:55 juan_            in unimarc, field 010 could be repeatable?
10:57 juan_            yes, it could be
13:21 oleonard         Hi sekjal
13:23 sekjal           hi, oleonard!
13:23 oleonard         Thanks to you and nengard for the signing and QAing
13:24 sekjal           thanks for writing all the patches :)
13:24 sekjal           oleonard++
13:25 nengard          oleonard++
13:25 nengard          agreed :)
13:25 nengard          my part is easy :) hehe
14:07 vfernandes       hi Koha community :)
14:07 oleonard         Hi vfernandes
14:08 vfernandes       i need help of some Koha-Zebra expert...
14:09 vfernandes       searching by acquisition date also searches on last seen date
14:10 vfernandes       i'm using 3.2.6 and UNIMARC def
14:10 vfernandes       I think that the problem is in record.abs conf
14:11 vfernandes       anyone have this correctly working with UNIMARC?
14:43 rhcl             New upgrade to 3.4.2. It seems there is a possible bug (regression?). We have some patrons with a two part surname, in particular we have nursing homes with....
14:44 rhcl             a surname like "living community". Previously we could do a patron search with surname "living community" and it would find it, now if you use both names it won't
14:44 wizzyrea         3 part name searching is broken
14:44 wizzyrea         but it works from one of the patron searches
14:44 rhcl             ?
14:44 wizzyrea         sec
14:45 wizzyrea         see your pm's
14:46 rhcl             tnx!
14:46 wizzyrea         actually, this: http://paste.koha-community.org/414
14:46 wizzyrea         so at least there is a workaround
14:47 wizzyrea         fyi, NEKLS is sponsoring to get that fixed
14:47 wizzyrea         bug 6217 and bug 6253
14:47 huginn`          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6217 normal, P5, ---, ian.walls, NEW , Searching for 3 part patron names brings no results
14:47 huginn`          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6253 normal, P5, ---, ian.walls, NEW , Unified Patron Search subroutine
14:49 rhcl             NEKLS++
14:49 slef             hi all
14:49 rhcl             hi slef
15:58 huginn`          New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6115] Acquisition reports : date filter & sorting don't work <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6115>
16:23 reiveune         bye
16:34 hristost         Hi all, when configuring the ldapserver block in koha-conf.xml, under "mapping" is it required to fill in all of the fields?
16:38 oleonard         Not many LDAP experts to be found hristost
16:42 hristost         yeah, i am relatively new to it myself
16:45 sekjal           hristost:  you only need the mapping if you're using update or replicate
16:45 sekjal           and you can't use either of those with bind_by_auth right now
16:46 sekjal           as for which fields are required, only those that are required by the database for the borrowers table are required to be mapped.
16:46 sekjal           that is, fields that aren't allowed to be NULL
16:46 sekjal           there should be notes for that in Auth_with_ldap.pm
16:52 hristost         thanks sekjal
16:52 hristost         i remember you telling me that last week, and i am in the process of re-reviewing my settings in there
16:54 hristost         so basically the ones listed as "NO" under the "Null" column are what i need then?
16:57 sekjal           hristost:  yes
16:58 oleonard         nengard: When you were testing the reports dictionary yesterday, were you able to get it to actually incorporate a definition into a guided report?
16:58 oleonard         Or did you test that aspect of it?
16:58 nengard          no, that's what i ws saying - it's broken - i reported a new bug for that
16:59 nengard          bug 6601
16:59 huginn`          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6601 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , dictionary items not adding to query
16:59 oleonard         Great, thanks
17:03 hristost         thanks once again sekjal
17:26 tcohen           there still exists a memory limit error in http://koha-community.org
17:29 slef             tcohen: :-( have you time to report it on http://bugs.koha-community.org/ please?
17:33 tcohen           slef: already
17:34 tcohen           slef: Bug 6606, if there's anything I can do to help let me know
17:34 huginn`          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6606 major, P5, ---, wizzyrea, NEW , Fatal error: Allowed memory size...
17:42 rhcl             tcohen: we've seen that exact same error before on the en side--it's due to one of the site plugins. wizzyrea can fix it. it's one of the commit feeds I think
17:44 tcohen           rhcl_lunch: it looks like a plugin problem, as 128MB memory limit seems high
17:45 tcohen           so, you are right
17:46 ras0ir           hi, i cannot search catalogue, any ideas what causes following error? [Tue Jul 19 17:44:10 2011] search.pl: Use of uninitialized value $key in hash element at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Templates.pm line 227.
17:46 ras0ir           btw, i'm running 3.4.2
17:48 slef             tcohen: thanks. I can't fix it. We've a single point of failure.
17:49 slef             @later tell wizzyrea can you fix bug 6606 please?
17:49 huginn`          slef: The operation succeeded.
17:49 slef             ras0ir: looking
17:50 oleonard         ras0ir: Did you just upgrade?
17:50 ras0ir           oleonard: yeah
17:51 oleonard         sudo apt-get install libtemplate-perl
17:52 slef             oleonard: more generally, ras0ir should run: perl koha_perl_deps.pl -m # isn't it?
17:52 oleonard         slef: Perhaps so, I don't know that one.
17:52 ras0ir           Total modules reported: 0                                                     * Module is missing or requires an upgrade.
17:53 ras0ir           all modules are installed
17:56 slef             ras0ir: is it an error on the screen or only in logs?
17:56 ras0ir           slef: only in logs
17:56 slef             ras0ir: OPAC?
17:56 wahanui          i guess OPAC is for patrons
17:57 ras0ir           slef: both in opac and admin
17:58 slef             ras0ir: what value do you have for TagsEnabled TagsShowOnList TagsInputOnList sysprefs?
17:59 slef             argh, sorry, back in 90mins!
18:00 ras0ir           tagsenabled = allow , tagsinputonlist = dont allow, showonlist = 6
18:06 oleonard         Just got a marketing email from www.marcive.com about our "upcoming" migration to Koha with ByWater.
18:07 wizzyrea         !
18:08 oleonard         Sounds like a service that would be useful to some, but the timing...
18:08 jcamins_away     oleonard: congratulations! I've always said you would like Koha. ;)
18:14 nengard          oleonard that is probably cause a few of our partners have recently signed with them
18:14 nengard          maybe they're going through our old press ...
18:39 oleonard         Interesting... bug 6601 didn't exist before the switch to T:T
18:39 huginn`          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6601 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , dictionary items not adding to query
18:41 nengard          that's what i thought
18:41 nengard          but it didn't make sense to me
18:43 * oleonard       finds the errant variable name
18:44 wizzyrea         oleonard: my observation has been that there are certain variables that automatically got appended things that shouldn't have been appended
18:44 wizzyrea         things like even, odd
18:44 oleonard         In this case it's a variable that didn't get appended something which should have. I don't think I've seen that yet.
18:45 wizzyrea         ooo it goes both ways
18:45 wizzyrea         that is good to know
18:51 huginn`          New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6601] Dictionary items not adding to query <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6601>
18:52 oleonard         Man the "all dates" option for defining a date-based dictionary item is completely useless.
19:31 ras0ir           thanks all for the help, i've fixed my problem by changing recordId in zebra's cfg
19:33 sekjal           jcamins_away:  about?
19:36 jcamins_away     sekjal: I am.
19:36 sekjal           in a listserv post from earlier this year, you mentioned that indexing 035 into local-number could lead to corrupted records
19:36 sekjal           am I understanding that right?
19:36 jcamins          It leads to corrupted indexes.
19:37 jcamins          The records themselves will be fine, but Zebra will not be able to recover from the error.
19:37 sekjal           ah
19:37 sekjal           but 035 definitely needs to be indexed
19:37 jcamins          Yes, definitely.
19:37 sekjal           looking at gils.att, there is 2049 Original-Control-Identifier
19:37 jcamins          Actually, thinking about it, chances are good that you'd get the records corrupted if you used local-number, too.
19:37 sekjal           it's unused in Koha so far
19:38 sekjal           this seems like a good candidate for dumping the 035 data
19:38 jcamins          I don't know much about GILS.
19:39 ras0ir           what should i use for recordId? using recordId: (bib1,Identifier-standard)
19:39 rangi            morning
19:39 sekjal           morning, rangi
19:40 jcamins          ras0ir: why are you changing it?
19:40 rangi            back to work today
19:40 ras0ir           jcamins: by using default value, i couldnt get any search results
19:41 jcamins          ras0ir: then the problem is whatever other changes you made.
19:41 ras0ir           well i didnt change anything
19:41 jcamins          In that case, keep it like that.
19:41 jcamins          searching faq?
19:41 wahanui          searching faq is probably at http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/searching/
19:41 jcamins          ^^ you might want to take a look at that page.
19:42 ras0ir           well i did the things written on the page, but not helped
19:42 jcamins          Hm.
19:42 jcamins          Well, changing the config files isn't going to help either.
19:42 ras0ir           im going to add some records to test it
19:42 jcamins          How do you know search isn't working if you don't have any records?
19:43 ras0ir           jcamins: i already have two records
19:43 jcamins          Ah. Got it.
19:43 ras0ir           before changing value, it didnt work, after changing it worked
19:43 jcamins          Try changing it back to the way it was before, then redo all the other steps you did.
19:44 ras0ir           ok
19:47 ras0ir           jcamins: [warn] Record didn't contain match fields in (bib1,Local-number)
19:48 jcamins          ras0ir: how did you put the records in your database?
19:48 jcamins          Wait.
19:48 jcamins          What version of Koha are you on?
19:48 ras0ir           3.4.2
19:48 jcamins          Okay, that's a good version to be on.
19:48 jcamins          So, how did you add the records?
19:49 ras0ir           well i just did a z3950 search and did import from results
19:49 jcamins          Hm.
19:49 jcamins          Apparently your records do not have biblionumbers.
19:50 ras0ir           ah in marc bibliographic framework test i got "biblio and biblionumber 	The biblio.biblionumber and biblioitems.biblioitemnumber fields be mapped to a MARC subfield,"
19:50 jcamins          I have no idea how that could happen.
19:50 jcamins          Oh, that's how.
19:50 jcamins          Yeah, you'll have to fix your frameworks.
19:55 rangi            hi nengard
19:55 nengard          hello
19:55 wahanui          privet, nengard
19:55 * oleonard       didn't intend to hunt guided reports bugs, just wanted to correct some interface things
19:56 rangi            I hate that thing
19:56 rangi            worst thing I ever wrote
19:56 wizzyrea         the saved reports thing is good >.>
19:57 rangi            yeah sql bit is ok
19:57 rangi            wizard thing is pants
19:59 rangi            go go speedracer (this bus driver is speedy)
19:59 huginn`          New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6608] Date-pickers broken on guided reports pages <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6608>
19:59 wizzyrea         hee
19:59 nengard          pants! :) love it :)
20:00 wizzyrea         i was just thinking that
20:01 * oleonard       would like to know the etymology of that usage
20:01 * wizzyrea       too
20:03 * oleonard       , being unused to that usage, always forgets whether it's positive or negative
20:03 oleonard         Because honestly, it's out of nowhere.
20:03 wizzyrea         http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/british-airways-executive-club/340732-question-pants.html
20:04 oleonard         That makes it more clear.
20:05 rangi            pants are always bad
20:07 rangi            stop! coffee time
20:07 rangi            bbiab
20:07 nengard          i don't see 'pants' as always a bad thing :)
20:07 wizzyrea         they are if you'd rather be nude.
20:14 nengard          so rangi is that it? you'd rather always be nude?
20:17 oleonard         He did work from home for a long time...
20:21 rangi            heh
20:42 hdl              hi alll
20:44 rhcl_lunch       hi hdl
20:47 cait             hi hdl
20:53 rangi            heya hdl
20:53 rangi            biblibre advertising a job today?
20:54 hdl              two in fact.
20:54 hdl              but maybe only one at the moment
20:55 rangi            ahh
20:55 hdl              next one will be published soon
20:55 rangi            i saw a blog post, but didnt fully understand (my french is bad )
20:56 hdl              how are things for you ?
20:57 rangi            busy, it is school holidays, but good, getting lots of koha work .. and next week is the first ever NZ koha users group meeting, with 42 people coming
20:57 hdl              nice.
20:58 hdl              ah... that blog post is for some other company... for alfresco and Kyocapture
20:58 rangi            ahhh that will be why i didnt understand ;-)
21:36 huginn`          New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 6601 - dictionary items not adding to query <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9d21892cec24c10c29e3587affeee8e800cb2ee8>
21:44 rangi            new irc stats
21:44 rangi            http://stats.workbuffer.org/ircstats/
21:46 huginn`          New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 6608 - Date-pickers broken on guided reports pages <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6e2e58107f2347ec87281414fb0e5e12bf7806bf>
21:48 jenkins_koha     Starting build 330 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
22:32 jenkins_koha     Project Koha_master build #330: SUCCESS in 43 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/330/
22:32 jenkins_koha     * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6601 - dictionary items not adding to query
22:32 jenkins_koha     * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6608 - Date-pickers broken on guided reports pages
22:32 huginn`          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6601 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Dictionary items not adding to query
22:32 huginn`          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6608 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Date-pickers broken on guided reports pages
22:41 phlunk3          hi guys, I am just wanting to upgrade a koha installation however need to update/install lots of perl modules which is something I've never done before, can someone point me to documentation or explain how this is done on an ubuntu server?
22:42 rangi            what version of ubuntu?
22:43 phlunk3          karmic
22:43 rangi            ohh old timer
22:43 rangi            thats not even an LTS release eh?
22:43 phlunk3          idd
22:44 eythian          it's not supported
22:44 rangi            if it was a newish version, almost all the perl modules are in ubuntu but karmic is a couple of years old now
22:44 eythian          I would not install on that
22:44 eythian          it went EOL a few months back
22:45 eythian          You won't get security updates or anything
22:45 phlunk3          yeah its an existing vm from an old koha install, just hoping to be able to update koha without making an entirely new vm.
22:45 rangi            well you can, its just not a good idea :-)
22:45 eythian          I would just update to 10.04, which is an LTS release
22:45 phlunk3          server isnt used for anything besides koha and is only accessible from internal network so should be secure enough really.
22:46 rangi            what version of koha are you upgrading to
22:46 phlunk3          latest, 3.4.02 I believe
22:46 rangi            right, if you stick with karmic, you are going to have to cpan a lot of modules on
22:49 rangi            so, bearing in mind, this is a bad idea
22:49 rangi            you run
22:49 rangi            ./koha_perl_deps.pl -m in your unpacked tarball
22:49 rangi            then for each of the missing modules, you can try to to apt-get install them, if that fails you will need to cpan them
22:49 rangi            eg
22:49 rangi            Template::Toolkit
22:49 rangi            apt-get install libtemplate-perl
22:50 rangi            or cpan Template::Toolkit
22:51 rangi            druthb is now out of surgery, being moved to her room shortly
22:51 rangi            (thats for the channel in general)
22:53 magnuse          yay for druthb!
22:53 rhcl             surgery?
22:53 Space_Librarian  druthb ++
23:03 phlunk3          thanks rangi was enough info for me, decided I will create a new VM after all, seems whoever made the last one had done some other strange things too :)
23:03 rangi            :)
23:03 rangi            in that case you have some options
23:03 rangi            with a newer version, you could use the .deb packages for koha-common
23:04 rangi            or could still do a tarball based install
23:04 phlunk3          if I install via the package is it going to be much work to get my data transferred from the 3.0 version to this newer one?
23:05 rangi            should be much the same
23:05 rangi            you dump the database on the old one
23:05 rangi            load it into the new db, and the webinstaller will kick in, and try to upgrade you
23:05 rangi            (do keep a backup tho :))
23:06 phlunk3          I believe in you rangi, I will keep no backup! ;)
23:06 rangi            heh
23:06 magnuse          lol
23:06 rangi            i disclaim all responsibility
23:07 phlunk3          haha, told my boss already I had asked your advice and that seemed to be good enough for him ;)
23:07 eythian          careful, he'll go mad with power.
23:07 eythian          You wouldn't want that.
23:07 rangi            heh
23:07 rangi            where abouts are you phlunk3 ?
23:07 phlunk3          Tauranga
23:08 rangi            ah ha
23:08 rangi            technologywise eh?
23:08 phlunk3          yeah, just started here a couple months ago when I moved back to NZ.
23:08 rangi            sweet
23:08 rangi            they are good people
23:09 Space_Librarian  Tauranga's a lovely place to live too.
23:09 phlunk3          yeah really nice company to work with, just a pity that they are quite limited on their development work at the moment.
23:09 Space_Librarian  double awesome for you
23:09 Space_Librarian  it'll grow
23:09 rangi            ive actually been experimenting with a ppa for ubuntu
23:09 phlunk3          yeah, although it is a bit quiet for me here, looking forward to my gf coming over next month and giving me someone to drink with.
23:09 magnuse          and where's tauranga, for the rest of us?
23:10 rangi            but they are essentially the same as the debian packages
23:10 phlunk3          New Zealand
23:10 Space_Librarian  Bay of Plenty, North island, NZ
23:10 rangi            https://launchpad.net/~koha
23:10 Space_Librarian  phlunk3: if you play golf, I could point you in the direction of people to drink with in Trg.
23:11 magnuse          nort of aucland?
23:11 Space_Librarian  south
23:11 phlunk3          haha nah, I havent played golf since I was a child, really too expensive to join a club in Holland.
23:11 rangi            southeastish
23:11 phlunk3          around the middle of the north island magnuse, on the east coast.
23:11 Space_Librarian  where white island (the volcano) is
23:12 magnuse          thanks, found it on google maps, but is on a slow connection... ;-)
23:31 rhcl_away        Tauranga looks to be good for fishing.
23:32 rhcl_away        appears to have a couple of ponds in the area
23:33 rhcl_away        The Sebel Tauranga NZ - Waterfront Bar & Restaurant: Luxury
23:55 Space_Librarian  rhcl_away: it's fantastic for spearfishing, and diving, etc.
23:56 Space_Librarian  the sebel's pretty pricey though, there are a few good places on their Strand and down the road at the beachy resort suburb of Mount Maunganui.
23:56 Space_Librarian  (You'd never guess I was from the area, would you?)
23:57 eythian          wahanui: imhotep?
23:57 wahanui          i heard imhotep was invisible
23:58 Space_Librarian  I heard he was a badass mummy