Time  Nick         Message
23:49 druthb       0.o  two of me?
23:34 * druthb1    hiccups
21:17 wizzyrea     good lord.
21:17 huginn`      wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 37.1�C (4:16 PM CDT on July 18, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 45%. Dew Point: 23.0�C. Pressure: 29.93 in 1013.4 hPa (Rising).  Excessive heat warning in effect until 7 PM CDT Friday... 
21:16 wizzyrea     @wunder lawrence ks
20:49 jcamins_away libsysguy1: never mind, sekjal explained it.
20:48 jcamins_away libsysguy1: I am, but I'll be here for a few minutes.
20:48 sekjal       no prob.  glad to be of help
20:45 libsysguy1   sekjal**
20:45 libsysguy1   ok cool, thanks sekjalo
20:44 sekjal       but, for testing, it's one way of having multiple DB realities
20:44 sekjal       and don't do it on a production codebase
20:44 libsysguy1   sadly :'(
20:44 sekjal       you'll need to reindex, of course
20:44 libsysguy1   i didn't think about that
20:44 sekjal       then update your koha-conf.xml to point at that DB
20:44 libsysguy1   oh thats true
20:44 sekjal       libsysguy1:  you can also create a second database for testing the new branch
20:44 libsysguy1   heh
20:43 nengard      don't know if that's the best way or not
20:43 nengard      usually i copy the stuff out of update database and apply them directly in mysql - and then undo them there too
20:43 libsysguy1   so what about making those changes?
20:43 nengard      :)
20:43 libsysguy1   ahh
20:43 libsysguy1   what about database changes?
20:43 nengard      but if db updates are involved in any way you need to undo those when you switch back
20:42 nengard      and then switch back to not have that code active
20:42 nengard      yes
20:41 libsysguy1   so since im a giant git newb I have a question...once i have a new branch and have switched to it...does that mean that code is now active?
20:37 libsysguy1   i see what you did there
20:37 sekjal       s/remove/remote/
20:37 libsysguy1   sekjal++
20:37 nengard      sekjal++
20:37 sekjal       will create a new branch on your system that tracks that remove branch
20:36 wahanui      hmmm... interesting is sometimes bad
20:36 libsysguy1   interesting
20:36 sekjal       libsysguy:  git checkout -b bug5549 <remote_name>/<remote_branch_name>
20:36 nengard      sekjal might know too
20:36 nengard      rangi would know
20:36 nengard      is there a branch - you might be able to cherry pick a branch - but i don't know how
20:36 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5549 enhancement, P5, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED , Hourly Loans
20:36 libsysguy1   for bug 5549
20:35 nengard      k
20:35 libsysguy1   its from a remote branch
20:35 nengard      why are you cherry picking versus doing a pull?
20:35 libsysguy1   :'(
20:35 nengard      :(
20:35 nengard      yup ....
20:35 libsysguy1   oh so if there are hundreds of them...lots of typing for libsysguy1
20:34 nengard      and then git cherry-pick commitnumberhere
20:34 nengard      you just need the commit number
20:34 nengard      libsysguy1
20:34 libsysguy1   maybe somebody else knows.  Im trying to use git cherry-pick and can't quite figure it out
20:31 libsysguy1   jcamins_away are you actually away?
19:44 huginn`      New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6602] Reports dictionary doesn't properly recognize text columns <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6602>
19:25 slef         anyway, sounds like rach or rangi will need to let raosoma's mail out of mod hold
19:24 slef         but er, configuring sendmail?
19:23 slef         er, drat
19:21 raosoma      hellllllllllllooooooooooooo
19:17 raosoma      hi wahanui
19:17 wahanui      bonjour, raosoma
19:17 raosoma      hello
19:14 raosoma      Your mail to 'Koha' with the subject
19:14 raosoma      and i got a mail saying....
19:13 raosoma      http://lists.katipo.co.nz/pipermail/koha/2011-July/date.html
19:13 oleonard     Where?
19:12 raosoma      i don't see it in archives also.
19:12 raosoma      yes and yes.
19:11 oleonard     Did you post from the email address which is subscribed?
19:11 oleonard     Are you subscribed?
19:10 raosoma      i got a mail saying that it is waiting for moderation
19:10 raosoma      i doubt whether all are able to see my msg
19:10 raosoma      it is not yet posted.
19:09 raosoma      yes
19:09 raosoma      i have posted one question on lists.koha
19:09 oleonard     raosoma: Are you having a problem with your messages?
19:09 raosoma      btw, who moderates mails in koha lists
19:08 raosoma      couldn't find any where. ok thanks.
19:07 oleonard     I suggest you search for resources devoted to debian since there's no one here to answer your question today
19:07 raosoma      debian
19:07 oleonard     raosoma: What is your server platform?
19:06 raosoma      oleonard: i didn't understand.
19:06 oleonard     raosoma: I've already offered you one answer.
19:05 raosoma      can you please help me.
19:05 raosoma      require help in configuring sendmail in koha.
19:05 raosoma      hi
19:05 wahanui      bonjour, raosoma
19:05 raosoma      hello
19:05 raosoma      hello
19:04 raosoma      it is about configuring sendmail.pm
19:03 raosoma      thanks for responding. I am looking to configure sendmail in koha.
19:03 oleonard     You might have better luck in a forum devoted to your distro
19:03 oleonard     raosoma: Configuring mail is a question about server administration, not Koha specifically.
19:02 raosoma      knock
19:02 raosoma      knock
19:02 raosoma      hello
19:02 raosoma      can any one help me in configuring mail on koha server?
19:01 raosoma      hello
18:51 oleonard     well, good to know anyway
18:50 nengard      but yes, apparently it has always been broke
18:49 nengard      that's more what i'm saying
18:49 nengard      well fix it if people use it :)
18:49 oleonard     "Always been broke, don't fix it?" :)
18:48 nengard      honestly do you know anyone who uses the dictionary at all?
18:48 nengard      i only did fields with pull downs
18:48 nengard      not something i've tried before
18:47 nengard      hmmm
18:47 oleonard     borrowers.Surname, for instance
18:47 oleonard     nengard: When I choose a text column, am I not supposed to be able to set that to something?
18:46 nengard      oleonard: http://www.screencast.com/users/NicoleEngard/folders/Jing/media/c81f4631-aadc-4e39-8afd-6c2ca2cbafd4
18:45 magnuse      Solvang sounds very norwegian...
18:45 nengard      3.0
18:45 nengard      so not since before 3.9
18:45 nengard      not since i've been doing it
18:45 nengard      oleonard i've never gotten it to allow multiple columns
18:45 huginn`      druthb: The current temperature in Potomac Woods, Rockville, Maryland is 31.4�C (2:44 PM EDT on July 18, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: 20.0�C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1015.8 hPa (Steady).
18:45 druthb       @wunder 20852   #not relevant, really...but I *was* there earlier...
18:44 huginn`      bg: The current temperature in Solvang, California is 26.9�C (11:44 AM PDT on July 18, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 15.0�C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013.1 hPa (Steady).
18:44 bg           @wunder santa ynez, ca
18:44 bg           ouch that's hot
18:44 huginn`      bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 24.8�C (11:43 AM PDT on July 18, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 18.0�C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011.1 hPa (Rising).
18:44 bg           @wunder 93109
18:44 oleonard     nengard: Is it possible to use multiple columns in a definition?
18:43 nengard      will record my steps
18:43 nengard      but when i tried to use it in a report it didn't work
18:43 nengard      oleonard i have no problem with the creation of the definition
18:41 oleonard     I think something is going wrong between step 3 and step 4
18:41 nengard      will test
18:41 nengard      okay
18:41 oleonard     nengard: ...but I very rarely use it so i'm having trouble understanding how it's broken
18:40 oleonard     nengard: It seems broken to me
18:40 * Agent_Dani is still in Chapel Hill.
18:40 druthb       hi, sekjal and Dani
18:40 Agent_Dani   Hi druthb in Philadelphia!
18:40 nengard      no, i only tested teh display issues - do you need me to?
18:39 oleonard     nengard: Have you tried recently to add a dictionary definition in reports?
18:39 magnuse      hello from Bod�!
18:39 sekjal       hey, druthb!
18:39 druthb       hello from Philadelphia!
18:39 magnuse      o/
18:38 druthb       o/
18:08 cait         I think the workflows could be better at some places
18:07 cait         exactly
18:07 sekjal       I'm not liking all that I'm seeing in those modules... but, thankfully, there are patches out there, and new ones coming in, so we can make progess
18:07 cait         especially one from Colin for my holds problem
18:07 cait         and they have rfid - there are some interesting patches for that
18:07 cait         but needs more testing before we can update - translation especially
18:06 sekjal       we've got a couple partners who are starting to get into Acquisitions and Serials more, and it's forcing me to look much more closely at those areas
18:06 cait         I have one quite unhappy librarian too, but will get better once we are on 3.4.x
18:06 cait         sekjal: unhappy customer?
18:05 sekjal       cait++ (kf++ , too, for good measure)
18:05 sekjal       thank YOU.  anything that helps fix Serials (or Acquisitions) bugs is worth double for me right now
18:05 * cait       cait_afk
18:04 cait         sekjal++
18:04 cait         sekjal: thx a lot :)
18:02 sekjal       cait:  6589 is passed QA
17:49 tcohen       thanks cait
17:48 tcohen       guess that's all I can do for that bug
17:47 tcohen       and as of bug 6299 it should be tested on new installs for sign-off
17:47 tcohen       i posted a comment on the bug, saying that a new koha featureshould be developed for that
17:46 cait         but I think there is no optional way to do it at the moment
17:45 cait         tcohen: I think it would be safe to create a new authorized value with a database update
17:45 wizzyrea     *nod*
17:45 cait         I think you would have to be very careful about it too
17:44 cait         not that I know of, sorry
17:44 tcohen       cait: yes
17:44 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6299 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, tomascohen, ASSIGNED , Provide a list of authorized values for relator terms
17:44 tcohen       nengard asked for that in bug 6299
17:43 cait         after initial installation?
17:43 tcohen       hya, is there a way to prompt (during update) for including new sample/optional data?
17:25 cait         sure - thx a lot
17:24 sekjal       sure, just a moment (got to finish this rather lengthy email)
17:24 cait         nicole signed off on it
17:23 cait         wondered if you could take a look at 6589
17:22 sekjal       cait:  yes, I'm here
17:22 cait         bye hdl
17:22 hdl          see you folks
17:22 cait         sekjal: around?
17:22 cait         hi jwagner
17:21 jwagner      hi cait
17:20 cait         hi all
16:46 huginn`      New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6599] Don't show dictionary definition table if there are no definitions <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6599>
16:30 kf           bye
15:53 NateC        HA
15:52 wizzyrea     guess when you make your millions you'll be on one of those VirginGalactic flights eh?
15:52 wizzyrea     lol @ NateC
15:48 NateC        Nasa font and all baby!
15:47 NateC        I got my "I Like Space" Shirt in the mail on Sat!!
15:47 NateC        HA!
15:47 wahanui      I LIKE SPACE!
15:47 bg           NateC?
15:39 slef         not just drunk... very very drunk :)
15:08 jcamins_away thd-away: did you just call?
15:08 wizzyrea     and good morning
15:08 kf           ok :)
15:07 wizzyrea     "drunk" is the UK interpretation
15:07 wizzyrea     :)
15:07 wizzyrea     that would be the US interpretation
15:06 reiveune     bye
15:06 kf           I interpreted as 'annoyed'
15:06 kf           oh
15:05 wizzyrea     :)
15:05 * wizzyrea   got it
15:05 slef         kf: "Brooke is pissed" - UKUS slang difference
15:04 kf           hi liz
15:04 wizzyrea     good morning friends
15:04 kf           hm?
15:04 slef         ;-)
15:04 slef         bit early to be drinking!
14:39 kf           ?
14:35 * Brooke     is pissed.
14:35 Brooke       just phoned her owen, but thanks
14:35 oleonard     Brooke: Send her an email to remind her to log on to IRC to get her msg
14:32 huginn`      Brooke: The operation succeeded.
14:32 Brooke       @later tell druthb check your email
14:32 huginn`      New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5877] Offline circulation improvements : upload all files, apply at once <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5877>
14:17 kf           hi slef
14:16 oleonard     Hi slef
14:15 slef         hi all
13:49 kf           but looks good to me
13:49 kf           :)
13:49 kf           I will check
13:48 oleonard     A simple change. I hope that was all that was needed.
13:48 kf           oleonard++ :)
13:46 huginn`      New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6596] Acq framework has white space for hidden fields <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6596>
13:43 kf           it's monday... take it slow
13:38 tcohen       not ready for being back to work yet
13:38 tcohen       kf: been in 'Valle de la Luna' this winter hollidays
13:37 kf           hi tcohen
13:37 kf           hehe
13:37 tcohen       hi all
13:27 magnuse      getting_things_done++ ;-)
13:25 kf           all things I wanted to like forever
13:24 sekjal       kf++ (for bug work over the weekend)
13:24 sekjal       hi, kf
13:23 kf           hi sekjal
13:23 kf           thx :)
13:21 talljoy      well...technically...good afternoon for you. :-)
13:20 talljoy      morning kf
13:13 kf           morning talljoy
12:53 kf           oleonard++ :)
12:50 kf           ok ;)
12:50 oleonard     Agreed.
12:48 kf           and in accoutns it's not good now because data and display text are mixed together in one string, so you can't really separate them
12:47 kf           I think having readable codes is not so bad, as long as it gets not too long and complicated
12:47 kf           ah, reading your comment... I think I get it now what you mean
12:45 kf           it's not even a good idea if you want to have a multilingual system
12:45 kf           storing Payment thanks, - in the database is not good
12:44 kf           we will need something similar for accoutns
12:44 kf           I am not sure what else you can do
12:43 oleonard     At least the status stored in the database is human-readable, even if only in English
12:43 oleonard     who knows, maybe this *is* a good way to do it, looking at the confusion over the 'found' field in the reserves table
12:42 kf           relieved it's not totally stupid
12:42 kf           ok :)
12:42 oleonard     We'd have to make a fairly big change to the way suggestions worked otherwise
12:41 oleonard     kf: I don't think that's necessarily the best long-term solution to the problem, but it's a perfectly workable one
12:25 kmkale       hi kf :)
12:25 kf           hi kmkale
12:25 kmkale       Namaskar #koha
12:21 nengard      :)
12:20 kf           much more fun to test things when your screen is big enough and everything is reasonably fast
12:20 kf           new_laptop++
12:20 kf           yes
12:19 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4497 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED , Acq > Manage suggestions contains untranslated strings
12:19 oleonard     Bug 4497?
12:19 kf           thx :)
12:19 oleonard     Sure
12:19 kf           not sure it's the best way to do it, but it seemed to work alright
12:19 kf           oleonard: can you take a look at my solution for the translatability issue on suggestion.tt?
12:18 kf           and thx :)
12:18 kf           magnuse++
12:17 oleonard     magnus_away++ # too
12:17 nengard      kf++
12:17 nengard      agreed!
12:17 oleonard     kf++ # for lots of weekend bug-wrangling!
12:09 oleonard     Hi nengard, #koha
12:09 nengard      morning #koha
11:58 huginn`      New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6598] OPACFineNoRenewals syspreference does not stop user renewing in opac <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6598>
10:57 magnuse      hiya druthb & #koha
10:46 Agent_Dani   Good morning!
10:16 druthb       hi, magnus!  :)
10:11 magnuse      o/
08:00 kf_mtg       meeting time
08:00 kf_mtg       hi claire :)
08:00 clrh         hi!
07:39 kf           :)
07:39 kf           it's fantastic
07:32 paul_p       hi kf. Very good, thanks. How is your new laptop ?
07:31 kf           how was your vacation?
07:31 kf           hi paul_p :)
07:22 francharb    hello #koha
07:18 paul_p       fortunatly, 95% are useless (spam) or just FYI ... but even 5% means i'll dedicate my day to working with thunderbird...
07:17 marcelr      :-)
07:17 paul_p       2265 mails to download :(
07:17 marcelr      hi paul
07:17 paul_p       hello #koha. I'm back
07:13 marcelr      ;)
07:13 kf           marcelr: don't worry - it's just a normal monday
06:58 reiveune     hello
06:56 lds          hello
06:54 julian       hello!
06:46 marcelr      hi cait; i attached the right file now; thanks
06:44 cait         could you check?
06:44 cait         i failed the staff part - but only becaues I think it was the wrong patch file
06:43 cait         hi marcelr
06:39 marcelr      morning all
06:37 huginn`      New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5663] Show control number without organization code in staff URLs <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5663>
01:30 jcamins      \o
01:30 druthb       o/